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Amin Elhassan
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Amin Elhassan
Cuervo.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Amin Elhassan
Daslow is totally fitting in around here in that I asked him to have prepared for this segment the second of the shirts from his closet and he has forgotten. He. He doesn't have the shirt on him.
Dan Le Batard
I absolutely do.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, you do? Okay, okay. It's hidden. It's well hidden.
Dan Le Batard
Now I'm not fitting in because I'm doing my job.
Amin Elhassan
Okay, you have it somewhere on you. I just see two shirts discarded behind.
Stugotz
Now he's pointing to his crotch.
Amin Elhassan
My bad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Stugotz
Do you think he lost it between when he got here and now?
Amin Elhassan
Like a ticket. I was accusing him of something that I am capable of doing. There are a number of things worth talking about right now because I want a means assessment on what we're going to do. What happened?
Stugotz
Oh, my God. We're watching cinema right now. Absolute cinema on General Hospital. Stephen a. Stephen, a hitman just shot somebody in a hospital bed. Bricks back with a silencer. What do you want to talk about, Dan?
Amin Elhassan
The show we're doing live.
Jeremy
Guarantee you that the show we're doing live is not as good as that one.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, I wish we did that one at Metal Arc. Yeah, I wish that one was on air instead of in private. Yeah, I wish that. I wish that's what we were paying you guys for.
Jeremy
He shot a dude in a hospital bed and shot the nurse, too. Oh, my God. With a silencer. And then made the phone call.
Stugotz
How do you know he has a silencer? It's on mute.
Jeremy
Look at the gun. Look at the gun.
Stugotz
You can see the silencer. I stand corrected. In Stephen A's defense, the nurse pulled a gun on him first. Breaks the face. So Zazzo's second shirt.
Amin Elhassan
No. I was about to talk about Jamal Murray, but thank you for ever being helpful. Wild Willie Wednesday to try and get me back.
Stugotz
I haven't derailed anything today. No, I've been your.
Amin Elhassan
You started by divorcing my parents, Billy.
Stugotz
That's good.
Amin Elhassan
That was your opening bidding goods.
Stugotz
No, that's what happened. I said if. No, I said if you're caught in the middle of a lovers quarrel and the lovers quarrel is your family and the Heat, then what do you do? Because the Heat will be responsible possibly for your parents divorce.
Amin Elhassan
This is the problem that I generally have. It's that I believe there is basketball worth talking about from last night that I'd like to talk about. And not just Giannis leaving, because I do want to assess the legacy of Jamal Murray, who is not somebody who often scores 40 points a game, except when you really need it in the playoffs. And out of nowhere last night, he's reminding Kawhi Leonard and James Harden of some things that I was caught off guard by, even though I've seen this person be this kind of good in the playoffs. But I get forgetful. And so I want to do some legacy talk on Jamal Murray. And I also want to get to Jeremy meeting Shakira, and Jeremy wants to talk about the rehearsal. But the problem I have is that Billy needed gas yesterday and didn't have his wallet.
Stugotz
No, that was this morning. That's why. That's why I was a little tardy for the party. As I left the house, I stopped at the gas station and I. I didn't have my wallet, so I had to head back home to go get the wallet and then go back to Westchester. Come on. What do you think that these are, like, fancy gas pumps? I just. No, I've seen. I've seen them with the Apple Pay stuff in Westchester. I don't know Apple Pay. Not for me. Apple Pay is fine. When it has my, like, things saved and I can, you know, order my McDonald's, I hit Apple Pay. Whatever. When I have to go start and, like, tap my. First of all, last thing I'm going to Tap with my phone is a dirty gas pump. Okay. I'm more of an inserter. Touch a dirty gas pump with my phone, that then is going to go and lay on my face like, that's not. That's not going to happen. And this whole tapping situation. I love technology. I love the advancements of technology. Szaz, I feel like you might be with me on some of this stuff at a certain point. We've advanced far enough. Like, we're going too far on some of these things. When I just am close enough to something and it takes money out of my account and I didn't have to do anything other than my device was close enough to the device that steals the digital.
Dan Le Batard
Why do I look like someone who doesn't appreciate convenience?
Stugotz
No, you're. No, you're on. Come on. You have an 80 year old shirt in your hand. You have two old shirts on your lap. Like, are you not with me on this?
Dan Le Batard
Doing my job?
Stugotz
You're not with me on this? You like the idea of someone just going up to you and tapping your phone and then you lose money?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I'm good with it, man. I'm not losing money. I'm using money.
Stugotz
No, you're losing it. Here's the thing. Unless you're there watching all the time, I'm telling you, someone's going up there. Have you seen these scams, like, on the part?
Dan Le Batard
Does worry me a little.
Stugotz
Okay, welcome to the party, friends. Go on. All right.
Jeremy
But.
Dan Le Batard
But I don't have cash on me, so something I could do about it.
Stugotz
What do you mean?
Dan Le Batard
I have to hope that there's not like a scam going on.
Stugotz
There's always a scam going. That's the thing. There's always a scam going. Haven't you seen, like, the parking things? Had to take the QR codes off of the parking signs here because people were picking, putting their own fake QR codes on the parking signs. Where you would go, you go on the QR code and they had a fake website and. And you just give them $5, $8, whatever it is, and they'd have your credit card information. You didn't actually pay for parking.
Dan Le Batard
I gotta be honest.
Stugotz
You paid a stranger.
Dan Le Batard
I gotta be honest. I think you're a little too involved.
Stugotz
What do you mean?
Dan Le Batard
There's so many things, like, you're worried about too many things.
Stugotz
What do you mean? How so?
Dan Le Batard
That's what I mean. I just said what I mean.
Stugotz
I'm not. What do you mean? That's what I mean. What Am I too worried about. We should not be worried about.
Dan Le Batard
There's all these things going on with you. You don't wanna do this.
Stugotz
You don't wanna do this.
Dan Le Batard
You're too involved.
Stugotz
Nah, dawg, I'm telling you, this is what happens. People come after me. They come like, I need to know. I can't trust no one. There's one person I can trust, it's me, you know? So if someone's saying, especially a stranger, trust me on this, no, thank you. I've been burned too many times. I know not to trust anyone around here. Can only trust me. And even me. I'm a slippery one. Dog.
Amin Elhassan
You did hit him with a dog. Cause you're not used to somebody coming at you as aggressively as Zaz did.
Stugotz
No, cuz, he says dog. So I was trying to get him on my side.
Amin Elhassan
I like the tension you two have. We don't have tension.
Stugotz
I feel like we're. We're close. Are we not close?
Dan Le Batard
I feel like we're getting to know each other.
Stugotz
Yeah, we're close. Getting to know each other.
Dan Le Batard
I'm all right with this right now. I'm all right.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
Stugotz
I mean, I started putting on 20 years ago when you were there, but we're just getting to know each other. That's fine. Not going to rush this relationship at your pace, I suppose.
Amin Elhassan
Put it on the poll at Levittard show. Is there always a scam going on? And also, I'm going to tell you that I spent that entire Michael Jackson show at the Our center the other day with my wife in my ear, saying, that guy you just paid because he had an orange security vest. That is not somebody who works in parking. Like, that's a guy who now might have the keys to our car. And that is not a valet. That's somebody who just. You trusted because that person was wearing an orange vest. And that orange vest he could have gotten from a construction site. It was dark out there. That was not a parking situation. You just gave somebody $20 to park nearby. That was not. You're gonna either get towed or the car is gonna get stolen.
Stugotz
Something about us people, we love people in uniform.
Amin Elhassan
Somebody's got a vest on.
Stugotz
Somebody's got a hat on.
Amin Elhassan
That says something.
Stugotz
You're in charge, buddy. What do you want me to do?
Amin Elhassan
You want me to pull the car around? Sure.
Stugotz
And he's like, I just found this in the Goodwill. I don't care.
Dan Le Batard
I feel like those.
Stugotz
That.
Dan Le Batard
That's like the old school Miami arena days where you gave a Guy, five bucks to watch your car during the.
Amin Elhassan
Gods came out one time, and there were two crackheads smoking crack in both front seats of his car when he came out from the Miami Arena.
Stugotz
I parked in someone's carport the other day at a Marlins game because. Because I was going to park and I looked at the curb. They're like, you're going to have to go up this little ramp. And the ramp was four little blocks of wood that they put in front of the curb. And I was like, to. To back in here because, like, my car's a little low to the ground. I don't want to lose my bumper parking in your front yard. Like, I'm paying you $10 instead of 30 at the garage. But, like, I don't. I don't want to lose my bumper.
Amin Elhassan
This is the only place in South Florida that we have the spirit of the Orange bowl still around. The parking situation where it's no blocky, no parky. It's just, you're parking in someone's car.
Stugotz
It is parky, no blocky. Yeah. Well, sometimes they. There is blocky, and you got to leave your keys. And those are the houses I say at. I'm good, thanks. I'm going to go. I've never experienced that. Sometimes they ask you, like, you can leave your keys and then we'll move. We'll move the car. And I'm like, I'm okay. Just trust.
Amin Elhassan
You know. You know where they live.
Stugotz
I know where they. I know where they are pretending to live. I don't know that they actually live there. I haven't seen them go in and out of the house. And I don't know that my car will be there when I get back. I've been in situations where I go and I park and I come back and the house is a different color. And I just assume someone left their keys there and that. And that car is gone.
Amin Elhassan
He's just.
Stugotz
It's happened.
Amin Elhassan
That's not. No, you guys should not laugh with it. Him.
Stugotz
He's right about that. He's right about.
Amin Elhassan
No, listen to me. I'm all for your yes and no, but the moment he says he went.
Stugotz
Dad, when we were at the super bowl just this past year, we went in and it was clear glass windows. We came out the next day when we went out clear last windows. When we came back, that whole thing was wrapped and it looked like a giant beer can. Didn't even look like the hotel anymore. That's how quickly they could change appearances now. That's why you can't trust people, things, and not even buildings.
Dan Le Batard
You're too involved.
Stugotz
No. You're too loosey goosey if I'm gonna be honest with you. Oh, Joe Cool's ass over here just walking around trusting the world. Must be nice. Must be nice to walk around here and just trust everyone and everything. How's this? Change colors?
Amin Elhassan
Okay, look, I'm gonna attack you on two fronts here. And I'm only okay with about 74% of Wild Willie Wednesday so far. My father. My father, earlier in the show with journalistic responsibilities, reported that Mickey Harrison left the arena on Sunday wearing a wig, sunglasses, and a mustache because he was so embarrassed by the Heat performance.
Stugotz
The hall of Famer.
Amin Elhassan
And now you have said on air, and you were supported by these two, Tony and Amin, saying, yes, this is delightful to be next to you. As you claimed as truth that you went to a game, parked your car at a house. Yes. And as you were at the game, the front of the house was repainted a different color.
Stugotz
I don't know how they did it.
Amin Elhassan
You could smell the paint.
Stugotz
I didn't see smell.
Amin Elhassan
I don't believe your story.
Stugotz
Say that I smelled the paint. I didn't say it was painted. I said, I left. I came back different color.
Amin Elhassan
That's not.
Stugotz
And I didn't leave my car. I didn't leave my keys at the house that day. I said, you know what? If it gets blocked, I'll deal with it when I get back. I'm not leaving my keys here. And I'm glad I didn't, because guess what? When I left, I could. I could go right. A car was there that was moved.
Amin Elhassan
You're claiming that a scam was so involved that people painted their house to steal your car filled with your trinkets of marlin stuff from 1990.
Stugotz
I don't know how or why they were trying to do.
Amin Elhassan
Weren't what?
Stugotz
Or how they were doing.
Amin Elhassan
Okay.
Stugotz
I'm just saying I didn't get got, and it's because I was vigilant.
Amin Elhassan
I got got because that story didn't happen.
Stugotz
What do you mean?
Amin Elhassan
Nobody painted their house?
Stugotz
I didn't say they painted the house. I said it was one color when I was there. You did different color when I got back. I don't know what happened. Games are long three hours. They were shorter last year. This year they seem to be getting long again, if I'm gonna be honest with you. Baseball was fixed. And I don't know what they did, but someone was tinkering with Something where the length of these games is getting long again.
Amin Elhassan
How did you feel about your Cy Young winner allowing or starting to allow 15 runs to the Dodgers last night?
Stugotz
Not surprised at all. I told you guys just yesterday, no one wanted to listen to me. And everyone started scoffing at me when I told you Dodgers aren't fun to watch. I score 15 runs every day. What happened last night? 15 2. They beat the Marlins. Guess who didn't stay up until one in the morning to watch that? Me. I knew exactly what was going to happen and I told you. And then Jeremy and all these mouthpieces out here telling you, no, it's not going to happen. That's not the situation here. I'm happily married. That's not going to. The Dodgers are. They're not that exciting. They're not going to score that many runs. And sure enough, same night, 15 runs. KK Hernandez is on in the last inning pitching with a pitcher's helmet. What is this? Youth league softball? Pitcher's helmet games are lasting one minute longer this year than last year. Told you. See, I was right. Thank you.
Amin Elhassan
You were also right earlier in the show when you were talking about breaking Belichick news as Hard Knocks falls apart. Because we now see that there's going to be a really interesting tension of what happens when Your coach is 50 years older than his girlfriend and you keep taking whatever the publicity judgments are on. Hey, Coach. Your relationship is something that has a lot of people curious. So much so that CBS Sunday Morning has aired an interview that will now make Belichick even more gun shy about interviews than he ever was because he never made these mistakes when he was coach of the Patriots where you get into the bad optics of anything. And it is a little startling to see his relationship be the thing that has become the curiosity. This newsman on CBS Sunday Morning though, was so maximum television newsman that I was getting distracted and annoyed by how cheesy his broadcaster voice questions were. And you tell me, Zaslow, if you can hear the cheesy broadcaster, gotcha of Belichick. You're cornered here. You've got a relationship with a woman who's 50 years younger than you. And I'm a professional broadcaster who's here to trap you in a corner. Is that your little lady over there in the corner? I'm going to trap the both of you.
Stugotz
You're probably thinking the same thing I was when I sat down with Bill Belichick. The now 73 year old former NFL coach wasn't interested in Gloating about his many achievements. Football is everything for Belichick.
Amin Elhassan
You're reading, that's cheating and you trap the old man.
Stugotz
When young Billy went looking for a coaching job of his own, though, dad had some advice. The result is not a tell all, but what you might call a tell some.
Amin Elhassan
Nobody talks that way.
Roy
Jeremy does.
Amin Elhassan
Jeremy was just whispering to me. Is that how you hear me? And I'm like, yes. He's like, is that why you hate me? I was silent after that.
Stugotz
The other change For Belichick is 24 year old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, come on. That was. Wait a minute, that was soaked. That was not objective journalism there. Those last three words. That was not objective.
Stugotz
His creative muse.
Amin Elhassan
I hear your skepticism.
Stugotz
His creative muse.
Amin Elhassan
There was a question mark in there.
Stugotz
His creative muse.
Amin Elhassan
You did that so many times. You read that so many times.
Stugotz
He's like, let me do that one again. No creative muse.
Jeremy
There's like a real condescension dripping off of that part.
Stugotz
His creative muse.
Jeremy
Like he did it a couple of takes and it sounded too enthusiastic. Said, no, no more condescension.
Stugotz
His creative muse.
Amin Elhassan
Wink, wink, audience. I'm with you. She's too young, right?
Stugotz
His creative muse.
Amin Elhassan
I don't think that sounds like me at all.
Roy
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Amin Elhassan
Yeah, it's the only kind he tells.
Stugotz
It's a short one for me. I tried to Speed it up for you guys.
Mike Ryan
You forgot about the league's cup stugats.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
La Carreta is a place where the best of the celebration. Celebrations. Has to be the 97 Marlin celebration, because it was Levon.
Stugotz
Well, when Fidel died the first time. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Amin Elhassan
I mean, when I talk to you about the two things from last night, because I don't want to do transaction Giannis anymore. I want to do both.
Dan Le Batard
Transaction Durant.
Amin Elhassan
No, I want to do Jamal Murray, and I also want to do. The Knicks had a chance at their first closeout game for their home fans since 1999.
Dan Le Batard
Crazy.
Amin Elhassan
They have not. The Knicks have not. Their fans have not been able to watch a closeout playoff series game this century. And Detroit goes in there last night, and at the end, Brunson is hurt and Hart is hurt. And you know that fan base is waiting to turn on that team.
Jeremy
It's like. It's like last year all over again. It's like, yeah, they should win this series easily. And then you mess around, you don't quite win one. And now we're in a position where there's going to be a Game 6, and Hart and Brunson being hurt is not good. Right? Like you say, if Brunson's hurt, you're like, well, that's a clutch score or whatever. But Karl Anthony Towns has played reasonably well in this series. If hearts hurt, you're like, shit. That's like the. That's the heart and soul right there.
Amin Elhassan
I mean. I mean, the. The thing that happened in the last five minutes of, oh, wait, Calamity can be around the corner here is Brunson is far and away the most clutch of clutchy in the fourth quarter when his team needs winning. That's empirical, that he has done more scoring than Yogic in the fourth quarter. And Jokic has played a bunch more playoff games than Brunson. He scores like crazy in the fourth quarter. And him being out is a problem for them because they're waiting to mistrust Kat. They're waiting.
Jeremy
I would say this. It is problematic. I wouldn't say it's a problem. I think him and Hart being out, that's a problem. Right? That's a problem. Hart presents so many matchup problems because he plays like a big. But he's a guard. He brings the ball up. He can shoot threes, whatever. So him being kind of like this jack of all trades thing really is something that fuels the Knicks. And then he's so scrappy. He is really an energy source for that team. The two of them, basically your offensive leader and your defensive leader to both be compromised, that's an issue. The other thing is Detroit, young team, confidence is swelling now, right? This is the game that we said they couldn't win because they're young and they haven't been there before. But down the stretch, Cade Cunningham makes all the great plays, including that pass. You see that pass?
Stugotz
Oh, he's pretty good, dude.
Jeremy
It was incredible. And there's a point where you see all like, oh, no, they're not scared at all. Duran with the with was active on the glass, very Johnny on the spot with all the finishes around the basket. And then you got the vets like Beasley and Harris. They're going to make timely shots. Detroit is in a position now where it's like, I think we can win this series.
Dan Le Batard
Well, and, you know, we just said that the Knicks haven't won, haven't closed out a series at home since 1999. The Detroit Pistons have not won a home playoff game since 2008. All right, but I'm not surprised that Detroit won that game last night. I am surprised that they won that game that was that close with four, five minutes left. And they made all the plays down the stretch. I mean, Cunningham, who struggled for the most part, had 13 points in the final eight minutes of the game. And they're getting all the stops and they're making all the big plays. It was like a super grown up moment for that team.
Jeremy
That's the game we said they couldn't win. Like, that kind of game. We didn't say they couldn't win games. We said, oh, but like, those closers, that scenario, that scenario, that's the one where they couldn't win. And it's funny because Cunningham, the other night, remember, had the shot he wanted and missed it. And they lose that game with the Tim Hardaway foul. No foul, whatever. Watching him come back and almost like process that and say, okay, the same thing's not going to happen again. That was amazing.
Amin Elhassan
To Amin's point, though, Hart and Brunson left the game. And while I can give Detroit credit for it, that's where it happened. Like, as soon as they limped off the court, I was waiting for Thibodeau to call the timeout or get the stoppage to get the both of them back in the game because that's where it spread and that what? That's where it lost. But when you guys mentioned Cade Cunningham, okay, I don't know did he get to 50 and MSG when they won early during the regular season at MSG and he won the game late. Cade Cunningham is very interested in being a star. And this is exactly how you do it. This is the team you do it against. And he already did it once this season in Madison Square Garden where he really liked the idea of doing it in Madison Square Garden. If you take this series from the Knicks and you break New York's heart and you do it in a game seven and you do it in a game seven in New York when they can't close out a series this century there, Cade Cunningham will, on the spot, become someone who joins a conversation that is where all of these good players are. With one series, he will do it. He will enter the stardom that he wishes to have.
Jeremy
So he had a 36 point game during the regular season. But Dan, this is why I call the playoffs an infomercial. It's the greatest infomercial of them all. Because there are people who do it night in, night out. And literally the basketball watching public doesn't know because they don't watch Detroit or because when they watch Detroit, nothing happened, whatever. And then you get on the stage and this is where you announce yourself. It's the same thing that happened to Tyrese Halliburton last year. He did it a little bit in the in season tournament and then when he got by the time he got to the playoffs, that's where it got solidified against the Knicks and then in the conference finals against the Celtics. This is when you do Anthony Edwards four, five years ago, right when we were like, the wolves are just a bunch of screw ups. And Anthony Edwards like, no, I can take control. That's where these people ascend. And so he's doing that ascension right now. I don't even think he needs to win the series at this point. I think he's put himself on the map. I'm one of those guys I heard Kendrick Perkins talk about this, say if I'm Giannis, I would want to go to Detroit and play with Cade Cunningham. And like, I don't think that's gonna happen. But I think that says volumes that now Cade Cunningham is a guy mentioned that people want to go play with. This is how it starts.
Amin Elhassan
I was skeptical at the beginning of the Cade Cunningham experience because I had seen a lot of players with high usage rates get viewed better than they are. Bridges is suffering from this right now in New York. God almighty. The Knicks fan hates Bridges. He's getting all of it. And I keep saying to my friends who are Knicks fans, do you guys understand how hard it is to be the third of the usage rates in that sport? Bosh and Love were able to do it and Jrue Holiday can do it, but it's what are you shaking your hands about?
Jeremy
To be fair, Bosh and Love walked in the door. Top five picks, here's your franchise win. Everything is going through you. You're scoring the points, you're being all stars, you're being all these accolades. And then they had to go be the third of the usage rates. Mikel Bridges was a middle of the first round pick who was a really good role player with Phoenix and then got traded to a Brooklyn team for Kevin Durant. So they didn't have anything. So then it was like, okay, Mikel Bridges, we'll give you a taste of the limelight. And he was great that half season. And then the next season we realized, oh yeah, he's not really suited to be a high usage player. If anything, this is a return to what should be a familiar environment for him being just a guy. I'm great.
Amin Elhassan
He doesn't want to be it anymore, though.
Jeremy
No. I don't know if he can be the other one though.
Dan Le Batard
Do you think of what the Knicks could. They gave up five unprotected for Mikel.
Amin Elhassan
But I mean, when you give that much up for him, you announce on the spot. We think of you that way, Dan.
Jeremy
This is the point that I made at the time because everyone was like, well, it's the power of friendship. Oh, they're going to hold the buddies from Villanova play together.
Stugotz
Who would do that?
Jeremy
The reality is this thing, this ecosystem, this trade marketplace, it has meaning and it has value. And so when you send, even if he's this hidden gem that no one is picking up on, no one else would ever give up five first round picks. But let's just assume the Knicks had the foresight that like, no, actually he might be the best player in the league and you guys just don't know it yet. His, his market value was not that you don't overpay on that because A, what if you're wrong, but B, it reduces your ability to do other things. The reason why the Knicks can't improve their roster anymore now is because they don't have picks. You don't think with the Siannis issue right now they would have loved to have some of those first round picks back?
Amin Elhassan
Well, the thing about Leon Rose and the Knicks architecture that I find Fascinating right now, as they reach, I believe, a real pressure point. I mean, they built something that now has expectations when they haven't closed out a home playoff game for their customers this century. And when you give that fan base two years allowed, it comes with expectations that if it loses in the first round to the Detroit Pistons, the level of anger that I'm already hearing from the New York fan toward Thibodeau, toward everybody who's not Brunson, everybody who's not Brunson in Hart is getting crushed because the expectations on this team are higher than they've been in a century.
Jeremy
The first guy on the chopping block is the Butcher, unfortunately, that he's the one, if it goes down, the first person who's getting blamed.
Amin Elhassan
And by blamed, I mean it's already happening, though. I'm hearing and watching. I'm soaking in these next broadcasts as they're happening. And they're just yelling at Thibodeau with an anger that suggests they don't think he can do this job. And I'm like, I kind of trust that.
Jeremy
Coach Dan, this is what we're talking about with David, right? It's like, does a guy do a good job or not? Right? And then if things don't go the way we expect it to, the way we plan it to, the way we want it to, are we signing appropriate blame? Meaning, are we losing because Tom Thibodeau is making strategic decisions that are putting us in a bad spot? Now, some would argue, hey, overplaying your guys during the regular season, that is a strategic decision. Jalen Brunson's ankle rolling despite not stepping on anyone's foot or just him moving, right? Part of that is because it's an ankle that's been injured before. And when you roll your ankle, you are infinitely more susceptible to further injury to it. Unless it heals, you get the proper rest. But we know it didn't get the proper rest. Now, I would argue that wasn't Tibbs fault. That's the 65 game rule's fault, right? Because if we didn't have the 65 game rule, he wouldn't have to rush back in order to play those games to make sure that he qualified. But neither here nor there. The reality is, if the Knicks lose in the first round, I don't think Tom Thibodeau survives. And it's a shame. It's the same thing that happened to Michael Malone. It's the same thing that happened to Taylor Jenkins. These are guys who have done phenomenal jobs all of them in cities where they had struggled, right? These guys came in and said, I know you're looking at decades of being awful. I will fix it. I will reverse it. I will change the culture here. They all did that. And the thanks that they got was, get the hell out of here.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, they've been a nothing franchise for decades, and now year after year after year, with Thibodeau as the coach, they're. They're in the mix. And, like, they can get rid of them if they don't.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, no, but you have. You have to understand the way this was built for loud New York fan is we're going to break up this team that you love, and we're going to give you a threesome, and Bridges is going to be part of it. To challenge the Celtics, we're one. We're going to. We're going to make trades that are win right now. We think we can beat the Celtics right now. That's an architectural flaw because you're not as good as they are, and you're not as good as Cleveland. And you can count on Mitchell Robinson's hands the way you once counted on Nerlands Noel's, and he. He will clean up around the basket, but you're not as good as those teams. And the season's going to end in failure. But if it ends in failure in the first round, being up 3:1 and.
Jeremy
Game seven at home, like, I mean, obviously we're putting the cart before the horse. There still has to be a game.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, I'm just saying, that's what the pressure is now on a hurt franchise that limps into these games with a fan base that's waiting to question them.
Jeremy
That's not the worst part. The worst part is let's assume they get out of this series right alive. The Celtics are done. They're resting. Jrue Holiday's resting that hamstring. Jaylen Brown's resting that quad. Those guys are waiting, and they already know, oh, we kick your ass every time we play. Now you're going to give us, like, three, four days of just chilling and watching you play and struggle. And, oh, they don't like it when this happens. Oh, this is what happens. We get the ball out of Brunson over here, we trap him over here. Like, they're just game planning and getting smarter every single day while you're over here trying to struggle to survive.
Amin Elhassan
Is there any more? General Hospital Stephen A. Smith, he's reporting on first take right now that the NBA should punish Tyrese Halliburton's father for the altercation with Giannis Antetokounmpo. Quote. I think that this should go down as one of the most embarrassing moments of his life. He should be ashamed of himself.
Stugotz
The father. Giannis or Giannis the father.
Amin Elhassan
The father.
Stugotz
I don't know. I didn't think it was embarrassing for him.
Jeremy
Stood on business.
Amin Elhassan
Stood on business. According to Tony.
Stugotz
Zaz, you know Terry's Halliburton is who his cousin is.
Amin Elhassan
No.
Stugotz
Eddie Jones.
Jeremy
How about.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, okay.
Stugotz
Got an Eddie Jones shirt there somewhere.
Dan Le Batard
Hidden, or do you want to see my shirt?
Amin Elhassan
I do want to see your shirt. This is the second shirt from the Zaslow mansion. The shirt that his wife would like him to throw out. I asked Jonathan Zaslow to bring the three of his shirts from the closet that would show his wife's disapproval the most. The second shirt is.
Stugotz
I remember that one.
Amin Elhassan
A Chris Bosh retirement jersey from 2019. Retirement shirt. You remember that one you predicted? What was the one you predicted would make W?
Stugotz
I don't think we're gonna have the white W, but a white W would be great.
Jeremy
I gotta say, I'm really disappointed. Zaz, you brought us two Other three shirts so far are post. Big three.
Stugotz
Thank you. Post. I don't want to say post.
Jeremy
Hassan Whiteside really is what I'm talking about.
Dan Le Batard
I told you, though, like, we've given so many to goodwill over the years.
Amin Elhassan
Man, you are disappointing so far. So I think the way you're selling.
Stugotz
It is that these are, like, super old and ratty, and they show how much of a lifelong fan Zaz is. And we're going back all the way back to 2016. The oldest shirts.
Dan Le Batard
Number one is the coup de gras.
Amin Elhassan
Well, this is what I believe that Zazzle has done.
Stugotz
Zazzle has done.
Amin Elhassan
I believe that what Zazzle has done is he has reduced expectations to a point now with number three and number two, that number one is going to really blow our nipples off.
Jeremy
I just want to say right now, I have a polo shirt from when I worked for the Hawks at my house right now. Right. That's 1999, maybe 2000. You're bringing me 2019. The pandemic was right around the corner. What are you doing? This isn't rare.
Stugotz
That's history right there. Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
Zaslo is embarrassing himself.
Stugotz
Not even a is a Chris Bosh years post retirement. Chris Bosh shirt.
Amin Elhassan
That shirt is practically new compared to some of the rags that these guys are putting as tropos on mops in their. In their House.
Stugotz
I'm wearing a shirt from Pitt that someone sent me that I'm pretty sure is older than 2019.
Jeremy
This shirt right here, this is way older than 2019.
Dan Le Batard
I got. You should be embarrassed then, because you.
Jeremy
Got brand new clothes.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, I sleep in these now.
Stugotz
You're lashing out.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not going out in public like you.
Jeremy
It looks brand new.
Stugotz
It does.
Amin Elhassan
It does not look brand new.
Dan Le Batard
What are you talking about?
Amin Elhassan
This is not. Christine's wife wants to get rid of it because the Chris and the Bosch. Those are not. Those are supposed to be all white letters. They're black and white because the white has been washed through.
Dan Le Batard
Because barely read what it says.
Amin Elhassan
Zaslo is. Zaslo is wearing this shirt too much is the problem. His wife doesn't like it.
Dan Le Batard
Feel it.
Amin Elhassan
It's comfortable because it's too comfortable. It's another comfortable, right?
Stugotz
Yes.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
Jeremy
But, Dan, this might be a proximity thing because to the viewers on screen and from us over here, it looks very white. We can read it very clearly.
Amin Elhassan
He brought it because the white in the letters had actually. It has rubbed off from the washings. It has been made clear that that shirt has been washed too much.
Stugotz
I have no expectations for number one. I'm going to be honest with you so far.
Dan Le Batard
That's my move right there.
Amin Elhassan
You know what?
Stugotz
It's way too big. If it doesn't say cycling on it.
Amin Elhassan
Let's get right to it, because so far you have the build up. If it doesn't say cycling, if this is white, it's white. All right.
Stugotz
Faded white.
Amin Elhassan
Hold on.
Stugotz
They got to retire that white hot. If we're going to be honest, right? Like Zazzle, they got to retire that white hot. Every playoff. We're embarrassing ourselves at this point in time. Every time it's white hot. You knew you were going to get destroyed in this playoff. I think you play it by ear and you say this is going to be a run. We do white hot. This one. We knew you can't do white hot today.
Amin Elhassan
Before you reveal the shirt, please, from the room, what are some guesses here that will meet your expectations? Just because I want to put the pressure here on Zazlon already. You guys are, you know, going back to Ronnie Cycle. You want, like, a double double from 1999 years old. That's unreasonable to do that. But. But if it's pre LeBron, that will meet with your approval.
Stugotz
I don't think this will be pre LeBron. I don't know. I think this is going to be like LeBron's first or second year. I was shooting for the team when LeBron got here.
Amin Elhassan
No, that's my father.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, come on. You and I, we're getting to know each other better. We feel like we got a good thing going here. I mean, you're a little too involved.
Stugotz
Just calling, like I see it. Let's.
Dan Le Batard
Let's take it down a notch.
Amin Elhassan
A little too involved with what?
Dan Le Batard
With everything.
Amin Elhassan
With Wild Willie Wednesdays?
Dan Le Batard
No, just everything. He's got so much going on now. Calm down.
Stugotz
You're my turf friend.
Dan Le Batard
No, I understand.
Amin Elhassan
He get him with a friend and his own dog. Things are escalating with Billy Gil. Things are escalating around here.
Jeremy
Let's see this shirt. All right, here we go.
Amin Elhassan
It is 2016 white hot heat playoffs.
Dan Le Batard
Gotta have that heart.
Jeremy
Get out of here, man.
Amin Elhassan
It is hard.
Jeremy
Get out of here. That is right.
Stugotz
Those black letters are faded.
Amin Elhassan
It is ratty, but still 2000.
Jeremy
It looks. It is very ratty. Is. This is what the level of quality that we were expecting out of all three shirts. This one is actually faded. Not just like the other one, but this right here. He getting booed. He's getting booed because he gave us three shirts that all happened like heart in the Goran Dragic era. You gave us Hassan Whiteside, Goran Dragic level shirts.
Amin Elhassan
Zazzo, I'm going to need you to go back through your closet and look through some more things and bring more things for your next appearance here.
Dan Le Batard
Heart.
Amin Elhassan
Yes, it does have a great deal of heart. The whole room is disappointed by your.
Stugotz
I was expecting like a Western Eastern Conference Finals, 2004, something.
Jeremy
As I have never in my life ever rooted for the Atlanta Hawks one time. And I tell you, I have a trash bag full of gear that puts all of that.
Stugotz
I'm going to put this to shame tomorrow. Tomorrow I will. I will show you three raggedy shirts.
Dan Le Batard
I'm going to go to Goodwill this afternoon and get my shirts back.
Amin Elhassan
You know what I mean? When you fly back next week or whenever it is you're coming back, I want you to bring back three of your rattiest shirts I'd like us all to take.
Dan Le Batard
Let's have a rat off.
Amin Elhassan
Now, unfortunately, I've recently cleaned out a bunch of stuff. Although I think you guys, I have.
Stugotz
You're not a giveaway guy, though.
Amin Elhassan
Listen, I've done it personally. No, no, not. No.
Jeremy
I got a list here, Dan.
Stugotz
You took it to the hard all of a sudden.
Amin Elhassan
What is the top five?
Jeremy
What do you have things you don't do with Dan.
Amin Elhassan
Okay, let's see here. I like this. And I also need to get to the boost mobile line, so please hurry up.
Jeremy
So, Ooli, is Dan giving away his own stuff? That does not. Oli, don't let Dan pay for parking.
Stugotz
Yep.
Jeremy
Oli, criticize Pat Riley or Mickey Arison.
Amin Elhassan
Don't let Dan pay for parking. Why can't I pay for parking?
Stugotz
Okay, a guy who's just wearing a.
Roy
Vest who's not parking.
Jeremy
This is giving to anybody. All right, all right. Number five, play a long video about chicken in the middle of the show. That's number four.
Amin Elhassan
There's the second video. Number four, first one. It was the second three minute video.
Jeremy
Number four, charge Dan, but tell him no cash.
Amin Elhassan
It's infuriating. Un American. Number three, I want to set fire. I'm going to. I'm going to get arrested for arson. One of these places that refuses to take my cash.
Jeremy
Number three, accidentally talk at the same time as someone standing behind you. Number two, give him something, anything. And the number one thing you don't do with Dan Levitard, tell him a secret.
Stugotz
Leaky Fossetard.
Amin Elhassan
I thought I'd buy myself something with transparency. Had a friend laugh at me about that the other day. Hey, you can't keep a secret. Well, you tell everybody the truth. You're honest all the time. No, it buys you nothing. Buys you nothing at all.
Jeremy
That's not transparency. When you tell secrets, it is weird.
Stugotz
Considering what your, like, profession was, right? Like, you're, you're a journalist, you had sources, but, like, if we tell you anything, you tell everyone everything.
Amin Elhassan
But that's because when he's reporting, he's.
Stugotz
Able to put out that information, like, right away.
Amin Elhassan
So he's keeping the secret, but he's used to within a. It's out of his head.
Stugotz
He doesn't have to keep the secret anymore.
Jeremy
I love the psychology of this. It's like Dan's whole adult life, he's been told secrets that he's been allowed to tell everybody else in print. And everyone's always applauded him and said, hey, what a great job, Dan. You're so good at it. And so Dan is now psychologically trained to believe that giving secrets out is a good thing. So if you tell him a secret, he's like, I want that feeling again of everyone patting me on the back. Hey, here's the secret that Amin just told me.
Amin Elhassan
Or it's all content, but we're not.
Stugotz
Coming to you for content mining. We're coming to you with, you know, personal, private conversations that then you turn into content. That would be like Greg Cody writing an article about you getting engaged. Like that would be crazy.
Jeremy
To take something so personal, so private and turn it to cheapen it by turning it into content. Like the only. Who would do that? Who would do that? Only someone who trained under someone else who does that sort of thing. Someone who looked up to a mentor.
Stugotz
Perhaps, who does that kind of thing. Thing.
Amin Elhassan
That kind of thing. I'm disappointed that Zaslo is not in here with Cody, his nemesis. You realize Cody's avoiding him, right?
Stugotz
He'll be in there tomorrow. Will you?
Dan Le Batard
I'm not here tomorrow.
Amin Elhassan
Cody's avoiding him. We have the chance to have real genuine sparks between people.
Stugotz
I was telling them in back here that I want to ask my dad tomorrow about the Halliburton dad thing because my dad never obviously with kids, but like when I was playing sports growing up, other parents, coaches, officials, my dad, I've seen that type of like almost face to face with my dad.
Amin Elhassan
This is true. This is an absolutely true story I'm about to tell you. I still remember it from my childhood because it involves the funny name Wayne Ucina, who got his head handed to him by my father. And Wayne, you seen a wore the coaching shorts and was a big, big man. While my mom was in the stands talking to another woman about how my father had been just softened by coaching his sons and was a more gentle man, someone went after my brother's knees. And while my mother was saying this, my father had pinned Wayne Ucina on the floor and was beating the holy shit out of him. I'm sorry, Wayne.
Stugotz
Standing on business.
Amin Elhassan
I'm sorry. He was standing on business.
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 1: The House Was a Different Color
Release Date: April 30, 2025
Host/Participants: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Amin Elhassan, Jeremy, Roy
The episode kicks off after the initial advertisements, diving straight into light-hearted banter among the hosts. They set a playful tone, teasing each other about forgotten shirts and personal quirks, establishing the camaraderie that listeners enjoy.
Amin Elhassan initiates the discussion by sharing a personal anecdote about his father, Billy, who faced a parking scam when he forgot his wallet at a gas station. Stugotz expresses skepticism about the reliability of modern payment methods like Apple Pay, highlighting concerns over potential digital scams:
Stugotz (04:13): "I love technology... we’re going too far on some of these things."
Dan Le Batard acknowledges the validity of these concerns but jests about his own gullibility:
Dan Le Batard (05:17): "Why do I look like someone who doesn't appreciate convenience?"
The conversation shifts to a bizarre tactic where scammers repaint a house to disguise their nefarious activities, such as car theft. Stugotz shares his experience of parking at a house during a game, only to return and find the house a different color, suggesting deceitful intent.
Stugotz (09:35): "I’ve been in situations where I go and I park and I come back and the house is a different color."
Amin challenges the plausibility of this story, leading to a humorous yet critical exchange about the validity of such scams.
Amin Elhassan shifts focus to basketball, expressing a desire to discuss Jamal Murray's legacy, especially his playoff performances. He notes Murray’s ability to deliver exceptional scores when needed:
Amin Elhassan (03:24): "I do want to assess the legacy of Jamal Murray, who is not somebody who often scores 40 points a game, except when you really need it in the playoffs."
The hosts delve into the New York Knicks' disappointing performance in the playoffs, highlighting injuries to key players Jalen Brunson and RJ Barrett. They debate the future of Coach Tom Thibodeau, predicting potential dismissal if the team fails to meet high expectations.
Amin Elhassan (29:11): "If the Knicks lose in the first round, I don't think Tom Thibodeau survives."
Stugotz echoes these sentiments, criticizing the Knicks' strategic decisions and roster management:
Stugotz (23:35): "Cade Cunningham is a guy mentioned that people want to go play with. This is how it starts."
Jeremy and Amin discuss Cade Cunningham’s rising star power, attributing his recent performances to his ambitions and contrasting them with the Knicks' stagnation. They predict Cunningham will solidify his status as a top player through his playoff performances.
Jeremy (25:43): "He will enter the stardom that he wishes to have."
A recurring segment involves the hosts showcasing old, worn-out shirts from their personal collections. Amin critiques Stugotz and Dan for bringing shirts that represent bygone eras of their favorite teams, leading to playful ribbing and challenges among the hosts.
Amin Elhassan (33:00): "A Chris Bosh retirement jersey from 2019... It is ratty, but still 2000."
Stugotz and Jeremy defend their shirt selections, emphasizing their longtime fan status and the sentimental value of their memorabilia.
The friendly competition escalates as Amin demands more from Stugotz, urging him to dig deeper into his closet for even older shirts, resulting in humorous exchanges about the age and condition of their sports apparel.
Amin Elhassan (35:30): "It is hard."
Stugotz (35:41): "Faded white... We do white hot. This one. We knew you can't do white hot today."
As the episode winds down, the hosts reflect on the day's discussions, reinforcing their camaraderie and teasing future segments. They reiterate the frustration with the Knicks' performance and the overarching theme of trust issues, both in personal anecdotes and professional critiques.
Dan Le Batard (42:42): "Feel it."
The episode concludes with promises of more engaging content and the continuation of their trademark humor and insightful sports analysis.
Trust and Vigilance: The hosts emphasize the importance of being cautious in today's digital and physical landscapes, highlighting prevalent scams and the need for vigilance.
NBA Dynamics: There's a critical analysis of player performance and team management, particularly focusing on the Knicks' strategic shortcomings and Cade Cunningham's potential to reshape his career.
Host Camaraderie: The playful interactions and competitive spirit among the hosts add a layer of entertainment, making the discussions both informative and engaging.
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully blends sports analysis with personal anecdotes and humor, offering listeners a comprehensive and entertaining take on current sports topics and the hosts' personal experiences.