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Dan LeBatard
this is the Dan lebatar Show with the Stugats Podcast. This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings the Crown is yours.
Stugats
Put it on the poll please. Juju is the Pope weak on crime? Number 50 Greg Cody.
Dan LeBatard
I'm fuller than Verne Fuller.
Stugats
49.
Dan LeBatard
Where's my click click?
Stugats
48.
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Hey Butterfinger.
Stugats
47.
Dan LeBatard
Hunt.
Stugats
46.
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Scranton.
Stugats
45.
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I'm busier in a one arm paper hanger.
Stugats
44.
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Georgia, Georgia.
Stugats
43.
Dan LeBatard
I'm the kind of guy that 42. Ball on the jack.
Stugats
41.
Dan LeBatard
Hey hey with the monkeys baby.
Stugats
40.
Dan LeBatard
Thank you Billy.
Stugats
39.
Dan LeBatard
I love him like a pet. 38. Who made it a salad?
Stugats
37.
Dan LeBatard
We're rolling now, huh?
Stugats
36.
Dan LeBatard
Your brain beating me?
Stugats
35.
Dan LeBatard
Let's go States.
Stugats
34.
Dan LeBatard
Driver at comfort is paramount.
Stugats
33.
Dan LeBatard
Dummy up save up. 32 catches catch can. 31 doesn't make it right.
Stugats
30.
Dan LeBatard
So on and so forth.
Stugats
That's such a bad one. 29. Very good. That one's very good. 28.
Dan LeBatard
The Little League theory How did they get in there?
Stugats
27.
Dan LeBatard
Nice hat.
Stugats
26.
Dan LeBatard
The others they all learn from me.
Stugats
25.
Dan LeBatard
Don't go showering to try to please me.
Stugats
24.
Dan LeBatard
Look at that jerk.
Stugats
I can't believe he successfully pulled off a months long bit. 23.
Dan LeBatard
It's like a packing house in here. Should be hams hanging on hooks.
Stugats
Are these next to the the two new one?
Dan LeBatard
These next two are the two new ones.
Stugats
The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody is where you get your first exclusive look at what it is. The next ones are. We are about to break the top 20 here in what's been a month long bit that Mike can't stop yawning about. 20 are you on 22? 22 here unveil the newest one.
Dan LeBatard
22. What'd you learn?
Stugats
You felt pretty good about that.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, I did.
Stugats
You did that one with a Little
Dan LeBatard
bit of a flourish on the Greg Cody show podcast is a full extended etymology of the background on all these and what they mean, the origin, all that stuff.
Stugats
Really?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Stugats
So there's. You're writing something with them?
Dan LeBatard
It's extemporaneous, but yes. Yeah, I don't need to write it down to know.
Stugats
So it's a bit of an oral history.
Dan LeBatard
Yes, Oral history was a good way to put it.
Roy
What'd you learn is generally a greeting. It's like I'm walking into a room with a bunch of people I know. What'd you learn?
Dan LeBatard
Right.
Mike Ryan
I wasn't yawning, Greg. It's soundproof glass. I was literally saying, wow.
Dan LeBatard
Okay.
Stugats
Greg Cody said a couple of funny things while just sitting here muttering to himself before the show. One of the things that he said was, until I've talked about Ruben Bane, it hasn't been talked about.
Dan LeBatard
Right.
Stugats
Is what he said. More interesting, though, is he said, gesundheit when somebody sneezed. And I want to ask you guys what you say when someone sneezes? Because Cody informed me afterward. I'm like, you say gesundheit, huh? And he's like, well, sometimes. And then he said, sometimes I say bless you.
Dan LeBatard
Right. But I don't say God bless you because I don't want to be presumptuous, Doctor, Bless you. You know, I'm not God. And. Very good. I don't want to speak for God. And beyond that, all you're doing is sneezing. Why is God involved in this? Sneezing is not that big a deal.
Tony
Well, do you know where they bless you?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, yeah, I've heard all that.
Mike Ryan
Your soul leaves your body, and someone had to quickly say, God bless you.
Roy
What a dismissive wave you just gave.
Dan LeBatard
That.
Mike Ryan
Don't we have one more. We don't want the countdown.
Dan LeBatard
We don't know.
Stugats
Yeah, we're gonna get to it in a second. I want to tease it out.
Mike Ryan
You're edging me here.
Stugats
It's time spent listening. What are you, an amateur? People are waiting around for this stuff, so there's a little decentralizer.
Mike Ryan
I am a radio amateur.
Tony
I say bless you.
Dan LeBatard
Do you?
Tony
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
Is it worth a blessing, though?
Tony
Yeah. Well, my understanding is the bless you comes from because when you sneeze, your heart skips a beat.
Dan LeBatard
Well, supposedly. I don't believe that. I don't believe that for a minute.
Roy
Greg, would it change your mind at
Mike Ryan
all if you learned that the origin
Roy
of God bless you may have come from a Pope back in 590 CE.
Mike Ryan
Soft on crime immediately after sneeze to
Roy
protect a person from dying. It was Pope Gregory.
Dan LeBatard
How about that? Okay. I mean, he. Great name. Bad decision.
Stugats
When do you choose? Do you use anything else? Is it just gesundheit and bless you? Let's put up some options on a poll at Lebatard show.
Dan LeBatard
Say nothing is an obvious one because all you're doing is sneezing. You're not. If you're saying a heart attack, then I say God bless you, because I want God to step in and save your life.
Tony
If someone's having a heart attack, the only thing you're doing is saying God bless you.
Dan LeBatard
And I call 911 right after that in that order.
Roy
You say that to me and I'm having a heart attack. You're a jerk.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, okay. But the point, the larger point is that if you sneeze, particularly if you don't sneeze the right way, like earlier, before we came on the air, Lebatard sneezes over here. And it sounded like a grunt. It sounded like a bull in the field.
Stugats
Muffled. It was a bit muffled.
Tony
It didn't deserve your blessing.
Dan LeBatard
It was a snorting sneeze that barely sounded like it. I want a sneeze to sound like the word achoo. Okay? Give me a good classic achoo. I'm more likely to say bless you a little bit.
Roy
That I like to do at home is when my wife sneezes, I lovingly turn to her and I say, hey, shut up.
Dan LeBatard
I like that. See, that's the proper response because it makes light of the fact that sneezing is considered such a big deal that we're bringing God into it.
Stugats
Also funnier, given who he generally is, to not tell us it's a bit. And just tell us that that's what you do at home. Because it's. Because it's you. Because you saying shut up to anybody. When what this is is simple courtesy. Right? It's not that you need God's blessing. It's that someone has been in a momentary state of discomfort and you're saying, I noticed I'm present. I don't know what the general translation is for gesundheit. I'm more interested. The bless you is less interesting to me than Gesundheit, because I don't know how. Do any of you know how to spell that word? Yeah, you know how to spell. You think you could get it exactly right on tight. Do any of you think you can get. You can spell correctly? Do any of you think that you know the history. Because I sure as hell don't. On why it is that somebody says gesundheit. And what. What is the origin of that word?
Dan LeBatard
I think it's a German word, and I believe it's spelled G E S U N wrong. D E I T. There's.
Mike Ryan
There's one more on this list.
Stugats
I need to hear it.
Dan LeBatard
What is it? No.
Mike Ryan
On your countdown.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, there is.
Mike Ryan
That's what I'm asking you.
Stugats
I thought you meant another synonym. I don't want to. I don't want to get to it just yet. Zaz. Does he really have it wrong after saying. All right, try it again, Greg.
Dan LeBatard
G E S U N D e I T. Incorrect.
Mike Ryan
Remember, it's German. They throw things where they should spell
Tony
the exact same way. You did.
Stugats
I did.
Dan LeBatard
I was hoping to fool you.
Stugats
I think there's an H after.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, there's a.
Mike Ryan
There's a silent h. H in there.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, spell it then. Well, you looked it up by now.
Mike Ryan
I have it there.
Dan LeBatard
Ready, people?
Mike Ryan
It's for you to spell, not for me. I'm not gonna take a quiz, Tony.
Stugats
But, Tony, it was funny, though. It was funny where he says, go ahead and spell it, and you say, all right, and then immediately look at your computer.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, because I don't know how to spell it.
Mike Ryan
Plus, when you look at it, it's like there's a lot of words here I gotta find which you know, which is the right one.
Stugats
Jeremy, just fine for us. At your leisure. Is it just the. Is it just German for bless you?
Roy
Yes.
Stugats
Okay.
Dan LeBatard
There you go.
Stugats
Okay. I put it on the Polat Lebatard Show. Did you know that gesundheit was German for bless you? It is weird and funny that you and any of us would choose the German word for bless you instead of just saying bless you when in this country and when not otherwise speaking German.
Dan LeBatard
The reason is gesundheit is like a funny word. You know, it's like a cartoon word that says. If I say to you gesundheit, what I'm really saying is you sneezed. Imagine that. I got to say something.
Roy
I'd rather say gross.
Mike Ryan
It used to literally mean health in
Roy
German and then also at one point
Mike Ryan
was used when they would toast to
Roy
a drink, but that's now largely obsolete
Mike Ryan
according to Merriam Webster dictionary. Greg, maybe you'd like the Spanish version. Like very much like Kazoon. Tight is salud, which is in Spanish.
Dan LeBatard
Health. S A L, U D. Am I right?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that kind of Thing.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, now that's. That's a proper toast.
Stugats
Can you guys. Can you guys imagine the horror of the first person and surrounding people to witness a sneeze? That's why I would assume that we're shouting about health to people.
Dan LeBatard
So in this.
Mike Ryan
In this scenario, then you have grown people that are looking around, and then one guy sneezes. But no other person in that lot has ever sneezed.
Stugats
The first sneeze. There was a first sneeze, correct? There was. At some point, there was.
Roy
I'm on it.
Stugats
The first person I've thought about this with. With lightning storms. How horrifying this had to be to the original caveman, like, what the. What the hell is happening here? This is horrifying. And it's the two places I've thought of it. The original lightning storm and the original sneeze. And at the third place, the birthplace of comedy, the original fart.
Mike Ryan
Original fart is good. That's funny.
Tony
Well, how about the first time someone witnessed someone getting struck by lightning?
Stugats
Well, that's not witnessed a lot. And it would be horrifying. At any time through human history, that remains horrifying.
Mike Ryan
The first birthday.
Stugats
Oh, my God.
Mike Ryan
The human coming out of you.
Stugats
The first. The first labor.
Mike Ryan
Let's get to number about your belly growing, because what is this?
Dan LeBatard
I know.
Stugats
It's been happening to me all my life.
Dan LeBatard
I gotta get on a treadmill. That's what the first pregnant woman was saying. By the way, just as a quick aside, I'm the kind of guy that doesn't have to ever cover his mouth when he sneezes. Why? Because I keep my mouth shut. I have a closed mouth sneeze.
Tony
There's no way that that sneeze comes
Mike Ryan
out of your nose then. Yeah. Sneezing out of your nose.
Dan LeBatard
No, it's internal. My sneeze.
Stugats
But it could be wet out of your nose. It could.
Dan LeBatard
But it isn't, though.
Stugats
But it could. What do you mean? It depends.
Roy
I gotta see this thing.
Stugats
I also don't believe that you can. It's not possible. I think I have this right. I don't think this is an urban myth. It's not possible to urinate while sneezing correctly stops.
Roy
Apparently everything stops.
Stugats
The body. Your body seizes for a moment and nothing works. So it's not just urination. You don't think that there's anything else?
Roy
You stop breathing. It's just hard.
Stugats
It's just instant tasering paralysis.
Roy
That's what I've heard.
Mike Ryan
Can you imagine if that Ever happens during a big sports moment, like an end of the NBA Finals? Big time free throw, and a guy is setting up and he sneezes as he's about to release? That'd be incredible.
Roy
What about the Masters 18th tee?
Tony
Come to think of it, have you ever seen an NBA player sneeze?
Dan LeBatard
No. No.
Stugats
Draymond Green always looks like he's.
Roy
Let me see if I can find a video of NBA player sneezing.
Stugats
But you're not gonna find it. What do you think? You think there's a video? You think you can check the entirety of the Internet and find a video that just is NBA players sneezing?
Roy
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
Oh, Absolutely. Mike. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
Oh, delicious.
Mike Ryan
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Stugats
Don LeBatard. Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more.
Dan LeBatard
I'm sorry.
Roy
I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them too?
Dan LeBatard
It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100 on me.
Mike Ryan
All right, Stugach.
Dan LeBatard
But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't happen.
Mike Ryan
Well, now he said I didn't. He didn't say it
Tony
again.
Stugats
Greg.
Dan LeBatard
My apologies, Greg.
Stugats
Why Greg? Yeah, Greg. He apologized.
Tony
And Craig, sincerely, this is the Dan
Dan LeBatard
Levatar show with the stugats. My funniest part of the sneeze is when you're about to sneeze and you look at sunlight because sunlight makes you sneeze. If you're going like this, you look at the sun and it brings on the sneeze.
Stugats
21.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, 22 was what you learned.
Stugats
Yeah. That's why 21 is now Hee Haw 3. Really?
Dan LeBatard
That's correct.
Stugats
That doesn't make the top 20 an all timer. For those of you who do not know Greg, please stand behind me at and show people this because I want to recreate Chris Cody's childhood. For those who don't, do not know the history of this. Greg Cody was a street umpire and his kids hated that he was the street umpire, but they needed that.
Mike Ryan
True.
Stugats
Yes. They hated it because he make it, not surprisingly about him. And so when someone would strike out, Greg Cody would have this as the third strike call.
Dan LeBatard
Hee Haw 3.
Mike Ryan
There are 20 better than that.
Dan LeBatard
MLB haven't adopted that.
Stugats
What happened to your bidet?
Dan LeBatard
Well, that's an aside. Yeah, the bidet came to be attached to Hee Haw3, but it's always parenthetical and it's best used almost as a punchline. Like this should be a two or three second pause between the Haw3. The Hee Haw3 beat beat. But see, again, that's the etymology of it. There's a background. There's a method to the madness on all these things. But next week we're in the top 20.
Stugats
How is that out of the top 20? I think that's shocking. You said last week that you have 17 worthy of number one. Yeah, I would have thought that that would have been one of them. That is what one of your classics around here and.
Dan LeBatard
And that's how good the list is.
Tony
You're telling me that you have the
Dan LeBatard
remainder of this list laid out not in sequential order. I have a three page lists of more than I think we. There are almost 100 because of the ones I've added during the countdown. So from 100 I get the top 50.
Roy
Pardon me.
Stugats
The elser is always interested in improving. Sometimes more loudly than others.
Mike Ryan
It's like right underneath my feet. I feel the drill bit.
Dan LeBatard
I know you feel the buzzing.
Roy
Dan. While we're kind of cleaning out the sneezing category here I have Quinn and Williams the football player during before he was drafted he was interviewed and in it he sneezes, blesses himself and then thanks himself.
Stugats
Ok. And you can get the Lou Holtz. You can whatever sneezing. And we had for a time this is actually Zazzle said yesterday that he loves some of the old 790 stories. What I remember about the moment that we arrived as a show where we were uncommonly popular and it was confusing to me how many young people were listening to us was at live nightclubs very early in where it is that they were starting to become one of the biggest nightclubs in the world. Jump around came on as a song and and a giant group of people started jumping up and down singing I'm a violent Sneezer because we had a bit for a long time that was Goose Gossage threw out his back as a reliever sneezing one time and he looks like somebody who would throw out his back sneezing. Jokic looks like somebody who in sports right now looks to you most Draymond's always mid sneeze but he's fighting off a sneeze dream. But who looks to you most likely because of thickness of body that if they went on the uninjured reserve and I told you yeah. Threw out their back sneezing you'd say yeah, I could. I could see that because of the thickness of their body.
Mike Ryan
Shane Lowry.
Stugats
I thought you were going to go Kyle Lowry.
Mike Ryan
I like Shane here. I like my hand.
Stugats
Desmond Bain also a good one for me just wouldn't surprise me if he threw out his back sneezing. But go ahead and clean, clean out the sneezing file.
Dan LeBatard
I'm a violent sneezer.
Stugats
That's Dusty Rhodes doing it. That's the fake. That's Cody Rhodes father, Dusty, the fake Dusty Rhodes. And he is. He's a violent sneezer.
Dan LeBatard
I'm a violent sneezer.
Roy
Now we have Lou Holtz, the famous one.
Stugats
Also mentioned Amir Abdullah.
Tony
Now Marshall, usually it's all Rakim Kato,
Stugats
who did throw a touchdown pass in his 43.
Tony
Devin Johnson put up 272 yards.
Stugats
That's a Marshall record. Nothing to sneeze at. Those papers on that desk were covered. It's not right. Like the, the sound, you know. Don't tell me it's not. Listen to the weapon. Well, you think so? Here, just. Let's listen again and you guys tell me whether there's spray here or not. Yes or no. Also mentioned Amir Abdullah.
Tony
Now, Marshall, usually it's all Rakim Cato,
Stugats
who did throw a touchdown pass in his 40.
Dan LeBatard
That was a wet set.
Roy
Now you're right.
Dan LeBatard
That's a wet.
Mike Ryan
So much spray.
Roy
There is some spray there all over the. Tries to stifle it, but yeah, you
Mike Ryan
could tell it's on his shirt.
Stugats
So you guys think that Trevor Matich is looking at the b. The back of one of his paws and he's like, oh, my God, Lou, what are you. And yeah, shaking his hand clean. What else do you have in the sneezing?
Roy
We have Quinn and Williams sneezing, blessing himself and then thanking himself.
Dan LeBatard
Different character things.
Stugats
Listen, thank you that I got here.
Roy
So
Dan LeBatard
he didn't say bless me, did he? Thank you. Okay.
Stugats
Okay. But do you understand that this is funny as audio, but visually, the sound that comes out of Holtz is the one that you'd think would come out of Williams, but the sound that comes out of Williams is the sound you'd think would come out of a frail old man.
Dan LeBatard
Different character things. Listen, thank you.
Stugats
That I got here. So that's not a. That's, that's a. A gentle breeze. That's not a sneeze. That's a. That's. That's curtains billowing open. That's not a sneeze. How. How big is that man?
Dan LeBatard
How.
Stugats
What is the. What is the size of that human being? That is not a sneeze that matches the size in any way. And I could barely. Like, the sneeze is. It's so muffled as to be that of a. Of a mouse. 63303 play one more time so I can hear how delicate that is. Different character things. Listen, thank you that I got here.
Mike Ryan
So he's a holder in her, just like Greg Cody.
Tony
That's what it is.
Dan LeBatard
You gotta. You gotta develop the art of close mouth sneezing. You have to. It works.
Stugats
What are you laughing about? Says, I mean, why do you bless
Tony
himself and thank himself?
Stugats
Somebody has to use your life on delay. Like you're just. You're just. You're just realizing.
Tony
I just don't think it counts if you bless yourself.
Stugats
No, it does. What do you mean it doesn't count?
Roy
Somebody else very courteous to himself.
Stugats
You think it doesn't count? What do you mean it doesn't count? It doesn't count. Count as a blessing.
Tony
You need someone else to bless you. Like if you. Like if you're dying, you can't just then start blessing yourself. You need someone else to give you the blessings and the prayers.
Dan LeBatard
So it matters if I bless you?
Stugats
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
For sneezing?
Stugats
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
What am I, a clergyman all of a sudden? What authority do I have to bless?
Tony
I know I don't have any authority to bless myself. Somebody else got to do it for me. Help me out.
Stugats
Can someone please explain to me, because I do want an explanation for this. Shams is going on Pat McAfee and doing something he generally doesn't do as an insider. And he's going after Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers likes to go after Shams and Shams credibility. And he says that Shams is inaccurate. And he says he's objecting to Shams report that. That the Bucs are the most or were the most toxic situation in the league. And it was thoroughly reported. It was a written piece. And he talked to a great many people. But he got the perspective clearly from the camp of Yanis. It was informed by the camp of Yanis. And it is, I'm assuming, an accurate appraisal of how that camp feels. And Doc is questioning it. And I'm wondering if it's possible that neither one of these people is actually lying. Is it possible that Doc's just out of touch or that Charms is getting a wrong appraisal. Is it possible that they have two different perspectives on this, that Doc is used to locker rooms that are bad, that it's not that abnormal a thing to have a disgruntled superstar. Some of this stuff is out in public. Is it possible that neither of them is lying? They're just different perspectives.
Dan LeBatard
I think it's more likely that somebody is misleading Shams than the Opposite, because that's a problem with having a source, whether it's an agent.
Stugats
He's got a lot of sources, though. It's not just one. He's got a lot of sources, and one of them appears to be Cam Thomas. Disgruntled player.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, but sources aren't working for the reporter. Sources are working for their vested interest for their client. And they want to put forth whatever narrative suits them. You know, it's not that they're chummy with Cham and want to gift him a scoop or anything. They're. You know, there's a. There's always an interest outside of what's referring to.
Stugats
I don't question Shams information. I don't. Some of the means of getting the information is something I've questioned, but I don't question his information. He tends to get all this stuff right for context.
Mike Ryan
Excuse me. He was publicly challenged by both the Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler's agent about a story, and Shams let the agent do his thing, which was probably telling him one thing and then publicly doing another, withstood Pat Riley and the Miami Heat organization making a rare public show of calling into question his integrity. And CHAM just bid his time, and then he was right in the end.
Tony
So why is he speaking out this time, though?
Mike Ryan
I don't know. I don't know. And I'm curious as to why people think Cam Thomas is a source here.
Stugats
Let me get the sham sound before we answer that question.
Tony
Listen, the reality of everything in Milwaukee is this. If they spent as much time dealing with their own internal dynamics and problems as they do responding to accurate reports,
Roy
they wouldn't be in the mess that
Dan LeBatard
they're in right now.
Tony
I'm just focused on doing the job
Roy
at the highest of levels that I possibly can.
Stugats
I got one more for you.
Tony
I got one more for you. All right, so I watched some documentaries
Stugats
from time to time.
Roy
I saw one on Fyre Festival. Right.
Dan LeBatard
And so the. The.
Tony
The part we're at now is when,
Roy
you know, everyone wants to run and
Stugats
you're doing the COVID up, and again, it's totally fine.
Tony
I'm just here to document and cover it the right way. And I. I feel like we've done an unbelievable job tracking everything.
Dan LeBatard
And at the end of the day,
Tony
the last month and a half, we've seen it. Can I just say that I love that Fyre Fest documentary so much. Has anyone seen them?
Stugats
They're two of them.
Tony
I saw the first one, the OG One, where they open up that meal and it's like one slice of brew.
Stugats
They're both good.
Roy
They're.
Stugats
They're both. They're both excellent documentaries. Was yours the one that talked to the fraudster or didn't have the fraudster?
Tony
No, I think they talked to him.
Stugats
Okay. I think the other one's better.
Tony
Oh, really?
Stugats
Yeah, I think the. I saw them where the guy s a d. I believe so, yeah.
Mike Ryan
That's the only one I know about.
Tony
Supposed to be like luxury suites. They're like tents.
Stugats
There is a shocking story, and I believe the other one, that when you see the other one, you'll see why it is that the other one is more memorable.
Tony
Love Fyre Fest.
Mike Ryan
That is a bar from Shams, and it's totally accurate. From where I'm standing, this whole Milwaukee thing is a total mess.
Tony
Oh, I mean, obviously it's a mess, but I don't know, like you just said, Shams didn't hit back at the Miami Heat one, but this one, for whatever reason, he's deciding, you know, because Doc Rivers come at him a couple times. You remember when Shams was participating in the celebrity game at the All Star? Doc Rivers made the quip that because he's on Giannis team, maybe Giannis will trade Shams through the other team. Like, Doc's been needling him a couple of times. And I love this story, by the way. I hope it continues. All right. I just think it's. It's pretty unusual for a guy who I think we all acknowledge is the best in the business, where he's not just letting the reporting speak, where it's, hey, I got to take a jab, too.
Mike Ryan
Is he also reading the room where maybe where the Miami Heat and Jimmy Butler's agent still had plenty of time in this sport. Doc is probably done being a meaningful person in this sport in terms of coaching teams and whatnot. So he's like, okay, we'll go ahead. You want some? Let's do this now.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, you. You may be right. But when I think of Doc Rivers, he's the ultimate recyclable coach, right? Like, if I had to make a prediction, if I had to bet, I'm like, yeah, Doc Rivers is going to turn up again with another team. I'd be surprised if he didn't. And so in. In effect, Shams is burning this bridge that he may have to deal with.
Stugats
Well, Doc told Beetle Michelle Beetle that he'd heard from 10 to 15 people that shams was going to get revenge on him for what it is that Rivers told Beetle the joke earlier this season that Giannis should trade Shams, like,
Tony
so that means Shams is going around. He's apparently telling at least 10 to 15 people, I'm going to get revenge on Doc rivers. And those 10 to 15 people find Doc. Hey, you know what Chams told me? He's going to get revenge. I don't buy that.
Stugats
Okay, you don't have to buy that. And I don't know Shams this way. I think the best and most positive thing that I could say about Shams, not that I have very much negative to say about him, is he gets it right. Like, that part's hard to do. And there aren't a lot of examples that you can point to of him getting it wrong. He's absolutely at the top of credibility here. But Woj would do some vengeance shit. Like it wasn't quite impartial there. And so I don't know.
Tony
But he would do with his work, right?
Stugats
Well, but that's what. But that's what this could be perceived as. If Doc thinks that piece is a hit piece, and if it's meant to make Doc look bad, he could think that that piece was a byproduct of bringing. Look, man, this is a pretty positive time to beat Doc Rivers. You're getting into the hall of Fame. You get one chance at that. That is for retired athletes, the greatest thing. It's a fountain of youth. You get to relive your are on the sidelines, man. They've got control, but it's not like having the ball in your hands. It's not the same thing at all. You're in meetings, you're handling bullshit.
Tony
It's not.
Stugats
Coaches stay near the game because they miss what it was before. Doc was a really good player. And Doc is getting into the hall of Fame and he could revisit his youth as a. As a player and look at what he has instead. One of the few coaches ever fired immediately after getting into the hall of Fame. When the hell do you see that? And instead what you get is around that time, a sham story that says that's the biggest Mets in the league that he presides over. Excuse me.
Roy
Ah, folks, listen up. Let's talk about moms. Our madres. Could be your mom, could be a grandma, could be a stepmom. Whoever filled that role for you, what's the one thing that she does that nobody else does? Like the oddly specific way she texts and how she knows you're lying before you even finish that sentence. That's the good stuff. That's the she deserves way more than this type stuff. And yeah, flowers are the go to on Mother's Day, but not all flowers hit the same. That's why I like 1-800-FLOWERS. They've been doing it for over 50 years, so they've got it down pat. The bouquet shows up fresh, full, not sad, and half alive. Like some of these last minute gas station situations. And right now, this is big. You order one dozen roses, they double it to two dozen for free. Which makes it seem like you planned ahead when you probably didn't. And trust me, I've used them before. The box shows up, you open it, it smells legit. Looks great. It's one of those pat yourself on the back, I did a good job here type situations. Mother's day is Sunday, May 10, and the bouquets are selling out fast. Trust me. Do not wait to claim your double roses offer before they're gone. Visit 1-800-flowers-com dan. That's 1-800-flowers. Com dan, 1-800-flowers.com. you tell yourself no one wants your
Mike Ryan
college era band tees.
Roy
But on Depop, people are searching for exactly what you've got. You once paid a small fortune for them at merch stands.
Mike Ryan
Now a teenager who calls them vintage
Roy
will offer that same small fortune back. Sell them easily on Depop. Just snap a few photos and we'll take care of the rest. Who knew your questionable music taste would
Dan LeBatard
be a money making machine?
Roy
Your style can make you cash. Start selling on Depop, where taste recognizes taste.
Mike Ryan
K Pop Demon Hunters Haja Boys Breakfast Meal and Hunt Tricks Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi?
Stugats
It's not a battle.
Dan LeBatard
So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.
Roy
It is an honor to share.
Mike Ryan
No, it's our honor.
Roy
It is our larger honor.
Stugats
No, really, stop.
Mike Ryan
You can really feel the respect in this battle.
Stugats
Pick a meal to pick a side
Roy
and participate in McDonald's while supplies last.
Dan LeBatard
Don Lebatard Baker Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay 38 for 45 stugats. This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.
Tony
You're framing it there. The timing of it. As if Shams is holding onto it.
Stugats
Jesus. I'm sorry. I don't.
Roy
I don't hear it.
Mike Ryan
What are you guys talking about?
Stugats
It's Doc's. It's Doc's accusation. It's not mine.
Tony
Right, Right. Okay, so Doc's accusation, but also it's. It's coming out when. When Doc was just fired from Milwaukee. Like that's, that's. The timing is that it's not like with what's his name, Rory McElroy, where the reporter's waiting for Masters Week. No, Doc just got fired. This is the story. It's right now.
Stugats
Well, he didn't get fired, allegedly. He's got another year in his contract and he's going to be making about $10 million next year. And he might actually be a consultant for the Bucks, you guys. Different opinion, though. May have coached his last game. I wouldn't be surprised if he is back. He's. He's gotten a number of good jobs. Is this going to be the punctuation? Like he keep. He's always popular and charismatic enough to get great jobs.
Mike Ryan
You. You raise a good question. He did win a championship in Milwaukee, so it's not like this is a total disaster.
Dan LeBatard
I think he'll be on the. The talk to him list for any team with an opening. I would bet. I don't know what the odds would be, but I would bet that he's coaching somewhere next season if he wants to.
Stugats
All right, put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Is Doc going to coach again? Also way late, but I'm grateful it's here. Roy's video of the day is finally making an appearance. Roy's video of the day. Congratulations.
Mike Ryan
Developing this idea for three years.
Stugats
Yep.
Dan LeBatard
Finally got it done.
Stugats
And so you can see it in the bottom right hand corner of the screen. If you are somebody who watches the show on YouTube. Something we have not talk.
Roy
Talked about in this dog's taking a. On the baseball field.
Mike Ryan
Way to go, Roy.
Stugats
It is the. Yes. Mascot. The mascot dog that is supposed to come out and pick up the bat or whatever. Yeah. Just has to go to the bathroom and decides to do it near second base.
Roy
Not the mascot dog. The bat dog. That's right.
Stugats
It is the dog that's a mascot. Nope, it's not a mascot.
Roy
It's just a bat dog. Not in a costume. Wouldn't call the bat boy or the
Mike Ryan
bat girl a mascot.
Roy
They're just the bat boy or the bat girl.
Stugats
So you think this is a bat dog? You don't think this is the mascot?
Roy
That's exactly what it is. It's a bat dog.
Stugats
All right, put it on the poll at Levitard show. Is the bat dog a mascot?
Mike Ryan
I mean, technically, you mentioned Bat Boy and Batgirl. When in soccer. In European soccer, when all the children Come out in uniform with the soccer players. They do call those kids mascots.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Roy
This is baseball, where they have a bat boy and a batgirl.
Stugats
And that's a bat dog, not a bat boy or a bat girl. And if it is a bat dog, it might be male or female. So why wouldn't that be a bat girl or bat boy as well? Because that might be a very good boy. Although there it's being a bad boy.
Mike Ryan
Are you suggesting it might be a bat bitch?
Roy
That's a Pat dog.
Stugats
That was that. That was Pat McAfee's response to Shams dropping a bar on Doc R.
Mike Ryan
He's right.
Stugats
It's also the sound of a wildebeest dying painfully in the wild.
Roy
Really had a walrus or like a seal walrus strong. It's a dead walrus. If I've ever been the.
Stugats
He danced.
Mike Ryan
Say it was a good call.
Dan LeBatard
Say it.
Stugats
You think that's a walrus or a wildebeest?
Dan LeBatard
Let me hear it again.
Stugats
It's a bigger animal than a walrus. I feel like.
Mike Ryan
Dan, have you seen a walrus lately?
Dan LeBatard
I'm gonna go with walrus. Clap it up for walrus. Definitely walrus. Walrus has run. Great answer.
Mike Ryan
Good answer.
Dan LeBatard
Good answer. Big tusks.
Stugats
We have got to start getting ready for soccer and the World Cup. We're going to have games in this country. And we did not talk. And this is my fault that we did not talk about this. It is fairly shocking that Italy wasn't going to be in the World Cup. It is fairly more shocking that developments in the world that keeps Ira out of the World cup might make it so that now Italy is back in the World Cup. Do you, as a World cup lover and I've told your son the other day of that truly terrible motel that you and I stayed in in Los Angeles, in downtown Los Angeles.
Mike Ryan
Because there were so few places downtown in the 90s.
Stugats
Oh, yeah. Greg can tell you the story.
Mike Ryan
You watched the news back then, Greg,
Stugats
Cody and I stayed in a terrible downtown hotel. Cause it was so hard to get lodging the last time the World cup or not. Is that the last time?
Dan LeBatard
Is that 94? Yeah.
Stugats
The last time the World cup was in the United States. It was so hard to get.
Mike Ryan
Did you guys see the nightcrawler or not?
Stugats
What do you remember about that motel? Because downtown Los Angeles. We were the nightcrawler. We both, he and I were wandering around the streets of downtown Los Angeles looking for accidents, Right?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. And fires. Was Scott Price with us or my. Okay, I Think I remember that there was a. Maybe it was connected with a motel or hotel, but there was a restaurant there that had a particular dish that I kept going back to at a
Mike Ryan
motel at the Cecil Hotel.
Stugats
I've told you guys that this bar is one of the worst bars I've ever been in. Greg was in it every night. It was a bit of a tiki hut, but this was a straight up downtown motel.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Stugats
This was like 30 bucks a night.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, it was great. I loved it.
Roy
So the food you kept going back
Dan LeBatard
for the no Tell Motel, it was called.
Stugats
Regardless, I was talking to you about Italy. You got lost in your own thoughts. You remembered the. Scott, I did bring it up, but I was asking you about Italy.
Dan LeBatard
Italy is one of the international powers of soccer, and it's good for the World cup if they're in the tournament. Also for different reasons. I think it'd be pretty fun to have Iran in the tournament as well.
Stugats
Yeah.
Tony
What are some of those reasons?
Stugats
Put it on the poll.
Mike Ryan
Would you think it'd be fun if you run wearing the tournament?
Dan LeBatard
Fun.
Mike Ryan
Fun. Yeah, fun.
Dan LeBatard
They're supposed they're scheduled to play a game on July 3, the day in the United States. Chicago, I think. I don't know if that'll happen because they're asking for all their matches to be moved to Mexico. But, you know, that's intrigue. Intrigue is good. Controversy is good.
Mike Ryan
So Italy. Italy is actually making a recent habit of not making the World cup final because, look, my dog is about 76 years old in doggy years.
Tony
How'd you figure that out?
Mike Ryan
Took her to the vet. She's seen Italy play in the World cup once. For many people, the only memory they have in the World cup is Luis Suarez biting Chiellini. And also in the middle of this run where they're missing World Cup. Pardon me, spicy meatball.
Stugats
This is getting aggressively louder in the
Mike Ryan
middle of them missing all these World Cups. They've also won a European Championship in Wembley. That was a disaster, too. But this was hugely disappointing. Italy, all they had to do, unfortunately, they had to go through Bosnia and Herzegovina, but they had to play both of those countries. They did, and they lost and they're out. Gattuso, their manager, a former legendary player for the national team.
Tony
What do you say?
Mike Ryan
Well, famously, he once said, this summertime
Stugats
is maybe good summertime. It may be.
Mike Ryan
He has resigned. That's a great descriptor for our show, too. He has resigned, but now a small window of opportunity has opened up with Iran and the State of the World cup in doubt. FIFA is considering a four team playoff for one final opportunity for a team like Italy to make the World Cup.
Tony
That's like a play in.
Mike Ryan
It is. And it's also kind of unprecedented because this situation, usually it's decided well in advance. We're just a month and a half away here, and a decision needs to be made as we're still in military operations against Iran as the host nation. So Italy has a shot here. And now there are some Italians that are like, we don't want this charity case. A lot of people concerned, like, but they're gonna make fun of us if we make it. I don't think there's any shortage of people making fun of the Italian national. They have to hire a new manager for this. But yes, I think we should all be on board with Italy making the World cup because it would be an absolute scene.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, Italy is still thought of as a world power in soccer. I know that they maybe haven't been lately, but when I think of Italian soccer, I go all the way back to Giorgio Canalia, who was one of the stars of the early NASL in the. In the 70s. And back then, Italy was with Brazil and Germany and. And all those countries that you associate with international global football. And to me, that lingers. To me, Italy to this day would be a draw in a stadium in a way that better teams would not be.
Stugats
Summertimes may be good. Summertime it may be. I thought when Mike Ryan said that about what people remember generationally about the Italian soccer team. I'm remembering us stumbling out of that motel and Baggio missing a penalty kick is what I'm remembering.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, but you all.
Stugats
That's right.
Mike Ryan
By the way, Dan, really quick an update on the wildebeest versus walrus. Go ahead, play that. Wildebeest average about 5ft tall and 500 pounds. A male walrus is around 3,000 pounds and 9 to 12ft tall.
Stugats
Whoa. The walrus is bigger than the wildebeest
Mike Ryan
by like, three times.
Date: April 14, 2026
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Roy, Tony
Episode Theme: Exploring everyday rituals (notably sneezing), the history and etiquette around expressions like "bless you" and "gesundheit," sports journalism drama (Shams vs. Doc Rivers), and the quirks of sports and pop culture.
This episode blends the show’s trademark blend of humor, irreverence, and digressions as the crew discusses cultural rituals around sneezing, the etymology and etiquette of "bless you" and "gesundheit," personal sneezing habits, and memorable sneezing moments in sports. The crew also dives into the conflict between NBA insider Shams Charania and coach Doc Rivers while debating media ethics and sports reporting. Finally, they touch on soccer’s World Cup intrigue and quirky moments from baseball (with a bat dog incident).
| Quote | Speaker | Timestamp | |-----------|-------------|---------------| | “But I don't say God bless you because I don't want to be presumptuous, Doctor, Bless you. You know, I'm not God.” | Dan Le Batard | 04:00 | | “I want a sneeze to sound like the word achoo. Okay? Give me a good classic achoo. I'm more likely to say bless you...” | Dan Le Batard | 05:56 | | "I have a closed mouth sneeze.” | Dan Le Batard | 10:35 | | "I don't think this is an urban myth. It's not possible to urinate while sneezing." | Stugotz | 11:04 | | “Can you guys imagine the horror of the first person and surrounding people to witness a sneeze?” | Stugotz | 09:34 | | “He sneezes, blesses himself and then thanks himself.” | Roy (on Quinnen Williams) | 17:21 | | "What am I, a clergyman all of a sudden? What authority do I have to bless?" | Dan Le Batard | 22:07 | | “Sources aren’t working for the reporter. Sources are working for their vested interest...” | Dan Le Batard | 24:09 | | "Are you suggesting it might be a bat bitch?" | Mike Ryan | 35:37 | | “Italy is one of the international powers of soccer, and it's good for the World Cup if they're in the tournament.” | Dan Le Batard | 38:28 |
This hour is classic Le Batard Show: rapid-fire segments, in-jokes, cultural observations, and left-field humor, all delivered with a breezy, knowing irreverence. You’ll come away thinking more about why we bless sneezes, why some athletes never seem to sneeze, and why even the quirks of sports reporting can be hilarious in the right light.