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Dan Le Batard
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Eli
He's a television writer. He's the host of the latest metal arc football podcast Football America and he's doing Is that baby Billy that you are doing from the gemstones as your grid punish cocaine Okay, I guess so. Yes. That is what one squirt of this.
Dan Le Batard
No more Covid I gotta get rid of these teeth. Now. Go on, get. Go on, get. Now.
Eli
It is hard to talk with.
Dan Le Batard
Good impression.
Stugats
Great. Hunter Biden.
Eli
It was a good. It was a good impression. I thought it was Conor McGregor. Can you just put them back in, though, for the first bit of analysis here? I'd just like the first bit of football analysis. If you can do it in character. Give me some current playoff teams who can't afford to lose in week 12.
Dan Le Batard
Now, Eli, I want to talk about pigskin much as you do now, but I'm gonna talk about the Bus family. They from Hollywood. They understand show business. Something you don't get. Now. They. They don't know about that. Jerry Buss had an incompetent in his family a hanger on. I don't want to know what he had to deal with. But they had to get rid of them kids already. All right, let's talk about football. Now. I'm sorry, I tried to weigh in on something because I was drawing a connection between baby Billy and. And the busboys anyhow. Yes. Pro football teams.
Eli
Did you think we didn't understand what you were doing there?
Stugats
I just couldn't say because of the teeth.
Eli
Seemed pretty.
Dan Le Batard
That's why.
Eli
It seemed pretty clear that you were making the connection between what we were just talking about and this segment.
Dan Le Batard
Eli need to get some Jesus in his life. Stop. Stop talking back to me now. Listen. Yeah, I didn't know if I. If I was articulating myself well enough for you to understand what I was trying to lay down there. Yes. Let's talk about pro football, though, shall we? And there are a lot of teams, you know, if you talk to pro football players as you guys do, they'll tell you, things ramp up, things start getting real right around now. I'm kind of still doing Baby Billy there now. Things going to get real now. Right around Thanksgiving time, right around Turkey Day. Now, turkey is. Is something that Jessica Smitton and Mike Fuentes are too cool to eat, even though that's what you're supposed to eat on Thanksgiving. They need some Jesus in their lives. Um, but anyway, Thanksgiving is around the time that pro football players will tell you, I don't know what they were doing for the preceding three months, but they say now the season really starts. And guess what? We're at Thanksgiving, and there are a lot of teams that are sitting in the playoff spot, some of them even in first place. But if they drop a game this week, they're in serious jeopardy of missing the whole tournament. Let's tick through them. The Lions are right up there. I know everybody loves them. Borderline America's team of course football. America's Team 2025 was and is and will remain despite what happened on Thursday night. The Buffalo Bills. But the Detroit Lions, a lovable bunch too. If you ain't paying attention though, they're right on the cusp there. They should handle the Giants. If they don't, they're doomed.
Eli
They wouldn't be in the playoffs if they started today.
Dan Le Batard
Right. And they got to handle the Giants. Like I say, double digit favorite, which is almost damning them. Ten and a half. That's all they're given to the Giants. Sheesh. I think Vegas is starting to catch on that without Ben Johnson. They are on as we talked about a couple few months ago, they are on a gentle decline where the Bear. Where While the Bills are ascending ever so slightly.
Eli
Bills. The Bills are not ascending.
Dan Le Batard
How do you have no say I have. I still have the teeth in. I meant to say. I meant to say Bears. The Bears are that. Ooh, the Bears. Ben Johnson is has that team tracking right. Like I say all the time. There is a case to be made that is important as the quarterback is the guy at the trigger obviously is who you want, but the guy in his ear, the guy calling the plays may be more significant. Who would you rather have Ben Johnson on your staff. We may decide by the end of this season that Jared Goff was less important than Ben Johnson was to what the Lions were doing. And you could make the same case for Brock Purdy or Mac Jones up there with Shanny in San Francisco. And so it goes. Yeah, so the Lions desperately need to to take care business cause they've got a tough road to hoe after this one. Everybody has talked about the Kansas City Chiefs, but there's just no more room for them to fall back. The problem is the Indianapolis Colts also desperately need to win. I think people are not really paying much attention to it or maybe they just don't want this to be a reality. But beware them Jacksonville Jaguars. They're right behind them. And if the Colts lose at KC this weekend, the Jags are going to be hovering right there, as are the Houston Texans. It's conceivable that the that the feel good story of 2025 may evaporate somewhere in Act 3 here. The Steelers desperately need to win this one. I'll say it right now. They're they ain't getting the double digits if they lose to the Bears this week. They have four Heavyweights upcoming with Detroit, Buffalo and two with the Ravens. And then the Dolphins. The Bucks. Yeah, the Dolphins are in some jet. Yeah, they also mix in the Dolphins there. And before you get to the Bucks.
Eli
Though, Aaron Rodgers is going to try and play with a broken wrist.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, I think it's a terrible idea. It's been floated that Mike Tomlin feels like he has to start Aaron Rodgers. If Aaron wants to play. He's not going to say no to him. If that's the case. I don't know what. That sounds insane to me if it's not good for the team or if it's not the best option for the team. And if, you know, Mina Kaim said it, she and I have gone back and forth about this. It's pretty clear if you're watching Aaron Rodgers, a lot of people have a hard time distinguishing the name brand versus the current reality of it. Aaron Rodgers in his prime is not what you're getting in Pittsburgh. Obviously, the people who are watching. He's having trouble moving around and he's prioritizing, not getting smacked. I get it. He understands his own mortality. He's in his 40s, as we've talked about again. Now he has a broken left wrist. He has a ball in his throwing hand. How's he going to defend himself? What he's going to do is he's going to turtle up like Peyton did, like Brady didn't. Like all old men do when. When sizable men are chasing him around on the field. So it's a terrible idea to throw Aaron out there. The real this is not Aaron Rodgers in his prime. Everybody's got to get clear about this in their brains here. I'm not saying that Mason Rudolph is better than Aaron rodgers and in 2011, I'm saying right now with an Aaron Rodgers who doesn't want to get hit and now has a now is going to be further incented to defend himself. You're going to put him out on the field instead of Mason Rudolph?
Stugats
Fair.
Dan Le Batard
Insane.
Stugats
Dave. It's been shocking to see how different Aaron Rodgers is in the pocket when there's pressure coming. It doesn't even have to be intense pressure. He is so scared of getting hit. And I think you're absolutely right. You couple that with a broken wrist, he's going to be extra jumpy. You'd be better off with the backup.
Eli
Put this on the poll, please. At lebatard Show. Do old men turtle up when large men chase them? Yes or no? It is weird to watch all of that. And you before we go any further, though, when you're putting both the Colts and the Chiefs in the category of needing to win the game this weekend, the Colts through 11 weeks, okay, higher points per drive than any team other than the 2007 Patriots, the undefeated one with Randy Moss and Tom Brady, or the 2018 Saints of Drew Brees. This is an offense that is really historically strong. And while Mina Kimes goes on the Foxworth show and says that the Colts are a better team than the Chief, she also can't see Mahomes losing three in a row when the last one is needed to save their season. So where are you on that?
Dan Le Batard
I'm going to take the Chiefs at home. Just, you know, I guess I'm maybe one of the curmudgeons. I like to make fun of that. Until you see it, you don't believe it. I'm going to ride with Mahomes. I think he understands the stakes of where they are now, that they. That they just simply can't afford to drop one. And I'll take Mahomes over Indiana Dimes or whatever his name is. But, you know, the other, the other thing is we saw the Texans are on the rise. And like I say, the Jags have just a cakewalk. The math favors Jacksonville down the stretch. They have a cupcake schedule. Aside from a trip to Denver the rest of the way. They should win out pretty much after this week. The Colts schedule is more fraught. It's as simple as that. So if they can go into Arrowhead and, you know, I was talking about this the day after the super bowl when the Eagles just sort of felt like they just, they just, oh, the emperor has no clothes. I mean, is that in fact the carryover? Is it in fact, was the dam broken emotionally and spiritually and otherwise? They're like, oh, yeah, they're human. They bleed these Chiefs. And it feels kind of like the NFL figured something out that the Chief showed them. Like, oh, yeah, they're. They're just human beings. They're just people like us.
Eli
Yeah, but what do you do? What do you do with the little.
Dan Le Batard
Runny nose, like, Baby Billy? Like, I'm doing cocaine. I'm not doing that.
Eli
What do you do, though, with the fact that our perception on the Chiefs is wrong? Their offense per drive is better than any offense they've had with Mahomes. Like, that's not. I'm not making that up in terms of scoring per drive. They score more touchdowns per drive with this offense than they ever have. They're just losing the close games. This is what's happening with the analysis of the Texans here recently. You understand that the Texans were 05 and 1 score games and now should C.J. stroud be replaced by Davis Mills because they've won. They're 3, 0 in their last three 1 score games. Like, I don't think Davis Mills has that ability. Do you here.
Dan Le Batard
This is the bottom line. And it may be unsatisfying to hear this, but this is a dream come true for Rod and his network partners. They of mediocrity. They call it parody. But that's what we're, what we're looking at here. How do you explain this result last week and then this result this week? Parody, that's how Everybody is pretty close to even Steven here. And I don't want to live in this world. I don't think it's a good world where 15 and 8 are interchangeable. I know Megan Kelly likes that, but I do not. Roger loves it. Hot damn. But that, I mean, that's the bottom line. It is hard to distinguish the top tier teams from the second tier teams. And you know, you assume that the quarterbacks, the superhero quarterbacks are going to provide the difference there and maybe we'll see that in the final third. But you know, we're not off to a great start when you know that going into week 12 in a, in a where a lot of teams gotta have it, it's not must win because of course Roger's not going to cancel any of the games in week 13. So we should stop using the phrase must until it is in fact must win. But these teams gotta have it. The Chiefs are one of them. The Bills, if they wanted to get the number one, I mean if they wanted to get the number one seed by winning the AFC east, they had to have it last night. And Josh Allen, superhero quarterback supreme, couldn't get it done. So that may be a harbinger for teams hanging their hat on. Well, we got a better quarterback than you, folks.
Stugats
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Dan Le Batard
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Eli
The quotes I saw yesterday from Sam Darnold where he was saying that the Seahawks that their turnovers are unacceptable. The Seahawks have 20 turnovers. It's more than any team in the sport. If they can solve that, they are the best team in the sport. Can they solve that?
Dan Le Batard
I think so. But you also have to be careful about this and I don't mean this from a pure entertainment standpoint. You hear a lot about this specific to Jordan Love up in Green Bay and last January you heard a ton of this And I think it's sadly ironic for, for the aforementioned superhero level talents at, at quarterback in the QB league, which is we know Lamar Jackson and Sam Darnold to a lesser degree. Same draft class obviously, but you know, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen and so on. You're the difference maker for us. You can do something on the gridiron that maybe five or six human beings have ever been able to do. Don't do that though, because you might turn the ball over. That's an unsatisfying position that we've reached in our society. I think we're asking guys, I get it. You have to be safe with the ball, ball security and all of that. But also the difference that the high end QBs can theoretically provide. You need to try and take advantage of that instead of approaching every game scared. Does that a lot. Mike Tomlin.
Eli
Yeah, but Mike Tomlin does that. But you know who else does it? Nick Sirianni. Like, what are you doing with the following information? When the Eagles win the Turnover battle, they're 40 and 2. 40 and 2. If you do that over three seasons, you're going to win the super bowl every year.
Dan Le Batard
Because Eli, we. Eli, we talked about this though. Now the Philadelphia Eagles have somehow slipped into the same status of the New England Patriots a decade or 15 years ago, which is, whatever they're doing, pay no mind to it because it's not going to transfer to your team. I don't understand beyond Howie Roseman's involvement, how the Philadelphia Eagles with a quarterback who even his own teammates consider a little bit deficient in a lot of ways, in a lot of fundamental ways as a quarterback. They have a complainer at wide receiver in A.J. brown and Nick Sirianni, where progressive offensive minds are everything in the here and now. Nick Sirianni has been in the super bowl two out of the last three years and he won one of them and both of them were against the Chiefs. Pay no mind to this. You cannot transfer whatever voodoo Howie Roseman and has sprinkled onto Philadelphia. It does not, it will not relate to whatever other situation we're talking about. Now, your Rams, or I should I say Mike Ryan's Bucks playing the Rams in LA are one of those teams. Both the Bucks in LA better have this one. If the Rams drop this one. You're absolutely right. The Seahawks are this quiet team back there and I think on the big stage a week ago, a lot of people were expecting a little bit more out of Sam Darnold. And I get it. If you're pessimistic based on the way he wound down 20, 24. He wasn't great in a big spot. But if they can get that right, they do get the Rams one more time, the division can be theirs and so believe it or not, can be the number one seed.
Stugats
Dave, if you got up right now and you went to brunch at the Ivy, how many of the waiters leave you headshots you are giving off producer pal.
Dan Le Batard
I look here now. Gotta get, gotta get baby Billy's Bible bonkers. Go get God. Get. Go get you on that show. Get some Jesus in your life. Yeah. Do I. I'm not sure exactly who Robert Evans.
Stugats
You're giving off Robert Evans.
Eli
Yeah. You're giving off a Hollywood big shot who has fallen on hard times and B list actors don't want to meet anymore for lunch. Even though he wants to. He wants to meet them.
Dan Le Batard
Losing your lady always hurts. But when you lose her to the biggest star in the world, you feel small.
Eli
Give me some information here before you get out of here. Football America is the podcast. I recommend it strongly. If you want football nourishment combined with entertainment, what is real here? Can you guys look this up for me? Because CD Lamb is saying that he and George Pickens were held out against the Raiders on the first drive because they missed curfew in Las Vegas, which is 10pm but the Internet is saying that CD Lamb was vomiting outside of a casino the night before the game. What's accurate here in terms of what happened with Dallas sitting Pickens and CD Lamb for the first drive against the Raiders? And how useless is that as a punishment sitting guys for the first drive which went, of course, three and out. They were playing three wide receivers. None of them. They're good ones.
Dan Le Batard
I think it's a hysterical punishment. Just one drive. I hope you guys learned your lesson. Now go score a bunch of touchdowns or else we're going to lose this game and be out of the playoff mix. Which they did. That's exactly right, by the way. You know, I don't know if you're paying attention, although we just talked about it four minutes ago. And Aaron Rodgers or Mason Rudolph. Boy, George Pickens could sure be valuable to. To a deficient passing game in Pittsburgh. But Omar Khan, the GM and Mike Tomlin had to get rid of him because he was do. Well, don't you know? He, he, he was a pain in the ass and, and shame the devil. If a pro football team ever had to try to manage a pain in the ass diva at wide receiver, there's no history of any team ever succeeding. Well, wait a minute. The Eagles won the Super bowl with A.J. brown, but that's just a. A one off because. No. Well, Randy Moss had some pretty good years with New England and the Vikings and all of that, but that, that's the extent of it. The Steelers have. Well, they did have Antonio Brown.
Eli
What are we.
Dan Le Batard
Mike Tomlin, such a great manager of all personalities, no matter how wild they get. But they couldn't deal with George Pickens. No, not in a year in which Omar Khan said into a microphone, we're chasing the super bowl this year. Well, it leads me to believe that maybe there are two guys who look very similar walking around the Steelers facility. Both named Omar Khan because the Omar Khan who says that they're trying to win the super bowl and bringing in Darius Slay and Aaron Rodgers and all the other veterans seems to disagree with the Omar Khan who traded away George Pickens in a contract year. Who. George Pickens certainly understands that if I have one good year, generational wealth for my family forever and. But we can't keep him around because he's a bad seed.
Eli
You see, Fair put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is George Pickens an er do? Well, don't you know George Pickens had.
Stugats
A pretty good game for having this weird suspension. Dave, you're a learned man. You know history quite well. Are you familiar with the 1992 possession suspension of Michael Irvin? Or can I tell you in the audience about it? Because Michael Irvin was late for the team charter. Troy Aikman saw him outside the plane window and he's rushing to the plane and Jimmy Johnson says leave without him. Michael Irvin is forced to buy a one way commercial ticket to Detroit. He is benched for the first possession of that game until North Turner gets in. Jimmy Johnson's headsets and said, coach, are killing us. We suck. Harper is doing nothing out there. Michael Irvin pops off for 114 and a tutty.
Dan Le Batard
Let me name drop for you real quick. Michael Irvin. One day I was. We were.
Eli
Look at me, the wind.
Dan Le Batard
One day I was having a catch with hall of Fame wide receiver Michael Irvin down on the gridiron down on the field at Indianapolis, around the combine, I believe. And I threw him a pass in the corner of the end zone and he caught it and he turned around to the empty stands and he took his iconic pose like this. Not unlike baby Billy is fond of doing in front of an audience. And I said to him, man, that feeling must be something indescribable to. To be cheered on that level by 70,000 people for something that you've just done. And he said, man, you know me, I've had a lot of fun in my life. There's nothing like that. And maybe that is the transition that George Pickens and everybody else sort of makes that you have to play on. The fact that, yes, you can go and have your fun in Vegas and throw up if that's fun for you. But the. The one irreplaceable thing is performing under the lights like that. And I think that when you talk about maturity or lack thereof early on in a career, guys start to get that there is no replacement for the shine you get on Sundays, no matter what else you're doing in Vegas or otherwise. And understanding that is everything.
Stugats
A quick answer on cd. Lamb and the Cowboys curfew. He says, I know how to hold my liquor. So it sounds like it wasn't him throwing up because he knows how to hold his liquor. So maybe with somebody else.
Eli
All right, thank you for the update. Damoshek is the at the helm, the skipper of Football America. It is something you should be listening to if you care about football. On the way out. Who is the better producer on Football America? Is it Mike or Gino Fuentes?
Dan Le Batard
Well, I'm going with Gino because he's a man of tradition. Mike Fuentes wants to eat carnitas on Thanksgiving. What are we doing? Are we getting rid of Christmas trees now, too? Oh, the. I like Christmas, but the tree clouds up my house. Get rid of it. Fair.
Eli
That had an undercurrent of racism in it. Hitting him with the.
Stugats
He would do it.
Eli
Hitting him with the carnitas. Yes, the carnitas were unnecessary. I think that's a part of it. That's what he was.
Dan Le Batard
That's what he was.
Stugats
You're the racist.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't make that up. Come on now.
Eli
Wait, wait, wait.
Dan Le Batard
What are you talking about?
Stugats
Go on here somewhere.
Dan Le Batard
Minor penalty.
Stugats
Two minutes accidental racism.
Dan Le Batard
Outrageous.
Stugats
Five minute major. Not listening to that episode.
Eli
See you later, Damage. Shaq.
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugats
At Will Kane's house.
Eli
Put it on the poll at Le Batard show.
Stugats
Good man.
Eli
Are you surprised that Patriot the Carnitas are Bland at Will Kane's house at LeBatard show? It is the is the place that you reach us. I'm sorry, baby. Billy, you're out of here. Matthew Barry will be here shortly. I think we're going to yell at him some about the performances of Justin Herbert and Ashton Jensen.
Dan Le Batard
He might be hiding because he hasn't shown up yet this week.
Eli
Yeah, we will find him in moments. But before we do that, I just want to check in at the end of our week here with Calgary goalie Devin Cooley because he was asked and I think this is the good perspective to have. We talk about do or die games. We talk about must win games. Goalie seems like a hard job. I think they're crazy because it's a hard job. I think all of Them are crazy. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Are all hockey goalies crazy? But I love Devin Cooley's attitude when it comes to how do you stay calm back there when everyone's pelting your face with 105 mile an hour slap shots?
Dan Le Batard
You really have to ground yourself. So I just like, I think I've said this before, but I just go like, nothing matters. Nobody cares. We're all gonna die. And I just like say that over and over and over again. So that way like I don't get too excited because as soon as I.
Stugats
Start getting too excited I'm like, oh.
Dan Le Batard
This, this could be it.
Eli
This could be the win.
Dan Le Batard
Like we're playing really well.
Stugats
I'll start doing stupid stuff and then.
Dan Le Batard
I'll like give up dumb goals because I'm being stupid.
Stugats
And so if I just keep repeating.
Dan Le Batard
Those words over and over again, it just grounds me and I can just really just stay in the moment and not get too excited.
Eli
Nothing matters. We're all gonna die.
Stugats
Can confirm he said that before.
Eli
Can you get for me the We're All Gonna Die song? Because he makes it feel happier and less pressurized than it actually is. But it works as a mantra if you're nervous and you just wanna do something that feels like transcendental meditation where you just get a key phrase or to repeat over and over again. Die. We're all gonna die we're all gonna die.
Stugats
We're all gonna die.
Eli
There's a hurricane in my earthquake and we're all wondering why let's turn on the news and.
Dan Le Batard
Find out how we're gonna die.
Eli
The Texans defense is allowing fewer points than Legion of Boom defense was allowing. The standard in our lifetime is the Ravens defense of Ray Lewis that didn't require any scoring from their offense and won the super bowl with Trent Dilfer. But this Texan defense sacking Josh Allen eight times is an insanity. You can't sack that guy eight times. That guy will move away and move around sacks even if nobody's blocking for him. To see the Bills grounded that way yesterday, eight sacks and three turnovers is the reason they lost that game.
Dan Le Batard
Per opta stats, the Texans are the first team to have two players with two plus sacks against the reigning MVP and another with two plus interceptions against him in the same game for Will Anderson, Daniel Hunter and Kaylin Bullock. And then Josh Allen also. Josh Allen is also the first quarterback to account for six TDS, passing or scoring in one start start and then account for zero in his next since Tommy Kramer in 1986. A lot crazy.
Stugats
A lot of you may think I'm a Miami Hurricane homer right now. Rest assured, in the mid teens, it was way worse. I went into that Alabama game thinking Miami had a chance. I go to the Mercedes, Mercedes Benz stadium field, and I see Derek King warming up and I'm like, all right, season of expectation, here we go. And I see Will Anderson stretching out in front of him, and I knew I was a moron.
Eli
The things that Nick Saban did at Alabama will be hard for anybody else to recreate, even as Georgia tries, even as Clemson has tried, what they did there in dominating the sport and how he got out at exactly the right time, as everything became just exactly the right time, as everything around him became more and more just and equitable. It was an insanity to watch. I'm not totally sure that we appreciated it quite enough.
Stugats
The funniest thing Manny Diaz was telling people before that game, every empire must fall.
Eli
I mean, Lane Kiffin telling us just flatly that every time when he was at Alabama, they walked on the field and they looked at their sideline and they looked at the other sideline. And him and Saban knew that they always had the better players. Makes me circle back around here to the Lane Kiffin conversation. Mike, things have escalated this morning. You are doing some reporting that no one else is doing. I don't know how you feel about Ariel Helwani questioning your credentials to your face by saying, how does he know this? Who are your sources? Why is it that he's reporting this and I'm not hearing this anywhere else? You were interested in this last night, saying that it was beginning to go crazy this morning.
Stugats
Yeah, I was texting you privately this morning.
Eli
But what were you hearing last night versus where it's escalated to this morning where Mississippi is so fed up with this. Go ahead, Mississippi. I dare you. Go ahead and fire him. I dare you to fire him, Mississippi. See how that goes for you.
Stugats
I love Lane Kiffin. He is my favorite personality in college football. He is consistent man. He doesn't give an F. He doesn't like. Lane's got to do what's right for Lane right now. And I think over the course of 20 years since the last time he did this, he's kind of earned that. I think in the heart of hearts of Ole Miss supporters, they'd admit to that. But this is really, really funny what's going on, because Florida for two weeks has been back channeling for longer than that. This honestly dates back a year With Lane Kiff in this pursuit, really? And Florida has felt really confident this entire time. They're starting to get nervous. They. Last night they had a deadline for Lane Kiffin and there was no way in hell Lane Kiffin was going to adhere to that deadline. Now, as I've said earlier, I do think we're reaching critical mass here. I don't understand how Ole Miss is on a buy and they're aided by that, but they are furious and I understand where they're coming from right now. This is as fascinating as this can get. I don't see how this story evolves. Elaine has everything that he wants right now. The numbers. He's going to be the highest paid coach in the sport. He's going to have a record setting nil package. He's going to get to do whatever he wants with his staff. This is up to Lane and his family. And don't. Do not gloss over the family aspect of this.
Eli
No, I would say the fact that his family was being sent out to these places on recognizance missions as advanced scouts and it was being reported that his family was in places, I would say that the only thing that matters here, because the jobs are going to end up being similar and he can ask for whatever he wants, he can pit them against each other, he can keep asking for things. But I would assume that the deciding factor will end up being where does your family want to be? Because Dad's not going to be home a whole lot. Like if you, you better be in a city. Dad took this job and took everyone to Mississippi, a place that the family doesn't want to be. Because we've been all about dad for a really long time now. The family gets to cash in on whatever it want because the jobs are going to end up being very similar and they're going to be a bounty of riches unlike anything that Lane Kiffin has ever had available to him before.
Stugats
You mentioned the daughter dating the star linebacker over there. I mentioned Lane's son is favoring lsu. And that's what's complicated this whole thing. From a family standpoint, that might be the better play. We know Lane Kiffin loves Florida. Ever since he left Boca, he's been trying to get back. He was on our show like, the water's brown over here. We knew this day would come. I didn't think it would come at the point where some of the greatest jobs are all open simultaneously. I know he's been going down this road with Florida for such a long time. And this felt like it was a near certainty. But that LSU job, Dan, I think is better and, and not by a little. And if Lane wants to get to where he wants to get to, which is also not recruiting a hell of a lot, that, that's, that's a huge part of this. And both schools will acknowledge that. I think LSU is a play here. And then it would be fascinating to see what happens with Florida if they get spurned here because there's some crazy names there that I'm not ready to report. But Florida will be desperate.
Eli
I'm willing to say not absolutely, but pretty close to absolutely, that if Lane picks lsu, it's because of his family and if you pick the state of Florida, it's because of himself. And so he will have to make a decision on what it is that his kids want versus what it is that he wants because he can have success in either place. Circling back around, though, to what it is that happened last night in football, here are the numbers of The Texans defense versus Josh Allen. Two interceptions, one fumble forced and recovered. So that's three total takeaways. Eight sacks for 70 yards. That's the most for any QB since Zach Wilson in 2021. Zach Wilson, incompetent. Zach Wilson famously incompetent, running around, holding the ball too long. So eight sacks for 70 yards. That's the most by any quarterback. That's a guy that doesn't get sacked like that because if he's so athletic. 11 QB hits, 12 QB pressures. They were. The Bills were 02 in the red zone and Josh Allen was pressured on 33% of his drop backs.
Stugats
This is the full Josh Allen experience.
Dan Le Batard
From week to week, right? You have the week where he is.
Stugats
Is he looks like just the best.
Dan Le Batard
Player on the planet, right?
Stugats
Where he's got three rushing touchdowns, three throwing touchdowns. And it's like, oh, this guy's kind of unstoppable. And then the next week he plays a defense that's actually really good and then reverts Back to like 2020 Josh Allen, where it's like, why, why is he doing this? He's throwing the ball behind his back kind of thing where it's like you, this is the full gambit of what's going on with Josh Allen. I thought this was fixed, Dan. I thought this was like, all right.
Dan Le Batard
He'S past all those weird things he.
Stugats
Used to do and it's like he's reverting back.
Eli
He won the MVP because he became more risk aver and they, they coached the turnovers after him. This year they beaten the good quarterbacks. The Bills have beaten Mahomes, they've beaten Lamar Jackson.
Dan Le Batard
Who have they lost to? That's.
Eli
Yeah, they've lost to Pennix, they've lost to Davis Mills, They've lost to Tua.
Stugats
Like, that's weird.
Eli
They've beaten the good quarterback.
Stugats
Slightly hurt that you didn't include Baker and the good quarterbacks.
Eli
Well, I was getting there. Yeah. He was the third of the good quarterbacks. The. The thing that's happening though, and this one, this one's funny to me, man. He's got more interceptions, Josh Allen does in the last six quarters than Jalen Hurts has in 10 games.
Stugats
But that's aggressiveness, right? That's you trying to go out there and make something happen out of nothing. Where Jalen hurts kind of has an idea of where he's going to go. He's going to throw to A.J. brown a couple times, and that's kind of it. Because their offense is run differently.
Eli
It's a funny thing to happen though, where AJ Brown with the Eagles is so frustrated that he's scoffing at questions. So they ask A.J. brown, they're like, are you a lesser player? And his response is, I guess Saquon's a lesser player too, right? Like, that team is frustrated because they'd rather be playing like Josh Allen's team if. If I gave A.J. brown the option, hey, would you like to go 40 and 2 in the games where you beat teams because you have fewer turnovers than them, or do you want to be. Be 10 catches for 140 yards and you'll take seven losses in there? Because whatever. It's a funny tension to have. They didn't evidently coach the risk out of Josh Allen. What they did was surround him with players who made all of it a little more stable so he can trust the offense and not feel constipated about how it is that he was playing football. But when Dalton Kincaid's out. Your running back situation was good all year, but in these recent games that you've lost, you're not getting what you need from Cook. Like, I was confused by what happened with Cook against the Dolphins, and the last time they lost, it was the same thing where they're not getting anything from Cook. But last night they ran the ball. Last night they, they. Shakir wasn't one catch for nine yards that they were throwing the ball to Shakir. So last night you got beat because your quarterback got sacked eight times because Shakir fumbled him, because your quarterback threw.
Stugats
Two Interceptions, but also you're throwing to Khalil Shakir, right?
Dan Le Batard
Like that's your.
Stugats
Your first round pick. Keon Coleman is the second.
Dan Le Batard
Second time for a healthy scratch. And you got a guy named Shavers out there running routes.
Stugats
It's like, who the hell is this guy?
Eli
Well, he caught the first touchdown.
Stugats
Yeah, but he sucks. Watch that guy all year. I know he caught that touchdown. He sucks.
Dan Le Batard
That's true. He makes good perns.
Eli
Okay, wait a minute.
Stugats
He sucks.
Dan Le Batard
His name is Shavers. Damn. Where'd this guy come from?
Eli
Look, you say he sucks, but I saw Gabe Davis suck the ghost.
Dan Le Batard
He sucks.
Stugats
I know Shakir is good. Shakir's.
Dan Le Batard
That's national champion Davis. Dan, everyone sucks. Put some respect on his name.
Stugats
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Episode: Hour 1: Things Gon' Get Real Now (feat. Dave Dameshek)
Date: November 21, 2025
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This lively first hour features Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Eli, and guest Dave Dameshek. With their trademark irreverence, the crew explores the NFL playoff race as Thanksgiving approaches—a traditional turning point in the season—and digs into the chaos and “parity” that defines 2025 football. Alongside sharp insights into the Lions, Bills, Colts, Chiefs, and more, the hosts weave in character bits, pop-culture references, and plenty of satire. The episode also touches on college football rumors (the Lane Kiffin saga), discipline controversies, and the existential wisdom (or wit) of a hockey goalie.
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