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Dan Le Batard
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Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
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Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
Oh, yeah.
David Sampson
So lots of stuff is happening in the NBA as we tape right now. We'll keep interrupting what I think are thoughtful points with meaningless updates about Khris Middleton as we proceed here. Guess another bit of news, though, maybe. David, you've already covered. Come on.
Chris Cody
You said you have news. That's for you.
Billy Corben
Oh, there's another trade.
David Sampson
The NFL has a deal with Miami's own Pat Riley for the use of 3 Pete on merchandise if the Chiefs win. Which is. Look, I think people probably know by now that Pat Riley invented the term, or at the very least got the intellectual rights to the term, but I imagine this tickled you, David.
Billy Corben
I don't think he should have gotten it. I think 3 Pete is used too often by too much that to give it all to one person. I think it was a mistake by the US Patent and Trademark Office, but he has it.
Chris Cody
Do you think there's. There's a former, like, assistant coach of Pat Riley at the time who's like, that's bullshit, man. I told him that.
Billy Corben
And now they get nothing.
Chris Cody
And I don't.
Billy Corben
I'm not on that now. But Pat did say, thank God he gives most of the money to charity. That's always my favorite most. And we can all define what that means. But the NFL had to do a deal with him because they. I want the NFL to not use it. Just say back to back to back.
David Sampson
Yeah, Griff stuff.
Mike Ryan
Well, David, let me ask you a question. Yeah, that's a good, good call from the commercial.
David Sampson
Things kids knew in the 90s, the.
Chris Cody
Oh, that I know, that I know. I don't remember the line back to back to back, but I do remember that back to back to back.
Mike Ryan
National champions, champions, Little League. Yeah. David, you are older than everyone here today, so I'm not old enough to remember. Was 3 Pete a thing that was said before, like in the early 80s or.
Billy Corben
I mean, it was 88. It was after.
Mike Ryan
I know when he coined it because they thought they were going to go for three in a row and then they lost to the Pistons. But I'm just saying, did he actually invent the term or was that already a term that was being used? And then he was just.
Billy Corben
First he used it on stage. So my recollection and this is back maybe before many of you were born, I believe when they had won their back to back, he was on stage the way you do after a parade. And he then said, I'm sure we can find this out. He said, how about a three peat? Remember when LeBron went to the. Was it LeBron in the Heat? Let's do four, let's do five, not one.
Chris Cody
You nailed it. That's exactly what it was.
Billy Corben
And how many did he go to?
Chris Cody
It was not, not five, not six.
Amin Elhassan
He went four in a row and then left.
Billy Corben
He went, no, I know.
Chris Cody
It was not five, not six, not seven.
Billy Corben
And he ended up being at four finals with two titles. I think it was a lot of premature exuberance by Riley at that time, but it's been paying off ever since. I mean, and we give into it. Companies give into it who are experiencing three piece. If you're a regular company.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
David Sampson
What company. What regular company is experiencing a three.
Billy Corben
Peat metal arc with the best football podcast?
Mike Ryan
Yeah. We're going to have to pay Pat Riley if. If Stugot wins again.
Amin Elhassan
Right?
Billy Corben
You had. You can't say, hey, it's a three peat.
Amin Elhassan
We already built him a statue, put.
Mike Ryan
It on top of the elser.
Billy Corben
Not good enough.
Chris Cody
Can you just spell Pete differently?
Mike Ryan
You know what, it's funny, I saw the patent. They've. There's so many different iterations. Like any spelling you can think of.
Chris Cody
Like, I'm going to get it. If I see three people, like, I'm going to be like, yep, got It.
Billy Corben
P, E, T, Rodney Pete with an E at the end.
Chris Cody
Sure, whatever. However you want to.
Billy Corben
However you want to repeat. I just think it's funny that Kansas City, no one's ever done it. That's what I'm excited about for the Super Bowl.
David Sampson
You're rooting for the Chiefs.
Billy Corben
100%. I find it hard to believe that people don't want to see a three peat because I've never seen that in my life in the Super Bowl.
Mike Ryan
But, David, this is why leagues like dynasties, because it forces everyone to choose a side. Either I want to see history or I'm sick of them. I can't wait for them to lose. That's why the Yankees are great. That's why the Lakers and the Celtics are great. That's why right now the Chiefs are great. Right. The idea that something that makes everybody watching, even the Casuals, feel a need to either say, oh, I want to see Taylor's boyfriend win another one, or say something like, oh, I hate that Taylor Swift. Like, it's so stupid. And yet it is the engagement that the league desires.
Billy Corben
Do you like how Kelsey came out yesterday and said, we're not going to go through this again. I'm not retiring. I was one of the guys who thought Taylor would make him retire because I thought she said, I really don't want to date someone whose head's getting bashed in. I'd like him to be able to put three sentences together to make a paragraph. So I thought he'd win it and then walk. But apparently not only is he not doing that, he's already said, win or lose on Sunday. I'm back.
Mike Ryan
But David, you have them having deep intellectual conversations long into the night.
Billy Corben
I listen. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt. I don't yuck on other people's relationships.
Mike Ryan
It's not about their relationship. I just. I don't know how much compelling conversation.
Billy Corben
They're just grunting.
Mike Ryan
I mean, hell, yeah, at least 50%.
Billy Corben
I have them having real conversation about life, about future, about.
Chris Cody
I'm picturing them, like, embracing, just, like, cuddling in the bed. And she's like, rubbing his head. Like, is your head hurt? You have a headache? You don't need this.
Billy Corben
You guys are funny. I think they're just as normal as we are.
Chris Cody
I do that with my wife all the time. How's your head, honey? Come here.
Billy Corben
You rub her head and say, how's your head?
Chris Cody
She has a headache.
David Sampson
You get the hot water bottle and you lay it gently.
Chris Cody
My wife does this thing when she gets a headache where she puts the sleeping mask on because she doesn't want to open her eyes. And I take like a nice wet cloth and I just drip it on her forehead.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. Does she have the fun cte?
Chris Cody
I don't know.
Billy Corben
That seems like an oxymoron.
Mike Ryan
Well, that was Andrew Hawkins. Let us know this.
Billy Corben
There's a function.
Mike Ryan
Function?
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, he gave approval on Dan's.
Mike Ryan
Oh, Dan was the one that came up with function.
Amin Elhassan
Of course he did.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Billy Corben
I don't love that.
Amin Elhassan
What do you love?
Billy Corben
I love a lot. I love a lot of things and a lot of people. I don't love fun and CT in the same sense.
Mike Ryan
You malfunctioned trying to say the word love.
Billy Corben
I love. I had my wires crossed.
David Sampson
Do we want to play the game? Is that a perfect segue for the host to step in and remind everybody we have a game that Chris Cody, executive producer, has prepared?
Chris Cody
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to play Is He Human?
Amin Elhassan
With David, it's Samson.
Mike Ryan
Silly me. I thought this was the funeral game.
Billy Corben
We played it yesterday with Diane and it was a disaster.
Mike Ryan
What they're gonna figure out is for everyone else, the question we're looking for is the one that they'll say no to. For you, it's the one that they'll say yes to.
Billy Corben
It's not a lot.
Mike Ryan
It seemed like you say no to almost everything.
David Sampson
The funeral game is my favorite game to listen to and my least favorite game to play. But that is David Sampson, the star of the hit game show Is He Human? Chris, how does the game work?
Chris Cody
All right, David, we have questions for you. Life scenarios, and you're gonna tell and you're gonna answer it. And then we will decide as judges if you're a human or not.
Billy Corben
Bring it.
Chris Cody
First one, you're at lunch with a friend. Your dish arrives before their does. Theirs does. Goddammit. Are you starting to eat before your dish arrives?
Billy Corben
If it's cold, no. If it's hot, yes.
Chris Cody
All right, I think that's a human. That's a human response.
David Sampson
Good job, David. I mean, begrudgingly. Begrudgingly.
Billy Corben
I'm gonna be honest.
Chris Cody
Moving on. I'm gonna read this one a little better. You're on a four mile hike with a friend and they forgot their water bottle, but you have yours. Do you offer them any water?
Billy Corben
This is a great one. This has happened. I will pour some water into the mouth of someone I'm with and I will. Cause I won't give them the bottle to drink from, even when they Say, I won't put to it. It turns out when they try, they end up touching lip to top. So I will pour just a little bit lip to top. You say, I don't like lip to top.
Chris Cody
Judges.
Billy Corben
I think that's very human.
Mike Ryan
The part where you'd say, I'll pour it into your mouth. I think you'd rather. I'd rather you say no.
Chris Cody
Well, you. How about you hand me your water bottle and I do that? I'm like, no.
David Sampson
This is the move. The move is you say, I'm not feeling that well. Do you want me to just, like, pour it in so you don't get whatever I have?
Chris Cody
I was sick last week.
David Sampson
Exactly.
Billy Corben
No.
David Sampson
Or you do what David says, which is ask the person to genuflect before you so he may pour water into your mouth from a height.
Billy Corben
Now that is funny, because when I'm shorter than the person I'm with, it does. I'm not gonna jump on a rock to do it.
Mike Ryan
So they have to kneel.
Billy Corben
They've gotta kneel.
Mike Ryan
Wow. So it's like a. I'm not going.
Billy Corben
To make the effort.
Mike Ryan
It's like a fountain in, like, in a square in Italy. Right. Just a tall man doing this. And another. A small, like, little cherubic angel pouring.
Billy Corben
Not cherubic, but thank you. 65 is not cherubic.
David Sampson
That's a. That's a no, I think on Izzy. Human. I'm just going to say no on that.
Chris Cody
So we're split so far, one and one. All right, next question. Your significant other plans a dinner with a couple you find extremely boring. What do you do?
Billy Corben
I don't go judges.
David Sampson
The human thing is to go.
Chris Cody
I feel like Amin agrees with him a little bit.
Mike Ryan
Oh, man. I'm with David. I find a way out.
David Sampson
What are you saying? What excuse are you using?
Billy Corben
Oh, man, I don't want to go. I'm learning in my post divorce life, honesty has taken over as a real possibility in every situation where previously it was not even contemplated. And now I try for the honesty. I don't want to go out with those people.
Mike Ryan
I've learned that the exact opposite. Stop being honest. Just tell them the white lie that they want to hear.
Chris Cody
Blame work. Be like, I gotta watch this game like in sports. It's a weird joke.
Mike Ryan
Oh, my stomach. Oh, I gotta go to the bathroom again.
David Sampson
I now realize as the one still married person at the table, I just go, same.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I think the married person lesson is sometimes you do things you don't want to do. And sometimes they do things they don't want to do.
Chris Cody
You hear that, Dan?
Dan Le Batard
And you find the compromise.
Billy Corben
I do not like doing things I don't want to do.
Dan Le Batard
Then, yeah, I could see why it didn't work out.
Billy Corben
No, I. No, because I did so many things I didn't want to do for 29 years. And I eventually said, I don't want to do that.
Mike Ryan
It didn't work.
Dan Le Batard
Exactly.
Billy Corben
It was a great run. But wait a minute. Are you gonna say that 29 years is not a good run?
David Sampson
This is the perfect music for this conversation.
Billy Corben
It's a hell of a run.
Dan Le Batard
I think it depends on how the run was. I didn't experience the run, so I can't say.
Mike Ryan
David, let me ask you a question.
Billy Corben
Three great kids.
Mike Ryan
Dave, let me ask you a question. Because this happens to a lot of athletes, right, that they're married. And part of what keeps the marriage together is half the time I'm not here. And then when they retire, a lot of the conflict happens. Like they're.
David Sampson
They gotta go to these boring ass dinners.
Billy Corben
It's the empty nest thing.
Mike Ryan
Yep.
Billy Corben
You have your kids to deal with, and all of a sudden that's the time. Majority of divorce is either after the year or after the empty nest. That's the majority. The itch is the seven. That's different. Because when the kids disappear, you realize, oh, my God, now what are we gonn.
Mike Ryan
All of our interactions are one on one now. There's no buffer.
David Sampson
I feel like I'm at divorce counseling right now. As in, people are saying, you should probably get divorced. What's next?
Chris Cody
Moving on. David, you get asked to watch a close friend's two kids for three hours. What do you say?
Billy Corben
Crazy.
Chris Cody
They're in a jam, they're in a pickle.
Billy Corben
Doesn't matter.
Chris Cody
Close friends.
Billy Corben
How old are the kids?
Mike Ryan
That's a big one.
Chris Cody
Four and eight.
Billy Corben
No, I have watched a kid.
Chris Cody
They're potty trained.
Billy Corben
No, no. But then I'm a no. I've watched a kid who's under three months old because I can do that very well. I'm really good at changing diapers, and they don't move. So I can go about. Go about my day. And when you put a kid who can't crawl or turn over, you can just keep them where they are and you can go away for a minute and come back and they haven't moved. Once they start to crawl or roll over, you have to watch them. You can't even shower.
Chris Cody
All right? Not a human. Moving on.
Billy Corben
That Is totally, totally human.
Mike Ryan
Two words. Disney. Just turn it on and walk away. They're fine.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not watching those kids.
Billy Corben
Thank you.
Chris Cody
Moving on. David, when's the last time you ate at a buffet of any kind?
David Sampson
Good question.
Mike Ryan
Terrible question. When's the last time any of us have eaten at a buffet?
Dan Le Batard
All the time.
David Sampson
Hotel breakfast.
Chris Cody
Come on.
Dan Le Batard
Constantly.
David Sampson
Love a buffet.
Mike Ryan
I guess that counts.
Billy Corben
I will tell you exactly when there are great breakfast buffets in Tokyo hotels. Like, really, really good. If you've ever been. And you can go there, and it comes with the room.
David Sampson
But did we outlast the music?
Billy Corben
You have to be in Japan.
David Sampson
Thank you.
Billy Corben
Because they're so clean.
Mike Ryan
That's how it works.
Billy Corben
And there's no.
David Sampson
You will only eat at a buffet in a country with zero visible unhoused people. Oh.
Billy Corben
It's not about homeless people. It's about garbage. It's about cleanliness. It's about shaking.
David Sampson
You're eating at the cleanest city in.
Dan Le Batard
I always think of that one cult in Oregon that put listeria in the salad bar. And, like, what if some freak accident happened and someone just, like, put a little drip of some bacteria in the salad bar? It happened one time, and I saw it in a NETFLIX documentary.
Mike Ryan
Are you anti buffet?
Dan Le Batard
No, I'm pro. I eat buffets all the time, but I feel like I'm rolling the dice every time.
Billy Corben
Are you anti Kool Aid? Because one time the Kool Aid was such that it poisoned all those.
Dan Le Batard
No, but I do think about it.
Mike Ryan
I do say every time you have some Kool Aid.
Dan Le Batard
When I think about Kool Aid, I'm.
Mike Ryan
Like, about the Jonestown.
David Sampson
Yeah. Terrible thing I put on my Nikes. Anything about the Hale Bop comment?
Chris Cody
So, judges on that one, what do we think?
David Sampson
I think we're realizing we're kind of more like David Sampson than we all realize.
Dan Le Batard
Also, if you don't like kids and germs, you're halfway there, right? Yes.
Chris Cody
Final one, final question.
Billy Corben
Simple rules.
Chris Cody
David, you get invited to go to the zoo with friends. Do you go?
Billy Corben
No.
Chris Cody
Not a human who doesn't love a zoo?
David Sampson
I love the zoo.
Mike Ryan
You just don't like the zoo. Is that the.
Billy Corben
Ever since I went on a safari, I've never been back to a zoo.
Mike Ryan
Oh, it's just. It's. It's beneath you now.
Billy Corben
Not. Not well, it's like.
Mike Ryan
It's just. You've experienced the Jews.
Billy Corben
I also don't want to be out of control of a situation where I don't go anywhere with other. With friends. And their family, because I don't want to be trapped. Or if I do, I take my own car. I always have to have an exit strategy from any position I'm in. So the answer is, I wouldn't go to a zoo where, like, in one car where. Oh, my God. Are you done with the monkey exhibit?
Chris Cody
I'm just picturing David on one of those, like, six people bike things at the zoo where they're all, like, pedaling around. Come on, guys, let's go see the hippo.
Billy Corben
I did a lot of that with my kids. Chris, I don't believe you. Yeah, no, I did.
Mike Ryan
They have adult nights at the zoo now where they serve, like, wine and stuff, and you can you go with your friends, and it's like a. It's a cool night out. That's not a bar or something. It's fun.
David Sampson
It reminds me we should get Ron on the show to talk about those vultures.
Billy Corben
Speaking of those, have you stayed in a room at the Elsa where they come to your balcony?
Chris Cody
Turkey vulture.
Mike Ryan
I posted on Instagram the night before I fell and tipped my tooth. There was a massive vulture on the balcony, and it just kept staring at me.
Dan Le Batard
Should have known.
Chris Cody
Ooh, guys, spitball. Spitball idea here. No bad ideas. What do you think? Tomorrow we set up a zoom camera on one of the balconies. We put a little food out there. We just keep a live feed of it going throughout the whole show, and.
Billy Corben
We check in, go up to the top floor of the house so you don't need food. They will come. I switched rooms. They thought, oh, David Sampson, you come here a lot. Let's put you on the top floor like a vip. I walked in the room, I looked at all of the white. It's really urine. It's not bird poop. I think it's actually urine.
Chris Cody
Let's really find out what this is. Go ahead.
Billy Corben
But those birds come to your balcony. You can't go on your balcony.
Chris Cody
I say we do a science experiment. We put food out there for an hour.
David Sampson
I'm with Chris.
Chris Cody
See what happens. And then maybe we put Ethan out there for an hour.
David Sampson
I want Ethan holding a turkey vulture on his arm like a falconer.
Mike Ryan
You've got Ethan holding the vulture. I've got the vulture grabbing little Ethan and flying off with him.
Chris Cody
Talk about the numbies that would get.
Billy Corben
Just all about the little that would get wrongful death.
Mike Ryan
Good.
David Sampson
Executive producer.
Dan Le Batard
Take Gabe. Not Gabe.
David Sampson
Who in the office is most likely to be carried away by a vulture? I had David. I had Samson Got to be David.
Chris Cody
David Sampson.
Billy Corben
I would assume I'm amongst the lightest.
Mike Ryan
I think Ethan's lighter than you.
Billy Corben
I. I can bring Ethan in here.
Mike Ryan
Either Ethan's. He might be a little taller.
David Sampson
All right, when Ron is on the phone, we're going to bring Ethan in here. We're going to ask Ron which of these two is most likely to be carried away by a Turkey vulture.
Chris Cody
He's 140. Ethan.
Billy Corben
I got him.
Mike Ryan
Really?
Billy Corben
137.
David Sampson
Save this debate. Save this debate. I think the game is done.
Billy Corben
Probably after last night. Maybe139.
David Sampson
A lot of stone crab.
Chris Cody
We're gonna go for the visual bit of them standing next to each other and Ron saying, which one would get.
David Sampson
Bigger than each other?
Billy Corben
How tall is he?
Chris Cody
I don't know.
Billy Corben
More than 65 inches.
Chris Cody
You do this inches thing. Five, six.
Billy Corben
He's 66 inches. He's got me. That's it.
Mike Ryan
Just to sit there and look at, like, a harbinger of doom staring at me in the eye. And then I said, you know what? Maybe I'll just walk away and then it'll fly off because it's just taking. Nope. Sucker was out there for, like, 20 minutes.
Billy Corben
And you didn't switch rooms?
Mike Ryan
No, I just didn't open. Like, someone said, why don't you, like, go out there and kind of shoo it away? I'm like, I'm not opening the door. What if it gets inside?
Billy Corben
You die.
David Sampson
And the very next day, I mean.
Mike Ryan
And then the next day I fell and chipped my tooth.
David Sampson
That turkey stole your tooth?
Mike Ryan
It was the turkey saw with a trench coat and a hat on, folks.
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Jerbear
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Mike Ryan
Oh, man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long. Breakfast flan stewgats. Have you never heard the breakfast flan?
Jerbear
So hit me with it.
Mike Ryan
Okay. I wish I had some breakfast fun. Breakfast fun. Where can I find a breakfast like that? This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
Billy Corben
I have an issue with buildings where there's supposed to be some sort of correlation between what floor you're on. And how sort of unique and how upscale it is to be on a high floor.
David Sampson
Because they get more expensive as you go higher. In New York, at least should be the opposite.
Chris Cody
Here I hate. I've stayed at this hotel. I don't want to be on the freaking 40th floor. It's terrifying to be on the balcony.
Billy Corben
So in theory, it's supposed to be more expensive. And that's what they do. And I've always viewed it the opposite that I get scared up high and I ask for the lower floors.
Dan Le Batard
Also, you have to wait so long for the elevator.
Chris Cody
Let me get that. 17.
Mike Ryan
You know what I love? I love the idea that both of you two, it's like. Oh, being up there, it's too scary on the balcony. You go up to the room and it's like, should I stay in my room? Nope. Gotta see what this balcony's about. Oh, my God. That's a far way down there. Oh, whoa. You can just not go on the balcony. You just stay in the room.
Billy Corben
Do you picture yourself falling?
Chris Cody
Of course.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
Chris Cody
I have to look down like.
David Sampson
Yeah, you gotta get. You feel those jelly legs.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Billy Corben
It's totally normal. It's meant to make me feel abnormal that I have these feelings. But I do get the jelly legs. I do have the vision.
Mike Ryan
Who.
David Sampson
When you say it, is meant to. That's a very third person way of describing what something else is doing to you. Who is doing that to you?
Billy Corben
Well, you guys are. You guys. That's what you do. That's your bit. Are you. Whenever I'm on any balcony, I keep my hand on the. On the door again. I don't know if I'm the only one, because. So I'm.
David Sampson
The vulture might come.
Billy Corben
No, it's just. So I'm grounded.
Amin Elhassan
I have a massive fear of heights too, so I relate to this. But I don't know that I go as far as holding on to the door the entire time. But that also depends on the size of the balcony.
Billy Corben
The balconies at the ulcer are not big.
Mike Ryan
No, they are. They're very narrow.
Billy Corben
There's no room for furniture. So I feel as though you have to have your hand on the door.
Mike Ryan
I mean, I'm like, I don't. These things don't impact me. I think like other people.
Amin Elhassan
That's because you know how you're gonna die.
David Sampson
I was gonna say this all goes back to Amin having a dream about his own death. So it's hard to really prophecy compare human experiences.
Billy Corben
What was it? I'm sorry.
David Sampson
You don't know this.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I'm gonna die in a car crash. Yeah. So. But that means anytime I'm on a plane or anything like that, everyone's get freaking out. I'm like. I always say, don't worry. This is not how I go out. I reassure everybody.
Chris Cody
And when you get into a car, do you say, holy shit, dude?
Mike Ryan
I was thinking about that, literally, on the Uber ride from the. From the airport today, I was like, strangely, I'm less terrified when someone else is driving. When I'm driving, I think about it constantly.
David Sampson
Because in the dream, you're the driver.
Mike Ryan
Am I the driver? I don't know. I can't remember.
Billy Corben
That's an important note.
Mike Ryan
But I. I know I feel a great amount of fear when I'm driving.
Chris Cody
Have you noticed friends that are like, oh, I'm gonna catch the next one. Like, when you're like, I'm gonna go get an Uber, and they're like, I'm gonna. I'll meet you there. I gotta go upstairs and go to the bathroom first. You go ahead. By the way, we have a video. An update from Stugot. Stugots and Billy are at Radio Row. He's talking to Cam Jordan.
David Sampson
Oh, we have an update from New Orleans.
Chris Cody
I'm being told the Old Spice guy. I. I don't know what's in this, but it's apparently a funny video. Here you go.
Mike Ryan
Listen to me. I love you. I appreciate you. I know. I love you. I love you.
I
You.
Mike Ryan
I love you, man. Okay. I was feeling like we're not spreading enough love in the world right now, and I want to spend my week telling people that I love them.
Billy Corben
So.
Chris Cody
I love both of you guys.
Mike Ryan
And I love you. Thank you. Thank you very much.
Amin Elhassan
We're going to be very intrepid about.
Mike Ryan
The usage of love.
Stugotz
I think he's over.
Amin Elhassan
I deeply enjoy your company.
Mike Ryan
Anything.
Chris Cody
I love you.
Mike Ryan
I don't care what you feel. I don't care how you feel about me.
Billy Corben
Sir.
Mike Ryan
Hell, yeah.
Chris Cody
Let me just say this to you down there.
Billy Corben
Yes.
Chris Cody
I love you.
Billy Corben
Hey, I love you, Old Spice.
Mike Ryan
You say to me.
Chris Cody
It's catching hold. I love you, too.
Amin Elhassan
I have deep affection for everybody.
Mike Ryan
But we'll retain my love for the ones that I truly love.
Chris Cody
Cam.
Mike Ryan
Damn it.
Chris Cody
The love is growing.
Mike Ryan
The fact that I'm carrying you with me shows you how much I care for you. The love.
Billy Corben
A lot of love.
Chris Cody
A lot of love at Radio Row.
Billy Corben
I don't like Billy leaning in the way he was leaning in. I thought that he was critically ill. We went through this yesterday. Now he's on air doing his job, which is great. Having recovered from.
David Sampson
Wait, what are you mad at?
Billy Corben
That video appeared to me as though Billy was. Instead of facing out, he was facing toward the guest while talking. I assume you all noticed that right there.
David Sampson
Yeah.
Billy Corben
When you are sick with norovirus or whatever it is that he had, don't you think you ought to be speaking straight ahead?
Chris Cody
Yeah, but he. First of all, the idea that germs are like up, can't make a left. I'm just gonna go straight here if he talks. But David, Billy missed the whole day and got medication like he was told by a doctor. You take this 24 hour later, you won't be contagious. So that's what.
Billy Corben
What Kind of what? Dr. Seuss? Antibiotics take 20. Take 48 to 72 hours to kick in.
Chris Cody
Okay.
David Sampson
I'd like to not be sued by the Old Spice guy, so let's maybe just keep. Keep our theories about.
Billy Corben
For non disclosure of norovirus. I'm just saying that I don't think.
David Sampson
Any of us have a firm grasp on what's currently legal.
Billy Corben
And is Billy wearing the same shirt as he is behind us?
Mike Ryan
He sure is.
Billy Corben
Can we go back to that video?
Mike Ryan
That's. Yep.
Billy Corben
Is there a chance that that's the shirt that I'm looking at? No. It looks the same, it feels the same, but I don't think it looks.
David Sampson
Like a shirt out of the collection of that guy whose shirt you were wearing.
Dan Le Batard
Flashes.
Chris Cody
Is that Kyle Brandt behind Billy?
Mike Ryan
The more intricate the slope, the more expensive the shirt.
David Sampson
What was the name of the guy who designed that shirt?
Billy Corben
Robert Graham.
David Sampson
Robert Graham.
Billy Corben
No one's ever heard of Robert Graham.
Dan Le Batard
Tim Robinson.
Billy Corben
I'm a little shocked.
Chris Cody
RG1.
Billy Corben
Without his own show.
Mike Ryan
I'm glad that the Old Spice guy stayed in character, which I guess that's what he's paid to do.
Chris Cody
I love you. Thank you.
David Sampson
The Old Spice guy was seeing Jake from State Farm. He got cops blow up and was like, I need a.
Billy Corben
Did you notice that?
David Sampson
What?
Billy Corben
Spice guy.
Mike Ryan
What happened again?
Billy Corben
I noticed it on the video. Did anyone not see it?
Mike Ryan
He got. What?
Chris Cody
Go on.
Billy Corben
Do you know what cupped is?
David Sampson
Oh, he. I thought you said something circles on him. He had circles on him. I didn't. I didn't notice that.
Billy Corben
So I. I don't. I guess we should go back to him and. Maybe I saw it wrong, but I.
Dan Le Batard
I thought you were saying a different one.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, we all. Something else.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's cupped With a P is what you said. I. I heard a different.
David Sampson
We all heard different kinds of prize.
Billy Corben
I think that's a cup mark.
Chris Cody
I think that's a shadow of his microphone.
David Sampson
Yeah, that's the shadow of a microphone.
Billy Corben
Thank you.
Chris Cody
You're welcome.
Billy Corben
It's very circular.
Dan Le Batard
Man's whole gig is having flawless skin and being muscular.
Billy Corben
Right. Like, why would he cup himself? Prior to super bowl radio, he is.
David Sampson
Shirtless for the audio audience. I guess.
Dan Le Batard
This is a very radio rowy clip. There's a product placement. There's a. What is that? There's a train going over us right now.
David Sampson
I took my headphones off to be like, is that. Is there a plane? I.
Billy Corben
New Yorker. That's not a great sound.
David Sampson
Look.
Billy Corben
That was horrifying.
Dan Le Batard
I don't like downtown Miami. I'm just going to throw that.
Mike Ryan
Let me tell you something. Beats the hell out of South Beach. That's true, I guess. Have you guys.
David Sampson
Granted there are vultures and questions about whether something is.
Billy Corben
I don't understand how we just heard a plane like that.
David Sampson
So the sound of a problem, not a building problem.
Billy Corben
The sound of an earthquake is the sound of a train. If you've ever been in an earthquake, it sounds as though a train is coming into your room when you're in an earthquake. The sound of this. It's hap. Wait, you guys are making this up, right?
Chris Cody
It's a plane. It's just a plane.
Billy Corben
They can't come this often.
Dan Le Batard
No, that's not a plane, Chris. That's something in the air ducts. I don't know what, but something.
David Sampson
So I would have sworn it was a plane, but now I'm open to the idea that it's a ghost.
Mike Ryan
Oh, let's go back.
Chris Cody
Maybe Dan's hungry.
Mike Ryan
Stomach rumbling.
Billy Corben
I lost my train of thought. I'm very sorry, but that scared me.
Mike Ryan
I wanted to.
Chris Cody
Don't worry.
David Sampson
We were just making fun of your shirt.
Mike Ryan
The Miami beach has come out with a. An ad campaign actively telling people not to come to spring break.
Billy Corben
Done this for a couple of years.
Mike Ryan
Have you seen this?
Billy Corben
Yeah, a couple of years.
Mike Ryan
The one where it looks like a. Like a reality show. Because I'm watching, this looks like the worst show ever. And then. And then I realized, oh, no, this isn't a show. This is. This is an ad. And I thought to myself, wow, how many places in the world advertise. Do not come here.
Billy Corben
It's a cyclical thing. If you live down here, you agree with this. If you live on Miami Beach. I came down to Fort Lauderdale as a spring breaker way back in the 80s.
David Sampson
What was that like?
Billy Corben
It was fantastic, but not for people who live there.
Mike Ryan
Hot water bottles as far as the eye could see.
Billy Corben
No.
Dan Le Batard
The local business owners, though, don't. I guess. I guess it's mixed. Some of them do like. Some of them lose a lot of business.
Billy Corben
Now it's a bit of an issue that they increase the parking to 100 bucks so no one can park south of 23rd Street, I think, which is crazy. But it's like when Ultra comes to town, the people who live right around here, they leave. They don't want to be around for that type of festival, but the people who go to it are super happy and high and loving it. So I'm completely in favor of what my bitch is doing. They've done it for an economic reason, and they've said that it's better not to have these spring breakers.
Mike Ryan
But I guess my question is still, how many places on earth have ad campaigns actively telling people, don't come here.
Chris Cody
I don't think it's the same shirt. We're putting this up now. Not to interrupt you, but I think it's a different shirt.
Amin Elhassan
Different shirt.
Billy Corben
Oh, it is a different shirt.
Amin Elhassan
Judges rule.
Billy Corben
But it's the same. I bet you it's the same make.
Mike Ryan
Damn. Flash.
Chris Cody
They're both loud.
Billy Corben
No, I'm saying the same designer.
Chris Cody
Oh, the brand's loud.
Billy Corben
Is that a brand?
Chris Cody
No, I was kidding. It's just.
Billy Corben
Okay, thank you, Chris. Can we find out what brand that is? Does he have a deal?
David Sampson
I'm currently Googling Robert Graham.
Chris Cody
I'm going out on a limb and say Billy does not have a wardrobe deal.
Billy Corben
He does not. Okay.
Amin Elhassan
I would think this might have been like a four pack situation.
Billy Corben
The Costco four pack undies is that.
Amin Elhassan
It's not criticizing the quality, but if I know Billy, he's looking for a bargain, and so he's going to find. All right, I like the way that that shirt fits. Let me get four of them.
Mike Ryan
Well, Dan Flashes is a very aggressive brand, though, so you got to keep that in mind.
David Sampson
Can I give you the Wikipedia note under popular culture, a subsection on the Robert Graham page that I just located? This is the shirt that David Sampson was blaming us for not appreciating. American Idol. Judge Randy Jackson frequently wears Robert Graham shirts on the show, and the contrasting shirt cuffs have been closely identified with the character Cameron Tucker from the television show Modern Family. So just to give you a sense, visually, it's gonna be a no for me, dog.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. You walk by a store, you see 50 guys who look like just like me fighting over very complicated shirts. You go in. Yes, you do. You go in. Stan flashes.
David Sampson
David has no idea what's happening.
Billy Corben
At this point, I'm not going to be embarrassed about shirts that I like. I like designs. I wore one last night. I know you did, and I didn't. I think I look better than your windbreaker. Your members only windbreaker.
David Sampson
I think my windbreaker looks great.
Mike Ryan
They have a shirt there that costs $2,000 because it's so complicated.
Billy Corben
That's not the shirts I buy. Those are limited edition, very unique pieces.
Mike Ryan
Oh.
David Sampson
I'm hearing just Dominique in the back of my head yelling at me to take over the show. And I've been ignoring it for a while. And I finally want to get to a story that I brought in early this morning to Chris because a lot of people got in my mentions over the last couple of days about a breaking news story of its own.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, bro.
I
I'm Marcus Jordan. I'm Michael Jordan's son. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just trying to get home, and I made a wrong turn. Okay. And clearly we would just like to get our car off of the train track, which we were not trying to be on.
Chris Cody
But that's why I had to get you out of the car.
Billy Corben
Okay.
Chris Cody
Because I hear spinning tires. I hear slurred speech from you. You're driving on train tracks.
I
I'm not slurring anything, and I'm.
Billy Corben
Okay.
Chris Cody
I'm letting you know I have concerns.
I
I appreciate that.
Chris Cody
Driving a vehicle.
Mike Ryan
I can't let you back behind the.
Chris Cody
Car and drive a vehicle.
I
I. I appreciate your concerns.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I don't want.
I
But I am not inebriated. I'm not anything that cannot drive home.
Mike Ryan
904-6640.
Chris Cody
The thing is to keep everybody safe.
I
I'm not familiar with this area. I made a right.
Chris Cody
Delta.
I
I thought I was making a right onto the highway. I made it right onto the train track.
Billy Corben
1012.
Mike Ryan
Where did you turn that, man?
I
I wish I. I wish I could.
Mike Ryan
Tell you, but I'm glad we blurred out the cop faces and you missed.
Billy Corben
The best part of the video.
David Sampson
Wait, hold on. I want to set up. I need to set up the visuals. This is Michael Jordan's son, as.
Mike Ryan
Oh, is that who that was?
David Sampson
As he had noted, Marcus Jordan standing in front of his luxury automobile, which was pointed the wrong way, literally, on a. On a bed of cartoon train tracks. And that is where the police Found him thanks to this body camera video, which is a fraught concept, but very useful for content, it turns out, on a day like today. David, what was your objection?
Billy Corben
My objection is that there's a rule that you're told as a celebrity or as a child of a celebrity. It's a very simple rule. You do now teach you this when you're pulled over. Vince Nimoli. Did anybody. Vince Nimoli, former owner of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays, Vince Nimoli got pulled over in Tampa and said, do you know who I am? I am the owner of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. And he then got summarily not let off.
Chris Cody
Yeah, we played the portion where he dropped the name. I don't know if you didn't hear.
Billy Corben
It, so I missed that. So Vince Moly came to an owner's meeting after that and said, hey, here's a lesson. Don't ever say that. And so that is what is taught, like, in owner's meetings. The first time you get the handbook, like, you never talk about the guy.
David Sampson
Who tried to do this and didn't get away with it. Said, pro tip.
Billy Corben
Don't do that.
Chris Cody
The real question is, how do I let them know that I'm Michael Jordan's son without saying it?
Billy Corben
You just give the ID and you hope that they make the connection.
Dan Le Batard
If you have to say it, you're not famous enough to talk your way.
Mike Ryan
Bang.
David Sampson
I think that is, unfortunately, the rule, David. So I think Jess has articulated it well.
Mike Ryan
Earlier, I told you guys the story of how I got in by just.
David Sampson
You know, oh, no, this is. We're winding back around to that.
Mike Ryan
There's a. There's a flip side to that coin, which was later that week. Try to get in somewhere. And the bouncer, I say, yeah, it's just me and my buddy. And he looks at me, it's like, and you are. And I say, you know, come on, man.
David Sampson
Shot some finger guns at him.
Mike Ryan
You know, I'm like, I'm on Sports Nation, whatever. And he said. He looks at me and he says.
David Sampson
You started giving him an A block worthy take.
Mike Ryan
Oh, well, you know, I'm just like, you know, like, I just said, put out the chum. So that he said, oh, man. Like, what do you think is gonna happen? And he looks at me up and down and Sundays, I watch ESPN every single day of my life, and I never seen your ass. And a bolt of lightning came from the sky and hit me and everything just. And I was like. I started stuttering, and I knew I lost it right there. And I tried to be like.
Billy Corben
And you turned around and walked away.
David Sampson
That's so uncomfortable.
Mike Ryan
Luckily, someone I knew was walking in like, he's good, but not.
Billy Corben
That's good timing.
Mike Ryan
No, it's bad timing. I needed it before he said it loud in front of everybody. And I started stuttering and stumbling and instantly all the mask of celebrity and cool that I had was gone.
Billy Corben
Can you help me? Is this the Jordan who was with Scottie Pippen? Was he with Scottie Pippen? There's a moment. The saga is gone.
David Sampson
So Marcus and Larsa Pippen were guests on my show. I was called in a headline in the New York Post. Miserable by them for casting aspersions upon their relationship. So the reason people keep on getting in my mentions about this is because I am the foremost journalistic authority on Marcus Jordan and Larsa Pippin, who have since broken up. And so this is someone else. This is a thing. A woman who is not Larsa Pippin definitively.
Billy Corben
You know that for sure?
David Sampson
I've examined the Fuller tape. We had to cut that down. There's more, but I don't take a special pleasure in watching that video. I just think that he's checking every box on Funny thing a vaguely notable person would do if their car was on a train track.
Billy Corben
It's like said inebriated cartoon shit. You're not supposed to say that.
Dan Le Batard
If I may, I. I think generally this makes me sad. However, it does remind me of the best Reno911 clip of all time, which is the drunk DUI stop where the officer and the drunk guy are doing a dance routine. And then at the end he says that he's drunk.
Chris Cody
It's.
Mike Ryan
But he gets him is like.
Dan Le Batard
She's like, are you a dancer? And he's like, no, I'm just drunk. And she's like.
David Sampson
Just that video. I knew Twitter X was cooked when I saw videos about police misconduct. Like, highlight montages. Include that clip.
Mike Ryan
Come on. They know.
Dan Le Batard
Please stop.
David Sampson
Absolutely. This has been recirculated as actual body cam footage in lots and again. Am I revealing that I also click on those montages?
Billy Corben
Perhaps, but then you get more of them.
David Sampson
According to the algorithm, we're not our clicks.
Billy Corben
You are.
David Sampson
We are. We are not. This is a belief is a take. I have. We are not our clicks.
Mike Ryan
Really? Say that again.
David Sampson
We are not our clicks.
Mike Ryan
Yes. You hear that, Zach Harper?
David Sampson
Our true preferences are not expressed by what we click on. We just happen to click on them sometimes.
Dan Le Batard
Well, yeah. The algorithm's not like, oh, you you must love and agree with this. The algorithm's like, oh, here's him spending more time on this type of content. I'm just going to keep feeding it to him, spoon feeding it over and over and over.
David Sampson
I am being preyed upon like an animal being picked apart by a vulture by the algorithm. Turkey vulture, by the way. I want to find out what Ron McGill's for you page is like and I want to get him on the phone to talk about these vultures after the break.
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 1: Three Petes
Release Date: February 5, 2025
Introduction
In the first hour of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in a lively discussion covering a variety of topics ranging from sports terminologies to personal anecdotes and interactive games. This episode, titled "Three Petes," delves into the origins and implications of the term "three-peat," explores relationship dynamics, features the entertaining game "Is He Human?", and touches upon celebrity interactions with law enforcement.
1. Exploring the "Three-Peat" Phenomenon
The conversation kicks off with an in-depth analysis of the term "three-peat," its origins, and its significance in the sports world. The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding Pat Riley's claim to the term and its subsequent impact on branding within the NFL.
Origins and Controversy:
Billy Corben [02:05]: "I think 3 Pete is used too often by too much that to give it all to one person... he has it."
Implications for the NFL:
Mike Ryan [05:05]: "That's why right now the Chiefs are great. The idea that something that makes everybody watching... feel a need to either say, 'Oh, I want to see them win another one,' or 'I hate that team.'"
Trademark Issues:
Billy Corben [04:08]: "I think it was a mistake by the US Patent and Trademark Office, but he has it."
The discussion highlights the rarity of a three-peat in major sports leagues and its ability to polarize fans, thereby increasing engagement and viewership.
2. Personal Anecdotes on Marriage and Relationships
Transitioning from sports, the hosts delve into personal experiences related to marriage and the challenges that accompany long-term relationships, especially post-parenting.
Compromise in Marriage:
Dan Le Batard [11:40]: "Sometimes you do things you don't want to do. And sometimes they do things they don't want to do."
The Empty Nest Syndrome:
Mike Ryan [12:38]: "The itch is the seven. That's different. Because when the kids disappear, you realize, 'Oh, my God, now what are we gonna do?'"
These segments provide listeners with relatable insights into relationship dynamics, balancing personal desires with partnership responsibilities.
3. Interactive Segment: "Is He Human?" Game
A highlight of the episode is the interactive game "Is He Human?", where David Sampson is posed various life scenarios to determine the humanity of his responses.
Scenario 1:
Chris Cody [08:51]: "You're at lunch with a friend. Your dish arrives before theirs. Are you starting to eat before your dish arrives?"
David Sampson [09:07]: "Good job, David. I mean, begrudgingly."
Scenario 2:
Chris Cody [09:21]: "You're on a four-mile hike with a friend and they forgot their water bottle. Do you offer them any water?"
David Sampson [10:09]: "I'm with Chris. I think we're realizing we're kind of more like David Sampson than we all realize."
The game fosters camaraderie among the hosts while providing humorous yet thought-provoking content for the audience.
4. Celebrity Interaction: Call from Marcus Jordan
The episode takes an unexpected turn with a call from Marcus Jordan, Michael Jordan's son, who shares an incident involving his car on train tracks.
Incident Overview:
Mike Ryan [34:30]: "I'm Marcus Jordan. I'm Michael Jordan's son. I'm not doing anything wrong. I'm just trying to get home, and I made a wrong turn."
Celebrity Protocol with Law Enforcement:
Billy Corben [36:38]: "Don't ever say that. And so that is what is taught, like, in owner's meetings."
The discussion emphasizes the challenges celebrities face when interacting with authorities and the importance of discretion regarding their public personas.
5. Fashion Talk: Robert Graham Shirts
Shifting gears, the hosts engage in a playful debate about shirt styles, focusing on the intricate designs of Robert Graham shirts and their cultural associations.
Fashion Choices:
Billy Corben [32:15]: "I think that's a shadow of his microphone."
Cultural References:
David Sampson [33:03]: "Robert Graham shirts... closely identified with the character Cameron Tucker from the television show Modern Family."
The segment blends humor with fashion critique, showcasing the hosts' diverse interests beyond sports and personal stories.
6. The Impact of Social Media Algorithms
A brief yet insightful conversation touches upon how social media algorithms influence user behavior and content consumption.
Algorithmic Prey:
David Sampson [40:28]: "According to the algorithm, we're not our clicks."
Hosts' Reflection:
Dan Le Batard [40:54]: "The algorithm's not like, 'Oh, you must love and agree with this.'"
This discussion serves as a contemplative moment, highlighting the pervasive nature of algorithms in shaping modern media consumption.
7. General Banter: Fear of Heights and Balconies
In lighter moments, the hosts share personal fears and humorous anecdotes related to heights and staying on balconies, adding a relatable and entertaining layer to the episode.
Fear of Heights:
Billy Corben [23:00]: "I get scared up high and I ask for the lower floors."
Balcony Concerns:
Mike Ryan [23:40]: "You just stay in the room."
These interactions contribute to the show's dynamic, balancing serious discussions with casual and humorous exchanges.
Conclusion
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 1: Three Petes offers a rich tapestry of conversations that weave together sports insights, personal stories, interactive games, and light-hearted banter. Notable moments include the exploration of the "three-peat" term, heartfelt discussions on relationships, the engaging "Is He Human?" game, and the intriguing call from Marcus Jordan. Throughout the episode, the hosts' chemistry and diverse interests provide an engaging listening experience for both regular followers and newcomers alike.
Notable Quotes
These quotes encapsulate key moments and themes from the episode, highlighting the depth and entertainment value of the discussions.