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Chris Cody
Dan Levator show with the Stu Guts podcast.
Dan Le Batard
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Greg Cody
Boldest take is where we're headed. But I have legitimate tension in the room here that I need your guys help with because in the space where we grow as a media company, Zaslo has gotten off to a hot start here with our show and has become a journalist in the last couple of months. The information game is very crowded around here. So far, Mike Ryan is the only one who's wanted that lane and he does not pretend to be a journalist. Mike Ryan says flatly, I'm a fan. I'm a booster. I'm a businessman. I care about the University of Miami first, but also more plugged in on nil. More better information. Starts his own business because the canes are worth following and he's got better information than anybody.
Mike Ryan
Thank you very much for the kind words. You're also selling me short because I broke the biggest story of all time.
Greg Cody
A couple of them. It's not just that story. Congratulations on congratulating yourself.
Mike Ryan
No, it's just the messy one. People forget who broke that one.
Greg Cody
Yes, you broke them. I put it on the poll. Do people forget that Mike Ryan broke the Messi story to my for like.
Mike Ryan
A year and a half? Your boy was on that beat.
Greg Cody
Okay, I thought we were celebrating you already. We don't need to.
Mike Ryan
Well, you omitted.
Billy Corben
You just forgot one.
Mike Ryan
You omitted a pretty big one.
Greg Cody
Okay, well I want to get.
Mike Ryan
Because I understand what I do within the scope of the University of Miami, but I'm also a booster. But, you know, inter Miami, that was some good old school journalism.
Greg Cody
All right, so your area, areas of expertise. I just want to cover this on behalf of what this media company becomes. And I know that Zaslow is saying he's judge and jury over here, but I think that Greg Cody would allege he's got the greatest of the journalistic credentials here in this room.
Chris Cody
But he's a journalist.
Mike Ryan
He has a degree.
Greg Cody
Are you, Greg?
Tony
I don't want to put.
Greg Cody
I don't want to put words in your mouth. This is one of the tensions we have in here right now. The second one's worse. The second one's a good deal worse. Right.
Zach Zaslow
No, I've certainly. I'm the journalist here who's got the most experience at being a journalist.
Tony
What have you done for me lately?
Zach Zaslow
I'm not claiming to have better sources than him or than Mike about, um, football or.
Greg Cody
No, but on the Heat, he's reporting something no one's reporting. He's.
Zach Zaslow
Well, okay, all right, if.
Tony
What's funny about that?
Zach Zaslow
Because if it is being nationally reported that Giannis is open to talking to anybody.
Tony
Right, okay.
Zach Zaslow
Wide open to talking to anybody. And then somebody in the wake of that says, my sources tell me that the Heat are one of those many teams that. That are interested in Giannis.
Tony
No, no, that's not what I mean.
Zach Zaslow
That's not a huge.
Mike Ryan
No, no, that's not it.
Tony
I said the exact opposite.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he had a. He had a much more detailed report.
Tony
That's interesting. Of course. Of course. Every team is interested in Giannis, but is Giannis interested in every team? I wouldn't think so.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Tony
I could tell you that Giannis is interested.
Zach Zaslow
Journalism 101 is to understand that agents want to encourage competition.
Tony
It serves the agent guys listening.
Zach Zaslow
It serves the agent, and it serves Giannis to say, we're interested in that team and that team and that team.
Mike Ryan
Right. But it's still a report that has credence if it's coming from. I mean, I'm not assuming where this, this report is coming from, but Zaz gave a true report. Said. He said Giannis's reps called the Miami Heat.
Tony
Yeah, again, like, express interest.
Mike Ryan
That's. That's a. That's actually a big time scoop.
Tony
Like, again, do you want to surmise that Giannis's people are calling every team insane? We're interested. Maybe that's true. I have no idea. I wouldn't think that that's true. I would think that there's probably only a handful of teams who Giannis is interested in, but I could tell you I know one of those teams they have reached out to is the Heat.
Greg Cody
Okay? So when Zaslow says, I know, Tony, help me here with this because we're growing a media company. When Zaslo says, I know. Is that bigger than Mike Ryan's. That I should remind you that Mike Ryan's. That I should remind you as somebody. When Mike says that, he's saying, hey, you know, I'm credible. Right. When Mike Ryan says that with the fluff of I broke the biggest story on Messi, you know, so that I should remind you when I say something, I'm walking the line between I know it or sources. And you're going to trust me because I'm credible. Correct.
Billy Corben
I broke the biggest story in those contexts. Mike is reminding you that he already knows what it is. Zazzle is just giving you the exact. Just dope of, I know what this is. And they told me.
Tony
Right. This is the first time for me.
Billy Corben
Right, Right.
Chris Cody
We're.
Mike Ryan
We're just, you know, four guys with, you know, backgrounds and breaking big time stories, just shooting the shit. That's what we're doing. But. And I'm not. I'm not going to be pitted against Greg or Zaz. That's a great report. Says, thanks.
Greg Cody
I want some assistance here because I believe that Zaz is very quickly. I know I can be Juan come lately. But I believe Zaslo is passing Greg Cody journalistically because respect. The newspaper business is dying. The information game is growing. And Zaslo, the part of this story that you guys are ignoring, like, man, oh, man, we are selfish in Miami and selfish in coverage when it's like, oh, Giannis might be interested in Miami. Hey, guys, you know Anthony Davis is also a game changer, right?
Mike Ryan
Like, he's not talking about him right now.
Greg Cody
No, but no, somebody else worked. No, wait a minute. Mean. What do you mean?
Mike Ryan
We're not. They miss playoffs. What do we.
Greg Cody
No, no, no, wait a minute. I don't care what your opinion is of Anthony Davis. Zaz reported something.
Mike Ryan
Yes. On Giannis.
Tony
Anthony Davis in Miami.
Billy Corben
Scooper.
Greg Cody
Yes. Thank you. We need to. Cody Zaslo right now is kicking your ass on Heat Information. He's better at information. I would say that Zazlow's two reports might be bigger than any story you've broken. Other than my betrayal about my engagement.
Zach Zaslow
If I covered the Miami Heat I would be really upset that I didn't break that story.
Tony
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
I'm so sorry.
Tony
That feels like.
Zach Zaslow
Although it's still a marginal story break not.
Greg Cody
No, no, it is not.
Mike Ryan
No, it is not a second what he wants.
Tony
If you see someone, forget that it's me. This is a blank face right here. Not this beautiful punum. Okay? This is a blank face right here. If you heard someone locally too. So maybe they're connected. I don't know. I don't know. This person is. You heard this person is reporting that Giannis has reached out to the heat. Would you think it's a big story?
Zach Zaslow
Let me tell you how I define a big story. What's the degree of surprise, okay. If. When Shams reports that. That Giannis is open to every team.
Greg Cody
All right. But Anthony Davis surprised me.
Zach Zaslow
That. That's. That's a little bit more of a surprise.
Greg Cody
Wait a minute. So this is reporting and it's legitimate and I'm. And I'm asking you, why are you denying the credibility of his report?
Tony
Well, first of all, I reported last week that Sam Bennett was not even have a hearing.
Greg Cody
He did.
Zach Zaslow
First of all, I don't know that it's true. And I don't think you know it's true at this point.
Chris Cody
You.
Tony
I know what's true.
Mike Ryan
He doesn't.
Tony
I know. I know my report is true. I know what I was told. I trust my sources.
Zach Zaslow
Right. Okay. There you go.
Greg Cody
Wait, what? Greg, what are you doing?
Chris Cody
We'll see.
Mike Ryan
Doing exactly what you want him to do, which is play your stupid little game.
Greg Cody
So. No. All right?
Tony
This is not a game. As a journalist, it's not a game. This is my life.
Greg Cody
All right? Now I know Billy. Mike, please. I know, I know. I'm the shit stir.
Chris Cody
When's it going to be on the ESPN like website? Because you work for espn. I'm wondering why they're not putting it up. Like, who do we call?
Zach Zaslow
That's a very good question by Billy.
Chris Cody
Ring up to Justin Craig.
Zach Zaslow
Won't you appear as a news story quoting Zaslow? I can promise you that.
Greg Cody
Well, should it though?
Zach Zaslow
Because it's not a definitive enough.
Mike Ryan
It is on Peacock and it is on dkn is on the Levitar.
Greg Cody
Why is it not official? Why Zazloz reporting?
Mike Ryan
It's all politics. We all know what was happening there when politics. Maybe. Maybe it's different now.
Tony
I'm on ESPN tonight, so we'll.
Chris Cody
Can you report a feeling?
Greg Cody
This isn't a feeling.
Tony
It's not a feeling.
Chris Cody
Normal Feels like he wants to come.
Tony
This is not. Not a feeling or pick.
Chris Cody
No, he said.
Mike Ryan
He.
Chris Cody
I said, I feel like I want to play for the Heat. I feel like I would like to maybe play for the Heat.
Mike Ryan
He picked up a phone, like, there was a report yesterday that was open minded about everything. And his reps. That would be a.
Chris Cody
Report if it was him.
Mike Ryan
His reps picked up a phone and said, hey, Miami. Yeah, you're one of the ones.
Tony
That's what I'm telling you.
Chris Cody
Feeling.
Zach Zaslow
You're one of the dozen.
Greg Cody
All right, so Mike Ryan makes. Mike Ryan says, I'm doing all of this, and yet here he is saying, like, somewhere after that, I shall remind you, he said, the ringer took your knees out from under you.
Mike Ryan
They won that championship. Congrats to them. Credit where it's due.
Greg Cody
So journalistic outfits that have some power can affect the outcome of games. And Zaslow is reporting as a legitimate Miami audio legend.
Mike Ryan
Okay.
Greg Cody
He's. He's reporting Anthony Davis and Giannis are interested in in Miami. That's not something anyone else I've seen.
Tony
Anywhere that they both reached out.
Zach Zaslow
I'm looking at. I'm looking at the ESPN's NBA homepage right now, and I don't see.
Greg Cody
Okay, so ESPN is the only thing that validates. Okay, so Metal Arc Media is not allowed to have any reports. It's just ESPN is the only important one.
Zach Zaslow
Okay, what happens there? What happens then? What happens then is that if it's a big enough report from metalark Media.
Greg Cody
So Shams gets to decide that, and.
Zach Zaslow
ESPN gets decided that regurgitates the news break.
Greg Cody
Okay, but that's all. And so you're saying if SaaS were more credible, an ESPN employee, you're saying if Zaz, like, he works at ESPN, he's reporting it, right?
Tony
I am reporting, but I'm like, I'm not. I'm not Shams, like, he's the best.
Mike Ryan
The Anthony Davis thing is problematic.
Tony
Problematic how?
Mike Ryan
Well, because he's under contract with the Dallas Maverick. Yeah, but at least it's being reported about Giannis, that he's available.
Tony
Somebody's got to be first.
Mike Ryan
Okay, but we're learning about Anthony Davis's availability by him and his reps. What's.
Tony
So funny over there, Chuckles?
Mike Ryan
Whoa. I think if I were a Mavs fan, I'd be like, what are you doing? Is this. Is this what the franchise is blessing? You're doing what now? You're reaching out to other teams? This is a whole team.
Tony
Well, I heard this before. I Was told this before last night. Maybe Anthony Davis, like, oh, you know, number one pick. I'm not interested in anything but Dallas. Now, that's just my opinion. That's.
Mike Ryan
I think you got your franchise in trouble, bub.
Chris Cody
You're reporting old news, then.
Zach Zaslow
I mean, that's a bigger.
Greg Cody
Chuckles. Chuckles. He called you.
Zach Zaslow
That's a bigger.
Greg Cody
Look, look.
Chris Cody
But that was old. We don't know how he feels after last night.
Greg Cody
Chuckles. He just called you. He hit you with Chuckles. And this is what I wanted to say from before, because we're in.
Zach Zaslow
I was chuckling at the time.
Greg Cody
In fairness, Chris Cody, I'm in a dangerous emotional space with your father. Your father is willing to take 20 years of beating from me in the name of loving friendship, but lest I say a foul word about his son, I lose him emotionally for sometimes days and weeks because he will abide no man disrespecting his son in public. He'll give him a chicken wing. And so I don't like to make your father mad here, but he's enraged at me. And Zaslow. Zaslow. You saw it, right? Because Zaslo was looking at. At your dad, and it's the first time he's seen. Oh, wait a minute. This isn't a character. This guy would like to take Dan's head and throw it into the ocean.
Tony
It's one of the things that, like, I hat now that I'm around more often and I love being here, it's one of the things that I. I have to start not getting used to. But I'm trying to still figure out, you know, like, what's okay, what is making some people upset, and I certainly don't want to step on toes.
Chris Cody
You just called him Chuckles.
Tony
Well, he was like, he's. Were you chuckling?
Zach Zaslow
I was chuckling.
Greg Cody
Chuckles. Yeah. A bond has been formed. Look at that.
Zach Zaslow
It was a chuckle.
Greg Cody
If that's not the levitard story here. Chuckles. Bond formed over Chuckles. What a pathetic slogan. That's what we're writing.
Mike Ryan
That's in the Q's have been a chuckle fest for 20 years.
Greg Cody
Right. Okay, well, your dad's not chuckling about this, is what I'm telling you.
Mike Ryan
I hope you're happy.
Greg Cody
Well, no.
Mike Ryan
You got him mad.
Greg Cody
He'd like me to apologize to his son on air.
Zach Zaslow
I didn't say that you'd like me to. I mean, I don't think you have it in you. I don't think you feel the need to. I don't want you to do anything that you don't feel the need to do.
Tony
Yeah, call out.
Zach Zaslow
Was it disrespectful in the extreme?
Tony
Was it disrespectful for you to say that his son did not earn nor is capable of doing his current job?
Zach Zaslow
Yeah, a little bit disrespectful.
Tony
Probably a debate to be had there.
Zach Zaslow
Pretty good.
Mike Ryan
Well, which is the ground?
Tony
I'm a judge. Was Lebatard disrespectful to Greg Cody's son by saying he didn't necessarily deserve and is not necessarily good at his current job? Disrespectful?
Zach Zaslow
Oh, thank you, your honor.
Chris Cody
I would also say continuously calling him Greg Cody's son and not Chris Cody because he has a name. Also disrespectful.
Tony
I feel nothing with prejudice.
Greg Cody
Always already risen. Are we willing to allow Zaslow to be judge and jury? We've confirmed. Confirmed him like this is. Are we going to make it judge and jury and executioner Zaslo, because he's a journalist, he's getting into the information game. And Mike, you know this can be scary, right? Chris, you know this can be scary.
Mike Ryan
I'm sorry, I got a smile from ear to ear right now because you Donis is weighing in on Jimmy Butler's effort last night. Hang on. Did you expect more from Jimmy Butler without Steph? Four of none from the field. Six reruns. Hold on.
Billy Corben
Say that again. How many. How many shots from the field?
Mike Ryan
Just four. Five of nine.
Billy Corben
Nine shots, 14 points.
Mike Ryan
I expected more. Thank you, Utah.
Billy Corben
And more than I did.
Chris Cody
Judge, it seems like we're not going to get an apology.
Tony
Well, that's. That. That's not up to a judge's ruling. My ruling is just if it was disrespectful or not. I haven't hand out, you know, damages or anything like that.
Chris Cody
Okay?
Greg Cody
So I know that all of this is bothersome with prejudice. Thank you, Szaszlo. I appreciate these. These, these edicts. I don to do the silly storyline stuff around the basketball today. I really do want to because the hockey playoffs are magical enough. The. The Oilers coming after the. The Oilers coming after Greg Cody's McDavid's overrated and just watching like championship good teams look championship good. You guys told me this would happen to Washington when the playoffs come because it's just such a different style. But I really do want to celebrate in our wheelhouse the historical glory of being able to watch both the Knicks and the Celtics at the precipice. And I've got to be honest, I think we'd all be honest about this. Even in the precious days of we all know what the transactions mean. All of us on bridges were like, what are you doing? What are you doing on bridges? And the answer is trying to fight the Celtics. Like specifically them. Not everybody. Celtics won. Five picks for Bridges. You crazy? Go bear. Five picks. What are we talking about? Oh, Bridges is the third guy specifically on the perimeter with the game the way it's changing might be useful on Tatum doesn't have a moment. And when Bridges is there at the end of a game, Tatum doesn't get a shot or a pass off because Bridges five first round picks for that. That's why he's there. New York, tricky relationship with him. Third guy's hard. Drew Holiday's done it. Well, you go from star to different usage rate, but ah, number two isn't this interesting? Karl Anthony Towns.
Tony
Hmm.
Greg Cody
They've got themselves a Porzingis too. And he shoots from anywhere. And God, I wish he were more physical because that's the best shooting big thing I've ever seen. That is wins three point contest. What? Oh, that's your number two. Mmm. Interesting what the Knicks are building there specifically to challenge the Celtics. No one else. That's what it's built for. Everyone saw the Celtic. Everyone in the sport saw, oh, the Celtics are galloping up ahead. They got the top first round picks. And the Knicks run by James Dolan, a buffoon, a clown, doesn't deserve one clap. From what this Nick run is, the.
Chris Cody
Sphere has been praised by a lot of people.
Tony
Seems like a fun venue.
Greg Cody
It does. I got to admit that my wife loved it.
Billy Corben
It's still there.
Greg Cody
It does. James Dolan's team is not a lovable thing, but what they've built because it gets to be an underdog. Now I really do want to both look at the joys and the awful in one of the stars of the game goes down in pain, crying. We all know what it means. That stinks. We didn't want to see it decided that way. But the Knicks are in the game now. And the Knicks haven't felt like this in 25 years. Legitimately, that game last night is the best feeling there's been in that place this century.
Tony
The Knicks are massive winners right now. I mean for. For everything you just said the Anunoby deal, which I know wasn't in the off season, it was last year. But Anunoby and Mikel Bridges are specifically bought, brought in to defend on the perimeter. And then you also get Bridges in the fourth quarter of you know, game two where he was phenomenal and last night where he was phenomenal. Bridges and Anunobi were making all the shots in the fourth quarter until Jalen Brunson decided, okay, like, I'm the guy.
Greg Cody
But it's not just that. New York having a funny, testy relationship with, we gave up five picks for you. What did we give up five picks for? Oh, what we gave up five picks for is a guy who is tough enough to go with the Celtics and be something in the fourth quarter that can bother Tatum.
Tony
I kind of disagree, though, with the narrative about, you know, gave up five picks for him. He's not worth the. The five picks. It's the same thing with giving up the five picks for Rudy Gobert where they're not necessarily saying that Mikel Bridges is worth five picks. They're saying in order to complete their team so they could be who they want to be, that's worth five picks. Like, if they didn't have Towns and, and they didn't have, you know, Anunoby, they wouldn't have given up five picks.
Greg Cody
Not a lot of people wanted that Towns contract.
Billy Corben
The other thing, too is you, you got Michael Bridges because he was able to do what he did last night, kind of take over the game in the fourth quarter while Jalen Brunson got a breather. You can't have Jalen Brunson out there, all six, two of them running around for 48 minutes in a game. Mikel Bridges got buckets in the mid.
Tony
Range, too, which is tough.
Chris Cody
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Zach Zaslow
I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public. Stugats don't do it.
Chris Cody
This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats.
Greg Cody
Guys, though, this is what's so cool about this story because I've seen it so loud from Nick's fandom. And please find me Jorge Sedano before the end of the show so that I can get to the bottom of this because he accused Stern of rigging the league and we have to get that sound.
Tony
Balls. Question.
Greg Cody
It's just ridiculous.
Tony
Balls.
Greg Cody
The New York Knicks of today, not popular for 25 years with the rah rah frat of our old guys limp on the sidelines. Back to Clyde Frazier to feel that feeling. It felt like in this garden in New York once upon a time for that Knicks team to be built to fight the Celtics and go through this story arc. I loved Hartenstein. Hart and Hartenstein and Thibodeau playing the Grit Min. That's my favorite team. I. They made me feel so good. Better than Carmelo.
Tony
Even Chenzo.
Greg Cody
Oh, my God, that's such a cute story. Don't break up that lovely team that gets squashed by the Heat and Tyler Herro and Bam and get squashed and. Oh, that's not good enough. Don't fall in love at your own peril there. That's not good enough. Oh, Cat. I don't know if he's tough enough, do we really? Is that. Is that. Is that Garden grit? No, but it's 40 footers from a seven footer who can score 35 in a game. And when you need him against Tatum, he can. Like, on any given night, that guy could go from long range. He could do what Tatum does any night. It's the best thing like that I've ever seen. And they got Brunson. So now what you have is the story of Bridges. And Brunson and Cat are tough enough. They can dethrone the champion, man. Jimmy Butler told me Cat's not tough. He's mentally weak. And we've been making fun of his voice. He's not strong enough to be a number one. You can't trust him in the Garden against Tatum and the champs, can you?
Tony
Well, remember, Draymond also said he wasn't tough.
Greg Cody
The whole TNT crew did it too.
Tony
When he ended up being at a funeral and that's why he missed the game. It was because he wasn't tough.
Mike Ryan
It validates ballsy moves that people were right to question, I think, especially when it came to the mental fortitude. However, there's an opposite side of the coin. People were questioning the mental fortitude of Boston this entire run and thought that they might have gotten lucky with how the injuries broke. And now they're going up a team going up against a team whose individuals, whose individual superstars and collectively people have questioned their toughness and Boston's falling short of that. It makes me look at that championship real funny.
Tony
This is why you're a big Knicks.
Chris Cody
Fan for the next couple days.
Mike Ryan
Precisely. I might, I might switch to the Pacers thing. I like calling them the Sirs.
Chris Cody
The thing is like the teams that are left are all rivals of the Heat at one point in time.
Mike Ryan
Right. I think I have more reason actually in my certainly in my adult life to hate the Indiana Pacers than I do the New York Knicks.
Tony
We'll see how this why they never did anything to us. We own that.
Mike Ryan
Knicks didn't take the heat.
Billy Corben
Took him to the brink though. Couple of times. Took the heat to the brink.
Mike Ryan
Please.
Tony
Ended their season every time.
Mike Ryan
But in hindsight. Yeah. Do like Halliburton and Sirs Billy.
Greg Cody
I'm frustrated today. Cody. Because it's a Greg Cody Tuesday headed into a wild Willie Wednesday. And things tend to go off the rails here. And if you, if you throw Zaslow in the mix on playoff newcomer basketball playoff newcomer over there. Mike Ryan thinks nobody's going to notice that now all of a sudden he's interested. Tony. Like the hypocrisy next to you, dude.
Billy Corben
Where's the where's the hoops talk from him? Been in November when we were still trying to figure out certain things.
Mike Ryan
There's no hypocrisy. All I asked was for good compelling basketball. I got that last night. And I told you I'd be the.
Billy Corben
First person basketball in January. Pacer started rolling.
Greg Cody
You've been bandwagon basketball guy in a way that's a little bit offensive to Amin and everyone else around.
Mike Ryan
I'm glad you guys stuffed it out through bad basketball. I've also toughed it out through bad basketball on mute. And last night, guess what? Got the big TV treatment with the sound.
Chris Cody
Really good load management.
Mike Ryan
Really? NBA basketball got the big time treatment with the big time tv because that's theater, that's drama. That's what I miss about the NBA.
Tony
Okay. It was also a terrible hockey game opposite.
Mike Ryan
It was. That's been a bad series. But, you know, my complaints aren't like, I'm done with this sport. My complaints are, fix it. It fix it. Give me something compelling to watch. And they did. Last playoffs.
Billy Corben
Fixed it.
Greg Cody
Playoffs have been rough and tough. You said you love the Oklahoma City Julius Randall. Any comments? I heard you call them trash. You're like, if we're admitting we're wrong. Like, if we're like, you want to know? Okay, judge. Okay.
Mike Ryan
You can show me something, Judge. Step up.
Tony
Julius Randall, good player.
Greg Cody
Mike Ryan. Mike Ryan.
Mike Ryan
Not giving him that.
Tony
Always.
Chris Cody
Okay.
Mike Ryan
Playing the warriors without Seth. Come on. What are we doing?
Billy Corben
Got Draymond there. Like, Draymond's still there playing defense.
Mike Ryan
Warriors without Seth.
Billy Corben
Did you see him last night?
Mike Ryan
Steph makes everything work.
Billy Corben
Julius Randall was incredible.
Mike Ryan
Did you see Steph Curry last night?
Billy Corben
I didn't.
Mike Ryan
That's right.
Billy Corben
But Steph is not going to guard Julius Randall.
Mike Ryan
No, no, but Steph is going to bring guys like, he's gonna.
Billy Corben
But on the offensive side, Julius Randall's been incredible. He's had a triple double. He's got 30 points.
Zach Zaslow
Come on.
Chris Cody
I got your ass, dude.
Mike Ryan
He's gonna stretch him out worse than Sue Harden in the dungeon.
Greg Cody
Yeah, good reference, Tony. Mike Ryan just worked you, and he worked you because he said, did you see Steph Curry out there? And then. No, of course Steph Curry wasn't out there. You could have checkmated him if you had simply said, did you watch them? And you weren't watching Minnesota Golden State either. It wasn't on your big television. You don't care enough. The sound wasn't up. You know nothing about that game. You don't know how good Julius Randle has been in that series, of course.
Billy Corben
But I thought that was obviously, like, something. Something that we all knew that he's not watching.
Greg Cody
He just got here. He just got here on. On basketball. And he's gonna whiff three quarters and snort sports three quarters at a time.
Zach Zaslow
Fake Knicks fan.
Mike Ryan
I don't know what this whole. No.
Chris Cody
Whoa.
Mike Ryan
For right now, it's. It's one of the things I care about most of my life.
Zach Zaslow
Let me Tell you something about Knicks fans, fake Knicks fans. If they lose in the next series, which is fairly likely in my opinion, it's going to be the same. We're crowning the Knicks right now.
Tony
They'll be favored.
Zach Zaslow
We're crowning the Knicks right now. If they lose in the next series, it's going to be the same old Knicks. Gonna be the same old misery. 50 years, 25 years.
Mike Ryan
Here's hoping. I. I can't wait for that day. That's great.
Chris Cody
He's a Pacers fan. Next round.
Mike Ryan
No, no. This whole show is about a gotcha thing and I'll just lean into.
Greg Cody
Yeah, you got it wrong on Julius Randall last year.
Billy Corben
This whole series playoffs stand. It's been incredible.
Greg Cody
I say you're wrong. It's okay.
Mike Ryan
Was Julius Randle good last night? I wasn't watching. I don't care.
Billy Corben
315 the game before that. 24, 10 and 12, triple double confusing player.
Mike Ryan
Confusing about Rudy Gobert, too. If they make it to the NBA Finals, I'm going to maybe need to do some apologizing.
Billy Corben
24, 11 and 7 the game prior.
Greg Cody
You have called him trash.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's a trash can. He's not a good player. He's a bad player.
Billy Corben
Numbers don't lie, buddy.
Mike Ryan
Sometimes they do, especially when it comes to Julius Randle.
Greg Cody
You can't talk to this. Jimmy Butler was minus 30 last night and took nine shots.
Mike Ryan
The numbers are telling all sorts of truth there.
Chris Cody
Mike told you about that.
Tony
Warriors fans are so confused. Why didn't he shoot that? Like he has, like a layup and he just kicks it out for throw. Why didn't he shoot?
Billy Corben
Welcome.
Mike Ryan
Oh, man. It's good stuff. That's good stuff. I should have stayed awake for that.
Greg Cody
I really should have it. I got to tell you, though, it is funny, but are you watching the rehearsal?
Mike Ryan
This is nuts.
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's nuts. That's crazy.
Mike Ryan
I don't try to describe episodes.
Greg Cody
Never in the history of television. I'm just saying never in the history of television is anything like this ever been. I cannot. Well, I just. Because it's that different. It's that ambitious. It's this. It.
Mike Ryan
I actually think this is more ambitious, but I actually think Nathan, for you, is the better of the two concepts. But this is so ambitious. And it is such an abuse of a budget that they've given.
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll. It's wasteful. It's not unlike Greg Cody at Michelin restaurants. Please put it on the poll. Is the rehearsal the most ambitious show in the history of television. Like, I literally could assemble an argument for making it as ambitious as Game of Thrones on stupidity, on just. Just sheer degree of difficulty where all you're watching for, you might not even find it funny. You're like, why did they waste so much money on this for this guy's mind? Because he's weird.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, but he's not. He's not weird. And what he's trying to get to might actually save lives. It might. That might be the pot at the end of this particular rainbow, but all of it's absurd. He's as smart as anybody and has been, by the way, going on a decade, going back to the Nathan for your days. This guy has been operating at a different intellectual comedic plane than anybody. And seemingly HBO just gave him a blank check to follow his heart's desire and tell, like, the. The most ambitious twisted tale he possibly could. And like I said, if you watched episode three, find someone that knows nothing about the concept and just try to explain that episode you just did.
Billy Corben
You told me that they got air from a city and blew it in a dog's face.
Mike Ryan
That's. Yeah, yeah. That is, like, honestly doesn't crack the top 50 in Crazy Things from that episode.
Greg Cody
It's a little bit hard to explain the rehearsal to people who aren't interested in it. It's not very hard to understand. It's just a very ambitious project.
Chris Cody
I saw a story in the trades yesterday about a singer that fell for the trap in his wings of voice, or whatever it's called, the singing contest, and was flying back and forth across the country and spent over $10,000 to try to be part of this singing competition just to find out it was all just an elaborate ruse and is now upset by the fact that she spent $10,000. That's the thing.
Mike Ryan
Is it an elaborate ruse? If we're saving lives, do they get reimbursed? That is a contribution she is making to saving well, and also had to.
Chris Cody
Sign an NDA, which she is now broken and is basically saying, like, okay, so, like, the stories out there, I guess now come after me and see how that goes. Because, like, there are silent victims in these games of his, right? Where people are getting their hopes up on things that are not realities. They're just kind of for Nathan's entertainment. Well, and I liked. I like the show. I like the show. But, like, there are people, like, if you watch this week's episode, like, you kind of have to feel bad for the pilot that they were focusing on in his Love life. And like, they picked these people that, you know, are susceptible to being his victim.
Greg Cody
Tony, I know you're lost, Billy.
Billy Corben
So it's about a dog or a pilot.
Mike Ryan
We didn't even get into recreational creating shot for shot. Sully Sullenberger's life.
Chris Cody
Yeah, that was.
Mike Ryan
Including breastfeeding.
Chris Cody
That was. Yeah, that was something.
Greg Cody
So, Tony, forgive me for Billy's yam.
Billy Corben
I was watching Julius Randall day. That's what I was doing.
Chris Cody
Spoiler Wednesdays tomorrow. I'm not spoiling anything.
Greg Cody
I will tell you something else that is funny about the New York Knicks and this present enthusiasm that the New York Knicks are feeling when I'm here to tell you that unless there are major injuries, that team has zero chance of winning the championship. Zero chance. The New York Knicks this year are 3 and 11 against the Cavs, Celtics and Thunder. Those three victories are in this series. 3 and 11 against the best teams in the league. I don't care how gritty you think this version of the Knicks are, which is a more beloved version than last year's version because it's a. It's Brunson and better. They believe in Hart, but that team cannot win the championship.
Mike Ryan
And I don't care how brave you think Sully Sullenberger was. We do not get that act of bravery without evanescence.
Tony
3 and 11 is obviously terrible. But when you then also point out that those three wins have come this round, doesn't that just increase the Knicks chances of winning? Because, hey, like, the regular season must mean nothing against those teams then, right?
Billy Corben
And then you look at Boston, obviously they've won those three games. The Cavs are basically done and dusted. OKC still over there. And that's going to be tough.
Greg Cody
You've got the Cavs dusted.
Mike Ryan
Dusted.
Greg Cody
The Pacers can play with anybody, right?
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Tony
If you can make three and they're not afraid.
Greg Cody
It's a weird thing to say, is it not? The Pacers can play with anybody in the new evolution of what it is. Well, if Halliburton's gonna. If Halliburton's gonna hit him from 30ft and we can have a legitimate an argument any night. Well, who's their best player? Siakam or Halliburton? But both of them can do it. You're not believing in any of it, Michael.
Mike Ryan
No, no, I believe in them. You're invoking names like Siakam and Ogn and Obi everybody wants. If you're viewing this from the Heat fan perspective, it's. I'm a Knicks fan. So, like, that's one of the teams that actually went out and got these guys that could make an impact. Bridges, OG Anunoby. Everyone gets so everyone romanticizes the Whale. They whiffed on Lillard. They miss on Harden. They miss on Durant multiple times. They miss on all these guys. They also miss on Siakam. They Also Ms. On OG let me ask something.
Tony
How do you know that the Heat didn't try to trade for those guys?
Mike Ryan
No, I know that they tried to trade for those guys. I'm reporting. I know they tried to and I know they failed the back report, and.
Greg Cody
I know they failed.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, they failed in trying to get those guys.
Chris Cody
What are your suggestions?
Mike Ryan
That is my lament is that not only are you failing for the top guy, you're also deciding, oh, we're not going to part with these pieces because we don't think OG and Siakam can get us where we want to go. And then I see Siakam and OG take teams where they want to go. We're missing pieces. So there's just people just like to go top line talent. No, no, no. The dysfunction and failures from this organization is actually quite the tail. We've woven quite the weave of tail when it comes to their failures in.
Tony
The last five years. How many finals did the paces of Knicks appear in?
Mike Ryan
Well, that math is about to take.
Tony
We're in two of them.
Mike Ryan
Didn't you say what have you done for me lately earlier to Greg?
Tony
We're talking about journalism, okay? Journalism.
Mike Ryan
Well, ask the NBA and those two teams in particular next week when they're in the Eastern Conference Finals. What have you done for me lately, say, because all you've done for me lately is get me to the playing.
Billy Corben
Back to back ECF's for the Pacers.
Greg Cody
By the way, Jay Williams is getting roasted for saying on get up that the Mavs should consider trading the number one pick for a player like Giannis, Devin, Booker or Maxey.
Billy Corben
Look, nobody's a bigger Tyrese Maxey fan than I am. That might end Nico Harrison's tenure in Dallas.
Mike Ryan
I was getting mad when I saw Maury with a chance at this number one pick. I was getting real mad. I was getting real mad.
Billy Corben
You see him face down on the. On the thing, though, when they pulled.
Mike Ryan
Out him, that was the one place. That was the one place that flatly could not get the number one. I was good with saying Antonio and Dallas. If the alternative was. We all know that Charlotte would have been.
Billy Corben
I didn't like that.
Greg Cody
I Think we can be clear on this? Even though Joel Embiid, pretty special physical talent. It all starts with Giannis. Any of the dominoes or after that. Everyone understands that if you can get Giannis, you get him. Because the next three years of Giannis can be close, no matter who you put around it. And of course, everyone's in that game. That part seems obvious, right?
Chris Cody
Not no matter who. I mean, he bounced in the first round.
Greg Cody
No, but. But you'd have a chance as soon as he signs his name to something, correct?
Zach Zaslow
Yes, absolutely.
Chris Cody
You'd also have to build around him. Like, if you're the Heat, you have to get rid of your stuff that you just have him.
Greg Cody
So. So, Billy, are you objecting to what I'm saying that. That Giannis makes any team better as.
Chris Cody
Soon as you get him, depending on the pieces that are on the team that he's part of.
Mike Ryan
I mean, they gave him Boonen, Holzer and Doc Rivers to work with.
Chris Cody
But I'm saying, like, you're assuming that he's just going to come to the Heat and have this same roster. You have to get rid of people to get him.
Greg Cody
I'm not.
Chris Cody
If you get rid of. If you get rid of Bam to get Giannis.
Greg Cody
I'm sorry, Billy.
Chris Cody
Bam and Hero.
Greg Cody
So. Billy, I'm not. I don't want to do this whole thing. But you do understand that the tr. I don't. This is not up for dispute. You got to make the salaries match. But I would assume that if Giannis is interested in the Heat, the Heat's response to that is, anyone you want, make the contracts match up, take anyone you want.
Tony
You don't have to assume. I report.
Greg Cody
Take any. Take any four or five pieces that need to match up.
Mike Ryan
Why are you saying that so definitively? Because last time they got into the pursuit of a superstar, it was like, Tyler Hero, take it or leave it. And by the way, you.
Greg Cody
I'm saying it definitively because Giannis is a reset on what architecturally, a GM's job is. Go find the other 11 pieces. The one you never can develop yourself is that one. And there are like, four in the league. It's not 10. Anthony Davis and Joel Embiid's body is not enough. No. What you will get is a superstar. Who cares. Face of the league, immediate injection into your season ticket system. An economy of wealth that brings Giannis the business with his brother. By the way, you're going to have to take the whole family. That's how that one's going to work.
Chris Cody
So now you only have 10 slots.
Greg Cody
And any and any team in the league would want him. And I think just about any team in the league would trade any one player they have for him. Like, maybe Jokic is an exception, but nobody else.
Tony
The league's changed, too, by the way. Like, it's not the way it was 10 years ago, where. Let's just acquire as many stars as we got to get a big three. Like, Phoenix just tried that. All right? The league's not like that anymore. If you can get one, maybe even two if you get your hands on two really good players. But it's really about filling out the rest of the roster. Now, the league's different like that, so if you get your hands on a guy like Giannis. All right, well, we'll add other pieces around it. It's not necessarily about getting as many stuff.
Greg Cody
I will tell you that Dallas, that just won the lottery, however unpopular their general manager, his thought process is, well, Luke, I don't trust his body to be one of these five pieces in three years. Like, that's how they presented that I need to win with defense.
Mike Ryan
Now, he's why we traded for Anthony Davis. That's.
Greg Cody
I mean, he's an idiot, but you understand. You understand. This is why Nico being a winner today is uproarious. Can we go back to Boost Mobile, please?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, I thought you never asked me.
Greg Cody
Coming around.
Dan Le Batard
It's not a heater right now.
Greg Cody
The callers are getting better. Keep getting sharper, please. The Telephone number is 305486. Gotz G O T Z. 468-9305-486-4689.
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Greg Cody
Hey, what's up, guys? You got army here in San Francisco.
Mike Ryan
I think every sports writer should have to be in with a fastball in.
Greg Cody
Order to write about sports. Thank you.
Mike Ryan
Hey, guys, it's Brian in Albuquerque. The Stan Van Gundy look like the guy at the meatball sub shop behind the counter wearing a shirt that says Legalize Marinara, calling up and listen. Hey, this is Will. In front of a computer, there are 94 different types of apples. According to apples.com, that is 92 too many apples. You just need a red one and a green one. If you were to blind taste test, I don't think you could tell the difference between a Golden Russet, a Sweet Tango, or a Cosmic Crisp. I'll hang up and listen. Hey, guys, this is Stu from Boston first time long time. Here's my limited fake confession guy at a sporting event selling beer. Ice cold is here.
Greg Cody
Get your ice cold Diz.
Tony
Here ice cold is.
Mike Ryan
Hey, this is Joe calling from the Magic Conch. I think that people who listen to music out loud in public or at work are the worst people on the planet. Even worse than people who don't return their shopping cart. I'll hang up. Bit a little. Listen. Pay the wheels. Hey, this is kit. In the NBA, once your team misses 23s, you don't get any more threes. You can shoot it from wherever it's worth two points. The Chipotle fork is the best fork.
Zach Zaslow
In the food industry and it should.
Mike Ryan
Be a first ballot fork hall of Famer. I'll hang up and listen. This was one of the weaker episodes until that.
Billy Corben
That one is a great take.
Mike Ryan
Certified banger.
Greg Cody
Okay.
Mike Ryan
And it's a thing on the Internet. People know about this.
Billy Corben
I take extra.
Mike Ryan
Extra. Yes, it's great. It's better than the actual silverware and the napkins.
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 1: What's So Funny Over There, Chuckles?
Release Date: May 13, 2025
Note: The summary begins after the initial advertisement segments.
The episode kicks off with a sponsor shout-out from DraftKings at [01:08], setting the stage for the day's discussions.
Main Participants: Greg Cody, Mike Ryan, Zach Zaslow, Tony, Billy Corben
The hosts delve into a heated discussion about journalistic integrity within their media company. Greg Cody raises concerns about Zach Zaslow's role as a journalist, suggesting that Zaslow is outpacing other reporters with significant stories.
Greg Cody ([01:52]):
"When Zaslo says, 'I know,' it should remind you that Mike Ryan's credibility is on the line."
Mike Ryan ([01:57]):
"I broke the biggest story of all time."
The debate intensifies as Greg highlights Mike Ryan's accomplishments, particularly breaking the Giannis Antetokounmpo story related to the Miami Heat. Zach Zaslow defends his reporting methods but acknowledges the competitive nature of the information game.
The conversation underscores the challenges of maintaining journalistic standards amidst growing media competition, especially concerning high-profile sports figures like Giannis and Anthony Davis.
Focus: Potential trades involving Giannis Antetokounmpo and Anthony Davis to the Miami Heat.
The hosts analyze recent rumors and reports about Giannis's openness to joining the Miami Heat. Greg Cody questions the credibility of these reports, while Mike Ryan emphasizes the significance of such trade news.
Greg Cody ([05:26]):
"Zaslo is passing Greg Cody journalistically because respect. The newspaper business is dying."
Mike Ryan ([08:07]):
"He said Giannis's reps called the Miami Heat."
The discussion touches on the implications of these potential trades, the strategic moves by the Heat, and the broader impact on the NBA landscape. They debate whether acquiring Giannis would necessitate substantial roster changes, including trading key players like Bam Adebayo.
Focus: Examination of the Knicks' recent performances and their chances in the playoffs.
The conversation shifts to the New York Knicks, celebrating their resurgence after 25 years of subpar performances. The hosts dissect the team's strategies, player performances, and their competitiveness against top teams like the Celtics and Heat.
Greg Cody ([16:26]):
"The Knicks run by James Dolan, a buffoon, doesn't deserve one clap."
Tony ([17:45]):
"The Knicks are massive winners right now."
They discuss key players such as Mikel Bridges and RJ Barrett, highlighting their contributions in critical moments. The debate includes whether the Knicks can sustain their success and potentially challenge for the championship, with Mike Ryan remaining skeptical.
Focus: Engaging with listeners through calls and humorous exchanges.
Throughout the episode, hosts interact with callers sharing diverse opinions, jokes, and personal anecdotes related to sports and pop culture.
Caller Brian from Albuquerque ([40:41]):
"There are 94 different types of apples. According to apples.com, that is 92 too many apples."
Caller Stu from Boston ([41:34]):
"Here's my limited fake confession guy at a sporting event selling beer. Ice cold is here."
These segments add a humorous and relatable layer to the discussion, balancing the more intense debates with light-hearted moments.
Focus: Analysis of ongoing NBA playoff series, player performances, and team strategies.
The hosts provide insights into various playoff matchups, including critiques of player performances and team decisions.
Mike Ryan ([29:35]):
"Sometimes they do, especially when it comes to Julius Randle."
Greg Cody ([33:00]):
"The Knicks this year are 3 and 11 against the Cavs, Celtics, and Thunder. That team cannot win the championship."
They examine the performances of key players like Julius Randle and Jimmy Butler, assessing their impact on their respective teams' chances of advancing.
Focus: Teasing upcoming segments and future discussions.
As the episode progresses, hosts hint at future topics, including NCAA basketball coverage and reactions to significant game outcomes.
This segues into preparations for upcoming episodes and areas they intend to explore further, ensuring listeners stay engaged for future content.
Note: The summary concludes before the final advertisement segments.
Before wrapping up, the hosts reiterate the importance of credible reporting and maintaining integrity within their discussions, hinting at resolving existing tensions in future episodes.
Greg Cody ([05:26]):
"Zaslo is passing Greg Cody journalistically because respect. The newspaper business is dying."
Mike Ryan ([08:07]):
"He said Giannis's reps called the Miami Heat."
Tony ([17:45]):
"The Knicks are massive winners right now."
Mike Ryan ([29:35]):
"Sometimes they do, especially when it comes to Julius Randle."
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, the hosts engage in robust discussions about journalistic credibility within their media company, dissect high-profile NBA trade rumors involving Giannis Antetokounmpo and Anthony Davis, and analyze the New York Knicks' promising yet scrutinized performance in the playoffs. Interspersed with humorous caller interactions, the episode balances intense sports debates with light-hearted moments, providing listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of current sports narratives.