Hour 1: Zaslow Cries At John Cena's Final Match

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 1: Zaslow Cries At John Cena's Final Match
Date: December 15, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their crew deliver their signature blend of South Florida sports talk, pop culture banter, and playful ribbing. This hour features everything from passionate wrestling fandom and the John Cena retirement match, to college football power rankings, coach Marcus Freeman’s meteoric job prospects, and a humorous roast of the Dolphins’ radio broadcast.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The “Jordan vs. LeBron” Shoe Culture Debate

[01:51–03:42]

• Tony Koladiu declares Michael Jordan the GOAT, but not for the usual reasons:

  "The impact globally for the culture that Jordan has made from the shoe perspective I think outweighs anything that LeBron could do on the court, off the court." (02:08, Tony Koladiu)

• The panel quickly derails into what motivates “10 Day Tony,” who says it’s always about “the next thing,” illustrating the show's meandering, improvisational humor.

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2. College Football: LSU Love, Miami Dominance, and Marcus Freeman's Golden Touch

[04:03–13:17]

Coach O’s Critique of Brian Kelly

[04:38–05:35]

• Ed Orgeron (Coach O) is played in a clip reflecting on how Brian Kelly "never fit" at LSU, emphasizing the culture and personal touch as critical to success:

  "You gotta go in there and love them. It ain't so much about the X's and the O's...he didn't do that." (05:01, Coach O)

Panel Debates 2019 LSU vs. 2001 Miami Hurricanes

[06:29–08:32]

• Names get dropped like it’s the NFL Draft:

  "Team had seven first round picks, which is great. Miami of 2001 had 17." (08:14, Tony Koladiu)

  • Ed Reed, Andre Johnson, Frank Gore, and more.
• Dan Le Batard:

  "I'm just gonna say it. '01 Canes would kick the shit outta them." (08:32, Dan)

• Heated back-and-forth draws lines in the sand over who had the better roster and why.

Marcus Freeman's Hot Coaching Stock

[07:47–13:17]

• Mike Ryan argues Freeman is now possibly the most coveted coach in football, mainly because he inherits success without the blemish of defeat:

  "If you're Marcus Freeman's agent, it's the best thing that could have possibly happened...now you can get any job that you want." (09:22, Mike Ryan)

• NFL interest is rampant:

  "There are entire divisions that want Marcus Freeman..." (11:08, Mike)

• The crew debates the politics of coaching, leverage, and inevitable job hopping, suggesting Freeman’s job market might never be hotter.
• Flaw watch: Freeman’s “bad losses” and hairline are about the only knocks the group can muster.

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3. John Cena’s Final Match: Fan Passion and Pro Wrestling’s Theatre

[20:03–30:51]

Cena’s Retirement and Zaslow’s Fandom

[20:03–22:03]

• Dan Le Batard describes the scene as,

  "the center of what was a pop culture phenomenon over the weekend...Cena comes out for his entrance. It's his final entrance ever. The whole crowd is singing...It was wild." (20:14, Dan Le Batard)

• Panel immediately turns personal:

  "You cried." (20:55, Tony Koladiu)
  Dan and others joke about the emotional payoff.

Wrestling Outcomes: Scripted Farewells & the Heel Turn

[22:03–26:37]

• The "retiring wrestler always loses" trope is dissected, and the crowd’s anger at new heel Gunther is described,

  "They had to escort him to his bus...they're chanting, you, Gunther. They're so angry...they’re gonna attack him." (24:54, Dan Le Batard)

• Greg Cody laughs off the finality:

  “After an appropriate amount of time, 4 months, 5 months...John Cena comes back.” (22:03, Greg Cody)
  Dan counters that with Cena's clean-cut image, a return would be a betrayal.

The Meta-Discussion: Adult Wrestling Fandom & The “Theatre” Analogy

[26:31–29:37]

• Greg Cody, skeptical of grown men invested in wrestling, pokes fun but gets schooled by Dan and Mike, who treat wrestling as “theatre” and a live play with passionate fans.
• Dan Le Batard:

  "There are millions of people just like you who will frown on me for traveling and going to this kind of show. But I was at a pop culture phenomenon...That shit was fun." (26:39, Dan Le Batard)

• The group debates whether Cena will return, with most betting the wrestling script will win out over any real-world “honor code.”

Notable Quote

"If he comes back, he literally would have scammed paying customers." (29:33, Dan Le Batard)

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4. Obscene Gestures in Sports: Middle Fingers & Hall of Fame Voting

[34:05–40:09]

• Mike Ryan segues into Tony Jefferson's ejection for an "obscene gesture," triggering a silly but detailed analysis of which gestures are “first-ballot hall of famers.”
• Greg Cody:

  "What I grew up calling the bird." (39:54, Greg Cody)

• The conversation veers absurd, comparing Italian gestures, Michael Jackson moves, and whether “grabbing the package” is Hall-worthy.

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5. The Dolphins Radio Broadcast Roast

[40:20–45:04]

• Mike accuses Dan (in-character as Zaslow) of voting the Dolphins’ radio team dead last in an Awful Announcing poll.
• Dan feigns innocence, but then essentially admits his distaste for Cephalo’s work:

  "Listen, are all of those things the way that I feel? Yes, they are." (43:42, Dan Le Batard)

• The panel reads scathing “anonymous” critiques (likely from Dan), e.g.,

  "Cephalo is, quote, the worst in the business for the last 20 years..."

• Dan Le Batard:

  "Cephalo didn't tell you what was going on until Kenny and Drake was at the 10 yard line." (45:01, Dan)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Dan Le Batard:

  "‘01 Canes would kick the shit outta them." (08:32)

• Tony Koladiu:

  "The impact globally for the culture that Jordan has made from the shoe perspective I think outweighs anything that LeBron could do..." (02:08)

• Mike Ryan:

  "If you're Marcus Freeman's agent, it's the best thing that could have possibly happened...now you can get any job that you want." (09:22)

• Dan Le Batard (on Cena match):

  "I had my hands on my head like this. When he tapped out, I was shook...I really wanted him to win." (21:12–21:16)

• Greg Cody:

  "People are going like this...it's only a matter of time before [Cena] makes his big comeback." (25:28)

• Dan Le Batard (on fandom):

  "That shit was fun. Didn't get the ending I wanted, of course, but that was a fun, fun night." (26:39)

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Notable Timestamps

• Jordan vs. LeBron Impact Debate: 02:01–02:39
• Coach O on Brian Kelly and LSU: 04:38–05:35
• Miami Hurricanes vs. LSU Talent Comparison: 06:29–08:32
• Marcus Freeman’s Coaching Trajectory: 07:47–13:17
• Cena final match lead-up and aftermath: 20:03–27:37
• Obscene Gesture Hall of Fame: 34:05–40:09
• Dolphins Broadcast Critique: 40:20–45:04

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Tone and Style

Free-wheeling, irreverent, locally-infused and consistently self-aware. Banter is loaded with inside jokes, inter-crew jabs, and sincerely passionate arguments, especially on sports legacies and fan investment. Even when poking fun, the show maintains affection for its subjects and listeners alike.

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For Newcomers

This episode is a microcosm of the show: sports debates morph into cultural discussions, pro wrestling is examined with as much gravity as playoff football, and the panel isn’t afraid to roast their own local heroes—or each other. Whether you care about John Cena’s legacy, Marcus Freeman’s job prospects, or the art of the middle finger, you’ll find a home here if you thrive on snappy, chaotic, deeply local sports radio energy.

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Transcript

[Tony Koladiu]

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levator show with the ST Podcast.

[Jeremy Tachet]

Welcome to another episode of Insights to Mediocrity. I'm Jeremy Tachet here with our expert, our superstar Tony Koladiu.

[Tony Koladiu]

It's good to be here, Jeremy.

[Jeremy Tachet]

Tony, tell me, Jordan or LeBron?

[Tony Koladiu]

Jordan. Why better shoes?

[Jeremy Tachet]

It's a great answer.

[Tony Koladiu]

People got to talk about championships. People talk about points. LeBron's got more points, Jordan's got more championships. Defensive, this, that who's who's got a bigger impact on the culture. And LeBron has come out with some nice shoes. I I've worn them, I've bought them, I have them, right? But the impact globally for the culture that Jordan has made from the shoe perspective I think outweighs Anything that LeBron could do on the court, off the court. I think just that cements Jordan as the goat.

[Jeremy Tachet]

What motivates 10 Day Tony?

[Tony Koladiu]

The next thing the next thing, like, yeah, we're here, we're doing this thing. You know what motivates me? The next thing, like, what's. What are we doing now? We're doing this conversation. What am I gonna do next? That's what motivates me to get to that point. Like, we're gonna be done with this. This will be filmed off somewhere. Somebody will edit it, they'll put it out on the show. They'll do whatever. What does that do? Tell me.

[Jeremy Tachet]

It's the next challenge for you.

[Tony Koladiu]

Always it's the next thing. I don't even know what the next thing is, but that's what motivates me. I don't know what it is, but I'm gonna find it and I'm gonna do it. It was, hey, I shoot righty, and, yeah, I'm right handed. I shoot righty, righty all my life. Okay, perfect. What if I shoot lefty? What if I shoot lefty in the game? What if I shoot lefty falling away out of bounds? What if people are upset that I'm shooting lefty? Will I continue? Will I not? I do. That's the next challenge. So for me, what motivates me next.

[Mike Ryan]

Needs to be shorter. Those are insights into mediocrity. I want to ask before we get to John Cena and. And. And Zaslow traveling to go see him submit for the first time in his career historically gave up 20 years. First time.

[Greg Cody]

Loser.

[Mike Ryan]

We'll get to that in a second. But I wanted to ask you guys, and I'm going to set this up a certain way. I wanted to ask you something related to Marcus Freeman and ask you if you've heard anyone el what I'm about to say about Marcus Freeman. But before I do that, I want to play for you guys. Some sound of Coacho Koch O is going through the rubble of what's happened at lsu and Coach O is telling you that Brian Kelly never fit there. I want to hear this sound from bussing with the boys, and Brian Kelly didn't feel like the personality to handle that. Were you, like, what was your thought process?

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

First of all, we made a mutual decision. They fired me. We made a mutual. We made a mutual decision, but I wanted to coach the team through it. And I made. I'm not leaving this team. I was ready to go. There was enough, you know, and when they named him, he was a big time hire and stuff like that, but I wondered how well he would relate. Like you said, L.A. is a different place, man. People think different players are Raised different people, raised different in the South. You got to be a personable person. You gotta go in there and love them. It ain't so much about the X's and the O's and stuff. It's by getting them to play and, you know, hey, taking care of them and make them sure they understand that he didn't do that. That was. He didn't have to do it. Notre Dame. Right. Or if he did it, I don't know. But when he came out and said family and like that, it's a great.

[Mike Ryan]

Night to be a Tiger, I'm here.

[Greg Cody]

With my family, it just.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

It just wasn't a good thing. Yeah. Is he a great coach? Yes, he is.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, he did it if I noted him for a long time. So before I get to Marcus Freeman, I want to ask you guys there, do you guys hear coacho saying there, I won because I connected with the players. Brian Kelly didn't win because he didn't connect with the players. It sort of ignores that Cocho had Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, and that's not exactly what Brian Kelly had. But you hear coacho saying there, the way I did it was the right way to do it. The way Brian Kelly did it. He never connected. Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

It could be both. Like it is. Yeah, he had the good players, but also, so you know, that's someone who didn't like because he's not the only one who's alluded to that. Brian Kelly was never someone who loved lsu. And you know, Saban loved lsu. Les Miles loved lsu. Ed Os clearly loved lsu and you never got that impression that Brian Kelly loved LSU.

[Tony Koladiu]

You take a look at the 2019 team. Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Clyde Edwards or Lair, who was a first round pick. Grant Delpit, who's been good in the league. Derek Stanley Jr. Was a freshman on that team in 2019, ended up being a top three pick. Patrick Queen, Christian Fulton, Kalavon Chase on Jacob Phillips, Lloyd Cushionberry. Like you're talking about NFL multi year starters, some pro Bowlers, some great players.

[Mike]

And it's not like he showed up and these guys were on the roster to his original point. He developed those relationships. He had to talk former Mr. Ohio into picking LSU and leaving Ohio State. Like he secured that talent.

[Mike Ryan]

That is the best roster that I've ever seen a college football team have. And he was gone very quickly after that.

[Mike]

Easy.

[Mike Ryan]

I. I'd say, I'd say better than the university.

[Greg Cody]

Whoa.

[Mike]

That defense, like, I know that there's some NFL names not that good for Justin.

[Chris]

Roster comparison name for name.

[Mike Ryan]

Joe Burrow is better than any quarterback Miami's ever had.

[Mike]

That's fine.

[Mike Ryan]

Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson are better than any receiver except Michael Irvin.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, okay.

[Mike]

I mean the receivers on that thing were pretty freaking good.

[Tony Koladiu]

I've heard of Andre Johnson, fan. He's got a gold jacket.

[Greg Cody]

Freaking good.

[Mike Ryan]

Not Jamar Chase.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know about that?

[Mike Ryan]

Reggie Wayne, Not Justin Jefferson, Jim.

[Mike]

And the defense, it's no question who's better.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know, by that Jerry Shockey, you.

[Mike Ryan]

Can make whatever arguments you want. Debatable. I will go from there though to tell you that the reason Marcus Freeman is so coveted right now is simply because he surprised us by inheriting what it is that Brian Kelly gave him and keeping it in the same place. But the thing I wanted to ask all of you in wondering what's presently happening around Marcus Freeman, the LSU 2019.

[Tony Koladiu]

Team had seven first round picks, which is great. Miami of 2001 had 17. What those are as followed Ed Reed, Andre Johnson, Frank Gore, Clinton Portis, Jeremy Shockey, Vince Woolfork, Sean Taylor, rest in peace, Reggie Wayne, Jonathan Vilma, Antrell roll, Philip Buchanan, D.J. williams, Mike Rumpf, Willis McGahey, Brian McKinney, Vernon Carey, William Joseph, 17.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, I'm just gonna say it. 01 Kanes would kick the shit out of Dan.

[Jeremy Tachet]

You need to apologize.

[Mike]

We tell Clyde Edwards, this isn't a good place for you. You don't fit.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Time to walk it back, Jack.

[Mike Ryan]

It might be I'm going to have to look at it a second because that LSU offense was better than I saw Miami ever had. But maybe I'm wrong on different eras. The thing that I wanted to say to you about Marcus Freeman, though, to wonder whether or not anyone is doing what I'm about to say. I know Notre Dame is mad about what just happened, and I know that Notre Dame has every reason to be mad about what just happened. But if you're Marcus Freeman's agent, it's the best thing that could have possibly happened to your client. Because now you don't actually have to prove that you're better than all these other teams. You can just say you were and you were wronged and now you can get any job that you want. For Marcus Freeman's agent, there is nothing short of winning the championship that would have been better than the position that he presently finds himself in. Which is all he had to do is the same thing Brian Kelly did. And he did that. And now at a ridiculously young age. He can have any job he wants without it being disproven against the best teams in the sport.

[Dan Le Batard]

But how much of a factor did getting to the national championship last year play in that? Like you think that if, if this didn't happen and he got to the playoffs and they lost in the first round.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm just saying. No, what I'm saying is the result of him not having to do anything other than say we were wrong is the best possible move that his agent would have wanted. If I gave him all the move short of winning the championship, that finishing second, this wouldn't have made him as coveted as what this makes him right now, where right now he can have any job that he wants. And what he's coming off of is there are no stains. You didn't beat anybody this year. You lost the two big games you had. But you, you can have any job in the sport that you presently want. I can't believe that the agent could have much better situations than that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, it may be also because he's available now to go talk to other people about jobs. Like last year, apparently he was really close to going to the NFL, but he refused to talk to people and they played until the end of January. Well, now we're at the beginning of December and like he's available.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, he's super coveted no matter what. Like if they make the playoffs and then lose in the first game. He's still a coveted coach.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think so.

[Mike Ryan]

But less coveted, is he? Yes. Yes. Less coveted than he is right now. Yes, right now. Right. Mike, you can tell us. You've been in the thick.

[Mike]

I've been reporting this one, so.

[Mike Ryan]

So he could have any job, correct?

[Mike]

Yeah. There's plenty of teams that are presently in the NFL playoff mix that are talking about having Marcus Freeman as their head coach. Jobs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dolphins should hire him.

[Mike]

Jobs that are not open. He can literally have his pick. There are entire divisions that want Marcus Freeman to be their next head coach.

[Dan Le Batard]

Name that division.

[Mike]

I'm not gonna do that. They have coaches, they have jobs, they have families. But Marcus Freeman can legitimately call his shot. And by the way, if you're calling your shot, the one that he's presently most linked to is a New York Giants job. I'm not going to tell you you're wrong.

[Chris]

This guy has too much.

[Mike]

Like that's a pretty good job.

[Chris]

Good looking, can get any job he wants. I mean, too much for Marcus Giants.

[Mike]

If you were to pick a job with that D line with neighbors with the Quarterback and dart with. We'll see where Scatter Boo is with ownership. You know, like, that's not a bad job. The market, if you were to pick them, but they're teams that are closer to super bowl ready, that want him to.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

He.

[Mike]

Absolutely. If he returns to Notre Dame, it'll be for both one of the top three salaries in the sport and because he genuinely loves Notre Dame. And he does. He loves Notre Dame.

[Dan Le Batard]

Does he genuinely love Notre Dame? If we're going to do this every year, where he may leave for the NFL, he may.

[Mike]

Dude, his. His stock will never be higher. I don't think. I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

But if he genuinely loves Notre Dame, you don't leave Notre Dame.

[Tony Koladiu]

Yeah, but you have leverage, though. Like, that's the whole game. Like, oh, I may go to the Giants. I may go here, I may go there. Oh, Notre Dame, you're giving me more money.

[Mike Ryan]

Perfect.

[Tony Koladiu]

I love that.

[Dan Le Batard]

So you believe he'll never leave then.

[Mike]

For an NFL job if he doesn't leave this year? I don't. I don't know if he ever will. He's still a young man, but I don't know if his stock is never going to be higher.

[Tony Koladiu]

I don't.

[Mike]

I don't see it ever being higher. And his agent may say, like, you know, your quarterback could tear his ACL next year and you won't have these opportunities. Like, these opportunities don't present themselves that often. Where every NFL team, we're talking blue blood franchises, want you as their head man, you could always go back to the college game. If you flame out in the NFL, you will always be a top candidate in the college ranks. If you flame out in the NFL.

[Chris]

Does he have any flaws? I mean, someone tell me a flaw. Marcus Freeman has hairline, might be receiving.

[Tony Koladiu]

Oh, does he lose bad teams often?

[Greg Cody]

A little bit, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Northern Illinois, September Marshall.

[Mike]

Northern Illinois, September football.

[Greg Cody]

Other than bad losses, no flaws.

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[Greg Cody]

Heard that as a woman faking pain, I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, it was not fake. It was in no way fake.

[Tony Koladiu]

You can spot a woman faking it, Stu.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, I can, Jess Expert. I've been married 40 years.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stun.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's, let's examine just for, for a quick second, though, the hypothetical of just how his agent is thinking. As someone who gets 5 to 10% of everything as Notre Dame is wronged, he's the one guy who's looking at everything and saying, this is totally good. We have time to interview. He can go and be just model esque, wandering around as spokesman and face for a team. He could look great. And there will be nothing that happens on the field that will affect this. There is nothing that will affect this the rest of the way. We've got months of Marcus Freeman just being glorious because he's never going to lose because he doesn't actually have to play in any of the games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Marcus Freeman doesn't even actually say to himself, I'm gonna make more money off is like, like just the agent says, okay, good, I'm going to make more money now because Notre Dame and my client were left out of the college wall playoffs. Me, agent guy, I'm going to make money.

[Mike]

I know he loves Notre Dame. We've mentioned that already. But I've also heard he wants to.

[Mike Ryan]

Be in the pros.

[Mike]

If everything was there and laid out in front of him and it was a good situation, he'd leave for that. And now we're finally starting to see it. Adam Schefter said he's going to be the Ben Johnson of this cycle. Diana Rossini reported the Giants level of interest. I've been telling you for months this day was coming. And basically all that needs to happen is Marcus Freeman telling his agent exactly where he wants to go.

[Greg Cody]

And nobody blames him if he goes to the NFL, because that's considered a step up no matter how much you love college football. Whereas if he goes, you don't think.

[Dan Le Batard]

Notre Fate, Notre Dame fans would be upset.

[Chris]

He could go to Michigan.

[Greg Cody]

I think if he. No, I disagree. I think if he goes to the NFL, South Bend goes. You know what? I see why he made that move. You guys do goes to another college. South Bend hates him.

[Mike Ryan]

You guys do understand, though, right, that if he played a game and lost by 20 to Lane Kiffin, it wouldn't be what it is now.

[Greg Cody]

I disagree.

[Mike]

One, disagree.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't agree.

[Mike]

I disagree. Like, he's got a track record there.

[Dan Le Batard]

He got the national championship last year.

[Mike]

I don't think. I don't think a playoff loss, especially since he made it to. With an injured team. He made it all the way to the championship game last year. I don't. I don't think it gets. If he loses to Miami again in the cfp. I don't. I don't see his stock.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you see the way he fills out that shirt.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm doing degrees, though. I'm doing degrees. This is as unblemished as it can be. You never actually have to prove it.

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

He's the most coveted. And you didn't win a championship. And you may not win a championship and you don't have to prove yourself.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

I know.

[Mike]

You're like a dog with a bone on this 1 0% change in that. They've been talking about Marcus Freeman and these jobs for weeks on end.

[Dan Le Batard]

But it is interesting what you're saying because you go back and consider all the hullabaloo around Lane Kiffin. Marcus Freeman got to the college football national championship game last year. Lane Kiffin has never been in the playoffs.

[Mike Ryan]

How did it go for you this week? And you fly out to see John Cena you fly out to see something that you expected to be. What? And how close did it come to meeting your expectations?

[Dan Le Batard]

We. Okay, first of all, we had a great time because we were at the center of what was a pop culture phenomenon over the weekend. And it was a wild scene before the show started outside, they had a whole fan fest kind of deal. They had their live studio broadcast and right outside Capitol arena, that was a whole scene. And we, we were so charged up and so excited. The crowd was so into it. I mean, Cena comes out for his entrance. It's his final entrance ever. The whole crowd is singing his entrance song. It. It was wild. We were. I was go.

[Mike Ryan]

Cena.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was. We, we were into.

[Chris]

What was your reaction to the finish?

[Tony Koladiu]

You cried.

[Jeremy Tachet]

You cried.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was.

[Jeremy Tachet]

Spoiler alert.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't ever accuse me.

[Tony Koladiu]

You were a sucker crying.

[Dan Le Batard]

I never cry. Look at his face right here.

[Jeremy Tachet]

What's wrong with crying?

[Chris]

A lot of people on the Internet seem to be a little underwhelmed. Spoiler alert. If you for some reason are going to watch this later.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, please.

[Chris]

He, he just kind of is choked out and just gives a smirk and then a tap.

[Dan Le Batard]

I had my, my hands on my head like this. When he tapped out, I was shook. I was. Even though, even though I knew he was going to lose, I was holding out hope that he was going to. And I really want him to win. I wanted the big celebration and the big pop and everybody to be so excited. Dan, the crowd want him to win so bad. But that doesn't happen in pro wrestling. When the great guy retires, you always lose.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. I'm a pro wrestling agnostic, so I have the vision.

[Dan Le Batard]

That means you don't believe in pro wrestling.

[Greg Cody]

I have the agnostic means. An atheist means I don't believe in it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

An agnostic means I'm not a huge fan.

[Jeremy Tachet]

You know it exists.

[Mike]

But you don't care.

[Greg Cody]

I, I don't particularly care. But here's the thing. And, and only I can say this. What happens is after an appropriate amount of time, retired 4 months, 5 months, John Cena comes back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

It's a big comeback, right. Not if he wins that. If he wins, he goes out on top of the stage is the script is he loses, he makes a big comeback. Big drag comeback. Over the summer, perhaps. Biggest thing in wrestling normally when a.

[Dan Le Batard]

All time great wrestler retires, they all say they're retiring or it's their final match, retirement match. And a few years later they always come back. That is not going to be the Case here.

[Greg Cody]

Why do you think? Why do you think not?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because his company, his whole deal, all right, is like, he's this really super clean cut guy and like honesty and loyalty and respect. That's a really big thing. It would literally be lying to everybody for an entire year. Because it's been a year long tour. You'll be lying to everyone for an entire year. People spent a ton of money to come see you on all these dates throughout the year. Not to mention how expensive the final.

[Mike Ryan]

Date says an alleged adult got on an airplane to go see this. Let's listen to a fan. I'm assuming this is a child.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God. This right after.

[Mike Ryan]

Now, Stan, this is actually a giant TOD Toddler. Let's listen to Zaz crashing out during the match.

[Dan Le Batard]

You tell me, what do you want me to do?

[Mike Ryan]

You tell me, nephew.

[Greg Cody]

It suck. No one likes you.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not true.

[Greg Cody]

You know what? You just came up the door. Everyone, take my hand. I dare you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I dare you.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm civilized.

[Greg Cody]

I dare you.

[Mike Ryan]

Take my hat. I dare you.

[Dan Le Batard]

The crowd was chanting fu. The cr. Heavy booze at the end of the match. Crowd was really angry.

[Chris]

Is that like a John Cena line? Take my hat. I dare you.

[Greg Cody]

Like, where'd that come from?

[Mike]

He's trying to make moment. They. They did the right thing for the business. They made Gunther like this big, huge heel. But I thought the show was a laborious watch. I can't even imagine having to be there. I'm sure you were getting.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, it was great being there. No, no, no. You know, drinks are flowing. It was great. It was great being there.

[Chris]

Well, you're there.

[Mike]

You got to see as part of the experience. That's all. Funny, the.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

The.

[Mike]

The people are really upset at Triple H for booking it that way. But for me, on the whole, they made a big deal of this retirement tour.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Mike]

They botched it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I understand people being upset. I do. I understand people being upset.

[Mike]

I'm not saying the ending. The ending is perfect. The way that the match unfolded, like, that's all kind of dandy. The business end of this. The failed heel run at the WrestleMania for his last WrestleMania. It was too TKO for me, and it felt like they just botched it.

[Dan Le Batard]

So, Greg, part of the reason or a major. The major part of the reason that the. The great wrestler loses in the final match, because you're supposed to give back. You're supposed to give it to the guy who beats you.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And so as a result, Gunther is now a monster heel.

[Greg Cody]

You know, what heel is Gunther Volkswagen?

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you know what Gunther is?

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Tony Koladiu]

He's right about that.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's. That. That's a bad guy. All right? So now Gunther is a monster heel. So check this out. We have video of this, all right, where Gunther, he has to be escorted to his bus after the match because look at the people. They're crowding him. They're chanting, you, Gunther. They're so angry. Look at. They're following him like they're going to attack him. The people are going to attack Gunther as he's walking. This is good for Gunther, though, right?

[Jeremy Tachet]

This is good for him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, it's amazing for Gunther.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm looking at Greg Cody, though, and he is barely concealing his disdain for your enthusiasm for this as an adult.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, first of all, people are going like this.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

What are they doing?

[Greg Cody]

They're marking my words. They're marking my words. It's only a matter of time before he makes his big comeback. And what I imagine. And I'm talking about all those people chasing him to his bus.

[Dan Le Batard]

Maniacs.

[Greg Cody]

Maniacs. Do those people not know the whole thing is scripted? Like, what is the attitude of a fan blaming Gunther?

[Dan Le Batard]

They don't care. They want to be happy, and they're happy. And you're going to win.

[Mike Ryan]

I feel your disdain, and I just would like it articulated because I see you, like, bemused by Zach.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think it's strange that I loved it, that I'm so invested in it?

[Greg Cody]

Of course.

[Mike Ryan]

That he would fly. They would fly to go see it.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. Spend actual money to go see something that isn't actually right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Before the show started, you could have sat ringside. $11,000, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, how about I give that money to charity instead of. Somebody else can go instead of me, because I would pay $11,000 charity not to be there.

[Mike]

It's like watching a play.

[Chris]

I mean, you put on a gala for a full family.

[Jeremy Tachet]

Pickums.

[Mike]

That's a good shout right there from Chris.

[Greg Cody]

A real league. I mean, it's.

[Mike]

It's literally a fantasy.

[Greg Cody]

No, it isn't.

[Mike]

It's a fantasy league.

[Greg Cody]

It's been in existence Since. Since late 60s.

[Mike]

It's real to you. Damn it.

[Greg Cody]

Look, more than real.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, there. There are. There are millions of people just like you who will frown on me for traveling and going to this kind of show. But I was at, like I said, what was a pop culture phenomena on Saturday night? Only 20,000 people in the world were there. I was one of those 20,000 people. Everyone was talking about it. That shit was Fun. Didn't get the ending that I wanted, of course, but that was a fun, fun night.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, well, good for you. I mean, and your analogy, Mike, about liking it to a play. I get that, you know, it's suspended belief, but is it suspended belief, though, when those people.

[Dan Le Batard]

Those people are maniacs.

[Greg Cody]

Okay?

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, was I one of those people? Was I. Was I booing at the end of the night?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because I'm not a major head.

[Tony Koladiu]

Yeah, you don't know.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

You don't know. You're crying.

[Dan Le Batard]

You were disappointed you were crying, right? You got to stop saying I was crying.

[Jeremy Tachet]

He cried.

[Mike]

That happens with scripted content all the time when there's a really unpopular death in the world. You watch Dead, it almost nukes the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Red Wedding, Game of Thrones. You weren't shook watching Red Wedding.

[Mike Ryan]

The thing that is different about wrestling than anything else in the history of. Let's just say espn.com is the scripted play never ends up as the fourth headline on espn.com between Mahomes out with an.

[Chris]

She would have it in Hamilton with it.

[Mike Ryan]

Mahomes out with a knee injury. Michael Parsons out for the. Out for the season. Cena submits for the first time ever in scripted content that was written by writers.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was. I was singing his theme when he came out. I was. I was charged up, man. I was.

[Chris]

I just can't believe when they're, like, going through all the possible endings to that match, they're like, you know how it's going to end? A smirk and a tap.

[Greg Cody]

And why is that, though? Because they're thinking down the road, am I the only one here who knows? Would bet on Cena coming out of retirement.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's do it. You know you would bet on it. I will bet it on that too, with you. I'll take the other side.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Greg Cody is taking both the ignorant and stubborn position of usually these guys do come back. But what he's saying is. So Cena is one of the few in the history of the sport. Even Hulk Hogan had a heel turn. But this guy's entire premise is I'm all American moral integrity guy.

[Greg Cody]

Funny. So I'm.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why is it funny? Why are you questioning Josh Integrity.

[Greg Cody]

Wait a minute. Let me get this straight. I'm taking the ignorant point of view, whereas the people chasing that guy to the bus, angry that he followed the script.

[Mike Ryan]

You're just taking the people are ignorant.

[Greg Cody]

I'm the ignorant.

[Mike Ryan]

There could be multiple ignorant people here, but you're being ignorant because you are not. You're just basically Using your viewpoint on old rock acts, old acts of all kind, they all come back. Yeah. It would be surprising if this one came back, because the entire construct. He's Olympic hero guy. He's guy who represents America.

[Chris]

Kurt Angle.

[Mike]

That's Kurt Angle.

[Dan Le Batard]

He would. If he comes back, he literally would have scammed paying customers.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, wow. Like that's never happened.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Like Mike Tyson coming back at age 56 is not scamming.

[Mike]

Gotta say, with Greg, you're saying Tyson.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Jim John Cena, same integrity.

[Mike]

I gotta side with Greg. If he's coming back. It's not like the fans are gonna be pissed off that lied to. They're gonna be thrilled to see him back. He put his sneakers on a ri. Odd season logo. Let's be real here. We all thought HBK was done. HBK came back.

[Mike Ryan]

So you would bet the way that Greg Cody does, you would bet that he will indeed.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm taking bets over guys.

[Chris]

He left his shoes in the ring. Isn't that a thing?

[Dan Le Batard]

Pick them up all the time. Right back after that. Yeah, it has happened.

[Mike]

I'm more inclined to believe what Zaz is saying, but. But him coming back would not surprise me because there have been plenty of people that said they would never do that.

[Greg Cody]

Right. Of course.

[Mike]

He was an ultimate Vince guy, though. So I just don't know how much he fits this incarnation of wwe.

[Greg Cody]

He ain't going out on the bottom, this guy. He's not going out with a loss. Trust me.

[Dan Le Batard]

They all go out on a loss, literally.

[Chris]

What happens to this guy?

[Mike]

Not taker.

[Greg Cody]

No, this guy. For. For reasons you mentioned. Pristine reputation. That guy goes out with a W. Hello. Exactly.

[Mike]

The World cup is coming back to North America for the first time since 1994. 48 teams, these giant stadiums, the whole continent turning into one massive party. I cannot wait. But actually getting tickets to any of this. Yeah, that part.

[Dan Le Batard]

Brutal.

[Mike]

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[Tony Koladiu]

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[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

To do this with us?

[Tony Koladiu]

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[Dan Le Batard]

I swear Don LeBatard, I've never stepped foot on that campus. I if you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just, just, just take a picture. Stugats. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

Couple of teams in the AFC that I believe are not being talked about enough because we. Segue spend so much time talking about the quarterbacks in that sport.

[Dan Le Batard]

So proud of himself. Look at him.

[Mike Ryan]

Just getting in my way and offering. The joke would have been transition. Yeah, yeah. Like that.

[Greg Cody]

Same thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, yeah, but the joke that the show makes is transition.

[Greg Cody]

Segue. Fancier word. Hop on it. Right down the sidewalk.

[Jeremy Tachet]

In Greg's defense, he is a writer still. And segue is a stronger word.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you.

[Jeremy Tachet]

Than transition.

[Greg Cody]

It really is. It's got a French flair to it. Go on, what were you saying? Something about non quarterbacks. We all want to talk about the NFL but not talk about quarterbacks. Start with a guard. Start with the backup safety. Who did you have in mind? Go on, Dan, it's your show.

[Mike Ryan]

The two teams that I was going to talk about that will excite no one when it comes to advancing. What are you laughing?

[Tony Koladiu]

Are you sure? Nobody. I'm excited already.

[Mike Ryan]

What are you laughing? What are you laughing about?

[Greg Cody]

You're teasing what you're about to say by saying the two teams I'm about to talk about that no one will be interested.

[Mike Ryan]

The reason I'm saying it is because if they get to the super bowl, people are going to be mad. That defense is what got to the Super Bowl. It's Houston and the Chargers. Yes, Houston, Houston and the Chargers. Getting to the super bowl will be unappetizing to everyone who's listening to this because it's great defense that's getting you there. And at the end of yesterday's Chiefs Chargers game, did you guys see. So Tony Jefferson is a lifelong nomad. He's played for 10 years in the league. He's had four interceptions before this year. He's got four interceptions this year. He's been a healthy scratch three times this season, but still is just crushing people. Like physically is somebody who is hitting everybody. And he's got four interceptions. And then he gets ejected from yesterday's game late because he's doing obscene gesture. I didn't see the obscene gesture, but there's only one he can be doing, right. It's only middle fingers. It's Pavia in the club in New York. When I say obscene gesture, is there a second you guys aren't doing any of the other obscene gestures except for middle finger, right? Because I'm reading the story. I haven't seen the video. And when it says obscene gesture, all I've got is middle finger. There's no other Gesture. You're getting ejected for.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

Dan.

[Tony Koladiu]

The obscene gesture that he was. That he did was a palo Cadio Taekwond Thornton. Because that was.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it was a legal hit. And. And Harbaugh said after the game, all I've seen is good football out there from that guy.

[Tony Koladiu]

Preach.

[Mike Ryan]

Because he just crushes people. Chris Cody is doing what? Who invented this gesture? The running the back of your hand against the bottom? Marlon Brando as a gesture. I thought it was the Italians. I thought that, like, bleep off.

[Chris]

Right?

[Tony Koladiu]

That's how I. Brandos is more of, like a scratch than, like, the full way. You know?

[Mike]

I wasn't offering up a sincere guess.

[Tony Koladiu]

When you say something, I think you're doing a thing.

[Mike Ryan]

I like somebody, though. I like a referee. Having to make a decision as a guy does. Does this going off of the field. Is that obscene enough to eject a football player?

[Tony Koladiu]

You have the face mask in the way, too, so you can't really go the full.

[Mike]

You're doing it the Italian way. I like to do it the Michael Jackson way.

[Greg Cody]

Plus, what if the obscene gesture isn't a full bird? It's just like a half knuckle.

[Mike Ryan]

That's not obscene.

[Tony Koladiu]

It's not a bird.

[Mike Ryan]

That's not obscure.

[Chris]

I gotta see a nail or else.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you ever do it when, like, you. You have the other fingers bent? If I go like this, you know, like.

[Mike]

Like.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Wing. That's how it was. Yes. We.

[Greg Cody]

This.

[Mike Ryan]

Kickstands.

[Greg Cody]

Kickstands. I used to do that when I.

[Tony Koladiu]

Why are your fingers so weird?

[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

Yeah.

[Tony Koladiu]

You can't. You can't put your fingers out like that. In the middle finger. What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Great thing.

[Tony Koladiu]

It looked like you were trying to do it, like, hard, and it wasn't.

[Mike]

Working through the West Coast.

[Tony Koladiu]

Can you do that again?

[Dan Le Batard]

Do West Coast.

[Mike]

Can you do.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look at this time.

[Mike]

Don't you do the Vader time, Spock. Vader time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you do this?

[Mike Ryan]

Jeremy, look. Look up for me one Bud Adams. I believe at the time he was the owner of the Oilers. He was wearing a blue leisure suit, and he got fined four middle fingers. That I believe he did old man style. No kickstands. Just straight up two middle fingers to the crowd with no kickstands. I need no kickstands.

[Tony Koladiu]

Thumbs were tucked in.

[Mike Ryan]

Huh? It was just two middle fingers. They were flying naked. They had no. They had no support for him.

[Chris]

He's right.

[Mike Ryan]

It was just old man shit. And it was a blue leisure suit.

[Jeremy Tachet]

And with championship rings on each ring finger.

[Chris]

Ooh.

[Greg Cody]

Ooh. That's boss right there.

[Mike Ryan]

There is no other obscene gesture, though, right? If I do one hand, you could grab the package.

[Tony Koladiu]

That's an obscene gesture.

[Chris]

We can find a few.

[Mike]

Like one of these right here.

[Mike Ryan]

The grabbing of the packages and obscene gesture. I don't think that one gets him ejected. Do you think. How afraid do you think that one gets him ejected?

[Tony Koladiu]

Do you think anybody does that anymore?

[Mike Ryan]

Do you think that gets someone doing this? Okay, so that, for the audio audience, is just basically slapping below your bicep to kick up the other arm halfway. It's not a middle finger. It's just basically, I'm doing my whole forearm as a middle.

[Chris]

I mean, it wants to be a middle finger. That's what that's birthed from.

[Mike]

You can also do the wanker. That's more of an insult in Europe.

[Dan Le Batard]

How you do that.

[Mike]

Not gonna do that.

[Jeremy Tachet]

This was 2009. He was fined $250,000. He was 86 years old when he.

[Dan Le Batard]

Did this, so 125.

[Mike Ryan]

A bird. I think middle finger is the only obscene gesture. What about this hall of Famer?

[Dan Le Batard]

Nanny nanny boo Boo.

[Mike]

Yeah, what about a Nanny nanny Boo Boo?

[Chevrolet Announcer]

You put, like, the.

[Chris]

The moose antlers, like.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

Yeah, that.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the same family of garbage. There's only one. One first ballot. Obscene gesture hall of Famer. Right? First ballot. Grabbing the package is not first ballot.

[Chris]

No. Grabbing the package, first ballot.

[Greg Cody]

No Joe Maurer.

[Mike Ryan]

Who's.

[Greg Cody]

Who.

[Mike Ryan]

Who are you giving obscene gesture first. First ballot status. Other than the middle finger.

[Greg Cody]

What I grew up calling the bird.

[Mike Ryan]

That's it.

[Greg Cody]

That's it.

[Mike Ryan]

So it's not even a Hall of Fame. It's not really actually an entire museum. It's basically just one exhibit. It's. It's Bud Adams middle finger. No kickstand. That's the only thing in that hall of Fame.

[Greg Cody]

It' called the Bird hall of Fame. Okay, the bird is the word. And then.

[Mike]

This is very myopic. You guys have clearly never seen Liam Gallagher enter or exit a room.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to segue again here to an accusation against Zaslow. I read Awful Announcing, did a list of the best and worst local NFL announcers. But you laugh. Here's the accusation. You be careful, because the accusation's headed your way. I believe that Zaslow voted on this and was quoted in this article disparaging the Miami Dolphins local broadcasting team, making them rank last among all NFL broadcasters.

[Dan Le Batard]

How could I have made them rank last?

[Mike Ryan]

I think that I saw some quotes in there that read like, things I've heard You say yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so they're ranked last. Yes, they were ranked 32nd on all phone announcing's local broadcasts for the NFL. And you're telling me whoever a broadcast that was ranked dead last, I would be the only one who would say certain things?

[Mike Ryan]

Not, not you're the only one. But they, they had 93 votes. 16 D's as a grade, 17 F's. And I believe you were one of the F's. And I believe you were quoted in the article. Tell me I'm wrong. Wrong.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to tell you. I will. I'm not copying to that at all. I'm not going to confirm or deny.

[Greg Cody]

Awkward denial.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I just, I don't know. There's no proof.

[Mike Ryan]

It's good.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's no proof of that.

[Mike Ryan]

It sounded a lot like.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, what sounded like me?

[Tony Koladiu]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Which one sound like you're just really.

[Mike Ryan]

Close to going happen to know on that.

[Dan Le Batard]

What did it say?

[Greg Cody]

What was the quote?

[Dan Le Batard]

What'd it say? Yeah, what say? What'd it say?

[Greg Cody]

I want to know the quote. Vote.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, probably damning if, if you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put a vote in front of me right now vote on the Dolphins broadcast abcdrf. I'm obviously giving it an F. I mean. Yeah, obviously. And clearly I was not the only one. It was ranked last. A lot of people gave it F.

[Greg Cody]

So you are admitting you gave it.

[Dan Le Batard]

An F. Oh, no, I'm not into anything. I'm saying if you ask me right no, if you ask me right now, what would my vote be?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I'd give an F. Yeah, but you didn't then. But you would know.

[Mike Ryan]

I want you guys to keep an eye on him and see how incriminating this is to just look at his face because I've got to read from this article and you guys just look at him and tell me whether or not it gives you a glimpse of incrimination here. Okay. Cephalo is, quote, the worst in the business for the last 20 years. He's been doing play by play for years and never gets any better. Cephalo is a horrible play by play guy. Makes way too many mistakes. I feel bad for Joe Rose. He's good. It's good.

[Tony Koladiu]

Big dog.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you guys think? Anything? Did you guys see anything there that would suggest strong poker face right now? Zaslo has I.

[Tony Koladiu]

Have I. You read that? I'm gonna read you one up and see. I feel like I have heard Zaz say this on this show. Okay. He's been doing playbook for Years and never gets any better. He has a horrible play by play guy makes mistakes and you don't know what he's gonna say. But the rest of the broadcast is useless. 0 idea what's going on. Not a talk show. But they sound like it didn't even.

[Dan Le Batard]

Move a muscle in his face for the last two minutes. That's a poker face right there. Destroy all your poker.

[Tony Koladiu]

There were also remarks going after their perceived homerism, including their play by play is abysmal and boring. The analysis, 100% homerism. Which is fine, except they're not very good at it, which is what they're hired to do. Excite and inform the fan base.

[Dan Le Batard]

Listen, are. Are all of those things the way that I feel? Yes, they are.

[Greg Cody]

Wow. What do you got against Cephalo? Did sounds personal.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it's not personal. He's a terrible broadcaster.

[Greg Cody]

Funny. Who said that?

[Dan Le Batard]

I just, I just, I just like how you think that I had control of like the entire like, I put them last.

[Greg Cody]

It's Mike on Mike crime. You know, you're both leaning into a microphone for a living. You're supposed to be publicly not brutal.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't know that.

[Mike]

It wasn't publicly brutal. That was private. Off the record. Well, on the record, but anonymous.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Tony Koladiu]

Coward.

[Dan Le Batard]

I admit to nothing.

[Mike Ryan]

But you deny nothing as well.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will not confirm or deny.

[Tony Koladiu]

Zaz, wasn't there a play that Jimmy had the call on that something weird happened in the game and you said you couldn't understand what was going on. There was a pick, but there was a fumble.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every play.

[Tony Koladiu]

Oh, every play.

[Mike Ryan]

The Minka Fitzpatrick two point conversion. I was in the car listening to that and I had no idea what I did. I had no idea what happened, what was going on. I was just generally confused. I'm just staring at my radio and.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm like, so last week, a few days ago, was like seven years. Maybe it was for the Miracle in Miami.

[Coach O (Ed Orgeron)]

The.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah. Gronkowski doesn't have the angle, you know, and Ken and Drake scores the touchdown. And so on one of these videos on Twitter, like they attached the Dolphins radio call to it and it's an incredibly exciting play. I mean it was a movie. It's called Miracle in Miami. All right. Cephalo didn't tell you what was going on until Kenny and Drake was at the 10 yard line.