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Mike Ryan
Juju. Put it on the poll, please. Should there be a national chicken finger day at LeBatard show? Did you guys see the story?
Stugotz
Dan, huge news. This will make you feel good.
Mike Ryan
I can't see you though. Can you put some lights on in there? Can you put your phone?
Stugotz
Pretty good year. He played so much. Chris Paul has signed a deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, the team he's probably most associated with, and that will be where he ends his career. So it's a, it's a feel good story there.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Stugotz
And Clippers, I like what they're doing. Outside of trading that Storm Powell for nothing. I like them. They're gonna be, they're gonna be prominent in that west.
Mike Ryan
What is the better feel good story? Chris Paul to the Clippers or Damian Lillard back to the Portland Trailblazers?
Billy Corben
Chris Paul.
Stugotz
Dan, I'm sorry. Never stops. It seems as though, and this is big. It seems as though the president has turned the temperature down on the discourse. Tweeting. The President should not be telling the Washington football team to change their name or country as far bigger problems focus on them, not nonsense.
Billy Corben
Wow, that's big news.
Stugotz
I'm sorry, that. That Tweet was from October 8, 2013, from Donald Trump's Twitter account. Sorry, the new algorithm makes it difficult to tell when these things were published. But that was indeed a real tweet from October 8, 2013. 22 years.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, gotcha. Inconsistent. Hypocritical. You don't say. The Oakmont Country Club banned wyndham Clark. I'd like to see what the damage.
Stugotz
And an exclusive report. Cavender twins got new boobs.
Billy Corben
Hey.
Stugotz
Chasing this story for a very long time. I stand by my reporting. Verified with multiple sources.
Billy Corben
Thank God for that same size.
Greg Cody
Valid question.
Mike Ryan
Greg Cody. You should have heard Greg Cody during the break talking about strip clubs. This story confused him so much. The story with Lloyd Howell, it felt like Greg Cody spent the entire break telling me, hey, man, I don't have any moral objections to strip clubs. This person would not have been fired if he had gone just to a strip club. And you're right about that. But I would say to you, if he was unfortunate enough to get caught on the car service the one time that he did it, I imagine the players would be really upset to see that he was spending the union's money that way. And Greg was saying, well, they go to strip clubs. Yeah, but they don't use the union's money to do it.
Dan Le Batard
They would if they could, though.
Billy Corben
Probably.
Greg Cody
And he could.
Mike Ryan
He could and he couldn't. And he shouldn't.
Billy Corben
I just think you're imagining outrage from players who go to strip clubs and spend $2,000 on a bottle and don't even think about it. Yes, ideally, the guy running their union shouldn't do that. But as I said before, the strip club controversy alone doesn't matter unless it's preceded by what Pablo reported. Unless it's about to be followed by.
Mike Ryan
A bombshell, I don't think it doesn't matter at all. It probably wouldn't get him fired. But I do think again, I'm going to go back to Damor Smith. The role is not. Look at me. The role is not. You get to spend all the money and have all the fun with the unions money.
Billy Corben
Like, I agree with that.
Mike Ryan
You're representing a body of labor that wants you to use that money to protect and work on behalf of that body of labor in a way that is streamlined and efficient and responsible.
Dan Le Batard
But I mean, if he's going to a meeting there, he's not going to show up in his Kia Carnival, you know, like, he has to look the part for the meeting he's attending.
Mike Ryan
But it wasn't a limo. It was a sedan. Like, it was there for eight hours. It was $700 because he was there all night.
Stugotz
Someone had to watch the bags, Dan.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, straight from the airport.
Dan Le Batard
I would think that the players probably spend that on car services regularly and don't really bat an eye at that being like a crazy expense.
Stugotz
Again, do they get to submit an expense report again.
Mike Ryan
You guys are like. Like. I'm not objecting to the strip clubs. I'm objecting to this person' position and how he was spending money that's not his money, that's not earned by him.
Stugotz
Yeah, but have you ever been?
Mike Ryan
I have not.
Stugotz
To this one.
Mike Ryan
I have not. I have not been to Tootsies.
Billy Corben
I see the billboard every day. Looks pretty tempting.
Mike Ryan
A billboard I see all the time, every day around here is that Theranos. Elizabeth Holmes is making a comeback. How is it that she got the kind of money to make her way back into the game with billboards all over Miami? And you know who I'm talking about, right? Elizabeth. Elizabeth Holmes. The fraudster who said she could do something with a droplet of blood.
Stugotz
A fraudster finding success in this climate. I refuse.
Mike Ryan
No. But a return. I don't. I just don't really. I don't understand how much money she's spending locally or why. I don't understand how that's. How that's come about. But the story I was mentioning, Oakmont Country Club has banned Wyndham Clark because during the US Opener, he came back to the clubhouse and he destroyed the locker room. I do not know the extension, the extent of the damages, but what they have said lifts the ban. And I'm curious what you guys think about this and what questions you have about this. That if he ever wants to play Oakmont again, he has to pay damages, he has to make a sizable charitable contribution, and he has to go to counseling and anger management. What questions do you have on this story? And what do you think about Oakmont, a country club that is exclusive, banning a professional golfer who's gonna want to play the US Open? I will offer you one detail that's interesting here. The US Open isn't back there until 2033, so the ban is for eight. He's got to do all of these things within eight years. But if. If the ban holds, then he can't play in the US Open. And so what does he do?
Billy Corben
I wouldn't do any of that stuff. I would stand on principle and just go like this to Oakmont. Look, he's Wyndham Clark, okay? He's a nice guy. You tell him he's nobody special. If this is Scotty Scheffler today or Tiger woods back in the day, Oakman is saying, gee, we hope you didn't hurt your hand ruining our locker room.
Stugotz
Those lockers were very, very old. I mean, they were a piece of history.
Mike Ryan
Can you Guys, look up for me. See if you can find any details on how bad the damages were. Like, how would you feel about a country club telling you you got to do all these things if you're an emotional athlete who just wrecked? Like, obviously, you should pay for the damages, but the idea that you need psychological counseling is aggressive.
Greg Cody
For you guys to tell me that, right? So you want me to pay the sizable. Okay, that's just money. You want me to refix the locker room or whatever, but you want me to go to counseling. You want me, you know, you want me to tell you where I want you to go. Straight to hell. You want me to go to counseling, you guys go to hell.
Stugotz
Charitable donation, too. I'm familiar with this grift off of local private schools down here. We'll consider your child for a small donation. I don't need. Thank you. Public schools are fine where I'm at.
Mike Ryan
They weren't saying a small donation. They. They. I may have that quote wrong. Look, fine for me. What the quote is. It's a word like sizable. It's not allowed to be a small donation.
Stugotz
Hopefully it's not to a presidential library that's going around for you.
Dan Le Batard
The renderings of that. It looks like it's going to replace this building.
Stugotz
The presidential library?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. Like, I mean, I see it's, like, right across from the Freedom Tower. Like, they're knocking down this building and building a presidential library here. Because, like, that. That would kind of be funny, Dan. If they knocked down your studio to build the Trump library here, may every.
Mike Ryan
Day be another wonderful secret.
Dan Le Batard
What does that mean? What do you know?
Mike Ryan
No, what it means is that's what Trump wrote on the alleged letter. It's just that last word is just such a damning, crazy word. That's not an expression any of you have ever said in your life. Put on the poll at Lebatard show. Have you ever written to anyone, anyone in your life? May every day be another wonderful secret. Like, to use the word secret on Epstein is such a damning word that.
Stugotz
Actually galvanized his base a little bit because they're like, he doesn't speak like this at all. Which I have to remind people. This was, like, 20 years ago. You watch videos of him from 2016, but it does sound like a dumb person trying to sound smart. I see that. I'm like, yeah, that actually sounds exactly like him, Dan.
Greg Cody
Meaningful was the word that they used. So a meaningful contribution to a charity of the board's choosing.
Mike Ryan
What does that mean? What do you guys think? Of a number. When you think of meaningful, I thought sizable is what's worse.
Greg Cody
Sizable or meaningful?
Mike Ryan
I think sizable. Sizable is different than meaningful. But I don't know what meaningful is.
Stugotz
I can donate my time. Meaningful. Meaningful donation. Well, here's my time.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
It's pretty sanctimonious of a country club though, to say you need anger management. For what? Didn't they just showed us?
Greg Cody
I saw pictures.
Stugotz
They are Oakmont. There's nothing to sneeze at.
Billy Corben
It's so ridiculous, the whole thing. Windom Clark should take the offensive here. He should say this is absurd. I'll write a couple of checks. I did the damage, but you're telling me I got to go to counseling. That's over the top. You shouldn't. You don't have the right to do that. You don't have the right to tell anyone they have to go to counseling because I had one bad day in frustration and threw a fist at a locker.
Greg Cody
Instead of paying to fix these lockers, I'll do a little diy. Bring my buddy. We take my deal and we get the other side.
Stugotz
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Greg Cody
Close it up.
Stugotz
Boom, boom, boom.
Greg Cody
Close it up.
Stugotz
We're done.
Mike Ryan
Come on, you guys. Look at this. This is $229 that he's got to.
Greg Cody
Mateo in the back. Not even $229, Dan. That's. That's it.
Dan Le Batard
I though right? Is that wicker?
Stugotz
Yeah.
Greg Cody
Let's do with a softer like a rubber mallet instead.
Mike Ryan
Is that rattan?
Dan Le Batard
Rattan?
Mike Ryan
Is rattan shank still around? There can't be a.
Stugotz
Those had a high sentimental value though, because they're very old lockers. I think part of the original build, which is why you don't break. Yeah. You don't just get your deal over. You can't find the new parts. There are no new parts.
Dan Le Batard
You can't.
Greg Cody
You know what the part is A nail.
Dan Le Batard
You know what I saw the other day, Tony? Because we were talking about this a couple years ago, Dan. It's been years now. Do you remember we were talking about the AAA over there and how much it's going to cost to take the FTX letters off of that roof? I was up like, higher up on the screen.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, they took them.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but this, the, like infrastructure is still there. They left half of that crap still on that roof. I'm taking that off unfinished.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
I mean, that first sip of a Miller Light at the barbecue on a hot day, crack it open. That sound feeling's better.
Stugotz
That sound ultra satisfying. And then that first sip, it hits. And yes, while it's hot outside as it is presently, it cools your body down. It hits a little different down here in South Florida, but as someone that had Miller Lite north of the border and basically football tailgates as the leaves turn, there really isn't a bad time to turn into Miller time.
Dan Le Batard
Next time we should do a top five times to have Miller time.
Stugotz
I like where your head's at because it's every time. That's right, every time. Morning time. Well, scratch that now. Morning time. Morning time. If you're on vacation, if you're on vacation, you're on vacation.
Mike Ryan
If you're at a morning tailgate, there's a noon game.
Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Billy Corben
Sending a password to WhatsApp, it's all just this.
Stugotz
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Billy Corben
In the family chat or trading those late night voice messages that could basically.
Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Billy Corben
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Greg Cody
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Billy Corben
Who was out swimming with her friends is believed to have Been swallowed whole by a 13 foot shark without any of her friends noticing. That's the weirdest part about that story. You're swimming with friends, you're having a good time, and then all of a sudden people are looking around go, where's Shelly? Like, nobody screamed.
Dan Le Batard
Every friend group has a Shelly, though, that if they go missing because a shark ate them whole, you wouldn't notice. Classic Shelly. Exactly right.
Billy Corben
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
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Billy Corben
She went quietly, apparently. If I'm swallowed whole by a shark, you're gonna know it.
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Rattan shack is still open in Hialeah.
Mike Ryan
There's just one. Is there one in the United States? A single rattan shack? There can't be very many, but rattan is backjack. The put it on the poll at Lebatard show is rattan backjack. I'm at the arena, though. I don't know if you guys have ever seen this when you have these. The penthouses in South Florida, I think South Florida still. Even though there's been a housing collapse, I think we're still the least affordable housing market in the United States. But the penthouses around South Florida are obviously super expensive. And you will occasionally see a helicopter coming in and bringing in furniture like pianos or whatever, because you can't get it up through the elevator. And so you have to fly in the furniture and put it from on top. The things that you're talking about that were on the Kasiah center were so heavy that I would have liked to have seen how they got it out of there.
Dan Le Batard
Because easy peasy, bro. You cut that into little bits. You put one of those things on the side of the building. That's like a garbage.
Greg Cody
They pay. How much did they pay, Billy?
Dan Le Batard
Dude, Millions.
Greg Cody
Remember, we talked. We do it for like half.
Dan Le Batard
I'm still saying I can fix the roof of the truck. Like, I'm still in business for that. I don't think that they fixed that yet.
Greg Cody
That's right.
Dan Le Batard
What are they here?
Billy Corben
What did they do with the letters? Can I buy a giant fish? I'm serious. What do they do with those letters?
Dan Le Batard
What would you do with that letter? Just out of curiosity, if they bought the giant F. Yeah.
Billy Corben
I might buy an X. I don't know.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. And do what with it, though?
Billy Corben
Or in my backyard? You know, I call it sculpture.
Dan Le Batard
So I was talking yesterday. We were at the Marlins game. I told you that earlier. And I was talking to my wife and my family, and I saw the pitch clock. We Were right by the section with the pitch clock. And it looks tiny on tv, but it was massive. And I was like, if I took this pitch clock and put it in my living room, it would probably take up nearly the entire wall. And then for some reason, I started thinking, I don't know if you guys have done this. And it was inspired by Bad Bunny. Have you ever guys thought, I don't know if you've seen his concert layout. Bad Bunny, it's like his house and then he's singing on, like, the patio or whatever. Have you ever guys, like, gone to a game and considered, if my house was in the middle of this field, what would it look like? Because I don't. I think my house would fit in the middle of the infield. And then I just have a massive yard. Like, I'd see how tiny my house actually is if I just dropped it in the middle of the field. Imagine. It'd be funny if you're just playing and all of a sudden, hey, who put my house there? Game goes on like MTV Rock N Jock back in the day, you know.
Mike Ryan
It doesn't appear to me that anyone has had that thought.
Dan Le Batard
They will now.
Billy Corben
No, I haven't either.
Stugotz
Put in the outfield.
Billy Corben
Here's another thought. Mustn't Bad Bunny's dad, Bad Rabbit, be extremely proud of that man? He is.
Dan Le Batard
Bark said that his house is missing.
Billy Corben
What a career he's had.
Mike Ryan
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is bad Bunny's dad, Bad Rabbit really proud of him at LE X?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I thought you wanted the F. You.
Billy Corben
Wanted the F. I. I'm. I'm coming around on the X.
Dan Le Batard
Not the T, though.
Mike Ryan
What about the letters in Arena? You don't want any of those. The letters in Arena.
Billy Corben
No, it's just the X Rattan Shack.
Stugotz
Has merged with All Weather Patio. And they have two locations.
Greg Cody
One in Hialeah, the other one in Sunrise.
Billy Corben
Wow. What about rival Rattan Depot? Are they worried about that?
Stugotz
Good gosh.
Billy Corben
I'll look it up. Okay.
Mike Ryan
You don't need to, Roy. He's making that up because he's toward the end of the show, and that's when we get a high amount of bad jokes. Is later in the show when he's a little.
Dan Le Batard
He's locked in, though, because we haven't mentioned the Greg Cody show yet.
Billy Corben
Yeah, well, you know, I keep waiting.
Mike Ryan
The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody has something special in it this week, does it not?
Billy Corben
Yeah, we always do. But this week we have a new occasional segment called get to Know youw, Greg. And we, we took a handful of listener questions and, and they were more serious and, and better questions than I would have imagined. And some of my answers were surprisingly personal and dare say, poignant. So that's a segment of the episode that I'm pretty proud of. Book news. I mentioned what. I broke the news on this show, but I mentioned that in my podcast as well about the pride of a lion. And then we have Chris Cody exclusively from a Las Vegas restroom. So that's a good segment as well. A restroom. Yeah.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I saw the social club. He had sunglasses on. So I wonder.
Billy Corben
Yeah, the state of it could be a hangover. And now that you mentioned it or.
Mike Ryan
On the way up, where'd he learn that from?
Stugotz
Hereditary.
Billy Corben
I don't wear sunglasses.
Mike Ryan
The hangover is what I was.
Greg Cody
Greg accepts his hangover, though he doesn't try to mask it.
Billy Corben
Right.
Greg Cody
It's like, hey, I. I paid for this right here.
Billy Corben
I mean, I haven't had any alcohol to drink in four or five hours.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Billy Corben
Don't worry about me.
Mike Ryan
Your other arm is bleeding.
Billy Corben
No, it isn't.
Mike Ryan
No, no.
Billy Corben
Liar. What are you. What a liar. You got me worried now.
Stugotz
Or the balms.
Mike Ryan
I don't understand why you got us worried. I don't know why your first arm was.
Billy Corben
Well, I would, I would lower my sleeves, but it's like 140° in here.
Mike Ryan
Did you guys. I. I saw a story this weekend that I didn't think was possible. And I don't know if you guys saw it or if anyone listening to this thought, what I'm about to say is possible. What happened to a 61 year old man who was wearing a thick chain at an mri?
Stugotz
Yeah, yeah, I saw this story.
Mike Ryan
He died. He died. It's a giant magnet and he must have been asphyxiated, I guess. But I had no idea that you could die in an mri. I know they tell you to take your jewelry off and everything else for a reason, but that your chain would be so big and thick that a 61 year old man could die, that I can't even imagine how horrific a death that has to be because nobody can break the chain and you can't get out from under. I had no idea that was a thing that could be possible.
Stugotz
Agreed. Bad way to go.
Mike Ryan
But did you guys know that was possible?
Stugotz
I mean, I mean, I.
Greg Cody
It's powerful.
Stugotz
Was that in a Final destination?
Greg Cody
That are 100, a thousand and one ways to die.
Mike Ryan
I felt like saw.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
No one could kick out the plug. Like from a wall?
Greg Cody
I was gonna say if you unplug it, then.
Stugotz
Yeah, that whole industry, I don't trust it. Like, oh, no, it's totally safe. And then they just run out of the room.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Greg Cody
Then they put that little vest on you and you're like, what is this supposed to do? And they're like, no, you're all good.
Mike Ryan
Oh, good.
Greg Cody
Over my. My balls.
Stugotz
Don't worry, you're good. I'm just gonna go hop across this aisle over there and. Bulletproof doors.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Juju, put it on the poll, please. We got a lot of polls today. Do you do an MRI comfortably ever?
Greg Cody
Because have you been in one, Dan?
Mike Ryan
I have been extremely tight.
Stugotz
I'm just. The entire time, I'm like, don't get a boner. Don't get a boner. Don't get a boner. Don't get a boner. Wait, why tell you not to get a boner?
Dan Le Batard
They do.
Stugotz
Is that just me?
Dan Le Batard
That's never come up.
Billy Corben
They do not.
Stugotz
Never with me either.
Dan Le Batard
Why do they tell you that?
Stugotz
Because it's tight.
Greg Cody
They have you tighten that thing, but.
Dan Le Batard
It'S made of metal.
Stugotz
I don't know.
Mike Ryan
It's not that tight and it's not that big.
Billy Corben
Could be made out of metal.
Dan Le Batard
Gotta go for an open mri.
Stugotz
Yeah. If you can, those are fine. I think you can. You're free to get a boner there.
Mike Ryan
No, they're about the same, except towards your head. They're a little more open, but they're not real open. Like I asked for one of those and it was still like. Obviously claustrophobia is something that a lot of people feel. But my particular mri, the last one, they make it very comfortable because you can watch something on television right above you, and so it makes it easier. But even in an open. Open toward the head mri, which is the only kind I'm willing to do, it requires some work from me to not feel so uncomfortable that I want out. Like I have to. I have to control my breathing and sort of be regimented about. Look, a of people come here. Nobody ever dies with a chain. Nobody ever dies. But the fear is such that I don't open my eyes. I didn't even watch the television cuz I didn't wanna know how tight it actually is. Cuz I'm not small and that opening is. And so. But even with. Even with, though what I'm saying, when you say you gotta do an open one, I go into the open one like I request. I said I went months later. Than I needed to. Cuz everybody wants the open one. And I get to the open one, I'm like, this is the open?
Greg Cody
Yeah, look at the opening right there.
Billy Corben
Like, whoa.
Mike Ryan
This does not feel like the open one.
Stugotz
Hop in and don't get a boner.
Mike Ryan
But none of you knew that someone could die like that.
Stugotz
There gotta be some other factors here. The age probably being one. I don't know if he's out there with a Cuban link, but I gotta see how this happens. Very clearly a systematic breakdown. Number one, he was able to wear the jewelry in the first place. I'm sure someone was within earshot. How quick did this happen?
Mike Ryan
I've got questions. Please do some of the reporting because I'm busy doing a show and I'm.
Stugotz
On the Cavender beat. I'm sorry, this is Pablo's.
Billy Corben
I can tell you that the guy reportedly was not a patient there, did not have an appointment and sort of just walked in and snuck in. And no one was even allowed to say, hey, take off that big chain. Watch out. You know, he just. He just literally walked in. So. You know, I hate to say it, but he. It sounds as if he might have brought on his own demise.
Mike Ryan
You didn't hate to say it because you didn't have to say it.
Billy Corben
I regretted saying it.
Stugotz
It's a sad story.
Billy Corben
It is a sad story.
Mike Ryan
You didn't have to say. You could have stopped it. I hate to say it.
Billy Corben
Well, you know, the first thing I did was imagine how many 61 year olds are wearing gigantic gold chains. Probably not many, but after that I did hate to say it because I, you know, I don't like the untimely death of anyone. Except my mortal enemies.
Stugotz
Right.
Mike Ryan
Who are your mortal enemies?
Billy Corben
You know, Hitler. I wouldn't have mind seeing his demise. Might have spit on his grave. It's about it.
Stugotz
That's Dave Hyde.
Billy Corben
Well, that's.
Mike Ryan
I was going to say Charles Bricker. Yeah, Charles Bricker.
Billy Corben
Not Hyde. No, Dave and I are. Okay.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no. Dante. Armando Salgaro.
Billy Corben
No, I'm just kidding. Love you, Armando.
Stugotz
Don Leardard.
Mike Ryan
Billy. Somebody has written in here. I need way more.
Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry, I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them too?
Billy Corben
It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad. Totally on me. That's 100 on me.
Mike Ryan
All right, St.
Billy Corben
But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't happen.
Dan Le Batard
Well, now he said it, didn't. He didn't say it again.
Mike Ryan
Greg.
Billy Corben
My apologies, Greg.
Mike Ryan
Why Greg? Yeah, Greg. He apologized, Craig, sincerely.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Stugotz
Dan, with your setup, I thought you were going to talk about the big combat sport news that happened over the weekend.
Mike Ryan
I've got a couple of things on that I wanted to talk about. One of the things though, before that was I was really rooting for Pacquiao this, this weekend. He was, he was winning after 10 rounds. And what happened is age at the end of that fight, he just got.
Stugotz
Tired of all the fight cards to lead off with the Pacquiao. I mean, it was a great weekend in the fight game.
Mike Ryan
He would have been welterweight champion again at 46 and he was up after 10 rounds. But no, of course, Jake Paul announcing and I'd like to see what some of the reports are on this. Now, Greg, I don't know if you're familiar with Anthony Joshua, but I'm not joking when I said that before Tyson Fury made his appearance, Anthony Joshua I thought was going to be the future of the sport. I thought that him and Wilder was going to be a heavyweight fight for the ages. And now it appears that Usyk is an all timer instead. But when I hear that Jake Paul is fighting Anthony Joshua, I'm like, that's crazy. He's got no chance in that fight. Like he's gonna get knocked out, he's gonna get hurt. That's a legitimate heavyweight. He's not even in that weight class. Do we know that this is true or is this something that Jake Paul is hoping is true? Because it seems to me like that would be foolhardy that his money train will end right there because that is professional fighter and he is not.
Stugotz
Look, I'm not here to speak on whether or not Jake Paul is trolling, folks. There were a lot of reports suggesting that Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua were negotiating a fight. And then I ordered the Usick fight. Jake Paul was there in attendance and he said no, no hearsay, this is happening. He confirmed it himself to the cameras. Now it could all be a put on. He's done things like this in the past to promote an HBO Max show with his brother. Remember for a day they had some people fool saying the Paul brothers would fight one another. I mean, Jake Paul is not a small dude and he could very certainly get up, bulk up to the point that he's a heavyweight. But he is not the size of Anthony Joshua and I think more importantly he is not of the skill set. There's a guy who the most recent heavyweight he fought was Mike Tyson at His age, Anthony Joshua, I think they're talking about Wembley. It would be a massive fight. People would be tuning in to see someone that they know is a boxer of repute go up against Jake Paul and not some waterlogged version of that heavyweight fighter. I'm with you. This seems to be the end of things for Jake Paul, but I am more than back in because I want to see it happen.
Mike Ryan
That is nuts. Okay. To fight that person. If you're not familiar with Anthony Joshua, look, he had a couple of setbacks. They've been disappointing. It's beyond him looking the part though. He's an exceptional fighter and I really did think that a super fight between him and Wilder, for people who love boxing, would have felt like old time. Heavyweight boxing matters. And then Joshua lost and was exposed, but, and, and, and lost to a fat guy, which hurts, Right? It just hurts the reputation when you lose to somebody who's a little sloppy. When you're a little sloppy, it hurts.
Greg Cody
The other thing too is you have Jake Paul and every time that we've seen him fight, it's been against somebody who's not a boxer, Right. Then he graduated from that into waterlog boxers, as Mike was saying. And then you get to the Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. Fight and you're like, okay, like, like he, this is a guy that's been dealing with drug and alcohol problems and he's not at the top of his profession. He's a good name, but like, not.
Stugotz
It got deported days after also.
Greg Cody
But then you look at Anthony Joshua, right, Who is a legitimate, probably one of the best boxers on the planet. If we start, you know, divvying up good, really good boxers at the elite.
Mike Ryan
He'S one of the best heavyweights for sure.
Stugotz
Yeah. In a sneaky, pretty good era for heavyweight. Yes.
Greg Cody
And what we see what he did to Francis Ngan, which was. Knocked him out in boxing, not in mma, knocked Francis Ngannou out in boxing. And then you see Jake Paul and you're like, I know Jake Paul is not Francis Ngannou. Going back to math, right, 10% is more than 9%. I know. I look at Francis Ngannou and then I look at Jake Paul and I'm like, those two guys are not the same. They're not built the same. And Anthony Joshua knocked Ngannou out. So I look at Jake Paul and I'm like, does he really have a chance? But he's proven everybody, proven us all wrong the entire way.
Stugotz
I'm waiting to see what the catch is. I mean, there has to be a catch.
Mike Ryan
I don't believe it.
Stugotz
I mean, okay, Jake Paul said himself, but he says a lot of things. Jake Paul is not a small guy. I know he's ranked at a smaller weight class. I've said next to the guy, dude is big and he can certainly get the heavyweight weight class. He had a face off with Usyk, which is kind of ridiculous. I don't know why they're doing that. You have a guy that's beaten Tyson Fury twice and a guy that lost his brother. I don't know why we're doing that face off, but maybe just for the.
Billy Corben
Moment, I'm surprised to hear you say that Jake Paul career would be over with a loss. I don't think that's the case at all. I think maybe I'm being too cynical. Everybody wants Jake Paul to lose. Everybody's going to be rooting against him. If Joshua wins, as expected, immediately he's granted Jake Paul's granted a rematch, then it becomes the best out of three, and then it's just a moneymaker for everybody.
Greg Cody
This is a great quote. Tyson Fury says Jake Paul is gonna knock out Anthony Joshua.
Stugotz
I don't know what's going on here. Something's going on here.
Mike Ryan
I don't think that his career would be over. I think that the Money Train, like the Giant fights would be over. If he gets knocked out in the first couple of rounds by Anthony Joshua, just the Giant money train, that's curious.
Stugotz
Because I think that he's finally picking an opponent where like, yeah, we understand why, why you lost here.
Billy Corben
Yeah.
Stugotz
And he actually earned something by taking the fight. Oh. But I think everyone thinks stepping into the ring is a winning Joshua, like, it's gonna make. It's going to be a massive fight. Number one, they're going to clear a lot of money. You're going to have morbid curiosity. You're going to go in there thinking, this guy may get pummeled in ways that we've never seen him. And I think everybody would tip their hat saying, okay, this is not a. He may be past his prime, but not in the way that Mike Tyson is. Far from it. This guy is God bona fides.
Mike Ryan
No, he's not past his prime. Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua is an exceptional fighter, and I believe he would embarrass Jake Paul. But I also thought Mike Tyson would hurt Jake Paul, so. And I got that one spectacularly wrong. The things that I don't know about all of this is boxing's a sewer. There's a lot of money to be made. I saw Floyd Mayweather hold up Conor McGregor for a bunch of rounds because he could. And Anthony Josh will realize quickly that Jake Paul does not have the skill set, so he can let him hang around for a while and just milk the fight to what Tony is saying so that they can have a second one sometime. Because I think there's very little chance that Jake Paul can actually harm Anthony Joshua. Even with a surprise punch, Even with one surprise punch.
Stugotz
I saw the Logan Paul Mayweather fight and Logan actually performed admirably there. Jake reputed to be the better fighter of the two, but also was a pretty good shining example as to why they have weight classes. Not that Floyd was ever this knockout power type of artist, but dude tried and he couldn't put down Logan. Paul and Logan actually earned a lot by surviving and going in there with a guy that was close to his prime and not getting knocked out. And I think Jake Paul, if he survives it or puts in an admirable showing, gets a few shots and money train keeps going, no matter how bad his face looks by the end of it.
Billy Corben
I also think Jake Paul, in that case, gets a little credit for fighting a real opponent, the best opponent he's fought, even if he gets his ass kicked, frankly. Because then Jake Paul is in a position that he hasn't been in before. He gets to be the underdog, he gets to be the comeback kid. Whether he's humbled or not by losing to Joshua, he gets to be in a position that he hasn't been in before. Give me another chance. I'm still Jake Paul. I want this next fight.
Stugotz
And this segment is exactly why boxing is in a unique place, because we led with Pacquiao at 46 years old. Old. We're talking about what, admittedly is a very interesting Jake Paul fight with Anthony Joshua. But now we're circling back at the end of the segment to a guy that's being called as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time in usyk, a guy that's taken on what I've mentioned is a pretty good generation of heavyweight fighters, certainly better than the Klitschko era, when Klitschko was dominating. You have the Ukraine tie. You have a guy that, if you fight him in a rematch, he knows all your tendencies and he's going to make you lose look absolutely silly. He should be a bigger star. He should be what we lead off with. This is not me. I'm just a casual boxing fan that'll order the occasional big heavyweight fight or other fights that people at no Boxing tell me to order. But he is being talked about by guys that know what they're talking about. As one of the all time great pugilists.
Mike Ryan
You say, though, he should be a bigger star. And you'll have a hard time finding foreigners in boxing who are big stars. I mean, the Klitschko's dominated the division and have no fame standing in the United States. Even though Wladimir Klitschko was the dominant undefeated heavyweight for like 10 years the run. Go look, you're right that it wasn't a great heavyweight class and he wasn't a fun fighter to watch. But go look at what his record is and how he just plowed through that division. And that's the problem. If Usyk was the baddest man in America as the heavyweight, he would be a bigger star, no doubt.
Stugotz
I mean, for someone that does have a language barrier, his English isn't great. He is a charismatic fighter and he is fun to watch. He does have a star quality about him. He does take on all comers. He does take the biggest fights of the generation. And there is always one name standing at the end of it. I'm telling you, he. He should be in that conversation. Not according to me. Although every time I watch him, I'm blown away by his talent. Fury seemed like an impossible thing to crack and he's done it second time. There's rumors that he's going to do it a third time. This dude is unbelievable. And it's going to be really interesting to see where people put him when you get a treetop view on his career.
Greg Cody
Last six fights. Anthony Joshua twice. Dubois twice. Tyson Fury twice. So it's like you're fighting the best of the best every single year.
Mike Ryan
Go ahead and look up for me though. The stats, in fact, just. I wrote it one time in the Miami Herald, just I don't remember them off the top of my head. But the Klitschko's don't get enough credit for what they did, even if you think it's a diluted division. But let's just show everybody some B roll here of Jelly roll throwing Logan Paul into a desk. Please. Let's watch that together. Slightly fake.
Billy Corben
Oh, God.
Stugotz
Took that bump pretty hard. Yeah, he did. That's a. That's a rough looking bump actually there for Logan Paul because, yeah, the table's fake as all hell, but it didn't help him at all cushion that fall. Jelly roll up. Apparently working really, really hard in the ring with guys like Kevin Owens. And the trainers really embracing this thing. And it's curious because Travis Scott was associated with some of the bigger storylines in WWE and Triple H. Kind of took the opportunity to highlight Jelly Roll's commitment and take a shot at Ari's main client, Travis Scott and his level of buy in.
Mike Ryan
How do you guys have no enthusiasm for Manny Pacquiao at 46, being ahead on all the cards after 10 rounds, like it's nothing.
Greg Cody
Then what happen?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I guess he's old.
Stugotz
That felt like the sideshow of all the combat sport cards this weekend. And pfl, I think also had a really good one. You had the BMF title on the line and what many people are saying is the UFC card of the year, one of the greatest UFC cards ever. We said goodbye to a legend. You had that UFC card, plenty of big time favorites lose lot of parlays rip because of that UFC card. And you had the, the heavyweight of his generation put in the work. I guess Manny Pacquiao, I thought got lost in the shuffle, but you were locked in, Dan.
Mike Ryan
I, I'm guessing that Pacquiao has bigger name than usyk, even though Pacquiao at this point in his career is faded.
Dan Le Batard
Who's, who's Pacquiao for, like, in terms of like boxing? Because I feel like trotting Manny Pacquiao out there for a fight is no different than trotting Jake Paul out there for a fight just on different age.
Stugotz
Spectrum, Asians to a large degree, Filipinos. But I'm saying Manny Pacquiao and it's.
Dan Le Batard
A huge base, but it's a nostalgia play, right? Like you're getting him because like, wow, look, we have Manny Pacquiao, but that's not that different than Jake Paul, is it? I mean, I guess he's more legitimate because he obviously has the career and he's done it. But it's as real of fight as a Jake Paul fight is.
Stugotz
No, I mean he's, he's still. He mean, he's Manny Pacquiao at his prime. He was, you know him to be great. We, we don't know how good Jake Paul is. We don't have. The only frame of reference is he lost at Tyson Fury's brother.
Dan Le Batard
But it's the same trick.
Stugotz
It is a degree that.
Mike Ryan
No, it is that it's just a famous fighter. It's the only reason he's getting a title fight. It's not because he deserves a title fight. It's because he brings pay per view money and he brings fans because he has that name, but he also has a boxing record that before that one knockout, he's the opponent that most people in boxing thought could beat Floyd Mayweather. He was the only one there was. There was only one that was the one that everyone thought has a chance against Floyd Mayweather.
Greg Cody
And Floyd, as smart as he is, as you talked about him, Dan, like the original pay per view guy, that understood if I sell this fight, I'm going to make more money on the back end and I'm never going to take damage because I'm such a good defensive fighter. He knew Pacquiao may have given him trouble, which is why he dragged on so long to fight him. And then all of a sudden, when Pacquiao finally fought Floyd, me the shell of what he was and it's like, okay, cool, I'll just sit back here.
Stugotz
Jab.
Dan Le Batard
So boring, that fight.
Mike Ryan
It was.
Dan Le Batard
I watched that fight and I said, everybody did. That's why I want Conor McGregor to fight him again. You know, that fight was more exciting. Put on the poll which was more fighting, Conor vs Floyd or Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Connor?
Greg Cody
Dan, I know you were locked in on Pacquiao. I know you were locked in on us. Dustin Poirier bringing the UFC to Louisiana. I don't know if they've ever done a card there. Imagine the, the, the cachet. Imagine the love that you have worldwide company wide for you to bring a pay per view, numbered pay per view card to Louisiana for your last dance. Fought Max Holloway in the trilogy and it got to me, it got me a second when, when he went out there and put the gloves on, they played the video tribute. I was just like, damn, one of the good guys. I think I do you have anything bad to say about Dustin Pori? Like, he's a guy that is community driven, family driven, great fighter, has fought. I'm going to read you some of the names in his generation that he's fought. Max Holloway three times, McGregor three, three times. Justin Gaethje, Eddie Alvarez, Islam Makashev, Korean Zombie, Charles Oliveira, Michael Chandler. Like, he's fought the best of the best in his generation and now he calls it quits, puts the gloves on the canvas. An emotional time for me on the MMA hangout.
Dan Le Batard
Dano, he'll be back.
Greg Cody
No, he won't.
Dan Le Batard
They're always back. No, he'll be back.
Greg Cody
I thought I knew you were gonna say that when I was walking in preparing something for Dustin Poirier.
Dan Le Batard
You know, he'll be back.
Greg Cody
He's not gon to be back. Yeah, this.
Stugotz
This is.
Greg Cody
This is one that's forever.
Dan Le Batard
There's always a price. Always.
Billy Corben
Tyson fights at 58, Pacquiao fights at 46. Nobody ever retires in that sport.
Dan Le Batard
He'll be back.
Mike Ryan
They really undercut you there, Tony. You're. You're our expert. You're the one who's drawing big numbers on all these MMA hangouts. I think I would have trouble getting Greg Cody to name three mixed martial artists all time. I think that might. I think Greg's got him.
Billy Corben
Greg, you got it.
Mike Ryan
You think you could do 3?
Billy Corben
5?
Mike Ryan
What's the most you could. I asked you to just name MMA all time.
Billy Corben
I could do 10 or 12. Easy.
Mike Ryan
MMA fighters.
Billy Corben
Okay, take a quiz.
Mike Ryan
You can name three instead of 10 if you want. I will say five seconds.
Billy Corben
I will say Dustin, whatever his last name was will come back Jack.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 2: Bad Rabbit
Release Date: July 21, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Greg Cody, Billy Corben
The episode kicks off with exciting NBA news, focusing on Chris Paul’s recent deal with the Los Angeles Clippers. Stugotz shares, “[Chris Paul] has signed a deal with the Los Angeles Clippers, the team he's probably most associated with, and that will be where he ends his career” (01:24). The hosts express optimism about the Clippers’ future, praising the organization’s recent moves and stability.
Mike Ryan poses a question to the group: “What is the better feel-good story? Chris Paul to the Clippers or Damian Lillard back to the Portland Trailblazers?” Greg Cody promptly responds, “Chris Paul,” highlighting the significance of Paul's influence and leadership within the team (01:47).
The conversation shifts to a controversial topic involving professional golfer Wyndham Clark. The hosts discuss Oakmont Country Club’s decision to ban Clark following an incident during the US Open, where Clark allegedly destroyed the locker room. Stugotz remarks, “They’re gonna be prominent in that west” (01:38), indicating confidence in the Clippers under Paul’s leadership.
Mike Ryan delves deeper, questioning the severity of Clark’s actions and the club’s response: “What do you think about Oakmont, an exclusive country club banning a professional golfer who’s gonna want to play the US Open?” (05:26). The discussion highlights the imposed penalties on Clark, including financial restitution, charitable contributions, and mandatory counseling. Greg Cody expresses frustration over the requirements, stating, “You want me to tell you where I want you to go. Straight to hell” (07:38).
The hosts debate the appropriateness of such penalties, balancing accountability with understanding the pressures faced by professional athletes. Billy Corben adds, “Wyndham Clark should take the offensive here. He should say this is absurd” (07:09), advocating for Clark to challenge the ban.
A. Woman Swallowed by a Shark [14:06–14:37]
Billy Corben shares a bizarre and tragic story about a woman who was reportedly swallowed whole by a 13-foot shark while swimming with friends. He notes, “The weirdest part about that story... Nobody screamed” (14:25), emphasizing the sudden and unnoticed nature of the incident. The hosts find humor in the situation, with Dan Le Batard quipping, “Every friend group has a Shelly...” (14:31).
B. Man's Tragic Death in an MRI [19:03–24:58]
Mike Ryan brings up a shocking story about a 61-year-old man who died while wearing a thick chain in an MRI machine. He reflects, “I had no idea that was a thing that could be possible” (20:12). The hosts express disbelief and concern over the safety protocols, questioning how such a tragedy could occur despite standard precautions like removing jewelry.
Stugotz contributes, “It sounds as if he might have brought on his own demise” (23:24), discussing the factors that might have led to the accident. The conversation underscores the importance of adhering to safety guidelines in medical settings to prevent such preventable tragedies.
A. Manny Pacquiao vs. Jake Paul [25:48–33:44]
The discussion intensifies with an analysis of Manny Pacquiao’s recent fight against YouTube star-turned-boxer Jake Paul. Mike Ryan expresses disappointment, noting, “I was really rooting for Pacquiao... he just got” (25:52), alluding to Pacquiao’s loss. The hosts debate whether Pacquiao’s age played a significant role, with Greg Cody likening Pacquiao’s situation to Jake Paul’s, stating, “In terms of boxing? It’s no different than trotting Jake Paul out there for a fight just on different age” (37:10).
Stugotz emphasizes Pacquiao’s legacy, “He should be a bigger star” (35:56), while Billy Corben argues that Jake Paul’s career might not end with a loss: “Everybody’s going to be rooting against him. If Joshua wins... the best out of three” (30:09). The hosts explore the potential future matchups and the implications for both fighters’ careers.
B. Anthony Joshua vs. Jake Paul [26:07–33:44]
The conversation shifts to Anthony Joshua’s potential fight with Jake Paul. Mike Ryan questions the viability of such a match, “He’s a legitimate heavyweight... He is a good name, but...” (28:27). Stugotz counters by acknowledging Joshua’s status in boxing: “He’s God bona fides” (31:28), while Greg Cody debates the strategic value, highlighting Joshua’s dominance and skill set compared to Paul’s.
Billy Corben adds optimism, suggesting that even a loss for Paul could lead to lucrative rematches, “He gets a little credit for fighting a real opponent” (33:44). The hosts ponder whether this fight would mark the end of Paul’s “money train” or pave the way for future high-profile bouts.
C. Oleksandr Usyk’s Ascendancy [33:44–35:56]
The hosts laud Ukrainian boxer Oleksandr Usyk, arguing that he deserves more recognition and should be a prominent figure in heavyweight boxing. Stugotz asserts, “He should be in that conversation” (34:36), while Greg Cody praises Usyk’s consistent performance against elite fighters: “Last six fights. Anthony Joshua twice. Dubois twice. Tyson Fury twice” (35:56). Mike Ryan concurs, highlighting Usyk’s credentials and the need for broader acknowledgment within the boxing community.
D. Dustin Poirier’s Retirement and MMA Insights [35:56–41:27]
Transitioning to MMA, Billy Corben shares insights on Dustin Poirier’s retirement, lauding his contributions to the sport and his impressive fight history. He remarks, “He fought the best of the best in his generation” (40:54). The hosts reflect on Poirier’s legacy, discussing his fights against top-tier opponents like Max Holloway and Conor McGregor.
Greg Cody emphasizes Poirier’s impact, stating, “He’s a guy that is community-driven, family-driven, great fighter” (40:50), while Mike Ryan notes the parallels between boxing and MMA in terms of fighter careers and public perception. The conversation underscores the importance of fighters' reputations and the business side of combat sports.
As the episode wraps up, the hosts engage in light-hearted banter, reflecting on the day’s discussions. Dan Le Batard humorously compares reconstructing the studio to building with IKEA furniture, eliciting laughs from the team. The camaraderie among the hosts highlights the entertaining dynamic that fans appreciate.
Stugotz and Billy Corben tease upcoming segments and personal anecdotes, maintaining the show’s engaging and relatable atmosphere. The episode concludes with playful interactions, leaving listeners entertained and informed.
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Conclusion
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, the hosts delve into a mix of sports controversies, from Chris Paul’s Clippers signing to Wyndham Clark’s ban from Oakmont Country Club. They explore intriguing and tragic stories outside the sports realm, such as a shark attack and a fatal MRI incident. The bulk of the conversation centers on combat sports, offering in-depth analysis of Manny Pacquiao’s fight against Jake Paul, the potential showdown between Anthony Joshua and Jake Paul, and spotlighting Oleksandr Usyk’s rising prominence in boxing. The episode concludes with discussions on MMA legends like Dustin Poirier, blending insightful sports commentary with the hosts' signature humor and camaraderie.