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Stugats
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Tony
We all believe the Ravens to be a good football team and this is not the stat. I'm going to give you three options on the stat. You guys choose one. But just as build up to the stat of the day, I will tell you the jets have allowed 93 points this season. The Bears have allowed 93 points this season, the Titans have allowed 94 points this season, the Dolphins have allowed 97 points this season and the Ravens have allowed 97 points this season. This is why the following three stats are true. And you guys tell me which is the best of these. From Warren Sharp the Ravens have scored 104 points. They are 1 and 2. They are the only team since at least 2000 to have scored 100 plus points through three weeks but have a losing record. The other 25 teams with 100 plus points through three weeks went 68 and 7. This is from Dante Kopflem. The Ravens are the first team in the Super bowl era to score 100 plus points, rush for 300 plus yards and have a losing record through three games. And Lamar Jackson is the first quarterback in NFL history with nine plus passing touchdowns, zero interceptions and a losing record through three games.
Stugats
Who was that stat from?
Tony
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm glad you did that. Always helpful the people around me. Dante Cop Flem.
Greg Cody
That's a funny name.
Zas
I don't know that fool.
Tony
I was just trying to give the source of the stat credit and look at the reward I get. It's everyone sitting around being piranha.
Billy Gill
Dante Koplowitz Fleming. He's senior researcher for NFL and Good Morning Football.
Greg Cody
I vote for the third one. I think it's astonishing that a quarterback like Lamar Jackson having that great a season. How frustrated must Lamar Jackson be right now? The most frustrated superstar in the league.
Mike Ryan
I mean he had a big fumble and then after the fumble he had a fourth down conversion that he could have thrown early and held it late and got sacked and stopped him at the goal line again like he's. He's not without fault here.
Zas
I feel like Mahomes is probably more frustrated right now than Lamar Jackson.
Greg Cody
But Lamar Jackson last night had no protection whatsoever. I mean, he's more mobile, more nimble than 90% of quarterbacks and he had no chance because of his offensive line.
Stugats
Mahomes can make the argument that I have reinforcements coming like Lamar Jackson's. Everything's there.
Greg Cody
Like Lamar Jackson's, like I'm great and look at this, look at, look around me. I gotta score. I score 30 points and I lose by eight.
Tony
All that stuff is interesting, but I'm gonna say that in this century, okay. After the year 2000, it's stunning to me to watch the Ravens physically handled by another team. What Given what I've seen of Ravens football For the last 25 years, precious few times, like maybe they lose the way they lose against against Buffalo earlier this season. Maybe they lose the weird way they lost against the Dolphins when TUA came back and and got us all excited down here. But to see the Ravens manhandled, when I just think of them as being a team that's not capable of being manhandled back from when Ray Lewis was stealing Eddie George's stole and Tennessee and Baltimore were playing the most physical games. You know, the Baltimore Ravens are going to be a physical football team to see not only the Lions go in there and physically do that, but their coach to be like, you know what? And I'm going for it. I'm fourth down and I'm throwing it.
Zas
Way down the field on such a balls move. Fourth and two with two minutes left from. From their own side of the field.
Mike Ryan
Love it against your best corner and St. Brown dust them.
Jeremy
When I saw someone point out like what makes that play so effective is the fact that St. Brown is always blocking. Like the fact that their wide receivers are such capable blockers that he can bluff that block and then slip out and you get the perfect throw. It just showed everything that Lions football has been about and they called a.
Zas
Penalty on that play too.
Tony
What also makes it effective is that very few teams in the league have the confidence to do that in that spot because they all play a little bit scared. Like they late game situations when everyone knows the criticism is, you've heard me say that real leadership always risks unpopularity. Rare is the coach willing to say, no, I've got, got the. I've got what I need. I will take whatever criticism you've got coming my way.
Zas
You think there would have been criticism had they not gotten it? I don't Think so. At this point, I think we know how they play, and I think it was a smart move, too.
Jeremy
I think the thing with Dan Campbell we're always talking about, like, oh, he's not a genius. Is there not genius in being a remarkable leader that can instill that confidence in your team? Everybody has genius in sort of different ways. And his ability to communicate with his team, to get them on the same page, to get them motivated the way that they do. No, he's maybe known as an X's and O's genius, but there is genius in that. No different than, you know, Mike talking about the genius of Mario Cristobal as an offensive line coach.
Greg Cody
I mean, Dan Campbell from his introductory press conference, the eat the kneecap thing.
Tony
We'Re going to get up and on the way up, we're going to buy the kneecap off.
Greg Cody
Okay. I'm not big on the culture thing. We got to change the culture. In Detroit's case, that guy, that coach went in and changed the culture on 50 years of losing.
Billy Gill
Isn't that the problem here in Miami is the culture? Like, that's the exact problem, is that they have talent, but, like all reports are, the culture's terrible and Mike McDaniel doesn't have control of the team.
Greg Cody
Well, they tried to change. You know, trading Jalen Ramsey was part of the effort to change the culture.
Stugats
Their way of changing the culture was just when the interview started in training camp. They're like, the culture's better now, Right?
Greg Cody
No, I mean, fixed it. Look, I'll argue with anybody that the Dolphins are better than people say they are because they've been appreciably better in all three games or in the second and third games. I will not argue that they've solved the. The culture problem, but I. Something wrong there.
Tony
I think if you guys are going to start doing this with culture, I mean, I would just say that as it regards Dan Campbell specifically, rare is the coach who's that kind of fearless because all of them worry a little bit about what's going to fall on their head if they're the ones going to be blamed for losing. And what's clear with this person and the way they play, because as is right, this is just who the Lions are right now. They will.
Zas
They.
Tony
They had a season ended, at least in part the most promising season in my lifetime watching the Lions, the most hopeful season ended at least in part because Dan Campbell's always going to be fearless. He's. It. It's not going to be about math. It's not going to be about percentages. It's simply going to be, I'm going to convey my team all the time that I believe in these players even if I fail believing in them.
Zas
They were so close to the super bowl that year. Dan Campbell and the Lions were so close to the Super Bowl.
Mike Ryan
The cool thing about Dan Campbell is, like, he has the relational equity with the ownership group and with everybody there in the front office, where it's like he came in and was like, I'm going forward on fourth downs. Like, I don't really care.
Zas
But how does he have that relationship, Relationship equity the day he's higher?
Mike Ryan
I know. That's the crazy part. It's like, wait, I'm just going to go forward on fourth down. Everybody's like, oh, wait a second. He's going to go fourth down.
Tony
Like, okay, yeah. But Brandon Staley did the same thing and they ran him right out of the league. Well, the presentation matters. The president. Brandon Staley is only going to bite your kneecaps because that's where he is down there biting that. He's needed. He's face to knee with your kneecap. And Dan Campbell's towering above you, just drinking a million coffees, breathing. Coffee breath and, and, and masculinity into your face mask.
Zas
So much masculinity.
Greg Cody
If there's such a. I don't, I don't think there is such a thing, but if there were such a thing as completely neutral NFL fans who didn't have a rooting interest. You gotta cheer for the Detroit Lions to finally make the Super Bowl. This team is.
Zas
I was sharing for him two years ago.
Greg Cody
I mean, they're, there's, they're so likable. Dan Campbell is so like, the Bucks are that team.
Stugats
For me as a beaten down Dolphins fan who's just kind of looking around the league like, I think I'm gonna.
Billy Gill
Root for the Bucks.
Zas
They've won two Super Bowls in your lifetime.
Stugats
I know, but I like Baker. I'm kind of like, I just like, they're a fun team.
Greg Cody
I think Detroit is the ultimate underdog that no longer is. That you gotta root for. I don't think there are many other Buffalo. I think a Detroit, Buffalo, Minnesota.
Zas
They've never won. They never won a Super Bowl. No, no. Yes.
Greg Cody
Minnesota's one of those, but Buffalo hasn't even been in one.
Stugats
So, no, I want Buffalo to get close.
Zas
We don't want Buffalo.
Tony
Guys, there's nothing that compares to the Lions. Like, there's nothing in that sports history that's close to the Lions. Two of their best players quit early. Two of the best players in their history quit early because they're like, I'm not doing this anymore. That's a. That is a national LAUGHING Stock. For 50 years.
Billy Gill
The Bills lost four straight Super Bowls, but they went, but they lost.
Stugats
I feel like the Jags and Browns are in the same kind of ballpark as you're talking about.
Tony
The Bills had expectations those four years and got to the Super Bowl. The Lions are never expected to do anything, ever.
Billy Gill
I think failing on expectations is worse than not having expectations because your heart is broken, where you just go in, like, apathetic if you don't have expectations. Like, you think Jaguars fans actually hurt.
Zas
I just think they're miserable.
Billy Gill
I don't think they feel anything.
Dan Le Batard
The.
Greg Cody
The Lions last won an NFL championship right around the time I was born. Okay, fathom that for a second. Now. It was. I can't remember exactly the year, but it was like, 1957, 54. I mean, it's. It's been a lifetime.
Tony
I. I don't think anything comes close to the Lions. There are three best players ever. Two of them quit, and the other one won a Super bowl as soon as he left. Like, that's. Those are the three. Those are the three guys I associate the Detroit Lions with just always being losers for half a century.
Billy Gill
But they've had a lot of good feeling lately. Like, the last two seasons have been great for them. They've won playoff games. They've been right at the doorstep of.
Tony
The best teams of my lifetime. Best Lions teams of my lifetime have been the last couple of years.
Jeremy
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Definitely me.
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Dan Le Batard
Don Levatarrd this is the quickest it goes.
Tony
Hey, this is the quickest it goes.
Dan Le Batard
Stugats everybody.
Tony
This is the quickest it goes.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, this is the Dan Lev with the Stugach.
Tony
I wanted to figure out why it is that Billy and Zaz. I felt some jealousy because Billy evidently got into something that Zaz wanted to get into last night. Like what?
Zas
Well, look at your shirt. You're wearing the Smashing Machine shirt. Oh, and I. So the Smashing Machine comes out and that's the new movie with Rock. Okay. It's about Mark her, the MMA fighter, his name's Rock.
Billy Gill
And James Duane.
Zas
I wanted to see Smashing Machine last night because it doesn't come out to October, but I always like seeing the movies as soon as possible, Greg. Like if there's a premiere or if it opens days before, I got to be one of the first people to see it.
Stugats
It's like the opposite of my dad.
Greg Cody
Yeah, totally.
Billy Gill
Do you like, like big screens, small screens? How do you like to see it?
Zas
Yeah, yeah, well, yeah, the first viewing is in a theater. Oh, you would love.
Billy Gill
This is imax.
Zas
Well, see, that's the huge screen. It's worst case scenario for me where I tried to go see it last night. It was only playing in one place, but I didn't know how to get the tickets. And then Billy walks in this morning with it with his Smashing Machine shirt. I'm like, yo, where'd you get the shirt? And he says, oh, I saw the. I saw the premiere last night. And I was like, God damn it. So he saw the movie and I didn't.
Billy Gill
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know what to tell you. I'm now an MMA influencer. I dabble in influencers.
Zas
What does that even mean, you're an MMA influencer?
Billy Gill
What do you mean?
Zas
What do you mean?
Billy Gill
I mean, I'm an. I don't understand the question. I'm an MMA influencer, A person of influence within the MMA community.
Zas
What have you ever done to influence someone MMA related?
Billy Gill
I saw the Smashing Machine and I was invited. The MMA community said, you know what? We need someone of influence to go out there and spread the word on the Smashing Machine, an MMA movie.
Zas
And how did you then use a 24 knowledge and information to influence anyone? I bet you kept it yourself.
Billy Gill
Why haven't got anyone? Well, because here's the thing. I'm unlike you. I'm not a boaster. You know, I go in there, I'm invited to come out, watch the movie, give my thoughts on it, influence the mma.
Zas
Would you give the thoughts to.
Billy Gill
I haven't gotten to really.
Mike Ryan
Who from the MMA community reach out and let you know.
Zas
So you have an influence. A single person is what you're saying.
Billy Gill
I wait my turn. I don't just interrupt people, cut people off, come in here, sit in other people's chairs. Like, that's not my thing.
Zas
Okay, so you're not influencer. You're an MMA Wait my turn person.
Billy Gill
I'm. I'm waiting to influence the MMA world. Isn't the part of my thoughts on the movie?
Stugats
The part of influencing is boasting?
Zas
Yeah. When is this grand influence going to happen?
Billy Gill
You wouldn't understand, because no one wanted you to influence anything. And I was invited to influence, not just moviegoers. MMA community. I got this shirt. Some might say I'm a fashion influencer as well.
Zas
Nobody's saying that.
Billy Gill
NASCAR invited me to the Daytona 500. I influenced there.
Zas
You know what?
Billy Gill
I went to Homestead. I influenced at Homestead. Then Mike came in, he stole my NASCAR thing, and that's fine. He can go to Chicago. He can go to those other races.
Zas
Tell you what, if I went to this movie last night, I'd be telling everybody about it. Wow, Zazzle, you're an amazing influencer. Not like that guy Billy, who just holds all the information for himself, like a schnurr. He comes and sees the movie for free and doesn't tell anyone about it.
Greg Cody
Look, look, look, look. I can. Look. I catalog the influence community. Yeah, okay. I know influencers. I can verify Billy is an MMA influencer.
Billy Gill
Okay, let's.
Greg Cody
I can also report that you have applied to be a Pearl Jam influencer and have been rejected on numerous occasions.
Billy Gill
I believe that.
Zas
I mean, these are falsehoods.
Billy Gill
I believe that. I'm just saying you're a Pearl Jam beggar. If I remember correctly, the only way you went to go see Pearl Jam was if. Hey, Dan. Chris's dad bought you tickets.
Zas
Hey, we're not talking about Pearl Jam right here. We're talking about mma, and we're talking about you.
Billy Gill
Do you want me to ruin the movie? I'll tell you exactly what happened on the Smashing Machine. What is the truth? I'll tell you exactly how it ends.
Zas
If you ruin the movie for me. You and I, we've got a problem.
Billy Gill
What problem are we gonna have? I'll knock you down to the ground. I'll take your house.
Zas
A problem?
Tony
What?
Billy Gill
See, that's how.
Zas
That's not the way it works.
Billy Gill
You get them down on the ground, the house is yours.
Zas
You gotta keep me on the ground. You don't just knock me down. You gotta keep me on the ground.
Billy Gill
Who's watching MMA movie more recently. And it's about knocking people down, Me or you? The reject that couldn't go to the movie? And I'll tell you what. Right now. I'll tell you what. Right?
Zas
Tell me what.
Billy Gill
There was a lot of empty seats, and when I got there, they said, you have a plus one. You want to bring anyone? I was like, nah, I'm good. Alone? Nah, I'm good.
Jeremy
So you're at a premiere.
Stugats
Did you walk a red carpet?
Billy Gill
Don't worry about me.
Zas
We're worried about you.
Billy Gill
Why are you worried about me? I saw the Smashing Machine. I'll tell you what. There's been Oscar buzz about this movie.
Zas
Is he going to win the Oscar?
Billy Gill
People have been saying there was 15 minutes standing ovations at the end.
Zas
Did you stand by yourself amidst all the empty seats and give an ovation?
Stugats
I was.
Billy Gill
I was with people.
Zas
Big loser move.
Stugats
If you did, that was your ovation.
Billy Gill
Excuse me, I was with people, just not you or person, but whatever. It doesn't matter.
Zas
Did you chat that person up?
Billy Gill
Yeah, we talked in the movie. And what?
Zas
Did they know who you were? They would know who I am if I went.
Billy Gill
I went with a person. What are you talking about? Here's the thing.
Tony
Can I get.
Billy Gill
What. I'll tell you.
Tony
Can I get some information on the movie?
Billy Gill
Because there is Oscar buzz.
Zas
No. He's waiting his turn to tell it's an influencer off. Waiting.
Billy Gill
There's Oscar Buz, but for the wrong person. Because I'm telling you right now, Baz Rudin kills it in that movie. I would give Baz Rudin the best supporting actor Oscar. Like that. Lickety split. I would do that. He crushes it in that movie. Crushes it.
Greg Cody
That's what an influencer does.
Billy Gill
Thank you, Greg.
Greg Cody
That's what an influencer does.
Zas
Terrible movie opinions.
Billy Gill
Watch the movie. Watch the movie and tell me that.
Greg Cody
There'S awards buzz now for boss Root.
Billy Gill
Talk to me in three weeks when you get seeing the movie and tell me that Buzz Rudin did not steal the show.
Zas
I don't have a response to that.
Billy Gill
Not Mary. I mentioned a Speedy. I'll tell you that right now. No one mentioned Speedy Rudin in that movie once. Which was the one flaw of that movie.
Tony
Inside a reference. That is. You're making a joke from 10 years ago.
Billy Gill
What do you mean?
Tony
Beatty Root. When we.
Billy Gill
That's boss's dog.
Tony
When we had Boz Root on the show. You just made a joke that no one in our audience.
Billy Gill
The ones that did, though.
Tony
Tony, I. I have.
Billy Gill
The movie was kind of bad.
Tony
We were. What? What?
Billy Gill
What?
Stugats
That's been everything I've.
Mike Ryan
Everything.
Billy Gill
Saw that.
Mike Ryan
Don't do that.
Stugats
Everything I've heard about the movie is that he's great in it.
Greg Cody
But the movie.
Billy Gill
Baz Rudin is Great.
Stugats
No, the rock.
Billy Gill
I'm not certain about that.
Zas
You're saying that rock was bad?
Billy Gill
Let's say bad. Boss Rudin was good is what I said. Boss Rudin was great.
Zas
Rock bad in the movie.
Tony
That sounds like the Pablo drop.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
A long sigh. Almost as long as the ovation.
Greg Cody
I think he just answered.
Billy Gill
I don't think that he's gonna win an Oscar.
Zas
Okay, but that means there's a lot of room in between winning an Oscar and being bad.
Billy Gill
Listen, here's. Here's. Let me explain to you how influencing works, since you don't get it. If I come out here and I say, man, that movie was dreadful. The rock was horrible, and I think then my influencing game is done. So I just come out here and I say, you know what? Baz Rudin was great in that movie. Boz Rudin was great. I will say. I'll say this about the movie. There was not a standing ovation after the movie ended. There were some. Some people clapping. Notice, not a standing ovation when the movie was over. And there were also parts that were kind of dark. People started laughing, and I was like, I don't know if that was. We're supposed to laugh at that or not. Like, it was a little confusing there sometimes.
Zas
So you don't want to. You don't want to say anything specifically negative about the rock, because then maybe your influencer status is gonna get taken away.
Billy Gill
No, I wouldn't be compromised like that. I just said, Baz Rudin was great in the movie.
Zas
But you're holding back from maybe your real opinion.
Billy Gill
What do you mean? No, my real opinion is Baz Rudin was great. That was my opinion.
Tony
Oz Rudin is always great. And what I was beginning to tell Tony, because we were talking algorithms earlier, I. My algorithm has picked up recently a whole bunch of Baz Rutten fights. And his leg. His leg kicks are lunacy. Like, dude, I would not. I can't believe anybody would fight that person.
Mike Ryan
People didn't do leg kicks. And it was like, all right, I'm just gonna kick this guy's legs. What do you mean? You're.
Billy Gill
Kick his legs.
Mike Ryan
And then all of a sudden, he can't use his legs.
Tony
Just like.
Mike Ryan
Just chop into the calf. You're like, oh, my God, I can't walk.
Zas
What was the commentary around there where they're like, that's not fair.
Mike Ryan
It's like, what is he doing? He's kicking his legs. Okay, good, good. Good thing on you. And then all of a sudden, you can't Walk. Billy. I didn't want to bring this up because obviously, as an MMA influencer.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
You're big in the community, obviously. I know the community pretty well. I'm saying I know the community pretty well.
Billy Gill
We know of you. We've heard of you.
Mike Ryan
Right. So I'm. I'm excited to announce 10-4-influencer for the MMA community. Billy Gill is going to be on the MMA hangout at Casa Tiki live October 4th.
Billy Gill
Can you imagine? We're still. Can you imagine? We're still dotting some T's and cross some eyes, but we'll see. We'll see how that goes. Last time I heard, that place had a house inside of it. So it seems like they need to take down a house, do a whole thing. We'll figure it out.
Tony
Tony's always coming to you with ideas about how to make money and, well, but now you guys, you guys are working on what. Because you guys are always nothing, but Tony's always trying to hatch something with.
Mike Ryan
You, and you are businesses going.
Tony
So how to make money is something.
Jeremy
Here's.
Mike Ryan
Here's the thing, Dan. Me and Billy were looking around and saying, how can we make money? Because we look around at other people and we're like, how do they make money?
Billy Gill
That's really the question is, how do other people.
Mike Ryan
How do other people make money?
Billy Gill
Because I see what things cost, I see what people have, and I'm not a pocket watcher, but I'm watching, I'm curious. Yeah, I'm curious how it is that people make money. Tony's in the home market right now looking for a home, and then he sees, oh, that house costs $2.9 million. Someone has that money.
Mike Ryan
Somebody has that money.
Billy Gill
And how they get that money.
Mike Ryan
Exactly right.
Billy Gill
How they get that money.
Mike Ryan
You've got three Porsches.
Billy Gill
Yeah. How does Tony get. Oh, Porsche. And it's just one and a porch.
Stugats
What are our theories?
Greg Cody
How did you get all that money, Dan?
Billy Gill
How did you get that money?
Mike Ryan
Well, Dan, we can't talk about Dan. Dan. Well, other people.
Greg Cody
Wow.
Mike Ryan
We know what Dan did. I need to know what other people are doing. Are people in just tremendous amount of debt?
Billy Gill
That I think that that is kind.
Tony
Of people just in Miami, millions of.
Mike Ryan
Dollars of debt, and they're like, yeah, I'm good. Like, no, no biggie.
Billy Gill
I don't think, though, about that. They seem happy.
Mike Ryan
They seem very happy.
Billy Gill
So happy in so much debt.
Mike Ryan
You know who seems unhappy?
Billy Gill
I can tell you who seemed unhappy.
Greg Cody
Mark Kerr.
Mike Ryan
Greg. Cody, too.
Tony
We got to get him A cough button over here.
Greg Cody
He has one. He has one. He's okay pressing?
Billy Gill
Yeah, he's just.
Stugats
He hears. It's on your mind.
Billy Gill
Take a swig of the Gatorade combined again. I feel like when you had them all three in there together, it kind of cleared you up.
Greg Cody
You know what I just noticed about Gatorade?
Billy Gill
What?
Greg Cody
This is all news to me. First of all, all three of them say, contains no fruit juice. Okay. I'm not saying it's false advertising because they have it right here in small writing. You got to really look for, but you would assume there's fruit juice in here. Number two, every one of them is the same exact amount of calories. You'd think they would be different.
Billy Gill
Why?
Greg Cody
Because three different drinks, you know, they're three different drinks.
Billy Gill
I would think that it's more or less the same recipe. It's just like the. The little flavor, the coloring.
Greg Cody
Yeah, but you think they would be slightly different. You know, one's 81's 82.
Tony
Give me the Ray Hudson music, please.
Billy Gill
It's a good observation, actually.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Billy Gill
Ray Hudson.
Jeremy
Ray Hudson.
Billy Gill
Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.
Mike Ryan
Ray Hudson.
Billy Gill
Ray Hudson. Car of the day, Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson. Ray Hudson.
Jeremy
Car of the day, Ray Hudson.
Billy Gill
Ray Hudson.
Mike Ryan
Nobody's working out there. People are just out on the street. Oh, yeah, Like I ate in Porsches, in Maseratis and Mercedes Benz. Nobody's working. We're just hanging out, Dan. Traffic, one o' clock in the afternoon. People just driving in expensive cars just driving around, having fun, living life. Hey, you don't need to work.
Greg Cody
Cool.
Mike Ryan
What. What. What did you do to not have to work anymore? Because I need to do that.
Greg Cody
That Miami, you want to know?
Tony
This is what Dan wanted. This is what Dan wanted.
Billy Gill
What would you do to.
Mike Ryan
To make money?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
A lot of things. I'm here to make money.
Billy Gill
You don't have a house.
Mike Ryan
That's. That's a. That's a larger issue.
Jeremy
You're not just here for the love of the game.
Mike Ryan
Can we get paid for the love of the game?
Billy Gill
If you had to get paid by people honking at you, you'd be doing terribly well.
Mike Ryan
No, again, pre. Pre. Going on the air, I had like 10 honks, and all of a sudden.
Billy Gill
They come in and nobody honked like the train honk. Because I think that was.
Mike Ryan
No, the train was fake, the transfer. Even though there is a train honk. Make 10 bucks if I got paid by the honking honk.
Billy Gill
On your way to a house when.
Greg Cody
You fade by the honk Remember the bumper stickers. Honk if you do this, honk if you do that. They used to be everywhere. Everywhere you drive you'd see a honk if this bumper sticker.
Billy Gill
What would you ever honk? What would you honk for?
Greg Cody
You know, it depends if you're horny. Yeah, yeah.
Zas
That's the go to if you're watching lion videos.
Greg Cody
Yes, baby. Oh, yeah.
Stugats
My favorite bumper sticker is my. My kid beat up your honor l student.
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's funny.
Tony
Everyone who has one of those is.
Mike Ryan
An but again, not working and in a Range Rover. So what do you tell me?
Tony
Dan, play the Ray Hudson call, please.
Billy Gill
Is electrifying as a hair dryer thrown into a hot tub, my friend.
Zas
Absolutely breathtaking.
Billy Gill
He puts the Haitian voodoo rattle on this one. Ah, like Betamax. They do not make them like him anymore.
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Dan Le Batard
Don LeBatard.
Greg Cody
What do we got here? I got a Magnum condom. We won't get that out.
Tony
That's shocking.
Dan Le Batard
Stugats.
Greg Cody
Here's a picture of Christopher when he was like three years old.
Tony
Right next to the condom.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Forever.
Billy Gill
Never forget.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Tony
Tony was out on the streets feeling betrayed by the Falcons. And I don't know if you guys saw this, but after losing to Carolina, they just fired their receivers coach, Ike Hilliard. Like it's like it's early in the season.
Jeremy
Ike is the scapegoat.
Tony
It's early in the season to be doing that. They blame their wide receiver coach, Ike Hilliard. Did. Did any of us feel like Ike Hilliard was responsible for losing to Carolina 30 to nothing?
Greg Cody
He's a beautiful scapegoat. That's what he is. And the Gators offense needs him back. I wonder if he's got any eligibility left.
Tony
Greg, would you be kind enough to tell us why it is that you were talking so much before the show about chainsaws? Is there any particular reason that you were. I have never held a chainsaw before. I've never held one in my hands before. Have put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Have you ever used a chainsaw? Yes or no? What Is the answer to the question in the room.
Greg Cody
I have.
Tony
Everyone else has. Billy, you have. Jeremy, have you used a chainsaw before?
Jeremy
Have you looked at me? No, obviously not.
Billy Gill
You haven't.
Zas
He and I are Jewish. Come on.
Greg Cody
I have a chainsaw in my garage right now. It's one of those. I think it's a foot and a half blade. And chainsaws. Most of us associate them with cutting down trees or pruning branches or something like that. That's the predominant use now, of course, the chainsaw was invented not for that, but for widening the pubic cartilage to aid in child delivery back in the 18th or 19th centuries.
Mike Ryan
I looked that up.
Greg Cody
Yeah, that's exactly right. That was the chainsaws. That's a Three Facts Jack from the Greg Cody show podcast. Occasionally, in researching that, I come up with a fact that not only I didn't know, but that astonishes me.
Tony
I feel like that's a fact. We could have all gone the rest of time without needing to know.
Greg Cody
It's important information.
Mike Ryan
It's a fact, Jack.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Tony
That seems insane.
Billy Gill
It was different, though. It's not the modern. No, it's different. It was a flexible saw.
Greg Cody
It was chainsaw.
Tony
It was the original. That's why you came in here today talking about the chainsaws?
Greg Cody
Yes.
Tony
Why did this come up on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody?
Stugats
Three Facts Jack.
Greg Cody
Every week I have a segment called Three Facts Jack every week where I astonish listeners with something that I'm sure they didn't know. And. And that was number two this week, I believe.
Billy Gill
What was better than that?
Greg Cody
I can't even remember what they were. What was the number one? Listen to the podcast. We'll all find out together.
Jeremy
So, Greg, when I was looking for that fact to just confirm Google, I did confirm it for me. So I clicked on the link that it used as proof and it was a Facebook post from someone named Craig Peterson on the official site of the rock band Slave Raider. So I don't. That's your backup information?
Stugats
Yeah, I don't know anything about that.
Billy Gill
Good to distance yourself there, Greg.
Greg Cody
I don't source. I don't source. AI. You know, I. I go right to the. I go right to the source.
Jeremy
So what was the source?
Greg Cody
Well, I talked to several relatives of women who 200 years ago had this procedure done and they verified it to me. So it really is a fact, Jack.
Billy Gill
I have a correction from earlier, Greg. So Minnie Pearl was a stage name, not her actual name. So she may not actually Be related to Bruce Pearl.
Greg Cody
Wow. I wonder if Pear Pearl knows that.
Billy Gill
I don't know Bruce. Yeah, I wonder if that's his real name. Let me look it up.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Minnie Pearl was famous for on stage, she would wear a hat with the price tag left on it.
Billy Gill
That's right.
Greg Cody
You know, she was a country, country, country comedian.
Billy Gill
Bruce Allen Pearl. It is his real name. Okay. Yeah.
Greg Cody
Vinny Pearl's real name.
Tony
Oh, for the love of God, Greg, please.
Greg Cody
I'm just curious.
Tony
Please.
Greg Cody
It could be a three factor.
Tony
You're here now, Greg. You came in here today, okay, talking about chainsaws, about for some reason being naked and getting your. Getting your fat percentage.
Greg Cody
This is. Look, I have to read this sentence to you because it's astonishing, okay? And this is serious stuff. A Rhode island judge sentenced an ex high school basketball coach to a year of probation after he spent decades asking hundreds of male student athletes if they were shy or not shy before asking them to get naked to check their body fat. Now, what's astonishing to me about that sentence is the word decades. Like, during those decades, there wasn't a kid, mom. The kid gets home from school, mom says, teddy, how was your day today? He says, mom, it was good, but it was weird. In basketball practice, the coach had everybody get naked, and mom goes to the principal. Why did that never happen in decades?
Tony
I'm gonna do this again.
Greg Cody
I'm just asking.
Billy Gill
Stop talking. Sarah. Ophelia, Collie Cannon. Is Mini Pearl maybe related to Nick Cannon? Let me check.
Tony
Yeah, please.
Greg Cody
Ophelia is a name that you don't see anymore.
Jeremy
Well, that's because she was born 791dog years ago.
Zas
Minor penalty, two minutes for verbal diarrhea.
Greg Cody
That's harsh.
Mike Ryan
Just out on a three facts, Jack.
Tony
Get out of here. Just leave for a little while.
Zas
Impressive last couple minutes.
Tony
I mean, just unbelievable.
Billy Gill
Across decades. Someone should have said something to the principal, Honestly. Greg's right about that.
Tony
Yes, he is. He's not that.
Billy Gill
It would have been if it was only like five years. It's still bad.
Tony
Just. Just leave for a little while. Gather yourself.
Stugats
Chainsaw fact was interesting.
Billy Gill
So the punishment was just the guy has to stand somewhere naked. That. I don't. I don't quite understand that. It's a punishment. What was the punishment?
Mike Ryan
He was checking people's body fat.
Billy Gill
You know, when.
Mike Ryan
When they take out those pinchers, Dan.
Stugats
Dude, I remember those as bigger, huskier kids.
Mike Ryan
You know what I'm talking about?
Stugats
I had those pinchers.
Mike Ryan
They're like, hey, on your po. That Let me see if I can grab as much fat as I can.
Stugats
It's always right. It's always like right here.
Mike Ryan
You got a lot of fat.
Greg Cody
The armpit.
Billy Gill
Remember those?
Zas
It's always right here for.
Mike Ryan
That's the Ponceta right there.
Tony
Yeah, the Love Handles. Yep. Zaslow was. Was celebrating something that I don't often see celebrated. Jerry Jones has decided and has said for some reason that Micah Parsons isn't going to get. Greg. Go to the penalty box. It's not a punishment to just.
Zas
What are you doing?
Tony
Sit there. Just sit there lounging. Go to the penalty.
Stugats
That's a nice shirt.
Jeremy
It is a nice shirt.
Stugats
Jeremy would wear.
Billy Gill
Yeah, of course.
Jeremy
I. That's a great shirt.
Billy Gill
I figured out that shirt. So you asked before. The material, I think it's a cotton blend. But the best way I would describe it is if your clothes and Tony's clothes had baby clothes, it would be that shirt. Like, if your clothes and his clothes made it, it would be that shirt. What do you mean?
Mike Ryan
Oh, no, I get that I'm wearing in the shirt that he's wearing.
Jeremy
No, not necessarily today. Yeah, our styles. I get it. No, that makes sense.
Tony
So Zaslow, as I was saying, Zaslow and Jerry Jones are aligned. Yeah. Because Jerry Jones says no tribute for Micah Parsons.
Zas
Good.
Tony
Or how does. How does Jerry Jones refer to Micah. Micah Parsons.
Billy Gill
Michael Parsons.
Tony
He says that he is not going to celebrate him. And you. You co sign.
Zas
Absolutely. So they're playing this weekend, packers at Cowboys. So Micah Parsons is making his return to Dallas. I'm so over this. This culture where we have to do tributes to every player who's returning to the venue they played in before. Michael Parsons was a really good player. Guess what the tribute was? The paycheck he got every other week. That's right. That's how we thank you. You get paid to be really, really good if you want a Super Bowl. Okay, then let's have a conversation about a tribute. Otherwise, he played there for what, four or five years, they didn't win. And now we're gonna do a tribute. And you know what? I've also had it with this statue conversation. Can we cool it with the players who get statues? Get the hell out of here. It's enough of this. A tribute. We gotta thank everybody.
Stugats
I think the Heat gave one to Gabe Vincent.
Zas
The Heat, a couple weeks ago when they traded Haywood Eisman. They put out this. This whole picture. Thank you, Haywood. Thank you for what? For what? You got paid. Hey, you got a paycheck that's the. Thank you. What are we doing? Everyone's gonna get tributes.
Billy Gill
Michael Parsons.
Zas
Jerry's right on this.
Billy Gill
Zaz, I don't know how you feel about this, but Greg said that Don Staley shouldn't get a statue. That was too much.
Tony
Why can't we enjoy the celebrating of greatness? What are you objecting to?
Mike Ryan
They're still coaching, though. It's weird, right?
Tony
It's like, oh, Michael Parsons is still playing. What is the explanation that Jerry had was no one sees you.
Billy Gill
Dad.
Tony
Were there quotes from. From Jerry Jones on why it is that he doesn't want to celebrate Michael. Michael Parson with a tribute?
Zas
Yeah, some of the effect of it was different when Emmett came back. You're damn right, Jerry. It's a lot different. When Emmett came back, he won three Super Bowls. Come on, Michael Parsons.
Greg Cody
Pat on the back.
Zas
We appreciate why we're here. And I'll go. Go play for somebody else. Tributes. Hell out of here.
Tony
No. No statue, no tribute. Just a paycheck and a slap on the back. A hard slap on the back.
Zas
Enough of this. Oh, you played for us. Thank you forever.
Jeremy
What the direct quote is. I don't think that's appropriate. It's not this way. Emmett was a different story. That's not to diminish my. I think Micah has Michael Parson enough welcome out there, and we just need to show that we've got antidotes for that.
Zas
He's right. No, I don't know if they have antidotes. Don't really know what's right about the rest of it.
Billy Gill
It'd be great if they thanked him and it said, michael Parsons has enough.
Jeremy
Welcome out there, and we just need to show that we've got antidotes for that. Enough welcome.
Zas
What is that?
Mike Ryan
What does that mean?
Zas
I think he means that, like, enough people are gonna, like, you know, cheer for him.
Jeremy
Antidotes.
Zas
Well, that's. He's talking about their offense. He thinks their offense could be the antidote. I'm not so sure about that.
Tony
It's a strange thing for you to get so angry about. You're getting really fired up.
Zas
It's so lame how we have to thank everyone who played for us. Oh, my God. I agree.
Greg Cody
Zaz is right. I mean, he played four years for the Cowboys.
Zas
Who cares?
Greg Cody
And never won anything. Look, LeBron played four years for the Heat but won two championships. You know, you give him a tribute, you don't give Micah a tribute.
Tony
You guys are sitting here. You guys have decided to take the position of being anti gratitude. That's what you two are doing right now.
Zas
That's what the money's for.
Billy Gill
They're pro appropriate gratitude. They are saying this is inappropriate gratitude. He got his gratitude already.
Greg Cody
Plus the gratitude is something you do in retrospect. This is a few weeks after he was traded. This is the same season he's here to try to beat you today. You don't say, hey, thanks a lot.
Billy Gill
Now go kick our ass, Michael Parsons.
Zas
I'm with you, Jerry.
Billy Gill
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Date: September 23, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This hour of The Dan Le Batard Show delivers the crew’s signature mix of irreverent sports talk, pop culture riffs, and Miami-flavored asides. The main themes cover the perplexing state of the Baltimore Ravens, a spirited discussion of NFL "culture," influencer status squabbles over the new MMA movie The Smashing Machine, the cult hero status of Bas Rutten, and a debate about sports gratitude culture—especially tributes and statues for players. There’s plenty of trademark bickering, offbeat facts (chainsaws, anyone?), and dense banter fans have come to expect.
"How frustrated must Lamar Jackson be right now? The most frustrated superstar in the league." (02:34)
"It's stunning to me to watch the Ravens physically handled by another team... The Baltimore Ravens are going to be a physical football team, to see not only the Lions go in there and physically do that, but their coach to be like... I'm going for it on fourth down and I'm throwing it."
"Is there not genius in being a remarkable leader that can instill that confidence in your team?"
"It's not going to be about math. It's not going to be about percentages. It's simply going to be, I'm going to convey my team all the time that I believe in these players even if I fail believing in them."
"There's nothing that compares to the Lions. ... Two of their best players quit early... That is a national laughing stock. For 50 years."
"I'm now an MMA influencer. I dabble in influencers."
"Because I'm telling you right now, Bas Rutten kills it in that movie. I would give Bas Rutten the best supporting actor Oscar. Like that. Lickety split."
"If I come out here and I say, man, that movie was dreadful. The Rock was horrible... then my influencing game is done. So I just come out here and I say, you know what? Bas Rutten was great in that movie."
"People didn't do leg kicks. ... And then all of a sudden, you can't walk."
"Because I see what things cost, I see what people have, and I'm not a pocket watcher, but I'm watching, I'm curious."
"The chainsaw was invented not for [cutting trees], but for widening the pubic cartilage to aid in child delivery back in the 18th or 19th centuries."
"Minor penalty, two minutes for verbal diarrhea."
"I'm so over this. This culture where we have to do tributes to every player who's returning to the venue they played in before. ... Guess what the tribute was? The paycheck he got every other week."
"You guys have decided to take the position of being anti-gratitude. That's what you two are doing right now."
"They're pro-appropriate gratitude. They are saying this is inappropriate gratitude. He got his gratitude already."
| Time | Speaker | Quote | |--------|---------------|-------| | 02:34 | Greg Cody | "How frustrated must Lamar Jackson be right now? The most frustrated superstar in the league." | | 04:22 | Tony | "It's stunning to me to watch the Ravens physically handled by another team... The Baltimore Ravens are going to be a physical football team..." | | 05:22 | Jeremy | "Is there not genius in being a remarkable leader that can instill that confidence in your team?" | | 07:20 | Tony | "It's not going to be about math. ...I'm going to convey my team all the time that I believe in these players even if I fail believing in them." | | 09:27 | Tony | "There's nothing that compares to the Lions. ...Two of their best players quit early... That is a national LAUGHING stock. For 50 years." | | 15:33 | Billy Gill | "I'm now an MMA influencer. I dabble in influencers." | | 19:17 | Billy Gill | "Bas Rutten kills it in that movie. I would give Bas Rutten the best supporting actor Oscar. Like that. Lickety split." | | 21:44 | Billy Gill | "If I come out here and I say, man, that movie was dreadful. The rock was horrible... then my influencing game is done. So I just come out here and I say, you know what? Baz Rutten was great in that movie." | | 22:19 | Mike Ryan | "People didn't do leg kicks. ...And then all of a sudden, you can't walk." | | 30:20 | Greg Cody | "The chainsaw was invented not for [cutting trees], but for widening the pubic cartilage to aid in child delivery back in the 18th or 19th centuries." | | 34:08 | Zas | "Minor penalty, two minutes for verbal diarrhea." | | 36:17 | Zas | "I'm so over this. This culture where we have to do tributes to every player who's returning to the venue they played in before. ... Guess what the tribute was? The paycheck he got every other week." | | 39:48 | Tony | "You guys have decided to take the position of being anti-gratitude. That's what you two are doing right now." | | 39:58 | Billy Gill | "They're pro-appropriate gratitude. They are saying this is inappropriate gratitude. He got his gratitude already." |
In sum: This hour is a showcase of the Dan Le Batard Show at its chaotic, insightful, and hilariously self-referential best. From NFL oddities to MMA Oscars, you’ll get sports talk as only this crew delivers.