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Dan Le Batard
You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network. Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
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Stugotz
Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
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Chris Cody
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
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Pat Forde
The guy who wanted to pay me.
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Stugotz
In foreign currency, no interest over 36 months.
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Pat Forde
Yeah, no.
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Stugotz
Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
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Chris Cody
Just like that.
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Pat Forde
Yep.
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Dan Le Batard
No hassle?
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Chris Cody
None. That is super convenient.
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Dan Le Batard
Sell your car to Carvana and swap.
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Stugotz
Hassle.
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Chris Cody
For convenience.
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Mike Ryan
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Chris Cody
I don't think we around here have done a very good job of talking about these gambling stories involving Johnte Porter or more recently, Terry Rozier when he was in Charlotte. You can listen to the podcast of Pat40, College Football Inquirer. He does it with Dan Wetzel and Ross Dellinger, but he's also a senior writer for Sports Illustrated, and he just reported with Michael Rosenberg the latest news inside a gambling ring. That will look to me from where I'm standing, this could be a monster story here. And it seems like it's becoming something that will become larger in days and weeks. But Pat joins us now with some of his fresher reporting. And Pat, why is it that that people aren't paying attention to some of the things you're paying attention to here that has, you know, federal and NCAA authorities investigating something in a way that feels like a more relevant investigation than the average NCAA investigation, which can be pretty useless. And thank you for joining us, by the way.
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Pat Forde
Yeah, hey, happy to be with you. And yeah, this is an interesting one that. That could get significantly more interesting. I agree. Why aren't people paying as much attention? Well, for one thing, you know, John Porter first of all is a bit player in the NBA who's been banned. So he's past tense. Terry Rosarias kept playing to the surprise of some, but there's an investigation underway there into one game in particular when he was at Charlotte. The college stuff is generally speaking with lower level schools that are under investigation. And I think it's easy for people to tune out what may be happening at Eastern Michigan or North Carolina A and T or Mississippi Valley State or even even Temple and some others. So you know, I think it's one of those we're going to the more this kind of succeeds upon itself and builds upon itself, the more people are going to be forced to pay attention. We're coming up to March, Dan, when people really start to lock in on college basketball. And I think there's going to be reason to worry and wonder how many schools have gambling problems.
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Chris Cody
All right, Pat, let's talk about this though because I do believe that these uneasy tensions between so much of the gambling money being responsible for for floating what's happening in sports right now and you can get in bed with lower level schools and make yourself money in a way that really threatens the integrity of what it is that we're watching. So just take us through some of your humanizing investigation of the characters involved here because this is you're doing reporting here and you're meetings basically. These gambling characters that of course are going to be kind of from the underworld and know how to get in bed with, you know, kids who want to make a few extra thousand dollars.
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Pat Forde
Ye not exactly choir boys involved in this as you would not be surprised to find out. The two characters that we honed in on the story. One is named Shane Hennan, a gambler who was arrested at the Las Vegas airport last month as he was attempting to go to Columbia on a one way ticket. He has been linked to the Porter gambling ring. And then another guy named Marvis Fairley from Mississippi who is his name is not come out publicly but he has been described by Shane Hennin himself as my partner. And both these guys have gambling tout services. They also have lengthy criminal records. Shane Hennan has been involved with cocaine trafficking, an assault, violations of parole and then again was was just arrested last month. Marvis Fairley was up on a murder rap which he was ended up did not get convicted or due time for, but has had several brushes with the law himself. And as you alluded to the schools that we're talking about here, first of all, yeah, there's not a lot of players that are flush with nil money. There's not a lot of guys that have NBA futures that they need to protect. So could they be more vulnerable to being compromised? Yes, they could. The other thing, these are largely bad teams at lower Levels. The University of New Orleans came out today from Jeff Goodman that for their top five scores have not played since January during a gambling investigation. Does anybody notice if New Orleans has a gambling problem, if their players are sitting out, if Eastern Michigan does, if Mississippi Valley does, These are the worst programs, generally speaking, in Division 1. And there's just not a lot of attention being paid to what's happening there.
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Dan Le Batard
So how are people, investigators finding out about this? Like you mentioned, there are a lot of small bad teams. How are you, you know, catching wind of this as a reporter?
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Pat Forde
Yeah, it's a good question, Jessica. And really it comes back to the gambling watchdogs that we have in place now to monitor legal wagering are much more attuned to who's doing the betting, where and how. And so this goes back, you know, the Porter stuff that, that was, that was discovered in and of itself. But the temple thing in particular, there was a game March 7 last year against UAB where the first half line shot out of the stratosphere. And so all of a sudden it's like, what's going on there? And people notice and they may be able to track who is betting and where. And I think some of this stuff originates with offshore wagering and offshore books that are kind of saying, wait a minute, something's not right here. And they will alert integrity monitors and then those people will start watching. And when you had the Temple UAB game last year, all of a sudden they're putting out an alert nationwide to regulators saying, take the game off your books. And so then you start there and it's just kind of peeling back layers of an onion. One thing leads to another, needs to another.
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Chris Cody
What are the dumbest things you uncovered?
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Pat Forde
Well, I would say the most unusual. Not bets that have actually been tied to game fixing, but Shane Hennin bet a first half line on a Big South Conference quarter final between Longwood and Campbell. Would you do that? Unless you thought you had a pretty good amount of insight on that. He bet $300,000 on an ACC tournament game. That's a lot of money. Now, it's a high profile game, but 300,000. I talked to some bookmakers who said we wouldn't even take a bet that big.
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Chris Cody
The reason I, the reason I bring it up is because you've got something that is truly amateur, that is like many of these point fixing scandals in the history of sports, at the very least do us the courtesy of having criminals who have sort of ability to conceal these things. What you're talking about here could potentially become a seismic gambling sports scandal that starts with real stupidity.
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Pat Forde
Yeah, it starts with, with greed or recklessness or whatever. You know, I mean, these we are dealing with, and I've talked to people when we were, you know, going through the reporting of this is like, what kind of people are doing this? Like gambling addicts, adrenaline addicts, people who can't keep quiet, people who can't, you know, get a big score and then keep it to themselves. They got to brag about it. And so that just breeds a recklessness that, that I think maybe got emboldened. And especially if you were having success doing this offshore and maybe your conduit offshore was cut off and you had to then go to North American bookmakers. Well, there's a little more regulation there, a little more oversight. You may just overstep your bounds. So we're not talking about people who are necessarily the most disciplined, button down. Nefarious gamblers.
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Mike Ryan
So part of your article also talked about how Shane would go and hustle people in private poker games and decided to tell them he was his brother for some reason, which seems like, best case scenario, they find out that you're cheating them and then they come after your brother instead of you. What is the thinking in that?
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Pat Forde
Good question there. I, you know, that that's been alleged by people in the poker world that, that Shane Hennon was a card cheat. He and some of the other guys actually who have been arrested in the Porter gambling ring. You know, I, I did have somebody say to me that, that Shane Hennon's fairly fortunate to kind of to still be in one piece if what has been alleged about him is true. If you've been a, a cocaine dealer and you've been a card sheet and you've, you may be trying to work the margins on, on game fixing, you're damn gambling or you're dabbling in a lot of risky behaviors, I guess you would say. But the poker world, which. There is a poker world. I'm not familiar with it, but there is a poker world out there. And they're all like, oh, yeah, that guy. I'm not surprised he's involved. Same with this guy, Bruce Pham, who was in the, the Jonte Porter case.
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Chris Cody
Forgive me, I wasn't listening to anything you said because throughout your answer, Jessica and Billy were taunting me because they got you to say good. And none of my questions have been any good.
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Pat Forde
Why don't you keep asking and you'll get to a good one.
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Stugotz
Big moment here, Dan. Let's go.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, but now he knows. So he's just going to say good question.
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Chris Cody
Or, or, well, let's see.
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Stugotz
I'll give it away.
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Chris Cody
Pat, we'll find out together here. Your best guess, based on the reporting this mushroom clouds into what kind of scandal?
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Pat Forde
That is an excellent question.
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Mike Ryan
Come on, Pat.
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Stugotz
Just come on out.
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Chris Cody
Excellent.
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Pat Forde
I'm here to make friends with everybody.
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Mike Ryan
Not Henin.
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Chris Cody
Yeah.
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Pat Forde
No.
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Chris Cody
And not his friend who you just outed, either. His partner. You outed his partner and he didn't have anything that he wasn't even in this paperwork.
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Pat Forde
I, you know, I think that there potentially is more at the NBA level. I think that's being looked at. I am sure there is more at the college level that's being looked at. How big does this get? I can't tell you. You know, do we. Are we going to have 50 schools under investigation? Probably not. One thing that's interesting here, I mean, I've heard names of a half dozen other schools, most of them on the lower levels. There's a lot of eligibility cases where if it's just players who are gambling, the NCAA doesn't even release eligibility ruling. So there might have been guys that sat out six games, 12 games a whole season that nobody knows why for sure. So it's kind of going to be hard, I think, to quantify this. But I also talked with a gambling expert just before the show here who said it's inevitable that this gets to the Kansas, Kentucky stage. Now, nothing specifically Kansas, Kentucky, but that big name programs could eventually get exposed for having gambling issues.
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Dan Le Batard
So if something like that were to happen and then a player would go into the pros and it would be revealed that they were part of something like this, Is there like, recourse the NBA can have on suspending a player for this type of behavior, too?
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Pat Forde
I don't know. That's. I'm not sure what the, you know, like the retroactive situation could be, but, you know, I think the, the NBA has gotten a little bit of a black eye over this between Porter and at least the rosier investigation, even if that has not yet yielded anything that I think they'd be pretty hypersensitive to having players that in any way fix the game or threw their own personal props or anything like that. Just, you know, it's not the kind of thing you want to have associated with your league, that's for sure.
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Chris Cody
Rozier is shooting 30% from 3 worst among point guards. He's presently and actively throwing games.
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Stugotz
Well, they finally put him on the bench so he can't do that, will.
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Chris Cody
You explain to me the Rozier situation? You were skeptical of why he's still playing. What's fair there?
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Pat Forde
Well, I mean, you know, that is probably fair and that's probably been the decision they've reached of just the, you know, unless we have something tangible to go on, we're not going to sit him down. I guess the one thing I would like to hear from him and. Or his attorney is, hell, no, I didn't do it. I really haven't heard that from them. You know, they.
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Chris Cody
But in the, in the absence of that, when you have the credibility of these reports, Pat, in the absence of a denial, what legally is making it so that he can still be out there? When this happened to Porter, and the evidence was very swiftly determined. This is a person who needs to be banned from our league. Those are two very different reactions to similar reports.
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Pat Forde
They are, absolutely. And so what, you know, the original report, this. This was a game in March, March 23, 2023. And the NBA says it looked into it and found no wrongdoing. Now, that clearly was not good enough for the Fed's Eastern district of New York is investigating and has told the NBA that. So, you know, is there something there that the NBA was able to in good conscience say, no, we don't think so. And then the Heat and Terry Rozier and everybody else involved could say, look, we've got a good explanation for this. I need to keep. Be able to keep playing. But clearly that needs to be explained to the federal investigators as well.
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Chris Cody
Last question, and thank you for the time. It used to, to me mean something if there was a dual federal and NCAA investigation, but that wiretapping of college coaches before nil became a thing was such a lukewarm disaster that, like, the investigators had less credibility than the people in the inside of the business doing what was allegedly dirty. So when you tell me Sports Illustrated is reporting that federal and NCAA authorities are investigating a gambling link, a gambling ring that used to be a seismic story, it does not feel like a seismic story today. It feels like you're reporting on something that I think is interesting, that should be more seismic, but it's not. So my question is. My question to you is why, like, this is the beginning of this, Pat, this law. We are in a lawless phase where, of course, if you invite all of this stuff to sports and all of the gambling walls fall, of course there's going to be this all over the place with competitionaholics and with addicts.
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Pat Forde
Yeah, no, look, I mean, I can't tell you that this is going to be Watergate. And I think your skepticism of both the NCAA and the feds when it comes to college basketball is well warranted because it became an absolute farce. The. The. The investigation back in 2017, 18, whatever it was, you know, is this going to yield a lot? I don't know. There's been some speculation, and I can't tell you whether it's completely accurate or not, but that if the. If the feds have a choice of expending their efforts on NBA players or a guy at North Carolina A and T, they're not going to care that much about the college end of this, and maybe this fizzles out. But I do know the NCAA is certainly actively looking into things. And again, you know, we're seeing players in a lot of different places who are suddenly not playing. Fresno State just benched two guys over the weekend and had a third who hadn't played since January. Again, the New Orleans thing I mentioned. North Carolina A&T's had two players that have stopped playing, so it's affecting a lot of places right now. Is it going to lead to a mushroom cloud, as you said? I don't know. Maybe at least just a good smoke cloud.
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Chris Cody
Can you guys tell me what that distracting color is behind? Pat, how would you describe that color?
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Stugotz
The delightful red.
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Dan Le Batard
I think it's like a garnet.
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Chris Cody
Is it. Is it what? Is it? Is it Ruby? Is it crimson? Is it. Ruby's good.
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Pat Forde
I like Ruby. I would go with Ruby. I think so. My shirt kind of almost matches. Like, the.
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Chris Cody
Right. It does not.
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Stugotz
It actually matches the undershirt. Did you do that on purpose?
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Pat Forde
It's.
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Chris Cody
It does match the undershirt.
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Pat Forde
I wake up every day planning how I'm going to look on the Dan Levitar.
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Chris Cody
There we go. All right. There it is. Red wine. A little red wine.
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Stugotz
Cabernet is good.
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Pat Forde
Burgundy. Burgundy, right. Goodness.
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Stugotz
Clearly not Burgundy.
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Dan Le Batard
That's actually how I wake up, so don't make too much fun.
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Chris Cody
Good seeing you, Pat. Thank you for the information, sir.
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Pat Forde
All right. Thank you.
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Mike Ryan
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Stugotz
What's up?
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Chris Cody
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Stugotz
Over whether to paint your walls eggshell.
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Chris Cody
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Stugotz
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Chris Cody
Didn't even have to do any paperwork. Wow.
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Chris Cody
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Dan Le Batard
I sent you for our dinner? Options finance your car with Carvana. And experience total control financing subject to credit approval.
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Chris Cody
Don Levotard.
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Stugotz
I mean, they used to call me Chris. Karaoke stugats.
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Chris Cody
That back row is bringing it today.
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Mike Ryan
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Stugotz
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Chris Cody
We have some anarchists among our production team. We have some anarchists all around. I believe Taylor is one of them. I don't know if Taylor is trying to keep his employment by making purposefully bad things, but he seems to make some purposefully bad things and delight in the making of bad things. Is this. That's a way to career advancement. So we put him in charge of boldest take. And I gotta tell you, this used to be a cherished terrain for us. I will tell you that Billy and Chris, even before Billy and Chris were on this show, we trained our audience to be creative, competitively, at funny. And the remnants of that audience that now call this take line insults me, insults the history of this show insults everything we've made around here for 20 years. Because some people just call the take line and just start talking to a friend, like for five minutes, just yammering. And it's not a take, it's not funny. It's not people trying to be creative. It's just people calling and leaving voicemails in a way that hasn't had a lot of creativity in it.
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Stugotz
But that's. Those don't make air. Those just. Taylor has to listen to those. So that's okay.
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Chris Cody
This is the best of what we've got. This is the refined version of Taylor taking the very best calls, editing them down to their distilled best, and they're not good enough.
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Mike Ryan
I would also tell you that I've gotten this from Taylor. If you're calling and he sees, because he can see the length of these files before he listens. If he sees that it is more than like two minutes, he's not listening to it at all. So you're just wasting your time and not even anyone else's, just yours. Because it's not getting listened to.
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Dan Le Batard
I was gonna say like 45 seconds. Two minutes is generous.
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Mike Ryan
Well, some of them are like five minute songs. Like, nope.
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Chris Cody
I meet people all the time who have been listening to our show for 20 years. And those people know how embarrassing it is that this creative community that used to compete to be funny has shriveled down to Taylor. Can't take more than two minutes of what you're doing. On the other line. 305-486-GOTZ is the number. We've got a purchased phone line. G O T Z is the number. We went out and got a ph and align so that you can do this.
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Stugotz
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Chris Cody
Last ten days or so.
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Stugotz
That's right.
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Chris Cody
Of our creative community shriveled down to this.
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Stugotz
That's right.
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Pat Forde
I think the way we demonize the.
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Chris Cody
Chef and ratatouille seemed a little bit too much. I also would not be eating food from Iraq.
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Pat Forde
How good would the food have to.
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Chris Cody
Be if the entire kitchen were rats?
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Mike Ryan
What is the obsession of America with bagels? Bagels Overrated.
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Chris Cody
Yeah, this is Brian out of Columbus. I got a hot take for you. Every Bob Seger song is One minute too long. Yo, it's your boy P representing southwest Florida. My bold take is any candy with.
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Venmo Ad Voice
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Chris Cody
Candy, candy corn, candy cans.
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Mike Ryan
Hey, Dan, Mike in Arlington, Virginia, calling. My bold take is that restaurants should not have menus, so they instead they just make one or two dishes for whatever meal it is.
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Pat Forde
And then you sit down and the waiter tells you what you're having.
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Mike Ryan
You know, they can all. They can even post it online what they're making that day. So you know not to go if you don't want what they're making. It's kind of a plato del dia situation. But all they have is el plate idea.
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Unknown Speaker
This is Jack on a mobile in California. My hot take is that the Monstars would have beaten Michael Jordan in Space Jam if they had any kind of good roster makeup. Okay, they had Larry Johnson. They had Charles Barkley, Sean Bradley, Mugsy Bogues, and Patrick Ewing.
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Chris Cody
He's right.
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Pat Forde
They have no one who can guard.
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Unknown Speaker
Michael Jordan at the point of attack. They have all these biggs just waiting in the paint for him to get dunked on. This is Space Jam.
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Pat Forde
He could dunk from half court. If they had picked Scottie Pippen over Larry Johnson.
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Chris Cody
Monsters win that game.
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Stugotz
Hey, the listeners brought. It was pretty good. Some bold takes there. Every Bob Seger song One Minute too long. Is that true?
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Chris Cody
Bagels Overrated. I was also told that people just didn't know where to put them. So there were an assortment of Michael doiak songs. Have you heard anything about this? Because Taylor's Telling me he's got Michael Doleak songs.
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Stugotz
What is this music Bed.
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Chris Cody
We chose a wonderful one. It's the. It makes the entirety of the segments hold music.
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Stugotz
He said any candy with the word candy in it is trash candy corn, candy cane. I think he said one more, but I can't remember it.
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Chris Cody
That is cotton candy.
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Stugotz
Cotton candy. All like. He's spot on. Bagel take. Playfully anti semitic, right? Whoa.
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Chris Cody
Who says bagels are overrated? Who does that?
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Dan Le Batard
It's a terrible taste.
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Stugotz
Bagels are delicious.
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Amin Elhassan
I got a great bagel story. Dan Marley told me this story when he was playing for the Suns when he was a rookie. They used to practice at the JCC in Phoenix because they didn't have a practice facility back then. And every day they would let us set out bagels for them after practice. And I think it was Tim Perry was his teammate. But anyway, he's sitting at the lockers and they're saying, how's training camp going? Like, not bad. And Tim Perry says, some hard ass donuts, though.
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Chris Cody
Jessica, what happened to you there? Were you just that the casual way of means strolled right back in, grabs the show and then tells an uninteresting story. Is that what you.
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Dan Le Batard
The punchline was a good payoff, but he did seem like he was petering out while telling it.
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Chris Cody
Just forgot who he was talking about.
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Stugotz
And Peter in the middle.
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Chris Cody
It doesn't usually happen, but he comes in and out as he pleases. Let's get. Let's get back to something that I.
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Mike Ryan
Wanted to do because they're bagels, not donuts. But he thought. And it was harder because it's different consistency.
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Chris Cody
I'm not saying it's not a worthy story. I'm saying he walked in kind of casually. I don't know whether we were interrupting whatever he was doing with Oddball. And he's like, I got it. Everybody stand back. And here. Donuts. They're hard. When they're hard, they're bagels. Hey, hey.
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Amin Elhassan
That's not. Well, that's.
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Dan Le Batard
I wanted to make my monstar Jerry Krause joke, but then you.
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Stugotz
Another great take by Alison.
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Chris Cody
That was a good take.
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Stugotz
At the end of the day, when a mean wants the ball, you give him the ball.
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Chris Cody
300-548-6, gotz. Is that telephone number do better. Some scouts and some spies have sent me video of my friend Michael K. From New York. I don't know if you guys have ever been surprised by one of your friends how well they dance, but sometimes I get surprised by my friends. So just put that in the lower right hand corner, please, of somebody who just sent me a photo video of Michael K. Dancing, because he. Carrot Top surprised me when I saw Carrot Top, and he was more shredded than I thought he would ever be. And it surprised me when I learned that Michael K. Here was this good of a dancer. Have any of your friends surprised you with how good they. How well they dance? Because Coogler surprised us the other day. But have you guys ever been surprised? Like, if Darren Ravel all of a sudden or David Sampson were just killer dancers, wouldn't that surprise you if they were really good dancers?
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Stugotz
I know we're talking Coogler, but I've often gotten this. People are sometimes surprised by how I can move.
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Chris Cody
You're a rhythmic dancer.
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Stugotz
Yeah, you know, I can do my thing.
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Mike Ryan
You're jealous of Coogler.
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Stugotz
I'm just saying. I would have thought me. I would have been mentioned first. But we can say Coogler.
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Unknown Speaker
He's a good guy.
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Stugotz
I imagine you as Kevin James in Hitch, where someone really has to tell you to just kind of keep it in a real specific box. I do the Michael limbs are flying everywhere. I do the Michael Jackson kick a little too often, but.
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Chris Cody
You do. Yeah, he does it a lot.
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Amin Elhassan
Let's see it right here.
- [25:52]
Stugotz
I really like it. You guys offended me. Let's watch Cougs dance. Cougs, why don't you come in here and dance?
- [25:55]
Dan Le Batard
He's done it on Mystery.
- [25:56]
Chris Cody
He's done it well.
- [25:57]
Stugotz
No, no, no, it's fine. Let's have Cougs dance.
- [25:59]
Chris Cody
He did it before a Panthers game. That's how he does do it.
- [26:02]
Stugotz
It's a nervous pan He.
- [26:04]
Chris Cody
He has a nervous tech that when he throws out the he, it's a crowd.
- [26:09]
Stugotz
I know what a winner is.
- [26:10]
Chris Cody
I have a winner he.
- [26:12]
Mike Ryan
Oh, wow.
- [26:12]
Stugotz
Cougs, really good dancer. I mean, geez, what are we doing here?
- [26:16]
Chris Cody
I can't believe we saluted this.
- [26:19]
Stugotz
I mean, look at the person, the rhythm.
- [26:22]
Mike Ryan
Look at the way he physically looks.
- [26:24]
Stugotz
And then his dance. I've actually seen Cougs a video of him dancing at a wedding, and he actually can dance.
- [26:28]
Amin Elhassan
I'm about to say, because this looks like Greg Cody when we sent him up to the dance to try out, he was dancing like that.
- [26:33]
Stugotz
You remember?
- [26:34]
Chris Cody
This is foreshadowing. And it's just. It's just.
- [26:36]
Stugotz
I'm in for a dance off.
- [26:37]
Amin Elhassan
Oh, wait, what's going on with my man in the beard in the back?
- [26:39]
Chris Cody
Yeah, we've already analyzed that. You and Coogler, you and Cougar. That's why not today the way you do. It's why you should be here when we're talking.
- [26:46]
Stugotz
We're gonna build up to it. I'm not doing it today. I need to prepare, but I'll have a dance off.
- [26:49]
Mike Ryan
What do you need to do to prepare for a dance off?
- [26:51]
Stugotz
You know, look in the mirror, see what I'm working with. No, I need to know what song we're gonna do it to. I'm not just doing this willy nilly.
- [26:56]
Mike Ryan
I don't think dance offs are choreographed. I think that you just go out there, you kind of like. Like, react to the music. If you. If you have, like, a choreographed dance off, you're cheating. Like, it's not a routine. It's a dance off.
- [27:06]
Stugotz
I disagree.
- [27:07]
Dan Le Batard
I like the elevator format, too. I think you guys should do the.
- [27:10]
Stugotz
In an elevator.
- [27:11]
Dan Le Batard
In an elevator. I like.
- [27:12]
Stugotz
Who can do the Michael K. The.
- [27:14]
Mike Ryan
Same elevator or different elevators going up? The same.
- [27:17]
Stugotz
It's a K off.
- [27:17]
Dan Le Batard
It reminds me of Porsche in Arrested Development doing the dance during the protest inside the cage.
- [27:22]
Stugotz
I need, like, some things to hold on to, girl. It's very important here in this. Michael K wouldn't be doing this if he didn't have these nice bars to hang on to. Some elevators don't have the bars.
- [27:31]
Amin Elhassan
Our elevators have bars.
- [27:33]
Stugotz
Okay.
- [27:33]
Amin Elhassan
Our elevators.
- [27:34]
Chris Cody
We need to do this.
- [27:35]
Amin Elhassan
But I do have a question. Dan, who held the elevator door open for him? Because that. Elevator doors.
- [27:42]
Stugotz
No, the door is to this. His right. Like, you can see the sign on the side of the door. Like, this is the side of the elevator.
- [27:48]
Chris Cody
Oh, I just.
- [27:49]
Amin Elhassan
In the elevator with him.
- [27:51]
Chris Cody
I just had no idea.
- [27:52]
Stugotz
On the floor.
- [27:52]
Chris Cody
No idea.
- [27:53]
Stugotz
Put his phone down. Tilted up, you can see the door is to the left.
- [27:58]
Chris Cody
That is a closed elevator. Again, it's something that Amin's giving us that's not helpful because he came in during the middle of the segment and has been behind since we started.
- [28:05]
Amin Elhassan
Did you guys describe the video?
- [28:06]
Chris Cody
No, you didn't. You've been talking about it nonstop. You were away. You didn't hear us.
- [28:09]
Amin Elhassan
I was here.
- [28:10]
Chris Cody
You did what?
- [28:11]
Amin Elhassan
When you said. You ever see your friends and say, I didn't know they could dance like that, my friend.
- [28:15]
Stugotz
Guys, you need a detente. Let's listen, guys, both of you take a deep breath.
- [28:18]
Chris Cody
You've got John Sterling holding this door open when they're clearly on the right side. There's an elevator door open.
- [28:25]
Amin Elhassan
It's in the corner.
- [28:26]
Mike Ryan
How am I supposed to Neil holding.
- [28:27]
Stugotz
Over the door for Michael Ken.
- [28:29]
Mike Ryan
John Sterling, 86.
- [28:35]
Stugotz
Why is. Why are they putting Mike Fuentes up there? This is not how we're making editorial decision.
- [28:42]
Chris Cody
Wait a minute. No, Listen to me.
- [28:43]
Pat Forde
Not good.
- [28:44]
Chris Cody
Listen to me. Listen to me right now. The video team making this decision without any supervision. All of you to the penalty box.
- [28:52]
Pat Forde
All of you.
- [28:53]
Chris Cody
All, every one of you. You're not allowed to just put Fuentes making a fool of himself out there.
- [28:59]
Stugotz
Is twerking on the wall. I want that room empty.
- [29:01]
Dan Le Batard
No, like, that means we're going to be stuck on whatever shot we're.
- [29:04]
Chris Cody
I don't care. I don't care. We will keep it the same. I will not have those people making decisions for major penalty.
- [29:13]
Pat Forde
Five minutes.
- [29:13]
Stugotz
Spooning comedy.
- [29:14]
Chris Cody
Wait.
- [29:14]
Stugotz
All right, take us then go. Take us then. Go. No, they're just ao finger.
- [29:21]
Chris Cody
I don't care. Like, you can't put Fuentes on.
- [29:23]
Mike Ryan
And why is Izzy pick.
- [29:25]
Dan Le Batard
He was shaking that thing Because Izzy's.
- [29:27]
Amin Elhassan
Doing the meeting that I jumped out of to do this.
- [29:29]
Stugotz
God, thank you for that. Thank you, Amin.
- [29:31]
Amin Elhassan
How about that?
- [29:33]
Chris Cody
A real heroic gesture by Amin.
- [29:35]
Amin Elhassan
This would never happen in Hollywood.
- [29:38]
Unknown Speaker
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- [29:52]
Chris Cody
I'm good.
- [29:52]
Unknown Speaker
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- [30:44]
Venmo Ad Voice
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- [30:50]
Chris Cody
Yep.
- [30:51]
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- [32:02]
Chris Cody
Don LeBatard.
- [32:03]
Stugotz
Mr. Mr.
- [32:04]
Dan Le Batard
Shirt. If I may say for a second Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face. My shirt. All right, so that's one thing.
- [32:17]
Chris Cody
Stugats.
- [32:18]
Dan Le Batard
They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants.
- [32:24]
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.
- [32:34]
Chris Cody
Chris Cody. I need to get get to something that I promised earlier in the show and I am ashamed that I have not done it until now. You had a great idea for a popular new show that I believe can be something that metal arc funds and sponsors and makes lots of money, which is just playing clips and asking you, is this patriotic or is it annoying?
- [32:53]
Stugotz
I would love to play that game with you but I'm going to need the video team back because they're going to have to cut to something and catch 22.
- [33:00]
Amin Elhassan
Dano.
- [33:00]
Chris Cody
Yeah, it is. But I don't need them. I can move to any number of other topics. I'll spin that wheel again. Don't make me me. I'll spin that wheel with those football topics on it all over again. No, I don't want you guys back in there. No, I don't need you back in there.
- [33:12]
Stugotz
Look, it's like an encore. They just walked back in. Like the encore is happening. Guys, here we are.
- [33:16]
Chris Cody
I don't need them. They look, they need to be punished. There need to be consequences for. I don't have many rules around here. Here's one of them. Once we've gotten the Fuentes twerking. No, just. No, like, just that. That.
- [33:31]
Amin Elhassan
There it is again.
- [33:33]
Chris Cody
How is that able to. Not even good if they're not in the room? How is that able.
- [33:37]
Amin Elhassan
Dana, have you been watching the TV show Paradise? There's a point where one of the characters puts it on a loop and then leaves. And they can't figure out, I gotta reboot the whole system to stop. And you watch Paradise.
- [33:48]
Mike Ryan
I think that video. We're courtesying Jaron, who used to work for us, like, years ago. Like, we put a courtesy on it. It's just Jaron's Instagram.
- [33:55]
Dan Le Batard
Also, the question was person that you expected to be bad at dancing, that was better than you expected? So since I thought Fuentes would be really bad at dancing, I think this actually is a good example.
- [34:06]
Stugotz
So good for a 40 year old.
- [34:08]
Chris Cody
So Fuentes is somebody you thought would be bad at dancing? Has anyone else around here been surprised? Just really. There have to be some good stories there from people just being really taken aback because you're. You're all of a sudden at a wedding and you look over to your right and you're like, holy shit. I didn't know Carl Ravitch had those moves. I didn't.
- [34:27]
Mike Ryan
Oh, Ravi can cut a rug.
- [34:30]
Amin Elhassan
Pablo Torre at his wedding.
- [34:31]
Chris Cody
You think Pablo's a good dancer?
- [34:33]
Stugotz
Well, that video, that would shock me.
- [34:35]
Amin Elhassan
The only thing I saw was that one video. And I was impressed. I was impressed. I didn't think Pablo had, but then I remembered Pablo's Filipino, so technically he's an embarrassment.
- [34:44]
Mike Ryan
He should be dancing a lot more.
- [34:45]
Amin Elhassan
And a lot better. No, I know all about that.
- [34:47]
Stugotz
All right, let's play patriotic or annoying. All right, we're gonna play a video here. Imagine you're on a plane, all right? You're having a nice long flight, and all of a sudden somebody walks to the front of the thing, grabs the little microphone that the, you know, the flight attendants talk on. And relax. And he sings. And this is what you hear. Is this patriotic or annoying?
- [35:24]
Venmo Ad Voice
Cause there ain't no doubt of this way.
- [35:29]
Chris Cody
God bless the usa.
- [35:35]
Stugotz
All right, let's go around the room. I mean, is that patriotic or annoying?
- [35:39]
Amin Elhassan
Why you started with me?
- [35:40]
Stugotz
I would be annoyed. If I'm on that flight and all of a sudden people are singing, I'm like, no, no, thanks.
- [35:45]
Dan Le Batard
Is Chris Cody anti American?
- [35:47]
Stugotz
Yeah, put it on the pole, Dan. I'll be anti American if that's. I don't want that on my flight. No, I mean, we can all agree that sucks, right? I'm good in the terminal. Maybe the terminal before the flight. Insecurity. Let's get a song going in security.
- [35:59]
Amin Elhassan
Do we know each other?
- [36:01]
Stugotz
Do we know each other, me and you?
- [36:03]
Chris Cody
No.
- [36:03]
Amin Elhassan
The people on this flight. On this hypothetical flight.
- [36:05]
Stugotz
Do all 192 people on this flight know each other? I doubt it.
- [36:08]
Amin Elhassan
Then, no.
- [36:09]
Mike Ryan
Where. Where was that coming from or going to? Because they all seemed, like, in on it.
- [36:14]
Stugotz
Yeah.
- [36:14]
Mike Ryan
Like, this seemed, like, not a themed flight, but, like, they were all kind of, like, aligned on January.
- [36:21]
Chris Cody
But no, wait a minute. This is a MAGA anthem. Lee Greenwood like, this. John Oliver did a whole big special.
- [36:26]
Stugotz
On I won't let that. On how it was written for Canada. It's an American song.
- [36:30]
Amin Elhassan
Was it?
- [36:30]
Chris Cody
But it's not.
- [36:31]
Stugotz
He literally wrote Proud to be a Canadian.
- [36:33]
Chris Cody
It's.
- [36:34]
Stugotz
It's the same exact words, except for.
- [36:36]
Amin Elhassan
How to be a Canadian.
- [36:38]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that's right.
- [36:38]
Venmo Ad Voice
Well, at least I have health care.
- [36:41]
Dan Le Batard
Isn't that the words?
- [36:42]
Pat Forde
I.
- [36:43]
Mike Ryan
When we were leaving. When we were leaving New Orleans. I have never experienced a fun airport like they were having when we were leaving New Orleans. Like. Like, the people at security were dancing because they had, like, a band set up that was playing, like, in, like, the central patio area. Dude, they were having so much fun, like, while we were going through, like, to the point that I'm like. I'm like, I'm fine for you to, like, check my bag again. Like, has I noticed you're, like, doing a little dip when we were checking something. Like, we can go through this one more time. Like, I got plenty of time here. A lot of fun was being had at that airport. I kind of liked it. People like doing their jobs.
- [37:15]
Dan Le Batard
I feel like the airport's not the fun place to be right now, though. You were. You just flew this morning. I mean, I feel like a new horror story every minute.
- [37:22]
Mike Ryan
What's this new, like, trend that people are putting on the Internet where they're Like, I can get through airport security into my gate in 10 minutes at every airport ever. And it's like, I've never experienced this at any airport ever. How do you guys keep getting from, like, the door of your car to your gate in seven minutes?
- [37:39]
Amin Elhassan
Because they're cutting out the waiting time.
- [37:41]
Mike Ryan
I know, but why? Why are they, like. Why the video? Why are they lying about this?
- [37:46]
Amin Elhassan
Because. Because, Billy, it's the Internet. This is where we are. Web 3.0 clout. Yep. It doesn't matter. But people.
- [37:53]
Chris Cody
People are flying. Vastly more scared, though. You're getting a lot of videos of people getting onto airplanes, like, in a prayerful state, because of the amount of terror involved with. Hey, what is that happening on a Delta Runway in Canada? Why is the plane upside down and on fire?
- [38:08]
Amin Elhassan
Well, a couple things. Number one, don't use the word terror, because when it comes to planes, that has a very specific connotation. I know what you meant. Like, as in terrifying, but terror planes, not so much.
- [38:17]
Chris Cody
Right.
- [38:17]
Amin Elhassan
All right. Number two, we are actually behind pace from last year in terms of accidents up until this point.
- [38:25]
Mike Ryan
So big win.
- [38:26]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, we're actually doing better.
- [38:28]
Chris Cody
Okay. Progress.
- [38:29]
Stugotz
The Internet would not tell you that.
- [38:30]
Dan Le Batard
Is this the Streisand effect? I mean.
- [38:33]
Amin Elhassan
Yes.
- [38:34]
Chris Cody
And fear is the way that one spreads. And it would be totally understandable if you feel like there's some instability in structures, government and otherwise, given a number of things that are happening.
- [38:47]
Dan Le Batard
The crash in D.C. where all the people died, even if it counts as one crash, actually should count as more because that hasn't happened in the US for, like, decades.
- [38:57]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. Like, people, like, two aircrafts crashing into.
- [38:59]
Dan Le Batard
Each other and several dozen people crashed.
- [39:01]
Amin Elhassan
Fatalities. Yeah.
- [39:02]
Stugotz
So you're just saying, when you say that we're having a down year, that's just like regular crashes that don't involve collisions.
- [39:06]
Chris Cody
It's late February, and he's talking. He's playing semantics with lives in a way that was foolish.
- [39:11]
Mike Ryan
Dry's hand 82.
- [39:12]
Amin Elhassan
Semantics with lives. I would never.
- [39:14]
Chris Cody
You are. You are playing with numbers there. You know, it's not fictitious to say that. After the government stripped down the faa, a couple of. A plane and a helicopter collided in the sky over Washington and there were a whole bunch of people dying. What are you doing?
- [39:30]
Amin Elhassan
A helicopter.
- [39:31]
Stugotz
Like a lobster and a helicopter.
- [39:33]
Mike Ryan
Do you imagine if that was, like, what would.
- [39:36]
Chris Cody
The claw. That would be a great thing to fight against. Godzilla or King Kong and these. Right. I wanted to.
- [39:45]
Mike Ryan
I want to minimize the tragedy. Tragedy, though.
- [39:48]
Chris Cody
No. Thank you, Billy. I do appreciate it. We've. I spit a word incorrectly and then all of a sudden the tragedy is minimized. That's something that happens around here.
- [39:55]
Amin Elhassan
Welcome to the show.
- [39:56]
Chris Cody
That's correct. I want to play some video here of Chris Eubank Jr. Smashing an egg off of Connor Ben. Because the fight press conference has gotten to a place, a place now where the fighters are bringing eggs out in their hands to promote a fight and then hitting the opponent in the face with an egg, which is a good. You can't let that happen. You can't.
- [40:17]
Stugotz
If you blink, you miss the egg.
- [40:18]
Chris Cody
You can't know that the egg is not there. And I mean, he is understandably angry. Look at that. He wants to fight those people. That's seven people holding him back because of the insult of. That guy just hit me in the face with an egg. Which is more insulting than anything else he could have hit me in the face with.
- [40:36]
Amin Elhassan
Now, I am a foolish, ignorant man. Why were there eggs?
- [40:40]
Mike Ryan
So that we would talk about the cl.
- [40:41]
Chris Cody
That's right. So that an egg would smash on somebody's face.
- [40:44]
Mike Ryan
Because if there was no egg, we wouldn't be talking about this fight whatsoever. The question is 100%.
- [40:48]
Stugotz
Did he have the egg in his little Jack jacket pocket or was it like just holding it maybe in his hands behind his back?
- [40:54]
Dan Le Batard
Like that egg cost like $2.
- [40:56]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, $2. Where? Show me.
- [40:59]
Mike Ryan
I don't like that the fight was called Fatal Fury because I feel like it's not going to deliver.
- [41:03]
Amin Elhassan
I mean, there's an egg, though.
- [41:05]
Mike Ryan
But I mean, I mean, two. Two men are entering. Two men are exiting. Probably not fatal. Fury.
- [41:11]
Chris Cody
Unlikely to be fatal. Is correct. Unlikely. But if a man were beaten to death, you would really regret that commentary.
- [41:17]
Mike Ryan
Oh, I mean, look, I hope it doesn't happen.
- [41:20]
Chris Cody
That's correct.
- [41:21]
Mike Ryan
And I know I'm saying that through a smile. I hope that neither one of them.
- [41:24]
Chris Cody
Perished, but you're predicting that this. You're saying this is false advertising. It can't. It's very unlikely statistically to be a fury that's faced.
- [41:33]
Mike Ryan
Probably unlikely. I will say, though, if it wasn't called Fatal Fury and there wasn't an egg, we definitely wouldn't be talking about it. But also, I probably will never think about this fight again.
- [41:41]
Stugotz
It won't be fatal, but it will be. Excellent.
- [41:44]
Amin Elhassan
What if it is fatal, but there's.
- [41:45]
Mike Ryan
No Fury egg, so get it, Dan.
- [41:48]
Chris Cody
There's already fury. I mean, he just got hit in the face with an egg.
- [41:51]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, but what if the fight happens and there's actually, no fury. But then someone dies.
- [41:55]
Chris Cody
Okay, well, that would be regrettable.
- [41:57]
Mike Ryan
Like a heart attack the day before or something. Yeah, that'd be terrible.
- [41:59]
Amin Elhassan
Fatal.
- [42:00]
Chris Cody
It would be pretty amazing, though, if your commentary on this would be. This can't be embarrassing to me. And we remember it forever because it was the day you said no one would die. And someone did.
- [42:14]
Unknown Speaker
Howdy, folks. It's Mike. And look, it's been an exhausting couple of weeks. Even on the show, there's all sorts of debate which sport takes it seriously enough. Where's the effort? Let me tell you something. As long as I'm sitting down on the couch and I have a beautiful white can of Miller Lite in my hand, I'm good. I make any sports time a Miller Time. And it's the perfect supplement because Miller Light makes all the moments better with great tasting light beer. For people like you and me who love beer, it's always the perfect time for friends, family, and a great tasting light beer tastes like Miller Time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than other light beers. The taste that you know you can depend on. No games, no gift gimmicks. Just great beer. For people who like beer, it has simple ingredients like malted barley for rich balanced toffee note flavors and the iconic golden color that we all know and love. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one Miller Lite great taste 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell. Beer tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.