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- [00:01]
Dan LeBatard
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- [01:01]
Stugatz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
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Chris Cody
Dominique Foxworth is going to be here in a second. I want to talk some football with him. But I want to ask the group here because Greenie is out and because I just saw on espn if any one of you walk into a meeting at ESPN and you got to do a show that day, and Damian Woody and Mike Tannenbaum are the guys who are going to be on your panel. What's the question? In July, you would put in front of them on a Wednesday before noon in order to get traction with your audience in, in July. Excuse me. So what, what would you choose, Tony? Because I'm going to give you the topic, and I don't think you can do better than the topic they chose.
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Dominique Foxworth
They're goaded when, when you step in to get up. They're doing stuff that's so high level. And first take. They're doing stuff that's so high level that sometimes it's the most obvious thing yet. The best thing.
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Jeremy
New high, Newest, highest paid guard.
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Chris Cody
No, they were.
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Stugatz
They did do that, though. They did.
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Chris Cody
They were not. Well, they were not doing that when I checked in. What they were doing is. Is DAK A top 10 quarterback?
- [02:06]
Dominique Foxworth
Oh, you got me locked in.
- [02:08]
Stugatz
I swear, I, I. You believe me or not believe me? I swear that's what I was going to say. All right.
- [02:12]
Jeremy
Greg into the mic.
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Stugatz
Whatever. Don't believe me. I don't care. I don't care.
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Dan LeBatard
You cover that on game night tonight or what?
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Chris Cody
It was so you could have said it. Why didn't you say it? What happened? You were laying out.
- [02:23]
Stugatz
Whatever, whatever. I don't care.
- [02:26]
Chris Cody
Dominique Foxworth, is he though with us now? What are we talking one it so is he dumb?
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Stugatz
I absolutely think he is. I mean, I. I get that you're kind of making fun of it, but you're also appreciating it but as someone who is inside the animal. It's an art form, man. And this is the months as Ray Lewis says and you point out often is like you. You pay me for everything through the week. I the Sundays are free. This is what the producers at get up are getting paid for right now. This is what Damen Woody is getting paid for right now. It's somehow manufacturing some interest when ain't nobod nothing and figuring out finding a list. Oh, Jeremy Fowler. Every time this year we. We did some of that on my show which like I heard you had Pablo on earlier and you make the argument that Pablo is trying to mix in the smart with the stupid. I don't think anything that I do on my show is stupid, but it's really smart and really fun and we play with the list and we got into roster construction. I think that this is the time of the year, at least for me on my show, that we explore the bigger picture ideas because we don't. We try to pretend like we're above lists but secretly me and Charlie still argue about them, but then we like dive into deeper topic. Expose or not Exposes explorations is what I was looking for on some of the things in sports that I think are very impactful but people don't know much about.
- [03:48]
Dominique Foxworth
Dominique, I want to give you a little breadcrumb for later on in the show and later on in the segment I want to do a list called Old faces, new places.
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Chris Cody
Oh, he's going to be too good at that game though.
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Dominique Foxworth
We're going to rest of us though.
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Chris Cody
We're going to be bad at it. He's going to be good at it. You're going to know where everybody is. You're going to know I'm going to.
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Stugatz
Be about as good at that game as Tony is at playing quarterback, I think so.
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Dominique Foxworth
Excellent. Okay. Awesome.
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Chris Cody
Are you ready?
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Stugatz
I I asked so and I know Dan, you like to have people come on and. And on buds on occasion. I rarely ombuds but I Think last week at some point. Oh, here we go. My. My buddy Andrew Hawkins. Oh, yeah. Get ready, Tony, because I'm coming right at you.
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Dominique Foxworth
I didn't do it.
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Stugatz
My buddy Andrew Hawkins gaslit Tony into saying that if he put his mind to it, he would have been a good college tight end. The disrespect, the absurdity of that, that Tony wasn't here talking about, oh, I just didn't apply myself. I was playing basketball. But if I would have tried, I could have been a college tight end.
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Dominique Foxworth
College. You say college. There's a lot of colleges. You know that, right? Not everybody went to Maryland. There's a lot of colleges.
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Stugatz
Okay, okay, okay. I apologize. I take it back. Thank you, baby.
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Dominique Foxworth
There's some bad colleges.
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Chris Cody
You weren't saying you were going to.
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Stugatz
Be in the college where you weren't.
- [05:06]
Chris Cody
Going to be a tight end at the university of Maine.
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Stugatz
Like you, of course. That's even too good.
- [05:10]
Dan LeBatard
He applied himself again.
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Dominique Foxworth
That's the application.
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Chris Cody
Dominique, I am willing to hire you immediately right now to regularly ombuds around here once a week to tell us all the ridiculous things we said over the course of a week that weren't called out enough on our show.
- [05:26]
Stugatz
I feel guilty being the ombudsman on Tony because I actually love Tony. Thank you. Because he says things like that, and I don't want to discourage him like, keep the confidence high. Tony, I absolutely. You will never discourage because I laugh.
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Chris Cody
Chris, do you want to ask. Dominique is a colleague of both Dan Graziano and. And Mike Greenberg and I guess Peter Schrager now, who's getting awfully comfortable in that chair, as we've noticed. Like, super comfortable. Just unreasonably comfortable. Do you want to file your complaint or your. Your observation with Dominique?
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Jeremy
I'm picturing greenie in Greece on being, like, just rooting for a sloppy show when Schrager's hosting and he's like, talking to the producers. He's like, you know, I thought Graziano killed it.
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Chris Cody
I don't think we need Trager.
- [06:12]
Stugatz
I think greedy is, as most people who are, like, incredibly successful like he is, is unreasonably competitive. However, I also know that greeny does not pay attention to the show when he's gone unless shraga has no idea was happening was happening on the show. Like, I wore a wig one day and impersonated greeny on the show. What was going on?
- [06:39]
Chris Cody
Such good criticism from zaslo. Why would you wear it? Why would you make a fool of yourself on national? Why wouldn't you respect yourself more than that?
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Stugatz
I don't know, man. I thought it was fun to make fun of him. I mean, but at least I have my own hair. That'd be nice.
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Chris Cody
I have thought of you recently here because I really don't know. And you could check out the Dominique Foxworth show where he will make the second apron entertaining and he will also break down union issues in a way that has more expertise than the average person. But I don't know how you have felt about recent developments where your friend Pablo Torre is reporting things that embarrass your friends and colleagues in a union that you have some great pride in, I would imagine, because you, you are a very strong member of that union. Just the things that have happened over the last, I'm going to say, 21 days with his reporting, have they been personally hurtful to you?
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Stugatz
Yeah, I mean, I did a couple segments that were not fun or all that insightful about what was going on there. And I think that it's not incredibly embarrassing to any friends or colleagues because the people who are being accused of things aren't friends or colleagues. I've always, since I left office as president, I've been reluctant to speak out on any issues because of course there are going to be things that happen that I agree with or disagree with. But I always try to remember that I was a leader in the union and it was really frustrating for people who had limited information to speak out and be critical. So I haven't really done that. I pointed out that the things, the conflicts of interest that Lloyd Howell is accused of are inexcusable and reprehensible. The one thing I did agree with and want to defend is that the players said that they are following the process. And that's like core. That is encouraging because that's core to what a union is. And oftentimes when I was at the union, people would get upset and wonder why you would accuse, why we would defend a player who was accused of some crime and it seemed clear that he had committed the crime. And the point was you have to protect those processes because if you for one special case decide to circumvent those processes, then there comes an opportunity where the case is no longer special and the process can be circumvented. So I say that to say that I respect the player leaders who are taking their time and waiting for the investigation and doing the things right. And even if I didn't, I would never criticize the player leaders of the union. That's just not.
- [09:13]
Chris Cody
But you're not an appropriate thing to do, but you're also not comfortable. I don't want to put you in a bad spot here, but just talking to me about sort of the emotion of reading that your union is compromised, right? Or at least appears compromised by something that would and should make Justin Herbert mad as a member of that union. And if I were Justin Herbert, I would be looking for legal action to get me some of my money back because my union didn't help me there the way that it's supposed to. Based on the information that's been reported so far.
- [09:46]
Stugatz
Based on information that's reported. It's infuriating, honestly, is because if you go back through the history of the union, there have been multiple tens and hundreds of players who have sacrificed in order to put the current players today in a position to have some of the success that they've had and reap some of the rewards that they are able to reap. And it's infuriating for someone who clearly doesn't seem to understand that or appreciate that to use this position as a position to better their own standing and make deals and compromises that undercut the players. I think the conflict of interest with Carlisle is particularly disappointing. Carlisle Group is trying to become an investor in NFL team and Lloyd Howe is an advisor to Carlisle. Like there are certain things that you just aren't allowed to do in certain roles. And I think that that's one that's pretty obvious. And the power and strength of the union is not something to me at least that should be held by one person at the top and certainly not used by that person to better themselves. The power and the strength of the union should come from the players. And I hate always, not always, but often when I hear players talk about the union, they say the union and they say they. They never really say. And that's not the players fault. I think it's a function of the union gradually separating the power from the players. And that's disappointing and infuriating.
- [11:19]
Chris Cody
Honestly, do I have it wrong when I dismiss the NFL Players union with some form of it's only so strong because those guys aren't actually united in being willing to miss the next paycheck.
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Stugatz
I'm not sure I completely understood. Like, I think that's not the NFL Players association alone. Like that's every unit. That is what union strength is. And I think the executive director of the union is important. But it doesn't matter. You could negotiate the best CBA in history. A child could negotiate the best CBA in history. If the players are tight and strong and willing to sacrifice, that's what it comes down to. That's why it's so upsetting when a guy who doesn't seem to understand that is not doing the things that I think need to be done.
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Chris Cody
And.
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Stugatz
It'S just sad, man. It's just sad.
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Chris Cody
But, Dominique, you say that's every union. It's not every union. Not every union is filled with millionaires. It's not every union.
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Stugatz
No, No. I don't think the makeup of the union matters. Union power comes from solidarity and unity, frankly, from the name and willingness to sacrifice. It doesn't matter how much money you make. It doesn't matter where you're from, where you. What country you're in or any of that stuff, what job you do, none of that matters. I think that there. Often times it's easy when you are trying to sell yourself, to talk about how, as a leader, how you can do this and do that and you have these ideas and strategies and you can make everything better because you have certain experiences and you've gone to fancy schools and you've been to other places, that shit don't matter. None of it matters. Like, what matters underneath it all is that the players take ownership of the union and the players believe in the union, and the players control the union. And the players are willing to sacrifice for the greater good. And they understand the history of the union. They understand that other people sacrificed in order to get them here and that it is their responsibility to sacrifice to continue to protect the gains that were made for them. And I think the NFLPA is often pointed to. But this is true of all the pro sports unions. And you could make the argument that is true of all American unions, that they are in retreat. And the most recent CBAs in all of the league, all of the leagues have taken a step back for a lot of the players. And in part, you could argue it's because of the money in the game. But I think understanding your core beliefs and what matters to you is what it comes down to. And those things can be changed, like that dynamic can be shifted. But it starts with the culture of the union and culture of any organization. And having this apparent separation of culture, it's not new. I can't blame Lloyd Howe for that. That's something that's probably been going on in the union for a long time. Gradually feeling less like it was the players union and more like the people in the office. A couple streets from where I am right now are Making the decisions for the players.
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Mike
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Dominique Foxworth
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- [15:37]
Andrew Hawkins
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- [16:44]
Jeremy
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Stugatz
Don LeBatard.
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Jeremy
For five minutes I was watching everyone just like, nope, not letting you in. Not letting you in. So when I got up there, I had to say something and I said it. Cheaters never prosper.
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Stugatz
Stugats.
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Jeremy
My buddy was saying, not today.
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Stugatz
Yeah, but you're not today.
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Chris Cody
Okay.
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Jeremy
I think that was what he was adding.
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Stugatz
Yeah. I'm telling you, the response I got.
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Jeremy
From this guy was what I said was amazing. Cheaters never prospered. This guy yelled as angry as he could.
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Stugatz
I ain't cheating. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats.
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Chris Cody
Put it on the poll, please. At Levitar show, could a child negotiate the best CBA as Dominique claims? Jeremy has top five list of top five places that Tony could have indeed made it as a tight end. Are you ready for that, Dominique?
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Stugatz
Yes, please.
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Mike
I've got three OLIs.
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Chris Cody
Oh, wow. So. Wow. So eight. We're alleging that there are eight places that Tony could make Dominique look dumb as the ombudsman. Because there are places that he could have been a tight end in college if he had just applied himself.
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Mike
In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Carnegie Mellon University.
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Stugatz
Good start.
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Chris Cody
They have a football team.
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Stugatz
Boy, do they.
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Mike
In Cleveland, Ohio, Case Western Reserve University.
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Stugatz
No, not Cleveland. Not. Not in the cradle of the. Of the sport. Like you can't play in Cleveland.
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Mike
In Claremont, California, Claremont Mud Scripps College. Number five In Storm Lake, Iowa, Buena Vista University. Don't know how that went.
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Dominique Foxworth
Hispanic flair there. That's where they got me.
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Mike
Storm Lake in Castleton, Vermont. Vermont State University, Castleton campus.
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Dominique Foxworth
That's a little subsection.
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Mike
We play football there.
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Chris Cody
I don't think these are teams.
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Mike
These are all scholarships. NCAA.com. the list of Division 3 football teams in the NCAA.
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Dominique Foxworth
Thank you, Jeremy.
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Mike
Number three in Northfield, Minnesota, St. Olaf University.
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Dominique Foxworth
What say you, Dominique? Lot of kawaii. Just nothing over there, huh? Ombudsman.
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Mike
Number two, Duluth, Minnesota, the College of St. Scholastica. And finally, number one in Tiffin, Ohio, Heidelberg University.
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Chris Cody
So you don't know anything fancy man.
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Stugatz
Nothing.
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Chris Cody
You think you know all about football and you think you know all the things you know nothing. You've been proven a fool in front of people.
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Stugatz
Yeah, I. I stay corrected. You're right. You. You could have.
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Dominique Foxworth
Thank you.
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Stugatz
Sorry.
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Dominique Foxworth
I appreciate that.
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Chris Cody
A wig.
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Stugatz
Have you ever blocked anybody before?
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Chris Cody
Of course.
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Dominique Foxworth
You think I played football?
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Stugatz
Yes.
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Dominique Foxworth
I've been hit.
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Stugatz
What kind of question is that? You played football? Yes. Where did you play football in.
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Dominique Foxworth
In high school?
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Stugatz
Oh, I thought that you never played football.
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Dominique Foxworth
No.
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Stugatz
You played quarterback? No. Of course.
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Dominique Foxworth
You're very.
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Chris Cody
You. Wait a minute. So you thought that he went out to an FIU football tryout, never throwing a ball? Imaginary football. You didn't throw in either?
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Dominique Foxworth
Well, throwing motion.
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Chris Cody
To be.
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Stugatz
I don't like how you're acting like I'm the crazy person. You know, Tony. Does that sound like something that Tony would do?
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Chris Cody
For the record, for those who do.
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Stugatz
Not, the man who said he could beat John Ameche in basketball. You're saying I'm the crazy one?
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Dominique Foxworth
Still crazy.
- [21:14]
Stugatz
Thinking that he might say that he could play football without having to fall.
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Mike
Under that stats tab video team.
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Chris Cody
It's not that part, Dominique, that I'm objecting to. I'm objecting to the idea that Tony would have such bad judgment in life in general that he would head out to an FIU practice, never having thrown a football before, and run through a series of drills where he's throwing an imaginary football in order to try out as a walk on to fiu. Yes. I don't believe his judgment would be that bad without throwing a football ever.
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Stugatz
This is the same person who I believe was scheduled to spar with an MMA fighter in Vegas. Like, this is. I. That's my. Let's just put it out there.
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Dan LeBatard
That fight, though, in fairness, I'm the.
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Stugatz
One that you're saying is unreasonable. I got a long list of Tony doing irrationally confident things, and I'm the one who believes who is standing there.
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Chris Cody
No, but what you have a long history of is not him. Doing irrationally confident things. It's him saying he's going to do them and then not actually doing them. Like, that's not. Yes.
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Dominique Foxworth
Is it my fault that the lenses got forgotten? Is it my fault that FIU said, no, we're not going to give you a football? Is that my fault?
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Stugatz
Or am I there standing in the.
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Dominique Foxworth
Breach waiting for something to happen and then it doesn't happen? Dan Lebatard, you tell me.
- [22:31]
Stugatz
All right. Oh, man.
- [22:33]
Chris Cody
I'm gonna.
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Stugatz
You're welcome, Tony.
- [22:34]
Chris Cody
People to look up both Tony's high school basketball and football career for us so that we can give Dominique whatever his credentials are there.
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Dominique Foxworth
Missed half my senior year, by the way, but.
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Stugatz
Oh, here we go.
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Dominique Foxworth
Tore my meniscus. No, I had. Had surgery.
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Stugatz
Wow.
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Chris Cody
Here we go. What do you mean? What are you accusing him of? Dominique?
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Dominique Foxworth
Accusing of having an injury that usually six months is the. Is the rehab time, and I did it in six weeks.
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Stugatz
Wow.
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Dominique Foxworth
So I got back quickly.
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Stugatz
Had. Yeah. No.
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Dominique Foxworth
Cover your face.
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Chris Cody
Faster healer than you, Dominique. He can out heal you. Do you want to have a heel off? Can you heal as well as heels?
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Dominique Foxworth
Is it a toughness question? Like, what do you want to do, Dominique?
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Dan LeBatard
To be clear, Dan, you believe that Tony is the very impressive specimen who's just lacked opportunity.
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Dominique Foxworth
I just need people to show up with the lenses. I need the footballs to be there when I go to try out.
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Stugatz
The best part is Tony doesn't know that you're making fun of him. He thinks you're hyping him up. He's like, oh, no.
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Chris Cody
I.
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Stugatz
No, no, no.
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Dominique Foxworth
Make no mistake about it. You think that I walk in here and I think people are hyping me up? You think that I don't know that? Come on.
- [23:43]
Dan LeBatard
Sponsored by the haters.
- [23:44]
Dominique Foxworth
Thank you. I'll send you a shirt.
- [23:46]
Stugatz
Tony. Tony. What made me laugh initially was you preemptively making excuses because you know what your stats were in high school. And you know what I don't have to do about my high school stats is tell you about the injuries I got. I just don't have to do it. It'll come up like it's not something to be concerned with.
- [24:05]
Chris Cody
Lebatardaf.com is where it is that you get the T shirts. If you want a shirt of Tony or Zaslow, I want you to look right now at your text. I have just sent you the photo for your approval. The newest in the zaslo collection of Lebatardaf.com merchandise. Congratulations. A T shirt with your face on it.
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Stugatz
I can't. I'm only listening.
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Chris Cody
You can. You can read and tell the people because I only sent it to you. You can tell them what that shirt looks like. It's a picture of Zazlow looking as he does right now.
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Stugatz
That's wonderful. That's a picture of me, all right. Looking very confident. And, you know, everybody knows I want opulence.
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Chris Cody
So it reads, I want opulence on the T shirt. Dominique, would you prefer to live in a manor or a mans. I don't know if you've been listening to the show. I wouldn't blame you if you weren't listening to the show. But if I say you can live in either a manor or a mansion, which do you choose?
- [24:59]
Stugatz
I mean, I feel like the difference, like, manor sounds like there's, like, more grass, right? Like a full manor and a mansion. I feel like a mansion could be in an area, like a neighborhood. I think I'd rather be in a neighborhood. Give me a mansion. I don't know. Manor sounds nice, but, like, every now and then, I want to run into some people. I can tell you the mansion living. It's good living.
- [25:21]
Jeremy
Dominique makes the rare that understood the difference and chose the smaller one.
- [25:25]
Chris Cody
That's unusual.
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Dan LeBatard
The man requires a lot of upkeep is really the issue.
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Stugatz
Who needs that? No, I mean, I think it also is just, like, to have a manor. You're gonna be like, 30 minutes. Like, I live in D.C. and I like being able to get to, like, practicality things. Yeah, yeah. Like, I know I. I. All that grass is cool, but I'd rather. If I can afford a mansion, I would then get, like, a farmhouse or a beach house to go to. But most of my life, I'd rather be in an urban environment. I don't want to be out in the country. Get out of here with that nonsense.
- [25:57]
Chris Cody
Okay, but you're putting it in the country, and I'm really with manor. I'm doing more castles now. I'm doing.
- [26:03]
Dan LeBatard
Those are always in the countryside when.
- [26:04]
Chris Cody
I think, yeah, so now you're talking. And castles, actually, if you look this up, somebody told me this the other day. I was stunned to hear it. Castles. Remarkably affordable. Remarkably affordable, given what you're getting.
- [26:18]
Jeremy
Was this, like, rich People magazine?
- [26:19]
Chris Cody
No, it was not Rich People magazine. It was, obviously, I have more money than you magazine.
- [26:25]
Stugatz
I mean, I think that, like, the magazine, the adage of, like, location, location, location is what is guiding my decision. Like, I. I don't want to live in a castle. I don't care how big it is, how nice it is, if I'm an hour away from anything. Cool, no, thanks. Like, I'd rather be close to things. If I had my choice, like, I would live in a penthouse in Manhattan. Like, that would be where I would live. It wasn't for the fact that my wife and her whole family lives in.
- [26:50]
Dan LeBatard
D.C. are you in the market for a castle? Like, you were talking to a castle realtor website here?
- [26:55]
Chris Cody
Guys, guys. No, no, no. I don't. I'm not talking about buying a castle. I know you like to mock me on these things, and I'm easy to mock on these things, but I am telling you that if you go with a group of people and you want a castle experience and it's 20 people paying for a castle that can take 100 people, you'll be surprised that you'll find it more affordable than your average Airbnb. You want to go get a penthouse. I. I'm just telling you, I've not done it, but I am told that it's. You'd be surprised that it's more affordable than you think it is to be able to get a castle. But Dominique is telling you, he. He wants neighbors. Dominique wants interaction.
- [27:32]
Stugatz
Yeah. Like, I don't. I mean, no, I don't necessarily want to be interacting with them all the time, but I want him around. Like, I. I'd rather be in an urban environment than a rural one. But I had this thought while you're looking up the castle things, I remembered from that segment with Tony, how you guys kind of made fun of Andrew Hawkins for saying, like, he was all hands and, like, his routes weren't that good. And you remember Andrew as a confident person, took it in stride and didn't get all defensive. Then I went and watched the video. He was killing it like that. That, to me, suggests someone who actually is a great athlete and probably could have played college basketball somewhere if he wanted to, or track or football and maybe two professional leagues.
- [28:16]
Dominique Foxworth
Yeah, maybe.
- [28:18]
Stugatz
There you go. You sound more confident now. There you go. We're learning how to sound confident, not insecure. I like it.
- [28:23]
Dominique Foxworth
Oh. Making a stretch that a professional athlete can probably be a good athlete somewhere else.
- [28:27]
Stugatz
Huge. Yeah, I'm. I'm saying. I'm saying that. That you can feel what real confidence sounds like. That's all I'm saying. And Andrew Hawkins had real confidence. I watched those videos he put up, and I was like, damn. He. He got a couple routes left in his body. I don't have no snaps left in me. But he got a couple routes left in there.
- [28:45]
Mike
Dan, you can buy the Parsons Castle on the water in Clifton, Texas for only $4.9 million.
- [28:52]
Stugatz
That's a good rate on that castle.
- [28:53]
Dan LeBatard
But you got Texas. Texas didn't have castle. That's a real castle.
- [28:56]
Stugatz
How far is Clifton from anything that I would actually want to do?
- [29:00]
Mike
It's a great question. But you can buy the extraordinary Bedford Castle in Wyoming for $14 million. But this castle, Dan, Holy cow. I mean, look at the Alps in the background.
- [29:12]
Dan LeBatard
Pretty remarkable.
- [29:12]
Stugatz
You would have to pay me $14 million to live in Wyoming. I'll go visit, but I'm not living in Wyoming. Stop it, guys. Who wants a castle in Wyoming?
- [29:22]
Dan LeBatard
There's no real castles in America, though. That's like made up castles.
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Stugatz
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- [30:30]
Stugatz
Don LeBatard. I took my son to the barbershop, get a haircut, and my man gave out some limp dap. Oh, no. Damn, damn, damn. Stugach. I disowned him. I threw him right under the bus. I was like, like, whose kid is that out here dishing out limp dap? This is the Don Levatar show with the Stugats.
- [30:56]
Chris Cody
I think that Jeremy's Judgment here has been terrible because he's not only not renting castles, he's buying them, but he's doing so in the United States, which is asinine. Like, that's not.
- [31:05]
Mike
That's what Chris told me to do. So I'll look at the other ones.
- [31:07]
Chris Cody
It's not like a castle in the United States is somewhere I expect to have dinner while people are jousting inside. Because it's a, you know, a Renaissance type feel.
- [31:16]
Dan LeBatard
Medieval times. Those are dope.
- [31:18]
Stugatz
Hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm disappointed in Jeremy because when I was last down there, Jeremy was one of the few people that I appreciated because he took responsibility, he was accountable. Even when things weren't his fault, Jeremy was like, that's on me. We were. One of my show adages is accountability plays. And when I was down there, we tried to instill that. That ethos into the culture of the Le Baton Show. And Jeremy was one of the first people to accept that. And then he just took Chris at thermodynamic.
- [31:50]
Mike
You're totally right, that one.
- [31:52]
Stugatz
I've been gone too long, man. You're right.
- [31:54]
Mike
Why would you take place on something.
- [31:55]
Stugatz
That'S not your fault? That's a sucker move.
- [31:57]
Mike
Now, that was. That's on me, right? I didn't have to follow the advice. I could have gone and looked for the castles in Northern Italy like I initially wanted to, and I didn't. I listened to faulty advice, and then when I did so, I was so close. I think it was going to be so sorry. I list to Chris's insightful advice, and I made a decision on my own. Let's follow that.
- [32:18]
Stugatz
Let me try to get. No, no, Jeremy, let's try it again. Fewer words. We got to work on this word economy. Fewer words. We don't need you to sneak in your backdoor explanation. You are doing the I'm sorry that you were hurt. You're not. Not actually given an actual apology.
- [32:35]
Jeremy
Try not to take a shot at me.
- [32:36]
Stugatz
Okay, Start over.
- [32:39]
Mike
First of all, Chris, I'm sorry for throwing you under the bus.
- [32:41]
Jeremy
Guys, not buying it.
- [32:42]
Mike
That one's on me. I made the wrong decision. I should have been looking at castles in Italy. My bad.
- [32:47]
Stugatz
Well done.
- [32:49]
Mike
I don't know what's happening.
- [32:50]
Stugatz
It's really hot.
- [32:51]
Dan LeBatard
It's so hot.
- [32:52]
Stugatz
Holy cow. Italy.
- [32:54]
Chris Cody
It's not working. Dominique, whatever it is you tried to instill on people here, they must have been allergic to. To accountability around here.
- [33:03]
Stugatz
Nah, man. I was just. I haven't been there in A long time. And then everybody just slips back into the nonsense sense. It's just. I don't know, maybe it's about a culture, about the leadership of the organization. I don't know.
- [33:15]
Dan LeBatard
What are the 20 people you're going to a castle with? Are we part of that?
- [33:19]
Chris Cody
It's not me that's going to the castle.
- [33:21]
Dan LeBatard
You said you were going with a group of 20 people.
- [33:23]
Chris Cody
I did not say that I was. You. I. I did not.
- [33:27]
Dan LeBatard
Castle friends. Dan's Court.
- [33:29]
Chris Cody
Anywhere with my castle friends.
- [33:31]
Mike
5 million euros in Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
- [33:34]
Chris Cody
You're looking up the wrong things. I'm not asking you for the prices of castles.
- [33:39]
Dan LeBatard
Your castle friends are not gonna rent a castle. Your castle friends want to own a castle.
- [33:44]
Chris Cody
My castle friends don't need anybody's help to buy castles.
- [33:49]
Stugatz
Oh, damn.
- [33:50]
Dan LeBatard
Okay, do your math friends use calculators or, like, the challenge of doing the numbers off the top of their head?
- [34:02]
Chris Cody
Are calculators still a thing? Like, can you buy. Can you buy a physical? Can you buy. No, can you. I know your phone has one.
- [34:08]
Dan LeBatard
That's your phone, but it's a calculator app on your phone. It's a calculator.
- [34:14]
Stugatz
You can still get calculators.
- [34:15]
Chris Cody
So the calculator business can't be doing well. The physical calculator business.
- [34:20]
Dan LeBatard
Every school requires you to buy them still and like a T. And when you start in high school, you need a TI83 Plus. It's like, by the time my kids get a TI83 Plus plus, it's going to cost what a car costs. And all they use it for is for their friend that has, like, the little cord and little cheat code that puts games on it. If we're going to be real, that's what TI83 pluses are for. So you can go on your calculator and play Pac Man.
- [34:42]
Chris Cody
That's not a calculator. That's a video game.
- [34:44]
Dan LeBatard
No, that's a calculator plus.
- [34:46]
Chris Cody
But physical calculators. I'm talking about the business of buying something that I'm going to say only calculate. That's out of business. Correct. Yeah. I cannot physically go get.
- [35:00]
Stugatz
I think, Dan, I think your problem is you're thinking about like. Like a simple calculator, not a scientific calculator. He's talking about the big ti's that you had to get all the buttons and graphing calculators. Yeah, right. Those calculators. Yeah, those calculators still exist. And the real simple calculator still exists also because kids need calculators for school. And they don't want them to have their phones in class. So there's still calculators. It's not a booming business. But who did? What did you use calculators for before you had phones? Like, unless you were accountant. How much calculating were you doing?
- [35:31]
Dan LeBatard
You put the thing in there and then you flip it upside down. It says boobs.
- [35:34]
Jeremy
It says you could say hell sometimes.
- [35:35]
Chris Cody
Yeah, that's a beeper.
- [35:37]
Stugatz
No, no.
- [35:39]
Dan LeBatard
You don't understand school supplies. Like, there's things that are just never gonna go out of business. Like, what do you need a compass for? Not like the compass that tells you, like, north, south, the one that draws a circle. You don't need that for anything. But that's always going to be like, on a third grade school supply list.
- [35:54]
Stugatz
Did you stab yourself with that thing? Like, that thing stabbed me more than I actually made circles with it. Like, it was so dangerous.
- [36:02]
Chris Cody
I'm actually curious, Dominique, now that you have children of this age, do you. Are you smart enough to teach 6th grade math the way they're now teaching 6th grade math compared to how it is that they taught it when you were in sixth grade?
- [36:16]
Jeremy
Green says booby.
- [36:17]
Stugatz
Hell no. Hell no. The move that I do is if they ask me for help. So, like, my oldest daughter is headed into ninth grade. She stopped asking me for help a while ago when she did used to ask me for help, and now I got a 9 year old and a 12 year old boy. The move is, I can't help you right now, but you get a peek at it and then you go to this thing called YouTube and you look it all up and you teach yourself it. Then you come back and you work through it with them. But absolutely not. I can't do sixth grade math. I posted a problem a long time ago from my daughter when she was in sixth grade where they would give them these, like, stretch problems. I posted it online and no one could get it. It's just this.
- [36:59]
Chris Cody
How low do I have to go there before you feel like a real idiot? Like, second grade, third grade. Like, where is it that you were unable to teach something that you thought should have been simple to teach, but you're like, oh, my God, parenting has sort of left me mathematically behind. This doesn't happen to my math friends, by the way. They prepare for it.
- [37:14]
Stugatz
So sixth grade, I think when my oldest daughter got to sixth grade, I had to start going somewhere else to teach it to me before I could help her. And then like seventh and eighth grade, I stand no Chance like I would have to like spend a whole day relearning some of these things. Like no, it's not. And she's like kind of smart and like advanced math and stuff. And this stuff is really impossible. I'll send you a problem, Dan. Maybe on tomorrow's show I'll find one of her reach problems from last year and send them to you and see if you guys can.
- [37:46]
Chris Cody
I don't know if I could actually do it, but I sure as hell can't teach someone. Like I'm saying that my modes of doing math, even addition, that I'd have trouble teaching that to someone because they're teaching it differently now. Like and it's totally different. Like where I don't even recognize what they're talking about.
- [38:05]
Stugatz
Teaching it different. I mean addition then like no, they're not teaching addition any differently. I don't think. Like my kids don't need help on addition. It just.
- [38:14]
Chris Cody
Okay, one step. Okay, one step beyond addition.
- [38:17]
Dan LeBatard
Sounds like you could use a calculator, Dan.
- [38:19]
Stugatz
The multiplication division. No teaching it the same way. Maybe my kids are going to retro schools, but those things are still the same. Division is different times table division.
- [38:30]
Jeremy
I was watching my daughter do a division problem and it's just like I didn't used to do it that way.
- [38:34]
Mike
Long division.
- [38:34]
Stugatz
So at least the. The school that my kids go to, they teach them a bunch of different strategies and you can choose the strategy that you like best for the problem that you're doing. But all my classic old school division strategies still exist. They're still teaching them. You may not use them all the time, but they still exist.
- [38:50]
Dan LeBatard
Big year for division.
- [38:53]
Mike
Borthwick Castle in Scotland. Dan sleeps 28 guests in 13 rooms. It's just €10,000 per night. That includes breakfast. Although dinner will be quoted separately. And just off the top of my head, if you split that price amongst your 28 guests. 357 Euros or so.
- [39:14]
Jeremy
You did that on a calculator, not in your head.
- [39:16]
Dan LeBatard
Eight extra members of Dan's court for that one.
- [39:19]
Stugatz
Can I take a quick detour over to like a topic that we discussed on my show? Dan, I assume that you, like most sports fans, believe that the way to win a Super bowl is through the rookie quarterback contract. And we kind of dissected it yesterday and realized that no like since the. It was 15 years ago when Sam Bradford signed signed the last pre rookie wage scale deal and he got more guaranteed money than Peyton Manning who had four MVPs and had the most guaranteed money and Sam Bradford got that before he came into the league. Then Cam Newton came in after, got a lot less and probably deserved that contract, honestly. But I think because of like Russell Wilson and Colin Kaepernick and Joe Flacco, we believe that that was the strategy. But if you like look at the numbers, it kind of you. It puts you in a position that maybe you are stuck to a quarterback who's good but not great and you would have to require quite a bit of luck to pull off like a Super Bowl. And multiple like Eli Manning is like more about luck than it is about skill. So I think a lot of us are following this misunderstood notion that the rookie quarterback is like the shortcut to winning the championship. When and now you know what it is? It's the same thing. It's always been, have a great quarterback, you got a great quarterback, you're going.
- [40:44]
Chris Cody
To win Super Bowls, you don't mind paying for him. But I guess that's just because we've got such an obsession with like GMing and architecture stuff that people love to be able to say, well, that's a place that you can actually get value. If you get value there, you'll have more money to spend elsewhere.
- [41:02]
Stugatz
Not enough time to get into all of this. But that's also a misunderstanding. Is like you're the. The impacts on the salary cap from paying your quarterback if he's great is de minimis because you can often restructure the contract and keep pushing the cap, hit until later and later and build a team that success like you notice all the best teams have really good quarterbacks who cost a lot of money. Like that's just like a misnomer that people use in order to suppress the salaries of some of the best players in sports.
- [41:29]
Chris Cody
The Dominique Foxworth Show. You can find all manner of insight there, except he doesn't want to live in a manner. Good seeing you, sir. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate, appreciate it.
- [41:39]
Stugatz
Bye. I miss you guys. Thanks, Dominique.
- [41:42]
Mike
Thanks, Dominique.
- [41:42]
Jeremy
Juju will be here in a minute.
- [41:44]
Stugatz
Tell. Tell Tony I'm sorry.
- [41:46]
Jeremy
I'm here by a minute.
- [41:47]
Dominique Foxworth
You can tell me.
- [41:48]
Jeremy
There he is.
- [41:49]
Stugatz
I mean, I'm not actually.
- [41:50]
Dominique Foxworth
I'm not actually accepting your apology either. It's on site.
- [41:54]
Stugatz
What? Whoa.
- [41:56]
Chris Cody
On site.
- [41:57]
Stugatz
On site. I said it. I meant it. I said it.
- [42:01]
Dominique Foxworth
I meant it. I said it, I meant.
- [42:03]
Chris Cody
All of that is on air. All of that is on air. We all heard it.
- [42:07]
Stugatz
The audience heard it.
- [42:09]
Dan LeBatard
He said what he said stupid thing to say.
- [42:11]
Stugatz
Too old to fight. Wow. Too old to fight. All right, guys. Wow. He's scared. Subjuju.
- [42:15]
Jeremy
Sounds like Dominique would take a knee if that was a fight.
- [42:19]
Stugatz
If it was a baseball fight. What?
- [42:22]
Jeremy
Yesterday we talked about taking a knee.
- [42:23]
Stugatz
To avoid a fight that wasn't here.