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This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
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Oh, look at who's here. Everyone gets very excited when Mina Kimes is here. And to honor Mina Kimes making an appearance, we got breaking news.
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Dano. Hot off the press, Dylan Gabriel in the concussion protocol, Shadour Sanders to make.
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His first start this Sunday.
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Okay.
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We will start then in the obvious place of showing Mina, that beauty pageant contestant from Chile, doing death metal during the talent portion of the beauty pageant.
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That's crazy.
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If you're just listening, it's a beautiful woman doing death metal during the talent portion of a beauty pageant. Mina, your thoughts?
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Uncannily close to my Cookie Monster impression or my Elmo impression. Both of them, right? If I remember correct. I don't know if it started as Cookie Monster or I pretended to be Elmo and was interpreted as Yoda, but the net result was a lot like that. I think we can all agree.
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All right, do me the favor, Chris, of finding me some generic death metal sound that we can have Mina do her either her monster or That'll be easy to find. Yeah. Generic death metal sound, just, you know, come on, you can find it. I know you can. Let's. Let's talk not about Shador Sanders, but the thing I did want to talk about because I really feel, Mina, like we're super ignorant about the concussion stuff, everybody. The idea that C.J. stroud on Tuesday, that they could say, yep, third week he's out, he's not. Like, the stuff happening in his head must be pretty bad.
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I just want to say you might be the only person in sports media who's going in the concussion direction. Off of the shirt, I know you're not talking about Shador, who's starting because of the concussion, but I don't think a single person has expressed any concern for the health of Dylan Gabriel in all of this. There is zero Dylan Gabriel or concussion discourse. But, yeah, actually answer your question. The CJ Stroud stuff is scary. Whenever you see multiple weeks, you know, that means that tests are not being passed. Concerns are had by both, either the team or the player, which I suspect might be both in this case. And that is really scary. I think about some players, for example, Jaquan Brisker in Chicago who just missed tons of games, and you start hearing that week after week, and he's not back after the customary week away, and you do start to get concerned.
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The coverage of Shador Sanders bothers me like the disproportionate.
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Which part. I think it's so normal and not at all insane.
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Yeah. Just that we're talking against all odds about a 5th round pick who can't play, and we're talking about him only because he's famous.
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Yeah. I think what I would object to. I'm not saying you're saying this, but I think, like, the idea that this is new because. Right. We all remember Tebowmania. Every now and then, there comes a player along who not only invites an undue level of scrutiny and interest, but also, I think a lot of takes from people who don't even, like, who aren't immersed in the sport. A lot of the, you know, reaction was last week. You know, okay, let's make excuses. Well, he didn't even get reps with the first team. And I know Cam Newton gave a take about this, but for the most part, it was people who don't really seem to cover football that much, saying it was outrageous, even though it's pretty much the norm. Or honestly, people being overly hard on him. Like, it was predictable. As I'll get out that a fifth round pick in that offense which sucks. That offensive line which is terrible would look awful. I do think he has a real opportunity this weekend because in addition to getting the much discussed reps, the Raiders defense, we saw what Dallas did to them. I think he's going to have an easier, he could have an easier go of it and you know, a real opportunity to show that he belongs in this league.
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How do people, Mina, how do people with a straight face say that Kevin Stefanski doesn't want Shooter Sanders to succeed? I didn't make any sense.
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I think there's a lot of just reaching for. Here's what I'll say though. I would be surprised if Kevin Stefanski wanted them to draft Shador. But also what you're saying is insane is like why would he self sabotage, right? He doesn't want to look bad. I mean there's a chance Kevin Stefanski isn't the coach of the Browns next year the two time, you know, coach of the year and there's no reason it's insane to think that he would willingly want the offense to his offense to look. He's not play calling Tommy Reese's but it doesn't make sense. It's absolutely batshit.
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Mina Mina. That Denver Broncos Kansas City Chiefs game is going to be hugely consequential for who's going to be super bowl champion. The fact that Kansas City lost that game, it kind of cements that they're going to have to do this thing on the road if they get an opportunity to do it at all. Specific to KC what do you think their postseason chances are now?
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Pretty low, man. I mean maybe they squeak in. I have to look at everybody's schedule but even if they do squeak in, I'm going to be it's going to be hard to pick them against a lot of the better competitors in afc. Even a team like the Bills that's flawed, that really can't defend the run is actually a bad matchup for Kansas City because Kansas City can't run the ball and you saw that right when they played. And, and I think that's the thing when I look at this Chiefs team everyone points to like oh they had the luck in the one score games last year and now the luck is gone. And that's 100% true and something we remember, we will not remember but when another team does it this year you're looking at one score records people should remember it. But the thing I think striking that strikes me when I watch them is it's just a very Fundamentally flawed team. They can't run the football, they struggle against man coverage, and they can't rush the pass here. And those are pretty important things when it comes to winning playoff games.
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Mina was Dan's take right, that their offense is kind of constipated.
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Yeah. Constipated is such a great word to describe it because if you can, like, you know, just play tight man coverage and, you know, the. The Broncos can do that, or even you're not too afraid of getting beat over the top. And Mahomes missed a couple balls in that game. Everything does feel really tight. Everything does feel like you're just playing for third down. I don't know why I did a constipated voice there. You're playing for third down and just trying to squeeze out. Oh, God. Actually, I don't know.
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You're right. You're right.
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Good for you.
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You're cooking, you're pushing, and you're just keep doing this. Yes, you need. It's a perfect vision their offense needs. Is it Imodium or is that the opposite?
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Metamucil.
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Yeah. I don't know.
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I hate how quickly I answered that.
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Yeah. Isn't their EPA good, though? Like, aren't. Don't they have. Isn't it like the.
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You.
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No.
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Look at you. Just. Just so proud of my large adult son. Dad using EPA on his show. Yeah. I mean, this is the thing, too. Like, until a couple weeks ago, the offense was like, when Rashid Rice came back, it was like, oh, we are fricking back. I felt that way watching them, but I think you're just seeing the flaws. And a lot of it comes down from the inability to run the ball because there's a lot of defenses around the NFL that can't stop the run and. Or are begging you to run. And if you're a team that just consistently cannot do it, that has now been the least explosive rushing game in the entire NFL for multiple years in a row, and for some reason decided not to draft a running back in a. Not alter things. Yeah, you're going to run into teams that are just like, cool. We will choke you out through the air. And if you can't run the ball, so be it.
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Chris, go ahead and give me some public domain death metal music. And let's see what Cookie Monster, Elmo, what Mina decides to do with the public domain death metal music. Num, num, num, num.
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Cookies. Where the cookies? I'm the Cookie Monster. Me one cookie. Who doesn't like that.
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Yeah. No, I'm I'm a big fan of everything that's happening there. So I thought, I thought the most impressive thing.
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Come on, this is the chorus.
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I thought the most impressive thing that I saw in football this weekend is Seattle kicking for the game with that kind of turnover disparity. I looked through some of the stats and can't believe that. It's like the Paint Manning MVP offense of the Broncos. It's the greatest show on turf. And it's the Seattle Seahawks when it comes to having over 100 point differential but being negative on turnover margin. That is an exceptional football team. That team will win the super bowl if it can fit figure out how not to turn over the ball in the playoffs.
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I think I saw that the defense. That was the most statistically impressive performance by defense against Matthew Stafford ever in his career. I mean, and Matthew Stafford has been playing unbelievable this year, right? So I, I thought it was one of the more impressive regular season performances by defense that I can remember. They are incredibly well coached, they're talented at all three levels. The pass rush is unbelievable. And yeah, for them to get that close, it is. I think it's going to raise a lot of interesting discussions about what you said, which is how do you keep Sam Darnold from doing what he did in that game in the same thing he did against the Rams? And I think for Seattle's purposes, it's not just like Sam Darnold doesn't have the clutch gene. Sam Darnold is a choker on the playoff. You know, the big stage. It's Sam Darnold struggles against specific types of interior pressures when he has to sort out the rush. That is how I felt watching him in that last year. That's how I felt watching him this game. I thought the Rams did a fantastic job of drawing out the exact types of pressures that give Darnold trouble. So for Seattle now, it's like you got two months to fix that. Not two months, right? It's November, Cheesley's. You got to a month and a half to fix that. You got to figure out a way to run the ball too against defenses that go light like L. A. But you get. And the other thing with Arnold, because the defense is so good, bro, just take a sack like he was trying to make plays happen on all of those that just weren't there. But you got the frickin rebirth of the Legion of Boom on your side. Just take the sack. Live to play another day because they're going to hold them to very few points.
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I read some stats earlier this week that he's 21 and 4. Darnold is against people who aren't Chris Shula, but against Chris Shula, the defensive coordinator for the Rams. He 0 and three 12 sacks, five interceptions. So is it interior pressure? Is it that the Rams are good at interior pressure or which is it more of interior pressure of the Rams or Chris Shula?
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Yeah, I think it's, it's the pressure designs by Chris Shula because on three of the four interceptions, it wasn't just defensive tackles winning straight up. He was like showing all out blitzes. Guys were dropping. So Sam was like, oh, what's going on? What's going on? Who's actually. And then you would have edges in many cases looping around the inside. So it was like Darnold holding on the football. It'll take because he was confused. And then here comes Byron Young barreling through the A gap or Puna Ford in one case. So like I think just going back and rewatching them, Dan, like all the similarities in the pressure designs, Shula very smartly leaned on that. But also the players are very good folks.
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Don LeBatard, did you get lost on the way to Home Depot today? Dan, like what? What's going on with the platform?
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Get his ass.
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Mina.
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Stugats.
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But do you look like you're about.
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To ask me to like, check the oil on my car or like come over and like, look around and point things in my house that need to be fixed?
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This is the Levitar show with the Stugats.
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Mina, what do you make of Mike McDaniel becoming just the second coach this century to go for fourth and goal with under two minutes left in a tie game.
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I think it's the kind of thing you do when you're in like full effort mode, right? Like, Mike McDaniel is like having a senior spring, as we used to call it in high school, where it's just like, I'm out of here. Maybe I'm out of here. Anyways, whatever. Like, he did a bit after you guys saw that, right? He went into the press conference, did like a full blown Lebitard style bit. Nobody cared because they won and it was forgotten. I think if they had lost, there would have been a lot of calls to fire him this week.
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Mina. Thank goodness for the Bucks that Baker won all those coin flip games at the beginning of the season because they had a slew of injuries and then really tough opponents. But if you look at Baker's performances over the Last month. Even though you can contextualize them, he hasn't been that good. What's going wrong for Tampa and can they right the ship?
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Oh, my throat is really feeling that Cookie Monster metal impressions, by the way.
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I just realized you went and got it, though. You really.
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Don't tempt me to do it again.
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You want to give all your analysis in death metal voice, you're going to kill my.
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I got to do my.
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That was your takeaway from what you said. Please don't do that. Don't worry about that, Mina.
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I got to do my show. By the way, the Mina Kybie show featuring Lenny. We preview all the games for two hours later today. I can't. I can't kill my voice like that. Okay, So I think a lot of the stuff's catching up in terms of, like, not having his dudes out there. Right. Wow, it almost went full gronk there.
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It's Eggbag.
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Boo has been awesome, but he cannot just be the entire focal point of your passing attack. And then the Bucs run game has taken a step back to. Although they were very good against Buffalo, which is not hard, but, you know, they haven't had Buck Irving. I do think getting guys back in the offensive line, the right tackle will help them. And. And the other thing is, like, they just played really good teams, Mike. Like, looking back on their schedule going into the season, I don't think it looked nearly as hard as it. When you realize, oh, my goodness, the Bucks have had a gauntlet to face and. But fortunately, they're in the NFC south, and so things are still very winnable.
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Emeeka Ekbegbu. So good. Emika Egbegboo.
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Do you think that they're gonna pull, like, one of these 49er tricks where they get all their guys back at the right time and they find their groove and all this is just. They're hurt and they're playing the cream of the crop.
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Is that a fort. Is that a 49er trick? Because I don't feel like they ever get their guys back at the right time.
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Well, they just end up getting reheart.
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Well, a big issue with them. I think they're still good. I think the defense is really good, too. I think Josh Allen just kind of went nuclear. But the issue for me, and this is an issue like, I just don't know who the Panthers are. I am supposed to at this point in the season have a firm grasp on how I feel about teams, and I can tell you who's good and who's bad and where the I you could not pay me to bet on the Carolina Panthers. Like if you gave me $100 instead bet on a Panthers game, I would just give it back to you and say keep your money. Because I truly that team more than any other team in the NFL, I have no freaking clue. Week to week. Although I did see they were undefeated in games where they've won the coin flip and I think they've lost every game where they've lost the coin flip. So that to me is as good a piece of analysis as the Carolina Panthers is going to get.
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That stinks as analysis and they stink as a football team.
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I like it. I like it too.
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I saw that and I was like, ooh, dam Carolina Panther analysis this season has been on the money.
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They stink.
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Their season is over. Even though they're firmly entrenched in the.
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Mix, they don't stink. Okay. Their defense has improved a lot this year from last year.
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Bryce Young threw for 448 yards and there were two career ending injuries he had in that game. He went to the sideline. I'm like his season and his career.
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Are over and he's not the guy that's out for the year in that game. Crazy.
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There was a point where the line I think was Kaden Ellis just like suplexed him and I thought there's no way he looks so small. And he just got folded up and then he went boing bounced right up.
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And so Penix suffers another knee injury. Really sad when you consider what he's gone through in college. You're a big time Washington Husky supporter, you love Michael Penix. But this kind of feels like it may really be a wrap for him. That was a book on him when he entered the draft that his knees couldn't take the league.
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Yeah, I think it's, I hope I'm not wrong, but I believe it's the other knee. But yeah, still the same injury. Concerns persist. The other thing I will say is Michael Penix had been really inconsistent this year even before the injury. Right. Like there were games like the Bills game at night where you're watching, you're thinking, yes, the Falcons have their guy, that he's got a cannon. Drake London is unbelievable. And then there are games where he just couldn't hit broadside of the bar. And quite frankly. So even before the injury you're already, I would have been unsure about where to proceed. If you're an Atlanta Falcons fan and now you go into next year, you don't have your first round pick, you gave it to the Rams, which is ridiculous. Kirk Cousins is probably going to be gone and you got a question mark at quarterback. And probably they're going to wipe the slate clean too, with the staff. So it's a pretty brutal situation all around. I think they'll probably give Pennix another shot, but they'll probably have to bring in competition.
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Mina, at this point, what constitutes a successful season for the Bears?
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I would say just. My view is just being a playoff team is enough. I imagine Bears have higher aspirations than that. They would say they want to win a playoff game. Let me rephra being a playoff team and then getting there and not pooping your pants. So, like, I would like to see them get in the playoffs, which seems very doable at this point, and then just look like they belong. They don't have to win, I think. And I, again, I don't think Bears fans would agree with that. Oh, I still.
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I think it's already. I think it's already a success because they know they have the best quarterback they've ever had as a franchise and a good coach.
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And I mean, the run game has been wildly fixed. I just think they don't have enough of a pass rush. There's issues with run defense, so, you know, it's. But. But yeah, I agree about that with the quarterback and the coach seem to be sort of coming together too, as the season goes along. So you feel good about where things are going.
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You mentioned the pooping of the pants. I will show you a Packers defensive lineman peeing on the sidelines here.
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Exactly what I wanted to see.
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Obviously peeing on the sidelines here. Job by the coaches there. Clearly looking away, making him feel very safe.
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Excellent work, Bryan Cranston.
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There is a lot of looking away there that could be either Bryan Cranston or Aaron Paul. It looks like both of them. I don't have any commentary here, do you?
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Are you watching Pluribus? Sorry. Bryan Pranston just got me thinking about that. Cause of Breaking Bad. Dan, I feel like this is extremely your shit.
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Yeah, I love it. I'm two episodes in and. Yeah, and I love all the Breaking Bad Easter eggs in it. Like, just all the little nuances of Vince Gilliam. Where'd you go? Did you want to say Pluribus? Why are you breathing so hard? Did you want to talk Pluribus with Nina?
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Yeah. Are you into Pluribus, too?
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I'm into it. I'm into. I'm into how the protagonist is an absolute miserable asshole.
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I know. I Love it. I love it. It like. And it's like, okay. So like, my interpretation of it just briefly is like, this is like a real allegory for grief, right? Like how when you're grieving, nobody understands you, everybody wants to help and you just want them to just shut the F up and go away. If you're a certain kind of person, which this person is. But it's like turned up to. It's like, okay, what if we took that and then turned into like a hilarious X Files episode meets break with a woman who is like the most miserable version of that? And how far can you as a viewer, your sympathies for her go? I just love how he's like pushing on our sensibilities and like how whether or not we will stick with this woman because she is really hard to watch. I love it.
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Mina. The incredible thing is at first I was like, yes, this person is grieving. Of course it's hard to come to grips with it. And then we got the little flashback in the other episode, like, oh no, this is just who you are.
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And that to some degree. Yeah.
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I mean, to a lot of degree. Look, the bed's made of ice. We get it. It was a nice hotel. Oh, but they're also, the way they're selling it is the most miserable person on the earth tries to save the world from happiness.
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Haven't you ever. You know, I think it's about grief, but it could be about anything where you mentally are going through something, whether it's grief or depression or a personal issue, and you just feel like all of your friends are annoying the hell out of you trying to help. Or everyone in your life just completely does not understand what you're going through and their efforts to cater to you are actually working against. It's more and more annoying as it goes on. Isn't that a universal feeling that we can all relate to?
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I would imagine so. I would also imagine that some of the things I've been thinking about this lately with David Sampson. When you're grieving like that your world has been turned upside down, you kind of get mad at the world cuz everyone else is still living their life and yours, you're lonely with the idea of like, how can anyone else not be in pain when I'm suffering like this?
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And it feels like they all have this like weird hive mind in some ways. Like, how are you got? You guys are just like, oh, cool. You're all just like marching along and excited about, you know, pumpkin spice lattes coming out. And you're just like, how are you living your life like that? I don't know. I think it's spectacular. By the way, at my other podcast, Viewer Discretion, we're gonna talk about it next week. So if you. If you're watching that show and you're into that, go check it out.
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How about the Chair Company? Are you watching that?
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Yeah, of course. I wanna know what it's like to watch that show. If you've not watched I Think youk Should Leave, which is his other show on Netflix that my friend Zach Kanan created. Oh, he's also involved in this. But, like, that show is so much pretext for this show. I know. And it. I feel like I just can't imagine, like, a standard HBO viewer. I know, I know. But I just can't imagine, like, being a normal HBO Sunday night viewer and being like, oh, I'll check this out. And not being familiar with Tim Robinson's, by the way, I posited a theory, and I think there's some substance to it, that Tim Robinson is loosely basing his character in the Chair Company on Jim Harbaugh, who was on Detroiters. So they know each other.
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Let's talk this one out.
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Why?
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Okay, so literally on Sunday night, I was watching, they did a side interview with Jim Harbaugh. Like, they. Like a halftime interview. I think this was a few Sundays ago. And everything about it, his mannerisms, his, like, weird focus on, like, random shit, his ability to, like, he couldn't shake his obsession with whatever he was talking about. It was so similar to the main character in the Chair Company that I. When I went. Then we watched the Chair Company later, I was like, I feel like I'm watching the extension of the halftime interview, and Jim Harbaugh's just, like, going down a rabbit hole. And, you know, that family has had to deal with Jim Harbaugh, you know, doing his proverbial Jeep Tours company or something, whatever. Like, you know, he's going down some weird roads that we don't know about.
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Chris.
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Which would have been better in terms of hitting her with. Look at me. Would it have been this one? Look at me, Louise. Would it have been this one?
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Look at me, Louise. I actually had someone. I'm gonna do it again. I actually had someone run the theory by Tim Robinson, who was on a hitter again.
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Play this out.
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Play this out. Play this out.
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Yeah, that's the name drop. I think the name drop is better than this. Look at me, Lucy.
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Look at me.
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No, I like, like the. Yeah, I Like the name drop sound.
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Look at me. Go ahead, Amin. You've been interrupted 16 times. Look at me, Louie is reserved for when you are acting in a way that's like, look at me, I'm holier than thou. Our papacy excluded, of course. Name drop is when you do what Mina just did, where it's like, yeah, I had a someone run it by old Tim. That's someone.
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Nobody wants to know what he said in response to the theory.
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Did he respond?
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Yes, he responded. You know what? He did respond. And because of how you guys have acted, I'm not gonna tell you what he said.
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Wow. Wow.
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In that case, sing again.
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Wow.
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Can't do it. Can't do it. Don't make me sing. Don't make me Sir.
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A
Don Lebatard Football, football, football.
D
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stuff.
A
You wanted to ask her something, Zaz, before we got carried away with hijinks.
F
Thank you, my son. Mina. Were you shocked at the end of the last episode of Chair Company?
C
We haven't watched the last episode yet.
A
The second to last one. There's not. The last one is not as shocking as the one before.
C
Spoiler alert. Okay, so it's a perfect example as of like how? No, because I've watched I think you should leave. And I'm familiar with the oeuvre, but I was like, like watching that and thinking if you were not. If you have not watched this man's work, you must be like, just befuddled by what you're seeing on your television. Okay.
F
That's actually how. That's actually how I'm experiencing now, Mina. Because I started watching the Chair Company and now I've been watching. I think you should leave.
A
He started with friendship.
F
Yeah.
A
He started Tim Robinson with friendship and said he got second hand. Awkward, embarrassment.
F
I didn't know if I was going to be able to finish the movie.
B
Movie.
C
I have a little Tim Robinson zipline guy behind me, by the way. That's not a. That's not a name drop. That's a. It's literally just a prop that's relevant to the discussion. Yeah, you should watch. I think you should leave. Watch the first season.
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I am.
C
Oh, you okay? Sorry. Yeah, I feel like if. Yeah, I mean, it. How do I explain? It is just like an embrace of, like, randomness that doesn't. Doesn't really exist in comedy. Right. Like, we're just like. No one can predict anything that anyone's about to say. Say. It's like. It's a. In a world where, like, increasingly every content is just AI spitting out like, hey, what's the next sentence going to be? AI could never write a single line of dialogue or scene in a show like this because it only comes from the most demented brains on earth.
F
I made my older son sit down and watch. I think you should leave with me. He got mad at me.
A
Yeah.
C
That's a common experience of people watching.
A
I think that's something I've told you guys. The story that I was with my brother's fiance at a loud place and I was recommending the show to her and she thought I was being mean cause she couldn't hear me. And I just kept saying, I think you should leave.
E
That's actually a great sketch for that show.
A
Who do you imagine is going to win? Colts off a buy versus Kansas City. And I will say, if you have not listened to the Lenny show featuring Mina Kimes, it has a lot of information in it. It is a data dump unlike anything I have heard in analysis. The way she geeks out on the specifics of where the advantages are. So when you see that game, you introduced me to the idea that the Bills you want to. You weren't brave enough to pick the Bills against the Chiefs, but you said that game would go the way it would because you're like the Chiefs cannot stop the run up the middle and the Bills are great at running up the middle and you didn't trust the Bills enough. When you look at this particular game, it would seem to me that Jonathan Taylor is better on the outside than he is up the middle. But you see what happening there.
C
Yeah, I'm going to pick the Colts in this and we're going to break it down in more detail. But. But I think with the Chiefs, to me it's a lot of things with the defense, I don't think they can get the kind of pass rush that it's going to disrupt Daniel Jones. And I think also with the Colts offense, so much of what they do is RPOS play action. Teams trying to stop the run, those are things that the Chiefs are bad at as well. Stopping play action is the thing that comes to mind too. You saw the Chargers and what they did to them in week one and that's been an issue all year long. Just going after those linebackers. So I just think the way this Colts built offense is built, they can attack Kansas City and then on the other side of the ball, you know the addition of Sas Gardiner is big because I think you to play the Chiefs if you can play man coverage consistently, they just can't win, man. Like those receivers are not winning. And Travis Kelce does his best work against zone. So I think that is going to help them a great deal in that matchup.
F
How funny is the very fair sentence from Mina? I don't think the Chiefs are going to be able to disrupt Daniel Jones.
C
Wild, right? What a time.
E
Mina, little thought exercise here. At the end of the college football season, team A is 10 and 2 and then team B is 10 and 2. They both have some solid wins but team B beat team A head to head who should be ranked higher.
C
Is this about Notre Dame and Miami?
E
It's about team A and Team B.
C
I'm just trying to guess because I'm really not locked in team A and team B. I'm gonna go with the team that's not Miami. I need your support. I have no idea. That was a joke. I really don't leave two minutes for boring.
A
You can leave now, Mike. I think you should leave.
C
There you go.
A
So can you. Can you give me Chris Cody? I want to play this for Mina. If she hasn't heard it, maybe she can guess on what this is. Let's go Dolphins.
C
Is it people in Spain saying let's go Dolphins?
A
It's A person. Let's go, Dolphins.
C
Who is it?
A
It's a pirate. Ed Orgeron. No, it is Dan Marino in Don Marino.
E
It is Don Marin.
A
In Dan Marino.
B
Not understanding how. Let's go, Dolphins.
E
Chance should.
F
How do you know he's not trying to change the chant?
E
Because he's in Spain. Get it? Don Marino.
A
Oh, my God. Yes.
C
Just making sure.
E
No, not for you.
D
You were saying it.
C
Where are we at? Well, let me tap into your guys. Where are we at on the Mike McDaniel, like, are we full fire or we play this out?
A
I just think if you're stuck with the contract at quarterback, you wait for Tyreek Hill to get back and you put the bandage on it for next year because you don't want to sweep out your je. Your coach and your quarterback all in the same year. When in a bad quarterback draft, like, you don't. You don't even have hope on the horizon, so might as well just bandage it up for a year. That's me. I don't think that's the audience. I don't think that's the fan base. I think wants everybody out here, even if they don't have a better solution. Yeah, and he's 5 and he's 500. As a coach, like, I understand why you're mad at him, but it's not like he's. He doesn't know what he's doing offensively.
C
The Bills game, I mean, the. What they did on the ground in that game. Some of his. I mean, he's a brilliant run game designer. I think you saw that on display. Yeah, I, I've been like, I. When they fired Greer, I. I think my reaction was, I don't know if they're gonna Upgrade A Mike McDaniel this offseason. And I. So I'm in kind of agreement with you. And I was surprised at how many Dolphins fans were upset about him. I guess I understand you're losing, but pretty obviously I don't think he's on the list of problems with the team very high.
E
Mina, would it work with a better.
D
Quarterback or what kind of quarterback would.
E
That Mike McDaniel offense work better with?
B
Maybe one that can move?
C
Yeah, I think that would be helpful. I think moving would be helpful. Arm strength would be helpful. You know, the predictability of it makes it.
A
Does TUA have any value? Does he have any trade value with that contract?
C
I kind of don't. I think I looked at it. It wasn't like if they traded him, it would be like that massive for another team. They would. But I think I just. Can you imagine being a fan base of another team and that's your solution? Like, I don't think that would go over very well.
A
Yeah, but that said, you've heard me say before that I don't know how to untangle quarterback play from skill play. So Geno Smith goes to the Raiders and I'm like, oh, so when you have Smith and Jigba and Lockett and Metcalf, you can look like Geno Smith even though when you leave him you look like the jets quarterback.
B
Get.
C
Yeah. And I think what I, you know, obviously had to eat a lot of crow on. Is it crow? Are you eating crow?
A
Yeah. That's as wrong as you've been thinking. The Raiders were going to be a good at offense because you're such a Pete Carroll, you know, biased person.
C
Eat crow, I think. I don't know. What did that come from, by the way? Because somebody. Yeah, yeah, okay. Somebody ate a crow and was like that was a bad idea. Well, so that was me. What I failed to identify, I think most of all was that how bad the Raiders offensive line would be and how that would bring out Geno Smith's worst tendencies and make them worse. And I think that's what we're seeing. I mean you saw that on Monday, right? Like that it's non playable, non functional situation. But then the quarterback is also amplifying it. So it's like bad things making other bad things worse.
A
Can you look up eat crow for us, the origins of that? Because I don't know why I understand the expression, but I don't know how it began and why anyone is eating crow.
D
Looks like it's a folktale or comes.
E
From a folktale around the 1850s describing the humiliation of being foresee an unappetizing crow.
A
Yeah, I don't imagine the crow. I imagine in terms of the birds, the crow would be the least of the appetizing birds. Right.
F
Dirty bird.
C
Pigeon is worse than crow. I'd rather eat crowd.
A
Falcon was a dirty bird.
C
Falcon's probably delicious.
A
Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Lebatard show is a falcon definitely delicious.
C
Is squab.
A
Pigeon is what is it?
C
Because I've eaten squab.
A
I don't know what squab is.
F
I don't know if I like that made up bird.
C
It's not a made up bird. Look it up.
A
What is squab? I don't know what squab is.
C
Quail. Squab's quail. Squab's quail.
A
Okay. Quail.
C
Never eaten pigeon quail eggs, by the way.
E
Very small.
A
That is correct.
C
Smells delicious.
E
You know when you're looking around the eggs, you're like, what are those? So small.
A
Mina, always lovely to see you. Don't be a str again. I will remind everybody around here the podcast is exceptional. Lenny is better than she is, but Mina's also pretty good. And it's the Mina Keim show featuring Lenny. You're gonna give her the death.
B
Oh, no.
C
One more time.
A
You want to do a promo as a death metal the death metal person for the Lenny show featuring Mina Kimes.
C
Oh, wow. I love cookies, but not as much as I love the mini crime show featuring Letty.
A
It's a very good show and I'm telling you, per square inch, there is not more football information. Great for gambling that you can get stuffed in your face. Who are you doing it with today?
C
Well, not you thought Ben Solak was Bill Barnwell when you texted me about it. I still appreciated you listening to it. I. I think that's the first time that's ever happened. But this last week, Dominique and I do it every Tuesday. And then on Thursdays we have a preview that comes out every Thursday morning. And this week I'm having my friend Luke Sternad on. But every week it's different.
A
It's nice seeing you. Thank you for stopping by. You were looking for to play for her that 6 second of her yammering where she got sort of stuck on a treadmill and you never found her it. And now I'm left with 10 seconds of a segment where I thought I was just going to conclude it with 10 seconds of Mina trying to talk and failing. Instead, it's me trying to talk and definitely failing.
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Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 2: Don Marino (feat. Mina Kimes)
Date: November 19, 2025
Broadcast live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this episode brings football analyst Mina Kimes into the chaos and sharp-witted banter of Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and crew. Through a mix of insight and hijinks, the episode covers NFL injuries, quarterback controversies and evaluations, playcalling critiques, TV and pop-culture tangents, and more. Mina contributes deep football analysis and comic relief, including her death metal Cookie Monster impression, while the group debates topics ranging from Tua’s trade value to the inner workings of the Carolina Panthers and the complexities of grief as portrayed in the show "Pluribus".
[02:16] Dan shows Mina a video of a Chilean beauty pageant contestant performing death metal. This segues into Mina doing her own Cookie Monster/Elmo death metal impression, which sets an irreverent tone.
[23:03] The group goes on a tangent about the new show "Pluribus," breaking down its themes of grief, isolation, and viewer empathy. Mina and Dan bond over the show's dark protagonist.
[03:00] The team discusses injury reporting and the lack of discourse around concussions, focusing on C.J. Stroud’s absence and Dylan Gabriel’s concussion.
[04:19] Critique of "Shador Sanders Mania" and parallels drawn to Tebowmania, discussing hype vs. reality for late-round celebrities.
[05:43] Mina debunks conspiracies that Kevin Stefanski is sabotaging Shador Sanders:
[06:25] Chiefs Postseason Picture:
[07:44] Chiefs Offense Analogy:
[10:06] Seattle Seahawks’ Defense:
[12:27] Sam Darnold vs. Chris Shula (Rams DC)
[17:02] Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers:
[18:51] Carolina Panthers — Most Confusing Team:
[21:32] Chicago Bears: What’s a “success”?
[22:26] Side banter on sideline incidents — Packers lineman caught peeing, and Breaking Bad references.
[23:03 & 25:05] Deep reflection on "Pluribus" and how TV drama reflects the difficulty of grieving while the world moves on.
[25:52] “Chair Company” and Tim Robinson—Debating if Tim Robinson’s character is based on Jim Harbaugh, with insider anecdotes from Mina.
[36:26] Colts vs. Chiefs Preview:
[40:04] Miami Dolphins, Mike McDaniel vs. Tua:
[41:16] The phrase "eat crow" origins and which birds are most appetizing (squab vs. pigeon vs. crow—41:55).
Mina Kimes death metal voice:
Minajokes about gronking her throat after Cookie Monster bits:
On confusing TV recommendations:
"[Concussion discourse about Gabriel] There is zero Dylan Gabriel or concussion discourse. But, yeah, actually answer your question. The CJ Stroud stuff is scary..."
– Mina Kimes (03:33)
"Constipated is such a great word to describe it..."
– Mina Kimes (07:44)
"Sam Darnold struggles against specific types of interior pressures when he has to sort out the rush. That is how I felt watching him in that last year. That’s how I felt watching him this game..."
– Mina Kimes (11:38)
"You could not pay me to bet on the Carolina Panthers.”
– Mina Kimes (18:53)
“My view is just being a playoff team is enough. I imagine Bears have higher aspirations than that.”
– Mina Kimes (21:37)
“AI could never write a single line of dialogue or scene in a show like this because it only comes from the most demented brains on earth.”
– Mina Kimes (34:27)
“I'm going to pick the Colts in this and we're going to break it down in more detail. But... I just think the way this Colts offense is built, they can attack Kansas City..."
– Mina Kimes (36:26)
“I was surprised at how many Dolphins fans were upset about him. I guess I understand you’re losing, but pretty obviously I don’t think he’s on the list of problems with the team very high.”
– Mina Kimes (39:34)
This episode encapsulates the Dan Le Batard Show’s unique blend: sharp and entertaining football insight, pop culture sidebars, and the delightful comic relief of Mina Kimes (especially her metal-voiced Cookie Monster). Listeners get real X’s-and-O’s analysis (highlighted by in-depth breakdowns of team flaws and coaching decisions), honest talk about major injuries, and an offbeat look at sports and society—with plenty of laughs along the way.