Hour 2: Fire & Brimstone (feat. Amin Elhassan)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 2: Fire & Brimstone (feat. Amin Elhassan)
Date: February 9, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Guests: Amin Elhassan, Chris, Gino, Jeremy

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Episode Overview

This hour of the Dan Le Batard Show delivers a signature blend of sports takes, cultural commentary, and comedic bits with a heavy focus on Super Bowl 60—the much-maligned Seahawks win. The hosts and guests dissect quarterback trajectories, Super Bowl narratives, cultural backlash against Bad Bunny's halftime show, and the integrity of NBA games amid gambling's rise. Amin Elhassan joins for his "Weekend Observations," offering both NBA insight and sharp humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Boring Super Bowl 60 & Sam Darnold Discourse

• Super Bowl 60 Recap
  The episode opens with a parody "Boring Super Bowl" song (01:31–02:49), setting a comic tone as the cast laments the lackluster title game:

  "Super Bowl 60? More like Super Bowl snooze fest. Okay, hands down, the most boring Super Bowl I've ever watched." – Stugotz (01:35)

• Seattle’s Legacy & Darnold, Hall of Famer? Dan challenges the notion—floated by Zaslow—that Sam Darnold has a Hall of Fame trajectory (03:15–04:59). He backs up his skepticism with statistics and context:

  "56 games, 55 interceptions, 35 fumbles. That’s how much can change... if you’re a quarterback who had those numbers... you should not be allowed admission to the Hall of Fame." – Dan Le Batard (03:34)

• How Sustainable is Seattle’s Run? The roundtable debates sustained success versus Super Bowl one-offs, referencing teams like the Eagles and Chiefs (05:04–11:12). Amin adds concern for staff attrition:

  "I’m actually really worried about Clint Kubiak leaving to the Raiders... he was the unlocking factor in Sam Darnold’s [success]." – Amin Elhassan (05:12)

• Overlooked Turning Points Plays of chance and unpredictable moments—like the helmet two-point conversion—are highlighted as crucial to the Seahawks’ run (07:52–08:30).

2. Evaluating Super Bowl Legacies

• Comparisons to Past Teams The hosts reference “winner drop-off” cases (Ravens/Dilfer, Eagles/Foles, etc.), debating if Seattle is bound for short-term or long-term relevance (09:04–10:45).
• Quarterback-Led vs. Defense-Led Titles Discussion weighs whether winning with a non-elite QB signals a sustainable window or likely regression, invoking the Trent Dilfer/Baltimore Ravens example.

3. Fire & Brimstone: Comedy and Weekend Observations

• Toilet Humor & Super Bowl Monday Stugotz launches a recurring bit about Super Bowl leftovers, culminating in a ranking of bathroom events:

  "Number five, Fire and brimstone. Number four, Shock and awe... Number one, Childbirth. That’s right, ladies, I now know your pain." (20:23)

• Halftime, Commercials, and "Toilet Bowl Monday" Stugotz divides America into "Super Bowl halftime people" and "commercial people" (15:24–16:21), then rails about postgame bathroom distress.

4. Bad Bunny's Halftime Show: Culture Wars & Backlash

• Jake Paul’s Critique and Cultural Ignorance The show dissects Jake Paul’s viral rant labeling Bad Bunny a “fake American citizen,” with Logan Paul countering in support of Puerto Rican inclusion (25:00–27:00). Dan and Amin examine the undercurrent of racism and public ignorance:

  "It is the pinnacle of racism. And also showcasing the absolute dogshit educational system that we have in this country..." – Stugotz (25:52)

• Celebrating Hispanic Culture Dan spotlights the show as the "single most Hispanic thing I've ever seen televised on American mainstream television," and frames backlash as cultural insularity (34:10–34:24).
• Amin on the American 'Melting Pot' Ideal

  "The only way you can say this is un-American is if you basically say this country is about white people and white men in particular. And anything that is a divergence from that becomes un-American." – Amin Elhassan (35:08)

5. NBA Integrity in the Gambling Era

• Utah Jazz Point Shaving Accusations The Jazz's apparent benching of key players for draft position is slammed as "point shaving" in modern form, now problematic with legalized gambling (35:34–38:22).

  "Will Hardy, whether it’s his decision or an organizational decision... the Utah Jazz actively manipulated the outcome of a game that happened." – Amin Elhassan (37:36)

• Gambling Market Regulation Concerns Discussion of Giannis’s questionable partnership with prediction markets highlights the risks of unregulated betting platforms (38:22–39:49).

6. Notable Comic Bits and Cultural References

• McDonald's All-Americans The phrase triggers memories of actual McDonald’s food, bringing levity to basketball broadcasting (14:14–14:47).
• Song Parodies & Commercial-Ready Covers
  • Jeremy is tasked with musical bits, including a Miller Lite parody song to close the hour (40:22–41:18).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Description | |-----------|-----------|------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:35 | Stugotz | "Super Bowl 60? More like Super Bowl snooze fest..." | | 03:34 | Dan | "56 games, 55 interceptions, 35 fumbles... you should not be allowed admission to the hall of Fame." | | 05:12 | Amin | "I’m actually really worried about Clint Kubiak leaving..." | | 08:08 | Dan | "Seattle...loses it 1,000 times... it’s the difference between the Rams having to win three games on the road..." | | 10:12 | Dan | "Trent Dilfer is the category that I’m putting Sam Darnold in." | | 15:24 | Stugotz | "There are three types of people in this world... Me? I’m a Super bowl halftime kind of guy." | | 20:23 | Stugotz | "Top 5 things to call my dump...Number 5, Fire and brimstone..." | | 25:52 | Stugotz | "It is the pinnacle of racism. And also showcasing the absolute dogshit educational system..." | | 34:10 | Dan | "It was obviously artfully and proudly a showing of his cultural heritage..." | | 35:08 | Amin | "The only way you can say this is un-American is if you basically say this country is about white people..." | | 37:36 | Amin | "Will Hardy... the Utah Jazz actively manipulated the outcome of a game..." |

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Boring Super Bowl Song & Recap: 01:31–02:49
• Darnold Hall of Fame Debate & Seattle’s Future: 03:15–11:12
• Toilet Bowl Monday & "Fire & Brimstone" Comedy: 15:24–21:27
• Bad Bunny Halftime Show & Jake Paul Reaction: 25:45–35:34
• Utah Jazz & Gambling Integrity: 35:34–39:49
• Miller Lite Parody Song: 40:22–41:18

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Tone & Style

• A mix of locker-room banter, irreverent pop-culture riffs, and moments of sharp sociopolitical criticism.
• Commentary oscillates between deadpan (Stugotz) and earnestly analytical (Dan, Amin).
• The hosts lean heavily into self-awareness and meta-humor, with running gags about bodily functions and sponsor reads.

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Conclusion

This episode blends sports analysis with cultural conversation and offbeat comedy, encapsulated by debate over the Super Bowl 60's legacy, Sam Darnold as a franchise QB, the ripple effects of mainstreaming gambling, and the cultural resonance (and backlash) of Bad Bunny's halftime performance. Amin Elhassan’s appearances punctuate the show with insider perspective and wit, while the cast never shies from pressing questions about the intersection of sports, race, and fandom in America today.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jeremy should also have a song late in this hour, paying off the bit he set up earlier. So here's this song from Streeter on a boring Super Bowl. Five, four, three, two, one. And that's the wrong thing. All right. Leave it all in Boring Super bowl in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

The Seattle Seahawks have won Super Bowl 60.

[Stugats]

This has gotta be the most boring.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

Super Bowl I've ever seen.

[Stugats]

Super Bowl 60? More like super bowl snooze fest. Okay, hands down, the most boring Super Bowl I've ever watched. This is deadass.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

The worst Super Bowl I've ever seen.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

I thought I was gonna lose my mind. I'd rather watch paint drive than this Super Bowl.

[Stugats]

Up until the fourth quarter, this game.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

Was an absolute snooze.

[Stugats]

Fe.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

That game was the most boring Super Bowl I've seen in a minute.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

When a kicker puts up 17.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

That shit's a no from me.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Boring ass Super Bowl.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

It's punt after punt after punt after field goal. We saw no touchdowns until the 4th. Don't be fooled by the final score. At least Bad Bunny did his. At least the Pats didn't win another.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Ring.

[Stugats]

At this Super Bowl.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

I was so bored, though.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Watching this Super Bowl.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

This was such an awful Super Bowl.

[Stugats]

I'm not gonna lie. That was so bored.

[Chris]

This was so boring.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

It was terrible.

[Chris]

Yeah, sometimes we get bad ones.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

It's been a minute since, well, I guess Mahomes has played in a couple.

[Chris]

Of bad ones last year.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Last year was bad, where they got throttled a couple times, but it was still Mahomes in the middle of it. And Mahomes losing is the biggest story in the sport.

[Chris]

We had a great run of, like, three consecutive good ones.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Well, but this is what happens, okay? And this. This is a little bit surprising to me that Zaslow would dare say Sam Darnold has a fair chance to make the hall of Fame. I'm just going to give you the stats of his first five seasons, okay? 56 games, 55 interceptions, 35 fumbles. Like, that's how much can change with this kind of run. Where Zaslo said something that's laughable. Like, this. This is not a. This is not a Hall of Fame quarterback under any circumstances. Even if his next 10 seasons look like this one, because he led the league in turnovers, and he's not likely to go on a Tom Brady run of being in the super bowl every year and winning seven of them in the 11 times that he goes or the 10 times that he goes because he's Sam Darnold, and he's still Sam Darnold. And whether he's a different Sam Darnold, he's still Sam Darnold. And those numbers. 56 games, 55 interceptions, 35 fumbles. Cannot be allowed in the hall of Fame, even if you had them in high school. Like, you can't get by a ticket to the hall of Fame. Like, if you're a quarterback who had those numbers at any time in your life, you should not be allowed admission to the hall of Fame. Never mind being discussed as. Is it fair to think of him as a Hall of Famer? What are you doing, Zazzle? Somebody wins. So if he. You realize if he loses yesterday's game by a point, you're not saying any of this correct, like, you're just assigning a bunch of shit to him. Like, he didn't even play that well, man. That's his lowest completion percentage of the season, second lowest yards per attempt. He. Oh, he. He overthrew Smith and Jigbone should have been picked off before the end of the half with a dumb play that Gonzalez somehow didn't make the intercept, by the way. Yeah, he was great.

[Gino]

Okay, I have two points. I want to make number one. Seeing what we saw from this Seattle team all season and then winning the super bowl, we. We would agree they probably have a window here where maybe they could do this again, right?

[Stugats]

Possibly.

[Amin]

I don't know. I'm actually really worried about Clint Kubiak leaving to the Raiders. I, I need to see who's going to fill that vacuum at oc because he was the unlocking factor in Sam Darnold's.

[Gino]

You know, who's the unlocking factor last.

[Amin]

Year then Kevin o', Connor, another great offensive coordinator.

[Gino]

Two different guys. Now two years have unlocked him. So I don't know. I. And by the way, and so now it brings you to the other point. He was drafted number three overall. Like this is what he was supposed to be. And who's to say that now he's not gonna be this guy for the rest of his career?

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

What, 20 turnovers in a season leading the NFL?

[Gino]

No, like a quarterback who is a.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Contender every single year. Just. Look, man, this, this part gets frustrating to me always. Okay? There were 10 games during this season for Seattle where people forget that they were bad at offense. There were 10. 10 games in the middle of their season that it just gets forgotten. And it'll get forgotten forevermore because they end up winning the title. But this is what we do with quarterbacks. And I just caution you on. Let's see what they look like for the next five years. Like, the Eagles were pretty good for a while and then all of a sudden they're not. The Chiefs were pretty good for a while and then all of a sudden they're not. And they had more, I think, than when they won the championship. I thought they had more than this Seattle team has. Right.

[Chris]

But the Eagles had what, a three year run and the Chiefs had what, a nine year run? This is the start of Seattle.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I don't.

[Chris]

I don't. Yeah. Could they be a one and done? Maybe, but I don't.

[Gino]

This looks like a team that's going to be able to contend for a little bit.

[Chris]

They have a young Gore.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

You guys say that, but there are all sorts of factors in terms of who's chasing them and injury and all sorts of crud that ends up happening. And the quarterback is still Sam Darnold. Like you can reinvent him some, but please. And perhaps they could do it the way the Eagles do. Where Jalen hurts is a bit of hard to quantify as a quarterback because he's not necessarily the reason that they're winning, although occasionally he is the reason that they do win. And I will say again that the game Darnold won was the Super Bowl. They played two weeks ago against the Rams when he needed to be better than the MVP of the league. And he Was what happened in that game and in their games against the Rams this season. Is the difference between them being a one seed and a five seed. Like that's a two point conversion. Is the difference between them having to go on the road for all three of their road all three of their playoff games.

[Amin]

And the most un. Improbable, like you can't even do that. If you tried a thousand times where the ball hits the helmet, goes forward, then Charbonnet picks it up inside of the end zone for the two point conversion like you that would be in a movie and you'd be like, oh.

[Stugats]

This is kind of bullshit.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Seattle, if they played that game, a Seattle loses it 1000 times. If they play it again 1000 more times, they lose it a thousand times. And it's the difference between the Rams having to win three games on the road and Seattle getting to get a buy and then play the broken 49ers in the first round and then go throughout the postseason without Sam Darnold making a turnover when he's more likely to make a turnover than any quarterback in the league.

[Amin]

And we didn't really talk about the 49ers. If they were healthy, they might have been the better team of both of those teams.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Well, that's the other thing. Right. Like that's, that's the other thing about. I would just caution you to think that any of these things are recreatable. Right. Like I know Cody was saying last week. And then Patriots might be a dynasty. That seems more likely to me given that they're now going to draft a whole bunch of people on offense to make sure that their quarterback doesn't get sacked that way because their quarterback is better than Seattle's quarterback.

[Chris]

I'm looking at the recent history of the Super bowl, like 30 years. The only time like a Super bowl winner has dropped off completely is when they've had either Manning or Brady retire on them. Usually if you win the super bowl, you're around for a while like maybe you don't win another one. The Saints won a Super bowl, were in the conversation. Lost plenty of playoff games as favorites, but they didn't go away.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Yeah, but they had Drew Brees, like Brad Johnson's team doesn't stay there.

[Chris]

This would be what I'm saying for like, for you to talk about this scenario in which Sam Darnold is maybe not. Not this potential hall of Fame trajectory guy, they would have to do something pretty unprecedented, which is go the way of like certain super bowl losers like the San Diego Chargers, like The Cincinnati Bengals of Joe Burrow who have gone away recently. It doesn't really happen. The Carolina Panthers of Jake Delome, they went away. The Cam Newton Carolina Panthers, they went away.

[Gino]

Falcons and Matt Ryan.

[Chris]

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't really happen to the winners.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I mean, it did happen to Trent Dilfer. Right. Like Baltimore never won.

[Chris]

Baltimore did win again with Joe Flacco and Ray Lewis on that team that won that.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Okay. Trent Dilfer is the category that I'm putting Sam Darnold in.

[Amin]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

But Baltimore was never bad.

[Chris]

Baltimore wasn't bad.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Yeah. But never bad is not the same as winning it all the time.

[Chris]

Like only one team they were in AFC championship games. Like, they didn't go away.

[Gino]

And you think Dilfer and Donald are in the same conversation?

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I don't. I shouldn't do that. But I'm just doing the reasons that I'm doing. All the other times I've seen a team win not because of its quarterback. Like that game yesterday was not won because of Sam Darnold. It wasn't that. It's just not like they gave Kenneth Walker the mvp and it wasn't one.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

Because of him either.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Like, they won because the defense was strong. And to that degree, Ray Lewis and what you're talking about with those Ravens. Yeah, they got Joe Flacco and they won once. I just. I'm not as convinced as the rest of you are that this Seattle thing is here to stay, given that I just. They. It would have been very easy for them to lose a first round playoff game on the road at a five seed because it almost happened to the Rams. The.

[Amin]

In the Rams super bowl against the Patriots. Brady really wasn't spectacular in that Super Bowl 13 3. They won. He threw for 260 yards in a pick, but nothing really spectacular. That defense was really good in shutting down whatever McVeigh wanted to do. So it's like that's the last time I can think of a really good defense kind of propping up a quarterback.

[Chris]

It could be the Nick Foles thing, where Nick Foles wins a Super bowl with the Eagles. They take a slight step back, but a lot of those guys are still on the team. And they make it to a Super bowl with a different quarterback, and then they eventually win it.

[Gino]

You know, Sam Darnold's full name is not Samuel, Just Sam.

[Stugats]

Just not Sampson.

[Gino]

Just Sam.

[Stugats]

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[Gino]

Don lebatard.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call?

[Dan Le Batard]

Strike one would be strike. And then you stand up and you.

[Stugats]

Give a good point to the right stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's same for strike two, but strike three. You get down low, you got your hands behind the catcher. All right, the right arm goes up into the air.

[Stugats]

Hyah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And then you finish it with the punch. The right arm flings way up into the air.

[Stugats]

Hyah. I wish I could see that. The audio's great.

[Gino]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Amin is ready for us. But before we get to Amin and his weekend observations, why is it that our friend Stan Van Gundy is somebody that has been at the centerpiece of your conversations lately? If you haven't watched Stan, he's doing great work on Amazon. He's also very skinny. Now, Stan Van Gundy has lost a ton of weight and is doing exceptional work for Amazon. Why is it. Why were you talking about him earlier?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, my God. I was talking about him because he's doing a broadcast, and they're at the free throw line. This is Ron Holland from the Pistons, and it's just a normal broadcast. And it's Stan Van Cunning doing the kind of analysis that I need done with my basketball.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

McDonald's All America in 2023. Won two state titles in high school.

[Stugats]

Well, I went to McDonald's yesterday.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, just. That is the kind of analysis that I need. Because that's what I thought about when you. When you say McDonald's all American, I'm in my brain assessing the last time I had.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

What if I say Mike McDonald? Is that what you also do?

[Gino]

When I say Mike, he's lowercase.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

When I say Mike McDonald's offense or when I say Mike, McDonald's def. Do you also think.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not as much with McDonald's all American, cuz McDonald's all American. I know that. Is that McDonald's that you're talking about.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Where is Jeremy? Still working on his parody songs. Let's go ahead and do Amin's weekend observations.

[Gino]

It is time for. I mean, to share his game notes.

[Stugats]

No one in the media will tell you what happened.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Better than my voice. I mean.

[Stugats]

Miller Light Legendary moments Start with a light. Dan, there are three types of people in this world. Super bowl halftime people, super bowl commercial people. Me, I'm a Super bowl halftime kind of guy.

[Chris]

Could I get that Miller Light? Read one more.

[Dan Le Batard]

Read it. It was so good. Just read it one more time.

[Stugats]

Weekend Observations is brought to you by Miller Lite Legendary moments. Start with a light. Weekend observations is brought to you by Miller Lite legendary moments. Start with a light. Dan, there are three types of people in this world. Super bowl halftime people and super bowl commercial people. Me, I'm a Super bowl halftime kind of guy.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

You did mention that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Who's the third kind.

[Stugats]

Thank you, Chris. Oh, people in the Epstein files. Stots was right. Super Bowl Saturday. Because today was Toilet Bowl Monday.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

It hurts, right?

[Stugats]

Holy man, everybody. I have been dumping non stop this morning. I cannot.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Okay.

[Stugats]

Get enough matter out of me.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Okay.

[Amin]

Hey.

[Stugats]

Hard, hard on a workday.

[Chris]

Well, next year I can't. President's Day, right?

[Stugats]

Is it?

[Dan Le Batard]

We're gonna have to work.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think we're gonna have to work. But I think next. Next year is the start of it actually being a holiday.

[Stugats]

All right. I can't believe the bad guy from the Incredibles won the Super Bowl. There he is. It's a good shot by syndrome. Bad bunny had more rushing yards yesterday than the Patriots Will Campbell got pushed around so bad that at one point in third quarter, he ended up in my kitchen. I asked him to pass me a Miller light. Lindsey Vaughn, look at me. Louise.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Really? Hold on a second. Let me do that for you here. Yeah.

[Stugats]

Look at me, Louis. Come on. Oh, look, she's working out with the ruptured acl. Oh, my God, how tough. I'm like, guys, there's a reason why no one plays sports on a ruptured acl. Because then that's happened. That's what happens. And everyone's like, oh, she's so brave. Like, no, not bravery.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pretty sure I saw that the fall had nothing to do with her torn acl, though.

[Stugats]

Yeah, no, I'm. I'm certain. Like, she was fine. She was doing great. She's out here just skiing normally on a torn acl. Come on. You're better than that. Chris, Donald Trump posted that the super bowl halftime show was one of the worst ever and that the dancing was disgusting, especially for young children watching. Maybe ease up on the young children references there, guy.

[Gino]

Yeah, he wasn't watching the other one.

[Stugats]

No, he wasn't. There was no other one. Come on, now. I feel like Danny DeVito's gonna run in right now and just say, do not diddle kids. It's not good. Diddle kids younger than my wife. By the way, Donald Trump also said in the same post that the NFL should replace the new kickoff rule. He goes on. He's like, this is disgusting.

[Gino]

He's been all over that.

[Amin]

He's been banging the drum on that.

[Gino]

One for a while.

[Stugats]

He's not wrong either, but I just like it. Like, oh, it's disgusting. It's a slap in the face. It does represent America, by the way. We're setting records with 401ks and stuff. Also, this new kickoff rule. No bueno.

[Chris]

It drives him crazy.

[Amin]

He's consistent.

[Chris]

It has driven him crazy for years.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

It's a short drive.

[Stugats]

That's a good one. Mina Kimes not getting a tattoo to commemorate the Seahawks title Fraud. At this point, I'm a bigger Seahawks celebrity fan than Mina Kimes is. Although my boy Gino wasn't there. Man, can you imagine? They kept Gino, and he was the one hoisting that super bowl trophy.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Drake may not be ready for the spotlight. Drake may not be ready for this spot.

[Gino]

Yeah. Everyone got it, man.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Yeah. May with an e at the end. Yeah.

[Stugats]

Will Campbell successfully block anyone?

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

29 total pressures in four playoff games for Will Campbell. So he will not.

[Chris]

Your joke did get by Chris. Just. It squeaked through near post.

[Stugats]

Blue Ivy received the compliment of her life from Dan. Dude, for anyone to be told you look exactly like Beyonce. Even Beyonce's own child must be like. Thank you.

[Chris]

Say something about Drew Ski.

[Stugats]

Oh, it's on the way. En Route. Top 5 things to call my dump this morning.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Oh, come on, Oli.

[Stugats]

Thunder and lightning. Number five, Fire and brimstone. Number four, Shock and awe. Number three, Krakatoa. Number two, the rumble in the jungle. If my intestines were a jungle, there was a rumble inside them. And number one, Childbirth. That's right, ladies. I now know your pain.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Really? You're gonna do that? You're gonna do that?

[Stugats]

I do. Hey, you don't know what I went through this morning.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Sir, I know it wasn't childbirth.

[Stugats]

It's a miracle. I'm here. Listen. Just like the miracle birth. It's a miracle.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Does the toilet get more thunder and lightning on Super Bowl Monday than any other day of the year? Here.

[Stugats]

Druski making A joke about JSN's name at the NFL Honors is textbook LWH hanging fruit, which is kind of shocking because I didn't think fruit was in his repertoire. See? Leave the low hanging fruit to me. I. I do this. Well, you. You got to take a higher road than that. At NFL honors. Drew, the Indiana pacers dark horse 2027 NBA champs.

[Amin]

Oh, I like that.

[Stugats]

J. Cole, the fall off banger after banger. Cinefo episode 299 play date starring Kevin James, Alan Ritson, Alan Tudyk and Isla Fisher. Did you guys see Kevin James at the super bowl showing up in character as solo meal? Did anyone see that?

[Chris]

No, I did. I assumed he was shooting something.

[Stugats]

No, no. Promo.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Wow.

[Stugats]

They're doing promo. Movie comes out, I think next Friday. Nice Valentine's Day fair. There's no way in hell Bill Belichick even saw what shirt Jordan was wearing. Speaking of hell, Art Briles. Those are the weekend observations.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

All right, I want to get to a number of these things with Amin. To your guys point about the Seahawks, though, they have the sixth most cap space next. And I believe they have the best odds to win it all because Mahomes is 15:1, which is the worst odds that he has had since he was named a starter in 2018. And also the Seahawks, postseason and regular season, have the best point differential since 2002. 200 winning by 246 points. In the totality of their games, there's no questioning how dominant they were. But I will say again that before that last little nonsense in the four quarter that was going to be the best defensive performance we've ever seen in a Super Bowl. Like just in terms of how many ways they neutralized everything the second best offense in the sport has been doing. What are you. What are you counting on your fingers?

[Stugats]

I mean, Mahomes is on the books with odds to win the Super Bowl.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

He's 15 to 1.

[Stugats]

How he's not going to play. What are you talking about? Is it being on a Super bowl winning team?

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I mean, he's expected to come back and people are going to expect him to be okay at some point during next season.

[Stugats]

Even like a. A really aggressive return from an acl. Well, I don't know. Lindsey Vaughn was working out, so maybe he can.

[Gino]

Oh, and if he's back in nine months, he's back for preseason.

[Chris]

It's become routine now where someone gets injured at that point in the NFL regular season is back for the next regular season. So I wouldn't. I want to.

[Stugats]

You guys. I feel like you guys, people undersell an acl. That's a serious injury, man. And people are underselling. Oh, he'll be back. He'll be fine. Like, no, it doesn't work.

[Amin]

It once was, though. I mean, but then you see guys that are coming back from Achilles tears in like six months flat.

[Stugats]

No, it's. First of all, no one's coming back from an Achilles theater in six months.

[Amin]

Cam Acres, look it up.

[Chris]

Callum Hudson. Adoy Callum Hudson.

[Stugats]

I don't know who that is either.

[Chris]

He's a soccer player.

[Stugats]

You know, he made up that name.

[Amin]

You know. Cam Acres.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Come on.

[Stugats]

You fit in the word no doy in there. Like, there's no way that's a real name. You are mocking me, sir. And I don't like it. I don't take kindly to it.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I have in front of me here and I want to get a means thought on thoughts on the halftime show. But it has divided the Paul family. Jake Paul and are on different sides of this. Jake Paul went to Twitter and wrote, I'm purposely turning off the halftime show. Let's rally together and show big corporations they can't just do whatever they want without consequences which equals viewership for them. You are their benefit. Realize you have power. Turn off the halftime. A fake American citizen performing who publicly hates America. I cannot support that. And then Logan Paul says back, I love my brother, but I don't agree with this. Puerto Ricans are American and I'm happy they were given the opportunity to showcase the talent that comes from the island. I mean, what have you seen in terms of reactions here? And is it just this? Clearly, I'm gonna say racist. I can't say xenophobic because Puerto Rico. Yeah, no, I'm not saying xenophobic because Puerto Rico is the United States, but it's behaving as if it identifies as xenophobic.

[Stugats]

It is the.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

The.

[Stugats]

The pinnacle of racism. And also showcasing the absolute dogshit educational system that we have in this country where many people are discovering through this that Puerto Rico is part of the United States. Like, how do you not know this? It rhymes. I always see these videos. My algorithm is messed up, where they. They have a map and there are no names on the map. And they tell people, like, what country is this? And people will say, Africa, London. And I'm like, forget about not knowing what country it is. Do you not know the difference between a city in a country and a continent? And apparently there are millions of Americans who do not. And this is the era we live in where it's not enough to be racist. It's also, you got to be dumb on top of it. You have to be uneducated and. And really sheltered. I can't even call it sheltered. What are you being sheltered?

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

But isn't racism. Isn't that just. I mean, isn't it just ignorance? Like, isn't that aren't synonyms?

[Stugats]

No, no, because there's a. There's ignorance of, like, the other right, of I don't speak this language, so I. I must fear them. There's ignorance because I haven't experienced this culture. That's okay. Everyone is entitled to be ignorant until they are shown illumination. Because there's just things that we don't know about. Right. And have never encountered but like, to know. Hey, there are 50 states, and also these are, like, territories that the United States kind of controls, like Guam and Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands. Like, to not know that. To not know that. Or, for instance, to not know that there is no official language in the United States. And this is stuff that comes from way, way back.

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[Stugats]

Because they came from places where people were persecuted for not knowing the, quote, official language of the land. So these are things. To me, you can be the most ignorant person. Ignorant? I've never met a black person. I've never met a Puerto Rican. You can be ignorant, but there are things that you should have known anyway. You can say, oh, I'm afraid of Puerto Ricans, but you can't say they're not American because that's just patently false.

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[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

Sunglasses in boxes today but in my bed in the hospital ending our lives all the same.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

St.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

It'S the final night gown.

[Gino]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Amin]

I know the Pauls are involved in WWE and could be something going on here. Is there like a bit of like.

[Gino]

A WrestleManias in two months?

[Amin]

Is there a situation where we could see the Paul brothers versus Benito in a massive like what would be a bigger draw than those two sides?

[Gino]

Logan Paul was the all time greatest celebrity turned pro wrestler and Babani is really good as well.

[Dan Le Batard]

So this is maybe Logan Paul wanting a future match with with Bad Bunny and just being like oh that was not me. I don't agree with my There were.

[Chris]

Credible reports so over the weekend that Bad Bunny was going to be returning to WWE sooner rather than later. Was it the quote?

[Stugats]

Guys, you're not picking up the breadcrumbs here. Come on now. It's not Logan Paul versus Bad Bunny. It's Logan Paul with Bad Bunny versus Jake Paul and whoever the most racist guy in the wwe. There's a lot to pick from that that's the two on two that you want right there W fighting for the side of good versus dumbasses.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I guess the distinction we're making between ignorance and racism not being synonyms is that not all ignorance is racist but all racism is ignorance, is it not?

[Stugats]

I suppose Dan But I guess my thing is I can see a World where someone is virulently racist, but also somehow like, like knows it's worldly. Like knows. Oh no, no. I know that Puerto Rico is part of the United States. I just don't like Puerto Ricans. Like that, that guy exists somewhere.

[Chris]

I, it's, I, I, I, I'm interested by the whole thing and I'm a WWE fan, so I thought initially, like it was a WWE thing. But then I remembered Jake Paul was sitting next to JD Vance like all day at the Olympics. And his perspective is a little skewed as a, as one of these center points in the manosphere universe. As someone that, that is now just realizing the script is being flipped. They're not the popular guys anymore and they're getting ratioed now. And I don't think that he knew where pop culture was at this time.

[Stugats]

Mike, doesn't he train out of Puerto Rico?

[Amin]

He lives in Puerto Rico.

[Chris]

Yeah, he lives there.

[Amin]

He lives there, yeah.

[Chris]

He gets announced from Puerto Rico.

[Stugats]

That's not a. How do you, how guys, like, how does that happen for tax rates?

[Chris]

What do you mean how does it happen? Like their whole, like connective tissue to the world as we know it is skewed because they like the power that they've gotten. They've been invited to inaugurations. They see that every move that they've made over the last 10 years has been rewarded with power and access to some of the most powerful people in the world.

[Stugats]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Gino]

He did try and clarify Jake Paul early this morning what he meant by fake citizen.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think he, I think he was reading the room that he was in. That's my Gimmick with, with J.D. vance thinking that that was what America was and that's what the sentiment was, and it's clearly not.

[Gino]

Yeah, he tweeted here. He's not a fake citizen, obviously, because he's Puerto Rican. I love Puerto Rico and all Americans who support the country more. So Bunny is fake because of his values and criticism of our great country.

[Chris]

Go live in Puerto Rico, taking out what is now what has always been a national hero. But the guy put the country's flag on his shoulder and had that as one of the iconic moments in a Super bowl halftime show that was entirely Spanish and a love letter to his own country. I think Jake Paul's gonna have to go back to Puerto Rico and see some of these faces in the six.

[Amin]

Months of the year that he does live there. Cuz that's how the tax brackets work. If you live there for six months, you don't have to claim taxes, but if you live there for more than.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Six months, I mean, I want you though to tell me because I've been, and blissfully I might add, sort of disconnected from social. I can imagine what the reaction is to Bad Bunny doing what I am calling the single most Hispanic thing I've ever seen televised on American mainstream television Yesterday. It was obviously artfully and proudly a showing of his cultural heritage in a way that had to be moving to people who have not only overcome a hurricane ravaged electricity blockout but also had to endure during the election cycle. Tony Hint Cliff getting up at the Republican National Convention and saying that Puerto Rico is just a trash island. To see that moment happen for Puerto Rico was to me a moving thing and a simple non polarizing celebration of heritage. Now it can only be polarizing cuz all that was was a party. All that was is look at how Hispanic we are. And the only objection to it can be I don't like how Hispanic they are. Are.

[Stugats]

Yeah. First of all, top, number one of all time set design for super bowl halftime show. It was incredible, right? Like him going through the tall grass and, and the little bodega and all that stuff. It was incredible. I, I was, I felt transported. It didn't feel like we were at the super bowl. It felt like we were in a music video being shot. And Dan, I, I think this goes back to what we keep talking about, which is, is the only way you can say this is un American is if you basically say this country is about white people and white men in particular. And anything that is a divergence from that becomes un American. Which again flies in the face of why this country was created to begin with. Like the, the ideals of the melting pot, the ideals of, of like, hey, we're not going to be like these other places that have an official language, an unofficial religion, right. We're going to be a place that is welcoming and open and tolerate for people to practice whatever they practice and speak whatever they speak and to reject that is to me the most anti American thing you can do.

[Gino]

I mean, let me, let me get your thoughts on something I brought up earlier in the show in regards to the NBA. So I'm being serious. When I brought this up about the Utah Jazz, you saw what happened on Saturday night where the Jazz were playing a normal game at the Orlando Magic. You know, Lori Market and Jaren Jackson Jr. They're both having great games and the Jazz are ahead going into the fourth quarter. And then Will Hardy sits all of his Starters, except Ace Bailey sits all of his starters, including Jackson, and Markkanen doesn't play them a minute in the fourth quarter. And, and obviously we. We understand the M.O. there. We understand what's going on. I mean, that's point shaving. Like, there's a strategic decision being made in game to stop winning, and I'm making moves in order for us to lose. Now, how is that not point shaving?

[Stugats]

Yeah, it's. It's. It's not strategic. What happened was they said something about his mama, and then he's like, you know what? You guys don't get to play anymore. And he benched him. And at the end of the game, they apologized. So next game, game, they'll start again. But I have a feeling somewhere in around the third quarter, if they're up again, they're going to say something about Will Hardy's mama, and then he'll get angry.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

But it's not point shaving. It can plausibly be argued that it's not point shaving because you're just putting in worse starters. But they're still trying. They're not actively trying to lose.

[Stugats]

Dan. They are. The players are not actively trying to lose.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

That's what I mean.

[Stugats]

Hardy. But Will Hardy in the organization are actively trying to lose. This is the part where, when. When you welcome gambling as a. A function of your sport, the way we have in American sports, meaning that it's fully integrated and there's money being cash being infused. There are certain activities that in a prior period were not. You don't look twice at now, are offensive. And Zaz is absolutely right. Will Hardy, whether it's his decision or an organizational decision, we'll say the Utah Jazz actively manipulated the outcome of a game that happened. We know why they did it. We know why they did. It's because their pick is top eight protected, and they don't want it to convey. And I get it, and I'm. And I'm all right with that. But the problem is we are welcoming in hundreds of millions of dollars of people betting on these outcomes. And so if I'm someone who bet the Jazz plus the, you know, plus the points. Points, and they're up. And I'm like, this is great. My bet's going to pay off. And all of a sudden, without any logical in universe explanation, in game explanation, the coach sits all of his best players, thus reversing the outcome of the game. That's a big problem. That's a huge problem, and it needs to be addressed. But again, there it's like one on a long list of things that Adam Silver has not had a tight reign on.

[Chris]

I mean, we had our scorned lover type of emotional reaction, Giannis and his prediction market partnership. But the timing on it was curious, and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it.

[Stugats]

Yeah, a lot of people are like, oh, the league has to step in. I'm like, doesn't the government have to step in? Right. If I. If I said, oh, man, Tide sucks. Oh, my God, I can't stand Tide detergent. And then all of a sudden, it comes out that, you know, I'm. I'm the CEO of Tide, but I've sold all my stock.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Stugats]

Like, it just. It doesn't. That's crazy. This. This is insider trading, pretty much. He manipulated a futures market of some sorts. Now, the problem is Kalshi and what's the other one called? Poly Market. They're not regulated at all. DraftKings and FanDuel and fanatics. They all have to be basically within the rules and regulations of America, American law. These places don't. And they get to do whatever and they can advertise for it freely over American airways. If I'm DraftKings or any of these other gambling houses, I'm super pissed because these guys get to play without following any of the rules that the rest of us have to follow. One and two, what they're doing there is a very great example of unregulated behavior where you can have someone be at the center, dare I say, manipulate the news in order to be able to profit from it. That's just crazy.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Amin, good talking to you. Thank you for stopping by. We appreciate it. Jeremy, what are your thoughts here on the song that you have produced? How do you feel about it? Obviously, we rushed you. We made you do it very, very quickly.

[Stugats]

I did my best.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

Okay. That's not a ringing endorsement. Whatever is next here, shout out Miller Lite. All right, let's see what we have here. As Jeremy says, it's not so hard to do a cover comm.

[Jeremy (Song Performer)]

Every time I think that I don't see all my friends enough I go and get the beer that we all love, baby. Cause when I need a drink more than 96 gals is too much. Crack open a can and feel the touch slay me. I look around in moments of legendary golden color it draws me, God multiply with some tough notes. I said ooh, I'm drinking mil alive it leaves all of the beers in the dust I said ooh, I drinking in the light when I need a beer, it's the one I trust.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

That could totally be a commercial.

[Amin]

I stand corrected. That was good.

[Stugats]

Told you.

[Dan Le Batard Show Host]

I need it to be faster and better. Please. Thank you.