Hour 2: Friar Territory

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 2: Friar Territory
Date: February 10, 2026
Setting: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Episode Overview

Hour 2 of the Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz features the crew’s trademark sports takes, irreverent humor, and a surprisingly thoughtful discussion about the politicization of multicultural visibility in contemporary American pop culture—sparked by Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl halftime show. Amid laughter (and a few technical difficulties), the crew navigates NFL and NBA storylines, the cultural dynamics of speaking Spanish in the U.S., and closes with their ongoing “Real or Fake Podcast” game.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Against the Spread – Sports Betting Picks

00:52–04:15

• Olympic Women’s Hockey: U.S. vs. Canada, with heavy analysis on the Canadian captain’s injury and implications for betting.
  • Stugotz delivers: “I say go with the Americans who are a goal and a half.” (00:58)
• College Basketball:
  • Mike Ryan likes Miami Hurricanes +1.5 against North Carolina: “Miami’s got a tough defense, especially at the point of attack. Going Canes.” (01:13)
• NFL Recap and Top 5 Narrative:
  • Chris announces this is his final NFL “Top 5” for the season, teasing NBA content after the All-Star break.
  • Environmental comedy—Tony calls in from the Dwyane Wade statue, dealing with power washers and jet engines: “We are against the elements right now.” (04:28)

Notable List: Chris’s Final NFL Top 5 Takeaways

04:59–07:52

• #5: Nailed a defensive TD call but missed several others.
• #4: Critiques Mike Vrabel for cowardice on 4th and short: “Coward. Sending out the punt unit on 4th and 1 was despicable. Diabolical.” (05:55, Chris)
• #3: “Will Campbell. Wolf.” (06:15, Chris)
• #2: Seattle was the best team wire-to-wire.
• #1: Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl performance was a cultural milestone—growing even more prominent as a Hispanic artist embraced by the NFL.

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2. Bad Bunny, Language, and the Politicization of Culture

11:57–26:00

• Cultural Gratitude and Language Politics:
  • Dan reflects on how “speak English!” became a political battleground post-Bad Bunny’s halftime performance:

    “You guys take ‘speak English’ as a political stance... since when is it a political position? Hey Hispanics, you’re not welcome to speak your language and celebrate your language in this country.” (12:37, Dan)

• Identity, Assimilation, and the Miami Experience:
  • The crew, many of whom are of Cuban descent, discuss how growing up in Miami shapes their perceptions of multiculturalism and the normalization of Spanish.
  • Mike Ryan explains anglicizing his name for acting opportunities—a microcosm of wider assimilative pressures.
• Broader U.S. Climate:
  • Tony theorizes that backlash is intensified by political campaigns targeting Bad Bunny’s anti-Trump stances:

    “I don't think the fact that he was singing in Spanish would have nearly [been as controversial] if Bad Bunny were a very conservative person who was pro-Trump...”

  • Zaz and Mike discuss the performative outrage and misinformation cycles online, referencing fake images of Bad Bunny circulating in right-wing circles.

Notable Quotes

• “I'm not sure that Michael Olowokandi spoke great English.” (38:22, Dan, in the podcast game—showing their tendency to blend humor with real questions about immigrant assimilation)
• “I have not in my life felt what this halftime show became.” (21:50, Dan—reflecting on new hostility towards non-English performance)

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3. NBA Fights, Physicality, and Comparing Generations

27:02–31:41

• Physical NBA Returns:
  • Commentary on the resurgence of physical altercations in the NBA. Isaiah Stewart’s ejection and possible major suspension provide a launching point.

    “We're not doing very many of those anymore, right? ... It's not somebody who'll come out here and kick your ass. And nobody actually wants to mess with him.” (28:46, Dan)

  • The generational gap: Younger NBA players, like Stewart, may not recall the Malice at the Palace, leading to rule infractions.
• Contrast with Hockey:
  • The crew muses on why physical altercations in basketball are penalized differently than in hockey, touching briefly on race and cultural expectations in sports.
• Humor on the Sidelines:
  • Duncan Robinson’s total indifference becomes a running joke:

    “At one point he, like, in the middle of the fracas, he just turns around and rolls his eyes.” (28:22, Zaz)

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4. "Real or Fake Podcast" Game

34:47–38:59

• Segment Rules: Mike Ryan presents podcast names, and the crew guesses which are real or invented.
  • Names include:
    • “Friar Territory” with Mike Cameron and Heath Bell (Real)
    • “Soup to Nuts with Dave Campbell” (Fake)
    • “Off the Edge with Cam Jordan” (Real)
    • “Ear Candy with Michael Olowokandi” (Fake)
    • “Say What Needs to Be Said with Asante Samuel” (Real)
• Signature Banter: The segment is full of mock penalties for minor gaffes, insider references, and the show's self-effacing humor about not understanding how mistakes sound on-air.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan Le Batard on language politicization:

  “Even though you're grateful to be here... I have not in my life felt what this halftime show became.” (21:50)

• Chris on NFL coaching:

  “For a guy who said he was gonna cut off his own dick, okay, you gotta have balls to say that... But to have those balls, you gotta go for it on 4th and 1.” (05:28)

• Isaiah Stewart’s raw quote on fighting:

  “You're not expecting me to stay on the bench. The F I was drafted to Detroit for.” (32:43)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sports Gambling + “Top 5” NFL Recap: 00:52–07:52
• Bad Bunny Halftime Show & Language Politics: 11:57–26:00
• NBA Fights and League Physicality: 27:02–31:41
• Real or Fake Podcast Game: 34:47–38:59

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

True to form, the show weaves high-spirited debate, cultural reflection, and locker-room levity. Hour 2 amplifies the voices and stories of Miami’s multicultural landscape against the backdrop of national tensions—showing how sports media both shapes and reflects contemporary culture. The episode is by turns deeply personal, hilarious, self-deprecating, and incisive, making it compelling for both long-time fans and first-time listeners.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Against the spread is presented by DraftKings.

[Chris]

DraftKings.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Crown is is yours. Roy, what do we got?

[Stugats]

Olympic women's hockeys tonight is the United States versus Canada. The Canadians are without their captain, Marie Feliz Poulain. She's out with a lower body injury. That's a big blow to Canada. So I say go with the Americans who are a goal and a half.

[Mike Ryan]

Favorite tonight against the spread. Mike, against the spread. The lines move some, but I'm going to take the Miami Hurricanes plus one and a half. Seven o' clock tip ESPN tonight. Biggest game of the season. Biggest home game of the season for the Miami Hurricanes. Let down spot for North Carolina. Miami's got a tough defense, especially at the point of attack going canes. Oh, g. Give me that spray.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy, how did you took the US Women's hockey team minus five and a half goals. What happened with that bet on the.

[Stugats]

The previous bet, I believe they did not cover. They scored five and the line was.

[Mike Ryan]

Five and a half. That Swiss goalie is awesome. Awesome.

[Dan Le Batard]

They should have covered that game. They were pounding her with.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I think that. I think that she's like had like in her last two games she's faced close to 100 shots.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sorry. That was on me. Chris, I'm going to have to minor pedaling for leaking confidence. No, I saw it. I saw you looked at. You looked at me out of the corner of your eye pounding her. You get out of here. Just get out of here. You're leaking confidence. I. I'm losing people right and left. Jeremy is preparing a song. Tony has been banished. I have reason to be mad at Tony, okay? Because Tony was going to do the whole show today in Spanish and just forgot and it would have been funny him trying to talk to zaz all show in Spanish and zsas not understanding anything he said, let's go out to Tony. Now he's laughing he's laughing. He's out there. He's at Dwayne Wade statue. He's chosen a symbolically ugly spot for his ugly performance today. I don't know what the sound is there.

[Stugats]

It seems like he's buzzing. So let's get.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, let's get that down. We'll come back to him. It's continuing with his ugly performance. We will get back to him as soon as we can. I wanted to.

[Stugats]

Oh, hold on. The pressure washing the building.

[Chris]

So that's the pressure washer.

[Stugats]

Tony is good.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

So I thought that was a connection issue.

[Dan Le Batard]

So then we'll go to him with.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, lean in.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right. Lean into pressure. Watching washing in the background. I am now pressure watching you. Feeling like you're going to fail here. We're going to. Let's do a top five. But you're. You're laughing at the fact that you forgot to speak Spanish during today's show.

[Tony]

Correct.

[Dan Le Batard]

At a time of great, proud cultural heritage.

[Chris]

I'm laughing at the start of the segment where Chris knew that he had said something that was going to reflect poorly on every.

[Dan Le Batard]

On everything.

[Mike Ryan]

Excellent.

[Dan Le Batard]

And that made me laugh.

[Chris]

And then the Spanish thing made me laugh. But then right where they're about to come to me, the pressure washing starts. It's kind of been.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's adversity, Dan.

[Mike Ryan]

But that's what we do.

[Dan Le Batard]

We push through adversity. We got to play in the elements. Yeah. Klosterman likes it that way. Better go ahead and give us your. Your last top five of the season. All of this needs a good, vigorous power washing. I can't believe you started right when you were talking. Roy thought. Roy thought the audio was bad because of the nearby power washer. Any. Oli, are you starting with number five?

[Chris]

No, we're starting off Oli. No, Olis. Just five. But this is the last one of the NFL season, so I'm gonna have to find a new side hustle, Dan. Obviously, the NFL is my thing. We're gonna have to maybe move forward going forward after the All Star break for the NBA, into Tony's top five NBA edition. So that's a little. A little something to look forward to now that the NFL is done. There's also a jet plane flying by, too. So we are. We are against the elements right now. So. And if somebody wants. Dan, if somebody comes over and wants to take a picture with the statue, I have to let them.

[Mike Ryan]

Right?

[Chris]

Just in case.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Or you could include. Include them in your top five. If anyone stops by to get a picture of Michael Chiklis in statue form. That'd be good.

[Chris]

All right, we'll start off in the. With number five. I nailed the defensive TD call. I was looking back at the things that I said were going to happen a couple weeks, two weeks ago, and I only nailed one thing, which was a defensive touchdown. I missed the JSN one. I missed a bad bunny one. I missed both QBs to throw.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, you got frable. You got frable. Will be a coward on 4th and short. You got that?

[Chris]

Speaking of that, number four, Mike Vrabel did what Mike Rabel does on 4th and short. Coward.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cowardice.

[Chris]

For a guy who said he was gonna cut off his own dick. Okay, you gotta have balls to say that. Well, you would only have balls if that were to happen because you'd cut off your dick. But to have those balls, you gotta go for it on 4th and 1. Okay, 4th and 1 on your 47. You know what you do? You get the offense, you come around, you say, hey, we're gonna kick their ass on this one play. Give me a yard for the rest of your lives right now, and you go get that yard. And maybe things would have changed, but he was a coward, Dan. Sending out the punt unit on 4th and 1 was despicable. Diabolical.

[Dan Le Batard]

Something that's not being talked about enough is that your reigning super bowl champion was also the most coward filled coach there was in the league on fourth down. Didn't care for it, didn't need to do it, trusted his defense. Wasn't somebody who did much of anything on fourth down. Was played scared the entire time and won the championship.

[Chris]

Yeah, but when you have that defense, I think, you know, he has a stands to reason, he trusts them a little bit more. Number three, Will Campbell. Wolf, we'll move that one on very quickly. There's nothing to say there, Wolf.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's it.

[Chris]

Number two. Number two. Seattle was really the best team to wire to wire this season. We just didn't see it quick enough.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's the truth.

[Chris]

All season they were just beating teams and they were like, oh, wow, like, Seattle's kind of good, huh? Oh, Seattle's kind of decent. And then all of a sudden they're winning the Super Bowl. Not, not letting up. What was it, 10 straight wins? They didn't. They didn't have a turnover in how many weeks in a row? Like, their defense played amazing. They were really wire to wire champs this season.

[Dan Le Batard]

Number one.

[Tony]

Number one.

[Chris]

Bad bunny only got bigger after this amazing super bowl performance. Again, it's been politicized. Left, right, center. Everybody in the everybody and their mother has something to say about Hispanics, has something to say about Bad Bunny. The only thing that I saw is that the biggest artist on the planet got bigger getting put over by the biggest league in the world, in the NFL. So it's a very cool moment for Hispanics, a very cool moment for Bad Bunny fans that have been like me watching him when he was just On SoundCloud in 2019, before the pandemic, before the albums, before all these things when I was like, wow, man, wait a second, this guy has a sound that's so different in the genre to now see the entire evolution of what he's been able to do and then coordinated on the biggest stage and in American sports is super cool from a Hispanic point of view and from a Bad Bunny point of view. So as a fan, I'm very excited for what the future is because there's only up to go from here. Like he's already the biggest artist on the planet. Like, how much bigger can he get?

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you Tony. Appreciate it. Want to and you chose a good spot. An ugly performance, but you salvaged today by going to the spot where Michael Chiklis is commemorated forever by the Miami Heat organization. We appreciate it.

[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard.

[Tony]

I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats don't do it.

[Stugats]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wanted to talk to you guys before I get to the NBA fights because I do want to talk about the NBA fights. But when he mentions the idea that that halftime show was politicians, okay, that that word. You've heard me say before, that generally speaking, Hispanics, no matter which group you choose from, wildly grateful to be in this country, know very often what freedom or lack of freedom looks like. And so you rarely have issues with Hispanics appearing to you to be ungrateful for the opportunities this country provides. That's not something I hear a lot of when Tony uses the word politicized for a guy who is doing that show in his native language but is saying during it God bless America and is also celebrating the United States as part of the gratitude in that performance. Okay, you guys take speak English as a political stance. Like, just. I'm talking. I'm not talking about you guys. I'm talking about everyone listening to this. Speak English is a political statement because it's not been a platform that I've seen that undisguised before. There you might go immigration to be anti Hispanic, but it's not speak English, mother bleeper. Like, it's not quite that brazen.

[Stugats]

When the president of the United States says that the country's language is English, then that makes it political.

[Dan Le Batard]

Again, more subtle than speak English. Like, even more subtle than what's happening right now, which is you just saw someone single and the objection politicized is speak my language. That's not a political position. Since when? Since when is it a political position? Hey, Hispanics, you're not welcome to speak your language and celebrate your language in this country. Even though you come to this country gratefully, you often come to this country not having learned English because any of us would have trouble right now if we were in China or Russia trying to get around. But Hispanics are generally. I don't believe that the people who are objecting to the lack of English here have any problem with the gratitude or humility of Latin people as a group for being in this country.

[Zaz]

Is it speak English or is it speak English?

[Mike Ryan]

Around me, it's sing English. He speaks English. He knows English, he's learned English. So it's just make me more comfortable because my psyche is so fragile that I can't endure for 12 minutes you trying to do something entertaining in your own life.

[Dan Le Batard]

But do I sound like an idiot when I say how that. Is this politics, or is this just politics of the day? Like, is this what politics has turned into? Because at no point in my life, okay, as somebody who speaks English first but had a household where my grandparents didn't speak English, there are giant swaths of Miami where you can live more comfortably in Spanish than you can in English, or all around Dade county because there are so many people here who don't know English, and it's not because they're not trying to learn. There are other problems when you come to this country and have to make a living, when you used to be a doctor in your country, but you got to be a plumber here. And learning the language is not, you know, taking a course when it's hard, very hard to learn a language after the age of six, like, it's a very difficult thing. Most of the people listening to this do not speak a second language because of how hard that is, no matter whether you took it in high school or college or not. I've just. Am I being an idiot when I say I get that it's the politics of the day, but it's been distorted so that this is also politics. So you could just wrap your hate or ignorance or your lack of tolerance in something else.

[Tony]

My own theory is that the language, the fact that he was singing in Spanish, only became as controversial as it did because Trump and Trump supporters led that feeling. And why did they do that? Because Bad Bunny is openly anti Trump and anti ice. If Bad Bunny were a very conservative person who was pro Trump and who had no problem with the immigration tactics going on, I don't think the fact that he was singing in Spanish would have nearly.

[Zaz]

That would have been interesting.

[Stugats]

I agree.

[Chris]

Sure would have supported him.

[Mike Ryan]

I agree. Look at all the people that talk themselves into liking Kid Rock. I agree. If it were like Nicky Jam, I think it would have been received differently, but it still would have made some waves because it's a first song.

[Dan Le Batard]

So K pop. If it had been K Pop, even.

[Mike Ryan]

K Pop, like, there's plenty of English lyrics, especially with the ones that have crossed over over here, like, there's big time.

[Dan Le Batard]

But if it hadn't been. I'm trying to think of what the parallel is for this, because to answer.

[Mike Ryan]

Your question, this is what politics has become over the last 10 years. If it were about policy, policy isn't exactly positively affecting American people right now, they're getting a whole bunch of stuff they didn't vote for, and they're talking themselves into it. What's more important is who finishes fifth in a swim meet. That's something that you can rally people around because you can divide and conquer, and then you make it about your culture, not about policy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Am I too numb to this because I've been in Miami all of my life, so that I underestimate what the reaction was, which is just to cloak yourself, Cloak. Cloak your hatred in something that people can get behind, which is, yes, I'm oppressed. I'm the threatened one because you're singing in Spanish, I'm losing my country. It's what I was saying to you before about any conversation about inclusion excludes me as soon as you start talking about inclusion.

[Mike Ryan]

It was really a fascinating social study to watch MAGA Cubans interact with this super bowl halftime because none of them were going to Turning Point USA's halftime show. They love their bad bunny, too, and they're willing to overlook that because it's a part of their culture, too. They like it. And it's. It's.

[Zaz]

It really.

[Mike Ryan]

It was.

[Zaz]

But do they get. Do they also get offended at what.

[Mike Ryan]

You know, I mean, they'd like to. And then, like, I was privy to some group chats that were like, well, he didn't wear a dress. That was fine. Like, it's just some of the dumbest commentary that's. That's possible because that's what works. Do you not see the position that we're in?

[Zaz]

I saw some of these, like, the images with him burning an American flag, wearing a dress. And like, I don't. I don't think that picture is even real. I think that's a fake picture.

[Mike Ryan]

You're right. Says it wasn't.

[Zaz]

Yeah, but. But people think it is. And they're like, see, this is what's performing our half term show.

[Mike Ryan]

We had the first generation ever that actually walk back the IQ standards. Millennials to Gen Z. It. We're dumb. We're dumb and so dumb. Look who's been president twice. Look at the platform. It's not about policy. It's not about nuance. It's about, like, they're trying to make boys girls. Are you okay with that? Oh, I'm not.

[Dan Le Batard]

So just getting actually what it is.

[Mike Ryan]

That's exactly what it is. It's been 100% that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. It becomes. Tell me that a man can get pregnant.

[Stugats]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. No one's been inconvenienced by someone speaking span in their everyday lives. And I live in Miami, where you kind of need to know Spanish to get around. I haven't once been inconvenienced recently because I don't know Spanish. Like, I can speak my language in the hardest part, to just be solely speaking English in. In this country, in Miami, Florida, like all these people, like Megyn Kelly doesn't have people speaking Spanish to her. Megyn Kelly doesn't have any reason to be offended. Megyn Kelly probably hasn't had to speak Spanish in a decade, and it hasn't affected her once.

[Tony]

I wonder what the narrative would be today if Bad Bunny had sor placated the controversy and sold a little bit of his soul by speaking in English between the songs, by maybe performing one song in English and the rest in Spanish. I'm glad he didn't. But it would have been very easy to kind of quell the controversy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think so.

[Mike Ryan]

This one's for Megyn Kelly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. What? I don't think it would have. I think it would have been something. If you're going into this already angry about, already aggrieved about all the things happening in America, you're going to find the place to put your outrage. But before I move off of this topic, I just want the people listening. I believe that we are as Hispanic a thing as there has been in the sports environment when it comes to the sports media over the last 20 years. And I don't know the actual backstory when it comes to Billy and Mike. Mike Ryan Ruiz became Mike Ryan. Guillermo Gill became Billy Gill. My father was going to name me Gonzalo or Luis, my grandfather's name or his name, but decided to name his kids Dan and David because during a different time, that's what we're doing to sort of acclimate here and make sure that there are no issues on wherever it is. Our culture gets diluted because we're grateful to be here and we understand as we become Americanized, some of our culture is lost. My brother's dead. We didn't have kids. Whatever was left of Los Hermanos Levatar, the orchestra from Cuba, becomes Dan and David as part of fitting in here and being grateful about fitting in here. I don't know how Guillermo became Billy Mike. I don't know the backstory on how Mike Ryan Ruiz for a while was just Mike Ryan.

[Mike Ryan]

I've said it several times. I was a child actor. I got typecast. I didn't speak Spanish fluently, and all I got offered were Spanish language rules because of my last name.

[Dan Le Batard]

So in my lifetime and around here, the parents are the ones who are having to do things. But in my lifetime here, I've never felt the hostility of speak English. Whatever that is, Whatever's behind that. On. Hey, brown people, something about you is wrong. Some even. Even though you're grateful to be here, even though you're humbled by all of America's gifts and know that its freedoms represent things for you that aren't back home. I have not in my life felt what this halftime show became. Not in my life. It's not something I. When I was a little kid in our neighborhood, it was stupid Cuban. But since then, in my adult life, the hostility of this is not something that I feel day to day.

[Stugats]

I mean, in the 80s, because Miami Dade county passed a law that all government business, business between 1980 and 1993 had to be done in English only. So you didn't fill out I lived.

[Dan Le Batard]

In Broward, that Broward was becoming homogenized first. Okay. My Cuban friends were in Miami. I was. I was living in Broward county, which is where the people who have fled Dade county to Fort Lauderdale make Fort Lauderdale not quite as diverse as Dade County.

[Tony]

Yeah, I'm sure your dad named you Dan to help you assimilate, but he was unintentionally foresightful in doing that. Because if you were named Gonzalo today, you would be more apt to be stopped and interrogated because of your name, because of your background. Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know what my father might be subjected to in the present age of America. Seems to be okay with State militia. We running around disguising the proud boys like, I don't know. I don't think I'm immune to that. I don't think when I see what happens to Don Lemon and whatever passes for politics these days, I don't think it's safe to speak freely, whether I was born in this country or not. Like, I think there are. There are dangers. Now, look, this is the first year of this shit. I mean, it's the fifth year, but it's the first year of what was promised in all of the secrecy of Project 2025 or whatever the hell the name of that project is. Promise. Yeah. Be aggressive with all this stuff. Never back down, never apologize and just trample people with yes. Kid Rock and his allegiances need to be fed because divisions need to be fed.

[Tony]

The other thing is Spanish speakers are in a safe haven here in South Florida. But if you're having A conversation in Spanish in a diner in Montana. You're still going to get looks because you're speaking what really is a foreign language there.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is why I'm saying, though, I must be numb to it, living in South Florida. It's just been such a common part of my upbringing that there are different people here speaking different languages, and they're all sort of from the same struggle of poverty. Like, thank you for being here. We're grateful to be here. Like, most of them are. You know, some of them come from money, but not. The struggle's real for people who are fighting in this country just to stay in this country the way that our parents did.

[Chris]

And Miami is a melting pot. You don't even hear Spanish all the time, right? Like, you hear French, you hear Portuguese, you hear German, you hear Creole. You hear all these different languages because there's so many people of people coming in from all different parts of the world, and you could be walking by somebody at the mall, and they're speaking a language you've never heard of. But, like, it's so commonplace that you don't even stop and be like, oh, what is that? It's like, all right, I'm moving on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because it's, like, normal. So. But imagine, though, okay? So I live in a. And I live in a tourist center, okay? So I'm surrounded by all sorts of languages that I don't understand. Imagine me running out in the street, hey, speak my language. Or speak one of my two languages. What is it? But play your music. I don't want to hear your cultural Heritage celebrated for 13 minutes as a break while Klosserman's walking his dog. Because halftime's a break. I can't.

[Chris]

I didn't like that from Klossman, by the way. He should have sat there and watched that. He would have listened if it was Bruce.

[Zaz]

Didn't you find it weird, by the way, that he didn't take a moment at all to go back and watch it, you know, on the Internet? Yes, he still has.

[Chris]

He's in a log cabin.

[Dan Le Batard]

He says, plus, there was, like, 20 minutes between the end of the half and the start of that concert.

[Chris]

We had to get McCourty's thoughts on Will Campbel getting his ass whipped for three seconds.

[Stugats]

Weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it's the only thing McCordy said. Get his ass whipped. Well, Campbell's getting his ass kicked. Don Lerd, Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more.

[Greg]

I'm sorry I just said in his headset.

[Dan Le Batard]

Haven't you Been to all of them too.

[Tony]

It sounded like you were speaking a lot.

[Mike Ryan]

My bad.

[Tony]

Totally on me. That's 100 on me. All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats.

[Tony]

But that goes without saying, right? That it couldn't.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, now he said it, didn't.

[Stugats]

He didn't say it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Again.

[Tony]

Greg, my apologies.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg. Why Greg? Yeah, Greg.

[Zaz]

He apologized.

[Dan Le Batard]

Craig, sincerely.

[Stugats]

This is the Dan lebatar show with the stug.

[Dan Le Batard]

The fights last night and over the last couple of days in the NBA. I know that Shaq said very recently that he couldn't name three Pistons that is the most physical team in the league. I'm a little bit stunned to see somebody trying to reinvent the three point NBA with no we'll got Isaiah Stewart and we're going to kick your ass and we're going to be super physical like Knicks. Beware. Karl Anthony Towns is gonna get super physical when Detroit starts playing basketball. Trying to take things from you. And they fight with Charlotte. And Charlotte's better now. Charlotte is good little team in Charlotte. Feisty, sneaky, decent. A sneaky decent team. And Detroit won last night in Charlotte. And Isaiah Stewart is comes off the bench. That's going to be a big. You're not allowed to do that anymore. Like that right there is going to get a giant suspension for Isaiah Stewart sees on what Greg is saying and reacting to and then ask him why is it different than hockey. I've done enough race this hour. That's the point that I should be doing. It's not political, it's race. My favorite's Duncan Robinson during this fight.

[Chris]

Where is he?

[Dan Le Batard]

Just on the outskirts.

[Stugats]

Indifferent.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wildly indifferent.

[Zaz]

At one point he like in the middle of the fracas, he just turns around and rolls his eyes. He has no interest.

[Dan Le Batard]

But look at him in the middle of watch right here.

[Chris]

You see him pop into the screen.

[Dan Le Batard]

And he's just like guys. You could tell with his face.

[Greg]

He's like, guys, come on.

[Chris]

Yeah, he was going to right there in the back.

[Greg]

He's like, oh no.

[Mike Ryan]

He'd been to practice with Jimmy Butler before. He knows that that's literally a Tuesday.

[Zaz]

Beef Stew is going to get 10 games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Isaiah Stewart is somebody that they're not making a lot of those anymore in the NBA. Guy who will come off the bench. And everyone knows there, everyone involved there on his team and the others know, oh, this is like Stephen Jackson. This is the guy everyone knows. Once his hands come out, nobody wants any part of those. We're not doing very many of those anymore, right? We're not doing like the villains in that sport are Dylan Brooks or Draymond Green. It's mouth stuff. It's not somebody who'll come out here and kick your ass. And nobody actually wants to mess with him.

[Zaz]

I mean, he's standing on the. Ben, in the game, he's standing.

[Chris]

He's got his warm up on.

[Dan Le Batard]

In the.

[Chris]

In the video, he's got his warm up on.

[Zaz]

He's standing on the bench. And then, you know, the altercation begins. And he's just like, oh, it's time to fight. And he runs out.

[Greg]

He's like, duncan, you got this?

[Dan Le Batard]

Nope. All right, I'll come out.

[Zaz]

Like, it wasn't like he went out there and like, a few seconds later, someone tried him. No, no. It's like, oh, it's time to fight. And he runs out onto the floor and fights.

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys do realize, though, that Isaiah Stewart is of a generation now. We're generation enough removed from how it is. This has been scrubbed from that sport that guys do not come off the bench anymore because the consequences are so severe. Isaiah Stewart did not give that a thought. There was not a thought of a consequence. Nobody else is doing what Isaiah Stewart is doing there, which is like, there's a fight. Let me go get in this right now. Everyone knows Amari Stoudemire helped cost Amin Alhassan's Phoenix Suns, but a generation doesn't know that. Isaiah Stewart's generation doesn't actually know that. Is that right? Do I have that correct? That that malice in the palace is so long ago now and the NBA so successfully scrubbed out the fighting because you couldn't have Nick's Heat, Alonzo Mourning, and Larry Johnson. We can't have Jeff Van Gundy on the calf of Alonzo Mourning anymore. This has been scrubbed out. Isaiah Stewart doesn't actually. Like, he knows the rules, but he might not be of a generation that understands that you cannot do that anymore because it seems like everyone else understands it.

[Chris]

24 years old. What year was Malice in the palace?

[Mike Ryan]

04.

[Chris]

He's four years old.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's funny though, right? Because everyone else knows not to react that way. You don't see, even in the middle of that fight, you don't see anybody else coming off the bench because the penalties are so stiff. Right.

[Zaz]

Everyone else is standing there still. He a beeline. Time to fight.

[Mike Ryan]

I've seen this happen like four times in the last couple of days in the NBA where there's like, oh, this looks like it could be like a scrum. Scrum.

[Zaz]

There were two fights last Night.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

And there was one on Sunday. And Super Bowl Sunday, Clippers, Timberwolves, like, guys had to be separated, and you thought, like, somebody about to throw a punch here. Like, I kind of like that.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think, though, that in any of those games you had an Isaiah Stewart situation where somebody was throwing caution and consequence to the wind. You cannot come off of the bench.

[Tony]

The league will really make an example of that guy. I'm interested to not only the suspension, but I bet he will be fined six figures easy. Well, in the six, I. I think.

[Zaz]

He'S gonna get 10 games and. And 10 games for a guy like Isaiah, you know, remember, that's 10 missed game checks.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's millions of dollars.

[Zaz]

He's gonna lose a lot of money. I think he's getting 10 games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why does it feel different?

[Chris]

I'm looking here, and I don't know if it's a unsubstantiated report, but I'm looking at 25 games without pay right now.

[Zaz]

Whoa, where are you seeing that full court? It's. It's charms Charania.

[Chris]

No, it's full court.

[Dan Le Batard]

Season feel different. Why does it feel different than hockey?

[Tony]

Greg Black and white. Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Beef Stew is a great nickname. He likes his beef in his stew. Gabe Vincent's a Hawk.

[Chris]

Yeah, he got traded.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good to know.

[Stugats]

Deadline move.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, the Lakers waved him. Lebron says they're not a champion.

[Zaz]

Can this be a real quote? I think this is a real quote. Can this be a real quote from Isaiah Stewart? When he was asked why he came off the bench, he said, you're not expecting me to stay on the bench. The F I was drafted to Detroit for.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a video.

[Chris]

No, there's a video of him walking underneath the tunnel, walking out and saying that.

[Dan Le Batard]

How do you feel? How do you feel about how you read that?

[Zaz]

Not that good.

[Dan Le Batard]

You had, like. You had it nice. Like, all it needed to do was be read correctly.

[Tony]

Yeah. The ball was on the tee.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was right there for you. Do you want to give it another crack?

[Zaz]

I do.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Zaz]

Can we pretend like, you know, the last minute didn't happen? You're not expecting me to stay on the bench. The F. I was drafted to Detroit for these there. You're trying to like Twister. All right, can we acknowledge.

[Stugats]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you want to. Do you want to try it again? Because it doesn't seem like. I know there's now pressure on this, but the.

[Zaz]

I don't feel pressure.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay. You don't feel.

[Zaz]

I welcome it.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, well, Thrive in it. Wow. I have very little proof of that.

[Zaz]

You're not expecting me to stay on the bench. The F I was drafted to Detroit for.

[Chris]

It's a did Detroit for.

[Tony]

That's what it was.

[Chris]

Minor penalty. Two minutes for tripping the entire show.

[Zaz]

And at least I don't claim to hang out with people who rip the.

[Mike Ryan]

Crust off their pizza slice.

[Zaz]

Weird.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's no way that is is real even screwed that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, he screwed that up.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's gonna feel that one.

[Chris]

All sins erased on the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thanks, Zaz. No, that's true.

[Stugats]

Oh, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

It caught him off. Mike.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's do the chairman.

[Dan Le Batard]

He. He actually. He actually shouted it over his left shoulder. He's like, I got the killer. I wait till they the off mic dismount is going to get him. And he couldn't say that. Clearly he is headed to Vegas with his wife. Look, Tony. Look at my baloney says. I don't think you understand how difficult it is to have the show Tony's ad and to enjoy how poorly you just did.

[Chris]

Really fake.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's do it. Let's do it. Tony wanted it done hours ago.

[Stugats]

Listen up. Time to think fast. Is this a real or fake podcast?

[Dan Le Batard]

There's a reason I'm so prepared for this segment.

[Tony]

You're welcome.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not sure it was obvious to us that you were trying to speak privately and quickly to Chris and hit the wrong microphone instead told the audience real or fake, and it had no context. Do you think the entire. I don't think the majority of the audience noticed what the nature of your mistake was, which is that you were speaking into the wrong microphone after forgetting to start the show. Speaking in Spanish.

[Chris]

Yeah, you know, again, Zaz messed up.

[Mike Ryan]

On the way out.

[Chris]

Like, who cares about what I did?

[Mike Ryan]

Lots of podcasts these days. Lots of podcasts hosted by celebrities and athletes. So many that you don't know what's real and what's fake anymore. So I'm gonna read you some podcasts. You tell me if it's a real podcast or a fake one.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's been a great game and I'm not good at it. And the worse I am at it, the better that it is. Greg Cody, you fancy yourself good. Greg Cody, actually, I should say right before we get to this, actually ended that segment with his wife saying off air. I don't think of myself as a stubborn person.

[Tony]

I honestly don't.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, this one looks funnier than it sounds. It's called Friar territory, and it's hosted by former Padres Mike Cameron and Heath Bell. Friar territory.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought you were going to say hosted by former Dolphin receiver Irving Fryer.

[Tony]

That's what I thought, too.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, but the. The Padres are called the Friars, and fair territory is a thing in baseball, so it looks really funny. It doesn't sound as funny. Friar territory. Mike Cameron, Heath Bell. Real or fake?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's fake. That's got to be fake. Heath Bell didn't like the media. Didn't. I mean, it was colorful, though.

[Mike Ryan]

Zaz, would you like to venture a guess? Would you like to turn on?

[Dan Le Batard]

Turn your microphone on.

[Chris]

See you, buddy.

[Tony]

Oh, boy.

[Chris]

Long flight delay for tripping the entire show.

[Mike Ryan]

Gentlemen. That is a real podcast. In Friar territory with Mike Cameron and Heath Bell. Soup to Nuts with Dave Campbell. Soup to Nuts. Campbell Soup with Dave Campbell.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, do me a favor. Video. Find a photo of Dave Campbell for the people who do not know who Dave Soup Campbell is, but the lasting image whenever anyone mentions his name that I think of is him. Radisson pool in Bristol, Connecticut. Two o' clock in the afternoon on a Wednesday. A cigarette in one hand and one of those tanning silver things under his chin. Leathery. I don't think that's real. I don't think he's still doing this stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

He's 84 years old. Soup to Nuts. I think it's real. Cast. You think it's real? It is a fake podcast. I made it up.

[Tony]

It should be real.

[Mike Ryan]

Next one, off the Edge with Cam Jordan.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is not Dave Campbell. I don't think, folks, that's a different.

[Mike Ryan]

Day, but I don't doubt that it comes up when you Google Dave Campbell. Baseball. I don't. I assume that's what happened there. But that is not Dave Soup Campbell.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but he's holding up a football book, so he's not.

[Mike Ryan]

He's not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's not. James.

[Mike Ryan]

Who came off the edge with Cam Jordan. Real or fake?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to say that is real. I'm going to say that he likes his media, and I'm going to say that's real.

[Tony]

I say fake.

[Mike Ryan]

That is a real podcast. Next one. Ear Candy with Michael Ola Candy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, no way.

[Stugats]

Wow.

[Tony]

They can't let that guy near mic.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not sure that Michael Olawa Candy spoke great English like I is that.

[Chris]

Wow, Slippery slope. Jeez, my day's looking better.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't remember. Whoa.

[Mike Ryan]

Is it a real or fake podcast?

[Dan Le Batard]

Minor penalty. Two minutes.

[Chris]

Accidental racism.

[Tony]

I say. I say real.

[Mike Ryan]

That is a fake podcast. Does not host a podcast. That's called ear candy. And finally say what needs to be said with Asante Samuel.

[Zaz]

That's real.

[Tony]

I'm gonna say fake again.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's real.

[Mike Ryan]

It's real. Stick at this game.

[Tony]

I was one for five.