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Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Billy
Against the spread. Against the spread.
Mike Ryan
Against the spread.
Billy
Against the spread.
Mike Ryan
Against the spread.
Billy
Against the spread.
Tony
Against the spread. Presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The crown is yours. Roy, what do you got?
Roy
All right, we got Blue Jays and Pirates today. Toronto has had four straight games that went under the total run line versus the National League Central. The Blue Jays have won seven straight road games. In Pittsburgh, it's Kevin Gossman versus Paul Skeens. Skeens. Five straight home games without allowing an urban run. His 213 ERA leads Major League Baseball. He has a 252 fielding independent pitching stat.
Zagak
All right?
Roy
Preventing home runs, liberty walks, not hitting batters and causing strikeouts. He's had 35 strikeouts his last five games and only half a home run for nine innings. That leads National League. So it's Pirates. They are underdogs. They are underdogs by a run and a half. Go with them today.
Tony
Oh, wait.
Mike Ryan
Against the spread.
Zagak
Against the spread.
Jason
Tony, what do you got tonight, guys? We've got a masterful QB matchup in preseason NFL. We've got potentially Josh Johnson versus Desmond Ritter. Do you guys know what teams are even playing if I mention those two Quarterbacks.
Billy
NFL. Zaz, you're there.
Jason
You're right there.
Mike Ryan
Commanders.
Jason
Okay.
Mike Ryan
And Bengals. Okay.
Jason
Are you looking at my screen?
Mike Ryan
No, I just remember that. That Josh Johnson was a Commander last time. Yeah.
Jason
And you knew Desmond Ritter was a Bengal.
Mike Ryan
And I saw a preview for Monday Night Football, which is Commander's Bengals.
Billy
Wow. Well.
Mike Ryan
Or I'm just that smart.
Jason
You're just that smart. The Bengals minus three and a half.
Zagak
You got tickets for that game at $11.
Jason
I'm telling you, go to game time. Figure it out. Take the Bengals, Desmond Ritter and them boys.
Zagak
What's going on with Trey Hendrickson, huh?
Mike Ryan
I'm trying to trade him.
Zagak
Now, that makes a big deal about.
Jason
Figure to come to camp.
Billy
You don't get paid.
Zagak
Cincinnati goes to Jacksonville, then he comes back, doesn't participate in anything. He's still not getting paid. Now they're going to trade him. Maybe. What, are they going to get shape.
Jason
Too, to, like, get ready to play a game in a couple weeks?
Zagak
Interesting.
Jason
I don't like it, but I like them.
Mike Ryan
Do Haywood Highsmiths grow on trees? Now we have to parse what was actually fact, what was fiction. Heywood Highsmith was a valued part that was initially reported to.
Dan LeBatard
No, no, no, no, no.
Mike Ryan
We're not gonna offer him for kd. That's Going too far.
Chris
There's no way that was true.
Mike Ryan
Then it was later clarified after certain people that cover the. The Miami Heat heard back from the Heat, and in no way is this propaganda. They cleared it up. Mm, not bad. I know it's good journalism, but the. The franchise maintained that. That narrative that they didn't want to part with, Haywood Highsmith, that's. That's a load of baloney.
Chris
Like, I got a lot of that over the weekend. This was the guy that the Heat wouldn't have parted with for Kevin Durant. Like, come on, you have to understand.
Mike Ryan
That was initially reported. So I understand why people are of that impression. I ran with it for a while, but then I saw Barry's report that that wasn't the case. And, you know, why would you run with that?
Billy
You guys. You guys know why? Because the apology is never as loud as the insult.
Mike Ryan
Because Shams Shrania is, you know, got a good reputation, but, you know, he's.
Chris
Not always 100% accurate.
Billy
That's what I've been trying to explain to people, man. None of these guys are infallible. Sometimes reports are wrong. It's not that the guy is an idiot or he made up a story or whatever. It's sometimes his sources are wrong.
Mike Ryan
Well, let's. Let's not get into that. We have the strongest indicator yet that that was a false narrative and that Heywood Highsmith was just traded for nothing.
Chris
Literally nothing.
Billy
He wasn't traded for not a heavily.
Chris
Protected second round pick.
Billy
That's not what they traded him for. That's what they got for him. That's not what they traded him for.
Chris
They trained for True Smith. Is that what you want to say?
Zagak
Traded him to get under the cap so they don't have to spend more money, which is not what I want to hear from my team ownership. Spend money. I don't give a shit about your money. Go sell a couple extra cruises, Mickey. I don't care how much it costs. You put a winning product on this court already.
Billy
It's not about the money. That's actually more about trying to put a winning product on the floor because.
Mike Ryan
The luxury tax inhibits a team's ability to make moves.
Billy
Do shit. Exactly. So by going under the apron now, they're able to be active between now and the trade deadline.
Zagak
Kevin Durant, when he's 55 years old, I give a shit about their future plans.
Mike Ryan
I want to back up Billy here. So much has made Heat fans love celebrating the team getting under the apron. They love it. I'M not really sure how much it's benefited us in terms of their ability to make moves that help the team. It's just something that Heat fans love to celebrate. And the actual situation might just be the owner wants to save some money.
Zagak
A couple more drink packages.
Billy
Do you like ice cream?
Mike Ryan
Occasionally. Depends on how many milligrams.
Billy
Let's just assume in a world where your gut cooperates, you like ice cream.
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Billy
Right. Is it possible you got that back up? I feel like ice cream today and you leave your house, but things happen and you never actually get any ice cream. That could happen. Right.
Mike Ryan
Mm.
Billy
So in that case, you didn't get any ice cream, but you gave yourself a chance to get ice cream as opposed to sitting your ass at home.
Mike Ryan
It's a freedom loving American. I love that I can get ice cream whenever I want.
Billy
Exactly.
Zagak
I'd rather buy ice cream and have it melt than the idea of I could get ice cream if I wanted to get ice cream.
Chris
The equivalent here, I mean, would be if you always, every year, have the opportunity to get ice cream, but you never actually get it.
Billy
It's a long line, but you save.
Zagak
Ice cream costs, so we should feel good about it.
Billy
There's a long line for the ice cream.
Roy
Terrorists on ice cream.
Billy
They're terrorists on the ice cream. The NBA tax laws have ceased to be about money and they're all about, can I do stuff now.
Chris
It's about roster building.
Billy
It's about roster building. And it's like you can pay the tax, but basically the way the tax rules work, they're letting you know, you better love this team now. Because if you're not in love with this team, you're locked in, you're locked into this and you have no hope of adjusting or very little hope versus being a team with the flexibility again. Yes. That doesn't guarantee that you'll get something done, but it allows you at least to be a player in that, in that regard.
Chris
But I understand the Heat fans frustration with, again, moving on from a player a couple days ago and Heywood Highsmith, who was a, who was a starting caliber player for you. And it's, it's to make sure you have the flexibility. And the counter to that from Heat fans would be. That seems to be their MO every year, is we want flexibility. All right, well, when are we going to, when are we going to push the chips in the middle of the table? So with that flexibility, I'm going to.
Billy
Give you a great example of the last time they didn't Opt for the flexibility. Can I interest you in Hassan Whiteside for $90 million? Can I interest you in Deion Waiters and James? That was the last time they were like, but these guys are good for us and oh, we gotta pay them. Forget about flexibility. Forget about trying to be flexible. That's what happened. The idea is that, look, I like Haywood Highsmith. You're right. Good starting, caliber player. The reality is, Mike started the segment with what question, do Haywood Highsmith grow on trees for many franchises? No, for, for the Miami Heat? Absolutely they do.
Mike Ryan
Here's where I get a little bit bothered. That's on the organization. Don't trust us with the flexibility because we're just going to do the Deion Waiters, Hassan Whiteside thing. Like, that's a cautionary tale. But by the way, we can't be trusted with this flexibility.
Billy
I thought about trusted with it. The idea is that this is a good player but eminently replaceable.
Mike Ryan
Super.
Billy
So I can continue this game of go get the next Haywood Highsmith and get him cheap and keep this flexibility for the opportunity to go out and build again.
Chris
I don't think maybe I'm not portraying my thoughts here properly. I'm not upset with them moving on from Heywood Highsmith because like you said, stop giving the multi year deals to guys who you could find more than. Yeah, I get that. The problem is, it's like, okay, all I hear every year is flexibility, flexibility, flexibility. When are we going to do something?
Billy
But that's, that's my point is like you're behaving as though they are not trying.
Chris
Oh, no, no, I get that.
Billy
Like, like. But, but the reality is it's not unilateral. I don't just get to dictate, hey, man, you want to play for us now, right? There's, there's other teams involved. There are other people, agents and players. And you, you do what you can. Tough. Figure it out. That's what they.
Zagak
No, figure it out. Figure it out. Oh, we got Hayward Heitzman. Look, we developed him. Great. Now he's gone. Oh, Duncan Robinson. We developed him, now he's gone.
Chris
I guess.
Mike Ryan
Oh, Max Shoes.
Zagak
We developed him, now he's gone.
Chris
The counter, that would be Boston seems to make big moves every year. Milwaukee seems to make big moves every year.
Billy
How is that working out for them?
Mike Ryan
Hey, they went, they're trying. And it got undone by, you know, what was going on in Damian Lillard's personal life and injury. But they were going for it. And you're sitting back and watching a team like Indiana make the finals when they went for it with Pascal Siakam, like to get the Whales. Let's. Let's try to improve on a roster that made it to a NBA Finals twice in three years. I understand that the narrative.
Billy
Indiana is a better example than Knicks too.
Mike Ryan
They made aggressive move, but like, to.
Billy
Me, like Cleveland, but like, some of these moves are silly aggressive. They're moved just to say that we did a move. Yes, but Mikhail Bridges for 7 million first round picks. That's not good. That's not good.
Mike Ryan
Scare money don't make money.
Zagak
Listen, I would rather the Heat win a championship and the result is Mickey Arison goes bankrupt than Mickey Arison keeps money and we keep not winning a championship.
Mike Ryan
Precisely. Zagak. I understand we established that there was this false narrative around Heywood Highsmith being going too far to include into the Kevin Durant deal. But for whatever reason, and I do think that Heat fans do deserve this reputation nationally is because there's a lot of people that get excited about Heywood Highsmith. Right. Even though he's the same age as Bam on a bio, we kind of know what he is. But do you agree with Draymond Green when he took the threads and said y', all? And then parenthetically, Internet experts wanted Jimmy to come off the bench behind dude, and five months later that he traded him for a bag of chips? That's wild. I don't think it was. I don't think we went that far.
Billy
Who wanted that?
Mike Ryan
I don't know.
Billy
Goes back to what we talked about earlier where it's like with the Dina and Gabriel thing about. What are you talking about?
Tony
This feels like something coming from Jimmy though, right? He was teammates with Jimmy. But I'm just like, Draymond is not following this drama this closely.
Chris
It's like Draymond doesn't add the part with. Yeah, we wanted him to come off the bench because, you know, he wasn't trying anymore. But that part, no, no, no. It's just Haywood Heisman's better. That's why they thought Haywood Heismeth was a better player. So that's why they were starting over Jimmy. Not because Jimmy was sabotaging the team. Shut up.
Billy
Shut up.
Zagak
What are they waiting to do? Because, like, Norman Powell was the move, which isn't a nothing move. Like, that's a good move. But, like, what are loading up? What's the next move? What are they saving money for?
Mike Ryan
Did you see the detail with Norm Powell? He negotiated with Haywood Highsmith for his jersey number.
Chris
Yeah, that's hard times.
Zagak
How much you give him?
Mike Ryan
I don't know what he got him, but he gave him something.
Chris
Whatever he gave him, no refunds.
Mike Ryan
No refunds on that deal.
Chris
Yeah, that's no refunds.
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Dan LeBatard
Don LeBatard all these high paid analysts, I don't want to mention names. Tnt, espn, you know. Oh yeah, they are dead. They cannot. They're not going to make it. You know, even if they win in. If they lose in Miami, I need.
Billy
To calm you down.
Dan LeBatard
That's right. If they lose in Miami, they don't get a chance in Boston or they are going to have their ass. You know what? In Boston, you know, they were wrong. They were. Are they going to lose their job? No. Are they going to get a cutting page? No. What are they going to do?
Chris
Keep predicting.
Dan LeBatard
What is the obvious. They're going to say, oh, the Nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the attitude. And you know what? The Heat are going to win at all. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Billy
Speaking of narratives that were out there, there's a narrative, Mike, that I'm looking at you right now and I'm not happy with you at all. A narrative that Boardwalk Empire sucks after season two.
Chris
I'm watching it take. I'm into season three now, man.
Billy
It's a horrible take.
Mike Ryan
I. I did some digging on this because there were some people that felt as strongly as you did. I tried to keep going with it. I didn't. I like the character in question too much. I could not go on. I thought it was a mistake. And then apparently the actor that I'm referring to here, if you didn't watch.
Chris
I looked up some of the stuff with him too. Since you told me this last week.
Mike Ryan
It seems as though the producers of Boardwalk Empire had their reasons to kill off this character so they didn't have to deal with the actor. And much like Heywood Highsmith, the actor's been around and available to do other stuff and it doesn't seem like other people were in on this actor.
Roy
Yeah.
Billy
Like you're aight not I gotta stop my life to keep you want on this show. And by the way, you. You dipped out. You were you around for Jip Rossetti?
Mike Ryan
He wasn't.
Chris
Which is a great scene watching.
Billy
Right. You gotta go on Everybody Got a Gun. Oh, man.
Zagak
What amazing.
Billy
We go. He stopped at the diner and it says he looks at the menu. Spaghetti with red sauce. What's that? Boardwalk Empire. Great show.
Chris
I don't understand like you. You stopped watching during the season when seemingly every episode Gretchen Mall is naked. Why would you stop watching that?
Mike Ryan
I didn't dislike the point for that. I wasn't like, this girl's too naked.
Billy
Mr. Thompson.
Mike Ryan
That wasn't.
Chris
What a comeback, by the way, from Gretchen Mall. She goes from Sun Rounders with the most dislikable character you've ever seen on movies.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Chris
And all of a sudden I love every episode she's in in this Boardwalk Empire.
Mike Ryan
Hated her in In Round.
Chris
Horrible character.
Mike Ryan
I've got some bad takes. I'm capable of them. I don't like the Wire.
Billy
What?
Mike Ryan
I tried to give season one of the Wire a chance. I saw the whole thing, and everyone says, like it. You know, it's a slow build. I didn't like that. That type of technology was antiquated back when it was made.
Billy
That was the point. That was how they got around like wiretaps.
Mike Ryan
I couldn't do it.
Billy
The whole point is that they were using an outdated technology.
Mike Ryan
So hyped. I just couldn't. At a certain point, I'm like, I'm just gonna live my life understanding that. I gave this a shot, and it's not for me. Not unlike Bob Dylan, not unlike Bruce Springsteen. I tried it. It's just not for me. But I understand why people like it. Just not for me. I'm not making you feel bad if you like it.
Billy
I really great television, man.
Mike Ryan
And Boardwalk Empire is the same way. I just like this one character too much.
Chris
My name was on the street. My name's. My name what?
Billy
My corners.
Mike Ryan
On the other side of the coin, like, history has decided that True Detective season two is bad. And I like True Detective.
Chris
I like true detective season two.
Billy
I like season two.
Chris
I like it, too.
Billy
I think season two struggles from the same thing Godfather 3 struggles from. I went back and I was on a couple weeks ago, I watched Godfather 3 again. It's a good movie.
Chris
That movie sucks.
Billy
No, no, it's a good movie. It's. Its biggest sin is it's not the Godfather one or two.
Chris
You think if you watch that as a standalone movie, like, it's a good movie?
Billy
Yes, Yes. I watched it as a standalone movie. I was like, this is a good movie.
Chris
What's her name? Sofia Coppola. Terrible actress.
Billy
I like her.
Mike Ryan
It was bad. You know what? I'm doing a rewatch of.
Billy
What's that?
Mike Ryan
The director's cut of Miami Vice with Jamie Foxx. Yeah, Jamie Foxx and Colin Farrell.
Billy
The.
Mike Ryan
The lore. There's that word again. Behind this movie was in the original adaptation of the. Well, not the original adaptation. The Michael Mann version. Jamie Foxx is not. Ricardo Tubbs is not in it as much as you would think. And it's because there was an article written on this. Jamie Foxx legit left the production for a little bit because of how crazy Michael Mann's style was. It was a very dangerous. They had a very scary situation on One of the locations, because Michael Mann's very authentic, wants to get in there. Director's cut I'm enjoying. Has one of the worst sex scenes I've ever seen. But it was, like, realistic, not Hollywood.
Roy
A specialist.
Billy
Do they still go to Cuba for some mojitos?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I know where we can get a good mojito, dude. Colin's fighting for his life with whatever accent that is. I'm at the scene now where they're trying to prove that they're not cops to the drug dealer that's looking for a drug runner.
Roy
But.
Mike Ryan
But they're pointing the finger back. How do we know you're not a cop? Are you wearing a wire? They pull guns on him. And then Crockett just takes out a hand grenade in his hands. Like, wow, what a move. Mutually assured destruction. He just casually leaves his home with a hand grenade at all times. Why didn't that come up in the frisk?
Billy
Speaking of Miami Vice, I learned yesterday that Golden Girls was a joke about Miami Vice at the upfronts. NBC was coming out and they had two comedians dressed as old ladies talking about, I thought the show was called Miami Nice. Wouldn't that be nice? Or whatever. And in the crowd was Brandon Tartakoff, who's the head of NBC. And he was like, yo, that actually would be a really good idea. Why don't we have a Miami Nice show with old ladies as opposed to, like, drug dealers and stuff? And that's how Golden Girl started.
Mike Ryan
You mentioned that. And I saw that one of John Stamos requests to play Riot Festival is to have a nude portrait of Bea Arthur, which is a callback, I think, to airheads when they got one of the list. Yeah, John Samos put out his full list of demands for him to play Riot Fest. And some of the requests are wild.
Billy
That's just to see if they're reading it.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's gonna show up. But he's requested for a full body pillow of John Samos, which make that available for public consumption depending on the whole tariff situation. Buku Bucks.
Billy
A body pillow like the. Like the pregnancy pillow.
Mike Ryan
A full body pillow of John Samos.
Billy
How did is it?
Mike Ryan
Also, the founder of Riot Fest has to get a John Samos tattoo.
Billy
That's in the right. That's one of the writers.
Mike Ryan
John Samos reserves a right to call it Riot fart whenever he wants.
Billy
This isn't real. Okay, this is.
Mike Ryan
This is real.
Jason
No, this is real or fake demands.
Billy
Yeah, let's play that game. Real or fake demands. No. Where is this. Where'd you see this?
Mike Ryan
I think this is Riot fest. Chicago. Riot Fest themselves, I think. Put this out with John Samos on a collab. I'm gonna find it. I'm like a dog with a bone on this one.
Billy
All right. We were having a big debate out. Well, not a debate, actually. We had a witch hunt out in the common area over here because it became apparent that Gino Fuentes has unacceptable socks.
Roy
How so?
Billy
Well, they need to.
Jason
They need to choose a side is what they need to do.
Billy
This is. This is where socks have gotten to Roy. You can wear, like, the no show or the ankle ones that are just below the arc of your shoe. So kind of like the socks that.
Tony
Chris has, which I think is what was popular when we were.
Billy
Yes.
Tony
Like, we grew up with, like, the.
Billy
The.
Tony
The night.
Billy
The.
Tony
The tight socks around the ankle where you don't really see him. You can kind of see them.
Billy
Kind of see them.
Jason
They're no show ankle socks is what they are.
Tony
Right.
Billy
I mean, there's one that's even lower than that, that looks weird.
Tony
I hate those.
Billy
I hate those two. But, like, that was the acceptable one, like, ten years ago. Whatever. They're acceptable now. They're not the norm, but they're not in.
Tony
Trust me, I know from all the Tony's, the Taylor.
Billy
You're fine.
Zagak
Kids these days.
Billy
You're fine, you're fine. Okay.
Tony
Thank you.
Billy
Crew socks fine as well.
Roy
Well, it depends on the pants that you're wearing. Right. Like, I'm wearing jeans so my socks are longer. As opposed to.
Tony
Are there any rules when you're wearing jeans?
Billy
No, no. I think you can't wear low socks when you're wearing jeans. For sure. But, like, you could wear the crew socks like you're wearing Roy. Even with shorts on. Right. What you cannot do is this halfway crook shit that Gino Fuentes.
Tony
We gotta see it. Let's go video. We need a shot of it.
Billy
You need a shot of Gino? Well, Jason has him on, too. They're both. They're both sock violators. Look at this. Show us some socks they've got. You see how that is? It's not an ankle sock. It's not a crew sock.
Jason
It's not even a quarter.
Billy
It's not a quarter. I don't know what it is. 1 8.
Mike Ryan
It's 1 8th.
Billy
What is that?
Mike Ryan
I don't like it.
Billy
I don't like it either. And I found out, like, it wasn't Gino, like I said. Jason, you can switch that camera.
Tony
Video Room problem.
Billy
It's a video room problem.
Tony
Probably Louis. Probably the same thing.
Roy
Wearing high tops. This wouldn't be a situation.
Jason
Jason, we don't want to see your shoe, buddy.
Tony
There you go.
Jason
Now you're good out.
Mike Ryan
There you go. Yeah, that's. Yeah.
Roy
Work hard. Work smart, not hard.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Jason
So both unbranded. Small, not long but not short.
Tony
And Lewis has the same thing. We don't have to look.
Billy
Yeah. But also, I'm going put Jason double trouble here. The color also.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, the white.
Roy
Oh, yeah.
Jason
It's like a gray.
Billy
It's like a white.
Mike Ryan
Or is that the color?
Billy
That's the color, man.
Mike Ryan
Those are jean socks. Those are jean socks.
Billy
Those are not socks.
Roy
Doing a wash with dark pants or something.
Mike Ryan
I have the full list of demands from John Stamos. I have confirmed this has been a collab from Riot Fest and John Stamos on official media channels. Riot Mike, the founder of Riot Fest, must get a John Stamos tattoo. A John Samos lookalike contest must be hosted by Riot Fest. A local Chicago pizza restaurant must create a Greek style pizza named and in honor of John Stamos. John Stamos. His green room must be stocked with these following items. A body pillow of John Stamos. A nude painting of Bea Arthur. Unlimited hummus served in a Gibson guitar case. The Riot Fest Twitter person must give John Stamos a foot rub. A special John Stamos Riot Fest T shirt must be designed and approved by John Stamos. No one is allowed to make eye contact with John Samos's hair. Whenever John Samos says Riot Fest, he is allowed to say riot Fart. John Samos mask must be printed out for the crowd to wear over the next few weeks and lead up to the festival. We at Riot Fest will make every effort to compete to complete this list of demands from Mr. John Samo so we can be in attendance.
Billy
I hate when people try to be cute, man.
Jason
You didn't like Riot Fart?
Billy
Stop being cute.
Mike Ryan
He's going to be there.
Billy
Just, Just. Yeah, you're going to be there. Oh, we funny, guys. If we put this. Dorks.
Mike Ryan
I think this all comes. The Beach Boys are playing and he's the occasional drum player for the.
Billy
Really?
Mike Ryan
Yes. Real life. You haven't known that about. No, he'll play. Didn't they do, like, a Morelands Super Saturday concert where John Samos was a drummer for the Beach?
Zagak
I think he might have just showed up. Yeah. And he performed with the Beach Boy. He, like, moonlights as a beach Boy. Member.
Mike Ryan
So I think the Beach Boys played a riot fest quite a few number of years ago, and John Samos wasn't drumming. And since then, the people that follow and the patronize riot fest, they've been demanding to see the Beach Boys with John Stamos.
Billy
Timeout. So he. These listed demands are for him to show up to be with the Beach Boys.
Mike Ryan
That's right.
Billy
I'm sorry, you don't. You don't get to make those demands.
Mike Ryan
He's making it all about himself.
Billy
You're not. You're not. This is the Beach Boys, man.
Tony
Oh, he's been with the. Are you confused?
Billy
I know I'm not confused.
Tony
They're welcome. They've welcomed him many times.
Billy
Sure. But you don't get to. You know, this is some star behavior shit, man.
Tony
Isn't this the crowd fans that are clamoring for this? This isn't Stamos demanding. I'm going to be with them. This is.
Mike Ryan
No, this is Samos making illicit demand.
Billy
Illicit demand.
Tony
He's wanted.
Billy
Hold on. Is like, Kevin loves uncle. Is he making those demands? No, he's not.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, well, other guys gone.
Jason
How many beach wars are there still?
Tony
Great question.
Billy
I don't know. Kevin loves Uncle's alive.
Roy
They just lost one like Kevin loves uncle.
Mike Ryan
They're just keeping the money going at this point. Sell some merch, have Samos there. Now Samos is probably like the guy.
Billy
He's the le. He's the attraction.
Mike Ryan
No, there was that other guy, the guy that wore, you know, those peaky blinders hats.
Billy
Peaky Blinders hats.
Tony
I believe there's two left.
Zagak
Yeah. Right now their Wikipedia says there's two members. Mike Love and Bruce Johnson.
Billy
There you go. That's Kevin Love's uncle.
Tony
Al Jardine's gone.
Roy
Okay, so Brian Wilson was the latest.
Billy
Ryan Wilson was on the pass.
Mike Ryan
It's a big deal. So now you're getting to the point where the Beach Boys kind of need John Stamos.
Billy
So this thing is this turn like the Temptations, where it's just a bunch of dudes that just show up and none of them were actually in the temptation.
Roy
Oh, the OJs.
Billy
The OJs? Yeah. Like, you just have a bunch of people like, yeah, we're the OJs. Like, no, you're not. You're just some dude.
Mike Ryan
But this partnership among the Beach Boys and Samos is 30 years old.
Billy
I get it.
Mike Ryan
Remember, they partnered up on forever.
Billy
Sure. Does he get to dictate this way? Let me put it this way.
Mike Ryan
Samos is making the demands If Mike.
Billy
Love ain't getting that, you don't get it. How about that? If Mike Love don't get it, you don't get it. You gotta check with Mike Love. Hey, Mike, we getting the hummus? My. Nah, I'm good on hummus. Guess what? No hummus for stamen. Stamos hummus. Right? That's the way it should work. It's an honor for them to allow you to be part of this. You can't walk like. What. What's my name from Foo Fighters?
Mike Ryan
Dave Grohl.
Billy
Dave Grohl, yeah. Just waltz in. Didn't he, like, doesn't he play for. For Bruce Springsteen? I'm getting confused.
Roy
It's Max Weinberg.
Jason
That's the guy from the Sopranos.
Billy
Oh, yeah, the guy from Soprano. You don't get to just walk in and demand.
Jason
Stevie Van Zant.
Billy
Stevie Van Zant. There you go.
Tony
That's the guy from the Sopranos. Sid Rosenberg show first for me.
Mike Ryan
The guy from the Sid Rosenberg show.
Billy
You see what I'm saying? Like, you don't get to do that. You don't get. This isn't your thing. I don't care how famous you are. You are joining something that is already famous. It's already doing its famous thing, and we happy to have you here. It'd be cool. This is probably your life dream. Oh, hold on. Think about it, white guy.
Jason
John Mayer.
Billy
John Mayer. That's a Grateful Death, bro. That ain't John Mayer. You. You want to do that? You do a John Mayer show. You do a John Mayer concert, and then you can ask for that stuff. You want Stamos? You want to do that? You do it. You do a John Samos concert.
Tony
John Mayer has more. He's like lead singing for them, right?
Billy
Absolutely.
Tony
He has more leverage.
Billy
More leverage. But guess what? Respects it. He respects the. The playground. And so. Look, this isn't about me, guys. It's not about me. John Stamos. Shame on you. Shame on you. And I know you're doing it just to be cute, like body pillow.
Mike Ryan
It's working. Riot fart is funny. And I like the arrowheads. It's a good callback.
Tony
Great, great film.
Mike Ryan
The Lone Rangers. How are you? The Lone Rangers? There's three of you.
Dan LeBatard
Don LeBatard.
Roy
We're gonna win.
Mike Ryan
Stugats.
Roy
We're gonna win.
Mike Ryan
They're annoying.
Tony
What an old reference.
Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the.
Billy
Who'S B. Arthur.
Roy
Oh, wow. Old lady Bard.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Jason
Let me look it up.
Mike Ryan
You have a computer.
Billy
Yeah, but I mean, it's conversation. It's not conversation if he doesn't.
Jason
I don't want to look something up. And it shouldn't be the right thing.
Mike Ryan
To look up how we got here and be Arthur.
Billy
B, E. A is how you spell B. B, B.
Roy
Short for Beatrice.
Billy
You know her from Golden Girls. Yeah, the main one. Dorothy from Golden Girl.
Tony
The main one. Is that the tall one?
Billy
The tall one.
Tony
I was thinking the glasses, the little.
Jason
I've never seen the show, so I didn't have a reference point of who this was.
Roy
I still get it.
Billy
I've been. I've been. I've been re. Watching Golden Girls recently.
Zagak
Yeah.
Billy
Surprisingly holds up. Really?
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Tony
That's hard to believe.
Billy
Surprisingly holds up.
Jason
So what's the elevator pitch here? What, like two old ladies, four old.
Billy
Ladies living in a. Like, living together in Miami. They're retired, and that's it.
Jason
And hijinks.
Tony
There she is.
Jason
Tony Shenanigans.
Billy
Yeah, one of them. One of them dates a lot. Blanche, She's.
Roy
Well, not just dates.
Billy
She's. Yeah. Blanche is the. Is the Kim Cattrall of Kral's Samantha in Sex in the City.
Tony
Wait, everyone knows what you mean.
Zagak
Yep, yep.
Billy
Blanche is the. The.
Jason
So this is like old lady sex in the city.
Billy
Yes.
Jason
Okay.
Billy
Old lady sex in the city. But the city is Miami, and they.
Roy
Were the first to do it.
Zagak
But it's like a swamp, really. Like, when they show their house, it's like, wow, this is south.
Jason
So, like, pre. It's like pre Miami Springs.
Billy
They're like Boca, right? Or where are they?
Roy
No, it's Miami.
Billy
Miami proper. They just. Miami property.
Roy
Like Miami. Miami Shores or something.
Billy
Yeah, but. Yeah, you don't see. No.
Jason
So it's before Hispanics and before everything else.
Tony
Well, before Hispanics, I think Hispanics were around.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, they were.
Billy
I think.
Jason
Are any of the ladies Hispanic?
Mike Ryan
No.
Jason
Okay.
Mike Ryan
That's my question.
Roy
Two of them were Italian.
Billy
Yes. So. So be Arthur's cat, Dorothy, and her mom, Sophia. They're Italian. Rose, which is played by Betty White. She was from Minnesota. Blanche was from Texas or Tennessee.
Mike Ryan
Louisiana.
Billy
She's from somewhere in the South.
Mike Ryan
Trivia night.
Billy
Yeah, somewhere in the South. Louisiana. I think you're right. Blanche Devereaux. Yeah.
Zagak
Yeah.
Billy
Because her last name's Devereaux. She's Creole. Yeah.
Roy
So I actually watched the show.
Billy
That's why no Cubans. Did they have any Cubans? Maybe one of some of the men that came around.
Roy
Very progressive show.
Billy
Yeah, it was.
Mike Ryan
Was me watching Miami Vice remake. Still no Cubans.
Billy
Wait, there are no Cubans in Miami Vice.
Mike Ryan
Not in the crew. Like Justin Thoreau's in the crew.
Billy
Yeah, Everyone.
Mike Ryan
And see, this is systemic erasure.
Jason
Tell you three Americas.
Billy
Erasure. Erasure, yes.
Mike Ryan
Put a Chinese lady in it. The only time they. They actually go to Cuba for mojito. But there's no Cuban Z. This is the only time I get.
Billy
They go to Cuba. There are no Cubans there.
Tony
No.
Mike Ryan
That's the only time you get to see Cubans. You think that with all the time that passed since the 80s, they'd be like, michael, there are a lot of Cubans here. The most Cuban we get is that his name is Ricardo. The surname doesn't match it, but his name is Ricardo.
Zagak
There's a guy called El Tune. Yeah, that guy's got to be Cuban.
Mike Ryan
I think he's Colombian.
Zagak
Really?
Mike Ryan
The worst sex scene, but very realistic.
Roy
Again, best list.
Mike Ryan
It's just Jamie Foxx just digging his chin into his shoulder blade. And that's the entire. The camera doesn't move. I'm like, this is the most realistic one I saw.
Billy
Jamie Foxx is gonna be playing Tyson. I don't even know if this is real or not.
Mike Ryan
They've been trying to get that thing done forever. It's been 25 years.
Roy
It's too old to do it now.
Billy
Or maybe just the right age.
Mike Ryan
I was. I watched Spider man no Way Home last night.
Billy
Oh, yeah. I love that. Spider Man.
Mike Ryan
People popped in the movie theater when all the spider men from all the universes came.
Billy
Yeah. And all the villains from all the universes.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. And they kept making the joke that Elektra was made by falling into a vat of electric eels. But do you think Jamie Foxx negotiated for me to return to this franchise? We gotta make me handsome.
Billy
Oh, yeah, no. Cause he was.
Mike Ryan
Everybody else looks the same as they did, but Jamie Foxx is like, oh, the electricity here is stronger, so I look better. He's back to, like, painting on his hair. He doesn't have the comb over. He's not blue.
Billy
No. They fixed him up. He didn't look like he did in Amazing. Was it Amazing Spider Man?
Mike Ryan
It was very lazy exposition. He's like, ah, I like the power here. It's a little bit better. He has a glow up. He just didn't want to look ugly.
Billy
He has a literal glow up because he's glowing. See how that works?
Mike Ryan
Mm.
Billy
You want to talk about some. A weird sex scene? You guys see Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson?
Mike Ryan
I don't watch the big Three that was.
Billy
That was.
Tony
I just saw the clip of them celebrating, and it was intense.
Billy
It was passionate. It was passionate. I think we can throw it up on the screen right here.
Tony
It's just gonna be B roll, though, because there's a lot of curse words.
Billy
That's all right. But it's like, look at these. His face is pressed against his face. He's hyping him up.
Tony
And then they get face to face here.
Billy
He's hyping him up. And Beasley's kind of. Kind of holding it in now, his forehead to forehead. And now he's roaring and he's like, yeah. And they're all excited and they're forehead to forehead again, and they're rubbing foreheads, which is a weird feeling. And then they walk around and was.
Jason
This after a game win or something, or.
Tony
I don't know, is this a foul? Is this to reach the championship or is this winning the championship? I'm gonna look this up.
Mike Ryan
It's important details.
Zagak
The detail is, at the end of the day, even if it is to reach the championship, it's the Big Three championship.
Jason
Yeah, we like the Big Three.
Roy
It's too much.
Billy
I'm not gonna. I'm gonna like hoops. I'm just saying. Okay, guys.
Zagak
Afraid of pissing off Ice Cube. I'm not going to be a War of the World 7, whatever it's called.
Mike Ryan
No.
Billy
Have you guys seen War of the Worlds?
Zagak
No.
Billy
Village.
Zagak
I also haven't seen the Big Three.
Billy
Billy is right.
Zagak
Actually. Sack Quartzite at a Big Three game one time. Yeah, it was awesome.
Billy
See? And they came over.
Zagak
They were promoting. They're like, anyone want to go to the game? I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll go to the game.
Jason
So now you trash them a couple years later.
Zagak
No, I'm just saying. I mean, it was fine. We left early. We're going to be there all day. It's like eight basketball games in a row, and it's half court. Honestly, I thank you for. For bringing us and having us out and sitting on the court and all that stuff. But, like, it was third row, so it sucked because you can't see anything when the third row on the floor, you can't see anything because the first two rows ahead of you. I'd rather sit, like, you know, fourth row, kind of in the 100 levels, you know? Yeah.
Billy
You said you sat courtside.
Zagak
Yeah. Courtside or on court? What do you mean?
Billy
Good side and third row and courtside are not the same thing, my friend.
Zagak
What's courtside?
Mike Ryan
Courtside, touching wood.
Zagak
I was on wood. There's three rows of wood.
Billy
You got it. Courtside means when I. I could trip a referee. Exactly. I quote Shawn Carter. I'd be spiked out. I could trip a referee. That means if your legs are too far out, like Larry David, you might trip one of the combatants.
Zagak
Their floor is weird. At least it was. Then. There's a lot of wood. Real estate.
Tony
It's very red too.
Jason
It's very red cork.
Zagak
This is like first or second year of big three. It was new at the time.
Billy
Pre pandemic.
Mike Ryan
Are the courts smaller in big three?
Zagak
Yeah, it's half court.
Mike Ryan
Oh, so that's why there's so much wood.
Zagak
Yeah, yeah. That's why there's also so many rows of seats on the woods.
Tony
This was just to get to the championship game.
Mike Ryan
That reaction was it. Was it a game winner? Yeah, that's it. I mean, that's cool. You can do that on the playground.
Tony
The championship is this Sunday coming up.
Mike Ryan
If you hit a game winner, you can have that kind of behavior. It doesn't matter what the stakes are.
Billy
I think that's a little much.
Mike Ryan
No. LA fitness gym.
Billy
I've never been forehead to forehead with anyone.
Mike Ryan
You've never been as close as Michael Beasley and Lanceven, but they were NBA.
Zagak
Players that like played an actual conference championship games.
Mike Ryan
This is. I don't understand. The book on Michael Beasley was that he didn't care enough and then he displays it and we chastise him for it.
Zagak
You don't understand why not thinking that the big three championship game is equivalent to like NBA playoffs.
Mike Ryan
No, I get it. I don't watch this, but I get why he's happy.
Billy
What are we doing? Why are we. Why are we being dismissed?
Jason
I realized why Billy was sitting on the wood is because on the half court, he was sitting on the other.
Billy
Half of the court.
Zagak
I was actually like in a corner. So like it was the. There's the court here. No one cares about this. There's a court here and then there's the one side, the other side, and then the backside. And then I was like in the corner on one of the sides. It was hard to see.
Mike Ryan
I only got so much love for ball. I'll watch NBA playoffs and women's college basketball and occasionally men's college basketball. Unless my coach quits in the middle of the year and the team follows suit. Then I give up.
Zagak
Well, they got in trouble or someone got in trouble. That worked for them because it was like their social media person that runs their Twitter account. And she was tweeting about Caitlin Clark in the WNBA during the big three game. And they ended up firing her because they're like, they. We view them as competition. You need to not be tweeting about our competition during our broadcast.
Billy
Rachel Demita. It was Rachel Demita. Yeah.
Tony
It seems this was a game winner, but only because every game is up to 50.
Billy
Yeah. So like it's not.
Tony
Yeah, they're all game winners.
Billy
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
But you're with me though. If you, if you hit a game winner, doesn't matter what level. It feels good.
Billy
Yeah.
Tony
I want my three.
Billy
I think my thing is this.
Mike Ryan
You can celebrate what? Whatever level.
Billy
Celebrate? Oh, yeah, like the, the, the. The intimate gazing into my eyes, forehead to forehead.
Mike Ryan
Not how I would get down on the basketball court, but I'm certainly celebrating a game winner. Or I'll do that thing where I don't even celebrate because it was supposed to happen.
Billy
It's supposed to happen.
Mike Ryan
I'll make a big show about how I'm not celebrating.
Billy
That's the name you like that guy.
Mike Ryan
Or I'll just hands on, hit off the court.
Billy
Like that's the Damian Lillard when he hit the shot against.
Mike Ryan
Oh, bye. Bye.
Billy
But then, but like everyone mobbed him and then he looks into the camera and it's just.
Mike Ryan
How ice cold is this guy?
Tony
They were up by 1:48 to 47. And he hit like a little floater layup to win it 50 to 47. Usually it's like they beat the Dallas power.
Zagak
That's another thing, though.
Tony
Like, here's the player first. Audience can't see it first.
Zagak
Yeah, they can't see your computer. The first couple seasons you had like the three headed monsters and the aliens and the killer threes and. And now it's cities. But they don't actually represent the city. It's just like a traveling show.
Mike Ryan
They're a traveling road show.
Zagak
Yeah. So what difference does it make if you assign a city name to people that like Lance Stevenson has zero connection to Miami?
Mike Ryan
Oh, no, he's got plenty.
Billy
He lives here.
Zagak
No one thinks of Lance Stevenson as someone from Miami.
Tony
He's not hailing Miami.
Zagak
He's representing Miami. And he was viewed in his NBA career as a villain to Miami.
Tony
Dallas power. Greg Monroe, Paul Millsap, Glenn Rice Jr. And John Millsap.
Roy
Old team John Millsap.
Tony
I think that Nancy Lieberman is their coach.
Mike Ryan
Based off of that. Is there an Indiana team in the big three? If they're. We don't know league standings, there's the.
Zagak
Boston Ball Hogs, Chicago Triplets, Dallas power, Detroit amps, DMV trilogy, Houston rig hands, LA right and Miami 305.
Mike Ryan
Well, if he's associated, I think he did somebody play in LA for a little bit, but he did.
Zagak
But MVPs their coach out of all.
Mike Ryan
Those cities, he's mostly associated with Miami because of his rivalry with the Heat.
Billy
And he lives here.
Mike Ryan
And he lives here.
Billy
Sorry, Billy.
Mike Ryan
Everybody lives here. That's the big three, Billy.
Billy
Billy's doing papers, checks and stuff. You ain't really Miami.
Mike Ryan
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Date: August 18, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This episode masterfully blends sharp sports analysis, Miami Heat roster moves, pop culture hot takes, and the crew’s comedic banter. Kicking off with bets and sports narratives, it veers into detailed NBA salary cap strategy, pokes fun at streaming culture’s best and worst, before spiraling (as usual) into delightfully trivial debates over socks, rock stars’ rider demands, and Miami’s cultural fabric. The episode’s highlight is a playful witch hunt for the worst socks in the studio—underscoring the show’s unique blend of sports talk and hilarious slice-of-life commentary.
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25:24-31:34
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The episode features the show’s classic blend of sharp-witted Miami sports analysis, charmingly pedantic pop culture references, and irreverent, goofy debates about everyday minutiae. The crew’s banter is fast-paced, sarcastic, and peppered with both inside jokes for Miami locals and accessible humor for a wider audience.
Summary by topic, with emphasis on the episode’s unique comedic commentary and tight integration of sports, local color, and pop-culture irreverence.