Hour 2: Greg Almost Sleeps (feat. Amin Elhassan)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Greg Almost Sleeps (feat. Amin Elhassan)
Date: December 15, 2025
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Guests: Amin Elhassan

Episode Overview

This hour brings trademark Dan Le Batard Show energy as Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cody, and Amin Elhassan dissect the latest sports headlines, mostly from the NFL and NBA, with irreverence and insight. The hosts jump from weekend football observations, Wemby-mania, and Cowboys debacles to casino stories, gift-giving controversies, and speculative NBA trade conversation. Amin nearly nods off but still drops sharp takes, while the group’s signature blend of comedy, sports analysis, and pop-culture references shines throughout.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Weekend NFL & NBA Observations

[01:55–09:16]

• Dan’s Voice “Presented by Vegas”: Dan struggles with a rough, Vegas-affected voice, joking, “Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Lite, and my voice is presented by Las Vegas.” (02:05)

• Victor Wembanyama’s Outing:

  • Dan gushes over Wembanyama’s dominant return after injury, suggesting for the first time, he could be the greatest ever:

    “Wemby might have been the first time I've actually considered he could be the greatest player of all time.” (02:48–03:00)

    • The best team in the league looked “terrified every time he was on the floor.”
  • Panel agrees Wemby instantly alters any game’s pace and outcome.

• Dallas Cowboys’ “Duxiana Mattress” Analogy:

  • Dan delivers a memorable Cowboys insult:

    “They got a bed. It's a beautiful bed with a Duxiana mattress … and then they proceeded to take a fantastic dump in the middle of it.” (03:43–03:46)

  • A classically Le Batard euphemism for the Cowboys failure.

• Fun with NFL Names:

  • Dan rattles off “Top 5 NFL player names that could be accountants,” led by “Jackson Smith-Njigba.” (04:45–05:14)
  • Greg Cody suggests Andrew Van Ginkel; Dan notes, “It’s my list.”

2. Pop Culture, Casino Tales & NBA Cup

[05:51–08:45]

• Natalie Imbruglia/Chiefs Joke:

  • Dan riffs on Mahomes’ injury set to Imbruglia’s “Torn”:

    “She's wide awake and knows that Mahomes ACL is torn.”
    (05:51)

• Michelle Beadle’s Gambling Luck:

  • Dan recounts losing his cash in 22 seconds at a Vegas slot machine, only for Michelle Beadle to win $6,000 (multiple times) on the same machine:

    “If I wasn't there, I would have said, I'm a liar. I saw it with my own eyes.” (08:45–09:10)

• Desmond Bane: NBA’s “Purveyor of Shenanigans”:

  • Dan celebrates Bane’s antics,

    “Needlessly escalating situations, then telling the ref, ‘I'm just trying to protect my guy.’ I love it.” (07:38–07:55)

3. Dylan Brooks vs. LeBron: The NBA’s Latest Drama

[09:21–12:06]

• On-Court Antics:
  • The crew analyzes the escalating feud:
    • Brooks’ antics are seen as not always calculated—sometimes he “blacks out” and isn’t fully self-aware.

    “Apparently, like, no, he really is like not present of mind ... He's just his own little world.” – Dan (11:10–11:22)

  • LeBron’s “veteran manipulation” gets praise:

    “Part of being a vet in this league is knowing when someone is running in the red ... and using that against them. And LeBron, I thought, did a great job of that last night.” – Dan (11:51–12:06)

4. Greg Cody Show Promo & Absurd Holiday Gifts

[12:06–14:22]

• Dave Barry’s Gift Guide:
  • Amin describes highlights like a “toilet with a mirror on it—for those who want accuracy while wiping.” (12:56)
  • Banter ensues:

    “Can you think of anything you'd rather see less?” – Mike Ryan (13:07)

  • Amin jokes about being a “terrible gift giver,” adopting the “no holidays or birthdays” philosophy to avoid gift anxiety:

    “I don’t like giving gifts … That part of my brain doesn’t exist ... it’s all a defense mechanism.” – Dan (14:10–14:18)

  • Panel pushes back on the merits of a toilet mirror as a real present.

5. Hypotheticals & NBA Trade Talk: Should the Spurs Go After Giannis?

[18:07–20:28]

• Amin’s Reasoning Against a Spurs-Giannis Deal:
  • “Why would you cash those pieces in that will be championship contention worthy in no time for a guy who's in his 30s ... it's not a knock on Giannis ... but we're baking this cake, why are we trying to jack it up ... and shortchange this process?”
    • Spurs’ promising core is reasoned to be more valuable than mortgaging for a star on a huge contract. (18:07–19:36)
  • Tony notes, “The best time to do it was during the NBA draft ... now you already know what you have.” (19:36–19:58)

6. AFC/NFL Playoff Picture: Jags, Bills, Chargers, and the Chiefs’ Fall

[21:37–43:44]

• Open AFC Discussion:

  • Amin and Greg debate top AFC contenders. Amin likes the Chargers (despite their flaws); Greg sees their O-line issues as fatal.
  • “Everyone’s flawed” is the consensus, and North Florida optimism abounds:

    “Trevor Lawrence has been playing great football ... why can't the Jags make a run?” – Tony (21:37–22:05)

  • The panel pokes fun at Amin’s drowsiness—hence the episode title “Greg Almost Sleeps.”

• Bills' Playoff Struggles & Josh Allen’s Burden:

  • Dan points to the Bills’ defensive issues and immense pressure on Josh Allen:

    “You will not win a playoff game against a good team allowing those rushing totals ... asking so much of Josh Allen as to be unreasonable.” (36:18–37:39)

  • Tony’s stat: “The rest of the NFL is 4 and 26 when they allow 185 rushing yards or more in a game.” (38:54)
  • Playoff matchups discussed: “Bills would face Jacksonville in the first round ... Josh Allen is a wizard ... but this will be their toughest route yet.” – Mike Ryan (38:15–39:34)

• Chiefs’ Dynasty Ends with a Whimper:

  • Shock at Chris Jones not knowing they’re eliminated:

    “That’s the whimpering end of a dynasty right there ... I didn’t have it all going like this where we were just sort of like, oh, is that over?” – Greg (41:42)

  • Panel processes the NFL’s “end of an era,” with Mahomes’ injury symbolizing the close of a dominant run:

    “Only one injury on that team that can happen like that to make it feel like that ... is this really over?” – Greg (43:06)

7. NFL Quarterback Injuries & Playoff Firsts

[44:39–44:51]

• The panel marvels that for the first time since 1998, the NFL postseason will not have Manning, Brady, or Mahomes:

  “This is the first time since 1998 we're gonna have a postseason in the NFL that won't have Manning, Brady, or Mahomes.” – Matthew (44:43–44:49)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Wemby might have been the first time I've actually considered he could be the greatest player of all time.” – Dan Le Batard (02:48)
• “They got a bed. It's a beautiful bed with a Duxiana mattress ... and then they proceeded to take a fantastic dump in the middle of it.” – Dan Le Batard (03:45)
• “If I wasn't there, I would have said, I’m a liar. I saw it with my own eyes.” – Dan, on Beadle’s slot machine jackpot (08:53)
• “Part of being a vet in this league is knowing when someone is running in the red and not under control and using that against them. And LeBron, I thought, did a great job of doing that last night.” – Dan Le Batard (11:51–12:06)
• “I’m a terrible gift giver ... I don’t believe in holidays or birthdays because I don’t like giving gifts ... it’s a defense mechanism.” – Dan (14:10–14:18)
• “Why are we trying to jack it [the Spurs] up to 800 degrees and shortchange this process?” – Amin Elhassan, on Giannis trade speculation (19:07–19:21)
• “That’s the whimpering end of a dynasty right there ... I didn’t have it all going like this ... is it over forever?” – Greg Cody, on Chiefs’ elimination (41:41–42:01)
• “This is the first time since 1998 we're gonna have a postseason in the NFL that won't have Manning, Brady, or Mahomes.” – Matthew (44:43–44:49)

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Timestamped Segment Highlights

• [02:48] – Wembanyama greatest ever conversation
• [03:45] – Cowboys “shitting the bed” anecdote
• [08:45] – Michelle Beadle’s $6,000 casino win
• [09:52–12:06] – Dylan Brooks vs. LeBron breakdown
• [12:27] – Dave Barry’s holiday gift guide (“toilet mirror”)
• [18:07–20:28] – Spurs-Giannis trade logic
• [21:37–22:48] – AFC playoff picture, Jags discussion, Amin’s drowsiness
• [36:18–39:34] – Bills’ rushing defense woes and playoff implications
• [41:42–43:06] – Chiefs’ elimination / end of an NFL dynasty

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Conclusion

This episode exemplifies the show’s signature mix of sports insight, rapid-fire banter, deep dives into headlines/drama, and the comedic quirks of its cast and guests. Sports fans curious about the NFL/NBA’s current landscape—particularly AFC chaos, the Bills’ perennial heartbreak, end of the Chiefs era, and NBA speculation—will find plenty of unique context and humor here.

Amin’s looming sleepiness, Beadle’s legendary slot luck, and Dan’s Vegas-worn voice all add that essential Le Batard touch.

Transcript

[Tony]

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[Tony]

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[Greg Cody]

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[Dan Levator]

This is the Dan Levator show with the ST Podcast.

[Greg Cody]

It is time for to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened. Better than my voice, I mean.

[Dan Le Batard]

Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Light. Hold on. Pause here. Hold on. Sorry, I can't hear the beeps. Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

You sound like you've had a rough weekend.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the first joke was going to be Weekend observations presented by Miller Light and my voice is presented by Vegas. But I didn't hear the beeps so we have to stop and then start again. Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Light and my voice is presented by Las Vegas. Dan, after missing three weeks of action during which his team performed just as well without him as they did with him, leading some to question whether his impact was overrated. He missed the entire first quarter of action, but checked into the second quarter and posted a plus 20 in seven minutes against the best team in the league. And just like that, make no mistake, Victor Wembanyama is back. Wemby might have been the first time I've actually considered he could be the greatest player of all time.

[Dan Levator]

Whoa.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Dan. The best team in the league looked terrified every time he was on the floor. I I It was so undeniable that he changed the entire complexion of that game just, just by checking in. I I I finally felt it. I was like, oh, yeah, this is it. In the words of comedian Jamel Johnson, that with the monks might be working. Dallas Cowboys. They got a bed. It's a beautiful bed with a Duxiana mattress. Zaz you know about that Duxiana mattress? Nah, it's a really expensive mattress.

[Greg Cody]

Whatever.

[Dan Le Batard]

800 thread count sheets.

[Amin Elhassan]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Goose down filled pillows. And then they proceeded to take a fantastic dump in the middle of it. In other words, the Cowboys shit the bed. Buffalo Bills spotted the Patriots 24 points, then remembered my immaculate Dentech grid punishment record. And they kept me undefeated. Teflon headline. Oldest man ever plays NFL game and manages not to die. Seriously, how does he do it? Philip Rivers took five years off and still ended up down one score. Marching down the field with two minutes ago. Incredible. The Cleveland Browns have a tight end named Harold Fannin. The name like that, he sounds like you could be an accountant. Top five NFL player names that could be accountants. Oli, Harold Fannin. Oli. Pat Fiermuth. Number five, Pete Gogalak. Number four, George Kittle. Number three, Barry Sanders. Number two, Greg Dulcich. And the number one NFL player name, that could also be an accountant name. Jackson Smith and Jigba.

[Greg Cody]

Whoa, wait a minute. What about Andrew Van Ginkel?

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a good one, but it's my list.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg Cody.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good seeing you.

[Amin Elhassan]

Thank you. I mean, how you doing?

[Dan Le Batard]

How about those Dolphins?

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm telling you what, they're alive longer than the Chiefs are. How about it?

[Dan Le Batard]

How about it indeed. Speaking of the Chiefs, Natalie Imbruglia, big Chiefs fan. She's all out of faith. This is how she feels. Mahomes is on the ground clutching at his knee. Delusion never changed into something real.

[Mike Ryan]

Nothing's fine. I'm torn.

[Dan Le Batard]

She's wide awake and knows that Mahomes ACL is torn. Actually too soon. NBA cup. I try to get to my seat in the middle of the row. The guys in the aisle seats got up real quick. I think they were terrified of the hog. I went in backside facing because the unspoken covenant was observed. I I mc so Dumb. I emceed the Steve Nash Foundation Soccer showdown in Phoenix this last weekend. Huge success. Lots of money raised for kids in underserved communities. Great turnout by Olympians, World cup winners and NBA hall of Famers. Plus, I managed to drop a North Korea joke. The crowd loved it. I don't think they're gonna ask me to emcee it next year. It's a shame. This week on CinePope, episode 293Rush Hour 3, a movie that considered casting Jean Claude Van Damme or Steven Seagal as the villain, but ended up casting Roman Polanski. You don't get that joke, I kindly direct you all to the legal history section of Roman Polanski's Wikipedia page. Cinephobe. Wherever you get podcasts. Speaking of villains, Desmond Bain quickly becoming one of my favorite purveyors of shenanigans in the league. Needlessly escalating situations, then telling the ref, I'm just trying to protect my guy. I love it. Anthony Black, still reeling from that Jalen Brunson crossover. Shout out to my guy Marlon at the aria. Big DLS fan. Michelle Beetle. I hate her.

[Amin Elhassan]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

What? Michelle Beetle acting an absolute fool at the spurs game, then flagging down Adam Silver, then having a 10 minute conversation with them in the middle of the game, then says, let's go gambling. Says to me, I know the loosest slots on the strip. I sit down, I tell her, what do I do? She said, put the money in there. I said, okay, now what? She says, tap this setting. I said, cool. And I said, now what? She said, hit that button. I hit it in 22 seconds. I blew through all my money. Michelle Bido says, you're doing it wrong. Puts in her money, chooses the same setting, presses the same button.

[Mike Ryan]

Get out of here.

[Dan Le Batard]

$6,000.

[Mike Ryan]

What? Get out of here.

[Dan Le Batard]

One push $6,000.

[Tony]

Wait.

[Dan Le Batard]

Proceeded to do this four or five more times.

[Greg Cody]

No, not $6,000, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

The guy had to come from the back, put in like a. A nuclear launch key code, punch in some stuff. And then someone with a briefcase showed up and just handed her stacks of money. If I wasn't there, I would have said, I'm a liar. I saw it with my own eyes.

[Greg Cody]

And you were done in 22 seconds.

[Dan Le Batard]

22 seconds.

[Amin Elhassan]

Did she give you any money?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hell, no.

[Mike Ryan]

Slots are stuck.

[Dan Le Batard]

Speaking of hell, Art Briles. Those are the weekend observations.

[Greg Cody]

Put it on the poll, please. Juju at LeBatard show is Desmond Bain, a needless purveyor of shenanigans, Also Put on the poll Dan's worst mistake confusing John Cena and Kurt Angle or calling the Hurricanes of Larry Coker worse than the Tigers of Coach oh, can you tell me please catch me up. And I want to get Amin's opinion on this, on the things with Dylan Brooks and LeBron James that continue to escalate.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, like, I mean, that was crazy last night, right? So the, the Suns and the Lakers played. Lakers blew a 20 point fourth quarter lead. And you know, Dylan Brooks and LeBron were going at it all throughout the game, but really got wild like in the fourth quarter. And there was one sequence where Dylan Brooks slapped a ball that hit LeBron like in the chest and LeBron went crazy, like, resulting in LeBron grabbing, grabbing back and forth. The referee, I mean, you touch, not.

[Rory]

Many people can get away with that.

[Mike Ryan]

But you touch a referee, you're getting thrown out. He's grabbing the referee and like yanking him back and forth. He did get a technical foul. And then with 10 seconds left in the game, Dylan Brooks hit a three to give the Suns the lead. LeBron totally fouled him. No call. And then when Dylan Brooks got up, he got up in LeBron's face because they had no timeouts left, like to DM up and like aggressively to DM up. And LeBron totally flopped and it was Dylan Brooks second tangle foul. So we got ejected and then LeBron was fouled. Very controversial. Final play right after that was on a three by Devin Booker. He had two or three free throws. Lakers win. Amin, did I leave anything out?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that's pretty exhaustive.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, like LeBron's behavior was kind of ridiculous.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I mean, Dylan Brooks is really annoying. Let's start there and then we can also throw in a Dylan Brooks by, by the words of his own teammates, he blacks out when he's out there sometimes. Like we all think it's his calculated Dennis Rodman esque masquerade to try and get under people's skin, but apparently like, no, he really is like not present of mine in terms of like knowing what's happening. He's just his own little world. And so, you know, you could say LeBron Flop, but also Dylan Brooks, you gotta know time and scoring situation and what you can and can't do. He didn't get called for a foul, he got called for a technical foul because he wasn't just ding him up, he was going above and beyond. And part of being a vet in this league is knowing when someone is running in the red and not under control and Using that against them. And LeBron, I thought, did a great job of doing that last night.

[Greg Cody]

Greg Cody. The Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody is featuring this week Dave Barry and his holiday gift giving guide. I don't know how good all of you are at giving gifts, but what is. And I want to ask Amin how good or bad he is at giving gifts. But what did you cover with Dave Berry in the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody?

[Amin Elhassan]

He's got an array of wonderful gifts. His gift guide is not in the Herald this year. For the first time ever. He's on substack now. So go follow him on substack or listen to my podcast to find out all these crazy gifts. One of them is a can full of fish balls. But my favorite was the toilet with a mirror on it. So if you've ever had a desire to watch yourself wipe.

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Amin Elhassan]

This is the gift for you to be helpful. Yes, it's supposed to be helpful.

[Rory]

A mirror you can put on your toilet so that when you're wiping, you.

[Amin Elhassan]

Can really make sure you can be accurate. For those of you who need help.

[Mike Ryan]

Wiping, can you think of anything you'd rather see less?

[Greg Cody]

It's a bad gift.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, it's a great gift.

[Greg Cody]

It's not a great gift.

[Mike Ryan]

If you've ever had the gift, you.

[Greg Cody]

Can'T give that to someone you care about. It is not a great gift. You can't give it to someone you care about.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, then give it as a joke. I mean, seriously, why is it not.

[Greg Cody]

Appearing in the Herald for the first time ever? This is an annual tradition that his column appears in the Miami Herald. This particular column is very popular.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, yeah. And it is on substack as well. And hopefully with my listeners and viewers.

[Greg Cody]

But why doesn't it appear in the Herald? You're promoting it. Fine. You're not answering my question or coming close to answering my question.

[Amin Elhassan]

I. I don't know. I don't want to get in Dave Barry's personal business with the Miami Herald. I can just. I can just tell you that this year it's. It. It's on something.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, what kind of gift giver are you?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm a terrible gift giver. That's why I. I adopted the whole philosophy of I don't believe in holiday and birthdays because I don't like giving gifts. I'm not. I just. That part of my brain doesn't exist. Not like the part of my brain where I don't want to give a gift. The part of my brain of knowing what is a good or a bad gift? And because that stresses me out, I tell people don't bother with my birthday and that way I don't have to bother with yours. Really. It's all a defense mechanism.

[Rory]

Do you get mad at somebody if they get you a birthday gift?

[Dan Le Batard]

Absolutely.

[Amin Elhassan]

Come on.

[Greg Cody]

Absolutely.

[Dan Le Batard]

I really, I really get upset. I get upset.

[Mike Ryan]

Tell you what, my birthday's next month. Feel free to get me something.

[Greg Cody]

Do you have any?

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what, I'll get you.

[Greg Cody]

Go ahead.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm sorry, Dan. No, yeah, no, I'll get you the mirror for the bat for the toilet so you can see when you're wiping.

[Amin Elhassan]

There you go. All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sounds like a good gift.

[Tony]

Hey guys, Tony here. Tomorrow at 8:30 Eastern it's the Emirates NBA cup championship game on Prime. This year's quest for the cup has delivered incredible moments and jaw dropping highlights and they've all been building towards this. The final two teams, the Emirates NBA cup championship live from Las Vegas, Tuesday night at 8:30 Eastern on Prime. And if you're not a Prime member, that's not a problem. Sign up today for a 30 day free trial to get started. The Emirates NBA cup championship game tomorrow at 8:30 Eastern only on Prime. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com amazonprime for details.

[Rory]

Folks, listen up. You know my holiday pattern by now. Every single year I tell myself, listen Chris, you're going to be thoughtful this year. You're going to get good gifts. You're not going to be lazy. You're not just going to get gift cards. And this year, guys, I have news. I pulled it off. No panic, no sad little card. You know what I gave? I gave an aura frame. Like why is it so hard to find a personal gift these days? It's for the people I'm closest to. My parents, my wife, my in laws, my kid. The most important people in my world. I have no idea what I'm supposed to get them as a gift. But one thing I know, people light up when they get photos. People love photos. So I loaded up my aura frame with all the moments I know they'll love. My daughter being adorable. Random selfies, group pictures where none of us are looking in the same direction. I kept adding them because aura lets you send unlimited photos and videos right from your phone anytime. And the best part, you can preload the thing before it even ships. So when it's open on Christmas morning, all the memories are already there. I'm telling you guys, this is a great gift. And folks, for a limited time save on the perfect gift by visiting auraframes.com to get 35 off or's best selling Carver mat frames named number one by Wirecutter by using promo code DLB. This deal is exclusive to listeners and frames sell out fast, so order yours now and get it in time for the holidays. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply.

[Dan Levator]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don LeBatard my algorithm on Instagram, it's Dance all boobs.

[Greg Cody]

Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a good algorithm.

[Greg Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. Do you have any Giannis information for us on the way out? What do you think is going to happen here?

[Dan Le Batard]

So I had a conversation with Kevin o' Connor on his podcast yesterday about Giannis, and particularly the San Antonio spurs, should the spurs make a move for Giannis. And I've been thinking about it a lot, Dan, and especially after the game on Saturday night, my feelings kind of like no for a couple reasons. Number one, very realistically looking at this team, and it's not just Wembanyama, Stefan Castle, it's Darren Fox, it's Dylan Harper. All of these guys with marginal improvements, like just a steady improvement that we would Expect of the guys that young, they're going to be competing for an NBA championship within the next two years. Right. So you start there, then you say, they're all on rookie scale contracts other than Fox. So it's like, you have cost certainty, you've got low cost, you got guys who are all around the same age group. Why would you cash those pieces in that will be championship contention worthy in. In no time for a guy who's in his 30s and makes a lot of money and is a very particular style of play. It's not a knock on Giannis. It's just, hey, we're cooking, we're baking this cake. 400 degrees at 40 minutes. Why are we trying to jack it up to 800 degrees and shortchange this process? So I'm, I think I kind of logically went through it and I'm not reporting it, but kind of feel like the spurs are not going to be getting Giannis ano just because the cost does not outweigh or it does outweigh the benefit that they're going to get from getting them.

[Tony]

I mean, it feels like the best time to do it was when they had the second pick in the draft and you have the mystery box of, ooh, we have the second pick. Package all those things and try to get Giannis in the offseason. Now you already know what you have in Dylan Harper. Vassell's been good. Obviously, Stefan Castle's the best guy in that draft. Like, you start looking around, the pieces are like, all right, we have these pieces. The best time would have done it would have been doing it during the NBA draft.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but you know what's funny, Tony, is usually when we say that, we mean like, hey, now that we actually used the pick and got the guy, it's not quite as sexy to the other team, you know, as far as acquiring, it's like, oh, it's. It's a mystery box is somehow more tantalizing than a good player that you draft.

[Greg Cody]

Let me pin you down, though. He says, hold on, hold on. Go ahead.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. Let me finish the point. But in this case, in this case, it's a case of however good the spurs thought they were going to be on draft night, now playing 25 games.

[Tony]

They'Re like, they're better.

[Dan Le Batard]

Holy. We're a lot better. We're a lot better. So back in off season, like, we can get Giannis. Oh, that'll put us in another echelon. But now it's like, we're kind of already in that echelon without him.

[Greg Cody]

He says he wants to play in the sun in a big market. You know any place that has one of those.

[Dan Le Batard]

Anaheim. The Anaheim Amigos.

[Greg Cody]

All right. Go ahead and get rid of him. There is no such thing as the Anaheim Amigos. A useless Greg contribution by him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. Greg. The Anaheim Amigos. You're here with me. And the San Diego Conquistadors. Where do they play? Greg?

[Amin Elhassan]

Damn right. Aba, baby.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Greg Cody]

Hello. See you later. Get out of here. Not what I wanted to hear from you. I wanted to ask you about Miami giving me the basketball team in Anaheim. Not helpful. Not useful. But you got to throw the show to Greg so he could help.

[Amin Elhassan]

Thank you, Amin. Just like we planned it.

[Dan Levator]

Vegas really got that man.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. That's a problem with Vegas and him. They shouldn't be together. It doesn't result in good things after the weekend. Tony. Your beloved Jags. They have since the week eight by. They're averaging 33 points a game and they've scored 25 in seven straight games. Jacoby Myers makes a pretty giant difference for them. And what's up, Trevor?

[Tony]

Changing. Also the changing. Also the offensive scheme from going from Brian Thomas Jr. To literally anybody else. Seems like it's working. And Trevor Lawrence has been playing great football. Liam Cohen, like that's why I was so high on the Jags when they made the move to go get him. Like he was a lot of the behind the scenes stuff. With Baker having such a good resurgence in his career. It's like if. If we can start moving that over a little bit north to 904. All of a sudden Trevor Lawrence could be somebody that in this division, in this conference. Like why. Why can't the Jags make a run?

[Greg Cody]

Cody, do you have any opinions here? Because the AFC feels like it's filled with flawed teams.

[Amin Elhassan]

It does. I would put the Chargers probably on top of the afc.

[Greg Cody]

I would not. Their offensive line problems are too big.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's true.

[Greg Cody]

Herbert can't be hit that much. You're just asking for him to get hurt there. He's getting hit more than any quarterback in the league. He's already playing a little physically broken.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's fair. I would probably put Buffalo and the Chargers, despite what you say on top of wide open.

[Tony]

The Jags beat the Chargers 35.

[Dan Le Batard]

6.

[Amin Elhassan]

And Denver. And Denver don't sleep on.

[Greg Cody]

You just slept on the wild. You just. You just woke from your slumber to remember that Denver was in there.

[Amin Elhassan]

Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Don't.

[Greg Cody]

You can't say don't sleep on. On Denver. While sleeping on Denver.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, no. I almost slept on them.

[Greg Cody]

No, you were.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, no, no. Here's what happened. Here's what happened. It was me. So let me express what happened because I was the one living it. I was drowsing.

[Rory]

No, you were laying in your bed. You were crisscross applesauce.

[Amin Elhassan]

Right? Yes. Which I can do.

[Matthew]

Again.

[Greg Cody]

People around here cannot be trusted to be correct about their self assessment. For example, I have now been told that we have located an assortment of ZAZ tweets for the last 13 years that say the same things about Jimmy Seffalo and the Dolphin broadcast that are being quoted in the article critical on awful announcing. It seems obvious to me. It seems obviously obvious to me that you are one of the sources on this awful announcing list of worst local NFL broadcasters they're putting up. Look at you. You're being very critical. Matthew. If. If you had Jimmy Ceffalo calling them the Redskins in the first quarter, you're a winner is what it is. You're just. You're coming after Jimmy Ceffalo from a number of different angles. God forbid Jimmy Seffalo can tell the difference between Jarvis Landry and Devonte Parker.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, it's an old one.

[Matthew]

Similar build.

[Tony]

And I thought he and Jay Cutler were going to be magic.

[Greg Cody]

This Jimmy Sevalo is so awful. In the car for just a few minutes and you have no idea what's happening.

[Mike Ryan]

It's true.

[Greg Cody]

You're. But you're HECKLING Jimmy Cephalo 10 years later.

[Tony]

Still true.

[Greg Cody]

In the car for one minute. Already have Ceffalo calling him Jakeem Hunt.

[Mike Ryan]

Was he even talking about there?

[Greg Cody]

Good start for Jimmy Cephalo. First drive of the game and he doesn't realize how the field flips after the 50. Think the 33 yard line is the 27.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a major error, Dan.

[Greg Cody]

First time I've listened to the Dolphins radio call in a long time. First two it was sacked, then it was intercepted. Ended up incomplete. Cephalo still got it.

[Mike Ryan]

That was this year. That's the play I was talking about this year.

[Greg Cody]

It seems obvious that you were the source on this. Well, what.

[Mike Ryan]

It's tough to deny at this point. Evidence is mounting.

[Greg Cody]

Another couple of football things that I wanted to get to. I just want to check in week to week as we do around here. Jerry Jones still a good gm?

[Matthew]

No.

[Greg Cody]

Michael Morses got hurt.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, you can't control that.

[Greg Cody]

But not this week. Okay.

[Matthew]

Not anymore.

[Greg Cody]

The other thing, and this probably shouldn't be Something that happens quietly. Given that TJ Watt is pretty good, the collapsed lung thing seems kind of horrifying.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, sure does. Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[Greg Cody]

So is this the Tyrod Taylor, the puncturing of the lung? No. What. What is the collapsed lung information that we can. As I was reading some of the details on this, I was like, man, it had to be scary for TJ Watt. These guys have such high pain thresholds that by the time they get to the hospital, it's something that they really don't want to be doing. I can't imagine what was happening with the pain and the breathing.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, like what. What happens when you get a collapsed lung? Can you still breathe? What happens?

[Tony]

Collapses.

[Matthew]

You have the other lung. It's dry needling, though. Different than the Tyrod Taylor situation, which it was dry needling. I think Dan does dry needling.

[Mike Ryan]

You know what that dry.

[Greg Cody]

It's acupuncture. Acupuncture is dry needling. But I'm not going to have. I'm not going to have needles on my lungs. That's just.

[Tony]

It's a long needle though, to go dry needling. Acupuncture is like kind of very surface area though, Right? So you're talking about a needle that's going to go in six inches to your. Into the back into your lung. Like that's kind of crazy.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, just take an aspirin, will you? You could not pay me, literally, you could not pay me to take a six inch needle.

[Greg Cody]

But you said earlier in the show you'd pay $11,000 not to see John Cena's last match.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Or any professional wrestling.

[Mike Ryan]

If you paid 11,000, wouldn't you rather just go?

[Amin Elhassan]

No. You know what I would do? I would go to that city, have a nice meal out, you know, you can now what?

[Greg Cody]

That's his Joe Zagaki. What is not the reaction, Greg, to inside jokes on the show that are like, what?

[Amin Elhassan]

I wanted more of the Zagaki, though. I needed, you know, I needed Ed Williamson, Cadillac Reference. I need something.

[Greg Cody]

Can you give me the news? Miami the Against Don.

[Matthew]

Louisville's gonna win this ball game.

[Greg Cody]

The against the spread. Music, please.

[Rory]

That's right. Against the spread is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings.

[Greg Cody]

That's right.

[Rory]

The crown is yours. Rory, what do you got?

[Dan Levator]

All right, we got Panthers at Lightning tonight. The Lightning are tied for the lead in the Atlantic Division with Detroit, but has lost five of the last seven while the Florida Panthers and won four. The last five. The underdogs. And the Lightning's last eight games have won six times and that's what the Panthers are and that's what I am going with tonight. The Panthers at one and a half goals against the spread. Go with them tonight.

[Rory]

Mike Ryan.

[Matthew]

I'm gonna take the te is long for it's minus six and a half.

[Greg Cody]

Give me that SP Things are going.

[Matthew]

Bad in Michigan so I don't even know who's going to play so I'm.

[Greg Cody]

Going take the long against the spread.

[Matthew]

Against the spread.

[Tony]

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[Matthew]

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[Tony]

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[Amin Elhassan]

Mayfield tearing up Tampa Bay 38 for.

[Greg Cody]

45 Stugats this is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. The big news from yesterday's football play has to be Bill's Patriots, because we will get tired of even droning excellence in football, even in America's most popular sport. Even when it comes to to the Rams dragging the Lions. Correct. The Rams are so consistently good at this point that that becomes the lesser story. Them dragging the Lions and being unstoppable offensively becomes a lesser story. The two Rams losses that we've got this year are a bit fluky, right? They were up a giant amount against the Eagles and end up coughing up the game. But the Rams have been a special kind of. Of excellent this year. But the football everyone's talking about is Bill's Patriots, correct?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. That was the game of the week, I think.

[Greg Cody]

And it's because I don't believe that either the Bills or the Patriots are better than Rams or Lions. I don't believe that they're better than Rams or Lions. Do you. Do. Do you guys both believe that. That. That game that we're talking about? Because Josh Allen is coming back? Because you've got sort of more future at quarterback than past, right? Because you're looking at the Lions and the Rams and you're thinking past. Even though Stafford probably should win the MVP award, you're looking at the top of the division. You're looking at in the Patriots, a team that historically has a storyline that makes people more interested in them. But yes or no, you guys agree with the assessment that both of the teams playing in Rams, Lions are better than both of the teams playing in Patriots Bills?

[Amin Elhassan]

I think the Rams are the best team of those four.

[Greg Cody]

Clearly you're not willing to concede to me that the Lions are losing, at least in part in that conference because they play in that conference and it's harder than what it is that the Bills and the Patriots are doing.

[Amin Elhassan]

I just don't think the Lions have the defense to be talked about.

[Greg Cody]

But the Bills and the Patriots have the record that they do is as good as it is, at least in part because they get to play all the Saints and all the Carolina and all the. And the. And the Bucks and all the Crud in that division like that. So it's the reason that the records are as good as they are. The Bills are an incredibly flawed team. They've got a great quarterback and everything else about them is either injured or wrong.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, their defense is really good.

[Greg Cody]

The Bills.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, no, the. The Rams, they're not a flawed team.

[Matthew]

I'll back you up here. I got. I got Detroit fourth in that group.

[Greg Cody]

Really?

[Amin Elhassan]

Fourth?

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

I think if they. I think if the Patriots and the Lions played 10 times, I think offensively they're second.

[Tony]

Like, I think offensively, I think the Ram. The Rams are first. I think the Lions are better than the Bills and I think the Lions are better than the.

[Matthew]

I don't think it's like this. This huge golf. I don't.

[Greg Cody]

And that's fine. I'm just making something conversational here around what it is that happened yesterday and how much we love storylines, right? Because you can be droning excellence, which the Patriots and the Rams have been this season and will follow. The storyline of oh, Josh Allen was down 21. Drake May would like his MVP trophy. Josh Allen's not quite ready to give it away. And at the end of the game, even Vrabel is running scared from Josh Allen, even though he wants Drake May to take Josh Allen's position at the top of the conference. The Bills going into New England and doing that feels like more of a statement than we've gotten from anyone in the league over the last month of no, not yet. Not. You're not ready for this yet. Your offensive line is injured and you're going to need to do more than score 30 to beat us.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, look, we could fast forward to the start of the playoffs. I would say the Bills going into the playoffs. The Bills are going to be the top story, right? Going into the NFL postseason. I mean, no Patrick Mahomes, maybe no Lamar Jackson, no Burrow. No Burrow. This has to be the year for the Bills. I think the Bills are the most interesting story AFC or NFC once playoffs begin.

[Greg Cody]

And you can see them losing at Houston like they just did because Houston's defense is good. You can see them losing against Denver because certain is back and that defense is even better. You can see them losing to the Chargers because the Chargers defense can do that at Kansas City and a bad.

[Tony]

Matchup against the Jags, all of a sudden the Jags come out and you're.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, oh, well, they beat the Bills. Like, yeah, everybody's flawed. Like Seattle, I think, is a really, really good team. But Sam Darnold leads the NFL in turnovers, including a bunch of.

[Greg Cody]

Can you do me a favor, Jeremy? That stat I gave earlier in the show where I said There have been six times this season that the Bills have given up 185 or more rushing yards. They're four and two in those games. Can you tell me how many bad teams that's against and how many good teams that's against? Because you're to be able to allow that kind of rushing total. And Ed Oliver will make a difference there if he's healthy. But you will not win a playoff game against a good team allowing those rushing totals. Even if you have Josh Allen, you're playing with too much fire there when they're 4 2. But they can't actually stop the run. And I thought the way the Patriots were going to beat them yesterday is the way that game started, which is just keep handing the ball off and keep Josh Allen off of the field. But the Bills end up scoring touchdowns on five straight drives in the second half out of nowhere because they couldn't continue to play the kind of football that just handed the ball off. I just don't think that you can have those kinds of weaknesses on defense and win three playoff games. Like, that's just that that's asking so much of Josh Allen as to be unreasonable. And he'll end up getting blamed for running into one of these bad defenses if. If a team like Houston slows him in Houston.

[Matthew]

But aren't they always asking so much of Josh Allen and then he's just going up against Patrick Mahomes in the end and it's too much to ask at that point because Patrick Mahomes can make the very same play, but he's.

[Greg Cody]

Done so with better defenses than this one and less injured defenses than this one. And he's lost in the playoffs. Like, it's not Patrick Mahomes this time, but going up those. If he's got to go through the equivalent, and I haven't looked at the brackets yet or how this, how this shakes out, but that the defenses you have to go through are Denver, Houston and the Chargers.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but they have to go through.

[Mike Ryan]

Josh Allen right now. They would face Jacksonville in the first round.

[Matthew]

Josh Allen is a wizard. He's this incredible card to pull. And it's not like I understand that the Bills are hurt and their defensive metrics aren't great, but I trust the personnel on the defensive side of the ball. Russo, Bosa, Milano, always making big plays. Are they supposed to get Ed Oliver?

[Tony]

Ed Oliver tore his bicep in October, so it's going to be tough unless they make a super late playoff run, maybe late January. But it's going to be tough.

[Matthew]

I trust the personnel on the defensive side of the ball to make a couple of plays to keep that in arm's lengths. So. So Josh Allen can just be Josh Allen.

[Tony]

So the bills are 4 and 2 in those games you mentioned, Dan. The rest of the NFL is 4 and 26 when they allow 185 rushing yards or more in a game. The six teams where this happened, the Ravens, the Saints, the Falcons, the Dolphins, the Buccaneers and the Patriots. The two losses are to Atlanta and Miami.

[Greg Cody]

All right, so you're going to have a hard time in the playoffs with. If you're allowing a bunch of rushing yards, you're not going to be facing any bad teams in the playoffs.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, but I do think Josh Allen is Capable of scoring against the great defense. Like, I don't see Houston holding him to 17 points.

[Greg Cody]

They did last time they played, but they held him to 19 the last time they played.

[Amin Elhassan]

Okay, but that's tough doing twice in a row.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, I get it, no Mahomes, maybe no Jackson this year in the playoffs, but they haven't made the super bowl any of those other years. And this will be the first year of all these years that they'll have to do it by winning three road playoff games. Like, this is literally going to be their toughest route to do it, and they've never been able to do it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, clearly the NFC is better. And draftkings latest super bowl odds have the Rams as the favorite and Seattle Seahawks second. And then Denver and Buffalo are tied for third in the odds. So I think it's fascinating. I know TV is already bemoaning the absence of the Kansas City Chiefs. I think it's going to be a fascinating playoff because for the first time in years, I think we're going into it saying any of six or seven teams can be in a Super bowl and it will be a refreshing matchup.

[Greg Cody]

The thing that happened though with the Chiefs yesterday, because I do still, I still maintain, even with the Bills and the Patriots playing that game, and even with the Rams and the Lions playing that game, the biggest story in the sport every week. And OKC is like this in basketball now. Okc, when they win, it doesn't matter when they lose. People notice Kansas City losing when it's been nine straight divisions, seven straight AFC championship games, and three straight Super Bowls. I was taken aback yesterday, even while just watching for them to become the big story by being eliminated when it got a whole lot worse than that. The moment that Mahomes went down that way and everyone started questioning, oh, will they be able to get back up, up off of a knee, given the salary cap condition, given the age of their coaches, given how much money they've got tied up in Chris Jones, who didn't even know until after the game that he had been eliminated.

[Mike Ryan]

These guys are so dialed in.

[Greg Cody]

No, that doesn't sound dialed in. That sounds the opposite of dialed in. To not know that you've been eliminated. Look at Chris. Listen to Chris Jones. They got a lot of money tied up in Chris Jones. Listen to Chris Jones after the game saying, I didn't know that we were eliminated.

[Matthew]

Still had a fighting chance.

[Greg Cody]

Are we out of the playoffs?

[Amin Elhassan]

We are.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. That's the whimpering end of a dynasty right there. Like that's that. I'm sorry, we're out. Go ahead and play that again. So that it's just. I didn't have it all going like this where we were just sort of like, oh, is that over? Is it all over? Is it over forever?

[Matthew]

Still have fighting chance.

[Greg Cody]

Are we out of the blood else?

[Amin Elhassan]

We are.

[Greg Cody]

Okay.

[Amin Elhassan]

Wow. Guy didn't follow current events.

[Mike Ryan]

I like the reporter who once he says, we saw a fight. He has, like, wrong.

[Tony]

He was looking out in the crowd. You can hear him like, we got. We still got to fight that. Someone's doing that somebody wrong. And somebody's like shaking their head and he's like, we got to fight. Jesse. No. Okay.

[Greg Cody]

You can hear the spot where he sees a reporter saying, no. Basic math has eliminated you guys. You didn't know that, did you? Are we out of the playoffs? We are.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

That's how I felt when you guys told me, um, had 17 first rounders and LSU had seven. Are we out of the playoffs?

[Matthew]

We are.

[Amin Elhassan]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, you guys, the squeaky chair. Did you guys. Let me hear it again.

[Matthew]

Clyde Edwards.

[Greg Cody]

H. We need some WD40 on that chair. Sounds like a rusty gate swinging open. Are we out of the playoffs?

[Amin Elhassan]

We are.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Greg Cody]

You guys think that the football watching fan had the same sort of reaction I did, which is I was tuning in to see the funeral. Oh, this is a little worse than I thought it was going to be. Because now is this going to go into the middle of next season? You can't have your. There's only one injury on that team that can happen like that to make it feel like that. And it was like, oh, is this really over? Am I overreacting to say the whole thing is over now? Because they're going to have to wait until the middle of next season and they're still going to be throwing Chad Henney out there as the backup.

[Tony]

Gardner Minshew.

[Greg Cody]

I'm saying it's going to be Chad Henny.

[Tony]

I'm going to look where Chad Henny.

[Amin Elhassan]

Is going to be.

[Greg Cody]

Chad. Chad Henny at the beginning of next. Next season.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's coming back like Rivers. Chad Denny.

[Matthew]

I don't think it's in the middle of next season. The guys come back from that ACL way quicker.

[Mike Ryan]

Nine to 12 months. What if he's the 12?

[Matthew]

Sometimes it can. We've seen guys get hurt there and be ready for the beginning of the season.

[Tony]

Chad's last season, 2022 for the Chiefs again.

[Greg Cody]

I know, but it's still going to be Chad Henny. I know everybody.

[Tony]

He had that one big first down, though. Dan, you remember he had that one.

[Greg Cody]

Drive, long drive and that.

[Tony]

And that's the point with Patrick Mahomes. We've seen him so many times. A leg go this way, a knee go that way. And then he just gets up and continues to play. And this time was like, oh, no, wait, this is, like, really bad.

[Matthew]

I've always wondered about how he'd age. He's a big guy and he leans on his athleticism. That is. That's gonna be diluted coming off of that knee injury. And I know it happened at the exact same time Brady's happened, but Brady was playing a different ballgame.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Ryan]

Stop comparing him to Brady.

[Tony]

Walk in his footsteps, Zaz.

[Matthew]

This is the first time since 1998 we're gonna have a postseason in the NFL that won't have Manning, Brady, or Mahomes.

[Tony]

I was three years old.

[Amin Elhassan]

Funny.