Hour 2: Greg and Zaslow's Inner Monologues

Summary

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Episode Overview

Title & Date:
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 2: Greg and Zaslow's Inner Monologues
April 14, 2026

Theme:
Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan, Stugotz, Greg Cody, Zaslow, and the gang deliver a lively, irreverent hour diving into the state of modern sports documentaries, aging athletes, catchphrase comedy, and current NBA and NHL storylines. This hour uniquely weaves together nostalgia, skepticism, and playful rivalry among the cast as they dissect cultural trends and poke fun at each other.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. The Evolving Landscape of Sports Documentaries

• [00:00–04:00]
  The episode opens with Dan anticipating an interview with Bonzi Wells about the anticipated "Jailblazers" documentary, lamenting the sanitized, access-driven trend in high-profile sports docuseries (e.g., the “Urban Meyer Gators” Untold ep).

  • Dan: “People really should be offended that the Urban Meyer Gator documentary...ended up being some glorified celebration of all positive things...Because in order to get Urban Meyer to sit down for that documentary, you had to tell the story exactly the way he wanted it told.” (00:36)
  • Discussion of the Untold series’ highs (“Lamar Odom,” “Shooting Guards”) and lows (“a couple of fart noises”).

• [02:00] Zaslow explains his interest in nostalgia-focused docs:

  • “I like those kind of documentaries where I remember my view of it when it was happening. And I like being able to see if…I'm remembering it properly.” (02:00)

• [02:23] Greg Cody expresses skepticism about docuseries’ originality and whether these so-called “untold” stories are truly revelatory:

  • “Is it just recycled stuff that’s already been reported and known or is it something...that’s going to really break news and tell us stuff we don’t know?” (02:23)

2. Playful Inner Monologue Skit and Catchphrase Countdown

• [04:04–08:35]
  The show pivots to meta-comedy with Greg’s “Back in My Day” segment and a playful bit where Zaslow imitates Greg’s inner monologue, riffing on his signature catchphrases.

  • Greg compares crafting a Back in My Day segment to “making brownies...when the toothpick comes out with just a little bit of soft crumb on it. Perfect...” (04:16)
  • Dan pokes fun: “You will end up feeling really good about the fact that Greg Cody is tickled by nothing more than his own narcissism…At this point in his life, that's something that feels better to him than sex.” (06:10)

• Catchphrase Power Ranking:
  The crew rapid-fires through Greg’s extensive list, showcasing nostalgic and often inexplicable catchphrases like “I’m fuller than Vern Fuller,” “Ball in the jack,” “Hey hey, we’re the monkeys, baby,” and more—elucidating just how much personal and show lore is embedded in the show’s humor.

• Meta-commentary on personal branding:
  Greg notes Zaslow’s hat sports his own catchphrase, playing up their friendly rivalry over signature lines.

  • “You're one saying is on your hat. I see. He was saying, I've got 50 of them and they fall off of me easily…You’ve got one.” (24:12–24:38)

3. Shingles, the NBA, and Athlete Well-Being

• [08:38–13:48]
  The show tackles Tyrese Haliburton’s public struggle with shingles:
  • Halliburton: “I’ve lost part of my eyebrow...My eye is always swollen from itching it. I have good days and bad days, but for the most part it’s bad days...” (10:30)
  • The crew discusses the unpredictability, pain, and stigma surrounding shingles, highlighting the vulnerability and humanity of pro athletes.

4. Animal Debate: Walrus Vs. Wildebeest

• [13:40–15:20]
  A typical Le Batard Show tangent, leading to lively debate and googling about which animal is larger, exemplifying the show’s offbeat humor and immersive banter.

5. The NBA Superstar Carousel and “GOAT” Debates

• [15:40–21:30]
  • Dan introduces rumors from Mark Stein: LeBron, Kawhi, and Giannis are likely to be on different teams next year.
    • “...growing anticipation from Mark Stein that Kawhi Leonard, LeBron James and Giannis are probably going to be on different teams next season.” (15:40)
  • Kendrick Perkins’ hot takes about LeBron’s legacy, prompting laughs and eyerolls.
    • “If LeBron wins this series against the Rockets, the goat conversation is over. That if he wins this series against the Houston Rockets, he’s better than Michael Jordan.” (16:42)
  • Inconsistency and absurdity in how legacy arguments are made in sports media are lampooned, with Dan clarifying his own stance wasn’t as hyperbolic.

6. NFL Draft Banter: Exacto vs. Zigacto

• [21:30–24:00]
  • Greg is asked about his annual accuracy in NFL draft predictions, using invented categories like “exacto” and “zagacto,” furthering the show’s trademark blend of stat-geekery and self-aware absurdity.

7. Aging Athletes: Science vs. “Lie-ability”

• [25:25–34:02]

  • The crew marvels at the likes of Ovechkin, LeBron, and Tom Brady performing at elite levels past age 40, oscillating between respect, suspicion, and jokes about pharmaceutical aids.

    • “How is it possible that these people are playing into their 40s successfully?...They’ve changed the pharmacy and the science of this…” (25:25)
    • The conversation touches on Serena Williams, Messi, Ronaldo, tennis greats, and others pushing the aging curve.
    • Stugotz pushes Dan: “All these athletes doing unprecedented things at older ages. Say it.” (26:17)
    • Dan deadpans: “Ovechkin is on steroid—Oh, yeah. No, wait, wait, wait...Let’s do this responsibly…But if he’s doing stuff in hockey that you haven’t seen…is it fair to question that an unprecedented athlete might be doing things that are unnatural?” (26:41–26:52)

  • “Pliability or Lie-ability?” Poll: Dan proposes another classic listener poll about whether 40-something athletes’ success is science...or something “shadier.” (34:02)

8. Hockey/Rangers Farewell & Jonathan Quick Appreciation

• [37:01–38:00]
  • The Rangers’ post-playoff handshake line with veteran Jonathan Quick sparks discussion of appreciation moments for retiring/aging stars, and why such moments can resonate even in highly competitive contexts.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan on sanitized documentaries:

  “Should be offended that the Urban Meyer Gator documentary...was a glorified celebration...with no mention of any of the terrible stuff...because Urban Meyer clearly sold his soul…” (00:36)

• Greg Cody on nostalgia driven docs:

  “That's my wheelhouse right there. So I'm all over Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova big time. I'll be lining up to see it.” (03:42)

• Greg’s comedic wisdom:

  “It's like making brownies. You gotta have that toothpick ready. When the toothpick comes out clean, you’ve over baked it. When the toothpick comes out wet, it needs more time. When the toothpick comes out with just a little bit of soft crumb on it—perfect. Same with the back of my day.” (04:16)

• Dan on Greg’s self-amusement:

  “Greg Cody is tickled by nothing more than his own narcissism. So when you're sitting there celebrating him by uttering his catchphrases, I'd argue that at this point in his life, that's something that feels better to him than sex.” (06:10)

• Halliburton’s candor:

  “I’ve lost part of my eyebrow...My eye is always swollen from itching it. I have good days and bad days, but for the most part it's bad days...I've been taking, you know, unbelievable amounts of medication to try to get rid of it. It hasn't worked...” (10:30)

• Dan, challenging sports legacies:

  “It doesn't make sense that LeBron James is the oldest player in the league and that body isn’t broken. It’s got a ton of miles on it. Like…it’s not a normal human body.” (29:17)

• Greg Cody, the philosopher:

  “Back in the day, you just smoke cigarettes in the locker room.” (33:29)

• Dan, re athlete longevity:

  “Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show: more athletes in their 40s—pliability or lie-ability? Because I’m just asking the question.” (34:02)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–04:00 – Documentary industry/Untold series critique
• 04:16–08:35 – "Back in My Day," catchphrases & comedic rivalry
• 08:38–13:48 – Tyrese Haliburton’s shingles, pain, public discussion
• 13:40–15:20 – Walrus vs. wildebeest size debate
• 15:40–21:30 – NBA rumors, LeBron/GOAT debate, legacy media critique
• 21:30–24:00 – NFL Draft prediction banter (“exacto” vs. “zagacto”)
• 25:25–34:02 – Aging athletes, steroids/all-time greats, “pliability or lie-ability”
• 37:01–38:00 – Hockey respect/retirement rituals (Jonathan Quick)

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Tone and Language

The tone is fast, playful, layered with inside jokes, gentle ribbing, and satiric skepticism. The hosts mix genuine sports insight with a willingness to break format, go off-topic, and poke fun at each other. Panelists frequently slip into self-deprecation, and the show is punctuated by quick shifts from earnest debate to absurdist banter.

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This summary covers the essential topics and comedic highlights, providing a roadmap to the episode’s sports commentary, media critique, and cast chemistry. Perfect for those who missed the live broadcast—or who simply want to relive the most memorable monologues, catchphrases, and existential sports questions.

Transcript

[A]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast. Bonzi Wells is going to join us in a little bit here to talk about that Jailblazers documentary that's about to drop on Netflix either any day now or today. I'm not even sure I've got to look that up. I will look that up before he comes on. But that is a documentary that a lot of people. Thank you. That. That is a documentary that a lot of people have been trying to make, and we've been talking around here. It's been really interesting to watch what's happened to the documentary business as just a handful of entities are in the game now to make documentaries. And how many of them have been very quickly sanitized by. If you give us access, we'll tell your story the way that you want it told. Like, people really should be offended. Should be offended that the Urban Meyer Gator documentary of the Tim Tebow team ended up being some glorified celebration of all positive things with no mention of any of the terrible stuff that was not covered in any meaningful way. Because in order to get Urban Meyer to sit down for that documentary, you had to tell the story exactly the way he wanted it told. I've got questions for Bonzi Wells about that jailblazer story. How interested, Zaslow, are you in this? The untold series has been very up and down. The Lamar Odom thing they did was good. The shooting guards thing that they did on Gilbert Arenas was good, but they've had a couple of fart noises because they've traded access for a less good story. And that Gator documentary was one of them. It was an untold part of the story because no one was telling just that part of all positivity when they've got a murderer in their huddle and the roster was getting more arrested than any in the history of sports because Urban Meyer clearly sold his soul in order to have a football team that was more violent than all the others.

[B]

I'm into this documentary because it's something that I experienced. Like, I remember the team. I remember watching the games. I think I remember how the city felt about them. I remember the way they were covered. And these are players who I watched for many years. So I like those kind of documentaries where I remember my view of it when it was happening. And I like being able to see if, you know, I'm remembering it properly.

[C]

Is it going to follow through on its claim? Untold, like is the doc. That's my hesitation with any documentary. Is. Is it Is it just recycled stuff that's pretty much been reported and known or is it. Is it something that's trailblazing in a way, no pun intended. That's going to really break news and tell us stuff we don't know.

[A]

We'll find out together, I suppose. But I'm going to. As. As we're a company that makes documentaries, our next one is about Chris Everett and Martina Navratilova. I'm very excited about that one.

[C]

Me too.

[A]

I think it'll be really good by the time that it is done. But to watch the Untold series from beginning to end and I. Hollywood changed. I recommend that all of you guys do that is to see and you can decide for yourself on this whether I'd argue that Untold hits more than it misses. But you have seen the dilution in the product as Hollywood has changed.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Building a plane in the sky. Pandemic infrastructure.

[C]

Can't dispute anything you said.

[D]

Writer strike.

[C]

Yeah, but you had me with Chris Everton Navratilova. I tell you that because that's my wheelhouse. That's when Greg Cody started following tennis big time. That's when I played a lot on the other side. You had Connors and McEnroe. That's my wheelhouse right there. So I'm all over Chris Evert and Martina Navratilova big time. I'll be lining up to see it.

[A]

Chris, I meant to tell you, please get the back in my day music for any time today. He just goes in the wayback machine and just starts doing the old guy stuff. Do you have it back in my day.

[C]

It's in the incubator. It may be ready next week. Yeah, you don't want to take it out of the oven too soon. You know, it's like doing. Making brownies. You know, you gotta have that toothpick ready. When the toothpick comes out clean, you've over baked it. When the toothpick comes out wet, it needs more time. When the toothpick comes out with just a little bit of soft crumb on it. Perfect. Same with the back of my day.

[A]

Zazzle. Why are you looking at him that way?

[D]

So we don't.

[C]

Right. Oh, I'm sorry. I heard him thinking that.

[D]

No, I'm you.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's different than me. That's.

[A]

That's your.

[D]

This is your voice. Is it too close?

[A]

That's your inner mouth tinkering. So no. No is the answer. No is the answer. You don't have a Back in my desk.

[C]

Not at the point.

[E]

Well, it's a playoff game day for

[C]

the heat, so it's a little extra work, sailor. I don't want to 15.

[A]

No, you let your inter.

[D]

The others, they all learn from me.

[A]

Can't play with it. He just loves it too much. Oh, you just stay straight ahead. Try not to inter.

[D]

Fall in the jack driver. Comfort is param.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

I'm fuller than burn Fuller.

[F]

I'm almost embarrassed at how easy that is. There's no rhyme or reason to it. It's just tickling him with his own catchphrase.

[A]

Oh, but this is. Look, I.

[F]

In a very slightly different voice.

[A]

Okay, do me a favor. Do you have give him Zaz. Run, Run, Mike. Yeah, I'll do the list, give him the 50 so that he can just. He could just interrupt.

[F]

Greg, can you give me fanfare as I do it? I always think that it's kind of missing a missing element there.

[A]

You will, but you will end up. You will end up feeling really good about the fact that Greg Cody is tickled by nothing more than his own narcissism. So when you're sitting there celebrating him by uttering his catchphrases, I'd argue that at this point in his life, that's something that feels better to him than sex. I'm ready for sex.

[D]

No, no. I mean always, baby.

[B]

Where will that be?

[D]

Where's my click? No, I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. Number 50 I'm Fuller than Vern Fuller.

[A]

49.

[D]

Where's my click? Click.

[A]

48.

[D]

Hey, Butterfinger.

[A]

47, 46, 45.

[D]

I'm busier than a one armed paper hanger.

[G]

Pardon me.

[A]

44.

[D]

Georgia, Georgia.

[A]

43.

[D]

I'm the kind of guy that.

[A]

42.

[D]

Ball in the jack.

[A]

41.

[D]

Hey, hey, we're the monkeys, baby.

[A]

40.

[D]

So can accept hey, hey with a hey, heys.

[A]

40.

[D]

Thank you, Billy.

[A]

39.

[D]

I love him like a pet. 38. Who made it a shallot?

[A]

37.

[D]

We're rolling now, huh?

[A]

36.

[D]

The old brain beating me 35. Let's go states.

[A]

34.

[D]

Driver comfort is paramount 33. Dummy up, save up 32. Catch as catch can 31 don't make it right 30.

[A]

So on and so forth 29.

[C]

Pretty good.

[A]

28.

[D]

The Little League theory 27. Nice hat, asshole.

[A]

26.

[D]

The others, they'll all learn from me. 25. Don't go showering to try to please me.

[A]

24.

[D]

Look at that jerk.

[A]

23.

[D]

It's like a packing house in here. Hams hanging from hooks.

[A]

22.

[D]

What'd you learn?

[A]

21.

[D]

Hey,

[A]

Check out the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody where he unveils two new catchphrases every week. We are now in the top 20. Yesterday on the show, Amin Elhassan came on and he was making fun of Tyrese Halliburton and the idea that he has done the opposite of the rehab schedule of Jayson Tatum, who got back quickly. The interesting. One of the most interesting things about the last couple of years of the playoffs and the randomness of threes and it being slightly less predictable than it used to be is you've had Dallas and Indiana in the finals when they're four and five seeds and that's pretty unusual, like for four and five seeds to get all the way there. And Tyrese Haliburton got hurt and Indiana was terrible this year. They couldn't do much of anything. And he now has shingles as well. Shingles are stress related most often, are they not? Certainly in old people shingles. Jeremy, if you could look up for me, I associate shingles with stress.

[B]

I know my dad got it. He was older and he caught chickenpox and it turned into shingles. That can happen when you acquire it.

[F]

It's the same virus.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it's a virus that gives you chick.

[A]

But is it also linked to stress or am I making that up?

[E]

Stress weakens the immune system, thus making you more susceptible to shingles. But no, stress is not directly related to.

[F]

But it can be a trigger.

[A]

So let's listen to Tyrese Halliburton talk about what it is that he is feeling as he's lost an eyebrow.

[H]

Yeah, I've lost part of my eyebrow. My eye is always swollen from itching it. I have good days and bad days, but for the most part it's bad days has not been any fun. I'm still honestly dealing with it. I've been taking, you know, unbelievable amounts of medication to try to get rid of it. It hasn't worked. It's obviously caused me to like gain weight and look a little bigger. And so that's been a topic of conversation through social media and stuff. But what can you do? But yeah, no, I've done. It's not been fun and hopefully it goes away here pretty soon. You know, just it's hard to really tell, like nerve pain. Like I've been having nerve pain now for two months and in the world of nerve pain for people who've had that before, it's not very long. So I hope it's Hope it goes away soon, but there's no way to really know.

[A]

Well, that made me sad. I always thought shingles is one of these things we could have fun with.

[C]

We have a family friend who had shingles and she was debilitated, bedridden.

[B]

Be very serious when you're older.

[C]

Yeah. And it can be very, very mild. But if it hits you hard, it puts you in bed and you're out of commission for several days, maybe weeks. And there's a vaccine for it. You know, I used to think of shingles as the old timey disease that was from the 50s or 60s or something. But it's a current thing.

[F]

It's not.

[A]

Can you look up for me, please, Jeremy, the antidotes for shingles? Because I didn't think that there was medication for that. I thought that shingles was something that either went away or it didn't and that you weren't going to get a whole lot of help from medication. So when I hear that he's being medicated severely, I thought that shingles, you just sort of. When you get chickenpox, you get chicken pox. Like, there's not. You're not getting around chickenpox. And I thought that shingles was similar here. When he says he's taking an unbelievable amount of medication, I just didn't think there was such a thing that helped.

[B]

It could just be for the pain because apparently, you know, along with the rash, of course, which you. You also have with chickenpox, like, it could affect your nerves.

[F]

I think it's hugely painful. So it's one of the more painful things. It can be one of the more painful ailments you can suffer through. It's really bad.

[E]

You guys are right on that end. So there are a few different medications that sometimes are prescribed to help speed up healing or lower risk of deeper complications. But really the primary things that are assigned according to the Mayo Clinic are just different pain medications. And obviously the different pain medications, depending on what it is that the NBA player drug agreement is as well, is going to affect different things for Tyrese Halliburton.

[A]

Don Lebatard is there.

[C]

Back in my day, there is actually.

[F]

Were you not going to tell anyone? Wait a minute, you guys, Guys, it's a Tuesday st.

[A]

Here's your guy, Greg Cody with Back in my Day.

[C]

Okay, here it is. Sorry, adultery

[F]

for this one.

[A]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Please put it on the poll at Lebatard show which animal is larger, walrus or wildebeest?

[C]

Kill the pumpkin.

[F]

Are you confused with wildebeest and like a wild boar?

[A]

I think wildebeest is like one of

[E]

those boring zoo animals.

[F]

You remember that scene where Simba almost gets trampled? That's all wildebeest.

[A]

Like skinny horses.

[C]

Are you thinking like a water buffalo witch?

[G]

A walrus is still bigger than all of those animals, by the way. By several times.

[A]

Well, but it can't be bigger than a water buffalo.

[C]

Oh, yeah, look at that. Looks like a big hog.

[D]

We're like a dog with a bone on this.

[A]

That is a boar, Greg Cody. And it's not on the screen that anyone but you is watching. You're pointing at a screen that wasn't on our television.

[C]

A robot chasing a boar.

[A]

Sentence you thought you'd never say, huh?

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Yes. I was thinking the wildebeest was larger and I would obviously. And while I don't think it's a water buffalo, I also don't think anybody would answer the question that a walrus is bigger than a water buffalo.

[G]

By the stats that I'm looking at here, water buffaloes are 8 to 10ft in body length and weighing about 1500 to 2600 pounds, which is about, you know, walrus is about 25 to 3700 pounds and about 9 to 12ft tall.

[C]

There's me as a walrus.

[A]

Once again, people can't see it.

[D]

Identify someone that can have our back. Jeremy. He's yearning for our approval.

[A]

Do we have another angle of Greg as the walrus? I like the other one better.

[E]

Hey, I resemble that one, Mark.

[A]

The one I like the best. And I resemble that remark. Joke. What are you?

[C]

That's good.

[A]

You're a 90 year old comedian. That was good.

[G]

You know what?

[E]

I don't want your approval anymore.

[D]

Yes, he does.

[A]

That's true.

[E]

You got my inner monologue there.

[A]

A couple of things that I wanted to get to with you guys here as it relates to what it is that Mark Stein is writing. It's a strange shirt, aggressive nipples from Dan the Walrus here. There's a growing anticipation from Mark Stein. That I'd just like for you guys to exclude the audio audience slightly less than that. Just slightly less than that. Because it's a pretty big audience and I'd like to not exclude them quite that much. The growing anticipation from Mark Stein that Kawhi Leonard, LeBron James and Giannis are probably going to be on different teams next season. Right. All three of them are likely saw on the screen in here. KD is saying, I'm sorry, Perkins is Saying a couple of crazy things as he does. He says that Kevin Durant is not a top 10 player of all time.

[B]

That's not crazy yet.

[A]

No, it was the yet. It was the next word. I wasn't finished saying it. As if he. I got excited, as if he could do something here the rest of the way that would make him a top 10 player now. But he also said, and this part is crazier, that if LeBron wins this series against the Rockets, the goat conversation is over. That if he wins this series against the Houston Rockets, he's better than Michael Jordan. That this is the one that would take him over the top. It would be really impressive. Luka is back in the country and I don't know if he's expected back at any point in this series, but you have a chance for a really great game. One story of LeBron versus the Rockets without Austin Reaves and without Luka Doncic, or you have the possibility of all of you who watch that Roy Jones Jr. Mike Tyson exhibition saying to yourself, why did I buy this Roy Jones Jr. Mike Tyson exhibition? Because Houston's defense, I think, is uniquely qualified to bother this version of LeBron.

[C]

It.

[A]

It's just young and fast and, and big and long and big and. What are you shaking your head about?

[B]

I don't think the Lakers win a game. I think it's 4, 0.

[F]

Houston, you're just sticking to you.

[A]

You said it a few months ago. We're sticking with it.

[B]

Yeah, I'm gonna be right. Whatever.

[G]

You don't think our game.

[B]

I don't think the Lakers win. Ah, game this series. I said that a couple months ago. I felt good about it. Then I was looking stupid because the Lakers were playing really great and then Luka and Austin Reeves get hurt and now I'm looking like I'm going to be right again, sticking to it. Not a game.

[C]

I'm surprised that the whole goat conversation between Michael and LeBron comes down to a first round, four versus five series. Like, why is that the tipping point for who's the greatest?

[A]

Because it's Kendrick Perkins.

[C]

Okay, good answer. It just seems like weird to like, say, all right, now if he wins a first round series, he's the greatest ever.

[A]

What do you guys do, though, with the overall of Kendrick Perkins exists to say that thing. Gilbert Arenas exists to say that thing.

[G]

Dan, you said the exact same thing that Perk said. You said it yesterday prior to Perk saying it. Unless you took it from Perk.

[A]

I did not. I absolutely did not say that. If LeBron won this series. He'd be better than Michael Jordan.

[G]

I'm pretty sure you said something very close to that.

[A]

I appreciate. I promise you, you will find no record of me saying anything close that I did say it was.

[G]

I'll look for that.

[A]

No, I said greatest achievement of his career is what I did say. I said that it would be if, as the oldest player in the league, without Luka and Doncic, he wins a series against the Houston Rockets. I believe it will be the most impressive thing that he has done as the oldest player in the league.

[F]

He did say that.

[A]

Not better than Michael Jordan.

[G]

Your way. You said greatest.

[F]

If he does the most impressive thing in his storied career would be better

[G]

than Michael Jordan doing it.

[A]

I did not say. I did not invoke the name of Michael Jordan in any way.

[B]

Say it.

[A]

Say what Kendrick Perkins said.

[C]

Yes, I own it.

[A]

I want to talk to you guys about both. The possibility I just mentioned before you started putting me on the screen as a Walter A. Walrus. Mark Stein saying those three guys are likely to be in a different uniform next season. Correct.

[B]

I actually said it on ESPN Radio yesterday afternoon that. But I think Kawhi Leonard is going to be traded.

[A]

It would make sense.

[C]

It would. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's astounding to hear. I mean, Giannis is all over the map when it comes to what he says, but I think it's pretty clear he's going to be traded. Right.

[B]

But LeBron, I don't see it anymore. I don't. I. I can't see LeBron playing somewhere outside of L. A.

[A]

He has not played in Los Angeles longer than he's played anywhere else.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

In one sitting. In one stretch. Yeah. I can't see him going anywhere else at this point in his career, especially because he. Like, it wasn't that long ago it seemed like neither one of them wanted to be together anymore. But based on the way that he has settled into this role as, like, the third guy on the team, if you're the Lakers, you wouldn't want to have LeBron as your third guy.

[G]

Absolutely.

[B]

I understand you want him as your first or probably not even your second, but if LeBron's good with being the third guy, that's not good for the Lakers.

[F]

LeBron is a good third guy, but LeBron is going to be 42. And. And if you're the Lakers, you're probably thinking, we can get a younger third guy. You know that he's playing great. I know he's Been playing great. But is this the plan? One more year with LeBron? Potentially. Maybe. Maybe you can squeeze out two more years with LeBron.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

There has to be some foresight here.

[A]

Greg, where are you on your draft coverage? Draft preparation? The NFL draft is in a couple of weeks. We will be doing a live stream our way during the NFL draft. How many exactos you have been better than Mel Kuiper Most years at picking the right team and the right player to the right team. Those are called exactos?

[C]

Yep.

[A]

What are the others called? There's an exacto and there's another one. There's a. What are the names of these acto?

[C]

The exacto is the big one.

[A]

Yeah, but it's a zagato. You don't remember your sayings. That's what's happening here, right? You don't remember what your sayings are. The draft is in two weeks. Asking you what prep you've done, and you don't remember what.

[D]

You're brain beating me.

[C]

You are brain beating me. The exacto is the right player to the right team no matter where. Like the dolphins pick 11th and 30th. If I get one of those two right, it's to the right team. It's an exacto. A zagacto is the exact player to the exact team in the precise order.

[B]

How many of those do you normally nail?

[C]

Most. Most exact.

[D]

What he said. He's insecure about that stuff.

[C]

Most exactly. Are zigactos most exactos as a geckos.

[A]

Are you scared to speak now, Zaz? Are there times that you were scared to speak? Like, I felt you sort of.

[D]

Look at that.

[A]

I felt. I felt you. I felt you retreat as you sort of slurred your way through the middle of that sentence, talking normal.

[B]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[C]

Yeah, and it's not lost on me that he's wearing a hat that has his one saying on it to kind of usurp my cat.

[F]

How many do you have?

[C]

I got a lot.

[D]

Take that ass.

[C]

Bad news for the blank. Yeah. Weapons. We got a lot.

[A]

See, that's Samson's inner monologue. That's not Zaz's inner monologue.

[C]

I got like eight options over here, man.

[A]

Your brain beat me.

[C]

Wait a second.

[D]

Your brain beating him.

[A]

I don't think you guys realize how passive aggressive Greg on a day where we've gone to his top 50 list twice and only gotten halfway through it and aren't yet at the top 20, saying to Zaz, whose cap is backward. You're one saying is on your hat. I see. He was saying, I've got 50 of them and they fall off of me easily.

[B]

You've got one like, how self involved is Greg that he. You essentially just claimed that I choose my clothing in the morning based on you.

[C]

Well, in this case, I mean, come on. But Cody is your boy. I'm in the middle of my award winning top 50 catchphrase Countdown. And. And you have your catchphrase literally in my face.

[B]

I spent no time thinking about your catchphrase when I was at home.

[C]

That's what they all say.

[A]

It does look like you spend no time thinking about getting dressed.

[D]

The others, they all learn from me.

[B]

Good outfit today. Got my Brett Hitman heart shirt.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Dress myself up like a big boy.

[A]

Don LeBatard.

[C]

Quiet, man. Yes. You know, I'm married, man. I don't cheat on my wife. Despite that gratuitous line in. Back in. I wish you were here. My wife, I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married, you know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm on the phone with her. 30 seconds. You know, what am I. Hello? All right, all right, we'll see you. All right. And then, you know, I'm gonna see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie. Good.

[A]

This is the Dan Levatar Show. With this two gods, We have reached a new normal in the aging of athletes. So that Ovechkin had a hat trick a couple of days ago. And I'm like, how, how, how? How is it possible that these people are playing into their 40s successfully? How is it possible that the oldest player in basketball is LeBron James and he's still routinely putting up triple doubles? They' seven and eight years. They've changed the pharmacy and the science of this has changed aging by like. It really makes you think eight years in sports.

[D]

What could be the reason?

[C]

Yeah, it does make you think.

[D]

All these athletes doing unprecedented things at older ages. Say it.

[A]

Say the thing is that where you guys, this is not.

[D]

There we go. That. Yeah, it's me now, Dan. Have the courage. We've danced around it. We've tried to make other people say it.

[B]

Just say it.

[A]

Ovechkin is on steroid.

[D]

Oh, yeah. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. We're gonna have to apologize. Ask the question. Let's do this responsibly. Jump the gun a little bit. But it's okay.

[A]

I regret saying flatly that Ovechkin is on steroids. But if he's doing stuff in hockey that you haven't seen from anybody other than Jaromir Jagr, is it fair to question that an unprecedented athlete might be doing things that are unnatural?

[D]

Yeah. All right. Have you seen the photos of Fernando Mendoza? He's gotten really big. I mean, your Canes guy deep down in here, I mean, he's pretty huge. Let's go. Let's ride the hot streak.

[A]

I don't think I want a huge quarterback. I don't want a quarterback. That's. I mean, how many of. How many of the quarterbacks do you look at and say, ah, that guy has been in the weight room. Like, Lamar Jackson is somebody that I want to do that with. But Josh Allen is somebody based. But it's not. You don't think of Josh Allen as. You just think of him as physically impressive from the get go. You don't think, like, he's put on a bunch of weight while he's been in the league.

[C]

He's a linebacker, though. When he's running with the ball, he's a linebacker.

[F]

I had a debate with a friend about this who actually had the very same take. Do you even want a rip quarterback?

[C]

Are they good?

[F]

Peyton Manning had an eight pack, and people didn't know he had the V. Peyton Manning hadn't. Look up Peyton Manning abs. I got Peyton Manning V. It'll change your entire opinion of what kind of athletes these guys are. Because we just saw him, like, doing the stiff, like, play action.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

It's insane. Now, he did have something in the news.

[A]

Well, that was sent from his wife, and that was Al Jazeera's report.

[F]

But these guys have sleeper bodies. Peyton Manning, I mean, I thought you met in college. No.

[B]

Last year.

[F]

No. He had ab. Like, there's a photo of him at Tennessee shirtless, and you're like, My God, Pa.

[A]

Troy Aikman looks in his 50s, better than he did in his 20s. And while that is indeed fit, what you guys are telling me about Mendoza is that he's put on weight, that he's put on thickness.

[F]

He put on so much weight from Cal to Indiana. There were reporters that after they won the championship, were standing next to Mendoza. Man, I didn't know if he got it like that. And he played a very strong physical game there, going up against Miami's DNS. Like, we put a lot of Shots on him and his body withstood it. People don't talk about his physique and the transformation that he made. It's a big time reason why he leveled up.

[A]

People also don't talk about the Taurasi's of the world and the Serena Williams of the world and these ovechkins of the world playing into their 40s the way that they are. It doesn't make sense that LeBron James is the oldest player in the league and that body isn't broken. It's got a ton of miles on it. Like it's not. That's not a normal human body. Steph is younger and can't get on the court. Like it's weird. It's in the history of human evolution. You just don't have the ability to play into your 40s. And then Brady's the greatest example of all. Where I'm assuming that most of you listening to this don't think it's absurd that Brady could come in for the right team next year and be a functional quarterback at 49, I think it's kind of crazy. I mean, he was doing it 45. Did he win a title at 43? Did he win, did he win that Bucs title at 43 years old? Like you say, it's kind of crazy. But what's crazier? Tom Brady playing a down in the league or doing, doing what Joe Flacco did last year or doing, doing what Philip Rivers did last year? I guess Tom Brady doing that for a game or winning the whole championship in his, in his 40s.

[B]

I guess for me it's because that, like that guy Joe Flacco hasn't stopped. Like Brady having stopped for several years at this point, I don't think he could jump back in.

[A]

I get why it is you would question that. It's not absurd. But the only player I could say it about and not make it absurd is this one. It's legitimately the only one in the history of the sport that I could say it about because the way that he has cared for his body makes him in that sport, an unprecedented human being.

[G]

Brady was 43 and 188 days old when he won super bowl with the bucks.

[B]

Man, I'm 45.

[C]

A couple of weeks ago, Brady did talk about maybe wanting to come out of retirement and play another season, but the NFL basically told him, you need to divest of your part ownership. And he said, eh, maybe not.

[F]

But when we're talking about how these athletes play well into their 40s tennis also, that was a sport famously where you hit 30, you're kind of done. And guys started pushing that limit. Women started pushing that limit. Messi Ronaldo, even though he's trailing back some now. We're talking about all time greats. LeBron James, all time great in the NFL. We keep mentioning Tom Brady as a gold standard. He won a Super bowl at 43. But we see other all time great quarterbacks hit a wall when they're approaching that 40 number. I mean, Drew Brees totally fell off a cliff. Aaron Rodgers fell off. We should put a little respect on the name too and realize that we're talking about all time great.

[A]

Roethlisberger.

[F]

Yeah, like, they all look like that's what aging looks like. And Brady, Yeah. I mean, a lot was made of his doctor and pliability and that's probably a reason for their success. But also, these are Mount Rushmore all time athletes in terms of success in their sport.

[G]

We talk about Kirk Cousins and his like ability or not ability. He's 37.

[D]

Right.

[G]

We talked about the Achilles. We talked about him falling off a cliff, his arm not being the same anymore. And Brady won how many Super Bowls after 37.

[F]

I got to tell you that, like, I can understand it with these guys. The ones, the one that totally threw me is what Philip Rivers did, which was one of the most astonishing things I've ever seen in all of sports. He went to Seattle and he looked like the best quarterback that was on that team. Like just hopped in. Not a body guy, clearly. And to be able to do that with zero prep. Well, he couldn't Super Bowl.

[B]

Well, he couldn't. Like it really was all about his mind.

[F]

Yes. But that was still super impressive. You're telling me, like, oh, he couldn't throw. He played quarterback effectively. That was a good game against the eventual super bowl champions.

[A]

But when you say all time greats, because you're not wrong about that. But there have been a lot of all time greats before that and only recently do they get into their 40s being able to play. There have been many, many all time greats and we don't have the proliferation. This is a celebration of science more than it is of all time grades.

[G]

Yeah, 100%. It's about taking care of your body. Back in the day, you just smoke cigarettes in the locker room.

[F]

I hear you, but we're not talking about, oh, they're in this class of all time great with Brady, Serena and LeBron James and Messi. We're not talking about. Perhaps they're the greatest. There are strong arguments to be made with these four in particular. No, they're simply the greatest.

[A]

But most of us did see Michael Jordan with the Wizards and it was all jump shots and his body's broken and that was in his late 30s.

[B]

But I think that's where the celebration of science comes into play. Like I would. I would imagine that it's because of medicine.

[A]

All right, so put it on the poll at Lebatard. Show more athletes in their 40s pliability or lie ability? Because I'm just asking the question. Against. The spread is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours, Roy. What do we got?

[C]

Penguins at Blues. Tonight. You can expect the Penguins to rest their stars as they go up to St. Louis because they have their playoff matchup already.

[F]

So go with the Blues. They are favorites at home by a

[C]

goal and a half against the spread.

[G]

We're going to the second biggest fake playoff game of the evening. The Miami Heat are taking on the Charlotte Hornets. We're going to take the Miami Heat plus five and a half.

[C]

Khale Ware.

[G]

Bam. Out of bio. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

Because I'm. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna bet the Heat.

[A]

So that Charlotte. That's what I'm doing against the spread.

[G]

So give me five and a half for the Heels tonight against Buzz City.

[F]

You're a bad fan. Not a fan.

[A]

Surprised?

[F]

Surprised. He mentioned Ovechkin without mentioning that it could be his final time playing in the NHL. That's. There's a whole bunch of mystery around this. Emily Kaplan wrote on it. They don't know. They did. When they played the Pens. They made a big deal of the Face off photo. It was cool. Like with Crosby next to him. It kind of had those vibes.

[B]

But then they wanted to shake his hand after the game and he was like, no, no, this isn't necessary.

[F]

Yeah, it's. It's weird. It's mixed messages for sure. There is a theory that Ovechkin's not going to retire in the NHL. He's going to go to Russia and play in the KHL.

[A]

Do what Jarmir Jagr did. Just play. 50 years old.

[F]

Yeah, Still. Still doing. When we're talking about all time greats. Still doing.

[B]

Could still play in the NHL.

[F]

No, I mean the NHL kind of. But he had a miraculous All Star season at an age that we're not used to seeing.

[A]

Wasn't he 47? Like, was it. Was it.

[F]

What was the All Star season with the Panthers?

[A]

What was the ridiculous All Star season age of Yarmier Jagger, who oftentimes people would end up watching at the facility. He's there at midnight.

[F]

He's always been a body guy too.

[A]

Skating, skating.

[B]

His last year in the league was 45.

[A]

45 years old. Was that his All Star season or was that.

[F]

No, no, I think he was like two, three years.

[B]

He was an All Star at 43.

[F]

So he was an All Star at 43. Tom Brady won a Super bowl at 43.

[C]

What we're talking about is why Nick Wright is allowed to say with a straight face, lebron James can still be an all star at age 50. Because while preposterous on one level, it's no longer out of the question with. With all time greats like that who take care of their bodies. Look at, look at what he's doing now. I don't know his stats, but he's having a great season again. He's relentless. If you want the theory of Alexander Ovreskin chasing a thousand goals, he is 71 goals away.

[F]

Yagur is still playing at 54.

[A]

Did you guys get moved at all last night with Jonathan Quick and the Rangers shaking hands with Panthers who were coming over, some of them in dress clothes, getting on the ice to just respect a, you know, a champion the way that you'd want the punctuation on your career to be if you were the Rangers goaltender who had won a champion. Florida does not like the Rangers, but they extended him this respect because they understood that they were dealing with a champion goaltender.

[F]

I felt bad for Jonathan Quick in that he's certainly appreciated in hockey circles. That's a name considering where he won his championships and the performances he had. He was in this weird time where ESPN wasn't talking about the NHL. The NHL was battling trying to win fans back from multiple lockouts. And he really dominated as this sport tried to get traction back into the mainstream. Because at that point people were thinking about it. It's like it's really three and a half majors. So I'm glad he got that moment.

[A]

Zaz yawned and Greg started looking at his blog and Internet podcast pod numbers. I stopped listening to you at all.

[C]

As a matter of fact, I was

[B]

done.

[A]

Levatar show with the Stugas gamble on by DraftKings.