Hour 2: Have a Gold Day (feat. Ros Gold-Onwude) - The Dan Le Batard Show

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[00:01]
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[01:10]
Mike Ryan
Can she hear us?
[01:11]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Hi.
[01:12]
Mike Ryan
Hello. Do you know everyone here?
[01:14]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I don't know everybody.
[01:16]
Dan LeBatard
I've never met Ross. I'm Jonathan Zaslow. Hi. Nice to meet you.
[01:19]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Hey, what's up? I'm Roz.
[01:21]
Mike Ryan
You're. You're welcome to call him bloated Stugats if you like. On first reference.
[01:26]
Greg Cody
He's not more bloated than St. Gatz.
[01:28]
Mike Ryan
Okay.
[01:29]
Dan LeBatard
They're equally bloated.
[01:30]
Greg Cody
No, Stugatz is more bloated than.
[01:31]
Dan LeBatard
You guys are doing a nostalgia thing, remembering stugats from another time.
[01:34]
Greg Cody
This is like very, very heavy now for his, like, precedent.
[01:39]
Mike Ryan
We've already started. As you can tell. Greg, your son was telling me not to start, but we've already started. We are introducing Ross Gold on Wu Day to some in our audience. Even though many of you should know she's an Emmy winning broadcaster and New York Liberty analyst. And if you've been following, follow in our feed. You should follow, listen and subscribe on Instagram, TikTok and YouTube because she is covering stuff for Metal ARC Media and DraftKings in a way that's super strong. I really don't know though, I mean, where to start with her because you've got the WNBA season starting tomorrow. She worked for the warriors and, and she knows how New York is feeling right now too.
[02:18]
Dan LeBatard
We gotta start with rings because Roz won with the warriors and she Won with the Liberty. She is in the rings club along.
[02:25]
Roz Gold-Onwude
With me, and my teams win. There you go.
[02:28]
Dan LeBatard
So, Ro, good to have you on the team. Roz. The question is, if you cover a team and you win a championship, that team wins a championship. Do you get to call yourself a champion?
[02:42]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Ooh, I think the. The players and, you know, the coaching staff get to be the champions. But if the organization is classy, has that, you know, extra bag, that extra money, they might give you a ring. But I do try to draw the line like I cover a championship team. I work with the championship team. I got rings for all the warriors championships I was with, and we'll see if I get one for the Liberty.
[03:06]
Mike Ryan
I don't know what that ruling is. Judge Zaslow, because Zaslo is a two time, award winning, but ring winning champion with the Miami Heat because he was on the pregame, postgame show. He got the same ring that all the great broadcasters did.
[03:18]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. So I don't think Amin presented it very well to you, Roz, because he's saying if you covered a championship. I didn't cover a champion championship. To Miami Heat team. I did not cover them. I was on the broadcast and so I was given rings. That's why, Roz, I am a two time. Not once. The Heat won two years in a row. I'm a two time champion broadcaster.
[03:42]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Listen, I like that, like, line in the sand. You work for the organization, which I've done too. So I guess, like, you're part of a championship organization and everyone within it gets to be a champ.
[03:54]
Mike Ryan
No, you're being. No, you're being too nice. No, no. She's asking the question that should a.
[03:58]
Roz Gold-Onwude
What do you do with your rings? Like, do you wear them?
[04:01]
Dan LeBatard
That's a very good question, Roz. Thank you for asking. I keep them in a really, really fancy case on my dresser in the master bedroom of the Zaslow mansion. And when I go to a very nice event, like, say a wedding, like I did a couple of weeks ago, I put one of those babies on. Not both of them, Ross, because that would be super gaudy. But I wear one of them.
[04:24]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Class only class.
[04:26]
Mike Ryan
And if his house was on fire, it'd be the only thing he'd go in to get.
[04:30]
Dan LeBatard
Well, yeah, because my kids and my wife have legs, so you gotta go.
[04:34]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Back and help the helpless ring. It also is a nice conversation starter. Like, maybe I should start wearing.
[04:39]
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
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Roz Gold-Onwude
Okay, listen.
[04:41]
Dan LeBatard
Zaz's ring is made out of tin foil and it leaves his finger green. He has the D list ring. Roz, I want to ask you something, because this has been in my crawl for a while. For me, they give out too many championship rings. The people who deserve them, you, the athlete and the coaching staff and maybe a select few others deserve championship rings for winning at all. When you start giving them to broadcasters and others like that, don't you think that it demeans the championship ring a little bit? Not at all.
[05:10]
Roz Gold-Onwude
And there's also tiers of rings. I'm very proud of the time I spent covering the warriors during. Especially during, like, that time. It was, you know, the peak of, like, dynasty era. I was there for the very, very first. I worked my way up from the Santa Cruz warriors, their D, their G League team, came in for the first year of Steph and Steve Kerr. Everything popped off right there and then. Like, I saw them go from this innocent group of, like, guys who were excited to get past the second round to, like, literal superstars and along. And my last year with them was the Kevin Durant championship ring year, and there's tears. So it's the big Mama Jama rings, like that cover hand for the players and staff.
[05:51]
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
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Roz Gold-Onwude
And I remember, I think there were two tiers after that. There was one that was smaller but still diamond covered for other supportive staff members, and then another tier where I don't think it was like, as diamond covered, but it was still metal. That went to, like, another tier of staff.
[06:09]
Mike Ryan
Well, but this is the thing.
[06:10]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Middle tier.
[06:11]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, this is the thing that's happening, though. Cody's accusing Zaz of having a tinfoil tier, and Zaz is saying, no, I've got the middle tier.
[06:19]
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Tinfoil is a metal.
[06:21]
Roz Gold-Onwude
No, no, that's giving. Middle tier.
[06:23]
Dan LeBatard
Take a look at that. Those are. Those are my rings.
[06:25]
Mike Ryan
Middle. That's middle. Not metal. Middle tier, not metal.
[06:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Did you get a certificate of authenticity and an evaluation of price? Because mine came with that.
[06:35]
Dan LeBatard
I have a certificate of authenticity, but I don't have evaluation of price.
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Roz Gold-Onwude
I have that. I have the box with the spinner and the lights that show it. I mean, is your name on the ring? Of course.
[06:45]
Dan LeBatard
Yes. You're right. Of course, Roz. Of course. Yeah.
[06:48]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Respectfully, sorry, I didn't mean to insult with that question, but do you have box? Well, that was. Who did yours? We had Jacob the jeweler, I believe at the time.
[06:57]
Dan LeBatard
Maybe Jacob was busy. I. I don't recall that name. But. But the name of the jeweler is on the box. Yes. Maybe I'll take a picture when I get home.
[07:04]
Stugotz
Today, Acme is the name.
[07:06]
Mike Ryan
How do.
[07:09]
Dan LeBatard
Acme.
[07:11]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Acme is crazy. Like in the cartoons.
[07:18]
Dan LeBatard
Forks. Acme jewelers. The Roadrunner exploding with a stick of dynamite.
[07:25]
Mike Ryan
Oh my.
[07:25]
Dan LeBatard
From the Acme explosives. So dynamite.
[07:28]
Roz Gold-Onwude
You got your. Don't let these people. Ask them where I'm not.
[07:31]
Dan LeBatard
Rap. Nowhere. Nowhere. They're nowhere. We'll be looking forever if I ask them where theirs are.
[07:37]
Roz Gold-Onwude
If you want a more, a less gaudy place to rock your ring because I feel like the hand is a little. It's big and it's gaudy. You can make a chain and wear it as a necklace. And like I, maybe that only works for girls, but I think like, that's a cute way to like make use of the ring. Otherwise I've never, I've never ever once wore the rings. They're just both in the box. Safely in a safe box, as we mentioned.
[07:58]
Mike Ryan
And congratulations. This week they officially announced you're returning as full time color analyst for the championship winning New York Liberty. And when, when it, when it relates today to the things that you're most excited about or talking about in sports, is it your. The way that Golden State loses because you worked for them? The way that New York is feeling because New York and Boston is at the top of the sport, or is it the beginning of the WNBA draft? That's your employer? That's the thing that you're excited about?
[08:28]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I think all things New York. I'm going to lead with the New York Liberty. These are the reigning champions. I had the pleasure of covering them last season for about half the season, about half the games. Last year we doubled down. This season I am their full time color analyst. I'm from New York. I remember when the WNBA started. I'm from Queens. My mother took me to go see New York Liberty games. 28 years the league existed, they never won a championship and they finally won one last season. It meant so much to me on like a personal level. And my mother's sick and you know, completely out of it with like Alzheimer's and stuff. I wish she could really know what's going on and that her daughter was there. I got to host the championship parade at City Hall. I just kept thinking about my mom who changed my whole life through basket and so I'm very, I love this team. I'm very thankful to be around them. We'll see if I get a ring for my 15 or so games of coverage last season. I don't know, but I'm really just excited either way. I'm excited for My Brooklyn summer. I'm going to have a full time Brooklyn summer. And in connection to the Knicks, interestingly enough, I know the Liberty are owned by the owners of the Nets. The Brooklyn Nets. I am a New York Knicks fan, born and bred. It's in my blood. But respectfully, coming to New York to cover the New York Liberty, I leave at the end of the month should hopefully coincide with the Knicks being in the Eastern Conference finals, on their way to the finals. And I'm gonna be all in the mix of it. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. New York might explode if the Knicks, like, it's just, I'm ready to be in the streets with the people just out there going.
[10:07]
Mike Ryan
It's sort of hard to explain. I was trying to do it through Hank Azaria yesterday. It's hard to explain to people what basketball in New York means. That makes it different culturally than baseball, than football, than hockey, than any of it.
[10:25]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I got some answers. So New York basketball is culture, right? So, like, the way I came up in New York basketball, honestly, early on, my concept wasn't like, I'm going to the Garden to watch a Knicks game. That was something that was so outside of my stratosphere growing up. You know, lower class, poor. In Queens, ball was. We went to park tournaments at Kenny Anderson and Left Rack City, or we were at Kingdome or Dyckman or, you know, just street tournaments, Rucker Park. And it was holding your own. And at any level, there was so much respect for anyone who could hold their own. Like, even at the park across the street from my house at PS206. Like, Hoops was such a big part of the culture and we had such huge stars coming out, huge names like New York was, the basketball factory has fallen off since. But like, people you followed and you took pride in. In my generation, it was like Sebastian Telfair and things like that. And the women's basketball had some big names, too. Epiphany Prince. So, like, that's how much the game is loved at all levels. Imagine now you're talking about at the pros. And New York Knicks is, you know, the bloodline of it. The Nets got there later to Brooklyn, and that's exciting as an alternative. But when the Liberty won the championship this summer, after they won, Brooklyn was alive. People were in the streets. Police cars drove by, honked their horns at us. People were playing music in the streets, like dancing with each other. All sorts of music. Everything from Soca to Bad Bunny to hip hop to this and that. And it was so Exciting. Like if the Knicks do it, I'm actually afraid for safety. Like it might be a riot.
[12:08]
Mike Ryan
Well, it's a good thing they're not going to do it and your Brooklyn summer's gonna be ruined the way that all the Knicks, all the Knicks seasons end in heartbreak. Obviously.
[12:16]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I was happy for the Celtics to have a nice emotional win there. Like, you know, that was a pride win. And as a Knicks fan, I was, I was happy for them. You know, I'm not all, I'm not cruel. I have a big heart.
[12:27]
Mike Ryan
They can beat you, though. They can. I don't.
[12:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
No, no, no, no, no, no. I thought that was very nice for all of those nice role players to play outside themselves. Cornet shooting a bunch of threes. They're at home. It's exciting.
[12:39]
Dan LeBatard
Let's go back to.
[12:40]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Let's.
[12:40]
Dan LeBatard
A role player. Yeah.
[12:42]
Greg Cody
No, he's a star.
[12:43]
Stugotz
He's a star.
[12:43]
Dan LeBatard
He's a star. He's a star.
[12:45]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I really, really.
[12:47]
Dan LeBatard
You heard that dance star.
[12:48]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I really like Derrick White and I can go on a, on a tangent on like an important player to winning. But when they play the Knicks, I got a little, you know, a little cute there, but I thought I was happy for them to have that moment in honor of Jayson Tatum in Boston. And now let's go to New York and finish things up and move along. So.
[13:07]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, Roz, we've known each other a long time. I've told you all along that you bury the fact that you, I don't feel like you promote enough, that you were a high level player, you played at Stanford for four years, you're all defensive team and played for Nigeria, the national team. And you are a Hooper first and foremost before you broadcast. But I did want to ask you, you know, as we see the game has grown considerably on the women's side. How do you compare kind of playing against the elite players of your era versus the elite players today?
[13:38]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Well, I think, you know, look, there's a number of players that I played with and against that are still in the league now. So it's not that far off like, you know, your Neca Igwumikes, you know. But those are the veteran vets, the Skyler Diggins. Now like those are the vets of the league, but they're still the dominant in this league. I wouldn't say so much from when I played to what's happening now that there's such a difference in the quality to play. I would just say there's such a difference in the Investment and eyeballs and attendance and engagement with the league. And I also think that the league on a whole is much more authentic. Right. Like, everybody's. Instead of, like, trying to present the nice girls of the wnba, everybody's leaning into who they are. We got villains. We got all types of gen sexuality. We got all types of, like, femininity styles. We got different ways to show power and beauty. We got storylines, things that. That carried over from college to the wnba. You know, very captivating stars. Like, of course, Caitlin Clark is leading the way as far as eyeballs and attention. Angel Reese also has a captivated audience, and those are young stars that also lived up to the hype. Like the basketball product lived up to the hype and. And then players who. Like. I'm excited to see more of Asia Wilson. I think Nafisa Collier coming off of unrivaled in Miami with y' all might have established herself as the next favorite for best player in the world. And with the Liberty, like, you gotta check out Sabrina Unescu and Brianna Stewart, Jonquill Jones, like, the Liberty could run this thing back. They really could. They are so deep in talent. So.
[15:18]
Mike Ryan
All right.
[15:19]
Roz Gold-Onwude
But there's a lot. There's a lot of competition. It's a lot of parody in the league. So the difference is the attention. The attention and investment.
[15:25]
Mike Ryan
She's an incredible homer. Bought and paid for by all things New York and Liberty. Clearly not a journalist of any kind. She's a homer saying, they're going to Hooper. She works for the team, wants a Brooklyn summer and wants a ring for 15 games.
[15:41]
Dan LeBatard
15 real ring.
[15:42]
Mike Ryan
Zasla wasn't 15 games. It was midnight. It was waking up at 6am he wasn't doing 15 games for the Liberty.
[15:48]
Dan LeBatard
He was 12:30, though.
[15:50]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Out of 30 last season. Mind you, these seasons are different lengths.
[15:53]
Mike Ryan
Are you ready to play a new game where you're the judge? Because we've got judge Zaz here. But we are. We want from you. You're the judge.
[16:01]
Dan LeBatard
This is.
[16:01]
Mike Ryan
This is either good or gold. Okay. Good or gold.
[16:05]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Oh, I love it.
[16:06]
Mike Ryan
The lost Vegas aces are clear favorites. Good or gold.
[16:13]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Is the good, the bad.
[16:15]
Dan LeBatard
I think gold's just better, right? I wondered the same thing when I saw it on the. She has a good or gold with what's good and what's bad? I don't know.
[16:24]
Mike Ryan
Am I playing the game incorrectly?
[16:25]
Dan LeBatard
No, I think the game as presented to you by whoever came up with it. I'm not gonna name his name. Not really a great game.
[16:30]
Mike Ryan
All right. Good or Gold. The Indiana Fever are clear favorites.
[16:37]
Roz Gold-Onwude
No, that's just good.
[16:43]
Dan LeBatard
You're playing it right, Roz.
[16:44]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Just saying.
[16:45]
Dan LeBatard
No, that's how you play the game.
[16:46]
Greg Cody
I see the flaw.
[16:47]
Mike Ryan
No, I know.
[16:48]
Dan LeBatard
Good is like if it's. If it's no, that's good. If it's yes, that's gold.
[16:52]
Greg Cody
See, that's the flaw.
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Dan LeBatard
Ross, you're playing the game right. Just say.
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Roz Gold-Onwude
Just say yes or no winner in this game. So I just want to come back to the Aces. I expect them to be a lot better than last season. The Asia Wilson is rested. Yeah. Since you guys are Miami fans, you might have noticed that she hard launched her love and relationship with Bam Adebayo. She's happy. She launched her sneaker. She took time away from ball. Like, I think that's key. And then also Chelsea Gray crushed unrivaled in Miami, won the championship, won the mvp, the finals mvp. I think they're coming back rejuvenated. I think that's a good answer. It's not gold because I still think the favorites are the New York Liberty Fever. Same thing. They have ramped up the talent and the amount of support around Caitlin Clark and, you know, Aaliyah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell as their core big three. But they got all these vets. They're going to have to mesh. They got to get it together. But I think they could contend.
[17:45]
Dan LeBatard
Roz.
[17:46]
Roz Gold-Onwude
But they are not gold.
[17:47]
Dan LeBatard
Roz, how's Asia going to feel about Milwaukee?
[17:51]
Mike Ryan
That's a different game.
[17:53]
Roz Gold-Onwude
What you mean good or gold? Like if there's moves. If there's moves.
[18:00]
Greg Cody
Little Greeky, he's not coming to 305.
[18:02]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I'm one of those girlies that believe, you know, you support. You support your man. So pj, okay, he has to make a move, you know, then that's what she'll be. But Miami is, you know, a sweet life.
[18:11]
Mike Ryan
Good or gold? Asia Wilson is better than Bam Adebayo.
[18:18]
Roz Gold-Onwude
She's more decorated, I think. Is she more. Yes, she's more decorated. You know what's funny? They actually have very similar games. Are y' all familiar enough with Asia's game to be able to.
[18:30]
Greg Cody
I know for a fact she. She's like one of the top players in the league, if not the top player in the league. And that is certainly not Bam.
[18:35]
Dan LeBatard
Multiple, multiple time. Mvp.
[18:37]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Fair. But stylistically, interestingly enough, they both are two way players who continue to add offensive to their game. Asia might be. You could depend on Asia more for offensive production, but they both lock down. They're both like, got good athleticism.
[18:54]
Dan LeBatard
This feels like a gold.
[18:55]
Greg Cody
This is a gold. Come on. Why are we being so.
[18:57]
Dan LeBatard
Why do we have it so nice? Which one is that again?
[19:00]
Greg Cody
That's like the.
[19:00]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Wait. Asia's better than. Bam. I'll give that a goal.
[19:03]
Dan LeBatard
I'll give that a goal.
[19:03]
Mike Ryan
You know what? I think I'm going to tell everybody right now. You watch Good. Follow on the DraftKings network. She is great. Wednesday, 7:00pm Eastern, 4:00pm Pacific. Pacific. But in order to speed this up a little bit, okay, let's just make it good or gold. No context. Okay?
[19:18]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Okay.
[19:19]
Mike Ryan
Becky Hammond will ultimately leave the Aces to be head coach of the Spurs. Good or gold?
[19:25]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Good.
[19:26]
Mike Ryan
Nafisa Collier.
[19:27]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Also shout out to Mitch Johnson, Stanford University. We both played on the basketball programs, men's and women's, at the same time. Shout out to Mitch Johnson, new head coach of the Spurs.
[19:36]
Mike Ryan
I was not expecting a shout out there. It gets in the way of my very vigorous. Good or gold? Nafisa Collier wins a title with the Links before she wins an unrivaled championship. Good or gold?
[19:48]
Dan LeBatard
Gold.
[19:51]
Mike Ryan
Golden State will make the playoffs in their inaugural season.
[19:55]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Oh, good.
[19:57]
Dan LeBatard
No, it's a weird game.
[19:58]
Greg Cody
It's a bad game.
[19:59]
Mike Ryan
It's a bad game. She feel very good. We're very good.
[20:04]
Greg Cody
Look, I am angry.
[20:05]
Dan LeBatard
And this game was good. She's gold.
[20:08]
Mike Ryan
Was this Billy? Was this. Is this a remnant from Wild Billy Wednesday?
[20:13]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Who made this game?
[20:14]
Mike Ryan
Yes. Who made the excellent work by you, Ross. Thank you for being on with us. Good. This is disgusting.
[20:19]
Dan LeBatard
This is. What game?
[20:20]
Mike Ryan
Is this.
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Greg Cody
A good one?
[20:23]
Mike Ryan
It's not a good one.
[20:24]
Dan LeBatard
It's not Good old one with that gold. It's not a gold one. Goldfollow.
[20:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Guys, it was a pleasure.
[20:30]
Mike Ryan
Was it? Was it though, with this game? Was it? We ruined it. Look, this woman is so much better than our games.
[20:36]
Greg Cody
I am leaving here in a worse mood than I walked in.
[20:39]
Dan LeBatard
I did.
[20:39]
Roz Gold-Onwude
What?
[20:39]
Greg Cody
Dude, no.
[20:41]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Guys, have a gold day.
[20:42]
Mike Ryan
Thank you.
[20:44]
Dan LeBatard
That's good. That's how you play the game.
[20:46]
Greg Cody
If you got the game better, then maybe it would have worked. I don't know.
[20:49]
Dan LeBatard
But it's a bad.
[20:49]
Greg Cody
Well, it's a good game.
[20:50]
Dan LeBatard
Damn. We're still on it.
[20:51]
Mike Ryan
Sabrina goes out as an all time great this year. Good or gold?
[20:55]
Dan LeBatard
Gold.
[20:56]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Sabrina Oneescu gold.
[20:57]
Dan LeBatard
Pitch clock. Next.
[21:04]
Roz Gold-Onwude
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[22:10]
Dan LeBatard
I'm just trying to live up to the version of me my dogs think I am. You know what I mean? I mean Dopey and Izzy. They think I've got it all figured out. Meanwhile, I'm googling Can dogs eat watermelon Midnight? Because I fed them some and now I'm panicked. And guess what? We're out of food, flea, meds, treats, everything. Enter Chewy Lifesaver. Got everything delivered in likely a day.
[22:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Food?
[22:30]
Dan LeBatard
Check. Flea stuff? Check.
[22:31]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Toys?
[22:32]
Dan LeBatard
They'll ignore in 10 minutes, but I'll keep buying anyway. Yep, check. Chewy has over 100,000 products. Food, meds, toys, fish stuff, bird stuff. I mean, if it's got a tail or scales, Chewy's got it. They've got vet visits, insurance and all of it. Plus I'm on autoship now. I don't have to remember anything. And here's the best part about auto ship. This is one of those months where Dopey and Izzy got a little hungrier in their tum tums and food was going quicker than I anticipated. I can go onto auto ship and change the date and it'll come sooner. Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy, and right now you can save $20 on your first order and get free shipping by going to chewy.comDan that's chewy.comDan to save $20 on your first order with free shipping. Chewy.comDan minimum purchase required. New customers only. Terms and conditions apply. See site for complete details. By the way, dogs can eat watermelon, just not the seed seats or the Ryans. I'm learning.
[23:24]
Greg Cody
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[24:31]
Mike Ryan
Don LeBatard.
[24:32]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, very. Imagine if someone told you you couldn't have a Corvette. Stugats. I'm a grown ass man who's not. Who's not filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini. Well, I probably can, but that's. Hey. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch. A two part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock. Hey, fans of the Pitch Clock, there's another voice you're about to hear. Hi. Over, buddy. There it is. We're back. Yeah. Pitch Clock, we're here. It's another week of our baseball trivia coming at you with Taylor in just a second. We will then get to our baseball expert. But Taylor, it's me against Chris again. Why don't you tell us what our game is today?
[25:31]
Greg Cody
Can we just address the elephant in the room first? The worst trivia we're coming off of.
[25:36]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God. I'm sorry. We embarrassed ourselves. We embarrassed our families. We embarrassed the name of the good people here at Meadowlark Media. But we want to be back. We want to be honest with the audience and transparent. If we're bad, we're gonna show you the bad. Yeah. And that was. That was the bad. Hopefully this is the good. Taylor, what is our game today?
[25:54]
Greg Cody
Big bounce back week. This is. We're going back to a game we'd played a couple weeks ago. Ball Knower trivia will alternate questions and if you miss, the other person has a chance to steal. Highest score at the end wins. It's five rounds. Five rounds of trivia.
[26:09]
Dan LeBatard
All right, this sucks. Let's do it.
[26:12]
Greg Cody
Jeremy, first question. After giving him a nine year, 214 million dollar contract, the Tigers traded Prince Fielder to this team after just two seasons.
[26:24]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Seasons.
[26:25]
Dan LeBatard
The answer is the Texas Rangers.
[26:27]
Greg Cody
That's one point. One point for Jeremy. That's it. Correct.
[26:29]
Dan LeBatard
All right, from the brewers to the Tigers to the Rangers. How about that one?
[26:33]
Greg Cody
Chris, your question. First round. After giving him a six year, 106 million dollar contract, the Marlins traded Jose Reyes to this team after just one season.
[26:45]
Dan LeBatard
That's like the most scarring thing that's ever happened to us. This guy knows good trivia. He knows how to ask the tough questions. Man, this is tough. I just really need to rack my brain about this. God, I hate you. Toronto Blue Jays.
[26:57]
Greg Cody
It's one one after one.
[26:59]
Dan LeBatard
Taylor, what is my second question?
[27:01]
Greg Cody
In 2010, this team had an opening day lineup that included Juan Rivera, Bobby Abreu and Hideki Matsui.
[27:11]
Dan LeBatard
I mean, I mean, you made that easy at the end. Yeah, I think. I think you made that easy. But it's. It's the New York Yankees.
[27:17]
Greg Cody
Incorrect. No. Chris Cody with the chance to steal. Jerk.
[27:22]
Dan LeBatard
You fully just led me into it and I let you do it. I didn't even second guess myself simply because Chris was like, oh, easy one, man. Bobby Abreu just. It just hit me. I know what it is. It's the Angels.
[27:34]
Greg Cody
Chris gets the steal.
[27:35]
Dan LeBatard
The series has started.
[27:36]
Greg Cody
Chris Cody. In 2014, this team had an opening day lineup that included Michael Kadire, DJ LeMayhue and Justin Morneau.
[27:46]
Dan LeBatard
Colorado Rockies.
[27:47]
Greg Cody
He sweeps the round three one after two.
[27:50]
Dan LeBatard
We are feeling it right now. This is heartbreaking. The. The stakes are way too high for getting the question wrong. And now we get to our 2025. MLB expert David Sampson is here with me. We're actually both on Zoom and I'm wearing glasses now, reading glasses to show the time has passed. Nonetheless, David, I wanted to bring you in today because Rafael Devers signed a 10 year, 315 million dollar contract with the Boston Red Sox in 2023 to extend in Boston as their third baseman. At the time, that was a $313 million deal. This offseason, the Red Sox sign Alex Bregman to a deal. And to Devers public dismay, Devers is moved to designated hitter from third base. He made public comments he didn't want to move, but eventually acquiesced. He moved to the designated hitter position. Now, just now, after a historically slow start to the season, Devers was finally starting to heat up. But Red Sox first baseman Tristan Casas goes down to an injury. And with him being out for the year, Devers was now asked to potentially play first base for the Boston Red Sox. And this is where everything has gone awry, because Devers publicly criticized the club for their decision making, including Craig Breslow, the Sox chief baseball officer, who, by the way, was hired 10 months after Rafael Dever signed his extension in Boston with then president Heim Blum. So. So those comments from Devers included, quote, I know I'm a ballplayer, but at the same time, they can't expect me to play every single position out there. In spring training, they talked to me and basically told me to put away my glove, that I wasn't going to play any other position but dh. So right now I just feel like it's not an appropriate decision by them to ask me to play another position. And finally, I'm not certain what issue he has with me, Dever said of Breslow, who played 12 Majors seasons in the majors himself, he played ball, and I would like to think that he knows that changing positions like that isn't easy. Your perspective comes from someone who worked as a president of business operations in Major League Baseball, where you have a deep investment in a player like Devers. And then you also have your president of baseball operations, who you've hired to do this job.
[30:20]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Job.
[30:20]
Dan LeBatard
They're at odds. Have you ever experienced anything like this? And what is your perspective about where things stand in this incredibly complicated story between Boston and Rafael Devers?
[30:31]
Stugotz
My job was to try to understand when there was a disagreement, how I can solve the disagreement where both parties believe that they have not been wronged. And to do it, you really have to know the people and understand the underlying facts. Let's talk about Rafi. This is a guy who was signed so everyone remembers when the Red Sox did not keep mookie bets.
[30:58]
Dan LeBatard
That's right.
[30:59]
Stugotz
And the Red Sox were finishing at the bottom after having won several World Series. The fan base was apoplectic and what the fan base did, what the media did, is they said, hey, we've got this guy, Rafi Devers. He's our guy. You better pay him. And so what John Henry, the owner of the Red Sox did is gave Devers a contract that the minute it was signed was going to be a problem because of the length and because of the size. What they could not have anticipated is what a selfish player Devers was going to become. The quotes that Devers gave were so bad that it forced the owner of the team to get on his jet and go to Kansas City and speak one on one to Devers and say, listen, what's going on here? For 313 million, if we want you to Dh, if we want you to play first, third, if we want you to be the team trainer, you've got to be in like Flynn. You've got to represent our brand, our team. You've got to be the leader. You've got the money, you've got the talent. We've got to get the results to do it. You've got to be with us. And every one of Dever's quotes would indicate that not only was Devers not going to play ball, and I mean that pun intended, but that he was going to take everyone down with him. But his teammates didn't want any part of that. His teammates were very critical of whatever said and what Des was representing. And therefore, you go in as president and you say to Devers, I need you. Forget the media, forget your quotes, forget the translator. I need you inside that clubhouse. I need you with your guys, I need you making sure that you're all rowing the same direction to try to get us to the top of the American League East.
[32:55]
Dan LeBatard
I just can't believe that the Red Sox didn't find a way to not have these quotes be the quotes that are floating around about their franchise from their star player. And there's a whole other conversation to be had about the fact that this all was done through a translator and how complicated that makes everything both in the locker room and out of the locker room. But it's time for us to end this part of this segment and move on. Now it's officially round three. I'm down three to one. Taylor, what's my question?
[33:24]
Greg Cody
Before moving into Citizens Bank park in 2004, the Philadelphia Phillies called this stadium home.
[33:32]
Dan LeBatard
I don't even know if I'm gonna have a guess. I. I have nothing for the. The. The Philly Dome. That's what I was gonna say.
[33:39]
Greg Cody
Yes, the Philly Dome is incorrect.
[33:43]
Dan LeBatard
Picture the Philly fanatic riding around on his little thing. But I. I don't know the name of it. I got nothing.
[33:49]
Greg Cody
It's Veteran Stadium. Chris Cody. Before moving into Target Field in 2010, the Minnesota Twins called this stadium home.
[33:58]
Dan LeBatard
You know, this one might. I can't remember. I can picture it.
[34:02]
Stugotz
I don't.
[34:03]
Dan LeBatard
I can picture it. Same boat as the last one.
[34:05]
Greg Cody
I don't remember.
[34:07]
Dan LeBatard
Before Target Field, they played at Clapperfield.
[34:11]
Greg Cody
Clapperfield is incorrect. Jeremy with the chance to steal.
[34:16]
Dan LeBatard
I don't have it. Taylor, tell me what it is so that I can get upset.
[34:19]
Greg Cody
It's the Metrodome.
[34:20]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, that one. That's obvious.
[34:23]
Greg Cody
That's on me, Jeremy. In 2000, the Marlins drafted this five time All Star first baseman first overall, although he would never play a game for them.
[34:35]
Dan LeBatard
Adrian Gonzalez.
[34:37]
Greg Cody
Okay. The guys know Fish.
[34:39]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. We know our Marlins history.
[34:43]
Greg Cody
In 1999, the Tampa Bay Rays would draft this five time All Star outfielder first overall, although he would never play a game for that.
[34:54]
Dan LeBatard
Like, did this guy. I feel like this guy played for them. The only reason I knew Adrian Gonzalez was because it's Marlin's history. There was no way. I'm. I'm getting a question. Never played for them. I mean, just traded as a prospect. So I'll go. Rocco Baldelli. But he played for them, right?
[35:11]
Greg Cody
Famously, yes.
[35:14]
Dan LeBatard
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Andrew McCutch.
[35:19]
Greg Cody
It is not Andrew McCutcheon. This player drafted in 99, made his MLB debut 2007, ran into some, some troubles. Josh Hamilton.
[35:30]
Dan LeBatard
Damn it, David. The Rockies are historically bad, but this team, through 40 games, 7 and 33, that's second worst record through 40 games in MLB history.
[35:43]
Stugotz
Listen, at some point you need better people choosing players, and that's the reality. I don't know how Bill Schmidt survives this.
[35:49]
Dan LeBatard
This.
[35:50]
Stugotz
I think that firing Bud Black and Mike Redmond, our old friend Mike, that's not really the answer. You're going to have to do better drafting better, developing better trades, better everything in order to get better players. We know that there can be winning teams in Colorado. We've seen it. And we know that there can be winning teams with bottom, you know, 10 payrolls. We've seen it. And so they just have to do it. But I will say this about Colorado is. I've got to believe they're up against something that, that you can't beat, and that is papal prayers. And I can only assume the Pope is praying the Rockies to lose 122. So no one talks about the White Sox anymore. And that is going to happen. So the Pope's prayers obviously get answered. And that is much to the chagrin of Rocky's fans.
[36:36]
Dan LeBatard
Hey, look, the first series that the Pope's White Sox played after he was named the Pope, they won two out of three against the Marlins. So they're headed the right direction with him in power. The visuals of him at the World Series in 2005 is just, it's completely mind blowing. It's like a break in the simulation. David, we've been, this is where we're going to wrap with you. We've been focusing. I've been, I've been referring to this as a golden era in Major league Baseball in terms of stardom. I just think that there are so many superstars all around the league that it's almost difficult to be able to pay attention to all of them at once. And so I've been having our guests pick a star amongst a few that I can name to kind of highlight here. So over the last week, some of the ones that have stood out to me, you've got Shohei Ohtani. Obviously, at any time we could talk about Shohei, but his, his late inning heroics have been cool and, and no one hits a late game home run in a cooler way than Shohei Ohtani. There's Pete Gro Armstrong in Chicago who has just been spectacular about him on both sides of the ball. Well, and the last one I'll name will be Kyle Schwaber, who weirdly enough might be having the best season of his entire career in a contract year here as they struggle. So Pete Crowe, Armstrong, it seems like he's the guy you want to focus on here. He's spectacular.
[37:55]
Stugotz
Here's the thing that he does well, everything, it's amazing. And he's doing it on a team now. He's got good protection. The Cubs are a fantastic offensive team, but don't Forget he's only 23 years old, but he's someone you should be watching. The Cubs team is a team that you should be watching in that A, they're fun to watch and B, even losing their best pitcher, which they lost to injury, Justin Steele, they have found a way. And it's early still, but it's getting later, but it is still early.
[38:22]
Dan LeBatard
David, thank you for highlighting part of it here. I know we spent a lot of time on transaction stuff when it comes to Rafael Devers, but that's why we appreciate your expertise. Thank you very Much. And now it is time to get back to the competition between myself and Chris.
[38:36]
Greg Cody
The Rays all time strikeout leader is this pitcher who pitched seven seasons with the franchise from 2006 to 2012.
[38:46]
Dan LeBatard
I think it's Jamie Shields. Does he have to say his name right to get it right? James Shields.
[38:51]
Greg Cody
Okay, locking it in.
[38:55]
Dan LeBatard
You just gave me the answer. If you're wrong, I'm gonna say it's James Shields and I'm locking it in.
[39:01]
Greg Cody
We're Todd. Going into Chris Cody's question, I thought it was.
[39:05]
Dan LeBatard
I knew it was James Shields. That's who I was thinking. Okay.
[39:09]
Greg Cody
He said Jamie Shields. I was not gonna give.
[39:11]
Dan LeBatard
Why did I say no? Are you kidding? Come on.
[39:14]
Mike Ryan
I.
[39:14]
Dan LeBatard
All right. Also let's Ethan get on it some. At some point in his career, they called him Jamie Shields. I promise he's talking to Jamie Moore. No, I'm not. That. He shouldn't say anything. Why would I be thinking of Jamie Moyer? I know the difference between Jamie Moyer and James Shields. How can you look. Baseball reference has Jamie listed as a nickname for James. Wow. Okay, let me see that. I don't believe it. All right, fine.
[39:35]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I believe.
[39:35]
Dan LeBatard
I hope you.
[39:36]
Greg Cody
I believe it either. Jamie.
[39:37]
Dan LeBatard
I'm gone. I'm staring you. I'm right here. LeBron. LeBron stare as you get this question.
[39:42]
Greg Cody
The brewers all time strikeout leader is this pitcher who pitched eight seasons with the franchise from 2007 to 2014.
[39:53]
Dan LeBatard
I mean, there's obviously like a famous pit here for them that war is had a certain way. Wait, was he traded from the. I don't know, the Cleveland team to the. I don't know, brewers or was he traded from the brewers to the. I'm not sure. Cleveland team? I can't. I can't remember. I definitely thinking of the right person. I definitely can't remember. Wait on that one. I just thought of it. It's not that guy at all. It's not CC Sabathia. It's not. You want me to guess him? So you said Sheets. Final answer.
[40:24]
Greg Cody
Ben Sheets is incorrect. Jeremy with the chance to steal and win.
[40:29]
Dan LeBatard
It's like the pressure of this is really making every player who ever played disappear in my brain. Longest pitch clock ever. Michael Brantley was a player to be named later in the CC Sabathia trade from the Guardians to the.
[40:43]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Ethan just.
[40:44]
Dan LeBatard
Ethan just distracted my line of thinking with a fun fact about my hell was that Ethan? What am I thinking about the brewers pitchers from 2007 to 2014. Helpful nugget. Helpful Nugget, it's over. Just send us to overtime. Who was the pitcher?
[40:59]
Greg Cody
The pitcher? Yovani Gallardo.
[41:01]
Dan LeBatard
No, I wasn't going to get that. I remember he had a day though. He had a cup of coffee, obviously.
[41:06]
Greg Cody
Okay, so the tiebreaker. You guys are going to write down your guess. Whoever's closer to the actual number is the winner.
[41:14]
Dan LeBatard
Love it.
[41:14]
Greg Cody
Derek Jeter, Regular season home runs.
[41:18]
Dan LeBatard
I have my guess ready. But I, I.
[41:21]
Greg Cody
You haven't written down.
[41:21]
Dan LeBatard
I haven't. I don't. I don't feel confident. Yeah, I don't feel good about this.
[41:26]
Greg Cody
Jeremy, you reveal your number first and then I'll see how close it was.
[41:30]
Dan LeBatard
10 down.
[41:30]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I have a number here.
[41:32]
Dan LeBatard
One number. There's another number clearly crossed out. My number is 300. 287 is my guess.
[41:38]
Greg Cody
287. Chris Cody. Jeremy. 300.
[41:41]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
[41:43]
Greg Cody
Two unbelievable guesses, all things considered. 260. Chris Cody.
[41:50]
Dan LeBatard
What a switch. By me. What a switch. The gut. The gut. This thing's big. It said, hey, guys. Too many. You put too many. At least after one of the worst games we've ever played last week. This was a thriller. We are back, Taylor. Alright, so here's something interesting. Did you know that sleep actually is really important to recovery? I mean, who knew, right? And everyone needs something different from their bed. Which is why sleep number makes these smart beds that let you adjust each side to the firmness you want. Kind of perfect for couples that can't agree on anything. They've even partnered with the NFL since 2018. 80% of NFL players sleep on a sleep number smart bed. So yeah, there's a reason these things are popular. They've got beds that cool you down up to 15 degrees cooler on either side to help you sleep better. Especially if you're someone who wakes up sweating like you just ran wind sprints in your dreams. The bed also responds to your movements and adjusts as you sleep, which is wild. Why choose sleep number smart bed. So you can choose your ideal comfort on either side. And now it's the sleep number everything Smart bed single sale. Every smart bed and base are on sale during our Memorial Day event. Up to 50 off limited time. Exclusively at a sleep number store near you. See store or sleepnumber.com for details.

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 2: Have a Gold Day (feat. Roz Gold-Onwude)

Release Date: May 15, 2025

Introduction of Roz Gold-Onwude

At [01:10], Dan Le Batard and Stugotz welcome Roz Gold-Onwude to the show. Roz, an Emmy-winning broadcaster and New York Liberty analyst, joins the hosts to provide her insights on sports and the WNBA.

Dan LeBatard: “I’ve never met Roz. I’m Jonathan Zaslow. Hi. Nice to meet you.”
Roz Gold-Onwude: “Hey, what’s up? I’m Roz.”

Championship Rings for Broadcasters

The conversation kicks off with a playful debate about whether broadcasters deserve championship rings.

Dan LeBatard (02:28): “Roz, the question is, if you cover a team and you win a championship, do you get to call yourself a champion?”
Roz Gold-Onwude (02:42): “I think the players and the coaching staff get to be the champions. But if the organization is classy, they might give you a ring.”
Dan LeBatard (04:00): “I keep them in a really, really fancy case... I wear one of them at events.”

The hosts humorously discuss the tiers of championship rings, emphasizing the distinction between players and supporting staff.

Roz’s Role and Passion for the New York Liberty

Roz shares her journey and deep-rooted connection with New York basketball and the Liberty.

Roz Gold-Onwude (08:27): “I’m going to lead with the New York Liberty. These are the reigning champions... My mother took me to see New York Liberty games, and when they finally won, it meant so much to me on a personal level.”

She expresses excitement about her role as a full-time color analyst and her anticipation for the Knicks' postseason.

Roz Gold-Onwude (09:36): “I am a New York Knicks fan, born and bred. I cannot wait... ready to be in the streets with the people just out there going.”

The Cultural Significance of New York Basketball

Roz delves into the cultural impact of basketball in New York, contrasting it with other sports.

Roz Gold-Onwude (10:24): “New York basketball is culture... Even at the park across the street from my house... Hoops was such a big part of the culture.”

She highlights the vibrant street basketball scene and its evolution into professional leagues, emphasizing the passion and authenticity of the WNBA.

Roz Gold-Onwude (11:30): “The Liberty could run this thing back. They are so deep in talent.”

Good or Gold Game

The segment features a lighthearted game where Roz evaluates sports scenarios as "Good" or "Gold."

Mike Ryan (16:05): “The Indiana Fever are clear favorites. Good or gold?”
Roz Gold-Onwude (16:15): “Good.”

The game fosters playful banter among the hosts, showcasing their chemistry and Roz’s deep knowledge of the WNBA.

Roz Gold-Onwude (20:41): “Guys, have a gold day.”

Pitch Clock: Baseball Trivia and Discussion

Transitioning to baseball, Dan, Greg Cody, and Mike Ryan engage in a trivia game segment called "Pitch Clock," featuring questions about MLB history and player transactions.

Dan LeBatard (25:31): “Can we just address the elephant in the room first? The worst trivia we’re coming off of.”

Despite initial struggles, the hosts attempt to answer challenging questions, highlighting their camaraderie and competitive spirit.

Analysis with MLB Expert David Sampson

During the Pitch Clock segment, MLB expert David Sampson joins via Zoom to discuss Rafael Devers' tumultuous relationship with the Boston Red Sox.

Dan LeBatard (27:01): “Rafael Devers publicly criticized the club for moving him to designated hitter and potentially to first base...”
David Sampson (30:31): “Rafael Devers signed a 10-year, $315 million contract, but his public comments indicated discontent with position changes and the organization’s decisions.”

Sampson provides insights into the behind-the-scenes dynamics, emphasizing the challenges of managing star players and maintaining team cohesion.

David Sampson (32:55): “His teammates were very critical of whatever Devers was representing. The owner had to personally intervene to address Devers’ comments and ensure his alignment with the team’s goals.”

The discussion underscores the complexities of player-team relationships and the impact of high-stakes contracts on team dynamics.

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with continued light-hearted interactions among the hosts, reinforcing the blend of serious sports analysis and entertaining banter that characterizes "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz."

Roz Gold-Onwude (20:41): “Guys, have a gold day.”

Notable Quotes

Roz Gold-Onwude (08:27): “I have a big heart.”
Roz Gold-Onwude (10:24): “We went to park tournaments... Hoops was such a big part of the culture.”
David Sampson (32:55): “I need you inside that clubhouse. I need you with your guys… to get us to the top of the American League East.”
Roz Gold-Onwude (20:41): “Guys, have a gold day.”

Key Takeaways

Roz Gold-Onwude's Expertise: Roz brings a wealth of experience and passion for the WNBA, particularly the New York Liberty, offering listeners deep insights into the team's dynamics and the cultural significance of basketball in New York.
Championship Rings Debate: The discussion on the value and distribution of championship rings highlights the evolving roles of broadcasters within sports organizations.
Player-Team Dynamics: The analysis with David Sampson sheds light on the challenges teams face in managing star players, especially concerning high-value contracts and positional changes.
Engaging Segments: The blend of serious analysis with playful segments like "Good or Gold" and "Pitch Clock" provides a balanced and entertaining listening experience.

This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" offers a comprehensive exploration of sports dynamics, enriched by Roz Gold-Onwude's expertise and the hosts' engaging interactions. Whether discussing the nuances of championship rings or the intricate relationships within baseball teams, the show delivers insightful content wrapped in entertaining dialogue.

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[00:47]
Dan LeBatard
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[01:10]
Mike Ryan
Can she hear us?
[01:11]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Hi.
[01:12]
Mike Ryan
Hello. Do you know everyone here?
[01:14]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I don't know everybody.
[01:16]
Dan LeBatard
I've never met Ross. I'm Jonathan Zaslow. Hi. Nice to meet you.
[01:19]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Hey, what's up? I'm Roz.
[01:21]
Mike Ryan
You're. You're welcome to call him bloated Stugats if you like. On first reference.
[01:26]
Greg Cody
He's not more bloated than St. Gatz.
[01:28]
Mike Ryan
Okay.
[01:29]
Dan LeBatard
They're equally bloated.
[01:30]
Greg Cody
No, Stugatz is more bloated than.
[01:31]
Dan LeBatard
You guys are doing a nostalgia thing, remembering stugats from another time.
[01:34]
Greg Cody
This is like very, very heavy now for his, like, precedent.
[01:39]
Mike Ryan
We've already started. As you can tell. Greg, your son was telling me not to start, but we've already started. We are introducing Ross Gold on Wu Day to some in our audience. Even though many of you should know she's an Emmy winning broadcaster and New York Liberty analyst. And if you've been following, follow in our feed. You should follow, listen and subscribe on Instagram, TikTok and YouTube because she is covering stuff for Metal ARC Media and DraftKings in a way that's super strong. I really don't know though, I mean, where to start with her because you've got the WNBA season starting tomorrow. She worked for the warriors and, and she knows how New York is feeling right now too.
[02:18]
Dan LeBatard
We gotta start with rings because Roz won with the warriors and she Won with the Liberty. She is in the rings club along.
[02:25]
Roz Gold-Onwude
With me, and my teams win. There you go.
[02:28]
Dan LeBatard
So, Ro, good to have you on the team. Roz. The question is, if you cover a team and you win a championship, that team wins a championship. Do you get to call yourself a champion?
[02:42]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Ooh, I think the. The players and, you know, the coaching staff get to be the champions. But if the organization is classy, has that, you know, extra bag, that extra money, they might give you a ring. But I do try to draw the line like I cover a championship team. I work with the championship team. I got rings for all the warriors championships I was with, and we'll see if I get one for the Liberty.
[03:06]
Mike Ryan
I don't know what that ruling is. Judge Zaslow, because Zaslo is a two time, award winning, but ring winning champion with the Miami Heat because he was on the pregame, postgame show. He got the same ring that all the great broadcasters did.
[03:18]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. So I don't think Amin presented it very well to you, Roz, because he's saying if you covered a championship. I didn't cover a champion championship. To Miami Heat team. I did not cover them. I was on the broadcast and so I was given rings. That's why, Roz, I am a two time. Not once. The Heat won two years in a row. I'm a two time champion broadcaster.
[03:42]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Listen, I like that, like, line in the sand. You work for the organization, which I've done too. So I guess, like, you're part of a championship organization and everyone within it gets to be a champ.
[03:54]
Mike Ryan
No, you're being. No, you're being too nice. No, no. She's asking the question that should a.
[03:58]
Roz Gold-Onwude
What do you do with your rings? Like, do you wear them?
[04:01]
Dan LeBatard
That's a very good question, Roz. Thank you for asking. I keep them in a really, really fancy case on my dresser in the master bedroom of the Zaslow mansion. And when I go to a very nice event, like, say a wedding, like I did a couple of weeks ago, I put one of those babies on. Not both of them, Ross, because that would be super gaudy. But I wear one of them.
[04:24]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Class only class.
[04:26]
Mike Ryan
And if his house was on fire, it'd be the only thing he'd go in to get.
[04:30]
Dan LeBatard
Well, yeah, because my kids and my wife have legs, so you gotta go.
[04:34]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Back and help the helpless ring. It also is a nice conversation starter. Like, maybe I should start wearing.
[04:39]
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
[04:40]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Okay, listen.
[04:41]
Dan LeBatard
Zaz's ring is made out of tin foil and it leaves his finger green. He has the D list ring. Roz, I want to ask you something, because this has been in my crawl for a while. For me, they give out too many championship rings. The people who deserve them, you, the athlete and the coaching staff and maybe a select few others deserve championship rings for winning at all. When you start giving them to broadcasters and others like that, don't you think that it demeans the championship ring a little bit? Not at all.
[05:10]
Roz Gold-Onwude
And there's also tiers of rings. I'm very proud of the time I spent covering the warriors during. Especially during, like, that time. It was, you know, the peak of, like, dynasty era. I was there for the very, very first. I worked my way up from the Santa Cruz warriors, their D, their G League team, came in for the first year of Steph and Steve Kerr. Everything popped off right there and then. Like, I saw them go from this innocent group of, like, guys who were excited to get past the second round to, like, literal superstars and along. And my last year with them was the Kevin Durant championship ring year, and there's tears. So it's the big Mama Jama rings, like that cover hand for the players and staff.
[05:51]
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
[05:52]
Roz Gold-Onwude
And I remember, I think there were two tiers after that. There was one that was smaller but still diamond covered for other supportive staff members, and then another tier where I don't think it was like, as diamond covered, but it was still metal. That went to, like, another tier of staff.
[06:09]
Mike Ryan
Well, but this is the thing.
[06:10]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Middle tier.
[06:11]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, this is the thing that's happening, though. Cody's accusing Zaz of having a tinfoil tier, and Zaz is saying, no, I've got the middle tier.
[06:19]
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Tinfoil is a metal.
[06:21]
Roz Gold-Onwude
No, no, that's giving. Middle tier.
[06:23]
Dan LeBatard
Take a look at that. Those are. Those are my rings.
[06:25]
Mike Ryan
Middle. That's middle. Not metal. Middle tier, not metal.
[06:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Did you get a certificate of authenticity and an evaluation of price? Because mine came with that.
[06:35]
Dan LeBatard
I have a certificate of authenticity, but I don't have evaluation of price.
[06:39]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I have that. I have the box with the spinner and the lights that show it. I mean, is your name on the ring? Of course.
[06:45]
Dan LeBatard
Yes. You're right. Of course, Roz. Of course. Yeah.
[06:48]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Respectfully, sorry, I didn't mean to insult with that question, but do you have box? Well, that was. Who did yours? We had Jacob the jeweler, I believe at the time.
[06:57]
Dan LeBatard
Maybe Jacob was busy. I. I don't recall that name. But. But the name of the jeweler is on the box. Yes. Maybe I'll take a picture when I get home.
[07:04]
Stugotz
Today, Acme is the name.
[07:06]
Mike Ryan
How do.
[07:09]
Dan LeBatard
Acme.
[07:11]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Acme is crazy. Like in the cartoons.
[07:18]
Dan LeBatard
Forks. Acme jewelers. The Roadrunner exploding with a stick of dynamite.
[07:25]
Mike Ryan
Oh my.
[07:25]
Dan LeBatard
From the Acme explosives. So dynamite.
[07:28]
Roz Gold-Onwude
You got your. Don't let these people. Ask them where I'm not.
[07:31]
Dan LeBatard
Rap. Nowhere. Nowhere. They're nowhere. We'll be looking forever if I ask them where theirs are.
[07:37]
Roz Gold-Onwude
If you want a more, a less gaudy place to rock your ring because I feel like the hand is a little. It's big and it's gaudy. You can make a chain and wear it as a necklace. And like I, maybe that only works for girls, but I think like, that's a cute way to like make use of the ring. Otherwise I've never, I've never ever once wore the rings. They're just both in the box. Safely in a safe box, as we mentioned.
[07:58]
Mike Ryan
And congratulations. This week they officially announced you're returning as full time color analyst for the championship winning New York Liberty. And when, when it, when it relates today to the things that you're most excited about or talking about in sports, is it your. The way that Golden State loses because you worked for them? The way that New York is feeling because New York and Boston is at the top of the sport, or is it the beginning of the WNBA draft? That's your employer? That's the thing that you're excited about?
[08:28]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I think all things New York. I'm going to lead with the New York Liberty. These are the reigning champions. I had the pleasure of covering them last season for about half the season, about half the games. Last year we doubled down. This season I am their full time color analyst. I'm from New York. I remember when the WNBA started. I'm from Queens. My mother took me to go see New York Liberty games. 28 years the league existed, they never won a championship and they finally won one last season. It meant so much to me on like a personal level. And my mother's sick and you know, completely out of it with like Alzheimer's and stuff. I wish she could really know what's going on and that her daughter was there. I got to host the championship parade at City Hall. I just kept thinking about my mom who changed my whole life through basket and so I'm very, I love this team. I'm very thankful to be around them. We'll see if I get a ring for my 15 or so games of coverage last season. I don't know, but I'm really just excited either way. I'm excited for My Brooklyn summer. I'm going to have a full time Brooklyn summer. And in connection to the Knicks, interestingly enough, I know the Liberty are owned by the owners of the Nets. The Brooklyn Nets. I am a New York Knicks fan, born and bred. It's in my blood. But respectfully, coming to New York to cover the New York Liberty, I leave at the end of the month should hopefully coincide with the Knicks being in the Eastern Conference finals, on their way to the finals. And I'm gonna be all in the mix of it. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. New York might explode if the Knicks, like, it's just, I'm ready to be in the streets with the people just out there going.
[10:07]
Mike Ryan
It's sort of hard to explain. I was trying to do it through Hank Azaria yesterday. It's hard to explain to people what basketball in New York means. That makes it different culturally than baseball, than football, than hockey, than any of it.
[10:25]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I got some answers. So New York basketball is culture, right? So, like, the way I came up in New York basketball, honestly, early on, my concept wasn't like, I'm going to the Garden to watch a Knicks game. That was something that was so outside of my stratosphere growing up. You know, lower class, poor. In Queens, ball was. We went to park tournaments at Kenny Anderson and Left Rack City, or we were at Kingdome or Dyckman or, you know, just street tournaments, Rucker Park. And it was holding your own. And at any level, there was so much respect for anyone who could hold their own. Like, even at the park across the street from my house at PS206. Like, Hoops was such a big part of the culture and we had such huge stars coming out, huge names like New York was, the basketball factory has fallen off since. But like, people you followed and you took pride in. In my generation, it was like Sebastian Telfair and things like that. And the women's basketball had some big names, too. Epiphany Prince. So, like, that's how much the game is loved at all levels. Imagine now you're talking about at the pros. And New York Knicks is, you know, the bloodline of it. The Nets got there later to Brooklyn, and that's exciting as an alternative. But when the Liberty won the championship this summer, after they won, Brooklyn was alive. People were in the streets. Police cars drove by, honked their horns at us. People were playing music in the streets, like dancing with each other. All sorts of music. Everything from Soca to Bad Bunny to hip hop to this and that. And it was so Exciting. Like if the Knicks do it, I'm actually afraid for safety. Like it might be a riot.
[12:08]
Mike Ryan
Well, it's a good thing they're not going to do it and your Brooklyn summer's gonna be ruined the way that all the Knicks, all the Knicks seasons end in heartbreak. Obviously.
[12:16]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I was happy for the Celtics to have a nice emotional win there. Like, you know, that was a pride win. And as a Knicks fan, I was, I was happy for them. You know, I'm not all, I'm not cruel. I have a big heart.
[12:27]
Mike Ryan
They can beat you, though. They can. I don't.
[12:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
No, no, no, no, no, no. I thought that was very nice for all of those nice role players to play outside themselves. Cornet shooting a bunch of threes. They're at home. It's exciting.
[12:39]
Dan LeBatard
Let's go back to.
[12:40]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Let's.
[12:40]
Dan LeBatard
A role player. Yeah.
[12:42]
Greg Cody
No, he's a star.
[12:43]
Stugotz
He's a star.
[12:43]
Dan LeBatard
He's a star. He's a star.
[12:45]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I really, really.
[12:47]
Dan LeBatard
You heard that dance star.
[12:48]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I really like Derrick White and I can go on a, on a tangent on like an important player to winning. But when they play the Knicks, I got a little, you know, a little cute there, but I thought I was happy for them to have that moment in honor of Jayson Tatum in Boston. And now let's go to New York and finish things up and move along. So.
[13:07]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, Roz, we've known each other a long time. I've told you all along that you bury the fact that you, I don't feel like you promote enough, that you were a high level player, you played at Stanford for four years, you're all defensive team and played for Nigeria, the national team. And you are a Hooper first and foremost before you broadcast. But I did want to ask you, you know, as we see the game has grown considerably on the women's side. How do you compare kind of playing against the elite players of your era versus the elite players today?
[13:38]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Well, I think, you know, look, there's a number of players that I played with and against that are still in the league now. So it's not that far off like, you know, your Neca Igwumikes, you know. But those are the veteran vets, the Skyler Diggins. Now like those are the vets of the league, but they're still the dominant in this league. I wouldn't say so much from when I played to what's happening now that there's such a difference in the quality to play. I would just say there's such a difference in the Investment and eyeballs and attendance and engagement with the league. And I also think that the league on a whole is much more authentic. Right. Like, everybody's. Instead of, like, trying to present the nice girls of the wnba, everybody's leaning into who they are. We got villains. We got all types of gen sexuality. We got all types of, like, femininity styles. We got different ways to show power and beauty. We got storylines, things that. That carried over from college to the wnba. You know, very captivating stars. Like, of course, Caitlin Clark is leading the way as far as eyeballs and attention. Angel Reese also has a captivated audience, and those are young stars that also lived up to the hype. Like the basketball product lived up to the hype and. And then players who. Like. I'm excited to see more of Asia Wilson. I think Nafisa Collier coming off of unrivaled in Miami with y' all might have established herself as the next favorite for best player in the world. And with the Liberty, like, you gotta check out Sabrina Unescu and Brianna Stewart, Jonquill Jones, like, the Liberty could run this thing back. They really could. They are so deep in talent. So.
[15:18]
Mike Ryan
All right.
[15:19]
Roz Gold-Onwude
But there's a lot. There's a lot of competition. It's a lot of parody in the league. So the difference is the attention. The attention and investment.
[15:25]
Mike Ryan
She's an incredible homer. Bought and paid for by all things New York and Liberty. Clearly not a journalist of any kind. She's a homer saying, they're going to Hooper. She works for the team, wants a Brooklyn summer and wants a ring for 15 games.
[15:41]
Dan LeBatard
15 real ring.
[15:42]
Mike Ryan
Zasla wasn't 15 games. It was midnight. It was waking up at 6am he wasn't doing 15 games for the Liberty.
[15:48]
Dan LeBatard
He was 12:30, though.
[15:50]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Out of 30 last season. Mind you, these seasons are different lengths.
[15:53]
Mike Ryan
Are you ready to play a new game where you're the judge? Because we've got judge Zaz here. But we are. We want from you. You're the judge.
[16:01]
Dan LeBatard
This is.
[16:01]
Mike Ryan
This is either good or gold. Okay. Good or gold.
[16:05]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Oh, I love it.
[16:06]
Mike Ryan
The lost Vegas aces are clear favorites. Good or gold.
[16:13]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Is the good, the bad.
[16:15]
Dan LeBatard
I think gold's just better, right? I wondered the same thing when I saw it on the. She has a good or gold with what's good and what's bad? I don't know.
[16:24]
Mike Ryan
Am I playing the game incorrectly?
[16:25]
Dan LeBatard
No, I think the game as presented to you by whoever came up with it. I'm not gonna name his name. Not really a great game.
[16:30]
Mike Ryan
All right. Good or Gold. The Indiana Fever are clear favorites.
[16:37]
Roz Gold-Onwude
No, that's just good.
[16:43]
Dan LeBatard
You're playing it right, Roz.
[16:44]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Just saying.
[16:45]
Dan LeBatard
No, that's how you play the game.
[16:46]
Greg Cody
I see the flaw.
[16:47]
Mike Ryan
No, I know.
[16:48]
Dan LeBatard
Good is like if it's. If it's no, that's good. If it's yes, that's gold.
[16:52]
Greg Cody
See, that's the flaw.
[16:53]
Dan LeBatard
Ross, you're playing the game right. Just say.
[16:55]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Just say yes or no winner in this game. So I just want to come back to the Aces. I expect them to be a lot better than last season. The Asia Wilson is rested. Yeah. Since you guys are Miami fans, you might have noticed that she hard launched her love and relationship with Bam Adebayo. She's happy. She launched her sneaker. She took time away from ball. Like, I think that's key. And then also Chelsea Gray crushed unrivaled in Miami, won the championship, won the mvp, the finals mvp. I think they're coming back rejuvenated. I think that's a good answer. It's not gold because I still think the favorites are the New York Liberty Fever. Same thing. They have ramped up the talent and the amount of support around Caitlin Clark and, you know, Aaliyah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell as their core big three. But they got all these vets. They're going to have to mesh. They got to get it together. But I think they could contend.
[17:45]
Dan LeBatard
Roz.
[17:46]
Roz Gold-Onwude
But they are not gold.
[17:47]
Dan LeBatard
Roz, how's Asia going to feel about Milwaukee?
[17:51]
Mike Ryan
That's a different game.
[17:53]
Roz Gold-Onwude
What you mean good or gold? Like if there's moves. If there's moves.
[18:00]
Greg Cody
Little Greeky, he's not coming to 305.
[18:02]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I'm one of those girlies that believe, you know, you support. You support your man. So pj, okay, he has to make a move, you know, then that's what she'll be. But Miami is, you know, a sweet life.
[18:11]
Mike Ryan
Good or gold? Asia Wilson is better than Bam Adebayo.
[18:18]
Roz Gold-Onwude
She's more decorated, I think. Is she more. Yes, she's more decorated. You know what's funny? They actually have very similar games. Are y' all familiar enough with Asia's game to be able to.
[18:30]
Greg Cody
I know for a fact she. She's like one of the top players in the league, if not the top player in the league. And that is certainly not Bam.
[18:35]
Dan LeBatard
Multiple, multiple time. Mvp.
[18:37]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Fair. But stylistically, interestingly enough, they both are two way players who continue to add offensive to their game. Asia might be. You could depend on Asia more for offensive production, but they both lock down. They're both like, got good athleticism.
[18:54]
Dan LeBatard
This feels like a gold.
[18:55]
Greg Cody
This is a gold. Come on. Why are we being so.
[18:57]
Dan LeBatard
Why do we have it so nice? Which one is that again?
[19:00]
Greg Cody
That's like the.
[19:00]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Wait. Asia's better than. Bam. I'll give that a goal.
[19:03]
Dan LeBatard
I'll give that a goal.
[19:03]
Mike Ryan
You know what? I think I'm going to tell everybody right now. You watch Good. Follow on the DraftKings network. She is great. Wednesday, 7:00pm Eastern, 4:00pm Pacific. Pacific. But in order to speed this up a little bit, okay, let's just make it good or gold. No context. Okay?
[19:18]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Okay.
[19:19]
Mike Ryan
Becky Hammond will ultimately leave the Aces to be head coach of the Spurs. Good or gold?
[19:25]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Good.
[19:26]
Mike Ryan
Nafisa Collier.
[19:27]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Also shout out to Mitch Johnson, Stanford University. We both played on the basketball programs, men's and women's, at the same time. Shout out to Mitch Johnson, new head coach of the Spurs.
[19:36]
Mike Ryan
I was not expecting a shout out there. It gets in the way of my very vigorous. Good or gold? Nafisa Collier wins a title with the Links before she wins an unrivaled championship. Good or gold?
[19:48]
Dan LeBatard
Gold.
[19:51]
Mike Ryan
Golden State will make the playoffs in their inaugural season.
[19:55]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Oh, good.
[19:57]
Dan LeBatard
No, it's a weird game.
[19:58]
Greg Cody
It's a bad game.
[19:59]
Mike Ryan
It's a bad game. She feel very good. We're very good.
[20:04]
Greg Cody
Look, I am angry.
[20:05]
Dan LeBatard
And this game was good. She's gold.
[20:08]
Mike Ryan
Was this Billy? Was this. Is this a remnant from Wild Billy Wednesday?
[20:13]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Who made this game?
[20:14]
Mike Ryan
Yes. Who made the excellent work by you, Ross. Thank you for being on with us. Good. This is disgusting.
[20:19]
Dan LeBatard
This is. What game?
[20:20]
Mike Ryan
Is this.
[20:22]
Greg Cody
A good one?
[20:23]
Mike Ryan
It's not a good one.
[20:24]
Dan LeBatard
It's not Good old one with that gold. It's not a gold one. Goldfollow.
[20:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Guys, it was a pleasure.
[20:30]
Mike Ryan
Was it? Was it though, with this game? Was it? We ruined it. Look, this woman is so much better than our games.
[20:36]
Greg Cody
I am leaving here in a worse mood than I walked in.
[20:39]
Dan LeBatard
I did.
[20:39]
Roz Gold-Onwude
What?
[20:39]
Greg Cody
Dude, no.
[20:41]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Guys, have a gold day.
[20:42]
Mike Ryan
Thank you.
[20:44]
Dan LeBatard
That's good. That's how you play the game.
[20:46]
Greg Cody
If you got the game better, then maybe it would have worked. I don't know.
[20:49]
Dan LeBatard
But it's a bad.
[20:49]
Greg Cody
Well, it's a good game.
[20:50]
Dan LeBatard
Damn. We're still on it.
[20:51]
Mike Ryan
Sabrina goes out as an all time great this year. Good or gold?
[20:55]
Dan LeBatard
Gold.
[20:56]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Sabrina Oneescu gold.
[20:57]
Dan LeBatard
Pitch clock. Next.
[21:04]
Roz Gold-Onwude
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[22:10]
Dan LeBatard
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[22:29]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Food?
[22:30]
Dan LeBatard
Check. Flea stuff? Check.
[22:31]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Toys?
[22:32]
Dan LeBatard
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[23:24]
Greg Cody
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[24:31]
Mike Ryan
Don LeBatard.
[24:32]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, very. Imagine if someone told you you couldn't have a Corvette. Stugats. I'm a grown ass man who's not. Who's not filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini. Well, I probably can, but that's. Hey. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch. A two part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock. Hey, fans of the Pitch Clock, there's another voice you're about to hear. Hi. Over, buddy. There it is. We're back. Yeah. Pitch Clock, we're here. It's another week of our baseball trivia coming at you with Taylor in just a second. We will then get to our baseball expert. But Taylor, it's me against Chris again. Why don't you tell us what our game is today?
[25:31]
Greg Cody
Can we just address the elephant in the room first? The worst trivia we're coming off of.
[25:36]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God. I'm sorry. We embarrassed ourselves. We embarrassed our families. We embarrassed the name of the good people here at Meadowlark Media. But we want to be back. We want to be honest with the audience and transparent. If we're bad, we're gonna show you the bad. Yeah. And that was. That was the bad. Hopefully this is the good. Taylor, what is our game today?
[25:54]
Greg Cody
Big bounce back week. This is. We're going back to a game we'd played a couple weeks ago. Ball Knower trivia will alternate questions and if you miss, the other person has a chance to steal. Highest score at the end wins. It's five rounds. Five rounds of trivia.
[26:09]
Dan LeBatard
All right, this sucks. Let's do it.
[26:12]
Greg Cody
Jeremy, first question. After giving him a nine year, 214 million dollar contract, the Tigers traded Prince Fielder to this team after just two seasons.
[26:24]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Seasons.
[26:25]
Dan LeBatard
The answer is the Texas Rangers.
[26:27]
Greg Cody
That's one point. One point for Jeremy. That's it. Correct.
[26:29]
Dan LeBatard
All right, from the brewers to the Tigers to the Rangers. How about that one?
[26:33]
Greg Cody
Chris, your question. First round. After giving him a six year, 106 million dollar contract, the Marlins traded Jose Reyes to this team after just one season.
[26:45]
Dan LeBatard
That's like the most scarring thing that's ever happened to us. This guy knows good trivia. He knows how to ask the tough questions. Man, this is tough. I just really need to rack my brain about this. God, I hate you. Toronto Blue Jays.
[26:57]
Greg Cody
It's one one after one.
[26:59]
Dan LeBatard
Taylor, what is my second question?
[27:01]
Greg Cody
In 2010, this team had an opening day lineup that included Juan Rivera, Bobby Abreu and Hideki Matsui.
[27:11]
Dan LeBatard
I mean, I mean, you made that easy at the end. Yeah, I think. I think you made that easy. But it's. It's the New York Yankees.
[27:17]
Greg Cody
Incorrect. No. Chris Cody with the chance to steal. Jerk.
[27:22]
Dan LeBatard
You fully just led me into it and I let you do it. I didn't even second guess myself simply because Chris was like, oh, easy one, man. Bobby Abreu just. It just hit me. I know what it is. It's the Angels.
[27:34]
Greg Cody
Chris gets the steal.
[27:35]
Dan LeBatard
The series has started.
[27:36]
Greg Cody
Chris Cody. In 2014, this team had an opening day lineup that included Michael Kadire, DJ LeMayhue and Justin Morneau.
[27:46]
Dan LeBatard
Colorado Rockies.
[27:47]
Greg Cody
He sweeps the round three one after two.
[27:50]
Dan LeBatard
We are feeling it right now. This is heartbreaking. The. The stakes are way too high for getting the question wrong. And now we get to our 2025. MLB expert David Sampson is here with me. We're actually both on Zoom and I'm wearing glasses now, reading glasses to show the time has passed. Nonetheless, David, I wanted to bring you in today because Rafael Devers signed a 10 year, 315 million dollar contract with the Boston Red Sox in 2023 to extend in Boston as their third baseman. At the time, that was a $313 million deal. This offseason, the Red Sox sign Alex Bregman to a deal. And to Devers public dismay, Devers is moved to designated hitter from third base. He made public comments he didn't want to move, but eventually acquiesced. He moved to the designated hitter position. Now, just now, after a historically slow start to the season, Devers was finally starting to heat up. But Red Sox first baseman Tristan Casas goes down to an injury. And with him being out for the year, Devers was now asked to potentially play first base for the Boston Red Sox. And this is where everything has gone awry, because Devers publicly criticized the club for their decision making, including Craig Breslow, the Sox chief baseball officer, who, by the way, was hired 10 months after Rafael Dever signed his extension in Boston with then president Heim Blum. So. So those comments from Devers included, quote, I know I'm a ballplayer, but at the same time, they can't expect me to play every single position out there. In spring training, they talked to me and basically told me to put away my glove, that I wasn't going to play any other position but dh. So right now I just feel like it's not an appropriate decision by them to ask me to play another position. And finally, I'm not certain what issue he has with me, Dever said of Breslow, who played 12 Majors seasons in the majors himself, he played ball, and I would like to think that he knows that changing positions like that isn't easy. Your perspective comes from someone who worked as a president of business operations in Major League Baseball, where you have a deep investment in a player like Devers. And then you also have your president of baseball operations, who you've hired to do this job.
[30:20]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Job.
[30:20]
Dan LeBatard
They're at odds. Have you ever experienced anything like this? And what is your perspective about where things stand in this incredibly complicated story between Boston and Rafael Devers?
[30:31]
Stugotz
My job was to try to understand when there was a disagreement, how I can solve the disagreement where both parties believe that they have not been wronged. And to do it, you really have to know the people and understand the underlying facts. Let's talk about Rafi. This is a guy who was signed so everyone remembers when the Red Sox did not keep mookie bets.
[30:58]
Dan LeBatard
That's right.
[30:59]
Stugotz
And the Red Sox were finishing at the bottom after having won several World Series. The fan base was apoplectic and what the fan base did, what the media did, is they said, hey, we've got this guy, Rafi Devers. He's our guy. You better pay him. And so what John Henry, the owner of the Red Sox did is gave Devers a contract that the minute it was signed was going to be a problem because of the length and because of the size. What they could not have anticipated is what a selfish player Devers was going to become. The quotes that Devers gave were so bad that it forced the owner of the team to get on his jet and go to Kansas City and speak one on one to Devers and say, listen, what's going on here? For 313 million, if we want you to Dh, if we want you to play first, third, if we want you to be the team trainer, you've got to be in like Flynn. You've got to represent our brand, our team. You've got to be the leader. You've got the money, you've got the talent. We've got to get the results to do it. You've got to be with us. And every one of Dever's quotes would indicate that not only was Devers not going to play ball, and I mean that pun intended, but that he was going to take everyone down with him. But his teammates didn't want any part of that. His teammates were very critical of whatever said and what Des was representing. And therefore, you go in as president and you say to Devers, I need you. Forget the media, forget your quotes, forget the translator. I need you inside that clubhouse. I need you with your guys, I need you making sure that you're all rowing the same direction to try to get us to the top of the American League East.
[32:55]
Dan LeBatard
I just can't believe that the Red Sox didn't find a way to not have these quotes be the quotes that are floating around about their franchise from their star player. And there's a whole other conversation to be had about the fact that this all was done through a translator and how complicated that makes everything both in the locker room and out of the locker room. But it's time for us to end this part of this segment and move on. Now it's officially round three. I'm down three to one. Taylor, what's my question?
[33:24]
Greg Cody
Before moving into Citizens Bank park in 2004, the Philadelphia Phillies called this stadium home.
[33:32]
Dan LeBatard
I don't even know if I'm gonna have a guess. I. I have nothing for the. The. The Philly Dome. That's what I was gonna say.
[33:39]
Greg Cody
Yes, the Philly Dome is incorrect.
[33:43]
Dan LeBatard
Picture the Philly fanatic riding around on his little thing. But I. I don't know the name of it. I got nothing.
[33:49]
Greg Cody
It's Veteran Stadium. Chris Cody. Before moving into Target Field in 2010, the Minnesota Twins called this stadium home.
[33:58]
Dan LeBatard
You know, this one might. I can't remember. I can picture it.
[34:02]
Stugotz
I don't.
[34:03]
Dan LeBatard
I can picture it. Same boat as the last one.
[34:05]
Greg Cody
I don't remember.
[34:07]
Dan LeBatard
Before Target Field, they played at Clapperfield.
[34:11]
Greg Cody
Clapperfield is incorrect. Jeremy with the chance to steal.
[34:16]
Dan LeBatard
I don't have it. Taylor, tell me what it is so that I can get upset.
[34:19]
Greg Cody
It's the Metrodome.
[34:20]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, that one. That's obvious.
[34:23]
Greg Cody
That's on me, Jeremy. In 2000, the Marlins drafted this five time All Star first baseman first overall, although he would never play a game for them.
[34:35]
Dan LeBatard
Adrian Gonzalez.
[34:37]
Greg Cody
Okay. The guys know Fish.
[34:39]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. We know our Marlins history.
[34:43]
Greg Cody
In 1999, the Tampa Bay Rays would draft this five time All Star outfielder first overall, although he would never play a game for that.
[34:54]
Dan LeBatard
Like, did this guy. I feel like this guy played for them. The only reason I knew Adrian Gonzalez was because it's Marlin's history. There was no way. I'm. I'm getting a question. Never played for them. I mean, just traded as a prospect. So I'll go. Rocco Baldelli. But he played for them, right?
[35:11]
Greg Cody
Famously, yes.
[35:14]
Dan LeBatard
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Andrew McCutch.
[35:19]
Greg Cody
It is not Andrew McCutcheon. This player drafted in 99, made his MLB debut 2007, ran into some, some troubles. Josh Hamilton.
[35:30]
Dan LeBatard
Damn it, David. The Rockies are historically bad, but this team, through 40 games, 7 and 33, that's second worst record through 40 games in MLB history.
[35:43]
Stugotz
Listen, at some point you need better people choosing players, and that's the reality. I don't know how Bill Schmidt survives this.
[35:49]
Dan LeBatard
This.
[35:50]
Stugotz
I think that firing Bud Black and Mike Redmond, our old friend Mike, that's not really the answer. You're going to have to do better drafting better, developing better trades, better everything in order to get better players. We know that there can be winning teams in Colorado. We've seen it. And we know that there can be winning teams with bottom, you know, 10 payrolls. We've seen it. And so they just have to do it. But I will say this about Colorado is. I've got to believe they're up against something that, that you can't beat, and that is papal prayers. And I can only assume the Pope is praying the Rockies to lose 122. So no one talks about the White Sox anymore. And that is going to happen. So the Pope's prayers obviously get answered. And that is much to the chagrin of Rocky's fans.
[36:36]
Dan LeBatard
Hey, look, the first series that the Pope's White Sox played after he was named the Pope, they won two out of three against the Marlins. So they're headed the right direction with him in power. The visuals of him at the World Series in 2005 is just, it's completely mind blowing. It's like a break in the simulation. David, we've been, this is where we're going to wrap with you. We've been focusing. I've been, I've been referring to this as a golden era in Major league Baseball in terms of stardom. I just think that there are so many superstars all around the league that it's almost difficult to be able to pay attention to all of them at once. And so I've been having our guests pick a star amongst a few that I can name to kind of highlight here. So over the last week, some of the ones that have stood out to me, you've got Shohei Ohtani. Obviously, at any time we could talk about Shohei, but his, his late inning heroics have been cool and, and no one hits a late game home run in a cooler way than Shohei Ohtani. There's Pete Gro Armstrong in Chicago who has just been spectacular about him on both sides of the ball. Well, and the last one I'll name will be Kyle Schwaber, who weirdly enough might be having the best season of his entire career in a contract year here as they struggle. So Pete Crowe, Armstrong, it seems like he's the guy you want to focus on here. He's spectacular.
[37:55]
Stugotz
Here's the thing that he does well, everything, it's amazing. And he's doing it on a team now. He's got good protection. The Cubs are a fantastic offensive team, but don't Forget he's only 23 years old, but he's someone you should be watching. The Cubs team is a team that you should be watching in that A, they're fun to watch and B, even losing their best pitcher, which they lost to injury, Justin Steele, they have found a way. And it's early still, but it's getting later, but it is still early.
[38:22]
Dan LeBatard
David, thank you for highlighting part of it here. I know we spent a lot of time on transaction stuff when it comes to Rafael Devers, but that's why we appreciate your expertise. Thank you very Much. And now it is time to get back to the competition between myself and Chris.
[38:36]
Greg Cody
The Rays all time strikeout leader is this pitcher who pitched seven seasons with the franchise from 2006 to 2012.
[38:46]
Dan LeBatard
I think it's Jamie Shields. Does he have to say his name right to get it right? James Shields.
[38:51]
Greg Cody
Okay, locking it in.
[38:55]
Dan LeBatard
You just gave me the answer. If you're wrong, I'm gonna say it's James Shields and I'm locking it in.
[39:01]
Greg Cody
We're Todd. Going into Chris Cody's question, I thought it was.
[39:05]
Dan LeBatard
I knew it was James Shields. That's who I was thinking. Okay.
[39:09]
Greg Cody
He said Jamie Shields. I was not gonna give.
[39:11]
Dan LeBatard
Why did I say no? Are you kidding? Come on.
[39:14]
Mike Ryan
I.
[39:14]
Dan LeBatard
All right. Also let's Ethan get on it some. At some point in his career, they called him Jamie Shields. I promise he's talking to Jamie Moore. No, I'm not. That. He shouldn't say anything. Why would I be thinking of Jamie Moyer? I know the difference between Jamie Moyer and James Shields. How can you look. Baseball reference has Jamie listed as a nickname for James. Wow. Okay, let me see that. I don't believe it. All right, fine.
[39:35]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I believe.
[39:35]
Dan LeBatard
I hope you.
[39:36]
Greg Cody
I believe it either. Jamie.
[39:37]
Dan LeBatard
I'm gone. I'm staring you. I'm right here. LeBron. LeBron stare as you get this question.
[39:42]
Greg Cody
The brewers all time strikeout leader is this pitcher who pitched eight seasons with the franchise from 2007 to 2014.
[39:53]
Dan LeBatard
I mean, there's obviously like a famous pit here for them that war is had a certain way. Wait, was he traded from the. I don't know, the Cleveland team to the. I don't know, brewers or was he traded from the brewers to the. I'm not sure. Cleveland team? I can't. I can't remember. I definitely thinking of the right person. I definitely can't remember. Wait on that one. I just thought of it. It's not that guy at all. It's not CC Sabathia. It's not. You want me to guess him? So you said Sheets. Final answer.
[40:24]
Greg Cody
Ben Sheets is incorrect. Jeremy with the chance to steal and win.
[40:29]
Dan LeBatard
It's like the pressure of this is really making every player who ever played disappear in my brain. Longest pitch clock ever. Michael Brantley was a player to be named later in the CC Sabathia trade from the Guardians to the.
[40:43]
Roz Gold-Onwude
Ethan just.
[40:44]
Dan LeBatard
Ethan just distracted my line of thinking with a fun fact about my hell was that Ethan? What am I thinking about the brewers pitchers from 2007 to 2014. Helpful nugget. Helpful Nugget, it's over. Just send us to overtime. Who was the pitcher?
[40:59]
Greg Cody
The pitcher? Yovani Gallardo.
[41:01]
Dan LeBatard
No, I wasn't going to get that. I remember he had a day though. He had a cup of coffee, obviously.
[41:06]
Greg Cody
Okay, so the tiebreaker. You guys are going to write down your guess. Whoever's closer to the actual number is the winner.
[41:14]
Dan LeBatard
Love it.
[41:14]
Greg Cody
Derek Jeter, Regular season home runs.
[41:18]
Dan LeBatard
I have my guess ready. But I, I.
[41:21]
Greg Cody
You haven't written down.
[41:21]
Dan LeBatard
I haven't. I don't. I don't feel confident. Yeah, I don't feel good about this.
[41:26]
Greg Cody
Jeremy, you reveal your number first and then I'll see how close it was.
[41:30]
Dan LeBatard
10 down.
[41:30]
Roz Gold-Onwude
I have a number here.
[41:32]
Dan LeBatard
One number. There's another number clearly crossed out. My number is 300. 287 is my guess.
[41:38]
Greg Cody
287. Chris Cody. Jeremy. 300.
[41:41]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
[41:43]
Greg Cody
Two unbelievable guesses, all things considered. 260. Chris Cody.
[41:50]
Dan LeBatard
What a switch. By me. What a switch. The gut. The gut. This thing's big. It said, hey, guys. Too many. You put too many. At least after one of the worst games we've ever played last week. This was a thriller. We are back, Taylor. Alright, so here's something interesting. Did you know that sleep actually is really important to recovery? I mean, who knew, right? And everyone needs something different from their bed. Which is why sleep number makes these smart beds that let you adjust each side to the firmness you want. Kind of perfect for couples that can't agree on anything. They've even partnered with the NFL since 2018. 80% of NFL players sleep on a sleep number smart bed. So yeah, there's a reason these things are popular. They've got beds that cool you down up to 15 degrees cooler on either side to help you sleep better. Especially if you're someone who wakes up sweating like you just ran wind sprints in your dreams. The bed also responds to your movements and adjusts as you sleep, which is wild. Why choose sleep number smart bed. So you can choose your ideal comfort on either side. And now it's the sleep number everything Smart bed single sale. Every smart bed and base are on sale during our Memorial Day event. Up to 50 off limited time. Exclusively at a sleep number store near you. See store or sleepnumber.com for details.