Hour 2: I Did Not Hear Beeps! (feat. Amin Elhassan & Lucy Rohden)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 2: I Did Not Hear Beeps!
Date: November 10, 2025
Featuring: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Amin Elhassan, Lucy Rohden, Mike Ryan, Chris Cote

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Overview

This vibrant hour from The Dan Le Batard Show brings the crew together post-football weekend at the Elser Hotel in downtown Miami. Regulars Dan, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Chris Cote, and special contributors Amin Elhassan and Lucy Rohden tackle sports culture, NFL quirks, college football chaos, pop culture, awkward dreams, and viral internet moments. The episode flows from heated debates about airplane etiquette to absurd tailgating antics at Appalachian State, cementing the hour’s trademark blend of humor, insight, and rowdy banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Airplane Mode and Airport Sleeping

[00:54 – 03:59]

• Airplane Mode Hoax Debate:
  Amin argues airplane mode is largely unnecessary for safety, citing his brother (an electrical engineer):

  • “Airplane mode is an absolute hoax… you would need, like, 500,000 phones [to interfere].” (Chris Cote, 01:34)
  • “You don’t have the engineering expertise required here to tell us whether Airplane Mode is a hoax or not.” (Mike Ryan, 02:46)

• Sleeping on Airport Floors:

  • Chris Cote finds it “disgusting,” comparing it to sleeping under urinals:
    • “Millions of people all across the country flying from everywhere, stepping in God knows what.” (Chris Cote, 03:30)

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Amin’s Weekend Observations

[04:04 – 15:29]

• The segment features rapid-fire comic sports analysis covering NFL upsets, NCAA quips, odd moments, and pop culture references:

  • Bills Lose to Dolphins:

    • “The Bills losing to the Dolphins in the 1pm window is back. Last time they blamed the sun. This time it’s the rain weather.” (Chris Cote, 04:49)

  • Giannis’ NCAA Eligibility

    • “Wouldn’t it be hilarious if [Giannis] was okayed by the NCAA only to be deemed academically ineligible?” (Chris Cote, 05:55)

  • Funny Dream: Dan’s Fake Retirement

    • Amin recounts dreaming that Dan retired mid-show:
      • “I had faxes all over my house… Like, why do I have a fax machine in the bathroom?” (Chris Cote, 13:51)

  • Funniest but Controversial Bits – Cote’s Top 5

    • “The Instagram account ‘Kids Getting Hurt’” and “Missed Connections bit” top his personal list (Chris Cote, 14:40)

• Memorable Quote:

  • “The only place to lay down was the bathroom right under the urinals. Would you be like, what am I going to do?” (Chris Cote, 03:16)

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Sports and Pop Culture Sidebars

[19:43 – 24:34]

• NBA Rumors:

  • Brief, comedic speculation about Ja Morant’s future and player fit; Mike Ryan marvels at Apple TV’s budget for new shows.
  • “[Apple] brought Vince Gilligan out of retirement and to give him that kind of budget… you know he’s gonna make something good.” (Mike Ryan, 21:39)

• TV & Movie Length Complaints:

  • The cast riffs on attention spans, Netflix bloat, and how movie watching expectations have evolved.

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Appalachian State Tailgate Report: Lucy Rohden Segment

[27:33 – 33:09]

• Atmosphere & Rivalry:

  • Lucy attends her first Group of Five rivalry game—App State vs. Georgia Southern. She immerses herself in tailgate culture, characterizing the fan experience:
    • “Everyone needs to experience the hill at least once in their life.” (Chris Cote, 28:37)
    • “The community comes together real well…we’re out here on a Thursday night.” (Dan Le Batard, 28:12)
  • Local color includes “Peanut Pete” and the fervor over the school’s 2007 win against Michigan.

• Memorable Moment: Lucy Called “Unk”

  • “While we were doing the interviews, a kid called me Unk… I said, ‘Oh, a long time ago.’ ‘Oh, so you’re Unk.’ That’s the kid that called me Unk.” (Lucy Rohden, 30:02)
  • This triggers much laughter and ongoing “Peanut Pete” jokes.

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College Football Chaos

[33:45 – 42:27]

• Upsets, Injuries, and Conference Mayhem:

  • The group discusses the ACC and Power Five confusion—including Louisville and Virginia losses, and the prospect of Duke in the ACC championship game:
    • “The ACC is one big, giant mess. But because of this, Miami might be able to play their way back in potentially.” (Lucy Rohden, 35:48)

• Heisman & Top Teams:

  • Lucy singles out Fernando Mendoza’s season at Indiana as “remarkable,” and the group debates which teams are true playoff contenders.

• Hot Take Moment:

  • “Everything has gone to shit. Who knows?” (Lucy Rohden, 40:58) – which Mike immediately polls as the “best analysis you’ve heard on college football this year.”

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Lucy’s Internet Minute

[42:28 – 44:17]

• Top Viral Story:

  • A viral social experiment in Kentucky where a woman calls local churches asking for baby formula and records their responses—most refuse to help:
    • “She might be changing the course of American history because this is one of the wildest social experiments I’ve ever seen.” (Lucy Rohden, 43:06)

• Public Reaction:

  • Some churches help, some refuse due to membership, and the segment sparks debate about generosity and hypocrisy in religious institutions.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Airplane Mode:

  • “They did it because they don’t want people to be on their phones talking and having conversations the whole time. It does nothing.” (Chris Cote, 01:34)

• On Sleeping at Airports:

  • “Millions of people… stepping in God knows what.” (Chris Cote, 03:30)

• On Giannis Playing NCAA:

  • “Wouldn’t it be hilarious if he was okayed by the NCAA only to be deemed academically ineligible?” (Chris Cote, 05:55)

• Lucy's “Unk” Moment:

  • “A kid called me Unk… That’s the kid that called me Unk.” (Lucy Rohden, 30:02)

• On ACC Chaos:

  • “Are you guys ready for Duke in the ACC championship game?… They just lost to UConn!” (Lucy Rohden, 33:56)

• Best Hot Take:

  • "Everything has gone to shit. Who knows?" (Lucy Rohden, 40:58)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:54 | Airplane mode/airport sleeping debate | | 04:04 | Amin’s Weekend Observations start | | 13:01 | Amin’s vivid dream about Dan’s retirement | | 27:33 | Lucy Rohden’s App State tailgate dispatch | | 33:56 | ACC/college football upsets & chaos | | 42:28 | Lucy’s Internet Minute: Viral Kentucky church experiment | | 40:58 | Lucy’s “Everything has gone to shit” hot take |

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Tone and Style

Irreverent, high-energy, and full of inside jokes, the show pivots effortlessly from satirical sports coverage to personal anecdotes and pop-culture asides. Genuine camaraderie, playful insults, and surreal digressions are hallmarks, making the episode equally fun for sports fans and pop culture aficionados alike.

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Summary prepared for those who missed the episode. All ad reads, intros, and non-content sections skipped for clarity and brevity.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

Lucy Rodine will be with us here. She went somewhere strange this weekend. What was that game that she was covering? I just saw some footage from Georgia from the Georgia Southern football game.

[Chris Cote]

Appalachian State.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Chris Cote]

Boone, North Carolina. What a beautiful place.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, we will talk to Lucy about that, but Amin joins us now for weekend observations and some other things. Did you have any commentary on some of the things that we covered earlier in the show? Zaslow judges people who sleep on airport floors. Mike Ryan doesn't like being judged that way. Zaslo is also someone who is against airplane mode on a airplane on his cell phone and will spill a drink on you if you tell him that. That he shouldn't mess with the.

[Chris Cote]

It got all over lap.

[Mike Ryan]

The. The. The pilot's, you know, technology. What are your thoughts there? I mean.

[Chris Cote]

Well, first of all, airplane mode is an absolute hoax. They did it because they don't want people to be on their phones talking and having conversations the whole time. It does nothing. I Learned this in 2008. I want to say 2009, Dan. I was on the charter flight with the Suns, and I forgot to put my phone in airplane mode, and lo and behold, didn't crash. Yep. And so I told my brother, who's an electrical engineer, and he's like, yeah, like, the number of phones it would take to not be on airplane mode to interfere with the plane's operation, you would need, like, 500,000 phones. They don't do enough individually or Even collectively with 300 people on board to really severely interrupt airplane operations.

[Mike Ryan]

Jeremy is sour. He's making an assortment of sour faces at you. These are just a bunch of people.

[Chris Cote]

Who don't like to take one for the team.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, I'm not saying that my one.

[Chris Cote]

Cell phone is going to bring down this plane. But if everybody has that attitude. I mean, look at what happened in 2020. I just. I just told you. If everyone had the attitude on plane, it's still not enough phones. There's a lot of planes.

[Mike Ryan]

To take that from someone who didn't finish at Georgia Tech because he couldn't do the widowmaker test. Couldn't pass the widowmaker.

[Chris Cote]

I got a D in that. D is for done at Georgia Tech. It's true.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. You don't have the engineering expertise required here to tell us whether Airplane Mode is a hoax or not.

[Chris Cote]

I don't. But if you were listening Steve Martin, you would hear that I told you that my brother, who has a PhD in electrical engineering, was the one who reassured me of this.

[Mike Ryan]

What are your opinions on airplane sleeping on the airport floor?

[Chris Cote]

Disgusting. Disgusting.

[Mike Ryan]

Nobody. Can I just get on the front end? No. We're not sitting here saying, oh, we love to do it. I love nothing more than it's when you're stuck there for five hours.

[Chris Cote]

I'm not going to sit in these.

[Mike Ryan]

Uncomfortable chairs for 5 hours.

[Chris Cote]

Definitely not going to lie down on the disgusting floor. Exactly. Exactly. The only place to lay down was the bathroom right under the urinals. Would you be like, what am I going to do? I'm just going to sit in these uncomfortable.

[Mike Ryan]

That's not the only option.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just being silly. That's a silly close person.

[Chris Cote]

No, it's not a silly comparison. Right. Guess what? People go to these journals, pee everywhere, step all over that. Do you think they wipe their shoes on the way out? No. They're tracking all that shit all across the entire airport. Millions of people all across the country flying from everywhere, stepping in God knows what.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but I'm.

[Chris Cote]

Hell, Ethan the other day, stepped in dogshit and walked over. Over our office. You think I'm going to take a nap on the office floor? Do you know about that, Dan?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't want to know about that.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, now, now, Mr. Dog Lover doesn't want to know about that.

[Mike Ryan]

No, it's not that I'm a dog lover. It's that I'm an Ethan hater.

[Lucy Rodine]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Time now for Amin's Weekend Observations. It is time for Amin to share his game notes.

[Chris Cote]

No one in the media will tell.

[Mike Ryan]

You what happened better than my boy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean.

[Chris Cote]

Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Light. Turn on the original sound so I can hear the beeps. It is then. We just didn't have a beep. Got it. Now it's on. Don't say it is. It is. Now I hear it now. It was on the whole time.

[Lucy Rodine]

David, we're not gonna do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stop being such a man.

[Mike Ryan]

This is like the start to the Dolphin.

[Chris Cote]

I did not hear beeps and I did not hear music. Then after I said turn it on, then I heard the music. You're not going to tell me it was on the.

[Mike Ryan]

We all heard the beep. We all heard everything.

[Chris Cote]

You heard it. I'm on Zoom boys. Did not click a single button. Dan, it's been a long ass time. Over 1100 days to be exact. They dominated the past three years of regular season matchups. With one caveat. Because just like that, make no mistake, the Bills losing to the Dolphins in the 1pm window is back. Last time they blamed the sun. This time it's the rain weather. I told you, Greg Cody, be strong. Leave it to the jets to up a tank job. Leave it to the Browns to lose to the team with 169 yards of total yard offense. Giannis asking if he has college eligibility got me thinking of two things. One, what would Giannis do in an NCAA game? Just think about it for a second. Imagine Giannis playing against teenagers.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Number two, wouldn't it be hilarious if he was okayed by the NCAA only to be deemed academically ineligible? Jackson Darth entered concussion protocol Sunday versus the Bears after I told the Giants last week to protect them at all costs. For Christ's sake, guys, we finally got something right. Don't turn them into tua. Diana Rossini, what's your. Sir, everyone owes you an apology. Davis Mills Clutch led a 260 Texans score in the fourth quarter.

[Mike Ryan]

She said that if anyone called the Texans, it would be no way. And they would hang up the phone. I don't believe that that is something that the Texans should do.

[Chris Cote]

You guys laughed and then what did he do yesterday? Clutch.

[Mike Ryan]

That was saved. The Jags being not clutch. That wasn't Davis Mills being clutch.

[Chris Cote]

A Chan made the Bills his. Wow. Mike, you asked if AI can be harassed. I think the distinguished gentleman from Mauritania on Pluribus would say not.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a good show.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, my God, that show is Pluribus. Just the Rick and Morty episode where Rick dates the unity. Daniel Jones mouth looked like he was an extra on True Blood. Okay, what was that white stuff all over my screen in Giants vs Bears? It was like falling everywhere. Let's catch that snow.

[Mike Ryan]

It was snow games this weekend. Snow games.

[Chris Cote]

That's what that was. Okay, so it's doing that now, huh?

[Mike Ryan]

It was early for that. Right. Early November. It's a little early for snow games, isn't it?

[Dan Le Batard]

And college basketball.

[Chris Cote]

I live in Phoenix and I work in Miami. I wouldn't know. Dan wanting to talk about the World Series. Congrats, Chris. Great get for the slow report, man. It was 10 days ago. What are you talking about?

[Mike Ryan]

Two things that people weren't talking about, though.

[Chris Cote]

Zoe Saldana dancing in a T mobile ad while chanting I got rhythm. I got rhythm. The number can't be that high, guys. It just can't. Jackson Smith. Ninjigba. Too early to call him the best whiteout in football.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, every time I look up, they're in the first quarter. He's got four catches for 82 yards.

[Chris Cote]

Jacksonville, not a single player or coach was on their game. I guess you could say they were a team of jag offs. Jagoffs, Dan. Jags. And they were off. Does Dan think Alejandro Kirk is Canadian? You keep saying he let his country down. Or are you talking about Mexico? Because someone who lives somewhere with a large Mexican representation, I can assure you he didn't let Mexico down. They like the Dodgers, Dan. A lot. Fernando Valenzuela, look him up. How many edibles are appropriate for a weekend trip? Tommy Tuberville thinks New York City will be completely Muslim in three to four years. No punchline necessary. People voted for that guy. The unsung hero of the Bills Finns game. Paul. Is that his first name or his last name? I don't know. I do know that Dan was probably going to jump in and explain to me how I ruined the joke by asking. Then I get the joke. That's why I said it. That's the last week. It still haunts me that you thought I didn't get the joke. Here come the Ravens. If you bring a ton of edibles on a trip, make sure they're in a secure place or else a dog might get into them. Oh, no, no. That's a very dangerous situation. No. Although simultaneously makes for a lot of hilarious photos of a dog high off its ass. I don't condone leaving edibles out for a dog to eat, but we can agree the ensuing photos are in fact hilarious. Lot of Hitler references in that Berlin game. Supercharge that. But yeah, they definitely hit the over on references to that particular desperate. All because they played a game in that capital city onto something completely different. Donald Trump was at Lions commanders. Did Trump think the Fox national broadcast was the commander's broadcast? He kept saying things like, now your ratings have gone up because you have hope because they have a quarterback and you have a wonderful owner. In Josh and his group funniest part of the weekend, when Trump was leaving the booth, he tried to dap up Jonathan Vilmo. Do you guys see that?

[Mike Ryan]

Did not.

[Chris Cote]

But he tried to. He gave him like the half shrug, you know, hit him in the back. But then he shook his hand for some reason.

[Mike Ryan]

I've told you the story of one of the most awkward moments like that I've ever seen involves Greg Cody, Bourbon Street, Ray Lewis ending up in a mink coat on Bourbon street trying to do that with Greg Cody. Greg Cody got totally turned around and ended up with his back to Ray Lewis while trying to do trying to do a handshake, he got turned around. He ended up inside of his mink in a way that was totally awkward with his back to Ray Lewis.

[Chris Cote]

How many Steeler fans were at that Chargers game? It was so loud.

[Mike Ryan]

They travel well.

[Chris Cote]

Or was that just Dave Damek yammering away enough for 70,000 people? Yeah, Mershek, Charlie the Ruiner. I'm disappointed we didn't get Cody saying, anyone else? No, just me. Got it. Mike McDaniel said in post game comments quote, I'm happy that everyone gets to see the side that I see. I see guys win, lose or draw focus and lean in and buy in. TUA backed him up. Dang. Karma, karma, karma, karma, karma chameleon. We beat a great team today and I'm proud of the guys in the locker room. Lou Diamond Phillips. Don't judge me, you hypocrites. You guys all say, oh, TUA lost it. Oh TUA doesn't have anymore. Why do you think that is? Cte, you're not going to take the fun out of that for me.

[Mike Ryan]

Fun?

[Chris Cote]

Here's the science. What's up?

[Mike Ryan]

Fun cussions, Fun cushions.

[Chris Cote]

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[Mike Ryan]

What is that? You're just doing a promo in the middle? In the middle of weekend observations.

[Chris Cote]

I made an observation that I have a podcast every week. It's about bar rescue. We do live Washington on Mondays and we and the episodes come out on Tuesdays. What had a dream? Dan announced his retirement live on air mid show. Dude. The fans were going nuts. The crew was stunned. The big Lead and Awful Announcing were scrambling to put out newsers. David Sampson was irate that Dan did leverage the moment in a better way. Local and national news outlets were blowing up all our phones with interview requests. I was the only one who thought it was hysterical. I just kept laughing because I told Sampson, yo, I think he's doing an Andy Kaufman thing. He's not retiring at all. He. It was just a joke.

[Mike Ryan]

You had a dream. This was in your sleep.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, it's in my sleep. It's a very detailed dream.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't remember any of my dreams.

[Chris Cote]

My dreams are detailed. I write them down, Zaz. No one believes me, but I write them down. Also, for some reason, I had faxes all over my house. Like, it was Back to the Future, too. Like, it's like, oh, Dan retired. Like, what? Why do I have a fax machine in the bathroom? Top five things I think is funny, but other people think it's no laughing matter. Oli, a dog getting super high. Serious, but it's also funny. Number five, my story about how Vanessa Carlton was destitute until the movie White Chick saved her career. Number four, Dan fake retiring in the middle of a show. Number three, TUA CTE jokes.

[Mike Ryan]

Fun gushing.

[Chris Cote]

Number two, the Instagram account. Kids getting hurt. And the number one thing I think is funny but other people think is no laughing matter. The missed connections bit I do. Missed connection? You were the stunning beauty who commanded everyone's attention to stop traffic. I was the guy you T boned in the middle of the intersection. Texas moved up two spots in the polls despite being idle bullshit GT plays BC next week about to bring a dark clouded world and put the sun down on their ass. What's up, Trevor? Go to hell, B.C. mike. Speaking of hell, Art Briles knows are the weekend observations.

[Mike Ryan]

What level of crushed were you by Georgia Tech losing to NC State? And that way, like, is that the most that football loss has ever hurt you?

[Chris Cote]

No, no, no, no. I mean, Dan, this is. You got to understand, man. I went to school with Joe Hamilton. He was my next door neighbor. I saw, like, the peaks of we're about to win a national championship if we can beat Peter War and the Florida State Seminoles. Like, that's. That's the pinnacle. This is just gravy. Like, I'm happy for my school. It's fun. It sucks that we lost NC State, but as Mike tells me, they win that game every single time when their coach needs to save his job.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

Foreign.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you have any updates for us on John Morant? Is he going to get moved?

[Chris Cote]

Well, Dan, I talked to John Krasinski who not that John Krasinski, the other one, the one that works for the ap who covers the Minnesota Timberwolves and he said the T Wolves are checking in on that situation. They're monitoring. They're monitoring point guard. They're monitoring the situation. Officially he's not on the block, but obviously Minnesota is a team that's very interested. They have a need at point guard. There are some questions on how he would fit because again, he's a very ball dominant player and the Timberwolves have been subsisting on a lot of threes and the ball being in Julius Randall's hands and Anthony Edwards hands. But I mean it's hard to again, like Miami, it's like if Ja Morant is on the block, how can you say no, no, not for me. Clive, he's terrible.

[Mike Ryan]

Now.

[Chris Cote]

He's terrible because of the offensive running. He's not good in that offense. He's not comfortable. And Zaz, as I said last week in the NBA, when you want out, you don't hold out, you don't sit out. You show up and you make a mess. And I think that's he's not terrible.

[Mike Ryan]

Says like you can't say that that athlete three for 18 is terrible. I know, but that athlete at that age, I understand that 3 for 18 is terrible, but he's not terrible. He didn't forget how to play basketball. You put him, you put him in the right place. He's still going to be great at basketball.

[Chris Cote]

I would think so. But on the year too, like, he's, he's shooting 37% so far this year. He was already a terrible three point shooter and that's even worse now. I mean, is he attacking the basket as much? But I haven't watched enough because like you said, like this coach, it's a bit of a different style. Yeah, that's. It would be like a star receiver getting one reception a game and you say, oh, he fell off. No, they're running the ball on every play now. And so he just doesn't have that same comfort in the same number of opportunities.

[Mike Ryan]

We mentioned earlier. Pluribus on Apple tv.

[Chris Cote]

Do I watch that?

[Mike Ryan]

You do have to watch that. I mean, amount. First of all, Rhea Seehorn in Better Call Saul was exceptional. And I am, I thought she was.

[Chris Cote]

Claire Danes this whole time.

[Mike Ryan]

I am continually flabbergasted by the amount of money that Apple has. I know, we know that Apple has a lot of money, but to bring Vince Gilligan out of retirement and to give him that kind of budget to make whatever he wants, you know, he's gonna make something good. What have you seen of it? It's only a couple of episodes in, but that is the kind of thing that would be enough to get people to subscribe to Apple if they're not already subscribed to Apple.

[Chris Cote]

Then it reminded me a little bit of paradise in that it's just a very fun different concept. Like, it's just a different concept of a show than we're accustomed to seeing. And the imagination of what would happen if this happened. I'm not going to give it away, but like, if this happened to the world, how would.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't have to give it away without say. All you have to say is the most miserable person on earth is trying to save people from happiness. That's the premise.

[Chris Cote]

Yes, yes. That's.

[Lucy Rodine]

I don't know.

[Chris Cote]

That means, okay, you got to watch the show. You got to watch the show. But Dan, I'm gonna tell you one thing. It's incredibly well written and, and beautifully shot. As you mentioned, it's not unlike Frankenstein, which I saw on Netflix, which is also well written and beautifully shot, but needed an editor because again, enough with these streaming people giving these movie makers. I make however long A movie. You want two and a half hours for us to just have Oscar Isaac laying in a bed half the time telling the story is just a little too much.

[Mike Ryan]

It is weird though that we can watch an eight part series, no problem, eight hours, but two and a half hours in one movie is too much. It's just a weird thing that's happened. Our brains are broken here.

[Chris Cote]

I don't know if it's. Our brains are broken. I think there's an expectation. Movies are supposed to be a story told continuously within a certain amount of time. Whereas TV shows, they have arcs and they have mini arcs in between. And it's, it's designed to have a much longer watch because there are these peaks and valleys where they get you back in with a cliffhanger. You can't do that in one sitting in the movie. It just, it's too much.

[Mike Ryan]

What's your, what's your cutoff point on how long a movie has to be where you check out on it? Because two and a half hours is too much for me. If I see two and a half hours, I'm unlikely to watch it. What is your cutoff point?

[Chris Cote]

Cinephobe listeners know if a movie's longer than two hours, automatically my interest level before it's even started. Most movies now I feel like are over two hours because they let these jamukes do whatever they want. Says like, oh, I'm an auteur. Let me do the longest movie ever. It's art. And like, yeah, go ahead, here's money. I'm Netflix. That's why. Now again, Guillermo del Toro is a great movie maker. And so I had the patience. You know, I'm going to have the patience. I'm going to try and watch this one sitting. It took me two sittings. I liked it. It's a good movie. It just needed to be edited down.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, thank you. We will check in next week. Thank you. You held down the fort in a way that was admirable. Last is celebrating how well you did last week. Thank you for your help last week, sir.

[Chris Cote]

You're welcome. I'll be there on Wednesday. I don't have to check in next week.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. I didn't know.

[Chris Cote]

Feels like next week.

[Mike Ryan]

All right. I didn't know that. I, I, I thought Cody was going to be here today. I thought, I thought Scots was going to be here a month ago. I don't know. Charlie is, I don't know when anybody's going to be here.

[Chris Cote]

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[Lucy Rodine]

Don LeBatard he seems like a not nice guy and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves.

[Chris Cote]

Oh wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugatz. I hope he has the day he deserves.

[Lucy Rodine]

That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like go f yourself. I'm like I hope you have the day you deserve.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a great kind. It's a great kind. Insult. Yes, it's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out.

[Lucy Rodine]

That's a less southern Bless your heart.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. I love abstinent university and I love you mom. 67.

[Lucy Rodine]

Dan for the first time in off roading history we are at a group of five game. I am embarrassed, disappointed and disgusted in myself that it took us this long to make it to the G5. But we're here for a rivalry at St Georgia Southern. These teams do not like each other. We're in the mountains. We're having a great time. How much do you hate Georgia Southern? Let's just say they stink.

[Dan Le Batard]

I got nothing good to say about Georgia Southern.

[Lucy Rodine]

Not one good thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nothing. Not a damn thing.

[Lucy Rodine]

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you hate them?

[Mike Ryan]

11.

[Lucy Rodine]

We are not fans of Georgia Southern. How would you guys describe the group of 5 experience compared to the power 5 or 4?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think the community comes together real well. I mean, you see, we're out here on a Thursday night. A lot of us got classes don't tomorrow morning, but we're still here. So.

[Mike Ryan]

Such nice people.

[Dan Le Batard]

A great university.

[Chris Cote]

This town wouldn't be the same without.

[Dan Le Batard]

Without the university.

[Chris Cote]

App State.

[Mike Ryan]

Older generations from App State that still.

[Lucy Rodine]

Come to the games over and over again.

[Dan Le Batard]

Win or loss, they still come back every. Every weekend, every Thursday night, they're here.

[Lucy Rodine]

And they're ready to cheer on the team.

[Chris Cote]

Everyone needs to experience the hill at least once in their life.

[Lucy Rodine]

What should I be prepared for if I go to the hill?

[Mike Ryan]

Exactly what it sounds like.

[Chris Cote]

It's. It is a hill that students go down and just have the wildest time of their entire lives every single week.

[Lucy Rodine]

How many people do you see sliding down the field? On a game basis, how many would you estimate? At least 15, I think 15 to 30. So I understand you're like the OG game bib wearer. How did this start?

[Mike Ryan]

This started with a group of friends back in 2012. We were showing up in these every single week. We ended up being told by the.

[Chris Cote]

Coaches that they ended up telling all.

[Mike Ryan]

The recruits about us every single time they were going out to get freshmen as well.

[Lucy Rodine]

Oh, that's so cute. Do you guys have like a name?

[Mike Ryan]

Stripe squad.

[Lucy Rodine]

Stripe squad is good. How do you feel when people pronounce Appalachian as Appalachian? It makes me so mad.

[Chris Cote]

It's the South. Respect it.

[Mike Ryan]

Nails on a chalkboard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Drives me insane. Absolutely terrible.

[Lucy Rodine]

She keeps doing it. Pronounce it right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Rose.

[Lucy Rodine]

Appalachian. Dan. If. If you're like Lucy, you seem different. You seem sad. There's something wrong. Yeah, there is. While we were doing the interviews, a kid called me Unk. He said, oh, so your Unk?

[Mike Ryan]

What?

[Lucy Rodine]

He was like, so what year did you graduate high school? I said, oh, a long time ago. Oh, so you're Unk. That's the kid that called me Unk. That's the kid that called me Unk.

[Chris Cote]

Peanut Pete. Peanut Pete.

[Dan Le Batard]

Peanut Pete.

[Chris Cote]

Peanut Pete.

[Lucy Rodine]

Peanut Pete here thinks he can do my job. Better than me. And he said, I'll do the interview. Well, he said it with his eyes, so. Yes, sir. Have you ever tried a tailgate with a peanut before? It's very difficult. I just ate a peanut. How do you feel?

[Chris Cote]

That's animalism.

[Lucy Rodine]

And I love peanuts. Of all the snack nuts, they're my favorite. Oh yeah, Honestly, Pistachios.

[Dan Le Batard]

Eat.

[Lucy Rodine]

Everybody wants to be his friend. Everybody wants to talk to him. What? Just cause you're handing out delicious snack nuts, everybody wants to hang out with you and not me. Hampton Farms peanuts are my favorite.

[Mike Ryan]

Woo.

[Lucy Rodine]

I don't like sharing the spotlight. I could go home, no one would notice. Peanut Pete, the mirror. He's always behind. He's a peanut lazy. This is our nuttiest fan of the tailgate right here.

[Chris Cote]

Hell yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Go nears.

[Lucy Rodine]

Today's trip is brought to you by Hampton Farm. Peanuts get nutty with Hampton Farms, the official snack nut of bowl season. How many times do you guys try to sneak in the App State Michigan game into conversation on a daily basis?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, every time. Every time. Rightfully so.

[Mike Ryan]

Let me show you something actually.

[Lucy Rodine]

Oh, let's see it. Let's see it. Let's see it. The Michigan game.

[Mike Ryan]

But when we sat down 103,000 people by blocking that field goal, the feeling you had to be there. And the ones that were there knew.

[Chris Cote]

What it fell on. Drive kicks, Draft kicks. Draft kicks.

[Mike Ryan]

Nears by a million.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm getting my bread tonight.

[Lucy Rodine]

And it's peanuts. This trip to the rock was brought to you by GameTime. Download the GameTime app and use code LUCY for $20 off your first order term supply. What time music. It's game time.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan.

[Lucy Rodine]

Though App State did not win today, but we had a blast. We got to get more group of five games on the schedule. But as they say here in Boone, lovely Boone, Roll nears, drink beers. Maybe they could add scoring touchdowns to the list. I think that would help things out quite a bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hard on those nears there by that guy.

[Mike Ryan]

That was scary. I was made uncomfortable by everything that was happening there.

[Dan Le Batard]

What happened?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it was uncomfortable. Although I don't know how you ended up at Appalachian State. I have been saying Appalachian all my life.

[Lucy Rodine]

That's wrong.

[Mike Ryan]

And Peanut Pete seemed delightful.

[Lucy Rodine]

Oh, he was so nice. And everybody was obsessed with him. Honestly, we should bring him into more trips because it made my job so easy. Like normally we have to go up and approach people and be like, hey, we're with DraftKings and be really nice people. Just come up if you got A giant peanut there, people.

[Mike Ryan]

Scary segment. Put it on the poll at Le Batard show. Do people just come up to you if you have a giant peanut there? The acc. I don't want to talk about Appalachian State. I don't know how you ended up there. Is there a short story?

[Lucy Rodine]

Well, we wanted to go to some group of five schools and our friends, Hampton Farms are based in North Carolina. And when Peanut Pete invites you to a game, you have to go like, you just can't say no. And this is actually one of the better group of 5 atmospheres in college football. It's a lovely town. Like, like really, really passionate fans. They care a lot. They just have a really kind of gross offense right now. So, like the game wasn't that fun, but it was such a great experience. We love Boone Roll nears.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's. Let's cover some college football here with Lucy. The acc. Louisville loses. Virginia loses. It was weird to see them lose to California and Wake Forest. What are you laughing about?

[Lucy Rodine]

Are you guys ready for duke in the ACC championship game? Are you guys prepared for that? 5 and 4. Duke, who's just lost to UConn, but they're 4 and 1 in conference. Are you guys ready for that?

[Mike Ryan]

They just did lose to Yukon. She's laughing at us. She's. Look at her. Look at her. She can't even keep it together. Mike, I think she's specifically laughing at you. Look at her. Her face is red.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, well, it's a coping mechanism because Iowa season ended on a minus 39 yard safety.

[Mike Ryan]

Don't do that.

[Lucy Rodine]

Not how that happened. That's how the game started.

[Mike Ryan]

What is happening in the ACC though? What is that? Louisville is a good football team. What are they doing losing to California?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, not to take mean she can take a stab at this, but they. Injuries.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I was asking her.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but Virginia lost its quarterback. Louisville lost RB1.

[Chris Cote]

Lucy, can you take a stab at it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I answered it.

[Lucy Rodine]

Okay, you guys go ahead. I'm still laughing at Duke in the ACC championship game.

[Mike Ryan]

It is funny. They did just lose to UConn.

[Lucy Rodine]

It literally just. And it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean anything at all because Duke is 4 and 1 in the conference right now. Cal has a really good quarterback. Like, Cal is a weird team that you just can't seem to kill. Despite that, the entire universe is against Cal with the, you know, getting kicked out of the PAC 12, you know, obviously choosing to leave with how everything is sort of played out this offseason with like Brian Harson and it just felt like that football team was falling apart for some reason. It always works out for them. Louisville, yeah, it's. It's injury issues. That's definitely the big one with Virginia, too. When you lose your starting quarterback like that is obviously going to put you in a bad situation. I do think we need to give credit to Wake Forest. This was a team that was supposed to be the worst Power 5 team this year. That was their projection and they've been great. They're coming off a win against smu. Virginia, like Jake Dickard, has been a really good hire for that program and they brought in as many transfers as anybody. Like so many transfers on that roster. They've had a really good season. But yeah, the ACC is one big, giant mess. But because of this, Miami might be able to play their way back in potentially.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what Mike is rooting for. Mike is just watching all of football, waiting for the teams that are ahead of Miami to lose. Are you willing to exceed what it is that I was saying earlier in the show that a Cuban from Miami is going to end up being the Heisman front runner? Because we just saw our first Heisman moment of the season that.

[Lucy Rodine]

I mean, wow, that's going to go down as one of the greatest catches in just college football history. Which is crazy because I think something that's going to get lost in that is, two plays prior, they had one of the other greatest catches of the entire season. What Fernando Mendoza has done at Indiana has just been remarkable. It's kind of.

[Dan Le Batard]

What.

[Lucy Rodine]

I don't know if Miami was, like, active with him in the portal, but they certainly should have been. Yeah, that was. That catch was crazy. And I think I want to give a quick shout out to the official who caught it correctly on the spot. Like, that was the most locked in I've ever seen.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, he's just guessing. Come on.

[Lucy Rodine]

That was. He was locked. If you look at the it like the image, he is locked in. He is ready to go. That was a moment where it was just like, it's. Indiana almost feels like a team of destiny now because, like, that was just so crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

Great job by Chris Cody.

[Lucy Rodine]

Yes. Great job, Chris. I'm so proud of you. And I. Obviously, Penn State's having a bad year, but they're still a ridiculously talented team. And so for Indiana to show something this season that they showed in both the Iowa game and the Penn State game that they didn't really have to show you last year was just, can they win a close game? Can they not win by 50 and come out? They've done that against Penn State, against Iowa. This is a very, very good football team. Yeah. Fernando Mendoza, he should be the front runner for the Heisman at this point.

[Dan Le Batard]

Point, Lucy, we got a handful of top 25 matchups. Hugely impactful in the CFP. You're headed to Athens for Texas. Georgia. You got Oklahoma playing Alabama and you got Pittsburgh playing Notre Dame in a game that's sneaky big for the cfp. How do you see these games going?

[Lucy Rodine]

Yeah, I'm a big believer in Notre Dame, so I actually don't think that Pitt, Notre Dame's game is going to be very close. I think Pitt has the potential to screw something up every time. Like, that's just what their season comes down to, sort of like what Louisville does. I don't see that being this one. I think Notre Dame has sort of gone under the radar just in the sense they haven't really played anybody in a couple weeks. But the issues we saw the first few weeks with their defense have been corrected. Like, their defense is playing super, super well and their offense has been great all season. Like, I really am buying into Notre Dame. I'm not buying into Texas yet. Like, I still can't get past Kentucky, like, beating the ever living out of Florida this weekend and then reminding, like, oh, my God, Texas lost to that Florida team. Like, I just can't buy in. I can't buy into what Texas is doing. I know that they've looked better the last few weeks. Obviously good one against Vanderbilt. Obviously good coming back against Mississippi State. I just don't believe in that right now. So I'm leaning Georgia for that one. Yeah, it's in Oklahoma. Alabama. I don't have any faith in Oklahoma either. I think their offense is stagnant. So I do think this weekend's going to play out sort of the way we think it is. But this weekend, like this previous weekend, I feel like we lost a little bit of that spark of that juice. I think you had that in the ACC, but not elsewhere. So I wouldn't be surprised if everything goes to shit because who knows? Who knows?

[Chris Cote]

Lucy. Lucy. I will be in Athens this weekend, too, so I will see you guys there. Oregon, they finally beat someone of note this past weekend.

[Mike Ryan]

Did they? I think so. I think they did. They beat Iowa by a couple of points.

[Dan Le Batard]

I have a bad feeling Miami fans are going to be looking back at that Oregon escape over the weekend and say that one could have been the one.

[Chris Cote]

Like, Lucy, do we believe in Oregon at all.

[Lucy Rodine]

Well, so here's the situation. That one hurt a lot. Hurt my feelings. I posted on my Instagram story 13 times. I was so sad about it. None of you checked in with me. By the way, I do think that's a good win because I think Iowa is, despite what happened, a very good team. They have three losses this season by a combined 10 points. And every single one of those losses, Iowa had the lead with two minutes left, which is, like, devastating. And I want to throw up and cry everywhere. But Iowa is a good football team, and I think that that win is the most impressive thing I've seen from Oregon this season. Not even just because I do think I was a good team. And Kinnick is a tough place to play. If you can get dragged into the slop, into the mud and go into Kinnick Stadium and have to play the most gross, disgusting football game you've ever played in your life and come out with a win, that is a. That is a thing that teams cannot do. It's very difficult to win there. And if you play Iowa style and you out. Iowa, Iowa. I believe in you, even if it did make me sick to my stomach and I'm devastated inside. And Iowa couldn't even punt. That guy. We couldn't even punt. It was the one thing we're supposed to be good at. We couldn't even do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

How are your friends supposed to handle a devastating defeat like that? Because you say we didn't check in on you. And when I lose a game like that, I don't want anybody texting me. I'd rather people leave me alone. In fact, I deeply appreciate anybody that doesn't text me on those weekends.

[Lucy Rodine]

I never text you because I know that about you. I did post so many times that people were like, hey, girl. That's a lot. Is everything okay? Billy checked in. Billy was like, hey, what's going on with you? And I told him to shut up, but I knew he meant it from the heart.

[Mike Ryan]

At LeBatard show, do you think that Lucy's analysis Everything has gone to shit. Who knows? Is the best analysis you've heard on college football this year?

[Lucy Rodine]

I agree. It is good.

[Mike Ryan]

There are three teams that I feel like. I know. We'll get to that in a second. Chris. I know it's at the end of this segment. There are three teams and only three that we know to be good. You might be putting Notre Dame in that class. I think it's just Ohio State, Indiana and Texas A and M. Maybe Texas Tech. Who is Your fourth? Fourth.

[Lucy Rodine]

I would put Notre Dame or Texas Tech at my fourth. That BYU win was impressive. I think BYU only had nine plays in Texas Tech territory that entire game. And it was. It looked close if you weren't watching it, but Texas Tech just wasn't, like, converting in the red zone. Like, they easily could have won that game by 60 points. They were so dominant over BYU in that. But I think, yeah, you have to look at what Texas A and M did. They didn't struggle with Missouri this weekend. They were able. Like, that's what A and M is doing well, is they're really not messing around. They did it a little bit against Arkansas, but they're winning every game. They should. They have not played the most difficult SEC schedule. They've played a lot of teams that have fired their head coaches, which is about half of the SEC at this point. I think A and M, you'll really be able to sort of figure out what you're dealing with when they play Texas to end the year, because I think that'll be their toughest opponent of the season so far. But, yeah, I would go Ohio State, Indiana, A M, Notre Dame. I would put Texas Tech up there. I would put Oregon up there. After what we saw this weekend, I do think there are maybe Ole Miss, obviously the Citadel, you can't really tell much from it, but, oh, obviously Georgia and Alabama, duh, really bowled the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

To go with the three undefeateds.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. But I asked her for her fourth and she gave me ten teams.

[Chris Cote]

All right.

[Lucy Rodine]

I wanted you to have options.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, go ahead and do it, Chris.

[Chris Cote]

Fine time to get in it. It's Lucy's Internet minute.

[Lucy Rodine]

Okay, so the Internet this week, this one woman has been doing the social experiment that has pretty much like, set everything on fire. This lady in Kentucky has been calling local or she's been asking people, hey, give me your church's phone number. And she'll call the churches and say, hey, I have a baby that needs formula. Will you help me? And it's been wild because almost all the churches have said no. They were like, we're not going to help you. And she's been recording the conversations and people have been putting together spreadsheets. So she might be changing the course of American history because this is one of the wildest social experiments I've ever seen.

[Mike Ryan]

While you make happening on Tik Tok.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, what. What does she hope. Hoping is going to wind up coming from this?

[Lucy Rodine]

Well, she's basically just being like, she. She posted a video about, like, why she did it, she was like, I just don't wanted to see, like, if a church would be willing to help me in this situation. So what she does is she calls the church and she plays the sound of a baby crying in the background. She's like, hi, I ran out of formula last night. My baby hasn't eaten in 12 hours. Like, is there any way you can help me with formula? Certain churches have been like, absolutely. Give us your name, your number, your address. We will, like, do. Do everything we can. Other churches have been like, sorry, you're not a member here. We're not going to help you, and you're hungry, baby. And so what I guess her sort of, like, motive was, is one not to, like, shame these churches or whatever, but just to show you, like, hey, what's going on? And also to be like, hey, we should all be more giving. And, like, look at some of these great churches, like she called a mosque. And they were immediately like, we're going to help you. And so it's been really interesting to see how it's played out. And, like, some of these churches have, like, doubled down and be like, we're not. Not helping you. You don't go here. And it's been really interesting to sort of see, like, how it's played out in the public reaction, but it's a be a good person moment.

[Chris Cote]

Tax breaks, huh?

[Lucy Rodine]

Yeah, that's sort of it. I know this isn't the fun one, but it's what the Internet talks about.

[Mike Ryan]

What you guys asked, but Chris made.

[Lucy Rodine]

It fun, and then he made that sound and you're like, oh, cool. Hope that baby gets formula.

[Mike Ryan]

Lucy is heading to Athens this weekend. Georgia hosts the Texas Longhorn. Zaz will be there as well. Chris, thank you. Just great imaging.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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