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Dan LeBatard
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Stugotz
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Cam Jordan
All set for your flight?
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Billy Corben
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Stugotz
I'm gonna leave you to it.
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Greg Cody
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Billy Corben
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Chris Cody
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Billy Corben
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Stugotz
This is the Dan Levator show with the ST Podcast.
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Chris Cody
This episode of the Dan Leitard show with Stugots is presented by Venmo.
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Billy Corben
Before we get to Cam Jordan, I've been wanting to talk to this guy for a long time. Stots.
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Greg Cody
One of the really good guys in the NFL.
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Billy Corben
An immortal. Yep, an immortal. Oh, now you're saying.
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Greg Cody
Yes, That's a bit much. That's a bit much for Cam Jordan. A bit much. Yeah.
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Billy Corben
A legend.
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Greg Cody
I'm not going to say it when Cam's on, but I'm saying he's already on. He's a man.
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Billy Corben
He's a menace of a man. He's good at everything. He's good at podcasting. He's good at sacking your quarterback. He's good at Walter Payton, man of the year. And I want to start off by doing this. I want to. I want to ask Cam Jordan if this is allowed. You've got the Philadelphia mayor coming out here, and she is trying to do the Eagles chant. And I think it's the first rival that we have to. One of the most famous sounds in our show's history. Listen to what the Philadelphia mayor did here while trying to spell Eagles. Let me hear you all say E L D S E S. Eagles.
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Stugotz
Let's go, Bird.
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Greg Cody
What's the problem.
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Billy Corben
Cam? What are your thoughts there on what just happened there in Philadelphia?
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Cam Jordan
I got nothing on that one. I'd say big time players show up in big time moments to make big time plays. And sometimes the lights get a little bright. Sometimes you miss that ball. We've seen it happen over at the Dallas Stadium earlier this year in the season. So I'm just going to say to keep it in the division, the lights got a little bright.
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Billy Corben
Is that as bad as one of the most historic sounds in show history where a Miami city councilwoman tried to introduce Dwyane Wade after winning the championship. And this is how it went.
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Mike Ryan
He's calm, collected, has a will to.
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Billy Corben
Win because his name, of course is Wade Jones.
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Greg Cody
The people clapping gets me every time.
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Chris Cody
The one stray who that is, who that is.
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Mike Ryan
Well.
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Cam Jordan
Again, when you face these big time moments, can you succeed? Are you put in the best position to succeed? Maybe she caught the wrong notes. Maybe she saw the potential in Pelicans Herb Jones and was thinking about the way he plays perimeter defense a lot like a prime D Wade.
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Billy Corben
So maybe that's the time. No, you're very kind, compassionate to failure in big moments. You are a compassionate person. As someone who understands not everyone gets to succeed. Hell, your game has had a lot of success in it, but it can't come with a lot of success unless there's also failure. Like, you know, you don't get to be successful all the time when you're a 14 year veteran and you're an eight time pro bowler and still some guy will embarrass you on the next three plays.
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Cam Jordan
Absolutely. I was gonna say some guy embarrassed me on that, on that app called X. But when you think about, you know, football. Yeah, you, you could play 65, 75, almost 80 snaps. And if you walk away with the sack, in your mind you have dominated the office alignment every, every snap of the game. And on the, on the flip side, you know, you could play 65, 75, 80, 80 snapshot and not come out with a sack, but have a hell of a game. Be, be established. They come in the run and the opposite lineman feel like he dominated you the whole game. So it's all about perception, you know. So just like the mayor down in Miami, she thought she finished it strong and sometimes, you know, you don't. Sometimes, sometimes you got to look at the glass like it's half full. I see. No, we say you probably need to, need to have a better mentor.
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Billy Corben
Forgive me for the interruption. I do believe if people do not know that this is one of the greatest pass rushers of this generation to do it. 14 years is a bit of A seismic accomplishment that I don't even understand how the human body does it to do that and also be Walter Payton man of the year because your intent on using the platform for good is an unusual set of things that you have put together that is wildly impressive. What are you proudest of, man?
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Cam Jordan
I'm obviously going to push legacy. I'm overly proud that I've got a six time Pro Bowl Vikings ring of honor dad as well as a nine year old son who always wants to work just as hard as his dad did. Just like I was in his shoes trying to work just as hard as my dad did. I'm, I'm excited and proud, extremely proud of my Cam Jordan foundation and the way that we flipped the name this year from God is love to Cam Jordan foundation raised a quarter million dollars which will now go towards scholarships for this for the next generation will go towards scholarships for kids college tuition this upcoming year, upcoming school year.
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Billy Corben
You'll have to forgive me for this, but this was a question we were. It's a bad transition, but it's a question we were asking before you came on here.
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Greg Cody
It. Wait, wait, wait.
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Cam Jordan
So you can't, you can't, you can't go from like what are you proud of? To I'm sorry I have to ask this.
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Greg Cody
Well, we have.
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Billy Corben
You're right, because that is a sweet answer and you seem like a sweet man when you're not dismembering quarterbacks. But the thing that Billy wanted to bring up from earlier in the show is we were trying to figure out which tight end would be easiest and hardest to kill.
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Stugotz
Like if there's context with our bear.
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Billy Corben
With our bare hands. Like not. Yes. You can't use.
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Stugotz
Hell no. You can trick them. Okay, Cam, here's, here's the deal.
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Greg Cody
Did you see those hands?
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Billy Corben
Yes.
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Stugotz
We were talking yesterday about the immortals of the game and naturally Mark Andrews came up and then we were talking about which tight ends would actually be immortal by the definition of the word. And who would be the hardest to, you know, kill or trap. And who might be the easiest.
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Cam Jordan
Yeah, the hardest would, the hardest kill would be tight end Steve Jordan of the, you know, six time Pro bowl of the Minnesota Vikings. I don't foresee the Oedipus situation ever happening. Like where I have to kill my own father. That's tough.
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Greg Cody
Right?
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Cam Jordan
The easiest kill would probably. Man, if you look at the pantheon.
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Billy Corben
Of tight ends, we thought we could trick Gronk.
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Stugotz
Yeah, like if you went to anything, including death.
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Cam Jordan
Yeah, yeah, like I could probably Clean kill Gronk, you know, like out the conscious, like, conscience free. I'd be like, hey, Gronk, you know, there's your favorite meal behind the door. And it'd just be like a cliffhanger, you know, like all you have to do is jump through this layer of balloons and you get a million dollars.
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Greg Cody
It's a well thought out answer.
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Stugotz
I mean, like, we thought of a scenario where Gronk goes into a forest and all of a sud, sudden he's hanging upside down with his foot stuck to a vine. Cause he, like, saw something.
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Cam Jordan
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think there's a potential to, like, cleanly do it. You know, I'd probably. The only way I'd counter that would maybe be Atlanta Falcons, Kyle Pitts, if you like. If you throw him in a pit and then tell them to rise up. Cause they never do.
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Mike Ryan
Whoa.
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Greg Cody
He hates the Falcons.
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Stugotz
Somehow meaner than actually talking about murdering someone.
- [09:01]
Cam Jordan
Ye. That's wild to think about. Hey, all the good that I do for my foundation and throw in an easy kill situation.
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Billy Corben
He is great with kids, but also, he just told the American listening public that the way he would kill Gronk is a layer of balloons that would lead to a cliff.
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Jeremy
That would do it, though.
- [09:18]
Billy Corben
And he's right. That's exactly how you would get him. You just throw a football through a layer of balloons.
- [09:23]
Greg Cody
He's been waiting for that question his entire life.
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Cam Jordan
No, you know, I. I'd say. I'd say things like, you know, he was. He was. He'd be inspired to go full force because that's what kind of guy he is. He's a full throttle type of individual that played from snap to whistle. So all you have to do is, you know, say, hey, there's a. There's a touchdown on the other side of this door. And I just feel like he would go get it, you know, with the confidence and the swagger, if you will, of knowing that he can get things done. I'm just gonna reiterate with the confidence and the swag.
- [09:59]
Billy Corben
Yes, there it is, if you will. Look at him. He is a man. He is a man who sweats and needs to smell good.
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Stugotz
Cam, we've highlighted, obviously, all the great things that you do and how you don't actually want to murder people. Have you ever said sorry after sacking a quarterback?
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Cam Jordan
Never. No. I almost said never. Have I ever. That's not true. I've only felt bad one time in my entire existence of being a defensive end from the time I was 15 till now 35, and it was against the Denver Broncos Covid year when they were like 17 quarterbacks down and they hired a quarterback like off the street a week before. And I. And I like, I like, sacked them. And I didn't really want to, but I did. Like, I needed this. I needed to sack them, but I felt bad and I, like, looked at the sidelines. I was like, why would you bring him out here?
- [10:51]
Greg Cody
Why are you making me do this?
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Billy Corben
What is the name? Who was it? Do you remember the name? You just felt bad for him?
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Cam Jordan
Yeah, no, he was. He was a really hard working individual.
- [11:02]
Mike Ryan
Oh, boy.
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Greg Cody
Oh, no. Was it Trevor Simeon? I mean, no, no, he literally.
- [11:07]
Cam Jordan
I think they literally picked him off. I think, like, the story was like. I mean, he might have been like bagging groceries weeks prior and then. Yeah, and then picked him up.
- [11:16]
Billy Corben
The opposite of Kurt Warner.
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Chris Cody
Kendall Hinton went 1 for 9 for 13 yards and two picks, was sacked once in a 313 loss to the New Orleans.
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Greg Cody
That's your guy, Cam. Right.
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Cam Jordan
I'm telling you, I felt bad. I wish I could have been a, you know, critical component. Like, I wish I wish I could have mentored him after, you know, like, you know, just like the old sp. Old Spice that has a mentorship program that you can learn more about it.
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Billy Corben
Www.Spice.Com all right, Cam, Listen and subscribe to off the Edge with Cam Jordan from the NFL Podcast Network. And January is mentorship month. Visit Old Spice.com School of Swagger. Because it is why he's here.
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Stugotz
So I looked up Kendall Hinton, and when you look him up on Wikipedia, it starts with. Is an American professional football wide receiver. Yeah, he was a. He played quarterback in college. So they were so down that they.
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Greg Cody
Technically not a sack. I mean, of a quarterback.
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Cam Jordan
That's what I'm saying. Again, I felt bad, and that's the only one I've ever felt bad about. Would you say the multiple times I've sat Tom Brady. Absolutely not. Would you say, you know how I sacked Eli Manning, he deserved it. Would you say, like, you know, the nine or eight or nine times I've sat Cam Newton when we were of the same draft class? Absolutely not. It is the best draft class ever. Truly exist. And no, I didn't feel bad, but would you say, you know, maybe the 23 times I sacked Matt Ryan over the career, which is the most between one defensive end ever? Between a defensive end and a quarterback?
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Billy Corben
For sure not.
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Chris Cody
Do you remember all the sacks with Matt Ryan which one was your favorite?
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Cam Jordan
Some would say a four sack. Four sack night on a Thanksgiving Thursday night game where I ate a turkey leg on their field. You know, closed out a. Closed out a two minute like the last possession with a sack.
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Greg Cody
They never rise up. Right.
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Stugotz
Something like that.
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Cam Jordan
Something. I think, I think they were trying to pump in. Pump in their crowd noise at that time. Or maybe that was a little bit after.
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Billy Corben
Some would say.
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Cam Jordan
Yeah, some would say alleged, allegedly proven.
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Stugotz
Since the season has ended. Have you caught Tom Brady broadcasting at all? Because we had Katie Nolan on just before you joined us and she said odd criticism that she could hear his teeth.
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Cam Jordan
What does that mean?
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Billy Corben
You can hear someone's teeth when they talk. Think Rex Ryan.
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Cam Jordan
Okay.
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Greg Cody
Yeah, Makes sense, right?
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Cam Jordan
No, I mean, I thought he did a great job, you know, as. As he's only going to get better. So I think I focused on. I was looking for error and he didn't show much this last weekend.
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Billy Corben
Yeah.
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Greg Cody
Cam, you've had 121 and a half sacks in your NFL career. And I am wondering, is there a quarterback you haven't sacked that you're dying to sack that it keeps you up at night?
- [14:04]
Cam Jordan
Yeah, I'll never get to. I'll never get to sack Peyton Manning. That's. It's just one of those ones. Like I was like, dang, how did I fall off? Like, I had him, you know, I didn't get to play him at Indianapolis, I don't think. I think Painter took over for that one year and then he went over to Denver and they, I think they like made me play a three technique to nose and a lot like this year didn't work out successfully for me. When I think about. Yeah, when I think about the quarterbacks that I wanted to sack, sack Tom Brady, aka sack number 99 and a half and 100. Oh, I'll never stack Drew Brees, you.
- [14:44]
Dan LeBatard
Know, do you want.
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Cam Jordan
So that's too. Oh, absolutely. What?
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Stugotz
I'll do it.
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Cam Jordan
I love hitting. All my friends. That is my greatest happiness is plastering one of my friends, you know, from Shane Vereen to, you know, if I could ever catch Marv Jones on a slant route. Keenan on a. Keenan Allen on a bubble screen. If I can catch one of my friends, we'll talk about it in the group chat.
- [15:11]
Billy Corben
Walter Payton, man of the year. Cam Jordan with us, a man of great decency and generosity.
- [15:17]
Cam Jordan
Absolutely. It's a part of my mentorship program. You know, we went to Cal together and then if I can hit you, then we'll Talk about it and, like, see where you can get better. It's like the thousands of young individuals that are eagerly waiting for a mentor because Old Spice recognizes transformative impact mentorship on their lives. That's what I'm trying to do, too.
- [15:36]
Dan LeBatard
Okay, you brought up Cal. I wanted to ask you if you were following any of the Cal sort of like resurgence this season, like the calgorithm and all of the fans getting really into AI generated shitposting. What was your thought on all of that?
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Cam Jordan
Go Bears. First of all, we finally got bold eligible, you know, so we're. We're. We're doing. We're. I can't say we're doing things right. We're headed into a positive direction.
- [16:04]
Dan LeBatard
Do you love the acc?
- [16:09]
Cam Jordan
So we're doing things right and we're headed into a positive.
- [16:12]
Billy Corben
Jordan is with us again. January is mentorship month. Visit Old Spice.com/School of Swagger. It is a pleasure to watch you work, sir. You are a craftsman of the highest order. I say you're an immortal. Stu Got says you need to have more than 121 sacks to be an immortal.
- [16:30]
Greg Cody
I'm sorry.
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Cam Jordan
So. So what's the number there? Are we thinking 125? We're both thinking 125 and I'll be there shortly.
- [16:37]
Greg Cody
125 is the number you reach 125, which you will buy game four next year and you're there.
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Cam Jordan
Okay, that's what I'm saying. 125. And. And then I think the only two guys that have. That have 125 sacks and aren't in the hall of Fame is DeMarcus Ware and the Sizzler, you know, Terrell Suggs, and they'll probably be in there in the next year or two. So then again, after 125, Cam, I'm going to be looking for a. Jackie.
- [17:03]
Billy Corben
Can you explain to us before. Yes, you are going to be looking for one of those. 20% of your sacks are all on Matt Ryan. Can you explain to me, as a lifelong saint and a metaphorical one, in all of the work that you do off of the field, can you explain to everybody listening to this where it is that you are on your legacy, like, how it is that you want to be remembered having left this game?
- [17:30]
Cam Jordan
And all I want to be remembered as a member of the Saints is to be one of the greatest, and that's on and off the field. The accolades are phenomenal. The fact that I got to over 100 sacks and in my Wildest dreams, I thought I'd get to, like, 30 or 40, and then I just had to dream again. And in my wildest dreams, I thought I'd get to, like, seven years of football. And I was like. I was like, I just got to make one Pro Bowl. Dad made six. I'm sitting at eight. In my wildest dreams, I've thought about, like, man, if my kids could see me play and know that I'm that guy, that'll be all right, you know? And I literally had my son jogging on the field with me towards the end of the season this year for warmups. I've lived out my wildest dreams, and I'm just. I'm making new missions as I. As I. As I continue, which, you know, this idea of legacy is my proudest is my proudest part. There's no one play that I can look at and be like, I didn't give it my all. So off the field, that's exactly how I. That's exactly how I live as well. Whether I'm at home or whether I'm in the community, I'm giving my all. So if I'm in the community, whether it's the backpack drives, it's the schools that I visit, it's the kids that I try and mentor, it's the scholarships that I'm trying to create, it goes hand in hand with my identity. And that's why it's so easy to partner up with brands like Old Spice, because they have a mentorship program as well that you can learn more at.
- [18:55]
Billy Corben
Www.oldspice.com SchoolOfSwagger January is Mentorship Month. Oldspice.com SchoolOfSwager Articulate it as a voice for New Orleans. How much do you hate Atlanta?
- [19:13]
Cam Jordan
You can't articulate some things. Some things you have to feel. And if you ever walk down the streets of New Orleans and ask anybody about a falcon, you'd realize that they're fail cons.
- [19:28]
Billy Corben
That's an excellent dismount, sir. Thank you. Thank you. You and your giant hands can leave. You are an assassin. It is nice seeing you. You can indeed kill most people with those giant bare hands. Thank you for being on grog with food and balloons. Balloons. A sandwich.
- [19:45]
Cam Jordan
I'm sorry. You're my dog.
- [19:48]
Greg Cody
He gets it. Yeah.
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Billy Corben
Good seeing you, sir. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it.
- [19:53]
Cam Jordan
Absolutely appreciate you for having me on.
- [19:56]
Stugotz
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Billy Corben
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Dan LeBatard
While I've been looking for my phone.
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Stugotz
For in dax's domain, we see all.
- [21:16]
Billy Corben
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- [21:18]
Mike Ryan
All of them?
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Stugotz
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- [21:35]
Jeremy
Hey Jeremy.
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Chris Cody
Yes, Mike?
- [21:36]
Jeremy
Have you ever had a fireside conversation during a football Sunday during the winter?
- [21:41]
Chris Cody
Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it.
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Jeremy
I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like. We're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good. And I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this Miller time.
- [21:59]
Greg Cody
Oh yeah.
- [22:00]
Jeremy
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- [22:07]
Chris Cody
Thanks, Mike. That was kind.
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Jeremy
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- [22:52]
Billy Corben
Don LeBatard.
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Chris Cody
You have some hot takes today, Joe. Chestnuts on fire. He calls Connor McDavid overrated before the show.
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Cam Jordan
What the hell was that, Greg?
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, no, I love it.
- [23:02]
Cam Jordan
Stugach.
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Mike Ryan
Roy, let me explain it to you. And not that you need, you know more about hockey.
- [23:06]
Chris Cody
And this is coming from a guy that's watched Conor Place six times, right?
- [23:10]
Mike Ryan
If that.
- [23:12]
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
- [23:20]
Billy Corben
I have some follow up questions with Greg Cody on a Greg Cody Wednesday. And I'm told we have a Greg Cody Thursday in store as well. Chris Cody, you mentioned, and we bypassed it, that you are tired of your father's yammering dentist.
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Chris Cody
God, yes. He was talking earlier about his dentist and I had to switch dentists from that guy because, and I can only imagine how bad it was for you. He knew I was your son and it was just dolphins talk out the, out the ass and I literally switched dentists.
- [23:50]
Mike Ryan
Did you really?
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Chris Cody
Yes, because I was just like too much. I'm like, I have the thing around that's like. And then he's just like asking me for two. It takes. Yeah, So I was just like. And it has to be worse for you. You have to admit. He doesn't stop talking.
- [24:03]
Mike Ryan
No, he's a talkative guy and he asks you direct questions when you're incapable of answering.
- [24:09]
Chris Cody
They're like, oh, actually no part.
- [24:11]
Greg Cody
Why does he do that?
- [24:12]
Chris Cody
I don't think.
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Mike Ryan
I don't know Dennis do that.
- [24:14]
Chris Cody
He's not concussion prone. Yeah, he gets a lot of concussions.
- [24:17]
Mike Ryan
Okay, but I, I, So you're giving him bad two.
- [24:19]
Dan LeBatard
It takes too.
- [24:20]
Chris Cody
Yes. I'm just like, I'm basically just like. That's true. Whatever he's saying. I'm like, oh, go point.
- [24:25]
Greg Cody
I want to hear you discuss this with the dental equipment in your mouth.
- [24:28]
Chris Cody
It's like those like the gauze and then that suction thing. It's like, close your mouth.
- [24:35]
Mike Ryan
Did he ever take you to see his hall of Fame?
- [24:38]
Greg Cody
Oh, boy.
- [24:38]
Billy Corben
Yes.
- [24:39]
Chris Cody
It's just his office, but, yes, I've been back.
- [24:41]
Mike Ryan
No, I mean. I mean the one underneath the one downstairs. No. Yeah, go on.
- [24:45]
Greg Cody
He's got a secret basement.
- [24:46]
Dan LeBatard
This guy's dungeon downstairs, because.
- [24:49]
Chris Cody
Wait, he showed me an office.
- [24:50]
Billy Corben
That's a horror movie.
- [24:51]
Chris Cody
It was just an office. It was on the same dentist dungeon.
- [24:54]
Billy Corben
What do you mean?
- [24:54]
Mike Ryan
Underneath dungeon. It's a hall of fame.
- [24:56]
Greg Cody
Wait, so he offered for you to see it, and you followed them down into the basement?
- [25:00]
Billy Corben
You can't put it on the pole. Juju, do you follow your dentist into the dungeon?
- [25:04]
Mike Ryan
No, his. His office was on the second floor of a building.
- [25:07]
Greg Cody
Okay.
- [25:07]
Mike Ryan
On the first floor in what I think used to be a garage. He had transformed it into his own personal hall of fame, actually. An interesting guy. He. He played handball all his life. He was a very accomplished handball player.
- [25:21]
Stugotz
I get why. This is your dentist.
- [25:23]
Mike Ryan
Yeah. And. And he, you know, he was an original fan of the NBA when it was invented in 1946 or whatever that was. So he had all these kind of signed Bob Koozie basketballs.
- [25:35]
Greg Cody
Oh, wow.
- [25:36]
Mike Ryan
All kind of stuff. He's an interesting dude. He just retired for, you know, a few years ago.
- [25:43]
Stugotz
So what happens to the Hall?
- [25:46]
Billy Corben
Are you winded from talking? Are you winded from talking?
- [25:49]
Mike Ryan
No, no, he's fine.
- [25:51]
Billy Corben
Jessica asked me a question in the middle of this while we were talking, and it was a great question. Put on the poll. Juju, do you want your dentist to be an accomplished handballer?
- [26:04]
Mike Ryan
I mean, he's a handball player.
- [26:05]
Stugotz
Yeah.
- [26:06]
Dan LeBatard
I went to a oral surgeon once who was a former Notre Dame offensive lineman who did irreparable damage to my gums. He was.
- [26:13]
Mike Ryan
Oh, my God.
- [26:14]
Dan LeBatard
Very rough with his hands.
- [26:15]
Mike Ryan
Oh, no.
- [26:16]
Stugotz
Massive hands, I would think.
- [26:18]
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
- [26:19]
Dan LeBatard
He ripped those wisdom teeth out of my skull.
- [26:21]
Greg Cody
Right. I understand what you're asking here, Dan. If you're a dentist, you shouldn't put your hands in harm's way.
- [26:26]
Billy Corben
No, I'm not even asking that. I'm not asking asking it. Jessica is making the point.
- [26:30]
Greg Cody
Just simply, they're the money makers.
- [26:32]
Billy Corben
Do you want your dentist to be someone whose hands are hardened by the calloused excellence of having to slam handballs all day? I would want those hands to be gentle, protected and pristine. I don't want that.
- [26:46]
Dan LeBatard
Like a saxophone player.
- [26:48]
Mike Ryan
No. I want callous hands.
- [26:51]
Greg Cody
Really?
- [26:51]
Mike Ryan
Yeah. I want hands that have lived. Yes. Muscular. Callous hands.
- [26:56]
Stugotz
Hands that can get bit by accident and they'll survive.
- [26:58]
Chris Cody
I want an artist. I want someone who can draw well. An accomplished pianist.
- [27:02]
Mike Ryan
He's pulling teeth. He's not, you know, writing a memoir or painting a Renoir.
- [27:08]
Billy Corben
I have to get to a couple of things here that I have not gotten to today. And I will tell you again that the Greg Cody show, featuring Greg Cody, is filled with magical content. Much of it on purpose. And laughing until you cough is universally funny. But so is Greg Cody chasing out of his yard an iguana that he describes as an iguana the size of a giant iguana.
- [27:39]
Mike Ryan
Right. What's so weird about.
- [27:41]
Stugotz
I can see you're a writer.
- [27:43]
Billy Corben
You're a writer and you said you were chasing an iguana the size of a giant iguana.
- [27:48]
Mike Ryan
Right. I mean, we. Look, iguanas are all over the place in South Florida. We got iguanas out the ass.
- [27:56]
Billy Corben
And so again without the ass.
- [27:58]
Mike Ryan
And so some of the iguanas are small, Right. They look like lizards almost.
- [28:03]
Cam Jordan
Right.
- [28:03]
Greg Cody
You know, like a scat back.
- [28:05]
Billy Corben
Yeah.
- [28:05]
Mike Ryan
This was an iguana that looked like a dinosaur.
- [28:08]
Billy Corben
Echler.
- [28:09]
Mike Ryan
It looked like a dinosaur.
- [28:10]
Billy Corben
Right.
- [28:10]
Chris Cody
That would have been a funnier analogy to use on the show.
- [28:13]
Mike Ryan
With tail, it was about, I would say, four to five feet, right. Like almost like a human's wingspan.
- [28:19]
Greg Cody
So how'd the chase go?
- [28:20]
Stugotz
Well, I human.
- [28:21]
Mike Ryan
I picked up a. I picked up a golf club, an old persimmons wood that Paul Frankie had given me that.
- [28:28]
Cam Jordan
Was the size of a golf club.
- [28:30]
Billy Corben
I was just looking. I was looking up Paul Frankie's name in my notes because I wanted to big up, bring up the golf club of Paul Frankie.
- [28:38]
Stugotz
Paul Frankie, RIP He.
- [28:41]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he passed away. He bequeathed me his club. We played golf a couple of times. And you know, he, like a lot of people in their 90s, he hit it straight, but only about 50 yards.
- [28:54]
Billy Corben
Put it on the pole, please. Juju. Does the guy in his 90s hit it straight, but only about 50 yards.
- [28:59]
Greg Cody
Short and straight, and then he gets a bogey on everything.
- [29:02]
Billy Corben
I want all of you to visualize Chris Cody. I know you're mortified by this. Your father chasing a dinosaurs through his swampland of a backyard with a golf club from the 1960s.
- [29:13]
Mike Ryan
Exactly right.
- [29:13]
Greg Cody
Paul Frankie's good.
- [29:14]
Stugotz
How'd you befriend Paul Frankie since he was so much older?
- [29:17]
Chris Cody
It couldn't be a less interesting story.
- [29:19]
Billy Corben
Thank you, Chris. I appreciate you avoiding it.
- [29:22]
Mike Ryan
That's precisely the reason Billy asked my wife and Barbara.
- [29:25]
Billy Corben
Cody, before the show. Cody, I came in. I came in, Cody before the show. That is a giant iguana.
- [29:33]
Chris Cody
That's from my backyard.
- [29:34]
Greg Cody
That's what he said.
- [29:35]
Chris Cody
That's my video from my backyard. That's where we live.
- [29:38]
Stugotz
Picture of it.
- [29:39]
Mike Ryan
I'll show it.
- [29:39]
Billy Corben
But how big? Look at the one on the. On the camera on the video right now.
- [29:43]
Greg Cody
Is yours bigger?
- [29:43]
Billy Corben
Can you.
- [29:44]
Mike Ryan
I don't have any perspective on.
- [29:46]
Chris Cody
Just look at the thing, man.
- [29:47]
Greg Cody
Come on.
- [29:48]
Chris Cody
You know that's a giant hand next to it.
- [29:51]
Mike Ryan
I think that was a little bigger than mine, Barbara.
- [29:53]
Chris Cody
Frankie, I don't have the.
- [29:55]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that.
- [29:56]
Billy Corben
That.
- [29:56]
Mike Ryan
That looks a little bigger than mine.
- [29:58]
Billy Corben
I wanted, again, Billy, to talk about what it is that I walked into today.
- [30:04]
Stugotz
What's that?
- [30:05]
Billy Corben
Not elaborations involving Paul Franken.
- [30:08]
Stugotz
Well, Barbara.
- [30:09]
Billy Corben
I walked.
- [30:09]
Mike Ryan
Barbara is still friends.
- [30:11]
Greg Cody
She's still with us.
- [30:13]
Chris Cody
Yeah.
- [30:13]
Stugotz
Oh, that's great. Why didn't Barbara get the. The clubs, right?
- [30:16]
Greg Cody
Are you sure?
- [30:17]
Stugotz
Are you.
- [30:17]
Greg Cody
Are you sure Paul gave you the clubs? Are you certain?
- [30:20]
Stugotz
Like.
- [30:20]
Greg Cody
Yeah.
- [30:20]
Mike Ryan
Yeah. I'll tell you how. You're a golfer, so you would know what I'm talking about.
- [30:25]
Greg Cody
Yeah.
- [30:25]
Mike Ryan
This is a long time ago, right? When drivers were really small.
- [30:28]
Greg Cody
Yeah.
- [30:29]
Mike Ryan
A. The persimmons wood driver that I chased the iguana with. The head of the driver was about that big.
- [30:36]
Stugotz
Wow.
- [30:37]
Chris Cody
That big really helps. Really helps.
- [30:38]
Greg Cody
On a podcast with it, it's like, to give the audience an example, it's like a hybrid face is what he's saying.
- [30:46]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, exactly.
- [30:47]
Greg Cody
Yes.
- [30:47]
Stugotz
Is this a barber that's married to Jimmy?
- [30:49]
Mike Ryan
Yes.
- [30:49]
Stugotz
Really?
- [30:50]
Mike Ryan
Yeah. You know, Jimmy.
- [30:52]
Stugotz
I mean, I didn't think so, but we may have crossed paths.
- [30:55]
Mike Ryan
I. I prodded the iguana. I would never club an iguana.
- [31:00]
Dan LeBatard
The driver head is the size of, like, a small driver head.
- [31:03]
Billy Corben
Well, he tried to make that joke poorly in a window that was small and gave up on it halfway through.
- [31:08]
Stugotz
Is this the barber in me?
- [31:10]
Mike Ryan
Okay. That's my iguana.
- [31:11]
Billy Corben
It's not even that big.
- [31:12]
Mike Ryan
It's big.
- [31:13]
Greg Cody
Let me see.
- [31:14]
Mike Ryan
You don't have any perspective.
- [31:16]
Billy Corben
The other one we just showed was Twice as Men Always think you gotta.
- [31:19]
Stugotz
Take a picture of it with your hand. Yeah.
- [31:21]
Billy Corben
Is this.
- [31:22]
Stugotz
Is this the Barbara and Jimmy that have Jennifer as a daughter?
- [31:24]
Mike Ryan
No. How would you know that?
- [31:26]
Greg Cody
Jenny?
- [31:27]
Billy Corben
Billy, you can't train.
- [31:28]
Mike Ryan
It's a good guess. It's a good guess.
- [31:30]
Billy Corben
You can't train that.
- [31:32]
Dan LeBatard
His was good, too.
- [31:33]
Mike Ryan
I'm not gonna. I. It's already an invasion of their private privacy.
- [31:36]
Dan LeBatard
What's the dentist name? I'm gonna Google handballer.
- [31:40]
Billy Corben
Did we get to the bottom of the cremation with the ash and a bunch of teeth on top with an eyeball and a toe?
- [31:45]
Chris Cody
Yeah, they grind it.
- [31:45]
Greg Cody
Yeah, they grind.
- [31:47]
Billy Corben
Did we get accurate information of what an urn has in it? You telling me that the urn has teeth in it?
- [31:53]
Chris Cody
It's all powder. By the time it gets to the.
- [31:55]
Mike Ryan
Urn, they do the cremation.
- [32:00]
Greg Cody
Well said.
- [32:00]
Dan LeBatard
I heard Pablo's episode tomorrow is all about people spreading ashes at sports events. And I've. What are the odds no one's gonna think we did? Some great synergy there. I didn't know. Total coincidence.
- [32:12]
Billy Corben
I want to play some sound for you guys of both Nick Saban and Stephen A. Smith. Stugatz. Which one do you choose here? Because Stephen A. Smith is doing something that Charles Barkley is doing that a lot of people are doing where they're hating on the All Star Game and basketball. Basketball in a way that makes it feel like they are against the product in a way that's super strong. And so who would you prefer, Stephen A. Smith or Nick Saban? Because Nick Saban had a regret I was not expecting when he was talking about his regrets.
- [32:44]
Greg Cody
Nick Saban.
- [32:45]
Billy Corben
Okay, that's too bad, because we've got Stephen A. Smith queued up in the preview there. That was right in front of you. So here's.
- [32:50]
Cam Jordan
Why'd you give me the choice?
- [32:51]
Billy Corben
So here's Stephen A. Smith.
- [32:54]
I
I wouldn't give a damn if the NBA canceled the All Star Weekend festivities. It's that bad. And these play and these players, it's unconscionable. And I don't give a damn how they feel about it. I mean, I got a lot of love for a lot of players. I'm not talking about all. I'm not talking about most. But some of them should be ashamed of their damn selves with how they have allowed this event. They ruined it. Shannon Sharpe. They ruined it. They ruined it. Shannon Sharp. Do you know that Jaylen Brown, participating last year in the slam dunk contest, was the first All Star to participate in the slam dunk contest since DeAndre Jordan in 2017? Michael Jordan did it three times. Kobe Bryant did it. Vince Carter did it. Tracy McGrady did it. Okay? And your man, your goat, LeBron James never has. He said he had nothing to prove. It wasn't about that. It was about carrying on the tradition. I called Adam Silver. I called some of his lieutenants. I'm like, why why are we wasting our time? I'm telling ESPN I get paid to cover the sport and I don't want to go. I'm so disgusted with All Star Weekend because of what they've done. And it's no fault of the league. Adam Silva is a great commissioner and a great dude. And a great dude. It's the players. Adam Silver is guilty for being nice and caring about the players and caring about appeasing them because he wants them happy and he wants to be a great partner. And they basically giving him the proverbial finger. And that's the whole All Star Weekend.
- [34:34]
Billy Corben
Stugatz. I do think it's wildly interesting that at a time the NBA is struggling to progress where ratings are involved, that you have so many voices who love basketball, sound like they don't love basketball, when Barkley saying he's going to boycott the All Star Game cause it's rat infested San Francisco. And these are people who really do love basketball. But the favorite part of that for me is Stephen A. Smith really does call the league office to complain about things he doesn't like.
- [35:02]
Greg Cody
Personally, I'm pretty certain he told that story just to let everyone know he called Adam Silver. I mean, but just.
- [35:07]
Billy Corben
He also said in that piece, we didn't even run it, that we edited some of this out, that he called the league office to tell them how much he objects to what happened to their All Star Game. I just love a receptionist picking up the phone, somebody picking up the phone at the office.
- [35:22]
Chris Cody
How may I help you?
- [35:22]
Billy Corben
Yes, Adam Silver's office, like, and then all of a sudden it's just Stephen A. Smith yelling about how he doesn't want to go to the All Star Game.
- [35:32]
Greg Cody
I mean, that's what you use the power for.
- [35:34]
Billy Corben
And he's also not wrong that that's where we've gotten with the All Star Game. It's not something that matters anymore. But I think it's a byproduct, more of just every. The times that we're in stugats, keeping the attention levels of everybody. You have to care. You have to try. You can't take our attention levels for granted by giving us a product that stinks.
- [35:55]
Greg Cody
I'm not certain I care about the old All Star Game. So like, for me, I could do. If all the sports decided, hey, you know what? No more All Star Games, no more All Star Break. Everyone take a couple of days off to a week off. I'd be good with that because I'm not a fan of it anyway. Even, even in its oldest form. I was never a fan of the major league baseball all star game or the NBA all star game. I like the dunk contest, but that was different. And Stephen A. Is right. It is different when it's Jordan and Dominique as opposed to guys you've never heard of.
- [36:26]
Mike Ryan
Stephen A. Is right about that. And another point I would make is the three point contest used to be interesting when everybody wasn't making ten three points a game.
- [36:34]
Greg Cody
Correct. Right. You had Carl Anthony Towns winning a couple of years ago.
- [36:38]
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
- [36:38]
Dan LeBatard
Was like the most successful three point thing they've ever done, though, with Sabrina and Steph. So they have innovated.
- [36:44]
Mike Ryan
That. That was a novelty.
- [36:45]
Cam Jordan
That was a. Oh, but we just.
- [36:46]
Billy Corben
Love complaining so much. I mean, we will complain about anything.
- [36:50]
Mike Ryan
Like, it's fun complaining.
- [36:53]
Greg Cody
I mean, the dunk contest is worthy of complaining, Dan. It is. In its heyday, it was the greatest thing on the sports calendar.
- [36:59]
Billy Corben
But I will also say that shows that ostensibly love sports, that love to complain about sports more than they love sports, is a place that media members graduate to in their 40s and 50s and 60s that not only dampens intellectual curiosity, but becomes formed as you sit on the rocking chair just bitching about entertainment. Like, I used to be more entertained by. This is like the curmudgeons lament. And I'm telling you, you have important voices doing this to the league. Like voices that are meant to be. They let go of Jeff Van Gundy because he was complaining. Jeff Van Gundy was great for 20 years and they didn't want negativity as the accent. And you got Stephen A. Smith and Charles Barkley, the preeminent voices calling Adam Silver. No offense. Love to the access to you. Your game sucks. It's not your fault. Your game sucks. You're a great leader. You've led this the way you lead. It sucks. You're too nice. Like, it's an amazing thing to listen to.
- [37:58]
Dan LeBatard
No, you're right, Dan. No one loves to complain more than people that get paid to cover sports. Oh, this TSA line is too long. Oh, I'm too important to wait behind all these common folk, all these fans that spent their own money to travel for this game that I got to go to for free. I'm just gonna cut the whole line. Cause I'm so important and I deserve.
- [38:19]
Stugotz
To cut everyone time blank.
- [38:23]
Dan LeBatard
Not gonna tell you.
- [38:24]
Greg Cody
Morty Smith.
- [38:31]
Billy Corben
Was it Marty?
- [38:35]
Dan LeBatard
No.
- [38:38]
Chris Cody
That's right. It's time for against the spread. And it is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Jeremy, what do you got? Florida Panthers plus one and a half against the LA Kings tonight. Kings have lost three of four. Panthers have won. Or Panthers have won three or four. Kings of Loft lost four or five.
- [38:57]
Billy Corben
And how about this one just happened?
- [38:59]
Chris Cody
The Panthers on TNT this year on the Road, 20 tonight on TNT on the Road. Make it 3 0. Panthers plus one and a half. Jess, bring us home.
- [39:11]
Dan LeBatard
Bills plus one and a half.
- [39:13]
Stugotz
Love it.
- [39:14]
Mike Ryan
Love it.
- [39:16]
Greg Cody
I like it.
- [39:17]
Dan LeBatard
It's over for the Chiefs. They're totally gonna win the Super Bowl.
- [39:20]
Chris Cody
Josh Allen has that look. Sut's major penalty. Five minutes for talking about the Chiefs.
- [39:38]
Jeremy
Hey, Jeremy.
- [39:39]
Chris Cody
Yes, Mike?
- [39:39]
Jeremy
Have you ever had a fireside conversation during a football Sunday during the winter?
- [39:43]
Chris Cody
Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had like the premise of it.
- [39:48]
Jeremy
I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, we're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good. And I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this Miller Time.
- [40:02]
Chris Cody
Oh, yeah.
- [40:02]
Jeremy
Miller Lite makes the winter better. It makes football Sundays better. It makes even hanging out around you better.
- [40:10]
Chris Cody
Thanks, Mike. That was kind.
- [40:12]
Jeremy
I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Lite in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend. Because we are like minded. Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer. Oh, and now the new year. It's a perfect time to have a Miller Time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. People out there, I want you to listen to me. And Jeremy, you too. Because you know, it hits just different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one, Miller Light. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
- [40:55]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, sure thing.
- [40:57]
Billy Corben
Hey, you sold that car yet?
- [40:59]
Chris Cody
Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
- [41:01]
Billy Corben
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
- [41:03]
Mike Ryan
The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency.
- [41:06]
Cam Jordan
No interest.
- [41:06]
Chris Cody
Interest over 36 months? Yeah.
- [41:09]
Mike Ryan
No.
- [41:10]
Chris Cody
Carvana gave me an offer in minutes.
- [41:12]
Mike Ryan
Picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
- [41:15]
Billy Corben
Just like that.
- [41:16]
Cam Jordan
Yeah.
- [41:17]
Billy Corben
No hassle? None.
- [41:18]
Cam Jordan
That is super convenient.
- [41:20]
Dan LeBatard
Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle. For convenience, pickup fees may apply.