Hour 2: Iffen He Gets Plagarized...

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Hour 2: Iffen He Gets Plagiarized... Release Date: March 6, 2025

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1. DK Metcalf vs. Tyler Lockett: The Great Wide Receiver Debate

Timestamp: [00:18] - [04:35]

The episode kicks off with a spirited debate about NFL wide receivers DK Metcalf and Tyler Lockett. The hosts delve into Metcalf's impressive physical attributes—his height, weight, speed, and strength—and discuss whether his body type is optimal for a wide receiver or if it might hinder his longevity in the league.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony: "[02:08] DK Metcalf's really athletic, but not that good."
• Stugotz: "[02:40] DK Metcalf has done really well. He's a great wide receiver. I don't think it's because of his body. I think you are objectifying an NFL wide receiver, and I'm not gonna stand for it."
• Billy Gill: "[04:07] ...big-bodied wide receivers come crashing to the ground carrying their own weight the way Roy Williams just went from one day to the next."

The conversation highlights the balance between athleticism and physicality in shaping a receiver's career. While Metcalf's physical prowess is undeniable, some hosts question whether his build might limit his durability over time. Conversely, Tyler Lockett is praised for his consistent performance and projected longevity, positioning him as a potential legacy player.

2. J.J. Redick: From Collegiate Star to Media Personality

Timestamp: [04:35] - [12:00]

The discussion shifts to former NBA player and current media personality J.J. Redick. The hosts examine Redick's transition from basketball to media, debating whether his likability has waned as he became more entrenched in the coaching and media landscape.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cody: "[04:35] ...J.J. Redick just seems like he's reverted to, like, Duke. J.J. Redick, he's so condescending now to the media."
• Mike Ryan: "[05:32] ...this is the true J.J. Redick, right? One of my favorite game ops decisions in the history of all sports was the Wizards years ago...when the opposing team was at the free throw line, they would put a picture of J.J. Reddick up on the Jumbotron and the crowd would instantly start booing because it's a Maryland stronghold and everybody hates J.J. Redick."
• Stugotz: "[12:15] ...for J.J. Redick, who is, to Dan's point, the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers on a team with LeBron James and Luka Doncic ... you gotta exude a certain confidence in every room."

The hosts argue that Redick's media demeanor may have shifted from his collegiate days at Duke, where he was celebrated for his basketball prowess, to a more abrasive persona in coaching and media roles. They discuss whether this change is a result of personal growth or an adaptation to high-pressure environments like coaching elite players.

3. Plagiarism Accusations Against Woody Page

Timestamp: [25:10] - [38:26]

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to addressing allegations that Woody Page, a colleague from "Around the Horn," plagiarized content from Dan LeBatard in the 1990s. The hosts explore the origins and implications of these accusations, examining specific instances where Page allegedly copied LeBatard’s work.

Notable Quotes:

• Amin Elhassan: "[25:10] ...Andy and Amin are gonna be more offended by a different part of the story."
• Chris Cody: "[25:54] ...hear this on air because I'm trying to balance between. I like them. I did like him."
• Amin Elhassan: "[26:52] ...the San Francisco 49ers are playing in the Super Bowl. Ricky Jackson's family lives in Pahoki... all of those details appear in a Woody Page story several days later..."
• Mike Ryan: "[27:01] I got an answer for you. Almost all of them."
• Stugotz: "[34:44] ...the level of racist. If him to write that quote. It is not a real quote, dog dawg."
• Billy Gill: "[36:11] ...that nickname Woody Plage. Dan didn't come up with it."

The episode delves deep into the specifics of the plagiarism claims, recounting how Woody Page allegedly mirrored LeBatard's reporting on Ricky Jackson and fabricated quotes in offensive dialect. The hosts discuss the broader implications of such actions, considering the impact on journalistic integrity and the potential for racial insensitivity.

Key Points:

• Evidence Examination: The hosts reference emails from 2009 where LeBatard addresses the plagiarism allegations, comparing specific quotes and story details.
• Impact on Reputation: There's a consensus that Page’s actions were not only ethically questionable but also racially insensitive, exacerbating tensions within the sports journalism community.
• Audience Reaction: The hosts express frustration over the resurfacing of these allegations, especially given their age and the limited information available online from that period.
• Defamation Concerns: The conversation touches on the challenges of addressing old allegations in the digital age, where unverifiable claims can persist and tarnish reputations indefinitely.

4. The Colorblindness Conversation

Timestamp: [21:50] - [22:38]

In a lighter segment, Stugotz opens up about his colorblindness, prompting a humorous and insightful discussion about how this condition affects daily life and perceptions.

Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz: "[22:00] My kids, they crush me for it, man. 'Cause I'm always like this matches like. No, dad, I'm wearing green and brown and I'm like, oh, okay. Sorry."
• Stugotz: "[22:18] What other effects are there to being colorblind? What other mistakes do you make?"
• Billy Gill: "[22:40] I might also be clinically depressed, but it's kind of like it feels like a non color corrected film always to me."
• Stugotz: "[22:38] I feel like everyone else sees a lot more vibrant colors than I do. It kind of always feels like I..."

The hosts share personal anecdotes about living with colorblindness, highlighting common challenges such as matching clothing and differentiating colors in everyday settings. The conversation blends humor with genuine reflection on how this condition subtly impacts their lives.

5. Celebrating Tony Reali and the End of "Around the Horn"

Timestamp: [22:38] - [25:10]

The show takes a heartfelt moment to honor Tony Reali, a beloved figure from "Around the Horn," as his long-running show concludes after 23 years. The hosts reminisce about Reali’s tenure and his impact on the sports media landscape.

Notable Quotes:

• Amin Elhassan: "[22:42] ...Tony Reali and the story of around the horn. No matter what you think of the show, I really did feel like we gave Tony Reali the right sendoff..."
• Billy Gill: "[24:11] That's what heaven is. I will sign up for that right now..."
• Stugotz: "[24:35] Today you could go play in a craps table in VR and fill that heater for as long as you want. Wow."

The segment is filled with nostalgia and respect, celebrating Reali’s contributions over more than two decades. The hosts share favorite memories and express their appreciation for his professionalism and personality.

6. Light-Hearted Banter and Listener Engagement

Timestamp: [17:35] - [21:50]

Interspersed throughout the episode is playful banter about red foods, colorblindness, and hypothetical scenarios, showcasing the hosts' chemistry and humor. They engage with each other through jokes, playful teasing, and hypothetical questions, providing listeners with entertaining and relatable content.

Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cody: "[17:35] Glad I got that off my chest."
• Stugotz: "[21:50] I'm colorblind."
• Mike Ryan: "[22:00] Really?"

This section serves as a breather from the more intense discussions, allowing the hosts to connect on a personal level and entertain the audience with light-hearted topics.

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Conclusion

In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," listeners are treated to a mix of serious debates, personal stories, and humorous exchanges. The hosts navigate complex topics like athletic performance and media ethics while maintaining a conversational and engaging tone. Whether dissecting the careers of NFL receivers, addressing controversial allegations, or sharing personal quirks, Dan Le Batard and his team provide a comprehensive and entertaining podcast experience.

Note: Advertisements and non-content segments were excluded from this summary to maintain focus on the core discussions and insights presented during the episode.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, sure thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Chris Cody]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency. No interest over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Mike Ryan]

Just like that?

[Chris Cody]

Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

No hassle?

[Billy Gill]

None.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap.

[Mike Ryan]

Hassle for convenience. Pickup fees may apply.

[Billy Gill]

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[Stugotz]

My name is Matthew Murdock.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm a lawyer.

[Chris Cody]

Exactly what kind of a lawyer are you?

[Billy Gill]

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[Mike Ryan]

Fine.

[Stugotz]

I will be there.

[Billy Gill]

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[Stugotz]

This is the Dan Levator show with the ST podcast.

[Chris Cody]

Turn your mics on so we can enjoy some pre segment banter. How's everyone doing today?

[Tony]

I don't know if we're ready to have the conversation. DK Metcalf's really athletic, but not that good.

[Chris Cody]

That's a different sold segment of you're not ready for this conversation.

[Tony]

Sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

Ooh.

[Greg Cody]

He's good.

[Tony]

He's very good, but he's not like, he's not amazing.

[Stugotz]

He's fast. He's big.

[Greg Cody]

JSN emerge.

[Chris Cody]

He's like, damn.

[Greg Cody]

Need him anymore?

[Chris Cody]

No.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Big, fast and strong.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

National legend.

[Billy Gill]

What does DK stand for?

[Greg Cody]

DraftKings.

[Chris Cody]

That's true. The crown is yours. It should be. He should be sponsored by Burger King. DK have it your.

[Billy Gill]

You should change his name to BK Metcalf.

[Chris Cody]

There it is.

[Tony]

It's actually his first name, Decalin. So it's like D, E then K. So that's where the DK comes.

[Amin Elhassan]

You don't think we're ready to have the conversation about whether DK Metcalf should do more with that body? That body was made to play wide receiver that he came into the league. We were all made aware of his career from Oklahoma State at the same time because of physically he walked into Pete Carroll's office and he was shirtless. And so we all thought that that receiver type, the new evolution of receiver, should dominate the league. He's been great though. Has he not? Like, are we not giving him great?

[Stugotz]

I think DK Metcalf has done really well. He's a great wide receiver. I don't Think it's because of his body. I think you are objectifying an NFL wide receiver and I'm not gonna stand for it. I feel like a piece of meat sitting here as you talk about wide receivers. They're more than just their body. Dan.

[Chris Cody]

You went to Ole Miss, by the way.

[Stugotz]

I didn't want to come in and just jump on that. I wasn't sure if we were gonna go.

[Billy Gill]

Wide receiver room was A.J. brown, D.K. metcalfe.

[Stugotz]

That's crazy. How were they at Ole Miss? They were better in the NFL than they were in college. That's the real travesty I did.

[Amin Elhassan]

I actually confused him, honest to God, with a guy whose literal last name was black man from Oklahoma State.

[Greg Cody]

Justin Blackman.

[Tony]

He was good for a while.

[Billy Gill]

One of the great John Brinkus Sports Science episodes.

[Stugotz]

Oh, Sports Science.

[Billy Gill]

He had the catch radius of a two door, two car garage.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

What's Brinkus up to?

[Billy Gill]

He's actually broadcasting highlight.

[Stugotz]

He has his own network.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Brink tv.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he has his own network.

[Amin Elhassan]

DK Metcalf as a number one. Because you guys were arguing with me whether Tyler Lockett was ever a number one or not. Are we not in agreement that if we're trying to select from the 10 years of wide receiver from somebody and the choice is between Lockett or DK Metcalf or we can have 10 years of their career? Who are you choosing?

[Billy Gill]

Lockett.

[Greg Cody]

Lock it in.

[Stugotz]

Lock me, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Legendary status.

[Stugotz]

That's a, that's an NFL legend.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to be a legend. Sorry, Dan. I want to be remembered.

[Billy Gill]

And also just projecting DK is not going to have the longevity that Tyler Lockett had. Big bodied wide receivers, they, they come crashing to the ground carrying their own weight the way that Roy Williams just went from one day to the next like big body receivers. This happens.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. I mean, DK Metcalf is a specimen. Height, weight, speed, obviously strength a part of that. And if he gets with a quarterback, like if he does go to a contender with one of these quarterbacks who can take that ability to the next level, you'll probably see a career year from DK Metcalf.

[Mike Ryan]

A specie man, some might say.

[Amin Elhassan]

Chris Cody has announced that he is out on J.J. redick.

[Mike Ryan]

We don't remember that one.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't, I don't know why he's out on J.J. redick.

[Chris Cody]

I just think that I liked him when he was doing his podcast. I would see the clips and I would be like, oh, he seems likable. And now he just seems like he's reverted to, like, Duke. J.J. redick, he's so condescending now to the media. It's just every single clip. Now that I see, I have the opposite reaction of just like, ooh, that's unlikable. And I know he's probably trying to do that. He's tried trying to distance himself. I'm not a media man. I'm a coach.

[Greg Cody]

I'm a serious coach.

[Chris Cody]

But it's just every single clip I see is unlikable.

[Stugotz]

Probably what Tony's going to do when he gets over to the you I.

[Tony]

Would never flip up. Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

Stays true, you know? You know what makes him more obnoxious is that most coaches are like, oh, media. Like, they're coaches, right? But J.J. does the media. I did your job way better. You guys are so terrible at doing that.

[Chris Cody]

I literally know what your job is because I did it.

[Stugotz]

He was pretty good at it though, right?

[Chris Cody]

But he was likable then. I don't know. It's just maybe because that's the job, maybe it's me, maybe it's not him.

[Billy Gill]

But is he telling that to beat writers?

[Mike Ryan]

But you know what this is, right? This is the true J.J. redick, right? Like, one of my favorite game ops decisions in the history of all sports was the Wizards years ago. This is JJ Redick is in the league, but in games that the Wizards aren't playing against the JJ Redick team, when the opposing team was at the free throw line, they would put a picture of JJ Reddick up on the Jumbotron and the crowd would instantly start booing because it's a Maryland stronghold and everybody hates J.J. redick. Now, I think this is earlier in his career because after he left Orlando, I think people kind of forgot how hated JJ Reddick was and only for it to come back up. Now, the thing, Dan, that made me laugh. I want to say we talked about this, but maybe we didn't. Where Michael Porter Jr. Interviewed JJ Reddick on his podcast, and he asked him, wait, so were you ranked in high school? And JJ Redick says, well, I mean, I was McDonald's All American MVP. Does that count? Right?

[Stugotz]

Bonita fish. Big what? Anybody get that reference here?

[Tony]

I mean, I guess.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, he's just still recruiting.

[Stugotz]

There are trophy fish.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know.

[Chris Cody]

Just trying to connect with you. What do I sign with Miami File?

[Amin Elhassan]

I really don't understand what Chris Cody is doing. It seems to me that Chris Cody is taking just that podcast experience and erasing the rest of who JJ Redick has been the entirety of his life, which is, how does JJ Redick get to 14 points a game in that particular league? Being an asshole on purpose, fighting everyone doesn't care who dislikes him. Uncommonly brave at sort of leaning into, do not care how much you dislike me. I'm going to get into your league and I'm going to make millions of dollars.

[Chris Cody]

Also good at shooting.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Like being an all time great shooter.

[Tony]

Probably greatest shooter in college history.

[Stugotz]

And that was a ridiculous question from Michael Porter Jr. If he was ranked, that is dog.

[Mike Ryan]

He was McDonald. He like, I get it. Michael Porter Jr. Was like eight when JJ ready for that Duke. But it's like you got to know 99.9% of the players in the NBA. You got to know. They were. Yes, they were awesome in high school too. Like, like the number.

[Tony]

There's levels to it. It's not like, hey, I was highly ranked, but I didn't make the All American game. It was like, no, no, I was him. Nobody was better than I was.

[Stugotz]

I went to Duke when Duke was Duke. I was the best player at Duke.

[Mike Ryan]

Player of the year twice.

[Billy Gill]

Reruns, right?

[Mike Ryan]

National Championship, Final fours. Right again. McDonald's lottery pick in the NBA. This doesn't happen for the guy that kind of like was, oh, I had a growth spurt.

[Amin Elhassan]

But in the history of Duke, though, there have only been two guys who have actually had all of that and embraced. I don't care that you hate me. Eat also. Yeah, it's him and Laettner on I'll invite the hate and I'll be better than your hate and I'll welcome it. And like the idea that JJ Redick changed Chris Cody's mind on who he is because he did a podcast for a couple years.

[Chris Cody]

Likable for a couple years that we forget.

[Greg Cody]

He got himself into the media and he was there for long enough. And look, there's people online trying to convince me that, like, Paul George was better than Dwyane Wade at their peaks. Like, everyone forgets everything because of what's happening right now. So Reddit goes and does a podcast for a couple of years. He's jovial and likable and he does a good job on first take. And every young person watching basketball might not remember, you know, what were the Orlando Magic.

[Chris Cody]

He just hit it. It was those first take appearances where he would like, dunk on Stephen A.

[Greg Cody]

Smith because no one can.

[Chris Cody]

That's where I. That's where I started.

[Mike Ryan]

By the way, Chris, what kind of skill set does it take to dunk on Stephen. Is it nice?

[Stugotz]

Humble?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, pardon me, Mr. Smith, but I believe you might be mistaken. Or is it the asshole? And I say this as someone I like, J.J. reddick. I'm people who are assholes. I like him. No, no, no, I didn't.

[Tony]

What he did to Mad Dog was unfair and unreasonable and everybody knows it.

[Stugotz]

Okay?

[Mike Ryan]

But he was being an asshole in a room full of assholes. Mad Dog, come on, now, look, we could, like. I love JJ Reddick. We could love Mad Dog and also admit Mad Dog, he's an asshole.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't understand what you guys are doing. In the history of sports, Duke, arrogance and the face of it. It's one of the most hateable things there are in the history of sports. And on that Mount Rushmore, there ain't four, there are two.

[Mike Ryan]

I'll they give it another name.

[Stugotz]

Grayson Allen.

[Mike Ryan]

Grayson Allen.

[Amin Elhassan]

Forgive me. Grayson Allen's a good one.

[Stugotz]

Thank you. Yes. Pocket with a basketball.

[Tony]

Extra million for your Nile.

[Mike Ryan]

And another one. Although he's mellowed out now that he's head coach. But Jon Shire was an asshole, too.

[Stugotz]

I like him.

[Mike Ryan]

Nobody liked Jon Shire in college, man. That dude was a jerk.

[Stugotz]

I like him.

[Chris Cody]

You know what? Dan's right. This is on me. This is my fault.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're out on.

[Chris Cody]

J.J. hasn't changed. I've changed.

[Mike Ryan]

You've changed.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, but it's not just that, though. Hold on a second.

[Chris Cody]

So now I. I'm sorry, Dan.

[Amin Elhassan]

I give you the whole history of J.J. redick, and now I add to it. First time coach cuts the line. Hey, here are LeBron and Luca as your proteges. You think that's going to feed the arrogance a little bit?

[Mike Ryan]

Dude, let me tell you something. When they. When they beat the Nuggets, like, a couple weeks ago, and he was like, we circled this game on the calendar. I was like, oh, no. Because here's the most dangerous part of any coach's, like, timeline is when you fall in love with your own, right? You can bullshit those guys in the locker room as much as you want, as much as you need, when you talk to everybody else, hey, man, this game. Was this a big game? You say it's another game on the schedule. Obviously they're a really good team. But, you know, and we kind of looked at it as a little bit of a measuring stick. But look, there's a lot of season left, and I'm sure we're going to see more of them. We'll probably see them down the line, and they'll have changed and will have changed. There are answers you give. You can't be like, this was our super bowl and we won it. I'm like, dog, it was before, like.

[Tony]

The All Star 67.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Like, yeah, it was a little, just a little bit too much of. I'm. I'm high on my own supply, you know.

[Stugotz]

Chris, tell me this. What coach's disposition do you like in the media? Like when they're talk to the media?

[Chris Cody]

Missoula.

[Stugotz]

I love it.

[Chris Cody]

He's so annoying with the media. He just was like, that didn't matter, but it didn't matter.

[Mike Ryan]

Isn't that just another form of.

[Stugotz]

I was going to say it's the.

[Chris Cody]

Other thing, the other side, where he's not being. I mean, I guess he's being arrogant.

[Mike Ryan]

Absolutely. Being arrogant.

[Stugotz]

As arrogant.

[Mike Ryan]

He was asked, how does it feel to be in a like, if not the first one of the few times in NBA history of finals where both head coaches are black. And his answer was, I wonder how many of them were Christian. I'm like, buddy, good question.

[Chris Cody]

I'm curious.

[Mike Ryan]

I got an answer for you. Almost all of them.

[Stugotz]

We could probably say almost all of.

[Tony]

You could have answered. At least he would have got his question answered.

[Mike Ryan]

I gotta go back to like Red Hour back to get to like, okay, maybe a couple of them are Jewish.

[Stugotz]

I like them.

[Mike Ryan]

He's like, he's the asshole. I really don't enjoy because we're playing.

[Chris Cody]

Different games, you and I.

[Mike Ryan]

He's flipping, man.

[Tony]

You don't like flipping asshole?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't like flipping asshole, man.

[Stugotz]

Listen, I also think that for J.J. redick, who is, to Dan's point, the head coach of the Los Angeles Lakers on a team with LeBron James and Luka Doncic spoiled, you have to get up there and not treat media a certain way, but you gotta exude a certain confidence in every room to be able to go in that room and get them to be like, hey, I gotta respect this guy. I gotta listen to this guy. He knows what he's talking about. And so that is a piece of it that may be a little different than the media game. And for that reason, I like em.

[Tony]

I mean, being a media member, being a podcaster, obviously the last thing that JJ Redick did was podcasting. If you were given the keys to a kingdom in an NBA setting and being the head coach, how would you be? Would you be the flipping asshole that you hate? Would you morph into something different?

[Mike Ryan]

I'd be J.J. redick.

[Tony]

So you would be an asshole.

[Mike Ryan]

Too. Absolutely. Because a couple of things. First of all, what he said, like, you got to be able to, especially in that town, right?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Frank Vogel won a championship with the Lakers and they got his ass up out of here. Paul west had won a championship with the Lakers. They got his ass up out of there. You have to have some sort of gravitas when you walk in the room, regardless of who you're coaching, but especially when you're coaching those kind of guys, right? Number one. Number two, I don't know if you've noticed, Tony, I'm a bit of an asshole again, like JJ Redick. Like, this is not, like, that's who I am. So for me to be nice and kind and like, oh, no, it was a good. I can't do the Doc Rivers. That's a very handsome question you just asked me, or whatever. I can't do that stuff where everyone's laughing. I'm gonna be like a little sarcastic jerk. Especially if I hear a question that has either been answered before or a question that is especially lazy or ill constructed or whatever. Cause I'm going to have the same judgments that I'm sure J.J. redick had. That's why I'm like, I'm not mad at it. I'm just like, pointing it out that, hey, man, you might be getting a little high on your own supply.

[Greg Cody]

Larry Brown, recent Jew.

[Stugotz]

There you go, found it.

[Billy Gill]

Define recent.

[Amin Elhassan]

That. That is a while ago.

[Billy Gill]

I was in high school.

[Mike Ryan]

He just got bar mitzvahed.

[Amin Elhassan]

Chris Cody, can you explain to me.

[Chris Cody]

After the red foods.

[Tony]

Oh, finally. Oh, my goodness.

[Amin Elhassan]

I do want to get to.

[Tony]

That food's killing us, by the way.

[Amin Elhassan]

I do want to get to your.

[Stugotz]

Thank you.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's a good impersonation.

[Stugotz]

Thought it was a sound bite.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yes, Chris. Okay, fine. Why are you out on red food?

[Stugotz]

Yes. You got there.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, we can all agree that cranberries are overrated, right?

[Mike Ryan]

No way.

[Chris Cody]

All right, I'm just gonna do the whole take. All right, look, cranberries. There are so many things that I can point to where the red version of that food is the inferior version of that food.

[Stugotz]

Oh, no.

[Chris Cody]

Red potatoes, the worst of the potatoes.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, I like them.

[Amin Elhassan]

Put it on the pool. Put it on the poll at Lebiton show. Are the red tomatoes. Are the red potatoes the worst of the potatoes?

[Chris Cody]

I mean, there's the peppers, the red pepper, the yellow. I prefer the orange. Kidney, bell pepper. Kidney beans out of here.

[Mike Ryan]

No, kidney beans are whack. Yeah, you're right.

[Chris Cody]

The red apple. Inferior to the worst apple.

[Mike Ryan]

It's the worst apple.

[Chris Cody]

Red grapes.

[Amin Elhassan]

Hold on. Slow it down. Put it on the pole. Is the red apple inferior to the green apple?

[Chris Cody]

The red grapes. Red onion. I could go on for days.

[Mike Ryan]

Red onion is. Oh, and a burger. You put some red onion in there.

[Stugotz]

I got one for you.

[Mike Ryan]

And a burger.

[Stugotz]

Fanta.

[Mike Ryan]

Red Fanta.

[Chris Cody]

Worst.

[Mike Ryan]

Don't you dare.

[Chris Cody]

Worst flavor.

[Stugotz]

Best flavor. Best flavor by far.

[Mike Ryan]

Red tomatoes.

[Billy Gill]

You like it?

[Stugotz]

I like it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Taco Bell's coming out with a midnight flavor. Baja Midnight.

[Chris Cody]

But there's just so many red foods that are overrated.

[Mike Ryan]

That's the fattest thing you can.

[Chris Cody]

Cherries.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on not to. You want a bat?

[Chris Cody]

They are.

[Stugotz]

Dan. Definitely just read a hypebeast post about Taco Bell's new Baja Blast flavor.

[Mike Ryan]

Whoever the sham Sorania of fast food. Dan is fat food on alert.

[Amin Elhassan]

Fat food.

[Stugotz]

Look what just came up.

[Amin Elhassan]

A fat food update. But what is that? What does that even mean? Baja Midnight. Like it sounds like. That's purple poison. That's a battery acid purple drink. That's only something that people who are drunk at 2 o'clock in the morning are gonna have.

[Mike Ryan]

I can't believe Chris doesn't like the cranberries, man. What about zombie? That was a great song.

[Chris Cody]

Gross. The radish. Get that out of my salad. I'm just saying there's one red food that I will say.

[Amin Elhassan]

What?

[Chris Cody]

Have you ever eaten a radish in a salad? I'm always just like, what is this Starburst?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know. I kind of feel like it's all in your head, man.

[Stugotz]

What's the best starburst?

[Greg Cody]

Red.

[Chris Cody]

No.

[Tony]

Easily.

[Chris Cody]

I'm a pink or an orange guy. That's just me.

[Amin Elhassan]

Put it on the poll. Starburst. Best starburst. Red, Pink, Orange?

[Chris Cody]

Yellow.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yellow. Put up those four. Red velvet cake.

[Chris Cody]

Red velvet. See? All right, now you're kind of talking my language. I do like Black Hole. I would say the only red food that I will say. I can't say a negative thing about watermelon is delightful.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, watermelon.

[Chris Cody]

I won't say a bad word about watermelon.

[Tony]

Watermelon's more pink.

[Amin Elhassan]

Isn't it?

[Mike Ryan]

Green? Like the inside is.

[Tony]

The inside.

[Stugotz]

It's like green. And also, there's not like an. There's not like an alternative.

[Billy Gill]

We're all pink on the inside.

[Mike Ryan]

I can't eat red velvet cake because if I do, it gets. It comes up.

[Stugotz]

And then I thought red velvet was just chocolate cake Dye.

[Mike Ryan]

It is exactly but the dye. The dye makes me make smells and then they linger. I mean, they have so, I mean, lactose.

[Chris Cody]

I'm just saying, of all, like everything I did here, it's just the inferior version, the red version. I'm just out on red foods.

[Stugotz]

Was Braun lactose? Is that why they took the ice cream away on a plane? Maybe that would make sense. I'm asking you, Dan, I feel like you have this information.

[Amin Elhassan]

It would make sense.

[Chris Cody]

Glad I got that off my chest.

[Billy Gill]

The nutritionist took for babies. The nutritionist.

[Amin Elhassan]

The nutritionist took the ice cream off of the plane. It was not Pat Riley.

[Mike Ryan]

That's all I'm saying. So Pat Riley said, but it's not me, it's my family is basically what he's saying.

[Stugotz]

How does a nutritionist feel? So JJ Redick, like, confidence to say I'm taking something away from LeBron James.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know the answer to that question.

[Stugotz]

He or she should have been fired.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, the ice cream returned the next day. I don't know if the nutritionist did or didn't, but the ice cream did return. When LeBron James the plum.

[Chris Cody]

Also overrated.

[Stugotz]

Think about the butterfly effect of that, though. That alone should have gotten that nutritionist fire because A, it's attributed to Pat Riley, so much so that 10 years later we're telling stories on podcasts, and B, it was the fall of potentially the best basketball dynasty we could have ever seen. That's a documentary that should be produced by Meadowlark and then marketed by Neon Films. There you go to win best Picture.

[Mike Ryan]

It's crazy because he said on a podcast about something that happened over a decade removed from it. I think we've all moved on. And yet people inside the Miami Heat heard it loud and clear and said, dan, you've got to clarify this.

[Amin Elhassan]

They weren't asking for me to report it. They were just telling me. And I thought it'd be funny to report it.

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[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, sure thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, you sold that car yet?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, sold it to Carvana.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.

[Chris Cody]

The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency. No interest over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.

[Mike Ryan]

Just like that.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

No hassle?

[Billy Gill]

None.

[Dan Le Batard]

That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap.

[Mike Ryan]

Hassle for convenience. Pickup fees may apply.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

Shopify.com Bard Don Lerd cheaters never prosper.

[Amin Elhassan]

STS I ain't cheating.

[Stugotz]

This is the D Ler show with the ST.

[Amin Elhassan]

The plum is red. I think I thought the rude.

[Chris Cody]

Close enough for this conversation.

[Tony]

So you don't like pepperonis, Chris?

[Stugotz]

I'm colorblind.

[Amin Elhassan]

Ooh, pepperoni.

[Tony]

Pepperonis are.

[Stugotz]

Have we talked about that?

[Amin Elhassan]

No, we have not talked about that.

[Stugotz]

I'm not completely colorblind, but I'm pretty colorblind.

[Amin Elhassan]

How does it affect you?

[Stugotz]

Pinks and reds are really tough. One in 12 men are colorblind.

[Mike Ryan]

Really?

[Stugotz]

My kids, they crush me for it, man. Cause I'm always like this matches like. No, dad, I'm wearing green and brown and I'm like, oh, okay. Sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

If I couldn't see colors, man, I'd be dying inside.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, it's because you're racist.

[Amin Elhassan]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Are we all free to decide?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm free to decide.

[Amin Elhassan]

And what other effects are there to being colorblind? What other mistakes do you make?

[Stugotz]

I mean, it's mostly just clothes situation. Yeah. And I also feel like I walk around with a little more dull version of life. Like, I feel like everyone else sees a lot more vibrant colors than I do. It kind of always feels like I.

[Billy Gill]

Thought that was depression.

[Stugotz]

I might also be clinically depressed, but it's kind of like it feels like a non color corrected film always to me.

[Mike Ryan]

So, like, let me name some colors. Can you see chocolate brown?

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Can you see electric blue?

[Stugotz]

Don't know what that is.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow. He doesn't know what electric blue is. Wow.

[Chris Cody]

Like, what color are the three letters DLS behind Dan?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's. First one is. I'm going to say yellow.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I'm going to say it.

[Stugotz]

I would say blue and red.

[Chris Cody]

You just know that those are. Yeah, like, I just know my version.

[Stugotz]

Of yellow is just different from your version of yellow.

[Chris Cody]

I want to. I want to be in your eyes.

[Stugotz]

I can use oranges and yellows.

[Amin Elhassan]

That is a beautiful love song.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you not. Do you not appreciate, like chrome paint on car?

[Stugotz]

That better make the Quavo Club be in Quavo Club.

[Mike Ryan]

The Quavo Club is very different from the Quavo Club.

[Billy Gill]

Cameron Crow is producing the show today.

[Amin Elhassan]

Quavo Club is much different than what we do.

[Chris Cody]

I'm going to.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sorry, I have Cuervo at the Cuevo Club.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, no, we're not drinking at the Cuevo Club. We're drinking Hennessy.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yesterday on the show, a lot of people were really touched by Tony Reali and the story of around the horn. No matter what you think of the show, I really did feel like we gave Tony Reali the right sendoff, which is the applause that you would give at a craps table after a 23 year role where somebody has just rolled for 23 years. 23 years and then you start applying.

[Billy Gill]

That's what heaven is. I will sign up for that right now and you can send me to the fiery depths of hell afterwards. But if you give me a 23 year roll at a craps table where it's hot, that is pretty good. That's a feeling. I have never felt better in my entire life than when I went on a heater at a craft stable doing that for 23 years. Unreal.

[Amin Elhassan]

Let's put it on the poll. Is there any better feeling in the world than a 23 year heater at a craps table.

[Billy Gill]

I hope virtual reality gets strong enough that I can just stay alive inside the oculus Rift. Playing at a craps table and always winning. This is heaven.

[Stugotz]

They have that for sure right now. Today you could go play in a craps table in VR and fill that heater for as long as you want. Wow.

[Billy Gill]

What am I doing here? I should be doing that.

[Stugotz]

Absolutely.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm guessing though, that at some point you would become numb and it would become a special kind of solitary confinement to just win money for that long.

[Billy Gill]

No, you can mix it. You can mix in a loss. And then everyone at the table. We still got roll. It comes right back to you. Everyone defers and goes right back to you. Oh, my God.

[Stugotz]

Yo, 11, what if you had to stay in there the 23 years? Like you can start it, but you cannot stop away until after 23 years.

[Billy Gill]

TSL over here, Lime. You know the deal.

[Amin Elhassan]

One of the worst feelings in the world, and I hope Mike doesn't tell any private stories here is being in the middle of a craps roll and having to go to the bathroom.

[Billy Gill]

I am not telling that story.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, you had to do. You had a crap roll during the craps roll.

[Billy Gill]

I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Dan can reveal it.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan.

[Billy Gill]

I'm not doing it.

[Mike Ryan]

Time to be a storyteller.

[Amin Elhassan]

What happened to that edit in the middle of the new father observations? Tony? What? What? What happened?

[Tony]

Labs.

[Billy Gill]

Yes, speaking of labs, I haven't forgotten about it. Are you trying to get a dog? What is. Or is this a blood lab?

[Amin Elhassan]

Chris Cody, the place I was headed with that around the horn story is that you were telling me yesterday something you came in. I don't know how it is that the audience felt about this, but Tony realy is somebody who's a very special person to us for a number of different reasons. And I loved his grace in the moment, but I was super bummed out, not really understanding why a 23 year show of great success was going off of the air. And the thing that I wanted to ask you was you began to tell me something about Woody Page, one of the original members of around the Horn yesterday. But I didn't know what it is that you were saying or why it is that you were talking about Woody Page.

[Chris Cody]

I saw in a group chat pop up a link to an article that had the headline Woody Page repeats denial that he plagiarized Dan LeBatard in the 90s.

[Stugotz]

Whoa.

[Chris Cody]

And I had never heard of that. So I like. So I pose it to you. He plagiarized.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, but wait a minute. Woody Plague. Where is this? Where did this appear?

[Billy Gill]

That's been on the Internet.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. He's been called Woody Plage since I've known him because of that.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

It's not just you. Like, there's articles that share your story because you revealed it on the air before on our show, and then it occasionally gets brought up and your name gets invoked as one of the ones.

[Stugotz]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

You know why it's a big story, Dan? Because he plagiarized off of a legend. Regional legend. Trying to plagiarize off a national legend.

[Amin Elhassan]

But what was. Why was it making a resurrection? Like, where did it appear on a Reddit forum?

[Chris Cody]

It appeared in my group chat. It's just a link to an article that I could click on. That's just kind of saying that it's been a thing that accused of. He's denied it. So let's be fair to him here.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, we don't need to be fair to him. He absolutely did it. Absolutely. It was offensive.

[Mike Ryan]

It was wildly offensive.

[Billy Gill]

He added a little detail, though, that made it different.

[Stugotz]

What did he plagiarize?

[Amin Elhassan]

Okay, I'm gonna tell you what he plagiarized. I'm gonna tell you those.

[Stugotz]

I don't even know Woody Page as a journalist.

[Chris Cody]

He's the guy in the round the horn with the sign.

[Stugotz]

I know who he is, and I love the sign. And I'm like, that old guy is funny. Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

I feel like I'm getting sent.

[Mike Ryan]

Taylor's under there.

[Amin Elhassan]

Watch out. So Mike Ryan sent it in the group chat, but what. It was an article about what? Who's written?

[Billy Gill]

Well, someone. Someone put in. Someone put in, like, Woody Page. Like, he put out a tweet. Sorry. To all the frats out there that take a shot every time I screw up something to that effect. And then I was just reminding people. I'm like, this is out there on the Internet. I report, you decide. All right, so.

[Amin Elhassan]

But I'm the shit stirrer.

[Mike Ryan]

Hold on. So let's hear this.

[Billy Gill]

I didn't know he was gonna go to air with it. I was just telling my friends, hey, did you know this?

[Amin Elhassan]

Was it an article, somebody.

[Billy Gill]

No, I posted the articles.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, so I'll tell you the story.

[Stugotz]

Tell me the story.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm guessing that Andrew and Amin are gonna be more offended by a different part of the story. Not. Not the plagiarizing part of the story. I think they're going to be bothered more by the second part of this story.

[Stugotz]

And you. And you singled out me and Amin. So that makes me feel like it's going in a certain direction.

[Amin Elhassan]

This is the direction it's going in. So The San Francisco 49ers are playing in the Super Bowl. Ricky Jackson is one of their famous players. Ricky Jackson's family lives in Pohoki, one of the most impoverished places that you will find anywhere in the United States. A couple of days before the Super Bowl, I go to his family's house in Pahokee, and I write something about that. All of those details appear in a Woody Page story several days later, as if he wrote the story accompanied by quotes that are super suspicious because they are offensively in black dialect in a way that would be, like, really bad.

[Billy Gill]

Imagine Quentin Tarantino doing an interview on bet.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, no.

[Stugotz]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

I had to do dawg.

[Stugotz]

I let him know writing in black scent is crazy. What year is this?

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm gonna say 99.

[Billy Gill]

So nobody even gave denials from Woody Page?

[Amin Elhassan]

No, but, I mean, it's easy enough to look up. Like, he got into a lot of trouble and stuff because he was a star columnist in Denver, and, you know, problems came his way. Like, it's not. I don't. It's not so pre Internet that you cannot find it anywhere. It'd be easy enough to find.

[Mike Ryan]

It was 1995. That was 30 years ago.

[Stugotz]

Geez.

[Greg Cody]

And the article that Mike linked to was from westward.com in 2011.

[Billy Gill]

This is not the first time Dan has revealed this on the air. It's just been a good 14 years.

[Greg Cody]

They actually have a copy of Dan's email response to someone who asked about this, in which he just detailed everything he just said on the air.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. Nothing added there. So he's a writer.

[Tony]

Story adds up.

[Stugotz]

Did he change the actual quotes that you had and put in your article? Put it into black sent and then put it in his article?

[Amin Elhassan]

As I recall, they were just quotes I didn't recognize from a story.

[Greg Cody]

Do you want to hear your email from 2009?

[Stugotz]

Let's read it.

[Greg Cody]

That explains the details of this.

[Billy Gill]

Dan to proofread that 09 was different.

[Mike Ryan]

Different Dan.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, give me a minute.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan was running around saying some wild shit in 09. No, but I'm like, you, Hawk. I'm thinking, wait a second. Did he, like, if the dude said originally, yeah, and that's why I had to come back and do it. And Woody Page's version said, yeah, and that's why.

[Stugotz]

That's why I did that shit.

[Mike Ryan]

With all these what?

[Amin Elhassan]

Woody Page, as I recall, it's ev. Even worse than that. I'm pretty sure it was somebody saying something along the lines of, Ricky Jackson could get all the fish free bait he wants in our town. Because it was just like something that was like, just made up.

[Greg Cody]

What you have in your email is you responded to someone who asked you in September of 2009, is Woody Page a big goofball when he isn't on around the Horn, or is it just an act for tv? You answered, no, he's. That his career has kind of amazed me. My friends call him Woody Plage. Pre Internet during a Super bowl in Miami, I went to Ricky Jackson's pohokie home, Wrote scene, described town, had a scene in which Ricky was coming home with a big check for his family. A few days later, Paige writes the same column, but he never went to the home. And he just made up some bait shop and gave some black guy a quote in ridiculous black dialect. This was during Denver News Wars. The other Denver paper called him out on it. Even wrote a letter in which both columns were published. I think.

[Mike Ryan]

I wonder what the quote was. Now. I need to find this quote. I need to see.

[Amin Elhassan]

Now we gotta do it now. We gotta find the quote.

[Mike Ryan]

Ricky Jackson would.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was something about, as I recall. God, 30 years is a long time. But as I recall, it was something about Ricky Jackson being such a local celebrity that he could have all the free bait that he wanted when he returned back to town in. In the event that he wanted to fish. Chris, why are you, first of all, sitting? Chris, you seem mortified. And Mike is in the back road, just delighted at his shit as his personal.

[Chris Cody]

But I sure I stirred it into the show, apparently, like, oh, my God.

[Mike Ryan]

I found the quote.

[Stugotz]

What's the quote? First of all, I don't even know if I want to hear this on air because I'm trying to balance between. I like them. I did like him.

[Amin Elhassan]

I did.

[Mike Ryan]

Jesus Christ. Okay, so first of all, it's Harold's Bait Shop. He said there's a place called Harold's.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't think there was a place.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what Moody Bay says. And the quote from the shop owner, the Jackson piece. Quote, ricky J. Gets all the free worms he wants. Harold says, that's crazy.

[Billy Gill]

Hold on.

[Mike Ryan]

That's not the crazy part.

[Amin Elhassan]

Start at the beginning. Hold on. Do the whole thing again.

[Mike Ryan]

Let me do it. Okay, Are you guys ready? All right.

[Stugotz]

Ricky J.

[Mike Ryan]

Gets.

[Chris Cody]

Can hear your smile.

[Billy Gill]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

You don't. You don't Got to read the accent.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like that smiling though the shit sure back.

[Stugotz]

Ricky J.

[Mike Ryan]

Gets all the free worms he wants. Harold says if and he wins the Super Bowl.

[Stugotz]

Oh, that's nuts, bro. Ifen that is ridiculous.

[Mike Ryan]

Iffn if he wins the super bowl then we going to get some. Some worms and get the fishing.

[Billy Gill]

This is why we don't have Splash Mountain anymore.

[Stugotz]

That. That might be the most offensive quote I've ever heard.

[Greg Cody]

Even until he ended the column. It's the final line of the column.

[Stugotz]

Goodness gracious. What if that's the reason around.

[Amin Elhassan]

That was his closer. That was his closer. I got the line. I got.

[Stugotz]

I got it.

[Mike Ryan]

Here it is.

[Amin Elhassan]

And if.

[Tony]

And wind up in the pitch.

[Stugotz]

That is. That is bad.

[Mike Ryan]

The day journalist dies.

[Stugotz]

The level. The level of racist. If him to write that quote. It is not a real quote, dog dawg.

[Mike Ryan]

That's the part. That's the part right there, my man. With Mark Twain on the shit. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

That's nuts, man.

[Billy Gill]

Guys, it was the 90s.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm just surprised he didn't call Harold. N word Harold.

[Stugotz]

Granted nobody cared in the 90s.

[Chris Cody]

I don't feel good about this anymore.

[Stugotz]

That's a bad one. We got to do some more research.

[Billy Gill]

What he did the article as if Dan wouldn't pick up the phone. Hey, was Woody through town?

[Mike Ryan]

But also like. Let's just assume it was like his defenses. This was all a coincidence. I actually did go to town. I actually did interview these people. I actually did find Harold. Who owns Harold's Bait Shop. Dan. Are you saying there was no Harold's.

[Amin Elhassan]

Bait Shop in Pogium, as I recall. We went and like tried to find one and couldn't.

[Mike Ryan]

You went back? You went back?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't mean we physically went back. I meant we went around.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Called around trying to figure out if that existed and never found. I think the competing. Look. They had huge newspaper wars in Denver. So the other newspaper was trying to get him in trouble.

[Stugotz]

What was it?

[Amin Elhassan]

And fail.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, they failed.

[Amin Elhassan]

He kept his job.

[Billy Gill]

It was the 90s.

[Stugotz]

It was the 90s.

[Mike Ryan]

If and they could find some. Some evidence, maybe you would have got in trouble.

[Billy Gill]

Dan's just like really like a footnote. There have been those allegations like that. That nickname Woody Plage. Dan didn't come up with it.

[Stugotz]

It sounds like he created it. Because I've heard it twice now when Dan said it and also in that email when Dan said it.

[Billy Gill]

Said my friend called him Woody Plage.

[Mike Ryan]

I know that move.

[Billy Gill]

His friends at the bait shop.

[Mike Ryan]

Ifin he gets plagiarized.

[Stugotz]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

I wanna use ifin the entire rest of the show now every time I say something.

[Tony]

Chris feels really uncomfortable when you do that.

[Stugotz]

I feel uncomfortable when he does it.

[Amin Elhassan]

All of us do. But I gotta be honest, in 30 years, having thought about it, like, I wasn't totally sure what I really thought. It was a finna and not an ifin.

[Stugotz]

I was gonna say I've literally never heard the term finna ifin. Now, granted, I didn't grow up in the South.

[Mike Ryan]

Ifin you had grew up in the south, you would have known it.

[Stugotz]

Finna. I use finna, like, all the time. And, you know, everyone I'm around, that's a term that we ifin is like.

[Billy Gill]

This is gonna be really unfortunate.

[Stugotz]

That sounds. That sounds like it's a time for.

[Billy Gill]

Like, a victory lap. No, like, he was a key member.

[Amin Elhassan]

I didn't mean to do this. I didn't mean to do this. I did not mean to do this.

[Billy Gill]

This is a celebratory time.

[Greg Cody]

Which one of the three of you did this?

[Billy Gill]

Great Mediterranean memories.

[Greg Cody]

It was Mike, it was Chris, it was Dan. Which one of them? I didn't blame Pie.

[Chris Cody]

This is my.

[Greg Cody]

How much of a percentage is going around here?

[Chris Cody]

I told you, Chris.

[Greg Cody]

Why would you ever tell Dan anything? You didn't want to get on air?

[Chris Cody]

I was. It was more. I was genuinely curious. I had never heard the story, so I was like, oh, I'm seeing this thing about plagiarizing Woody Page and Dan.

[Greg Cody]

Who would have thought it would get to racism?

[Billy Gill]

All I'm doing is trying to, like, change individuals opinion of Woody Page, not the mass Dan knew it was going to be. And it's gonna get picked up on way more than it did before at a time that it's. It's really unfair, Woody.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, can we take it back?

[Billy Gill]

No, absolutely not. He did that shit.

[Mike Ryan]

We could take it back if. And he comes on here and apologize, he gots to say sorry to us. No, sir.

[Amin Elhassan]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Where's the mystery box? Mystery crate. Magic crate.

[Stugotz]

Magic.

[Mike Ryan]

Magic.

[Amin Elhassan]

Mystery crate's a totally different thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry.

[Amin Elhassan]

Magic crate is a. Is what Andrew Hawkins has just reached into to bail us out on any topic if and we're struggling.

[Billy Gill]

Tell me it's about John Cena. Tell me it's about John Cena.

[Mike Ryan]

Tell me it's got the word ifin in it.

[Stugotz]

Who would be best to solve a train murder mystery? Who would be the killer and why? Is it witty?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, wow, that's an old one. I think we wrote that one. Like in what, 20, 21.

[Tony]

It obviously we wrote it.

[Billy Gill]

Well, I mean, John Cena's a killer.

[Mike Ryan]

The box gets.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, me wrote it. It's not. We didn't write anything. The box.

[Mike Ryan]

I meant the Royal Wii. The Royal Wii.

[Amin Elhassan]

So the question again is, who is responsible for a train mystery?

[Billy Gill]

We got a new one.

[Stugotz]

Who would be the best to solve mystery?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I want to answer this.

[Stugotz]

I don't like.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to answer. It will be Tony.

[Tony]

It's me.

[Billy Gill]

Tony's a. Yeah. Johnson is a murderer. He's a. He's a lead investigator.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's a terrible question.

[Stugotz]

Who is the most famous person that might come to your funeral?

[Billy Gill]

There you go.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a good one.

[Amin Elhassan]

Fuentes.

[Greg Cody]

Dan, would you come to my funeral?

[Amin Elhassan]

I'd be in jail responsible for it.

[Billy Gill]

Tony would close that case real quick.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, I'm out.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was good.

[Billy Gill]

It was fun.

[Greg Cody]

I loved working here. I think I gotta go.

[Mike Ryan]

On that note, most famous person at your funeral.

[Billy Gill]

Do we go around the horn?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, too soon. Wait, who's the most famous person at your funeral? Is it the big guy at my funeral? The big cactus?

[Mike Ryan]

You think this original legend.

[Stugotz]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Billy Gill]

I'm talking about.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, no. Yeah. J. Cole Diesel's not coming to my funeral, man. J. Cole Cole will come to my funeral.

[Billy Gill]

Well, that's. That's.

[Tony]

That's huge.

[Mike Ryan]

But I'm trying to think of like a1up Cole. I might be able to one up call, man.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're gonna be able to one up Cole. No, you can't one up.

[Billy Gill]

It's a festival headliner.

[Stugotz]

He's lying.

[Amin Elhassan]

You can one up Cole. Hold on a second.

[Chris Cody]

Look at me.

[Billy Gill]

That feels more racist than look at plenty of black Lou.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know why it did that. I don't know. I. I had to. Look at me, Louie. I don't know why it did. Look, I hate to look at.

[Mike Ryan]

I know.

[Billy Gill]

More black Louis than Leroy.

[Amin Elhassan]

I ha. Look at me, Louie.

[Stugotz]

Way more black Louis. And Leroy's.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think. I know.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know.

[Chris Cody]

I know a Leroy.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, look at me, Luigi.

[Billy Gill]

Half a battalion.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know what's going on with that offensive.

[Stugotz]

All of it. Michael Jordan most offended by him saying.

[Amin Elhassan]

He'S not Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan's not going to your funeral. Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Stugotz]

Michael Jordan won't go speak in Europe for 250mil, but he's coming to your funeral.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right.

[I]

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[Stugotz]

Yep.

[I]

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[Billy Gill]

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