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Stugotz
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Jessica
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Stugotz
I know that the great disparity of attention is going to be sent the way of the Chiefs and the Bills as we get to the biggest football weekend before the biggest football weekend, the.
Greg Cody
Mother of all football weekends.
Stugotz
But the other game, because it's a division game and because of a lot of other reasons the quarterbacks aren't seen, don't have the history as the quarterbacks that we have in the other game where you've got Buffalo and Kansas City and we all say it.
Dan Le Batard
The AFC sexier, Dan. The AFC is just sexier.
Stugotz
It. It is sexier. But beyond that, I would ask you what do I have to do with a quarterback to make Washington's story not feel like it's finishing a distant fourth place to these three other teams we're talking about because a rookie quarterback winning two road playoff games. Eli Manning cemented his hall of Fame credentials by doing this through two postseasons. I don't think Eli Manning won another postseason game other than all the games he won on the road the two years he won the championship. But Jaden Daniels is now as a figure, someone who's probably just going to get better from here. Probably just going to get physically bigger like Lamar Jackson from here because he's listed at £210 and I don't know A lot of quarterbacks right now that are going at listed for £215. So when I say Jaden Daniels is going to grow as a quarterback, what do I have to make the rookie quarterback for you guys to believe in the idea of? Yes. I've already seen what Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes can do and I'm looking forward to seeing more of it.
Jeremy Corbell
But.
Stugotz
But I haven't seen the ceiling on what this is. This is just getting started. And it has a chance to go into the most hostile place with a player at that position who seems to show no fear of going in to hostile places. Like the mastery that you're getting from Jaden Daniels at the position as a rookie. Greg, you're an authority on football. How hard it is to play. As a columnist for a long time in the Miami Herald. I said before, Jaden Daniels is the best rookie quarterback since Dan Marino. Can you put into context what we're watching right now? A player who doesn't make mistakes when you're supposed to learn your way into the game by failing all over the place before you get to a level where we're watching something that you're taking out teams on the road, Right?
Jeremy Corbell
No, I agree with you that he's the best, most impressive rookie quarterback of this generation, for sure. On the other hand, he's a pretty big underdog in this NFC title game. He will be an underdog if he makes it to the Super Bowl. So I don't think we want to crown him yet. You know, C.J. stroud had a pretty damn good rookie season and then sort of had the sophomore slump. I think for Jayden Daniels to really reach the level you're talking about, he has to avoid the sophomore slump and really do it again next year. But they've had an extraordinary offense. Their defense isn't that outstanding. I don't even think Terry McLaurin had a great year, but I don't think he's. He has an elite receiver like some teams.
Greg Cody
No, Scary Terry's great. I mean, I love Scary Terry. He's a great player.
Jeremy Corbell
He's had a great season.
Stugotz
More.
Greg Cody
I mean, he's had a great season because the quarterback's finally there. He's had a couple of great seasons without good quarterbacks.
Stugotz
He is better at contested catches than anyone in the league. That's empirical.
Greg Cody
Damn good player.
Stugotz
I don't think you can dismiss that.
Jessica
Can I clarify? So he needs to Jaden Daniels do it in the playoffs next year while still in the playoffs this year.
Stugotz
That's Correct.
Greg Cody
That's right.
Jeremy Corbell
Yes, yes, yes. If you're talking about, you know, you already have him in the hall of Fame. He, look, he's had a great rookie season. He has terrific potential. But we've also seen quarterbacks across time, you know, really, really impress us and wow us and then sort of peter out a little bit. I'm just saying let's not send him to Canton just yet. Right?
Stugotz
Please put it on the poll, please. Does Jaden Daniels have to have a better year next year? This year? Have a better year next year? This year?
Greg Cody
Well, let's, let's frame this historically because Greg said some of these quarterbacks tend to flame out. This has actually happened quite a bit. It's a fairly new phenomenon. But rookie quarterbacks making the championship game has happened five times previous. Five times previously, most recently Brock Purdy as a Mr. Irrelevant. It's kind of crazy that we forgot about that one already. In terms of rookie quarterbacks to win two road playoff games, Mark Sanchez did that. He got to this point to the mixed bag pov. Joe Flacco in his rookie season made it to the AFC championship game. Ben Roethlisberger made it to the AFC championship game his rookie season and so did Sean King for the Tampa Bay Bucks. He was the first to do that. So bit of a mixed bag there. None of those rookie quarterbacks ended up going to the Super Bowl. Jaden Daniels would be the first one. And if you look at, at the list that I provided, none of those quarterbacks were the singular reason their teams found themselves in that spot. They were pretty loaded teams, most of these, built on their defenses. Jaden Daniels, I think we can reach consensus is the reason the Washington commanders are in this spot. If he makes it to the super bowl and is the first rookie quarterback to do that, we are in all time territory that is the greatest rookie season. I think when you not only take into account individual accomplishments, but team, that's whole new ground that we're breaking.
Stugotz
That's the reason that I'm finding this being in the shadows to be interesting because we're about to have a leap in stardom if he wins one more game. Like, I understand that football people know who this is and I understand that all of us who are even casuals were like, yeah, Washington wasn't that good with those skill guys and now they win games late and he's unflappable and he's just giving off this gen to, to his locker room, to his city and to a loser. He's giving off this. I got this in a way that's impossibly cool. I remember how Miami felt having Dan Marino, the, having the, the sensation that everyone's talking about, but the leap he's about to take if he beats Philadelphia in Philadelphia when we all know Philadelphia is better and we're, we're watching what is clearly the fourth best team. If Jaden Daniels can sneak in here somewhere, I don't know if people are rooting for it. I don't know. I don't know what the United States is rooting for when it's Washington against Philadelphia. I know people this week got real prisoner of the moment saying that this Barclay is the biggest Barclay in the history of Philadelphia around this show, that Saquon is bigger than Charles. But Jaden Daniels has a chance to do something uncommonly memorable here if you're.
Dan Le Batard
Talking about what America wants. I have been thinking this week, this may be a very difficult weekend for all of the haters because you have two very like long suffering sports franchises that if you're not a fan of one of those, you feel petty and spiteful, like you don't want one of them to win before you do, right? Like, oh my God, I can't believe the Commanders are about to win a Super Bowl. My team this, blah, blah, blah, this Steelers. But then you have the Chiefs who obviously like they, they win all the time. Like that's not interesting either. And then you have the Eagles who I think are like one of the more universally hated teams. Not my opinion. Just what a your typical hater would.
Stugotz
Think are the Bills, America's team, the.
Dan Le Batard
Lovable team in this. I guess, I guess most people would root for like the Commanders or the Bills being like first time in decades that they're in this position. Like that's interesting. But I think there are also a lot of petty sports fans that are like, screw you. You have Josh Allen. I'm sick of you. That's not fair. I wanted Jaden Daniels instead of stuck with Caleb Williams and the Bears stink. And now we're all having to convince ourselves Ben Johnson is going to be different this time.
Stugotz
Do you guys think that what might happen, someone else would think to you would happen? What happened to me during Lions and Washington where I'm watching the game and I think going into the game, yeah, I'm rooting for Detroit. Of course I'm rooting for Detroit. Holy shit. I'm rooting for Washington. Like it starts happening and I'm like, that changed on me while it was happening. I believe What Jessica is saying is accurate. The most lovable, benign thing that America could get behind is long suffering Bill's Mafia fan base that when Mark Andrews does that, finds a way to donate thousands of dollars to Mark Andrews because consistently Bill's mafia is doing something that is both kind and passionate and not whatever you think of Philadelphia. Philadelphia fans. Even though. Even though that tailgating and Blake breaking through flaming tables like those people are nuts too. But they've got a charitable component and it masks some things, I think. The Bills fan. 17 years without the playoffs before Josh Allen. Four straight Super Bowls losing all of them. An eternal echoing punchline when you get your regional identity from being a Buffalo Bills fan. I brave the cold in order to support my team. Is that the team that America is rooting for because they're tired of Taylor Swift, tired of Kansas City, tired of Travis Kelce, tired of Patrick Mahomes. And they want the Bills to not only win now, but then win in the next round, no matter who's available.
Greg Cody
I've never minded the Kansas City Chiefs throughout their entire run, even as the Taylor Swift thing was going on. And I understand how that rubbed people the wrong way because she's a woman. But this year it's gotten to me because of how they're doing it. You look at their numbers, you look at their point differential, you look at the fact that they haven't scored more than 30 points. Like it's. They can't keep getting away with this or getting away with things that flawed teams do. Yet you know that we still haven't seen the best. Patrick Mahomes. It's a huge weekend for football. The mother of all football weekends. All these tickets are so in demand. It's hard to get in that building. Diana. Diana Rossini's husband can't even get in that building. Well, guess what?
Diana Rossini
What?
Greg Cody
Diana Rossini's husband. Why don't you download the Game Time app, create an account and use a code. Dan for $20 off your first purchase. Diana Rossini's husband terms apply. Diana Rossini's husband. What time is it?
Jessica
Game time.
Greg Cody
You're married. Incredible one. Stat here on the Jaden Daniels thing because we. We mentioned that the other rookie quarterbacks that have found themselves in the in this position were carried by their defenses. I undersold it. Jeremy.
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah.
Jessica
Kyle Brandt pointed this out after Jaden Daniels made the conference championship. So here's where team scoring defenses ranked for each of these quarterbacks. Brock Purdy first. Mark Sanchez third. Joe Flacco third. Ben Roethlisberger first, Sean King third, Jaden Daniels 18th. So he's been carrying Washington.
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah. And Washington's especially bad against the run versus Saquon Barkley Not a great matchup, I don't think. But listen, Buffalo out underdogs, Washington in terms of nationwide America in general, if you're a dispassionate football fan rooting for the best story or what have you, you have to be a Bills fan. You just do. They haven't won. They haven't won anything since the AFL days.
Stugotz
Let me ask the group a question and I should tell everybody that we will have a bit of a skeletal show tomorrow in terms of staff because on Sunday we're going to do a watch party where we go up to the biggest game and we're going to be here on Sunday doing a live show for you during the games, a watch along, a simulcast. We love doing these. You guys love watching them. Greg Cody will be here and we will have a more vigorous crew on Sunday than we have tomorrow. But the thing that I wanted to ask you about this because it's been fairly amazing to watch Tom Brady hand over this particular mantle. The Chiefs are a confoundment and just about anybody who's watching football would simply assign the weird math of this season of them having two losses and all the games being close with oh, they took this from Brady. They know how to win. It's a thing that they know how to do. But I'm being told that that's a thing that Jaden Daniels also knows how to do. And I'm being told that in this game this is a thing that Josh Allen does not know how to against this quarterback who knows how to do it. But if I showed you the season statistically, if I didn't tell you it was Patrick Mahomes, I just showed you where he was under 4,000 yards for the first time. Three 300 yard games among the quarterbacks this weekend who won throwing for an average of 166 yards because of how confining some of the defenses make these things. Do you guys believe that you can articulate for me what knows how to win is beyond. I don't understand how they do that and they keep doing that. So they must know how to do that.
Greg Cody
This is the best time to argue they know how to win because I don't think we've ever seen a team, I guess it was a Lakers team that really coasted through the regular season and as a five seed learned to turn it on. And remember when the Heat really stumbled in their defense. Year in 07. We just kept referencing, well, Shaq has done this before. But the Chiefs have the bona fides. The Chiefs have been there. The Chiefs are always there. They're omnipresent in this conversation. We've seen them win, so they're not met with the same skepticism that other flawed teams might be. Even though this Chiefs team is flawed because we've seen them do it before and we know if there is a drive with 90 seconds or less on the clock, we are all terrified if we're opposing Patrick Mahomes.
Stugotz
Yeah, but you say we've seen them do this before and this is what I would tell you that we haven't seen. Everyone listening to this thinks Buffalo's better.
Greg Cody
I don't actually think so. Like, I look at the talent that Buffalo lost this offseason and yeah, in the trenches, it's not sexy. But I love that offensive line and I love that defensive line. Greg Russo might end up being the highest paid player on defense. It's a lot of great stories.
Dan Le Batard
But these guy.
Greg Cody
These aren't. Thank you for pointing that out. We should. And he. I think he played seven snaps against Florida. Thank you, Manny Diaz. But I think that this is really Josh Allen's year and he went through the other guy that he's neck and neck in the MVP race. And we have never in recorded history seen a quarterback in the postseason go over his first four against another quarterback. If the Chiefs win this, it'd be the first time that has ever happened. And it's another over four that the Bills would have to their name. I love that he's in this position because he has to go through, through both those guys in order to get to the ultimate legendary status, somehow even surpassing Jim Kelly in that market, which was thought impossible.
Jeremy Corbell
I, I do think it's Buffalo's year to, to win the Super Bowl. But when you talk about trying to quantify why the Chiefs win, why they know how to win. Andy Reid, in his career has coached 35 games either after a bye or after an off week. His record is 30 and 5. To me, if you have a coach that with added. Not just added rest, but added preparation time, has that kind of a record, pretty big sample size. That's a lot of it.
Stugotz
But hold on a second. They weren't off last week. You're talking about because they have an extra day of rest or like because they weren't off last week. Kansas City's not having extra preparation. They played last week.
Jeremy Corbell
I'm talking about in his career. He is 30 and five after a bye week or after a week of rest, which the super bowl is.
Stugotz
Okay, but we're talking about this game. And when I say that Buffalo is better. Mike, give me all the times Kansas City is a 1 1/2 point favorite at home in a playoff game with Patrick Mahomes. What was the spread in that Patriots game when the Patriots went in there and had what was I thought their most impressive victory of the entire Belichick era? Because they were not as good as that Kansas City team and they had the perfect game plan to just hold the ball all game and they beat that Kansas City team in Kansas City. But Buffalo being only a 1 1/2 point dog on the road says that the money says Buffalo's better. Like the record. Here's what you have with Buffalo and Kansas City that's interesting. Kansas City's record is better. But if I give you all the other stats, including the quarterback, and don't tell you, if I just put them next to each other and say, these people are playing these people. The only reason Kansas City is a favorite in this game by a point and a half, the only reason is because people think that they know how to do that, that there's not. They will not lose this game because Patrick Mahomes knows how to not lose this game. Being 16 and 3 in the playoffs with the same number of wins already.
Greg Cody
As Joe Montana in that 2019 AFC Championship game between Tom Brady's Patriots and Patrick Mahomes Chiefs. The Patriots were actually three point dogs headed into that game and one outright.
Dan Le Batard
Imagine being in the super bowl so many times, you're just like, oh yeah, we're playing in the super bowl later. Like, do you think Patrick Mahomes even is like, cool? This is a great moment. This is so important. I think he just shows up and he's like, oh, dang cool.
Greg Cody
You have the added juice of, even though the Bills haven't got the better of them in the postseason, they almost did in one of the greatest games of all time. They beat them this year. They were the. The defeat in their record, really, the lone real defeat. Because I'm not counting that Broncos one with them resting all starters. This one has so much juice to it that I do think he gets up for this. And it's. It's his contemporary. It's a guy that everyone is pointing to saying, that guy's probably MVP had a much better season than Patrick Mahomes. So he's going up against the Best version of Josh Allen and the perceived weakest version of himself. I think he gets up for it.
Jeremy Corbell
I think there's a reason why Buffalo is almost, it's almost a pick em game. 1 1/2 to 2 points depending where you look. Buffalo's offense is better than Patrick Mahomes offense this year. James Cook is a better running back than Kareem Hunt has been who's averaging like 3.4 yards a carry. And the defense. I would say Kansas City has an edge on defense but Buffalo's offense has been much better, appreciably better.
Stugotz
I do want you guys to look up for me though in the Mahomes era here how often they have been this small a favorite at home because this is all about the point differential between these two teams. We've all seen Kansas City play all of these close games and Buffalo blows people out more frequently. Almost never gets blown out. Neither does Kansas City. But we all remember watching Kansas City wheeze against Carolina this year just be overwhelming at any every turn. What you've seen in the salary cap age as they've lost Tyreek Hill is basically Kansas City's offense gets 10 points shaved off. It just they used to be a team you expected 30 plus points a game. Now they're routinely in the low 20s because that's how they win football games with one of the if not the youngest defense in in the sport. But I'm not going to find a lot of times that there is the feeling that the team going into Kansas City to play in the cold is this small of an underdog. The money is telling you that they think Buffalo is better and the reason that Kansas City can win is that know how to win with snow and home field.
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah, well it's a cold weather team. They're playing too. So I don't think the weather is that much of a differential here. But keep in mind Patrick Mahomes by his standards did not have an extraordinary season. Didn't even make the Pro bowl which is like unheard of. I mean he makes the Pro bowl every year.
Stugotz
Can you guys look up for me some of the statistical ranks of Patrick Mahomes this year so that people understand that he was between 10 and 15 and sometimes under 15 on in some places where that offense was limited and frustrating because this is not the Kansas City team you remembered and it's getting credit based on previous incarnations of the Kansas City team because Travis kelsey just had 117 of their 177 yards and people are saying he can Turn this on. Yeah, I've seen this happen before. He can have three straight hundred yard games because he can just flip a switch and say I'm not hurt anymore.
Greg Cody
This doesn't happen really. Patrick Mahomes being a home dog or slight fave all that often, but it did happen in 2021. The Chiefs were really struggling out the gates and they hosted Buffalo which was a one point favorite on the road. Revenge playing a big factor in that game. After one of the all timers.
Stugotz
And Buffalo ended up winning that game.
Greg Cody
Yep, I believe so. You're asking a lot of questions. You're really testing my chat GPT today.
Stugotz
Well, so forgive me for this but because this game is something that, that I believe the audience. This is super weird, man. This is a super weird situation to have in a game. One of the quarterbacks has been far and away better than the other the entire season and on top of that has eliminated his primary weakness in such an enormous way that he's the best protector of the football in the sport. And I think people believe that he will fumble or intercept or get thrown interception on Sunday and that he will figure out a way to not be able to beat the guy who knows how to win because he's got to learn something about knowing how to win.
Greg Cody
And I this is why we watch sports, dude. This is, this is legacy making stuff on the line. It's why I wanted the path of Lamar versus Josh Allen. Because you would have that no matter what going into the ASC championship game, provided that they handled their business against Houston. And thank goodness that they did because this is the drama that'll draw everybody in. They've had such marquee games that have been so highly rated that casual, tangential fans, girlfriends or boyfriends of people that follow this sport avidly know this storyline going into it and they know all the baggage that is attached to the.
Jessica
Buffalo Bills ahead of this game. The smallest spread that the Chiefs had had in a home playoff game was against the Bengals in the AFC championship game. That was one and a half.
Jeremy Corbell
Josh Allen is the MVP favorite against Patrick Mahomes going for the first three peat in history. Epic final. I know we in the semifinal. I know we, we all thought Buffalo against Baltimore was as good as it gets, but this is just a dramatic final. It dwarfs the, you know, Jaden Daniels aside, it dwarfs the NFC final.
Greg Cody
Yeah, it is funny because if you look at the championship odds, the Eagles are actually favored to win the championship. Now a lot of that has to do with their path going to it and that this is essentially a pick em game. So it's really hard to handicap a certain team going through this game and then winning the additional game. But whoever wins this game will indeed be favored in the Super Bowl.
Jessica
I was just handed a stat. Patrick Mahomes has been a two point favorite or less six times in the playoffs.
Stugotz
He's six and out of course. Would you drive an Oldsmobile or select at LeBatard show?
Greg Cody
Wait, wouldn't that run counter to the Bengals set that we just read off though because he did lose that game to the Bengals and if that was no, he just won't. The. The Bengals beat the Bengals.
Jessica
I had that. I could be wrong. I thought that was a Bengals went 3 to 20 victory for the Chiefs.
Greg Cody
I know. I saw the Rams play the Bengals. I wrote a musical.
Jessica
That's true. Just know if I was wrong it was handed to me on a paper.
Stugotz
Okay, very good. How about this? We haven't talked about this. Al golden has refurbished himself. Al golden is now a professional coach. He is now. I mean I know he was a professional coach before, but he is now coordinator. He is now in the NFL. He has revamped his entire image. Al golden is now pristine, is he not? He is a coveted person.
Dan Le Batard
He gave us one last corner blitz. One last corner blitz on the way out. I'm gonna miss him so much.
Stugotz
We have. Rose has gotten into position. It has been very disappointing that we have said that we are to support Pat Riley here and we are going to build a statute of Pat Riley that stands over the Miami Heats Arena. And it's been embarrassing to me as somebody who's the founder of Metalark Media and feels like we should have pride and class in the things we do. It's been embarrassing to see that. That inflatable. What do you call it, Jessica?
Dan Le Batard
Inflatable Wacky inflatable arm man.
Stugotz
Yeah. People know what you're talking about to be. Yes.
Dan Le Batard
His name's Toby.
Stugotz
Thank you. It's pathetic.
Jessica
We've heard your complaints. Video team, show them the new statue.
Stugotz
We have a new one.
Jessica
We're panning over very dramatically here.
Stugotz
We do have it. Hey.
Jeremy Corbell
Oh, wow.
Stugotz
Look at that.
Dan Le Batard
There's a statue. It looks like the actual guy.
Stugotz
Look at that.
Diana Rossini
It's him.
Jessica
He's there. Hasn't aged today. Looking young.
Jeremy Corbell
Better like this than the Wade statue.
Jessica
Pointing over like you see him there pointing at his arena.
Greg Cody
We got down to the bottom of the confusion. There were two AFC championships between the Bengals and the Chiefs. The one that the Bengals Actually won. The Chiefs were bigger favorites in that game. They were minus seven.
Stugotz
Yeah, I stopped listening as soon as there were a bunch of numbers.
Jessica
You want more numbers?
Stugotz
No, I do not. Although I do want you to appear every once in a while as the superhero who comes on and annoys people with Math Dog.
Greg Cody
Doesn't that want to do it for the numbers?
Stugotz
I know, I know, I know. But people don't like the numbers, and then sometimes there are too many numbers. And in this particular case, we ended up with so many numbers that you guys just ended up confusing everybody with Bengals numbers that you couldn't tell whether they were right.
Greg Cody
Well, you're the one that's just fallen in love with your new chatgpt toy via me. And you're just putting me in a really tough spot here.
Dan Le Batard
I'll give you a number. Al Golden. He's like six six. I mean, he's really tall. Just understated, but so tall.
Jeremy Corbell
Interesting.
Greg Cody
So much.
Stugotz
I don't believe that that's true.
Dan Le Batard
He was a tight end, wasn't he?
Stugotz
I think it is the only reason I stood next to him. He didn't feel like somebody who was substantively. You're like, yes, he's gotten taller since.
Greg Cody
He got to Notre Dame.
Stugotz
Yes, he did. I think, I think that happens sometimes.
Greg Cody
That's what happens when you stand on the shoulders of giants.
Dan Le Batard
He's ginormous, and I miss him so much.
Stugotz
Put it on the poll. Did you think or do you think al golden is 6 6? Greg Cody covered the University of Miami, and for some reason, you didn't blanch at all at that. Beyond, you know, you, you, you didn't know that. I should say. You just said wow in a way that suggested that you were super surprised by him being 6 6. Even though you covered him.
Jeremy Corbell
If you'd have told. Well, I didn't cover him directly. I haven't covered a, um, coach full time since Jimmy Johnson in the 80s. But to your point, I have been in Al Golden's company. I would have guessed he's about your height. Six, three maybe. I would not have guessed. Six. Six.
Dan Le Batard
We settle on six. Four and a half, maybe.
Jeremy Corbell
I would take that.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, I'll take that.
Diana Rossini
Good.
Jeremy Corbell
Over, Under.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
Jeremy Corbell
The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
Dan Le Batard
Just like that?
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
No hassle.
Stugotz
None.
Diana Rossini
That is super convenient.
Dan Le Batard
Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience. Pickup fees may apply.
Greg Cody
Hey, Jeremy.
Jessica
Yes, Mike?
Greg Cody
Have you ever had a fireside conversation during a football Sunday during the winter?
Jessica
Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it.
Greg Cody
I wish I could, but it's South Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like, we're bundled up, but certainly no fireplaces. Still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes makes football Sundays good. And I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this Miller Time.
Jessica
Oh, yeah.
Greg Cody
Miller Lite makes the winter better. It makes football Sundays better. It makes even hanging out around you better.
Jessica
Thanks, Mike. That was kind.
Greg Cody
I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Light in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend. Because we are like minded. Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer. Oh, and now the new year. It's the perfect time to have a Miller Time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. People out there, I want you to listen to me. And Jeremy, you too. Because you know it hits just different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Light. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell. Beer tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsively. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Mike Ryan
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Jeremy Corbell
Don LeBatard a woman who was out swimming with her friends is believed to have been swallowed whole by a 13 foot shark without any of her friends noticing. That's the weirdest part about that story. You're swimming with friends, you're having a good time and then all of a sudden people are looking around going, where's Shelly? Like nobody screamed.
Mike Ryan
Every friend group has a Shelly though, that if they go missing because a shark ate them whole, you wouldn't notice.
Jessica
Classic Shelly.
Mike Ryan
Exactly right.
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah.
Stugotz
Stugats.
Jeremy Corbell
She went quietly. Apparently. If I'm swallowed whole by a shark, you're gonna know it.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan lebatar Show with the stugats.
Stugotz
We have with us what can be empirically called our most popular guest. I think that people here on the show listening to it will be surprised to learn that this is our most popular guest. But he is without a doubt the world's foremost public authority on UFOs. It is a field that is going mainstream. It is getting more transparency from Washington. He's got a new three part docu series called UFO Revolution which you can stream for free on Tubi. And before I get to all of the things going on in this world, Jeremy, thank you for joining us. Jeremy Corbell, again, always appreciate your time. Before I get to what it is that you're chronicling these days, most urgently, can you please tell me the starting point on how this became such an obvious lane for you to traffic in as a very smart business model because people are unusually fascinated by your expertise.
Diana Rossini
First of all, hey guys, nice to be here again. I hope everybody kind of has seen what the last year has given us with this topic. To answer your question, first of all, there is no authority on UFOs that that's the problem. There is no expert. We don't have all the information that's become very clear, that's become very clear for decades. So people are trying to catch up, you know, including myself. Now the way you worded that, you know, Elaine, for me it was accidental, man. This isn't a business model. This is something that I'm passionate about. I got interested in this because through George Knapp, who's a great reporter, I realized we're being lied to. And I'm like, what's this big lie about? Why does it really matter if people are seeing UFOs? They've been reporting it. Our military is reporting it. Our militaries are filming it. Your government is telling you now the UFOs are real, that there are craft of unknown origin that are unidentified, that outpace, outmaneuver, and outperform our greatest weaponry. Then why is this a big secret? We need to talk about this to get to ground truth on what UFOs are, which nobody has a great explanation for.
Stugotz
Mike Ryan has seen this documentary UFO Revolution. I am told that we have a clip here to toss to because, again, people are unusually fascinated by this sub and more relevantly, unusually fascinated by recent developments that make this a more fertile time to actually believe with proof some of the things we're seeing and hearing. So let's play a clip from UFO Revolution. What extent will the US Government go.
Greg Cody
To to plug leaks?
Jessica
I try not to think about it.
Jeremy Corbell
Best thing you could do, perhaps, is to get your name out there, become as famous and bulletproof as you can. Because if they come after you relating to ufo, that's an acknowledgment that it's real.
Diana Rossini
Access Hollywood starts right now.
Dan Le Batard
Join us now is investigative journalist and documentary Jeremy Corbell.
Mike Ryan
Good to see you.
Stugotz
He's an investigative journalist and filmmaker. He's one of the world's foremost experts on the world of the unknown. Worth it.
Greg Cody
That was certainly my favorite part.
Stugotz
That legitimately surprised me, seeing me dressed as Richard Simmons with that bald spot. Yeah, I think we just played that in order to show that. I don't think we want you to comment on Mario Lopez, on what. What it is that was said there. But, Jeremy, when you say that people are lying, like, what are the most over facts that you have that would suggest that we've been lied to for this long?
Diana Rossini
Yeah, it's not a suggestion. If you go back in history and you just look at when people do Freedom of Information act requests and everything is blacked out, it's over classification. You've done been told by people who ran these programs that there has been an operation to lie to the American public, to diminish it. It's historic fact. Fact that Project Blue Book back in the day was a whitewash. The whole point of it was to, quote, demystify The UFO topic was to get people to stop believing or being curious about the UFO thing. Even the head of Project Blue Book, J. Allen Hynek later came out and said, yeah, we were told to diminish it and to dissuade the public from being interested. And this was a government program back in the day. So this, this still keeps going, this keeps maintaining. The problem is, is that people that run these programs are now speaking publicly. George Knapp and I brought somebody on our show called Weaponized, Dr. James McCaskey. He was the Defense Intelligence Agency representative for a UFO program that is now famously public. The New York Times helped break that story. And he told us, he told the American public, told us about one. He said, we have a craft of non human origin and we've breached the whole of it. I mean, this is an engineer, a physicist who worked verified in the UFO programs. You have David Grush testifying under oath to Congress saying we have crash retrieval programs that are secret, they've been held for the American public. We're trying to reverse engineer these technologies. And that, you know, people have been harmed and hurt for trying to come forward. Actually, he said people have died trying to come forward to talk about this. This is all under oath in Congress. That was the big step. I think that's why we're talking about this now is because patriots, people that have worked for our country in the intelligence agencies are now coming forward and saying this is a reality and we can't be blind to it because if we're blind to it, then we're going to be behind.
Greg Cody
There is so much staggering evidence out there, and yet when you bring this up in the mainstream, people will. I'm sure you've been called a kook before. People will attack this as some sort of crazy conspiracy theory. And one of the prevailing theories as to why that is is because the existence of some other life form. And I know there's a separation. UFOs are not necessarily alien life. And that's where the big mysteries here. But just merely addressing this and giving it credence challenges a lot of the theologies, pretty much all of them on this planet. So I guess this is a very roundabout way to ask you this. Is it easier to just cover the whole thing up and just treat it like this can't possibly exist so we ignore it? Is that an easier cover up than what if the actual cover up is what you actually know is possible on this planet about technology or military advancements is pretty much just the tip of the iceberg and the real secret here is what our capabilities are, right?
Diana Rossini
I mean, so this is the thing. Look, I've seen the climate change even on the show. Don't think I forgot the first time I was on the show, I was getting some words from somebody back there. Look, that's the thing. This, this conversation is progressing with or without every individual. There are people paying attention now, and I think that's so cool. I don't mind taking ridicule. I think this is important. I mean, I really think this is important. That's why my journalism is focused on this. You can attack people saying it, but we got to go to what are the facts, what's happening. You've now had six people testify in front of Congress telling you about the reality. You've had New York Times break stories. You have whistleblowers coming forward. A lot of times people come forward through the media, through tv, through movies. That's just like the way it has to happen if you don't have the microphone at Congress. So the climate has completely changed about this subject now. Why the secrecy? This is something that I'm still trying to understand after all this time of working on it. The core of it. It may be our belief systems. It could shatter our belief systems, sure. But really, I think there was good reason at the beginning, during the atomic era, when we started lighting off nukes and being able to blow up the world. You know, I think that there was a secrecy that was put in place. A kind of architecture for our safety is kind of the idea for national security, but also just security of our planet. So I think what's happened is, you see that the UFO topic at first was being covered up. Because if this is true, we better get a handle on these technologies. If we can exploit this technology and get a technological advantage, whatever nation does that first, they win. If we can replicate these craft, if we can replicate what they do. It appears to be a different form or understanding of physics by the way these craft move. That's famously shown by the 2004 Tic Tac case with Commander David Fravor, who chased a UFO for the United States military. He testified in front of Congress. So my thought is that is the reason the secrecy was first initiated was to try to exploit the technologies before Russia, before China. You might have had Representative Gallagher Kroger on this show before, if I recall, he talked about that. It's called strategic surprise. So maybe that's the reason. However, now we know UFOs are real. You've been told that, but that's as far as it's gone and you can't put that away. Once that's been said, there are more questions coming. Now, is this going to shake the foundations of what we think about the universe, about us, about. If you're religious, about your religion? I don't know, I have no idea. But I know if we don't address it, we're going to have major issues.
Stugotz
Jeremy, if I could, because people want so much information from you and I have so many questions. Let me do this a little more rapid fire. I'm going to limit 30 seconds each time to each answer. Question number one, what does your email inbox look like?
Diana Rossini
It looks like a slot machine in Vegas at midnight.
Stugotz
Like it's just constant of just people telling you, I saw this over here and it looked like a jellyfish and it was flying 100,000 miles an hour.
Diana Rossini
All around the world, 24,7 UFOs are seen, they're filmed. People also just want to tell me their experiences. You know, people you wouldn't imagine. They said, you know, this is not for public. This is for you to know as a data point in your research. It's incredible the amount of people that hit me up every day.
Stugotz
You must be sitting on a lot of leaks. What's your process to confirm?
Diana Rossini
Great, you know, great question. People get really mad that I sit on information. They say, well, if I just took my emails and put them out on the Internet, it's not going to help anybody because the signal to noise, I take years. George Knapp and I have our own methods and our own sources. If we get leaks to us, if people leak stuff to us as journalists, it's a catch all we take them in. We have to vet, verify who's the person. Can they stand behind that? Can we see their documents? Is the video worthy of putting out to the public? People also try to trick us all the time. They would love for me to make a mistake, to put something out that is easily explainable later. People try. So my process is trying over years with each case to see if I can verify the individuals and the information.
Stugotz
Only 31% of Americans trust the mainstream media. It's a record low. Do you think Americans now prefer to believe independent journalists like you?
Diana Rossini
I hope that the average American individual can see that we're not on script, that we say it like we know it at the time. I think there's a lot of great power in individual hands now for journalism and it's going to take a lot of people. There is no expert on UFOs it's going to take a lot of people looking at this, so I hope, I hope they do.
Stugotz
TMZ presents UFO Revolution. It's a three part event. It's now streaming on Tuvi Tubi. The greatest example that you have of shocking evidence most recently is blank.
Diana Rossini
You know, in my series, the most recent one is there was a military filmed. It looks like the gimbal ufo, that very famous one that's gone all over the media in black and white. This, this footage looks green. And this object comes up in Iraq during deployment in a combat zone. And there's a Marine who contacted me and you could hear what he has to say. And it looks like a saucer. It looks like the Gimbal ufo. That's a pretty cool piece of evidence.
Stugotz
Does the government plan to tell us at any time soon that something is about to arrive from another place and land here in 2027?
Diana Rossini
Right. So this is something people are taking out of context that I talked about in my show. I am not saying that. I am saying I believe that to be a lie. And the reason why I put that in the show and people clip it to make it sound like I'm saying that. I'm saying it's. I believe it to be a lie. And the reason I'm saying that is because there's like a whisper campaign within journalists, within our community, we've all heard it. That this is all preparation of the battlefield and there's some craft coming. I don't buy that for a second. I know the origin of it. I've tried to run it down. So I was trying to warn people of being told what I consider to be that lie. And look, if I'm wrong, we're all screwed.
Greg Cody
Not to turn this into a political discussion, but the current president has gone on podcasts and has been asked about aliens. And he's shown a genuine interest to declassify everything that there is out there. And he's certainly now dealing with big tech and a lot of billionaires that have gone into space. Are we now more likely than ever with this administration, administration to get more clarity, more transparency around this stuff?
Diana Rossini
Yeah, I mean, look, words are cheap. Everybody has said that they want to have more transparency on UFOs. Bill Clinton even he actually tried to get transparency on UFOs. American public, I don't know who's controlling that information. But presidents before haven't been able to. Is it different this time? Well, I definitely know that some of the people that have been vocal about transparency on this are now in this administration. So I do hope. I don't think transparency on this is going to come from our government. I think it's going to come from civilians and journalists.
Stugotz
Jeremy, I appreciate your time. We appreciate your perspective. Thank you for being on with us. I look forward to seeing this on Tubi. What you did to me there was unfair. It's a bit horrifying and delightful. Thank you. I appreciate it. Jeremy.
Diana Rossini
Yeah, man. You did it to yourself. You wore the costume. Hey, guys, thanks so much. I'll see you next time. Thank you for covering this.
Stugotz
Yes. Work. A lot of people really like him. I have. I have an email I've been sent here that I find fairly shocking, and I just want to put it on all of you and see what you think. Reporting from Georgia, an emailer writes in, the people who cut the TSA line were Scott Van Pelt and Matthew Barry.
Jeremy Corbell
Whoa.
Stugotz
Can you confirm that Silence is damning.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, that's. That's that report.
Stugotz
Yeah, that is that report.
Dan Le Batard
It's interesting.
Stugotz
I. I'm gonna. I'm gonna see if I can find out right now whether FaceTime Scott Vampel right now. Would you like me to do that? All right, let's see if we do this.
Jessica
This is usually my move on, Mr. Mystery Crate.
Stugotz
This is gonna be embarrassing.
Dan Le Batard
Hello, Kyle.
Greg Cody
People love that, by the way. They just love it.
Stugotz
All right, I'm gonna do.
Dan Le Batard
Wait. Take your shirt off, Dan. That's how you normally do this, right?
Stugotz
I shouldn't do it.
Greg Cody
There's a fleshy colored hoodie.
Jessica
Tell him you're on. He's on air.
Stugotz
I will tell him.
Dan Le Batard
You need to get to the bottom of this.
Jessica
Put the mic closer to the mic.
Greg Cody
Well, we are not bound by FCC rules.
Stugotz
I haven't called him in a long time. I'm hoping he doesn't answer.
Jessica
We're not live right now.
Greg Cody
I'm not even sure the FCC is around anything partially illegal. What we're doing.
Stugotz
Doing.
Dan Le Batard
He'll answer. He loves you.
Stugotz
I don't want him to answer right now. I don't want to put him in this position, but you guys put me in this.
Jessica
How do you imagine SVP answers? Hey, Denny. What's up, man?
Greg Cody
Yes, go.
Stugotz
He did not go for Scott, but I want to accuse him of it publicly. Everyone go ahead and accuse him of it publicly. Say it's being reported from Georgia via email. I did want to talk to Greg Cody about something that he was maintaining earlier that I thought to be a fairly shocking viewpoint, which is he came out and said that athletes need to do better about not getting robbed.
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah, I wish we lived in a world where we didn't have to worry about burglars. But I think it's axiomatic that the richer you are, the more likely your home is to be targeted. And if I'm an athlete making 40, 50 million bucks a year and I hear about all this, guess what? I'm gonna spend a couple of bucks, maybe get some on site security, maybe build a big wrought iron fence. I'm gonna do something to insulate my home from what seems to be a Fairly systematic burglary.
Greg Cody
Ring 62190.
Jeremy Corbell
And my cars got broken into at my home. I'm not that big of a guy.
Jessica
Are we victim shaming?
Greg Cody
I think I rolled in six with three.
Dan Le Batard
I gave you six. Four and a half. That's as low as I'm gonna go.
Greg Cody
You show me a picture of him standing next to Kyle Hamilton, and he's a an inch shorter, but he might.
Dan Le Batard
Be standing farther away from the camera.
Greg Cody
He's also listed 6'three in his playing.
Jeremy Corbell
Why is it a debate how tall he is? Let's just look it up.
Jessica
I'm telling you, it's not available between 3 inches. We lost information.
Greg Cody
And I'm beyond the free Membership of chat. ChatGPT now. At this point, I have to go to a paid model. I'm not quite ready to do that.
Jessica
Dad, how tall are you?
Jeremy Corbell
I am five.
Greg Cody
Now, this is a new and unimproved.
Stugotz
Dan Levitar show with the stugats gamble on by draftkings.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
Jeremy Corbell
The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest over 36 months. Yeah, no. Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
Dan Le Batard
Just like that.
Jeremy Corbell
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
No hassle?
Stugotz
None.
Diana Rossini
That is super convenient.
Dan Le Batard
Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience. Pickup fees may apply.
Greg Cody
Hey, Jeremy.
Jessica
Yes, Mike?
Greg Cody
Have you ever had a fireside conversation during a football Sunday during the winter?
Jessica
Sure. We don't have a lot of fireplaces down here, but I've had the premise of it.
Greg Cody
I wish I could, but it's south Florida. When it gets down to the 60s, we're like. We're bundled up. But certainly no fireplace. It's still too warm for that. But we do have our football Sundays. And one thing that always makes football Sundays good. And I know you've had plenty of experience in your life with this Miller Time.
Jessica
Oh yeah.
Greg Cody
Miller Lite makes the winter better. It makes football Sundays better. It makes even hanging out around you better.
Jessica
Thanks, Mike. That was kind.
Greg Cody
I appreciate that. You're my friend. When I have a Miller Light in my hand, pretty much everybody is my friend. Because we are like minded. Because we like beer that actually tastes like beer. Oh, and now the new year. It's the perfect time to have a Miller Time. Miller Lite is brewed for taste. People out there, I want you to listen to me and Jeremy, you too. Because you know it hits just different than other light beers. The original light beer since 1975 and still the very best one. Miller Lite great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Summary of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" Episode: Hour 2: Jeremy Corbell and the UFO Revolution
Release Date: January 23, 2025
In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve deep into two major topics: the rising prominence of rookie quarterback Jaden Daniels in the NFL playoffs and the burgeoning interest in UFO phenomena, featuring special guest Jeremy Corbell. The conversation seamlessly transitions from the gridiron to the enigmatic skies, offering listeners a blend of sports analysis and intriguing extraterrestrial discussions.
A. Jaden Daniels' Exceptional Rookie Season
The episode opens with an intense discussion about Jaden Daniels, the rookie quarterback making waves in the NFL playoffs. Stugotz highlights Daniels' remarkable performance, comparing him to legendary quarterbacks like Eli Manning and Dan Marino.
Greg Cody supports this sentiment by emphasizing Daniels' composure and lack of mistakes, traits uncommon in rookie quarterbacks.
B. Comparing Daniels to Past Rookie Quarterbacks
The hosts compare Daniels' achievements to previous rookies, noting that while past rookies reached playoff stages, none had the combination of individual prowess and team reliance that Daniels brings to Washington.
C. Chiefs vs. Bills: America's Favorite Showdown
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the impending Super Bowl matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills. The hosts debate why the Chiefs are perennial favorites, citing Patrick Mahomes' unparalleled ability to perform under pressure.
Greg Cody counters by analyzing the Bills' offensive improvements and Josh Allen's potential to outperform Mahomes.
D. Statistical Insights and Team Dynamics
The conversation delves into team statistics, point differentials, and defensive strengths. Greg Cody presents historical data on playoff performances, while Jessica adds depth by comparing team defenses and offensive strategies.
A. Introduction of Jeremy Corbell
Transitioning from sports, the hosts introduce Jeremy Corbell, an investigative journalist and documentary filmmaker renowned for his expertise on UFOs.
B. The UFO Revolution Docu-Series
Jeremy Corbell discusses his new three-part docu-series, "UFO Revolution," which aims to shed light on unidentified flying objects and the government's role in concealing information.
C. Government Transparency and Historical Cover-Ups
Diana Rossini, a key figure alongside Corbell, elaborates on historical government projects like Project Blue Book, emphasizing the long-standing efforts to demystify and downplay UFO sightings.
D. Recent Testimonies and Evidence
The duo presents recent testimonies from defense officials and military personnel, highlighting credible evidence of non-human-origin craft and the ongoing efforts to reverse-engineer advanced technologies.
E. Public Perception and Future Implications
The discussion touches on how increased transparency might challenge existing belief systems and the potential societal impacts if UFO evidence becomes widely accepted.
F. Rapid-Fire Q&A with Jeremy Corbell
In a light-hearted segment, Stugotz engages Corbell in a rapid-fire question session, exploring topics ranging from his overwhelming number of UFO reports to his methods of verifying credible information.
Throughout the episode, the hosts interject humor and interact with co-hosts and guests in playful banter, enhancing the show's engaging and dynamic atmosphere. From playful debates about the height of Al Golden to humorous promotions of Carvana and Miller Lite, the episode maintains a balanced mix of serious discussion and lighthearted moments.
Stugotz (02:04): "Jaden Daniels is now as a figure, someone who's probably just going to get better from here."
Greg Cody (05:05): "Jaden Daniels would be the first one [rookie QB] where he is the singular reason his team is here."
Dan Le Batard (09:12): "What's America rooting for? Is it the Chiefs, who always seem to come out on top, or the Bills, who've had a resurgence?"
Greg Cody (19:00): "Josh Allen is the MVP favorite against Patrick Mahomes, going for the first three-peat in history."
Jeremy Corbell (34:45): "We are being lied to. Why does it really matter if people are seeing UFOs?"
Diana Rossini (34:45): "Project Blue Book was a whitewash, designed to diminish public interest in UFO phenomena."
Diana Rossini (38:31): "If we don't address it, we're going to have major issues."
This episode masterfully balances the excitement of NFL playoffs with the profound mysteries surrounding UFOs. The hosts provide insightful analysis on Jaden Daniels' potential to revolutionize the quarterback position while also giving listeners an informed perspective on the increasing legitimacy and interest in UFO research. Jeremy Corbell's participation brings credibility and depth to the UFO discussion, making this episode both entertaining and enlightening for fans of sports and the unexplained alike.