The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: Keyon Dooling? (feat. Amin Elhassan)
Date: November 25, 2025
Guests: Amin Elhassan, Zaza Pachulia, Chris Cody, others

Episode Overview

In this energetic episode from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and friends offer their signature blend of sports analysis, playful ribbing, and oddball pop culture takes. Key themes include the ongoing “legend or not a legend” debate around South Florida sports personalities, the authenticity of athlete podcasts, Chris Paul’s enduring NBA legacy (and his penchant for “nut-tapping”), movie “blind spots,” and a live experiment in Amin Elhassan’s (humorous) investigative segment. The crew’s chemistry and fast-paced banter make for a lively hour, perfect for both sports fans and those who love the show’s inside jokes and familial tone.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Legend or Not a Legend? – South Florida Sports Media Edition

(05:10–12:27)

• The group riffs on who constitutes a genuine "South Florida sports legend," evaluating a cast of radio, TV, and media personalities.
• Notable names like Ed Kaplan, Big O, Joy Taylor, Jim Barry, and Kim Bokamper are hotly debated.
• Humor and personal bias color the verdicts. Zaza playfully admits, “I think he sucks, but the answer is yes. That’s because I have credibility, integrity.” (09:35)
• The word “legend” is treated almost sacramentally: “Legend is a really strong word.” (08:47, Zaza)
• Self-reflection arises: Chris Cody asks, “Am I a legend locally?” to which Zaza, after a pause, says, “Yes.” (08:54–09:02)

Notable Quote

“I don’t even believe that. I think so because he got fired from his... That’s his greatest achievement, getting fired.”
— Dan LeBatard on Chris Cody's "legend" status (09:04)

2. Real or Fake Podcasts? — Who Actually Has a Show?

(12:00–16:25)

• The game “Real or Fake Podcast” spotlights just how saturated sports podcasting has become — and how little even insiders keep up.
• Dan embarrasses himself by doubting the existence of “The Crossover with Keyon Dooling,” only to learn it’s co-hosted by their own Tony.
• The crew has a laugh at Dan’s expense: “Keon Dooling hasn’t heard of Tony’s podcast!”
• Admits to missing friends’ shows, poking at the oversaturation and in-jokes of sports media.

Notable Quote

“It wasn’t just him. It was like, who else would listen to that? That has to be fake. And thank god for the setup ... we have just given Danny great shame.”
— Dan Le Batard, after realizing his error about “The Crossover” (15:03)

3. Chris Paul’s NBA Legacy & The “Nut Tapper” Reputation

(21:23–26:16)

• Amin runs brief “Weekend Observations,” lamenting his teams’ fortunes and moving quickly to Chris Paul, speculating this may be the end of Paul’s career.
• The crew debates how Chris Paul is remembered: an all-time great, yet notorious for “nut-tapping” opponents.
• Amin recalls a never-aired ESPN segment on Chris Paul’s greatest “nut tap” hits: “Disney got too scared ... they wouldn’t even air it digitally.” (24:35, Amin)
• Chris Paul’s playoff failures and “unclutch” label are discussed as bigger legacy blemishes than his on-court antics.

Notable Quote

“He’s a habitual nut tapper.”
— Amin Elhassan, bluntly distilling a quirky part of Paul’s career (24:35)

“His legacy is soiled, I think more by high profile shortcomings in the playoffs ... the Internet is very strong in creating reputations that are, that are unfair. Chris Paul being unclutch is one of them.”
— Amin adds nuance to the debate (25:36)

4. Sports Movie Blind Spots & “Amin Finds Out”

(27:27–35:04)

• Amin uncovers Zaza’s surprising movie blind spots: he has never seen “Rush Hour” or “Rush Hour 2.”
• Zaza shrugs off the shame. “Rush Hour is not a classic ... who cares?”
• The panel is aghast, debating which movies are essential for a “movie buff.”
• Zaza refuses to watch “Dodgeball” because it’s been hyped too much: “There’s no way it’s as good as everyone’s making it sound.”
• Amin insists “Rush Hour” is Jackie Chan’s best and a must-watch, noting his own children prefer it to modern Disney fare.

Notable Quote

“You make it sound like the only way that you’re a movie person is if you’ve seen every movie.”
— Zaza, protesting Amin's incredulity (33:31)

5. NBA Draft Redraft: The Next Big Thing?

(37:10–41:16)

• The panel debates who would go first if last year’s draft were redone — Khalil Ware or Stephon Castle.
• Amin argues for Ware’s upside: “When you talk about someone 7 foot tall, could shoot and who can defend the way he can, that is always going to be tantalizing...” (38:36)
• But hesitates to crown him: “Time will tell if what we’re seeing from Khalil Ware is real and sustainable, or is he just having a good streak.” (38:36)

6. Miami Heat & Player Development Culture

(41:35–42:45)

• Discussion of Erik Spoelstra’s sometimes stubborn loyalty to certain rotation players (specifically Terry Rozier).
• Amin: “Mike SPO has this weird kind of obligation sometimes to guys that like, I can’t sit that guy. And Terry Rozier was one of those guys.”
• Noting that removing underperformers like Rozier ultimately helped the team.

7. NBA Beef Decoding: Ja Morant vs. Klay Thompson

(42:45–43:36)

• Amin presents an alternative read of a viral Ja Morant trash talk line, theorizing it may have referenced fellow player Cam Spencer rather than Klay Thompson.
• The crew debates the plausibility and laments how out-of-control NBA beef storylines can get.

Notable Quote

“Once one guy starts talking, now they’re both talking ... The start.”
— Amin, on how NBA feuds spiral (43:36)

Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Legend is a really strong word.” — Zaza Pachulia (08:47)
• “He’s a habitual nut tapper.” — Amin Elhassan, on Chris Paul (24:35)
• “Disney got too scared because we were talking about nut taps ... wouldn’t even air it digitally.” — Amin (24:35)
• “I think he sucks, but the answer is yes. That’s because I have credibility, integrity.” — Zaza, on Jimmy Cephalo (09:35)
• “There’s no way it’s as good as everyone’s making it sound ... I’ve never once said, man, I wish I’d watched dodgeball.” — Zaza, on refusing to watch “Dodgeball” (33:04)
• “You can be a legend in two different places.” — Zaza, on Jorge Sedano (11:28)
• “We have just given Danny great shame.” — Dan Le Batard, realizing his error on “The Crossover” podcast (15:03)

Notable Segments & Timestamps

• Legend/Not a Legend Game: (05:10–12:27)
• Real or Fake Podcast Game: (12:00–16:25)
• Chris Paul Discussion/Weekend Observations: (21:23–26:16)
• Amin Finds Out (Movie Blind Spots): (27:27–35:04)
• NBA Redraft Debate: (37:10–41:16)
• Miami Heat Player Development Discussion: (41:35–42:45)
• Ja Morant vs. Klay Thompson Feud Theory: (42:45–43:36)

Tone and Style

• Playful, fast-paced, irreverent banter is paramount, with running inside jokes and self-deprecating humor.
• Plenty of good-natured ribbing about who’s “in the club” of South Florida sports royalty.
• Amin’s sarcasm and willingness to go off on odd tangents keeps the show unpredictable and sharp.
• Candid “family table” debates morph into pop-culture therapy sessions and post-mortems of the hosts’ own career choices.

For New Listeners

This episode offers a microcosm of why The Dan Le Batard Show retains such a devoted audience: the content is unpredictable, the chemistry real, and the distinctions between “serious” sports commentary and pure entertainment vanish entirely. If you wonder how a “legend” is made, why Chris Paul’s antics matter, or what Rush Hour has to do with sports radio, you’re in the right place.