Hour 2: Landman Don't Miss

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 2: Landman Don't Miss (Nov 3, 2025)
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike, Tony, and guests

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is a vibrant blend of Miami Hurricanes college football analysis, broader college football playoff implications, sharp sports commentary, comedic pop-culture riffs, and loose banter about everything from NFL kickers to pro wrestling nostalgia. The conversation pivots around the current state of the Miami Hurricanes football program, reflections on coaching trends, frustrations and comic relief about sports, and long stretches of riffing, running gags, and Weekend Observations—a signature bit.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Miami Hurricanes: State of the Program and CFP Hopes

• The group opens with effusive praise for the Miami Hurricanes' versatility and dominance.
  • Mike: “They are the best team in college football…They can beat you with big plays now. They can beat you with defense.” (00:49)
  • Dan: “Miami looks like they can beat anyone in the nation.” (01:07)
  • Comparisons are drawn to Miami’s historic 2001 team, with consensus that Miami looks complete but needs to stay healthy.
• The neutral field for the national title (in Miami) is discussed as potentially fortuitous. (01:15)
• Jokes fly about accusing the setup of being “fixed,” tongue-in-cheek referencing sports conspiracy theories. (01:20)
• The expectation and pressure Mario Cristobal faces is talked about openly.
  • Dan: “He was brought here to win national championships.” (01:30)
  • Stugotz: “You can’t be going around saying five and, oh, everything’s fixed.” (01:38)
  • Dan: “I think you can say the major problems facing this program are fixed.” (01:42)
• Comparison to Manny Diaz Era:
  • The conversation calls back to past coaching, with Tony and Dan debating whether Diaz’s ACC record is even relevant, since, in Tony’s words: “Why do I give a shit about that? Manny Diaz was the coach here. He was awful.” (06:12)

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2. Mario Cristobal as Program ‘Floor Raiser’

• Debate on whether Cristobal has elevated the program, but not “over the hump.”
  • Dan: “Mario Crucible has elevated the floor. Now. Your problem is you just can’t get over the hump…like before, we were talking about 7-win football teams, 6-win football teams … but the frustrating part is the intangible stuff and their inability to respond to it.” (06:29)
  • Tony probes: “How many coaches are there in college football that can get you over the hump? It feels like there’s less than a handful.” (07:40)
  • Dan: “It’s a tough sport...it’s like baseball, only you multiply the teams by three…Look at Harbaugh at Michigan…there’s one team that gets to win.” (07:51)
• The hosts discuss the “mental thing” with Miami folding under pressure as teams adapt. (08:15)

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3. CFP Playoff Scenarios and Resume Math

• Tony and Dan debate whether it's better for Miami’s resume if Notre Dame keeps winning.
  • Dan: “The best thing…for Miami in terms of that conversation is to have Notre Dame keep winning…because the head to head matchup has to matter.” (09:34)
  • Dan is skeptical Miami can go undefeated the rest of November, citing past failings when faced with adversity: “No one really thinks Miami can go 4 and oh in the next month. No one.” (09:57)

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4. Weekend Observations & Sports Randomness (15:00–24:00)

• Stugotz leads a rapid-fire, comedic rundown of wild sports happenings.
  • Kicker feats, MVP bars, and the distinction between being “in the MVP conversation” and “bottle service” dominate. (15:00)
  • Absurd record-setting field goals, notably Cam Little’s 68-yarder, get comic treatment:
    • “The only thing bigger than the day for kickers is the balls on Liam Cohen after Cam Little missed three kicks in the last two games…You know what that is? Balls.” – Stugotz (16:09)
  • A tangent about NFL defenders and punching at balls: “What I am against is if you miss, you can’t just go around punching guys.” – Tony (16:52)
  • Stugotz riffs on bay leaves, Stephen A. Smith on the Dolphins’ firing, and the nature of jokes, quipping: “The beauty of a joke is not in making the whole room laugh… it’s in making a few people laugh and have the rest of the room wondering what’s so damn funny.” (18:35)
  • Top Five Things Pablo Torre Never Could Do (e.g., withhold his alma mater; not dress like Mr. Rogers) (19:15)

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5. Shohei Ohtani and Athlete Language Barriers

• The panel jokes about Ohtani “cracking” and possibly understanding/speaking English, and how the same scrutiny isn't given to Latin players.
  • Stugotz: “I’m gonna tell you why. Because when the Latin players speak English, it sounds like, oh, yeah, your English isn’t that strong. This guy Zach says, sounds better than a broadcaster. All right, thanks, guys. I’m like, what?” (20:55)

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6. NFL: Bengals Dysfunction & Open Criticism

• A segment shines on the Bengals defense’s failures and open frustration from the offense:
  • Chase Brown (Bengals RB) [quoted]:
    "We just gotta finish, finish, finish these goddamn games. Please finish them." (35:01)
  • Tony: “When do you ever hear a player talk about the other side of the football like that?” (35:39)
  • Jamar Chase also is quoted directly: “I’m gonna stay in my lane. I don’t want a defensive player coming, chew me out about what I’m doing.” (36:03)
  • They riff on tensions and joke about putting both units "in a pit" to settle things. (36:19)

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7. Coaching Generational Shift

• Reflections on how coaches and sports executives are now often younger than the hosts.
  • Stugotz: “That really scares me. It means me and Al Golden aren’t that far off in age…I don’t like this. I liked the day when all the coaches were like 100 years older than me.” (36:47)
  • Dan: “Every coaching hire is, like, younger than you now.” (36:56)
  • Anecdotes about 33-year-old MLB managers and 31-year-old assistant GMs. (37:14)

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8. NBA Pelicans, Bad Trades & Team Bailouts

• Panel calls for NBA “bailouts” or even “contraction” for the struggling Pelicans.
  • “Is there a worse situation in the NBA than a star player who is in and out of the lineup, who’s not that good right now? In Zion Williamson, you have nothing to look forward to. You have no first round picks. He got absolutely nothing.” – Guest (40:19)
  • The infamous unprotected first-round pick trade and its lasting damage are dissected. (39:00–40:19)

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9. Pop Culture & Nostalgia: Wrestling and Rambo

• Heavy riffing on Rambo sequels and their outlandishness.
  • Stugotz: “He can kill people in a lot of different ways, folks.” (25:19)
  • Tony: “Now why is one of them called Rambo Last Blood?” (25:22)
• Wrestling memories from the 1980s and ticket price debates for John Cena’s “last match.”
  • Tony: “Cheapest lower level seat… $500. And it’s like at the very top of the lower level.” (28:45)
  • Jokes about resale ticket scams and bots are explored. (27:37–28:25)

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10. Comedic Bits & Banter

• The show is loaded with comedy throughout:
  • Bay leaf taste debate: “What does a bay leaf taste like? Would I be able to taste its absence?” – Stugotz (17:01)
  • Trump at Gatsby party as “The Greater Gatsby." (32:09)
  • Ticketing hacks and the illusion of scarcity at major events (27:37–28:25)
  • Wrestling ring improvements: “They should put the whole ring in a pit… like a Roman Colosseum.” – Stugotz (29:39)
  • “I can taste all the sights and sounds.” (30:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “They are the best team in college football…They can beat you with big plays now. They can beat you with defense. They’re not going to do all of the dumb things.” – Mike (00:49)
• “Manny Diaz wasn’t the answer. Mario Crucible has elevated the floor. Now. Your problem is you just can’t get over the hump. You can’t get to Charlotte.” – Dan (06:29)
• “It’s a tough sport…There’s one team that gets to win.” – Dan (07:51)
• “The beauty of a joke is not in making the whole room laugh… it’s in making a few people laugh and have the rest of the room wondering what’s so damn funny.” – Stugotz (18:35)
• “When do you ever hear a player talk about the other side of the football like that?” – Tony (35:39)
• “I liked the day when all the coaches were like 100 years older than me.” – Stugotz (36:47)
• “Is there a worse situation in the NBA than a star player who is in and out of the lineup, who’s not that good right now? In Zion Williamson, you have nothing to look forward to. You have no first round picks.” – Guest (40:19)
• “He can kill people in a lot of different ways, folks.” – Stugotz, on Rambo (25:19)
• “The Greater Gatsby. The best Gatsby they ever had.” – Stugotz (32:18)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Miami Hurricanes Talk – 00:49–09:57
• Cristobal as Floor Raiser/Coaching Talk – 06:29–08:15
• CFP Playoff Math/Debate – 09:34–10:41
• Weekend Observations – 15:00–24:00
• Shohei/Langauge Barriers – 20:42–21:07
• Bengals Dysfunction – 34:01–36:19
• Coaching Youth/GM Age – 36:13–37:37
• Pelicans & Bad NBA Trades – 38:12–40:19
• Wrestling/Rambo/Jokes – 24:39–28:25, 25:19–27:02, 32:01–33:36

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Tone & Language

• Highly conversational, alternating between serious sports analysis and comedic derision
• Fast-paced banter, frequent inside-jokes, sarcasm, and pop-culture references
• Irreverent, self-deprecating, and playful throughout

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Summary Takeaway

The show offers a mix of faith and skepticism in Miami Hurricanes football, a microcosm of modern sports fan angst—hoping for greatness, dreading the collapse. Amidst this, Stugotz’s Weekend Observations delivers the zany and the mundane of the sports universe, and the crew brings plenty of comic relief about pro wrestling, nostalgia, and ticket reseller angst. It’s a showcase of why the Le Batard Show stands out: deeply knowledgeable, unguardedly emotional, and always ready to hit the punchline.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

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[Tony]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Mike]

The University of Miami can beat you more ways than any team in college football. They are the best team in college football is all. You can't play with them. They can beat you with big plays now. They can beat you with defense. They're not going to do all of the dumb things. They are the balanced thing that doesn't exist in a sport that's gone true. Parody.

[Dan Le Batard]

Miami looks like they can beat anyone in the nation.

[Mike]

It's the most complete one I've seen since the 2001 one. Just complete more ways to beat you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Miami's got to stay healthy. But the neutral field this year in the national title game is in Miami.

[Mike]

It's fixed. It's like, have no question that when Castellanos is being pressured 31 times and Beck is being pressured six, it's fixed.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was brought here to win national championships. You know who said that? Mario Cristobal. You know who says that privately? Mario Cristobal. So when the standard's a national championship.

[Stugats]

You can't be going around saying five and, oh, everything's fixed.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you can say the major problems facing this program are fixed.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

It's not just, hey, finish in the.

[Stugats]

Top four and you have to win one game and you're in the championship anymore.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think we're aware of what the standard is.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Looks like they can beat anyone in the nation.

[Another guest or co-host]

I can say nothing bad about this team right now.

[Mike]

This was not Rick's football team that got into the top five. I doubted that team all season long. I never thought that team had the best players.

[Tony]

What is this that you guys are talking about?

[Another guest or co-host]

Louis Vuilla and Louisville?

[Dan Le Batard]

This.

[Tony]

And they're not gonna beat the K.

[Another guest or co-host]

The K's are gonna beat the shit.

[Tony]

Out of this team today. I'm telling you that right now.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

We spent seven minutes on this show yesterday talking about Mario Cristobal's confidence in the way that he's walk. I mean, are you.

[Stugats]

Did you not hear him interviewed?

[Mike]

The way that he is presently carrying himself in interviews is as a man who is really confident in the players that he has.

[Tony]

He was really kind to me. He gave me a lot of time over the weekend as well for espn and he obviously it has a lot to do with the current state of the program. I mean, he was. He was really nice and really forthcoming with me.

[Another guest or co-host]

Mario is so confident in his team right now, he can't even convey publicly what he thinks of his team. It's one of those situations where he has to be careful what he says publicly because I just think he's supremely confident.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think Mario Cristobal has shown over the last three years, if there's a problem, he'll solve it. Check out the hook while his DJ revolves it. Like Mario Cristobal isn't going to shut you the hell up until he wins.

[Mike]

That is correct.

[Stugats]

That is correct.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's cool. But I would say that yesterday's college football talk as it pertains to the Miami Hurricane. So it's just, you know, an embarrassment. But I don't go to you or Jeremy for ball. That's not what I do.

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't. You embarrass yourself. Well, it was terrible.

[Mike]

Yes, but you're.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I got reached out to by a dozen people.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

I was told last week that Carson Beck is better than Cam Ward potentially. And I have not seen anything like that.

[Another guest or co-host]

I don't think anybody told me.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

I went back and listen to the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really want to get me excited. Talk about this quarterback we got right now thrilled. It better fall camp.

[Mike]

All right, so wait a minute. So you're doing Carson Beck. You are now going to do.

[Tony]

I just said better fall camp than Cam.

[Mike]

Okay, wait a minute.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, hold on. Oh, wait. This is where the guy that didn't go to fall camp either here tells me that I'm wrong. Maybe we should apply the context of it raining down here for a month straight when we have conversations about Carson Beck. I also think contextually there's been a monsoon at Hard Rock Stadium for a month straight. And that also plays into these rivalry games that are also naturally tighter. I think he's going to really reshape the opinion of him a little bit. Again, it's not going to look like Cam Ward and it can't for Miami to actually win big time football it can't look like that.

[Mike]

The one that makes me know that Miami is good is the win over South Florida, because I know South Florida is good. If I put it in an Auburn uniform, you guys would be saying. If I put it in an Alabama uniform, you guys would be saying, that's a top 10 team.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think, overall, it was just a great weekend for the University of Miami. Shout out to that athletics department. Joe Echeverria, the president. Kim Gorby, the Sid.

[Stugats]

I think it's clear whose fault this all is. It's Dan's fault. Of all the sounds, Dan is the most egregious by far. Oh, my God.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

As I was going through that, it's fixed.

[Stugats]

Mike. Mike, you ought to be upset with Dan first and foremost. Come on, man.

[Tony]

Why did it matter? Why did it matter that Mario Criswell was nice to me?

[Another guest or co-host]

No, it was important context.

[Stugats]

They threw you under the bus.

[Dan Le Batard]

You could do this any year over the last 20 years. But I think what's different this year is that's just our show. If you sampled the entire world of college football, they had everybody fooled this year, and it's a. It's a huge shame. I. I don't think we're going to get to have the conversations that we had last year about resume and whatnot, because I think they're probably going to lose another game. I think that's the big takeaway. Here is the teams. You have a bigger issue now, which is last three years, there's a pattern. Teams lock into your tendencies. You got nothing for them, and your team kind of goes into a hole. That can't be happening four years. Like, it's easy year one and year two to blame it on the Manny guys, the Manny recruits. Manny seems to be doing just fine at Duke. SMU has taken a lot of former Manny guys and done a lot of winning in this conference. Hell, they barely do any losing. They've lost one game.

[Tony]

So I keep seeing, like, the. The comparison to Manny Diaz's ACC record versus Mario Criswold's ACC record. Why. Why do I give a shit about that? Manny Diaz was the coach here. He was awful. Why do I care what Manny. Like, Manny Diaz had an opportunity here. He was terrible. So why do I care about his record?

[Dan Le Batard]

Manny Diaz wasn't the answer. Mario Crucible has elevated the floor. Now. Your problem is you just can't get over the hump. You can't. You can't get to Charlotte. Like before, we were talking about 7 win football teams, 6 win football teams like it, it's definitely changed. But the frustrating part is the intangible stuff and their inability to respond to it. It's going to be a huge week for them. I know they're favored by 28 and a half against Syracuse. That is a program that's had a really difficult year following the injury to Angeli. Can this team rattle off four in a row to give you a food for thought? Last year they were told, hey, no playoffs for you because you have zero ranked wins and your defense is trash. This year, potentially, depending on what happens with Pittsburgh, they could have four ranked wins and the defense, that's very good, and a signature win over potentially one to two playoff teams, depending on what happens in the aac. So I do like their hand. For me, the biggest issue is I don't think this team can run the table in November. If they do, I think a month from now, we'd feel pretty strongly that they have one of the stronger cases when it comes to the cfp. But do they get past NC State? I mean, you know, like, they, they play teams well.

[Another guest or co-host]

Mike, when you talk about, you know, Crystal being a floor raiser and that he just can't get over the hump. How many coaches are there in college football that are. That coach that can get you over the hump, it feels like there's less than a handful of them.

[Tony]

It's tough.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a tough sport. It's like baseball, only you multiply the teams by three. Everyone's got. There's one team that gets to win. Look at the Jim Harbaugh experience in Michigan year after year. Couldn't get over the hump. Couldn't get over the hump. Gets lucky with a missed field goal. That was right.

[Stugats]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, what were they saying about Ryan Day last year?

[Tony]

When he loses, they don't win the national championship.

[Dan Le Batard]

Probably. Probably gone. Maybe a mutual parting of ways. Mario Cristobal has to win that game. He did so in Oregon. He won the. He won a PAC 12 championship and he won a Rose Bowl. But there's rightfully a narrative that follows him. The only way to correct that narrative is to win. And for whatever reason, a mental thing happens where this team just kind of folds under pressure once teams lock into what they're doing. And so let me, let me start at the top a little bit.

[Tony]

Let me ask you something here in regards to Notre Dame. So Notre Dame right Now is ranked 10th, all right? If Notre Dame keeps winning and they win their final 10 games of the season, they're Going to be a playoff team and then that winds up making Miami look good, that, hey, best win on their resume is that one. But so you could say, hey, it's a good thing for Miami if they went out there, but is it a good thing for Miami if they went out there because they're going to be one of those top 11 spots when maybe you kind of need Notre Dame to lose to open up one of those top 11 spots. And I say top 11 because you know, the ACC winner is not going to be ranked in the top 12. So they're going to wind up taking one of those spots, essentially. And you know what, depending on what happens with BYU and the Big 12 winner may not be in the top 12. So they may take one of those spots.

[Dan Le Batard]

Also, huge game between BYU and Texas Tech. I'd like to entertain all these conversations. I think the best thing that that can happen for Miami in terms of that conversation is to have Notre Dame keep winning.

[Tony]

Really?

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Because the head to head matchup has to matter. It has to matter. I don't care that it happened first week of the season they played. You saw which team was better when they played. But Miami's got to keep winning.

[Stugats]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

And right now I think the biggest problem is no one really thinks Miami can go 4 and oh in the next month. No one. No one. Because of how they lost SMU, because of how they met adversity. So if that's why it's a bigger conversation than even the cfp, I don't care if you ford out a couple of wins here or there. I got to see a change in approach. I got to see a team respond. I got to see guys that have been committing penalties every game suffer the consequences. I gotta see them turn it around. It's a ridiculous conversation to be having. I would feel good about it down the line, but beat Syracuse, this team can quit. Beat NC State. Do we have faith that they can? I don't.

[Stugats]

This is going to make such a great part of the montage when they win the national championship this year.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's going to be hilarious in January 19th.

[Another guest or co-host]

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[Tony]

Don LeBatard and then Matt Stafford threw.

[Another guest or co-host]

Him 25 and 2. Oh, there's a brand new kid in town out of BYU Stugats. They call him Puka. His quarterback is not named Tua. Yeah, he is Puka.

[Tony]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Mike]

Foreign.

[Another guest or co-host]

Being something big later On. I know there's a couple teams that have. What if there's. Is there a possibility for Louisville and SMU to both meet in the ACC championship game if things up top get a little screwy and then Miami has a loss to one of the ACC champion or the runner up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Again, stupid conversations.

[Tony]

Screwed.

[Dan Le Batard]

They gotta play. Louisville just had a big time injury to Brown. You gotta be. It starts with beating Syracuse and then we can have those conversations down the line. But right now it's stupid talk.

[Tony]

Stupid talk, stupid talk.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

There are three ACC teams ahead of both Louisville and smu.

[Another guest or co-host]

Yeah, but things can happen.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Yeah, things can get screwy. I just wonder when we start having a conversation because you know the big time programs, when coaches are constantly underachieving start to have buyout talk and I just wonder.

[Stugats]

It's so obvious when you're trolling like.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

The first word you say.

[Stugats]

Give me the Weekend Observations intro.

[Tony]

It is time for. I mean, to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean.

[Stugats]

Weekend Observations is presented by Miller Light Zaz. He was labeled a bust. Caught mono as a rookie. He had a nice little stint in Minnesota. But Last night, after four TDs in the first half, Sam Darnold, make no mistake, has entered the MVP conversation bar and ordered bottle service.

[Another guest or co-host]

You have an NFL one?

[Stugats]

Of course. Come on man, we franchising.

[Another guest or co-host]

I thought you franchise.

[Stugats]

You know how this works, guys. In the. In the MVP conversation bar. That means he's in the MVP conversation. But if he's really doing stuff like. Oh, not just in the conversation like dominant conversation, he's got bottle service.

[Tony]

They murdered Washington last night.

[Stugats]

Oh yeah. Big day for kickers. Ryan Fitzgerald lifted the Panthers over the packers with a game winner. Parker Romo missed an extra point, dropping the Falcons to the Patriots. Will Lutz squeaked the Broncos past the Texans with a 34 yarder. And Cam Little set a record with a 68 yard field goal. Only the only thing bigger than the day for kickers is the balls on Liam Cohen after Cam Little missed three kicks in the last two games, including a point after a little. Pat Cohen trusted Little to kick a 68 yarder. You know what that is? Balls. Guy can't even get the extra point. You're going to say, oh yeah, 68 yards. You got that one.

[Tony]

Made a 68 yarder yesterday.

[Stugats]

Yeah. New record.

[Another guest or co-host]

I thought you saw everything.

[Tony]

I. I did see everything. They got it. They gotta shorten these goal posts. I'm sorry, man, we can't have 68 yard field, by the way.

[Another guest or co-host]

You saw Landman? What you know about Landman?

[Tony]

Yo. Okay, here's the thing. Do you think that I am against being able to punch the ball out?

[Another guest or co-host]

I do.

[Tony]

No, I'm not against that at all.

[Stugats]

Sounds like you are.

[Tony]

What I am against is if you miss, you can't just go around punching guys.

[Stugats]

Thought it was a contact sport.

[Another guest or co-host]

Lamb and O miss.

[Stugats]

Steve Spagnolo needs to learn how to cover his mouth with the play call sheet. Every time they showed him, he's covering it like this. All right, guys, 25. I'm like, no, you've got to do it up here. Up here, we all can read all the words that you're saying out your mouth. What does a bay leaf taste like? Would I be able to taste its absence? I watch a lot of these Instagram cooking videos and they put a bay leaf in it and I'm like, just.

[Another guest or co-host]

One singular bay leaf taste.

[Stugats]

If it didn't have a bay leaf, would I be like, it's missing something? I like a bay leaf. Bay leaf.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a strong flavor.

[Stugats]

Is it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Stugats]

What does it taste like?

[Dan Le Batard]

Tea.

[Stugats]

Okay. I've never tasted tea in my food. Stephen A. Smith on the firing of Dolphins GM Chris Greer. Quote, this is bs. That's the first fire.

[Tony]

Really?

[Stugats]

That's what we're doing. It was about Tua. It was about Mike McDaniel. And the brother gets fired first. Stephen A. Smith, the stugach is strong in you. Cause the brother, the other brother didn't get fired. So Tucker Kraft expected to miss time with a knee injury. I guess you could say the packers production will have to continue without craft services. It's a showbiz joke, kids. Spurs finally lost the game, courtesy of Saturday night in Old Town Scottsdale. Sunday brunch scene ain't bad either. If it's one thing Halloween taught me is that a lot of people don't like being in on a joke sometimes. The beauty of a joke is not in making the whole room laugh. Rather, it's in making a few people laugh and have the rest of the room wondering what's so damn funny.

[Another guest or co-host]

Eloquently put by you, by the way.

[Stugats]

Thank you.

[Another guest or co-host]

I saw you put that on Twitter.

[Stugats]

I was like, you know what this is gonna make it to Weekend Observations.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, few people are as entertaining on mute as Michael Irvin.

[Stugats]

Oh, yeah, he's great. Matter of fact, everyone mute. First take. Watch it while you listen to me. Pablo Torre played spades with Maury Povich and Nick Cannon. I never guessed Pablo would know how to play spades.

[Tony]

Maury Povich.

[Stugats]

Yeah. I never get Maury voters to play spades either. But if you had to ask me, Maury or Pablo, which one knows how to play spades? I'm picking Maury.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Top five things I never guess Pablo could do. Oli, play spades. Number five, not say something without sounding like he's fighting back laughter. Number four, not have other journalists mad about his reporting, but also want to be on his show. Number three, not dress like Mr. Rogers. He actually has a closet where he has weird.

[Another guest or co-host]

Like, every time I see him, he's in a cardigan.

[Stugats]

I'm like, dude, he's got a closet in the New York studio. Just cardigans. He comes in and he changes into it like he's Mr. Rogers. Number two, not start a conversation tangent without having the appropriate receipts to back up what he's talking about. Folks, he ain't just talking. There's a reason why he says it's things he says. And the number one thing I never could guess Pablo could do. Withhold the name of his alma mater.

[Another guest or co-host]

How's Pablo's jumper?

[Stugats]

I don't know.

[Another guest or co-host]

Got a good jumper. Decent jumper.

[Stugats]

Never played with Papa.

[Another guest or co-host]

We need to see Pablo's jumper.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Let's find out.

[Stugats]

Can't be great. Sh is starting to crack. Guys see this first during the post game conversation. He's nodding his head vigorously during the question before the translation has happened. They're like, hey, talk about the job that someone. And he's like, oh, yeah. I'm like, wait a second. Then as he's going out, he says, thank you, guys. So smooth. I thought Billy Dee Williams did the voiceover. All right, thanks, guys. I was like, what? This guy doesn't speak English.

[Tony]

Definitely speaks English. He's cracking better than me.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

100%.

[Stugats]

He's cracking. He can't keep. He can't keep this up.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

I mean, it's funny with Shohei versus other players, like, of Latin origin, because with them, we never really seem to care if they keep a translator the entire time. But with Shohei, we're mad that he speaks English.

[Stugats]

I'm gonna tell you why. Because when the Latin players speak English, it sounds like, oh, yeah, your English isn't that strong. This guy Zach says, sounds better than a broadcaster. All right, thanks, guys. I'm like, what?

[Dan Le Batard]

Aight.

[Stugats]

When did he learn? Aight.

[Another guest or co-host]

There's a reason why there's certain somebody in prison.

[Stugats]

TK Hernandez should have to give up his World Series share to Andy Pajes and name his next two children Andy and Pajes. Got that straight from the pages. Missed connection. You're the waitress with the piercing blue eyes. I was the guy who wrote don't smoke in bed under the tip at one point. Hornets vs. Jazz had nine white players on the court.

[Another guest or co-host]

Whoa.

[Stugats]

Or as complicated Joe Zagaki might say. A great start.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me tell you about conuple Tua.

[Stugats]

Blame crowd noise for the number of penalties on offense. Saying quote with the Ravens fans, it maybe got a little muffled with Mike cadence and the crowd noise. And Sarah Michelle Geller was a book report with raw chicken. You're gonna kill somebody. Unquote. Flacco. 470 yards, 4 TDs, 2 ints and a sport sprained throwing shoulder. Gutsy. No one should be rooting more for LeBron to sit than Austin Reaves. He's making money. Tell the truth. You all thought Mahomes was gonna do it again after the Bills missed a field goal after the game, Mahomes said, you can only learn from so many losses. You gotta learn from it fast. That's a great quote.

[Tony]

Bills always win the regular season games against them.

[Stugats]

Or as TUA would say, you can only learn from so many fresh. It's our turn. Gator boots with the pumped up kicks. You better run, Forrest.

[Dan Le Batard]

Run.

[Stugats]

French toast, please. End quote. It's a CTE joke, guys. Diana Rossini telling us Davis Mills was not on the block. Followed by CJ Stroud, concussion forcing Davis Mills into the game. Diana Rossini. I've got my third eye open. Football Illuminati coming soon.

[Dan Le Batard]

We all had the same reaction when she said, they're. They're not answering those calls for Davis Mills.

[Tony]

We're like, really?

[Dan Le Batard]

And then for Davis Mills.

[Stugats]

And then that next game, he's out.

[Dan Le Batard]

There and you are still asking.

[Tony]

Really?

[Dan Le Batard]

We're not answering calls for him.

[Stugats]

Cinefobe Last week, Rambo First Blood Part 2, we learned that Rambo had 59 confirmed kills in the Vietnam War. Yet during the course of the movie, which takes place over the course of two days in 1985, Rambo has 74 kills, meaning in two days, he's killed more than an entire war. Moral of the story. Work on your craft, kids. It's never too late to improve.

[Tony]

Shall I watch Rambo?

[Stugats]

I think you should.

[Tony]

I never seen it.

[Stugats]

I think you'd love it.

[Dan Le Batard]

First Blood.

[Stugats]

And also First Blood Part two. Rambo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that's not even more.

[Stugats]

And then Rambo three, which, by the way, that's my favorite Favorite famous Rambo tagline. What you choose to call hell, he calls home. Speaking of hell, Art Briles. Those are the weekend observations. An applause for that Rambo 3, man.

[Tony]

Yeah, good job, Don LeBatard.

[Dan Le Batard]

I went in the margins. I'm like, I'm like.

[Another guest or co-host]

You're moneyball of sex.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm basically Scott Hatter.

[Stugats]

Stugats lot of walks, but I'm on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Base when it comes to sex. Other, other dudes, they can be Giambi.

[Another guest or co-host]

You know your role, you play.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know my role.

[Tony]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Stugats]

You know what Rambo3 is about? He goes to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets.

[Tony]

Who wins?

[Stugats]

Oh, come on, who wins? Rambo always wins.

[Dan Le Batard]

The audience.

[Stugats]

Oh, yeah, we owe you.

[Tony]

How many Rambos are there?

[Stugats]

Well, there were the original three and then they took a long hiatus and then Stallone brought it back with Rambo. Just the self titled Rambo and then Rambo Last Blood. And if you remember, Stu Guts made a big deal about.

[Dan Le Batard]

Was that a border town one?

[Stugats]

Yes, that one is, as has been relayed to me, very problematic.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, the one before the border one, he rips out a trachea, right?

[Stugats]

Yeah, Yep.

[Dan Le Batard]

Disembowel somebody. Cut somebody in half with a machine gun, a turret gun.

[Stugats]

He can kill people in a lot of different ways, folks.

[Tony]

Now why is one of them called Rambo Last Blood?

[Stugats]

That's the last one that was, that happened. But Stugas famously doubted that it would be in fact the Last Blood. Because Stallone can't help himself. He's gonna make another Rambo movie one way or another.

[Tony]

Yeah, I gotta doubt that too, player.

[Stugats]

Yeah. You never seen Rambo? You strike me as a Rambo kind of guy.

[Tony]

No, I'm not saying I wouldn't like it. I never seen it.

[Stugats]

You give off Rambo. What were you doing in that 80s?

[Tony]

Just living my life, man.

[Stugats]

Oh, not watching movies.

[Tony]

Watching a lot of wrestling in the 80s.

[Another guest or co-host]

I could tell it's a golden age.

[Dan Le Batard]

Randy Savage Hogan.

[Stugats]

I saw, I saw. Somehow my algorithm, I think I blame Mike. My algorithm sometimes will send me wrestling videos. Oh yeah, it's good algorithm, but it's like, oh, the time when Booker T. And the Rock faced off for the first time.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

And I, I was, I, I won't lie, I was intrigued. I was like, okay, where does it go from here? Yeah, the. What is your favorite wrestling memory as a kid? Not like as a grown up like.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pre 18 year old ZAZ Cody Rhodes winning the championship.

[Tony]

I was a lot older than 18. All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Two years ago. It's a joke. It's a CTE joke.

[Tony]

Oh, my favorite. Probably. Probably Hulk Hogan. Andre Giant. Yeah, I was six years old. WrestleMania 3, that's probably my favorite.

[Stugats]

What happened?

[Tony]

Andre Wonder. No, Hogan won. He body slammed.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's your favorite? O.C.

[Stugats]

Hold on.

[Dan Le Batard]

What happened there?

[Stugats]

It's contagious, man. How do you do this? With my favorite memories. Oh, yeah? Who won? I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

I popped. When Sting got over the hump, was that Great American Bash beat Ric Flair. He had red, white and blue surfer. Sting. That was a WCW guy.

[Tony]

I'm in a little bit of a pickle here.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was my movie theater sells pickles.

[Tony]

Oh, yeah? How much, man?

[Dan Le Batard]

$2.

[Stugats]

Hell of a deal.

[Tony]

So I'm trying, Not trying. I'm going to. I'm going to go to Cena's last match next month.

[Stugats]

Is it really his last match or is this the last blood?

[Tony]

No, it's his last match. Company Saturday night event in D.C. next month. Mike, have you seen these ticket prices?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, they're insane.

[Tony]

Holy crap. I don't know what I'm going to do. Like, I've already got my flight booked. I don't think it's a show yet.

[Stugats]

Is it face or is it the resell? Both.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because what weekend is it?

[Tony]

December 13th.

[Stugats]

I've discovered this. This sound real naive of me, but I've discovered that there's like a scam happening.

[Tony]

What's that?

[Stugats]

Where the face value tickets are showing as sold out because all the bots ate them up. But coders can go in and go into the face value site and get them still at face value by just putting in some code. Oh, which means all of this is massively artificial in terms of the.

[Tony]

It feels like a racket, right?

[Stugats]

Like, this is. That's what's happening here. You're all getting scammed on these resales because it's not like, yeah, this one scalper got him and now he. No, it's all like an illusion designed to drum up business, basically and make the tickets more desirable.

[Tony]

I mean, it's going to be one of the hottest tickets ever for WWE for an arena show. Cheapest lower level seat. You want to guess right now? Cheapest lower level seat.

[Stugats]

Lower level seat.

[Tony]

It's in D.C. where the captain.

[Stugats]

It's in Washington DC.

[Tony]

Cena's last match.

[Stugats]

It's going to be John Cena's last match. You're saying it's not a last blood situation? This is really going to be his last blood?

[Tony]

No, definitely his last match.

[Stugats]

Is he going to wear jorts?

[Tony]

Probably, yes.

[Stugats]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think he's going to win?

[Tony]

I have no idea. I'm going to go$700.500.500 is the cheapest lower level seat. And it's like at the very top of the lower level, you know, $500.

[Stugats]

Is there equivalent of the behind the basket seat in wrestling or is it all just a ring? Right.

[Tony]

No, there's not really an equivalent to that.

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Stugats]

You know what I discovered? I went to a boxing match a couple years ago, shout out to George Sedano, who hooked it up. And it was not ringside, but it was like two rows of a rings. It was really good seats. And what I discovered is when you're that close, the. What are they called? The ropes.

[Another guest or co-host]

The ropes. Yeah, Literally, the ropes.

[Tony]

You're having trouble thinking about what those are called.

[Stugats]

Yeah, cde. The oc the fun kind of, um, it obscures. I'm watching the. I'm watching the fight like. Like this the whole time because the ropes turned the goddamn way. This is terrible. You know what they should do?

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Clear glass.

[Tony]

No, they should have no ropes.

[Stugats]

No, you can keep the ropes. They should put the whole ring in a pit. And so now we're looking down and we all have kind of a view of it and almost like a Roman Colosseum. We're yelling and throwing shit. Look at that.

[Another guest or co-host]

That's.

[Tony]

Go sit in the upper level.

[Stugats]

No, no, no, no. It does.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can get that experience.

[Stugats]

No, no, no, no.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

That's cheap.

[Stugats]

I want to be ringside too. I want to hear and taste and smell all the sights and sounds.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Taste.

[Stugats]

Yeah. You know, sometimes they hit them in it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're going to have to be front row for that to work, though.

[Stugats]

What's up?

[Dan Le Batard]

You have to be front row for that.

[Stugats]

I know, but they're in a little pit, so I'm kind of looking over on them.

[Dan Le Batard]

They actually do have mixed martial arts that.

[Stugats]

In a pit.

[Dan Le Batard]

That happen in a pit. Wow.

[Another guest or co-host]

They also have ones that don't have cages, too.

[Stugats]

No cages.

[Another guest or co-host]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're all.

[Stugats]

They can just run around.

[Another guest or co-host]

I don't like that within a reason.

[Dan Le Batard]

Because I'm gonna be able to run around the entire arena. I just feel like you gotta catch them.

[Stugats]

Well, if that's the case, then it's not who's the best fighter now? Who's the best avoider?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's strategy, though. That's a real life application.

[Stugats]

I feel like I'd be a pretty good fighter in those Conditions.

[Dan Le Batard]

You gotta run away.

[Stugats]

I'm shifty.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mm.

[Stugats]

I can. I always have this. You ever watch movies and they're like, they're chasing people and they're going through the staircase or whatever and I'm like, dog, just get off on the floor and then go back upstairs. Everyone thinks you're going down in the same direction. Just double back.

[Dan Le Batard]

You haven't seen the Mike Myers challenge though.

[Stugats]

No. What's the Mike Myers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where like someone's walking to you.

[Tony]

Oh, Michael Myers.

[Stugats]

Yeah. I thought.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, yeah, baby said.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

I thought you meant the former left handed reliever for the Yankees.

[Dan Le Batard]

So who.

[Tony]

Back to the original point here. Who is setting me up with tickets for John Cena's final match? That's. That's the.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Maybe Sedano.

[Stugats]

I'm going to tell you what, man. I used to. I used to be repped by the same agency as John Cena. I got his. His agent's number. I could put in a call.

[Dan Le Batard]

A lot of those tickets are. But it's so expensive.

[Stugats]

It's gonna cost you.

[Dan Le Batard]

They actually reserve quite a bit of seats for those events.

[Tony]

Go on.

[Dan Le Batard]

Where they put in VIPs. So we need to elevate your profile, be one of those VIPs. But this one's gonna be a really difficult ticket because it's not a stadium show.

[Tony]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

And the president's probably gonna be there.

[Tony]

That's what I hear.

[Stugats]

Is he?

[Tony]

Yeah, apparently says he wouldn't miss it.

[Stugats]

What?

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

I feel like there's a lot of shit going on in the world that it kind of gotta prioritize a little bit over.

[Another guest or co-host]

I take off a night.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's at a Gatsby party two nights ago.

[Stugats]

He's good. Really?

[Dan Le Batard]

He's chilling.

[Stugats]

Does he dress, does he dress up?

[Dan Le Batard]

Who?

[Stugats]

Trump.

[Dan Le Batard]

He dresses as Trump. It was a Gatsby theme party around him.

[Stugats]

Oh, so he's. Oh, he's in a boat.

[Another guest or co-host]

Everybody goes in character. He goes in character.

[Stugats]

He does.

[Dan Le Batard]

Trump.

[Stugats]

This is Donald Trump. If I was in the gate, Gatsby would be. You guys look great here. Wow, look at you. They would have called it the Greater Gatsby.

[Dan Le Batard]

The best Gatsby.

[Stugats]

The best Gatsby they ever had.

[Dan Le Batard]

The greatest Gatsby.

[Stugats]

You know, they had it out in Long Island. I said it's a little too far. I don't like it. I don't like it. We'll have it at Trump Tower.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's be careful. He's speaking across the.

[Stugats]

The inhabitant. Oh, yeah. It's tomorrow, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's tomorrow.

[Stugats]

How would we gonna.

[Tony]

Wednesday?

[Stugats]

It's Wednesday or Wednesday. What are you guys gonna do? Are you guys going to try to commute through this?

[Dan Le Batard]

I buy two tickets, probably get arrested.

[Tony]

I'll be front row for the first time ever. I'm taking the train here tomorrow to avoid that traffic.

[Stugats]

You're going to Bright Line it?

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Oh, wow.

[Tony]

Yeah. First time.

[Stugats]

Are you going to go premium?

[Tony]

I thought about it.

[Stugats]

No, it's unnecessary.

[Tony]

It's unnecessary because it's.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

If you're going somewhere, like on a.

[Stugats]

Weekend, you can have free drinks on there. Like the only. What is the benefit of that premium?

[Mike's colleague or guest]

You get a free coffee, free breakfast.

[Tony]

It's like a 15 minute ride. It seems like a waste.

[Stugats]

I thought it was free booze, right? Yeah, but.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Yeah, but on the way.

[Tony]

I'm coming to work. Dog.

[Stugats]

Dog, you'd be working even better. Think about every idea you've ever had when you were drunk. Wasn't it so much better thought out?

[Dan Le Batard]

We should buy a bar.

[Stugats]

Absolutely.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm looking forward to Tony's top five from across the street in two days.

[Another guest or co-host]

Should I save it? I was gonna do it tomorrow. I'll do it Wednesday.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can feel the energy.

[Stugats]

Dog. Man, are you kidding me? I think Messi's gonna be there.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

We're gonna be able to get in here.

[Dan Le Batard]

The graphic's incredible because it looks like.

[Stugats]

Messi's at, like, the top of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Have you seen the graphic? It looks like Donald Trump's decided to run a 443.

[Stugats]

No way. No way do we have that picture. Can we throw that up somewhere?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll pull it up on my phone here.

[Stugats]

While we're pulling it up, we got to talk about what's happening with the Bengals.

[Tony]

Oh, my God.

[Stugats]

I've never seen this before. Talk about things that we never see.

[Tony]

So, you know. You know, like, they're always. There's always this undercurrent on some of these teams where either the defense is really great and the offense is holding them back. They can't score. The offense is really great and the defense is holding them back. And everybody just kind of like, supports each other, you know, you don't want to say the wrong thing. The Bengals, they appear to be doing the complete opposite here. Like, I. So the Bengals defense is apparently historically bad.

[Another guest or co-host]

All right, three historically bad teams on defense in a. In a year. Dolphins, Ravens, and Bengals.

[Tony]

Good point. So the. The Bengals had a big comeback against the Bears and the defense couldn't hold them in the end. And The Bears won 47 to 42. And it seems like the Bengals offensive players have had enough. So here's Chase Brown. All right. Chase Brown, Bengals running back. And he is straight up telling you, the defense sucks.

[Chase Brown (quoted player)]

We just got to play complimentary football. Like, we put the ball in the end zone and go up a point at the end. Finish the game. Like, just end it. Like, that's it. Like, that's. That's like, that's what we need to do. Just end the game. Like, make them. Make them get us the ball back. Let us go to 22 victory, and let's end the game. That's how. That's, like, that's how I feel. Any playmaker on this team, any. Any position, like, we're all willing to do whatever it takes to win. We just gotta finish. I think that's, like, what you go into this bye week thinking and kind of repeating to yourself is just finish, finish, finish these goddamn games. Please finish them.

[Tony]

When do you ever hear a player talk about the other side of the football like that? Here's what's.

[Stugats]

As. Surely he was the only one talking like that.

[Mike]

Nope.

[Stugats]

What?

[Tony]

Here's. And these are star players, especially this guy. Here's Jamar Chase, A leader or any of the leaders on the offense.

[Stugats]

Is it good to get on the defense or stay in your lane? I'm gonna stay in my lane. I don't want a defensive player coming, chew me out about what I'm doing.

[Tony]

And so apparently he's supportive.

[Stugats]

He said, I'm gonna stay in my lane.

[Tony]

Apparently, defensive players were laughing about the way the game ended. I think the offense and the defense, I think they're gonna fight each other.

[Stugats]

I think.

[Tony]

I think they're actually. I think they're gonna come up, like, put him in a pit. Yeah, that's right.

[Stugats]

Oh, no. Cage. So you gotta. You gotta catch them. Battle Royal, then it involves some of the football skills, right? Like how. How elusive are you?

[Dan Le Batard]

Brought me peace. Watching Al Golden's defense struggle like that. A little bit of decompression.

[Stugats]

Al golden is still alive and working, huh?

[Dan Le Batard]

He's young.

[Tony]

He's still alive. He was the D.C. bernardo Damon, the national championship.

[Dan Le Batard]

He has created it. Yeah.

[Stugats]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is he just in his 50s, right?

[Mike's colleague or guest]

56 years old, really?

[Stugats]

Still alive, Dog, that really scares me. It means me and Al golden aren't that far off in age. I don't like this. I like the day when all the coaches were, like 100 years old than me. I'm like, oh, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every coaching hire is, like, younger than you now.

[Stugats]

I know, man. It's crazy. How old is Mario?

[Dan Le Batard]

Mario's in his early 50s.

[Stugats]

Yeah. See, like, looks good. Brent Key. I think Brent Key and me went to Georgia Tech at the same time. I'm not sure. I can't confirm, but I'm pretty sure.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. He was there when Joey Hamilton.

[Stugats]

Oh, shit, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

99.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

Dan was freaking out last week because the Nationals manager that they hired is 33 years old. And someone reached out to me. Their president is 35. They don't have a GM. They have two assistant GMs. They're 31 and 33.

[Stugats]

They're going to up.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

That's crazy.

[Stugats]

There's no way you can have that many young people.

[Dan Le Batard]

They can mess up, but they'll have a job.

[Mike's colleague or guest]

That's true.

[Dan Le Batard]

They'll go. They'll build themselves back up.

[Stugats]

You old, you get out of a job, it's a wrap.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right.

[Stugats]

Unless you're Vic Fangio, somehow you still get jobs.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, he's just satisfied being a coordinator. He did the coach thing one time just to say he did it. But it's also better as a dc. I'm a press box guy.

[Stugats]

I'm telling you, Mango, it's a lot less stressful, a lot less. Because nobody's asking you questions. That's the thing. Everyone asking questions. When you head coach, you gotta answer a lot of questions. That's why you get $54 million to be Brian Kelly. Ain't got to ask no more questions. Just kick my legs up, ask me questions.

[Another guest or co-host]

For that money, I'll give you all the questions.

[Stugats]

There'll be no holding back, Tony. Speaking of no holding back. Pelicans.

[Another guest or co-host]

Let's talk about the Pelicans really quick.

[Stugats]

Let's talk about it.

[Another guest or co-host]

I think the NBA needs to do a bailout.

[Stugats]

I think contraction is the word you're looking for.

[Another guest or co-host]

We need something.

[Stugats]

Bailout means like, hey, I think this thing is salvageable. We're gonna just give you some stuff.

[Another guest or co-host]

I don't know. Right now, it looks like the worst situation in the NBA, right? Like, you trade away your first round pick to a team in the Hawks that basically gave you the rights to get a Derrick Queen, who's.

[Tony]

I mean, that trade is not that good.

[Another guest or co-host]

And also the trade for the Indiana pick, which now turns into a more interesting pick, too, because they're not good.

[Stugats]

Like, the Pacers did the deal, like.

[Another guest or co-host]

Right the day of the Finals, they're like, yeah, okay, we'll do. We'll do the trade. Okay, fine.

[Stugats]

So here's the thing. I tell people this all the time. Sometimes teams do a deal and then in retrospect, we're like, oh, that was a bad deal. Right? So, for instance, the Clippers trading for Paul George and obviously Shea Gill D's Alexander winning that deal.

[Tony]

Yeah, everyone thought it was a good.

[Stugats]

Deal at the time. Everyone was like, yeah, you do it. Cuz you got quiet. And now we look back, like, hindsight, 20 20, that's a bad deal. The Derrick Queen deal, on the day it happened, we're like, what?

[Another guest or co-host]

The minute, the minute it.

[Mike]

What are you doing?

[Tony]

Like, do you think Joe Dumars, did he try to get it protected? And they were just like, no, no, no. It has to be unprotected.

[Stugats]

This is what I've discovered. Most of the time when you're seeing a pick that goes unprotected and it's not like for a superstar player. Right.

[Tony]

It was to move up, what, three spots?

[Stugats]

Yeah, most of the time, they never ask. They never ask. You guys had your aunt last week, right? Your own Weitzman, who wrote the Hollywood Endings book about the Lakers. And he said the Pelicans had to explain to Rob what a swap is, what a pick swap is. Like, most of the time, if something happens, like what? It's not because they fought, they negotiated, finally you win. It's because nobody asked.

[Tony]

Like, you're telling me if Joe Dumar said, we'll trade you a first round pick, but it's top five protected, the Hawks would be like, nah, nah, nah. It has to be like, why did he ask?

[Stugats]

I'm telling you, he said, how much to move up to swap picks with you guys? It's going to cost you your first deal. I'm not reporting, I'm telling you.

[Tony]

Typically what happens, they're 07 and that's 07.

[Another guest or co-host]

They're getting beat by 30 every single day.

[Tony]

They're going to fire Willie Green any day now.

[Another guest or co-host]

He's a walking dead man. But like, is there a worse situation in the NBA than a star player who is in and out of the lineup, who's not that good right now? In Zion Williamson, you have nothing to look forward to. You have no first round picks. He got absolutely nothing.

[Tony]

You know what happened?

[Stugats]

You trade him for Kwai Leonard.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike]

Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads, like Cuervo. I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Mike]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugats]

Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

Cuervo.