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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Cuervo.
Dan Le Batard
So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo.
Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Chris Cote
Proximo.
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Cuervo.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugotz
We'll get to Lucy Rodin in a second. Again, if you were not listening earlier in the show, I think we kind of skipped past this a little bit. Local radio icon, host of The Zas Show 2.0.
Billy Gill
Zaslow Show 2.0.
Greg Cody
Jay Z with Greg Cody.
Stugotz
The Zaslo Show 2.0 with Greg Cody.
Billy Gill
No, the Zaslo Show.
Stugotz
Zaslo has said it's a disappointment if the Miami Hurricanes are not undefeated, which means that Mario Cristobal has already done his job. I don't think that Zaslo has said that on his own show. Just like that, where Mario Cristobal has already succeeded.
Chris Cote
I feel like, hasn't that been the case even the years they weren't back? You're still expected to beat these type of teams.
Dan Le Batard
Not undefeated, though.
Billy Gill
No, but I, I, I think, I think Dan's right in the way that he phrased that. Yeah, Mario Cristobal has done the job. If they are in a place where I'm confidently telling you it's a disappointment if they don't finish not going into the year. But at this point, if they don't finish the year undefeated, I'm not senior. It's always disappoint. They don't win the national championship, get to the playoffs, you're in the playoffs. Hey, hang with him. Let's see what happens. But yeah, I think you're right in the way.
Stugotz
And the thing that he is saying there that I don't think should just be skipped over is, I mean, guys, this is pretty hard, right? You start with, we were excited with Billy Gill's FIU team that now suddenly it's top moment before last night of the season being down only 10. Nothing in Penn State means nothing because that'll get you fired three games how dare you, sir.
Greg Cody
They won the Shula Bowl.
Dan Le Batard
In retrospect, though, game at Happy Valley.
Stugotz
If I use strength of schedule diminished by what has happened to James Franklin the last three years. Zaslo is telling you that after winning the State of Florida, now Zaslo's. He's going to be in South Bend this weekend. Zazlow's a. Zazzle is not just gas bagging. He's watching all these teams and he has opinions on how they look. And what he's telling you is the way Miami looks, size and speed on defense, violence on defense, discipline, offense that can beat you multiple ways. You want a 16? Play dry at the start of the third quarter. Notre Dame, how about one of those, oh, big plays? Fsu. Okay. They'll beat you that way. In a diluted college football. Zazzle is telling you he expects the Hurricanes to go undefeated. That means Mario Cristobal has improved every year that he's been in charge.
Billy Gill
There's only one other team doing it the way the Canes are doing it this season. It's Ohio State. That's it. These are the only two teams that. That you could look at. The Texas.
Stugotz
I'd say Texas Tech.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, we'll see. But interesting test. Levitt's going to be playing for Arizona State. At Arizona State will be an interesting.
Chris Cote
Levitz is right here.
Stugotz
Lucy's going to join us in a moment. Do you guys have. Do you guys have any opinions about the fact that I think Zaslo making an official has raised the expectations to a place that I have not heard anybody in Miami say that Mario Cristobal has already succeeded? I haven't heard it from anybody.
Dan Le Batard
I think we figured it out together. We talked it out.
Billy Gill
Yeah. Like any of these games. Okay. Louisville, Stanford, smu, Syracuse, NC State, Virginia Tech, Pitt. If the Canes lose any of those games, wouldn't your reaction be right after the game ends? Wow, that was really disappointing.
Mike Ryan
Sure.
Billy Gill
Then, then here we are. It would be really disappointing if they don't go undefeated.
Mike Ryan
I don't think for me, there's not a huge difference between 12, 0 and 11 and 1. If anything, this is a season where one loss, maybe even two losses get you in the playoffs. I think, um, one loss.
Billy Gill
So you won the AC Championship, then.
Mike Ryan
You have to win the ACC Championship. For me, um, has to win the ACC championship and get in the playoffs and at least win one game in the playoffs to call this a success. That's my. That's my parameter.
Billy Gill
I mean, it would be disappointing if they, like if they had a buy, okay. And they're. They lose in the quarterfinal at one of the bowl games because, remember, they wouldn't have a home game there, I guess that would be disappointing. But if you win the ACC championship and you make the playoffs for the very first time ever as a school, I'm not going to sit here and say it was disappointing.
Mike Ryan
I think it is. I think when the playoffs expanded from four teams to 12 and starting off this season the way they have, and being number two, if you don't get in and win a playoff game, you look back and say, we underachieved.
Billy Gill
I mean, you're going to, you're going to play another top 10 team in the quarterfinal. You lose a neutral site bowl game to a top 10 team, I, yeah, I can't sit here and say that that's disappointing then.
Stugotz
All right, so Lucy's going to join us now. She's bouncing around all over the country following all sorts of college football teams, but with a specific bias. Too many Iowa ones, I would say find her at too many Iowa games. I feel she's drifting off the expense account by just going home and partying and just enjoying her time in Iowa because she wants to spend time in Iowa. It's not the epicenter of the college football universe. I don't understand why you're there so often, but Penn State being around Iowa is fun this week because James Franklin is fired. I was curious your thoughts on, I believe, a whole new standard of how we're measuring college football coaches now.
Lucy Rodin
Okay, first, let me just say when we plan off roading, we plan it months and months and months in advance. And sometimes sponsors have say in where we go, sometimes they don't. Sometimes things just work out in certain ways that we are going to Iowa, Penn State, uh, that was. Whoops. But I think it's fun to be at James Franklin's first not game there. Um, so yes, we are going back to Iowa and I do think you're right. We do spend too much time there. Rose would definitely agree. But when it comes to James Franklin and sort of this, you know, decision to fire him, which is objectively crazy, like, I totally understand the decision to fire him. This was probably something they've wanted to do for a long time, just given sort of the, the kind of cloud over Penn State football with can't win this big game. But with the context of three weeks ago, they were two overtimes away from, you know, beating Oregon being this, this top five team to now. Okay, you don't Have a head coach. I think it just shows how intense things are in college football. And what I think this is really interesting outside of the Penn State scope is if you're Luke Fickle at Wisconsin, okay, this is just going to move a lot faster. If you're Hugh Freeze at Auburn, this is going to move a lot faster. Because if Penn State was willing to take that $56 million buyout, which is closer to 50, whatever, and be like, you know what, we're done. We to spend it now, I think that's going to put a lot more pressure on other schools to do it, which is interesting because we're in a year where I don't know if we've ever seen this many coaches fired at this point in the season. Just week seven and so many power. Four jobs are open. Several group of five jobs are open. Like, I just think that that the. The standard for like, giving a little grace is pretty much gone. Even though I do think, like, Luke Fickle should be gone. Hugh Freeze should be gone. Billy Napier should be gone.
Billy Gill
Why is it crazy that they fired him?
Lucy Rodin
Well, I think just like sort of the context of, okay, three weeks ago, you were a top five team. I think the timing is what is crazy about it. And also, like, I like to make a lot of fun of James Franklin. You guys know this. It's funny that he can't win the big game. We know that. However, when you're looking at James Franklin objectively, from a college football standpoint, who is better that Penn State is going to get? That is what I think is so crazy is, like, I would assume they have to have somebody in mind to be willing to make that giant cut, to pay that giant check because, like, he. He's winning 10 games every year. Obviously, things change with UCLA and Northwestern and whatnot, but, like, I don't know who they get that's better than that because I don't think Kurt Signetti is leaving Indiana for that job.
Billy Gill
Yeah, I think you're right. Obviously, just a few weeks ago they were ranked number two. I think that's even more reason why you fire him. A few weeks ago they were ranked number two, and then they lost to Ohio State, UCLA and Northwestern.
Lucy Rodin
Yeah, I just. I think it's the two weeks is such a long time to. Or such a short time. Excuse me. To, like, make a decision that brash. Where. Okay, so two weeks ago, you had no idea that James. None of us would have ever assumed James Franklin would not have a job two weeks from now. So you make that Giant. You make that Giant decision. I understand the decision. You have to have somebody else in place. If you're willing to spend $50 million to get rid of James Franklin, he wins 10 games a season, you have to have somebody who you think is better than that. Is that Matt Rule? I don't think so. Is Kurt Signetti leaving for that job? I don't think so. Is that many Diaz? I don't think so. So like, that is what is confusing to me is to make a decision that is that expensive, that is that quick, and you have to have somebody in place already. And I don't know who that would be.
Stugotz
I know how terrible his record is. It's epically, historically terrible. But in big games. But he has won two of the last four big games that we would have assigned as big games. Right? Northwestern and UCLA don't get to be big games just because he lost them. Like he lost the Oregon game, but he won playoff games last year. So can you get a coach better than winning two of his last four big games? If we're going to do this as dumb as you've got to win big games. And that's it.
Lucy Rodin
See, that's what I think. So like, I think Penn State is in a unique position because there are still members of their fan base that were alive when they were winning national championships. Lots of schools cannot say that. So the standard at Penn State is just a little bit higher. I. The playoff thing is interesting because like a lot of people will say that Penn State had the easiest run in the playoffs, which like I do agree with. But I think it's the fact that like he, he was losing the big games we something he has done, but he had never lost the small games until ucla. Northwestern and UCLA might be the greatest football team in the world now, we're not quite sure on that one. So that could end up being good.
Stugotz
Well, what do you do, what do you do with that? What do you do with DeShawn Foster going 04 with the UCLA team that then turns around and beats Penn State and then smokes Michigan State?
Lucy Rodin
I saw someone tweet. I wish I could remember who it was because I want to give them credit. And they were like, were they just not practicing? Like, like it really doesn't make any sense because like they have looked like a great football team, like truly. And it's weird because Foster was a guy that like players loved. Like he was, he was a players coach. People talked about him in that manner. And so like truly, it doesn't make Any sense to me. And I think it's honestly hilarious and really, really funny.
Stugotz
Can we get some good information out of you on Indiana winning a game at Oregon? At Oregon had won 23 straight regular season games, 18 in a row at home and on the spot. I, I know many people in college football have known about this, but on the spot because this makes this the most Indiana. The most interesting Indiana team of my lifetime, including the penix one that Signetti is one of the top coaches. If you didn't know it before, you knew it this weekend. Bouncing out of college football when we're making the professional sports standard now. James Franklin, you're fired. Who's the next hot guy we can get in here?
Lucy Rodin
Yeah. So I don't foresee Kurt Signetti leaving for the Penn State job. I don't really foresee him leaving for any job right now. I think he's, he's one more good away from them naming the stadium after him. Like he has everything he could want in Indiana and he's signed like a super long. He signed a pretty long extension last season. Like I think he'll be there for a long time. I think we all just need to sit down and collectively tell ourselves like hey, Indiana is. They are not a playoff team. They are a national championship caliber team. Because that Oregon game, although the score, I mean 10 point win, 30 to 20 outside of like one big sort of like breakdown in the defense and a pick six from Mendoza, Oregon did nothing like take those two plays out. It would have been 30 to six. Indiana was dominant in that game. They were a very good football team and you could say that they have less talent than Oregon and I think that's fair that they do. And it still didn't make any sort of difference in how good they are when it comes to Chris Signetti. I mean just listen to what he says. Google him. Like he wins. He wins everywhere.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but this.
Stugotz
Yeah, but it's not just that though. I'm not sure that anybody would say that his players are very vaunted like that.
Dan Le Batard
Whatever the rankings are, composite talent rankings have them as like the 72nd most talented team.
Stugotz
Hold on. So when I'm saying guys, no joke. Indiana football has never been this good. Has no right to be this good. Penx was great for them. But this is the best Indiana team there has ever been there. Indiana has always been terrible at football until like the last five years of. Sometimes they'll give you offense but going into Oregon, there's never been an Indiana team that can do that, no, no.
Dan Le Batard
They're outmatched when it comes to talent. And there's more to it when it comes to winning football games. That being said, especially when we look at what's happened to Penn State. Got my eye on Dan Lanning, one of these media darlings. Do something. Okay, well, do something to deserve how, how people view you. Win the big one.
Stugotz
Not only win the big one, Mike, but hey, these two teams, Penn State came back on you late and Indiana ground you to dust late in Nike in Nike Stadium.
Dan Le Batard
What happened to that team? Embarrassing. Dan Lanning just catches break after break after break.
Lucy Rodin
But he took his shirt off on game day.
Dan Le Batard
That's what it is. He's just fine. We all like Dan Lanning.
Chris Cote
Quite the tattoo for Lans.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, on the stomach.
Lucy Rodin
Yeah, Crazy tat. Hey, friends.
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Dan Le Batard
Hey, audience, I got a special treat for you because I want to talk to you about Miller Lite But I want to talk to you about Miller Lite with my good friend Rose. Hey, Rose.
Lucy Rodin
Hi, everybody.
Dan Le Batard
When we hang out and we hang out often, we're friends. I consider us friends.
Lucy Rodin
Yeah, me too.
Dan Le Batard
We're often toasting the good times. And what am I toasting with?
Lucy Rodin
With Miller Lite.
Dan Le Batard
That's right. Miller Lite. Whether you're hanging out with your dear friend Rose or at game day, it just hits different when you got a Miller Lite in your hand. From jaw dropping touchdowns to fantasy heartbreaks, it's a beer that has been there for every moment. 50 years of great taste, simple ingredients, and that iconic golden color that you can spot across the room. And it's just not the color of the beer, which is brilliant. That beautiful white can. How beautiful is that? Is that you doing the sound of a can opening? Is that your favorite sound?
Lucy Rodin
No, it is a horsey.
Dan Le Batard
A horsey. All right, we'll stop doing that. And here's a kicker. Miller light is just 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. The original light beer since 1975. That's right. And still hitting different five decades later. You're so good at this, Rose. I know. So whatever your game day looks like, remember, Miller time is always a good time. Look at us. We're a great tag team. High five again. Can you do that beer sound one more time? And the horse sound one more time. I regret asking you about that one, but the Miller Lite sound is good. Miller Lite, great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com shan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate. Responsive. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wiscon. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounce ounces. No, it says.
Stugotz
Oh, says Don LeBatard.
Lucy Rodin
He seems like a not nice guy and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him and I hope he has the day he deserves.
Stugotz
Oh, let's see.
Dan Le Batard
Stugatz.
Stugotz
I hope he has the day he deserves.
Lucy Rodin
That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go f yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve.
Stugotz
It's a great time. It's a great kind insult. Yes, it's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out.
Dan Le Batard
That's a less Southern.
Lucy Rodin
Bless your heart.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach who are the hot seat coaches? Who else after Franklin?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, well.
Lucy Rodin
So Luke Fickle. They. They lost Iowa 37, nothing.
Greg Cody
That's.
Lucy Rodin
Whoa. That's really, really not good. That's the first time Wisconsin has been shut out at home since 1980, and you're giving up 37 points to Iowa. That's not ideal. I think his time is done. And Wisconsin is a football team.
Billy Gill
That.
Lucy Rodin
That is just sort of fascinating to me in the way that they've fallen apart. Billy Napier feels like that's like a few weeks away, if not in a shorter amount of time. I'm not quite sure what's even taken it so long. And then my experience watching Auburn football this weekend in person was life changing in the worst way. Hugh Freeze has got to go. It's got to be over.
Stugotz
Life changing. We'll play the video now on her way out, and we'll get an Internet minute from her as well. But first, let's play the Lucy video here. Because you did not enjoy Auburn, is what you're telling us you.
Lucy Rodin
I loved Auburn. Auburn is one of my favorite places we've ever gone. That lemonade was awesome. The people were the most ridiculously friendly people we've ever met. That football was insane to watch. It was like I felt years of my life slip away just in the final two minutes of the first half.
Stugotz
Let's throw it to that video.
Lucy Rodin
These girls were selling lucky rocks for a dollar. And absolutely, if you're selling a lucky rock for a dollar, I'm gonna buy it. And they gave me this rock with. Which has stuff all over it that's now all over my hands. And they clearly just picked it up from there. And they are. They're just selling rocks that they found and I paid for one. Capitalism alive and well even with four. Hi, Dan. We are here in beautiful Auburn, Alabama, home of lemonade and toilet paper. This has been a delightful experience. Beautiful campus, the friendliest fans we have ever met. And it makes me sad that their football is trying to kill them. They deserve a lot better because they're kind, wonderful people with a cool campus and truly phenomenal lemonade. Today is my first Auburn game ever. Do you have any advice for me?
Stugotz
Enjoy it.
Lucy Rodin
Yell a lot, get excited, but don't get your hopes up too much. That is the most Auburn explanation you could have ever gotten in your life. And if you've ever been around Georgia fans, don't get too close because they might bite. Hey, Mark, do you have advice for me? I think you should try the Eagle.
Stugotz
Call I was born an Auburn Tiger. I grew up in that stadium. My whole family are Auburn alumni, and I have family that are scholar donors here. And I'm going to the game today, and it's just in my heart and I can't get rid of the passion.
Lucy Rodin
Can y' all explain to me the deal with your outfits?
Dan Le Batard
Associate membership.
Chris Cote
We're at a fraternity right now, so.
Lucy Rodin
Do you have to wear this to all the games all year?
Chris Cote
Technically, whenever our associate membership is done.
Dan Le Batard
We have to wear them.
Lucy Rodin
They just want us to look really good for all the games, you know, I like your outfits. I think you guys look wonderful down here. It's dressed to impress. Your game day outfits are planned with a PowerPoint before the season starts. Do not wear knee high boots ever again. This is not.
Stugotz
Okay.
Lucy Rodin
Picked up something comfortable. How would you describe the last, like 10 years or so of. Of rooting for Auburn? Definitely up and down.
Dan Le Batard
A lot of losing, not a lot of winning.
Lucy Rodin
Do you guys speak to professionals about it just to, like, make sure we're doing good mentally, or do we just ride the wave?
Chris Cote
You got to ride it. You got it.
Lucy Rodin
I was like, crashing out. Not last week because we had a bye week, thank goodness.
Stugotz
We probably got to a lot of anxiety, a lot of stress.
Lucy Rodin
My heart rate is up the entire time. I just learned to roll with it. I'm just. I'm here. I'm here for a good time, not a long time. Do you think this is Hugh Freeze, his last year here at Auburn?
Chris Cote
I hope not. Maybe they can stay a little.
Lucy Rodin
Stay a little down so that it's better for Georgia. Wish it was his last year.
Stugotz
No comment.
Lucy Rodin
Last year here. Who is. Who says yes? Raise your hands. Hugh Freeze is staying this year. Raise your hands. Or next year he'll still be the head coach. Okay. Hell yeah. Let's keep the vibe.
Stugotz
If he puts the same thing he's put on the field throughout his tenure here so far, it's probably all she wrote. With Coach Freeze.
Lucy Rodin
Does he golf too much?
Stugotz
When he lost to Texas A and M, it really didn't seem like he was fully kind of bought into what it takes, which is, hey, you might not have time to go out and golf during the summer.
Lucy Rodin
He golfs so much. They raise our tuition every year. So honestly, they might be for his buyout. I know. Don't. Do you.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Lucy Rodin
Do you guys think they are specifically raising your tuition because Auburn has so many buyouts they have to pay all the time? No doubt in my mind. How do you feel about them? Saying war eagle when their mascot's a tiger.
Chris Cote
Yeah, see, I don't really get the whole two mascot kind of thing. I mean, it's just a motto, but.
Lucy Rodin
You yell about eagles.
Chris Cote
A professor in the early days of Auburn that served in the Civil War, he saved an eagle that got knocked out of a nest when it was just a baby. What ended up happening is he raised it. It obviously didn't know how to fly, cuz got knocked out of its nest. So it was called the war eagle because it came from the Civil War. And then the first time they played Georgia, tied game, at halftime, the eagle gets up off of his shoulder, flies around, and everyone's like, war eagle. Like, yelling, war Eagles are pointing at it. The eagle went hit the ground and died on impact. But.
Dan Le Batard
But Auburn.
Chris Cote
Auburn won the game.
Lucy Rodin
Would you guys refer to, like, the way you say war eagle is like kind of like aloha, like.
Dan Le Batard
Sure.
Lucy Rodin
You just got a big win. How would you say war eagle?
Chris Cote
War eagle.
Dan Le Batard
War damn. War Eagle, baby.
Stugotz
War damn eagle.
Lucy Rodin
War eagle. You are going to the dentist. You just found out that you have five cavities. How are you saying war eagle?
Stugotz
War eagle?
Lucy Rodin
Just got broken up with War Eagle. You get a text back from your crush. War eagle. You just asked someone to marry you and they said yes. How would you say war eagle?
Dan Le Batard
War Eagle.
Lucy Rodin
War eagle.
Stugotz
Ward him. War Eagle, baby.
Lucy Rodin
Hugh Freeze got fired. War damn Eagle. This Georgia fan runs into our shot like a third time. How are you saying war eagle? I would do an eagle call. Great call back. Do you feel like this is a hateful rivalry or. No, because it doesn't. I'm not getting that vibe.
Chris Cote
I mean, it is long standing tradition, rivalry, but not a lot of hate. I would say hate's a strong word.
Lucy Rodin
This has been, I think, the friendliest fan base we've ever met. It's so, like Southern hospitality here. Like, it's so good. Yeah. We just interviewed your daughter. How do you think she did?
Stugotz
I know my daughter.
Mike Ryan
I know she did really well.
Lucy Rodin
Your daughter goes here. Did you go here? Are you a fan? What's your connection to Auburn aside from.
Stugotz
The financial aspect of it? My daughter is.
Mike Ryan
He goes here.
Stugotz
She's a freshman.
Lucy Rodin
Are you okay with a tuition increase if they fire Hugh Freeze?
Stugotz
I'll do it. If my daughter wants to go here, I'll pay it.
Lucy Rodin
Your dad said if they fire Hugh Freeze, you're still good if tuition goes up. So for you as a Georgia fan, the seeing Carson Beck succeed at Miami, how does that make you feel?
Mike Ryan
I think Carson thrives in the.
Chris Cote
More Miami. Maybe a little club scene there in Miami.
Stugotz
He might.
Chris Cote
He might be a little. That's kind of his vibe down there.
Lucy Rodin
You know what? That's perfect. I got nothing else to say about Carson. Back in his Lamborghini. That he got stolen through his own fault. I think he left the keys in the car.
Chris Cote
Probably did.
Dan Le Batard
He probably did.
Billy Gill
Texting his girlfriend or something.
Chris Cote
Probably.
Lucy Rodin
They broke up.
Dan Le Batard
They did.
Lucy Rodin
Oh, I think he cheated on her.
Chris Cote
He's the man of Snapchat.
Stugotz
He could have.
Billy Gill
He could have had some.
Lucy Rodin
Some Snapchat things going on there. So this trip to the loveliest village on the plains was brought to you by the Game Time app. Download the Gametime app and use code LUCY for $20 off your first order turn.
Billy Gill
Dan.
Lucy Rodin
That was one of the worst football games I've ever seen. Auburn was bad. Georgia wasn't particularly good. The refs were terrible. Everything about it was. Was really bad. And here's a fun fact about me. Auburn was my dream school. This is where I wanted to go to college, but they couldn't give me any money because they were too busy using it for buyouts. And I have a feeling they're about to have to do that again. Hugh Free's $15 million buyout. But the pride and joy of watching Auburn football do the most Auburn football things ever. That's priceless. Well, that's not true. It probably costs you a lot to send me to watch this bad football game.
Stugotz
Yeah. And you're going to expense account rocks. Rocks that people sell you, that are. That are just rocks on the side of the road. I'm sure I'm going to see that in the expense account. You just throw. Throwing away money.
Lucy Rodin
It was $1. It was a really good deal.
Dan Le Batard
Projectiles at a Hugh Freeze game. Seems like a mistake. Is this the most unlikely Louis Vuitton wearer in the history of. Did not have a Louis V at the South's oldest rivalry?
Chris Cote
He had like the thickest accent, too.
Stugotz
You were spinning these people on your finger, Lucy. This was one of the trips that you most enjoyed, obviously, because all of these people frolicked with you.
Lucy Rodin
No, really, like Auburn fans were just like insanely nice. And after every interview ended, it was almost difficult because people would be like asking me so many questions like, where are you from? Like, oh my God, tell me about your job. All this stuff. It was really nice. We were like, we have a job too. We do have to go. Incredibly friendly bunch. And I cannot stress enough that lemonade Is best lemonade I've ever had.
Stugotz
Okay. Nothing close. You can catch Lucy in Iowa for the Hawkeyes match up with the Penn State Nitley Lions this week, and that's ridiculous. That's not the game you should be at. I don't understand why that's the game you're at.
Lucy Rodin
I explained it. It was chosen a long time ago. It's out of our control.
Stugotz
I know. Poorly. Let's. Let's do an Internet minute here with Lucy, please. Time to get in it. It's Lucy's Internet minute.
Dan Le Batard
Whoa.
Lucy Rodin
That's neat. Okay, so it's a little bit of celebrity gossip, but it's some of my favorite celebrity gossip because the Internet, Dan, it was kind of. It was kind of rough this week. I was going to tell you about my Tick Tock Tarot card readers, but then something popped up this morning. Amy Roback and T.J. holmes are engaged. Now, we probably don't remember who they are. Those were the Good morning America anchors that they were Both married for 10 years to their respective partners and then cheated on them with each other. And they were like co hosts in the morning. Morning. And then they both got fired because everyone found out that they were cheating on their partners with each other and they just got engaged, which, like, I don't really care about that. What I do care about is that both of their partners are now dating each other. Nice. So, like, the people they left are now in a relationship with each other.
Mike Ryan
Nice.
Billy Gill
Did that happen with baseball players one time?
Mike Ryan
Yes. Cat Kitchen Peterson. They swapped families, not just wives.
Dan Le Batard
What?
Billy Gill
Yeah, they took each other's kids, too.
Mike Ryan
1973, I think the wheelhouse of Greg.
Stugotz
Cody, ladies and gentlemen. The wife swap in 1973. He's got. I think he got every single detail right. Name named the swingers and everything.
Mike Ryan
Fritz Peterson and Mike Keckich.
Dan Le Batard
That was awesome.
Stugotz
How is it that you have no other information that you can retain from last week and this morning but a sordid. The sports story from 52 years ago? You. You could probably give us all the information because they were nasty.
Mike Ryan
They were. I mean, it sort of was big news back then, you know? Can you imagine if that happened today? I mean, we literally just did. These are New York. I know, but that's the story I gave. I know, but these are New York. These aren't just local anchors. These are New York.
Lucy Rodin
No, these were Good Morning America anchors. These were, like national. This was national news.
Mike Ryan
In that case, I wonder if Kekich and Peterson had a comment. I wonder that's asking.
Stugotz
Oh, well, thank you, Lizzie. Yes, thank you for getting. What was that? Let me hear these. That's my Internet minute, boys. You want to get in it with an Internet minute?
Dan Le Batard
I have a question for. I have a question for Lucy on the way out, because part of the video kind of spoke to this. People hate Carson Beck. People hate him because I guarantee you, if Carson Beck's name was like Rocco Beckt and he was having the same season, he'd be the Heisman leader. The hate for Carson Beck is so strong that we're actually doing. One of the things that you normalized last week, which I love, is let's give the award to the best player in the nation, Reuben Bane. There is no other quarterback, I think, in the nation that would get the shine off of Ruben Bane quite like Carson Beck. People have made their mind up about this man.
Lucy Rodin
Well, that guy was a Georgia fan, so I think it was just like more personal vendetta. I don't. None of the Auburn fans had anything to say.
Dan Le Batard
I guarantee you, if Carson Beck just wasn't Carson Beck, this may be fault of his own. No doubt. I mean, you said that him getting his car stolen from his home was his own fault. I don't know how that happens when it's in your home, but people just don't like the young man.
Lucy Rodin
I think it was just a Georgia fan. Angry. I'm angry when. When players leave Iowa.
Stugotz
Play the imaging again. Time to get in it. It's Lucy's Internet minute. What's the first sound?
Lucy Rodin
I really like that.
Stugotz
It's an Internet minute.
Mike Ryan
Creepy.
Stugotz
He told me last week it wasn't ready yet. He had to workshop it. He told me.
Dan Le Batard
So the moan in the beginning was.
Chris Cote
The one that you were working last week.
Stugotz
I wanted this last week. And we. We only had music and he's like, dan, it's not ready. I gotta keep.
Lucy Rodin
Internet. I try to get in it.
Stugotz
I gotta keep sculpting it.
Chris Cote
It's like a how's your uncle in the beginning?
Billy Gill
Do something. Do it right, Dan. Minute.
Stugotz
Rhymes with minute. Yeah, that's the part that was missing last week. Lucy, thank you. We will talk to you next week.
Lucy Rodin
Bye. Thank you for the. For the song, Chris. I don't know if that's a song. I don't know what to.
Stugotz
No, it was a song book. You're welcome, Lulu. Chris is.
Greg Cody
Chris is a frat guy today, so he's giving people nicknames. Just so you know, it's not an HR thing.
Lucy Rodin
Okay.
Greg Cody
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Dan Le Batard
Don LeBatard.
Stugotz
He for some reason would do a Gary Stevens impersonation of the offensive coordinator of the Miami Dolphins and the University of Miami. Go ahead. Do you want to do that for the people? Your Gary Stevens impersonation. You want to give people some of that? 30 years in the making.
Dan Le Batard
St. Why?
Mike Ryan
Who needs me?
Greg Cody
Oh, that what I did my whole life.
Mike Ryan
You're gonna go to Buffalo and win with Bernie Pomele. Who needs big.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stucats. Let's go to the useless sound montage, please. It has been cleverly baked. And has it been edited by Billy Gill. Again, in the hands of Billy G. This is always a special treasure chest of sound and wonder. You have done a little bit of this. None of this. This has not been curated by you.
Greg Cody
I, you know, I oversaw it, but Ethan's been handling some of that. And if I don't say his name, he gets very mad at me. I got a stern talking to last week. It's like, okay, what if you're not.
Dan Le Batard
Familiar with a climb, a media climb, you do the things, you don't get credit, and then, you know, a couple years later you do get the credit for probably too much credit.
Billy Gill
Yeah.
Stugotz
What are we in? Six games in? Is that right? We six games in, man, it's great.
Mike Ryan
To win in the north.
Chris Cote
The only place we can go is next week. Believe in the, in the human beings, coaches, players, and they. While we didn't get it done, they did show me why I believe in them.
Stugotz
So proud of this group that just continues to fight and scratch and claw and just get it done. Getting a little tired of getting up.
Lucy Rodin
Here and having this conversation.
Mike Ryan
It is what it is and you.
Billy Gill
Got to keep working.
Chris Cote
It's not just one side of the ball.
Stugotz
Every phase capitalize on playing complimentary football to go up 17 to 3.
Chris Cote
It's an undisciplined operation at the moment.
Greg Cody
And it's on me.
Stugotz
Yeah, Jalen, I thought did a. Did a nice job. You just had a baby too, which is a great thing. So we had certain agendas that we thought were critical to.
Mike Ryan
To making this game unfold the way.
Stugotz
We desire for it to unfold. You say you can't win the game in the first, second and third, we needed to get kicked around a little bit because that's what happened. I have. No, I don't.
Dan Le Batard
I don't.
Stugotz
You think I know all that stuff right now. The overall trajectory of it has been what we desired. You know, Puka tried to be able to give it a go. Just didn't feel good enough and I apologize for that. But they were able to run it and we weren't and you know, this is a thank you. He maybe could have really pressed through, but we were kind of more being smart than anything. So I do apologize for that. Sarah, we're going to go back to the drum ball and get some things cleaned up on our offensive side.
Chris Cote
There's no doubt that there's guys that are hurting from the, you know, the game that we let slip away. But yeah, and my job there was, was to score, literally. If not, we would have lost the game. I honestly have no idea, truly how Ventrell played or not.
Stugotz
Ran with violence, had a plan. A man on a mission that wants to make yards. 17 is not enough. Chase another AFC north pelt here in a short number of days. They were the more physical team today. We knew that it was going to be a physical game and I'm man enough to stand up here in front of you guys and say that Woe.
Chris Cote
Was six and we claimed that.
Greg Cody
We're going on the road, we're flying to another country.
Stugotz
It's one thing to know who you have your responsibility. It's another to get through the trash, you know, could add some better spots that, you know, we'll keep growing, we'll keep learning together.
Chris Cote
I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate that for the guys and then what we're expecting out of the guys. It sounds like there was something on his mind with regard to the specific meetings with a couple individuals that he was trying to get corrected by being with direct communication. We have guys showing up to player only meetings late. Player led meetings are extra things outside of, you know, what I, what I demand. We've been very accountable to me. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory? Clearly he's sending a message. But from my standpoint, everything that I've asked of, asked of the guys that have delivered on.
Stugotz
I cannot say enough about Jalen Ramsey. Guys.
Chris Cote
We all got to look at ourselves not pointing fingers. We got to look at ourselves individually first. About what I could have done to help our team win that game. You know, the way you can make it suck more have an opportunity to seal the game and then, you know, we. We don't allow that to happen either way. Last week, Carolina offense. This week, you know, you can look at it however you want. It's hard to get victories in the National Football League. Jordan Brooks shared a Bible verse with us as well. I thought it was. It was. It was super dope.
Stugotz
I don't think we can say that the McDaniel Tua sound is useless. We fed off it all week.
Chris Cote
Angers me, honestly.
Dan Le Batard
Well, that's Ethan's fault.
Greg Cody
Told you it wasn't me. I mean, that's. You try to give someone, give an inch, they take a mile.
Stugotz
You know, you guys would agree that Tomlin still is the best. Tomlin is looking to replace Andrew Luck. And who was it? Was it Chuck Pagano? Like we've had.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, luminaries of the game.
Stugotz
Well, but the Mount Rushmore of useless sound montage recognizable upon voice. Mahomes was in there. I haven't heard very much from him this year, but you can instantaneously tell who it is in your imagination. Dan Campbell's rivaling people now. You hear. You hear the Neanderthal in his nether region as he speaks.
Dan Le Batard
You know who's putting up good tape this year? Sean McVay. Yeah, McVeigh's doing really good work.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, McVeigh. Very distinctive.
Stugotz
Who is the funniest in the history of the useless sound montage? Is it Pagano?
Dan Le Batard
Pagano. Tomlin. Pagano. Tomlin. Andrew Luck.
Chris Cote
Big three.
Dan Le Batard
That's the first ballot.
Stugotz
The baseball games from last night that Jeremy so desperately wishes to speak about. And I am going macro here when I simply say, and it's not prisoner of the moment of the Dodgers. Yeah. Best roster ever assembled. Biggest payroll ever assembled. The best international team of all stars ever formed. Aces coming out of the bullpen and built for this time of year where they've lopsided even baseball's randomness in the sport. Because what they guarantee themselves with the money is they've been in 13 straight years. And so what they guarantee themselves is it doesn't matter if Ohtani is good this series or not. Like, we'll get there. We've got enough players this. It'll be Freeman this time who hits the. The grand slam. It'll be Mookie Betts this time who hits the. Because we've got all. We've got all of the best players and they will remain the best. And now we've got the best pitching staff, too. Our starters are doing stuff that's not been seen in the sport. Like just no one can hit. The Mariners are this far and they've scored more than three runs in two games. Like, the pitching is extraordinary. You got everybody's coming out throwing unhittable bullshit. Like it's all 100 mile an hour Frisbee. And, and no, it's absurd. And so every once in a while somebody hits a, you know, a homer, a solo shot. But then the Yankees get eliminated because they can't hit enough of them. The pitching is totally absurd.
Billy Gill
I loved Yamamoto going the complete game yesterday. I was stunned. But maybe not. I shouldn't have been stunned that it hasn't happened since 2017. But man, like I, I get it why the managers bail on the pitchers early, but hey, give me once in a while in a playoff game. Give me a pitcher who can go six or seven innings. I mean, this guy went a complete game. Like, I miss when they used to actually give them some rope, you know, to go deep into a game.
Chris Cote
You know, this is the best start from a starting pitcher since Roy Holiday's no hitter in 2010. It was really unbelievable to see the complete game like that. So Doc Holliday, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, alds.
Greg Cody
That doesn't count.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but it's rest in peace, so it counts.
Chris Cote
Yeah.
Stugotz
Billy, how do you feel about this, seeing the sport sort of distorted to the whims of your beloved Dave Roberts and the Dodgers?
Greg Cody
The funny thing is, is you're saying how high their payroll is. They're paying Shohei $2 million or whatever years like even that is not accounted for in their payroll is, is that.
Chris Cote
He actually hasn't even been a productive player for them. And Max Muncie. Max Muncie didn't have a hit or, or he didn't have a home run or an RBI going into yesterday. And of course, the solo home run really breaks it open in the sixth inning. It was unbelievable because it was three.
Billy Gill
To one after that.
Chris Cote
And then they were really, really, really, really.
Stugotz
It doesn't matter if Ohtani's 1 for 17 with eight strikeouts. They got muk you bets and Freddie Freeman too. And if not, the Aces will just stuff the baseball down your throat like and, and what do you do? Because they're built. You know, I've never said this about a baseball team before, right? You could do load management in basketball. You could do load management now in hockey where you can save the bodies during the year. The Dodgers can pace themselves all year. They know they're going to make the playoffs and Then just.
Chris Cote
Dan's actually right about this, which is pretty crazy. You know, normally we don't say that about any sort of teams in terms of baseball being able to build for October, but Dan's actually right here.
Stugotz
Just play one of his songs. I don't want to hear any more about how I'm right. I'm bored being right. This is a story of Wild Bill.
Dan Le Batard
Who saves money with a little skill.
Stugotz
He taught us something great. To get a little thrill whenever he can skip out a bill and steal and steal. Greg is a cheat. Soap scraps.
Mike Ryan
Yes, sir.
Stugotz
Your family saves soap scraps. Cups.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Don't forget the cake cup. Life hack.
Greg Cody
Wild Bill.
Mike Ryan
Damn right.
Stugotz
Where are we on the K cup? Did we. Did we poverty shame folks who might have to use a coffee filter multiple times.
Chris Cote
This show?
Greg Cody
Who was shamed he was giving a helpful life hack.
Billy Gill
I told you.
Greg Cody
Zach's trying it.
Billy Gill
I'm gonna try it.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, it's. It's spreading like wildfire. My life hack. It really is. I got to get a patent. It is pending. I got to call my lawyer.
Dan Le Batard
Is spreading like wildfire.
Stugotz
It is that.
Dan Le Batard
That is the biggest recession indicator.
Stugotz
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
Reusing K cups.
Chris Cote
Can I replay my favorite part of today's show?
Greg Cody
Nah.
Stugotz
I think Billy and Mike have both had zoo experiences that have grown their relationship with Ron McGill. Do I have this wrong?
Dan Le Batard
We've been to the zoo.
Chris Cote
What? What on on earth is that kind of question?
Dan Le Batard
Have you guys been to the zoo?
Stugotz
The reason the question was asked, and.
Chris Cote
I'm sorry, it's so sexual in nature.
Mike Ryan
Daily bestiality being implied.
Lucy Rodin
Whoa.
Dan Le Batard
Sex and the animals, Greg.
Mike Ryan
Oh, that's true.
Stugotz
What's better than taking your kids to the zoo for the first.
Dan Le Batard
Then say that, dude.
Chris Cote
Say, hey, have you taken your kids to the zoo?
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Cuervo? Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Dan Le Batard
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Chris Cote
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
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Date: October 15, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This jam-packed hour centers on college football’s shifting dynamics, coaching hot seats, and the rapidly escalating standards for success at major programs—especially Miami and Penn State. Lucy Rohden, bouncing between football locales, joins to bring her signature on-the-ground insight (and humor), describing her trip to Auburn and handing out an “Internet Minute” of viral gossip. There’s also room for classic Le Batard show banter, irreverent humor, and philosophical musings on everything from “useless sound” sports clichés to the economics of the Dodgers’ superteam.
“Has to win the ACC championship and get in the playoffs and at least win one game in the playoffs to call this a success.” (04:13)
"...with the context of three weeks ago, they were two overtimes away from, you know, beating Oregon… to now, OK, you don't have a head coach. I think it just shows how intense things are in college football." (05:45)
“You have to have somebody who you think is better than that. Is that Matt Rule? I don't think so. Is Kurt Signetti leaving for that job? I don't think so.” (08:26)
“That's the first time Wisconsin has been shut out at home since 1980, and you're giving up 37 points to Iowa. That's not ideal.” (17:48)
“It was like I felt years of my life slip away just in the final two minutes of the first half.” (18:33)
"1973... Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich swapped families, not just wives." (27:44)
“Best roster ever assembled. Biggest payroll ever assembled. The best international team of all stars ever formed. Aces coming out of the bullpen…” (40:29)
“The standard for like, giving a little grace is pretty much gone.” – Lucy Rohden (06:30)
“You hear the Neanderthal in his nether region as he speaks.” – Dan, on Dan Campbell (39:17)
“The Dodgers can pace themselves all year. They know they're going to make the playoffs and then just...” – Dan Le Batard (42:20)
| Timestamp | Segment | Details/Quotes | |-----------|-----------------------------------------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:24 | Miami Expectations | Dan: Cristobal has “already succeeded” if undefeated | | 04:11 | Miami Success Criteria | Mike: “Has to win ACC and playoff game to call this success” | | 05:45 | Firing James Franklin | Lucy: “Objectively crazy” | | 06:29 | Broader Impact of Buyouts | Lucy: “This is going to put a lot more pressure on other schools” | | 08:26 | The Search for a Better Coach | Lucy: “You have to have somebody…who you think is better” | | 11:21 | Indiana/National Championship Caliber | Lucy: “Indiana ... national championship caliber team” | | 17:48 | Wisconsin Football in Shambles | Lucy: “That's not ideal…first time shut out since 1980” | | 18:33 | Auburn Fan Culture | Lucy: “Friendliest fan base... football trying to kill them” | | 27:44 | Internet Minute: Baseball Life Swap | Mike: “1973... Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich” | | 34:55 | Useless Sound Montage | Recapping sports cliché bonanza | | 40:29 | Dodgers’ Payroll, Superteam Riff | Dan: “Best roster ever assembled…” | | 43:52 | K-Cup Recession Indicator | Dan: “Biggest recession indicator—reusing K cups.” | | 43:44 | Zoo Banter & Bestiality Jokes | “Sex and the animals, Greg.” |
Lucy explores Auburn culture, jokes with fans about ritual dress codes, “lucky rocks,” and the fan experience, noting:
“I felt years of my life slip away just in the final two minutes.” (18:33)
Delivering celeb gossip about GMA anchors and the echoes of baseball’s infamous wife swap:
“...the people they left are now in a relationship with each other.” (27:44)
The episode features fast-paced, overlapping debates tinged with Miami sports parochialism, Lucy's playful candidness, and the classic blend of absurdity, snark, and heart that characterize the Le Batard universe. Lucy in particular acts as a field reporter and comic relief, fusing genuine insight with self-deprecating energy.
For listeners who missed it, this hour is an essential snapshot of where college football’s culture is headed, a celebration (and roast) of fandom and punditry, and a parade of running gags and recurring show traditions.