Hour 2: Not The Sharpest Knife In the Drawer (feat. Casanova Frankenstein)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: "Hour 2: Not The Sharpest Knife In the Drawer"

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Date: September 25, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Featured Guest: Casanova Frankenstein (fictional cameo/reference)

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Overview

The second hour of this episode explores themes of Hispanic representation in sports media, nostalgia for classic radio, the evolving nature of celebrity and movie stardom, “TV dad” archetypes, and playful pop culture riffs (including a running knife joke and a deep dive into the cult film Mystery Men). The hosts blend insight, personal anecdote, and their signature tongue-in-cheek humor, creating a conversation that’s as reflective and self-aware as it is lighthearted.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hispanic Representation in Sports Media (01:37–06:38)

• Dan Le Batard reflects on the significance of recording next to Miami’s Freedom Tower, connecting it to the immigrant experience and his family’s history:

  “The Freedom Tower is reopening… My father hasn't been to the Freedom Tower since he first got to this country and was processed through there.” (01:37)

• Dan notes the underrepresentation of Hispanics in major sports media, even though the demographic is highly sought after:

  “I do think that as a show… we are the most Hispanic show that there has been in sports… When the demo’s a huge one and it’s the magical unicorn that everybody wants to capture…” (02:24)

• Billy Gil and Chris Cody struggle to name current Hispanic sports broadcasters in the English-language mainstream, highlighting the lack of visibility:

  “There aren’t many… and now that you mention it, fewer.” – Billy Gil (03:51)

Memorable Moment

Dan’s request for Hispanic names quickly devolves into a tongue-in-cheek aside about how even well-meaning attempts to bring in “spice” sound “extra gringo”:

“Can you say it with a little more spice though? Because you’re saying it… extra, extra gringo. You’re saying deportes.” – Dan Le Batard to Chris Cody (06:27)

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2. TV Dads: Endangered Species? (07:04–12:31)

• Dan claims his father (“Boppy”) on Highly Questionable was among the “last sitcom dads,” sparking a debate about modern TV father figures:

  “That sitcom dad is… close to endangered.” (07:04)

• Billy Gil presents his list of “Top 5 TV Dads of the Last 10 Years,” with the group poking fun at his choices:
  • #5. Johnny Rose (Schitt’s Creek)
  • #4. Lee Corso (Dan: “That’s Abuelo, that’s not the same category.” – 10:08)
  • #3. Frank Reynolds (It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia)
  • #2. Phil Dunphy (Modern Family)
  • #1. Bandit (Bluey)
• Chris Cody is notably disappointed by the list:

  “It’s a disappointing list. Just being honest.” (12:24)

• Billy passionately defends Bluey as "healthy family dynamic" television and predicts the upcoming movie will create “Bluey Mania”:

  "It is good stuff… there is going to be Bluey Mania next summer." – Billy Gil (12:13)

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3. Radio Nostalgia & Disenchantment (16:32–23:14)

• The crew reminisces about Miami radio call signs, personalities, and the sensory experience of working in 'unglamorous' radio stations (brown carpet walls, peculiar staff).

  “The distinction between what radio, what you imagined it was… and then what it actually was… there is no greater gulf.” – Dan Le Batard (18:21)

• Billy and Chris debate the best branding (“Power 96,” “102.7 The Beach”) and swap memories about local radio personalities (including the legendary—and eccentric—Rick Shaw and Rob Sidney).
• Discussion touches on generational shifts and nostalgia:

  "We are blessed… I got to be there when radio was still a thing… in 20 years, the younger generation is going to look at me like I was a milkman." – Billy Gil (18:48)

• Their riffing lands on fuzzy dice on rearview mirrors and the memory of 1980s–90s Miami music radio culture.

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4. Movie Stardom, Streaming, & Will Smith’s Career (23:36–33:34)

• Discussion of Matt Damon and Ben Affleck’s new Netflix cop movie, “The Rip,” cues up reflection on bygone eras of movie stardom:

  “Is that time in movie stardom done where you’ve got just a signature person who makes movies that you simply watch?” – Dan Le Batard (24:28)

• Billy and Chris compare the fate of movie stars like Affleck and Damon to that of Will Smith, especially post-Oscar slap.
• The group debates whether the Chris Rock slap truly ended Will Smith’s big-budget leading man career, or if his trajectory was already declining:

  “Did that slap end up quietly ending his career as a big time actor?” – Dan Le Batard (29:15) “The Bad Boy sequel came out after that and it was a big success… I think the thing that killed his career was when he started rapping again.” – Billy Gil (29:47)

• They analyze whether news cycles and viral moments ("the slap") overshadow actual career achievements, noting that even Smith’s Oscar win has been forgotten.

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5. The Knife & Hypothetical Oscars Mayhem (33:14–37:37)

• The running joke about Will Smith metaphorically or literally “throwing a knife” at Chris Rock at the Oscars continues:

  “What if he threw a knife instead of the slap? That might have been pretty cool… if it doesn’t reach, right?” – Chris Cody (32:57)

• Several hosts debate what would have been a more “acceptable” outburst—slap, knife, fork, body slam—with tongue-in-cheek contrasts about criminality and absurdity:

  “Is that not attempted to murder? No, he’s just in a fit of rage. He threw a utensil. Happens to be a knife.” – Billy Gil (37:58)

• Billy Gil gets “reckless” by hypothesizing “roid rage” might have led to the Oscars incident, with other hosts speculating and joking about alternate realities:

  “Older guy trying to get back into action movies. I thought steroids… that’s a good take.” – Billy Gil (38:28)

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6. Mystery Men & Casanova Frankenstein (39:14–43:41)

• The discussion turns affectionate toward the cult 1999 superhero spoof Mystery Men, with particular praise for the villain Casanova Frankenstein, which provides the titular reference for this episode:

  “Is Casanova Frankenstein a good name?” – Dan Le Batard (41:55)

• Billy reveals Mystery Men’s biggest cultural legacy is Smash Mouth’s "All Star."
• The hosts roast each other over pronunciations (“Rick Moranis” vs. “Moranis”), tie-in Ben Stiller’s “Mr. Furious,” and recall Hank Azaria’s run at movie stardom post-Birdcage.
• The segment is peppered with inside jokes and riffs on minor pop culture details.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Representation:

  “Hispanics… are pretty quiet about complaining about inequality in this country. Our gratitude is profound.” – Dan Le Batard (02:12)

• On TV Dads:

  “Bandit from Bluey. The greatest dad in television history—period.” – Billy Gil (11:09)

• On Nostalgia vs. Reality:

  “The distinction between what radio, what you imagined it was… and then what it actually was when you got there and lived inside of it. There is no greater gulf in the history of American entertainment.” – Dan Le Batard (18:21)

• On Celebrity Scandal:

  “Did that slap end up quietly ending his career as a big time actor who’s going to get all of the big roles?” – Dan Le Batard on Will Smith (29:15)

• On Absurd Violence at the Oscars:

  “Putting aside attempted murder, if you just throw a knife that doesn’t reach, that’s actually less of a story than the slap…” – Dan Le Batard (37:43)

• On Pop Culture Arcana:

  “Billy just googled obscure.com, which is where he lives. He loves making the reference that four people get.” – Dan Le Batard (21:26)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:37 – Dan’s Freedom Tower reflection, opens Hispanic representation discussion
• 03:51 – Hosts struggle to name Hispanic sports media personalities
• 07:31 – TV dads, extinction of the “sitcom dad” archetype
• 09:42 – Billy Gil’s Top 5 TV Dads
• 12:13 – The “Bluey Mania” prediction
• 16:32 – Miami radio nostalgia begins
• 18:21 – Dan on the gulf between radio fantasy and reality
• 24:28 – Movie stardom nostalgia, new Affleck & Damon Netflix vehicle
• 29:15 – Will Smith question: has his career ended post-slap?
• 32:57 – The “knife at the Oscars” metafiction riff
• 38:28 – Billy’s “reckless” speculation: Will Smith and roid rage
• 41:55 – “Is Casanova Frankenstein a good name?” poll
• 43:14 – Debate over “Rick Moranis” pronunciation, Mystery Men deep dive

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Overall Tone & Style

The conversation is lively, nostalgic, irreverent, and frequently meta—aware of its own digressions and cultural rabbit holes. As ever, the show’s trademark is its blend of meaningful reflection (on representation, immigrant gratitude, cultural change) and boisterous, self-deprecating humor.

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For New Listeners:

You’ll come away with sharpened perspective on the changing face of American sports and entertainment media, a few hearty laughs, and at least three new inside jokes about knives, TV dads, and the immortal Casanova Frankenstein.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

It is not lost on me. It's legitimately moving and symbolic that we are right next door to the Freedom Tower. The Freedom Tower is reopening. Tony's gonna go over there with my father. My father hasn't been to the Freedom Tower since he first got to this country and was sort of processed through the Freedom Tower next door. And I wanted to ask you guys because I do think that as a show in the the present English language media and maybe ever in the English language media, we are the most Hispanic show that there has been in sports. And at espn, right before Skipper was gone, I had like submitted to him a plan on some things that ESPN could do to be better with that demographic because it's an underrepresented demographic in the sports media. And for all the complaints that you hear about people fighting about what equality is or isn't, Hispanics generally are wildly and hugely grateful to be in this country because of how awful some other countries without freedom can be and are pretty quiet about complaining about inequality in this country. But I just wanted to ask you guys, when it comes to Fox and ESPN as I see so few Hispanic men and women on television, when the demo's a huge one and it's the magical unicorn that everybody wants to capture the Hispanic demographic, who are the people that you're looking at in sports media? Because I don't think people are even noticing this because Hispanics don't tend to be very loud about this stuff because our gratitude is profound. Give me the people that you see in sports on television talking into microphones that you're like, yeah, that's a Hispanic person. That's, that's a Hispanic viewpoint. Because I'm seeing fewer than I usually have seen. Like I. When we were at ESPN and it was Izzy and it was Tony Collins and it was so Donna. Now it's just so dono. Like now you see what on espn? What's on Fox that's Hispanic?

[Billy Gil]

Anybody?

[Chris Cody]

Is there any.

[Billy Gil]

I can't answer that. I mean there are, there are certain talents I'm a big fan of. Hercules Gomez, former U.S. men's National Team player that he's Hispanic and he does really good English language stuff but it's siloed right. It is aimed towards a, a Latin audience even though his, his knowledge goes well beyond the game. But there, there aren't many known and now that you mention it, fewer. I can't really think of a box personality but I'm thinking on my feet here.

[Chris Cody]

I, I don't watch it but I would imagine if we watch the Porz it's. It's going to be all Hispanic.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know but it's a good. Yes, it is a good dance. A good answer. Thinking on his feet. Yes, he has stopped stabbing people and he has stopped throwing knives long.

[Chris Cody]

I'm sure Stephen A. Smith though has like you know, an hour on Fox or whatever ESPN deportes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stephen A. Smith, I saw is now being paid just as much by Sirius XM as he's being paid by ESPN as he continues his world conquering domination he's making. And I understand why Molly left first take when she is making 40 times less than Stephen A. Smith. And yet I can make the argument that Stephen A. Smith is worth 40 times more than a moderator that you can swap in and out and keep first take feeling largely as it, as it was. But to see Stephen A. Smith have the freedom to not only make more for first take than he's ever made and be their highest paid employee. Right? He is their highest paid employee. There's.

[Billy Gil]

He's like the highest paid person in sports annually. Remember that stat that you always used to say about Jim Rome? There are very few people in sports that are actually playing the game that say they out earn annually what Stephen A.

[Chris Cody]

Makes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jim. Jim Rome, what I used to say about him. Because of the deal he made with syndicated radio, he had a higher annual salary than anyone playing sports. And now Tom Brady makes more for broadcasting sports than he ever made for playing sports, which is a. An obvious absurdity. You guys don't think though that it's surprising. Nevermind that it's surprising that I don't see. The Latin demo is a pretty huge demo.

[Billy Gil]

Fox's baseball coverage on network. Fox is David Ortiz and Alex Rodriguez.

[Chris Cody]

He's also Jessica Mendoza, Mark Sanchez, Pedro.

[Dan LeBatard]

Pedro Martinez as well.

[Chris Cody]

And then you got. And then you got ESPN Deportes too.

[Billy Gil]

Uno de no. So that's true.

[Dan LeBatard]

You are just crushing as an ally here. And you do have deportes. Can you say it with a little more spice though? Because you're saying it. Extra, extra. Gringo. You're saying deportes.

[Chris Cody]

Deportes.

[Dan LeBatard]

I see.

[Billy Gil]

Deportes is one of those words that I kind of like fall in line with the gringo vacation of it. Like queso. I don't like to say queso. I like to say queso.

[Dan LeBatard]

Los Angeles. We're all, we're. We're all people who say nobody says Los Angeles. I get mad when I go to Los Angeles and I hear Los feliz. Like that's.

[Billy Gil]

Oh dude. I love like people talking about street signs in Los Angeles. La Brea.

[Dan LeBatard]

I have said before that my father on ESPN was one of the last sitcom dads. That there was that there. That this sit. Sitcom dad is not necessarily El Segundo extinct, but is close to endangered. Do you guys agree with that assessment? Before we get to Mike Ryan's top five list of top five TV dads.

[Billy Gil]

You got me thinking like not just our show, but highly questionable was responsible for one of the great TV dads of our time. Gonzo. If I were putting together a list in terms of the modern era, he'd be in the discussion.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I like to think so, but probably not. No, it's.

[Billy Gil]

It wasn't a good pick of you, Dan. On the screen.

[Dan LeBatard]

It wasn't a show. That picture makes me remember the commercial that we made. The one commercial I've ever made. I'm curious, do you think that the barstool audience turns on barstool at all when they see barstool making commercials for things? Because their thing, which has been a small thing that's theirs, is now something that's more mainstream. Because I was thinking when I made that commercial, I remember how mad people were that we went to espn. They were afraid that we were gonna change what we were doing because we were at espn. But I didn't realize when making the only commercial I've ever made for anything, our television show, I was, like, standing on a third floor, and beneath me was Jim Rome on a second floor.

[Chris Cody]

You were hosing them down, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I don't remember what I was doing, but I had a hose, and everyone thought that what I was doing was phallic because you look like you.

[Billy Gil]

Were peeing on them. You had a bungee cord because that's. You were on the third tier and you had to find your way down. But then you were just doing that awkward stance that you did, which a lot of people do at the urinal, so it looked like you were urinating on Jim Rome.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is what people thought I was doing. But I don't think Boppy. I don't think Boppy rises to the height of sitcom dads. But you have a top five list that has Olis.

[Chris Cody]

I have.

[Billy Gil]

No, I think Gonzo is the oli. I have a top five list of television dads of the last 10 years. Because we're not doing this anymore, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

But you're in agreement with me. I thought you were gonna disagree with me about the fact that it's almost. That it's almost extinct.

[Billy Gil]

Like, well, maybe this list will change your mind and remind you that, yeah, there are some still good TV dads out there. It can only do good. Number five, Johnny Rose from Schitt's Creek. Great one. This one came from Jeremy. Honestly, it wasn't for me. That's top tier.

[Dan LeBatard]

I thought this was your list. Is it your list?

[Billy Gil]

Eugene Levy. I needed a suggestion because I didn't want to underserve a part of the community just because I was ignorant to it. Because I didn't like Schitt's Creek. A lot of people do. And a lot of people espouse the virtues of how good of a dad Eugene Levy was on that show.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard. Show more famous eyebrows. Eugene Levy or Anthony Davis.

[Billy Gil]

Number four, Lee Corso. Great TV dad.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think that counts. I don't think you've Got this. I don't think you're playing the game correctly.

[Billy Gil]

You don't think Lee Corso was a dad, like a dad to many a grandpa.

[Dan LeBatard]

A grandpa. Maybe Abuelo can be an older dad.

[Billy Gil]

There are plenty people that are. That are north of 40 and 50 that have a dad that look like that. And I'm sure there's a part of our audience that's like, yeah, Lee Corso. That reminds me of either my peepaw or my dad. Granddads or dad too.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's Abuelo. That's not the same category. Sitcom dad. I think of like Phil from Modern Film.

[Billy Gil]

You keep making number three, you jerk. Frank Reynolds from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

[Chris Cody]

Sinister dad.

[Billy Gil]

Yes, a good sinister dad.

[Chris Cody]

But good dad.

[Billy Gil]

But sinister.

[Dan LeBatard]

You can't be a good dad.

[Billy Gil]

And sinister Frank Reynolds shows and undeniably close relationship with his children. It's just trying to decipher who exactly are his biologicals. Number two, Phil Dunphy, Modern Family.

[Chris Cody]

This is number one for me.

[Billy Gil]

And number one, I mean, this one's easy. Bandit from Bluey. The greatest dad in television history, period. Not just the modern era. If you've got kids, you know that Bandit is dad goals.

[Chris Cody]

So damn funny. It's a disappointing list. Just being honest.

[Billy Gil]

Your kids are teenagers. You're out of the game.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I don't know that fool.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's been your obsession with Bluey lately?

[Billy Gil]

Bluey's a great show. And. And for those that have. It's one of those things like there's so much out there for. For children to consume on television and it's pretty much all bad. I have a six year old, totally hijacked my television. Still running shop. I've watched them all. Dan. There is one show that's like, I like that show. It's a good show. This is actually. It shows you a really healthy family dynamic. It's a. It's got great role models, even though they're animated creatures. And it's Bluey that is wholesome content. It is good stuff. And they just announced a Bluey movie that is coming out in August. And I'm telling you, for an animated feature film that is not originally Disney or Pixar, this will shatter records. There is going to be Bluey Mania next summer. It's going to be the summer of Bluey, provided that we as a. As a species make it that far.

[Chris Cody]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Billy, are you like me that when you hear just the phrase the numbers 102.7 and I don't think that. I really don't think magic. That future generations. Yeah, that you hear 102.7 and it feels like magic. It is something that conjures. Now we have a relationship with radio that maybe not everybody has because we've made our lives in our livelihoods in radio. But when I hear 102.7, when I just hear those numbers. Magic 102.7, that's all dead, right? Like, that's literally.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Billy Gil]

Magic 102.7 is literally dead.

[Chris Cody]

People singing are dead.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, maybe, but I just mean the idea of all of that call letters, happy radio songs, tuning in to someplace and allowing them to choose your music for you.

[Billy Gil]

No, no, Dan, see, this is where you're wrong. You've been stuck on satellite radio too much and 90s on nine or whatever it is that you listen to. 102.7.

[Chris Cody]

Rest in peace. Magic, right?

[Billy Gil]

He used to play the songs from the 50s and 60s when I was growing up as a kid. And I'll be like, why are we.

[Chris Cody]

Listening to this 60s and 70s whatever. Well, he was. Yeah. Who was the guy that used to walk around in the socks in the office?

[Billy Gil]

Rick Shaw. Was he on magic?

[Chris Cody]

He ran 102.7. He'd walk around this, the office in just socks. And then, like, if you stayed late enough editing the podcast, he'd be in a Boy Scout uniform giving tours. Do you remember?

[Billy Gil]

I don't like that.

[Chris Cody]

You don't remember that guy. You did, like, the show after hours for a long time. And there used to be a guy that he was, I guess a Cub Scout leader. And he would give tours of different Cub Scout troops, like, during the show. And he'd walk by and you. They'd like, look in the studio. I vaguely remember this. And he would. During the day, he never wore shoes. He was always in his socks. I don't like that.

[Billy Gil]

He would brush his teeth in the bathroom.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Who was that guy?

[Billy Gil]

Was that guy.

[Dan LeBatard]

The distinction between what radio, what you imagined it was based on listening to it, and then what it actually was when you got there and lived inside of it. There is no greater gulf in the history of American entertainment.

[Chris Cody]

You didn't think it was glamorous.

[Dan LeBatard]

The imagination would make whatever it is that you felt about 102.7 make it seem vastly more glamorous than it actually was.

[Billy Gil]

We are. We are blessed. I'm so grateful. I loved radio. Audio is still my favorite medium, but, like, I got to be there when radio was still a thing. And I realized, like, 20 years from now, like, the younger generation is going to be looking at me and I'm going to be talking to them about this job that I had, and it's going to be like I was a milkman.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. All the walls just had brown carpet on them. I'd never seen carpet on walls before.

[Billy Gil]

Acoustically treated. Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Was it acoustically treated or was it before? We knew how to acoustically treat things, so we used carpet, but brown.

[Billy Gil]

It was all brown.

[Chris Cody]

For some reason, I didn't understand it.

[Billy Gil]

It was a big color back then.

[Dan LeBatard]

Shag. Was it shag? Was it a shag color?

[Billy Gil]

It's like office rug, but, like, from the rug to the wall. Dave Corey had the zebra. Remember that?

[Chris Cody]

He was a character.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah. So again, Dan, rest in peace. Magic 102.7. But what they did is they revitalized it. 1027, the beach.

[Chris Cody]

I don't like that.

[Billy Gil]

The beach. Fun music. 80s, a little bit of 90s, but mostly 80s music. Oh, that's great. I was a big fan of the beach that. Oh, so it's like derivative of the coast 90.97.3. Correct. Which had gnarly 90s and today, which had gnarly Charlie on the weekends. And it was like all 80s weekend from gnarly Charlie. You know what is like a throwback station out never really changed its branding. Power 96. It's like you grew up listening to Power 96. Guess what? We stayed the same. We're back to just 90s hip hop and turn of the century hip hop. But do they have big booty bass music? Do they have the power Hour? Yeah, Power hour is a big deal. Big booty bass, Dan, was that thing power 96.

[Dan LeBatard]

When you mention it, this is what I remember. Okay. I'm in grandma's car because I don't have my own car, but I'm driving it. And I placed dice on the rear view mirror and power 96.

[Chris Cody]

Color like a boss.

[Dan LeBatard]

They were. They were white. They were white.

[Chris Cody]

Fuzzy, fuzzy man.

[Billy Gil]

Fuzzy. Fuzzy dice on a. On a rear view mirror. I'm like this guy.

[Chris Cody]

That was me. That was me.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm. I'm pathetic as I say it, but here's even more pathetic for you. And you want to say. You say milkman. How's this for antiquated? At the time that I was listening to Power 96, all they would play all day is the top 10 songs in America. There was no 11th song. It was only all day. It was the top ten songs.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Love it.

[Billy Gil]

That's great, man. Fuzzy dice on a rear view mirror. That guy fucks more than Jason Bonetti.

[Chris Cody]

Rob Sidney New 102.7 the Beach.

[Dan LeBatard]

Rob Sidney was the guy with socks.

[Chris Cody]

Yes. He would come wearing the boy Scout.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, yes, yes. Look at how happy it makes Billy.

[Chris Cody]

What the hec hell did he Google.

[Billy Gil]

To get that name?

[Dan LeBatard]

Billy? Billy just googled obscure.com, which is where he lives. He loves. He loves making the reference that four people get.

[Chris Cody]

He seems so happy, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

He lives. He lives for it. Why was he walking around in his socks? Those floors were.

[Billy Gil]

There is a. There was a PD in that building. I won't name him, but in retrospect, was definitely hitting on me. It was like, after me too. I'm like, yeah. Oh, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

The all new 102.7 the beach. It's over though, right? That. That. That as a concept. If I played that for those children running around saying 6, 7. If I. If I played that for them. Jeremy, do you even know what this is like? Is this something that you have any familiarity with the song and the. These aren't called letters because they're numbers, but this. This whole people singing all new.

[Billy Gil]

102.7 the Beat. This was a rebrand, Dan. Like 2014. 15.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, of course I know. 101.5. Wow. Come on. What song do you hear after that? Barry Manilow.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sudio.

[Billy Gil]

I'll say True by Spandau Ballet. It wasn't a song. It was John Tesh's voice. Oh, man, you're taking me back right now. Remember, 99 jams. 99 jams. 135. The beat.

[Chris Cody]

Roll call, roll call.

[Billy Gil]

That's all good with the rhyme. Like you're saying do your home. He'll be where you representing?

[Dan LeBatard]

There's Rob Sidney with someone who's obviously not Prince. Wow.

[Billy Gil]

That is Prince. He got a picture with Prince.

[Chris Cody]

Maybe it's the Mucinex, but that looks like Prince.

[Billy Gil]

That is Prince.

[Chris Cody]

This photo's funny.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at Levitard show. Have you had ever had your judgment impaired by the Mucine somewhere?

[Billy Gil]

Oh, snow day. We got it down.

[Chris Cody]

What are we doing to this guy?

[Billy Gil]

We've made Rob Sidney's day. He's out of Buc EE's. Wow. Hey, Rob.

[Chris Cody]

Magic 102.7.

[Dan LeBatard]

I wanted to ask you guys if you have seen the trailer for the new Netflix movie. It has not come out yet. I don't think it comes out for a bit yet. The Miami cops in Hialeah being played by Affleck and Matt Damon. I don't know.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, yes, the rip.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Rip is the name of it. And I've seen that. Netflix is taking advantage of. Hey, these two guys. You guys like them in movies together. You haven't seen them in a while. Here's a cop movie. And also here's what our subscription costs a month. If you want this movie, it's going to cost you 799amonth. Where the way that they're selling it and it's smart, obviously is we've got these guys doing this. When's the last time that those two appeared together in a vehicle where they were both doing the starring opposite each other? And in this case, they're police officers and they're dirty police officers. Because I assume that putting. I'm assuming I passed this the other day when I was talking about Robert Redford and I did it very briefly and I was just saying is that time in movie stardom done where you've got just a signature person who makes movies that you will simply watch? What they're doing on Netflix. I've watched Here Black Rabbit, which I enjoyed. I ripped through it real fast. Because if Justin Bateman is now into directing, I want to see what it is that he's doing. Jason Bateman. Excuse me. Thank you, Chris. If Jason Bateman is directing a movie, as he decides with his creative choices to grow, I'm gonna watch what he's doing. But it's not because he's necessarily starring in it. It's because I like the choices that he makes. If I tell you Affleck by himself is not what he used to be, I think Damon kind of is. But when I. That triggers a nostalgia that makes people want to watch that movie.

[Billy Gil]

Well, nobody watched the Last Duel and that was the last movie that they were in together. Now. That was.

[Chris Cody]

Ben Affleck was in that.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah. No, it's one of those moments, like, he's not. Adam Driver is the co lead with Damon. But there's he. Ben Affleck pops up and Everybody from the 90s is just like, yeah, like Tony saying hello to the. The train driver.

[Chris Cody]

Can we praise him universally for always making good choices? If he's presently in a State Farm commercial.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, you don't have to.

[Chris Cody]

I'm not saying, look, got a bag. God bless everyone for getting the money right, which is what he's doing. But I mean, obviously make decisions, financial decisions there when he's pretending to be Batman, but he's not in State Farm commercial.

[Billy Gil]

I don't understand how you can have the career arc that Ben Affleck has had where you dug yourself out of, like, the superhero hell that you were in.

[Chris Cody]

He was in a hole.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah. And then you're like, all right, I'm back. Awards everywhere. Let me try this superhero thing again with Zack Snyder. Why would you do this, man?

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[Billy Gil]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Hoardiest captain Slappy Stugats is this chum bucket?

[Chris Cody]

This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

I saw that Will Smith is coming here in November. At the beginning of November he's going to be at the arena. I think it's a motivation, motivational speech thing or a business conference thing. And when I saw it on being advertised on a bus stop, it made me wonder and consider actually for the first time. Oh, is Will Smith done like did that slap with Chris Rock? Will Smith was before the Rock the biggest movie star in America. I think he had made more hundred million dollar movies than anybody except Eddie Murphy.

[Billy Gil]

I have to clean something up. I found a movie even more recent than the last duel which was 20. They were both in air together.

[Dan LeBatard]

What is that?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, that's Michael Jordan sneakers.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, that's a movie.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, that's good movie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Is Will Smith done? Like did that slap end up quietly ending his career? Now he had had obviously a lot of bad choices before that. But did he somehow. The night that he won the Oscar, did he end his career as a big time actor who's going to get all of the big roles?

[Billy Gil]

Nah, I would have thought so too. And he's kind of become a punchline. And we'll. If he ever does, like an original concept. But the Bad boy sequel came out after that and it was a big success. Yeah, I think the thing that killed his career was when he started rapping again. Yeah, that was.

[Chris Cody]

He came out with an album recently.

[Billy Gil]

The freestyles were not good.

[Chris Cody]

Even though I'm an action star, I've heard rumors that he could be Netflix's to follow up the Brady Roast. Like if they got him to agree.

[Billy Gil]

To do that, that that go a long way. That could help him in softening him. I. I don't know, man. I get a little uncomfortable.

[Chris Cody]

There's no way he does. They would go so hard. He's that up ad joke. But this about Jada Pinkett. There's no way in terms of he has to realize how out he is right now. I think that's a way his team could say, hey, if you want to get back in here.

[Billy Gil]

I still tense up. Like, I still feel embarrassed from that moment. I was so awkward.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I told you guys that I read his biography and I thought it was really good. And there was a lot of interesting stuff in it, including how sort of formulaically he made some of the choices to become what he wanted to be. Like, he went up to Schwarzenegger and said, I want to be what you are. I want to be the biggest movie star on the planet. So when you talk about what that economy is and how you rejuvenate it, when Mike says bad boys, that's him going to the well that he knows he can go to trying to kick start it. And I just don't know how many other offers he's getting because you're not seeing him in big vehicles. When the entire industry has changed in a way that finds all of this stuff on streaming. Like, it's still strange to me to see Affleck and Damon starring in something that I can pull up on my television. Like, that's not something. When I was talking to you guys about Robert Redford and whether that's gonna be allowed to exist anymore. The movie star as sex symbol, as the guy everyone wants for a single role. Not, you know, not Ryan Reynolds or Gosling or pretty boys that are absolutely, you know, movie stars. But what Redford was or what even Clooney was where you got one role, and every director wants that actor for that role. I think that time, if not dead, is headed toward dying, I would say.

[Chris Cody]

It'S also important to point out with Will Smith, he had done plenty of movies over the last 10, 15 years that just bomb. And so that on top of the incident at the Oscars, you probably. His movies had already taken a hit, I think.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, but again, remember Oscars? He's winning.

[Chris Cody]

What was it he won for again?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oscar. Serena Williams is dead.

[Billy Gil]

That's not a good sign right there. When you can't tell me what the Oscar was, it's like, oh, yeah, he.

[Dan LeBatard]

Won an Oscar for what?

[Chris Cody]

I wouldn't have guessed it. He was good in that, now that I think of it.

[Billy Gil]

But, yeah, yeah, let's just go ahead and Google Will Smith Oscar, see what comes up first. The reason why you don't remember it is because the slap. The slap just outshined everything. It just erased what was an incredible comeback story.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris Cody's not wrong when he said it had been. I mean, we were making fun of him for making him. Making that Netflix thing, as with orcs. And he was making a lot of decisions for many years that were not good decisions. But usually you win the Oscar, you get a lot of chances after that.

[Chris Cody]

What if he threw a knife instead of the slop? That might have been pretty cool. I don't know. Hey, it wouldn't have reached, right? Like, it just would have been like, oh, man, he's really angry. That's crazy. But the slap. There was something about the slap that was just. I think the knife would have been worse, probably. Well, not if it doesn't reach Mike.

[Dan LeBatard]

You still cringe.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

When you just see Will Smith, like.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, because I just take. I go back to that moment was so awkward.

[Chris Cody]

Just makes me sad.

[Billy Gil]

It was so. It was so strange. And, like, as it was happening, you kept hoping that it was like a setup and that there would be a smile, but everyone just had to sit in it. And I think he won the award after that.

[Chris Cody]

Of course.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, he won the award.

[Chris Cody]

It was later that night, somebody that's.

[Billy Gil]

Like the most, like, it is the most awkward thing that you've ever seen.

[Chris Cody]

Well, it was. What? There's two parts of it, right? Because he slapped him, and everyone's like, oh, funny. But then it was when he yelled, keep my wife's name out.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jump up.

[Billy Gil]

And he had that serious look on his face. And like, Chris Rock was stunned by it. Said under his breath, man, I could. And then he decided not to.

[Chris Cody]

So to be clear, if you guys are saying had he thrown a knife on stage and not hit Chris Rock, it would have gone better for him. I disputed that. Then just. Actually, I'm with Chris, by the way. I think if, like, you see him, there's a camera on him. He's like, did he throw something? And then they pan to the stage, like, did he just throw a knife? Everyone be like, by the blade.

[Dan LeBatard]

So just. Just to be clear to you what. What you're alleging is, the. The. The knife's not landing right. He's just throwing it on stage.

[Chris Cody]

I'm trying to fight. I'm. Me and you, we're here trying to figure this out together. I'm trying to figure out this allegation that it's better for him to throw a knife and miss than land a punch. In my mind, it reaches him, but just the. The handle hits him. So it falls. Would have been crazy.

[Billy Gil]

In my mind, it hits him, but we don't know it hits him until he looks down and he's like.

[Chris Cody]

He's bleeding. All of a sudden, so quick we're on his face where he's like, what just happened?

[Billy Gil]

Exactly. He doesn't even know.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then the adrenaline of hosting the show, right?

[Billy Gil]

He has no idea. But then the blood starts dripping, and you're like, wait a second. What is that? That is so sad. Every time it happens in a movie where, like, the hero is. You think he escapes, you think. And then they're, like, celebrating they got to safety. And then he opens his jacket.

[Chris Cody]

How do you not know your shot? Oh, no. In these movies, they're always just like, the adrenaline. Come on.

[Billy Gil]

The adrenaline. I feel there's times that it happens to a bad guy and you're still sad. Like when it happens to Tom Cruise.

[Chris Cody]

Collateral, you're like, now I feel like.

[Billy Gil]

We came around Tom Cruise and Collateral, I feel like it. You turn the corner and you realize you took an affinity to Jamie Foxx. And it's kind of weird that you're in so in this movie with Jamie Foxx while he was with your ex.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I think I have it right when I say that as surprised as Chris Rock would be if he's just doing his monologue and I don't know where a knife thrown by Will Smith embeds itself in his stomach, would still be less surprised than I was when I was talking about Will Smith and Zas decided to make his knife sound again and bring back the knife conversationally again. Just because it reminds us of a better time in this show two hours ago, when we were enjoying ourselves more instead of running out of gas.

[Chris Cody]

I have a knife falling short, but just sliding across the stage slowly. And then the tip just hits his shoe.

[Dan LeBatard]

Clattering. I. I like clattering. And. And I still don't think that that's worse than what happened. I think.

[Chris Cody]

I think throwing a knife at someone is worse.

[Billy Gil]

We can agree, though, walking up and.

[Chris Cody]

Slapping someone doesn't make you look like the sharpest knife in the drawer, Billy.

[Billy Gil]

Most of the time. And you're happy that someone's bleeding out because it's about to ruin the plot. Like that scene in the Departed where he's in the warehouse and Leo's, like, sad that his, like his buddy died and he's like, you know, I. I remembered I gave you the wrong address. You're the.

[Chris Cody]

Do you think they would have let Chris Rock die on stage had he thrown a knife and got embedded in him and then he fell to the floor and was bleeding? The better question is, does Will Smith still get the Oscar at the end of the night? That is probably not. You don't think he gets the Oscar? No, I think they do a revote.

[Billy Gil]

No, I think they suspend the broadcast because of what happened.

[Chris Cody]

But do you think that they would know to act immediately or they would think it was part of the show?

[Billy Gil]

Is this segment in poor taste?

[Chris Cody]

I saw an episode of Monk where that happened.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Would they have given Will Smith the Oscar if he had stabbed Chris Rock?

[Billy Gil]

These are dangerous hypotheticals that I'm uncomfortable.

[Chris Cody]

I don't like it.

[Billy Gil]

Especially when what happened was so much worse.

[Dan LeBatard]

The thing.

[Chris Cody]

Worse?

[Billy Gil]

It's not worse to slap a man like that and not to flash a smile.

[Chris Cody]

What if he went up and body slammed him wrestling style?

[Billy Gil]

That's fun.

[Chris Cody]

Just picked him up.

[Billy Gil]

That's fine.

[Dan LeBatard]

The thing that I'm objecting to is that if Will Smith had thrown a knife on stage that hadn't made any contact, it would have been less of a story than what it is that actually happened.

[Chris Cody]

I agree. Is that not attempted to murder? No, he's just in a fit of rage. He threw a utensil. It happens to be a knife. He's just mad. What if it was a fork?

[Billy Gil]

I've. I've in my mind trying to figure out what happened there. If you'd like. I'd like the opportunity to get reckless now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sure. All right, hold on a second.

[Chris Cody]

So time to throw away the journalistic credibility and get reckless here is something we like to call reckless speculation.

[Billy Gil]

You get, we probably should have fired this off seven minutes ago. So I was trying to figure out, like, what's going on there. Obviously him and Jada are hitting a rough patch. Why would he just fly off the handle here? And I thought, older guy trying to get back into action movies. I thought steroids. Wow, that's a good take.

[Chris Cody]

So is Roid Rage.

[Billy Gil]

That's a good explanation, right? Could be mixed with something else, too. For reckless. Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I'm with what I'm being reckless right.

[Billy Gil]

Now, but I'm not going to be all the way reckless. There's a lot of different reasons as to why that might happen.

[Chris Cody]

A little bit of the white lady. Is that what you say? What's that? Careful, we're on a knife set. You don't know about that white lady. That's reckless.

[Billy Gil]

Reckless.

[Chris Cody]

A spoon is forgivable fork like the Blue Rajah.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a good reference by you.

[Billy Gil]

He never wore blue. I pissed me off.

[Dan LeBatard]

I still make fun of Hank Azaria because he comes my favorite movie. Well, this is what he did, though. Okay. This is formulaically when you talk about what it is that people in Hollywood have to do formulaically to become the old timey Robert Redford type of movie star. Hank Azaria coming off of his performance in Birdcage. Okay. Where everyone noticed how talented Hank Azaria was after you have that kind of seminal performance, he and his people knew that you get three chances at becoming from there the giant lead movie star. You'll get three movies. He thought he was making good choices with Godzilla, Mystery Men as the Blue Rajah. And I maintain that's a good movie and that was a good role for him. It should have been more successful.

[Chris Cody]

Ben Stiller just.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes. Furious man or whatever. All he would do is get as a superhero. That's right. He just gets mad. There's no. There's no superpower.

[Chris Cody]

Was William H. Macy's a shoveler? Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Kel farted.

[Dan LeBatard]

And the third movie was Mystery Alaska. And those aren't the choices you can make if you want to then parlay your birdcage performance into resounding movie startup. Two movies with the word mystery in them. Neither a mystery. One of them with a guy who is farting as a superhero power.

[Billy Gil]

So wait a second. It's a superhero movie about dudes that don't have superpowers.

[Chris Cody]

They, like, are shaking their fist at the real superheroes. They get no respect.

[Billy Gil]

You know, what that's that movie's greatest legacy is right. What it gave us all star by smash mouth. Really?

[Dan LeBatard]

Can you guys look up for me please? Ben Stiller's character, was it called Mr. Furious? Because his character was to just get enraged. His super.

[Chris Cody]

So he's the Incredible Hulk.

[Dan LeBatard]

Without turning into the Incredible Hulk without any real power. It's just anger. Like it's not. It doesn't have any strength behind it, I really think. And get one of the forks and.

[Billy Gil]

Just like, like key the.

[Chris Cody]

Greg Kinnear played Captain Amazing who was like the actual superhero that they all wanted to be.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, he had. He had a NASCAR sponsored tracksuit. Mr. Furious was indeed the name.

[Chris Cody]

Peewee Herman was the spleen.

[Dan LeBatard]

He was the farter.

[Billy Gil]

He was a farter. Yeah. He was the invisible boy that wasn't invisible until the end.

[Chris Cody]

Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. See that movie? Casanova Frankenstein, the bad guy.

[Dan LeBatard]

He was bad.

[Billy Gil]

Is that Jeffrey Rush a good name though. Casanova Frankenstein's a good name. They.

[Chris Cody]

They're like, we got Casanova. Let's combine them.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at Levittard show. Is Casanova Frankenstein a good name? I was thinking about this the other day, actually. We were talking about for some reason, commissioners and Adam Silver and the power of commissioners. And I was thinking, and I didn't say it at the time, the greatest name that a commissioner has ever had is Kennesaw Mountain Landis. There has been no greater name than one of the original baseball commissioners. Kennesaw Mountain Landis. You will not do better than that.

[Billy Gil]

Well, there was a pretty good name that was bandied about by Chris Cody during the commercial break because Spaceballs 2 is coming out. And he got really excited about the returning to acting. The unretirement of Rick Moranis.

[Chris Cody]

I did not put the gap there. I said Rick Moranis. Is that not how.

[Billy Gil]

No, it's not Moranis. It's Moranis.

[Chris Cody]

Tomato, tomato.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's why I heard you guys all talking in the other room about Moranis. I didn't have any context for what it is you were talking about. You were talking about the unretirement of Rick Moranis.

[Chris Cody]

You were going to say it my way. They bullied you into it.

[Dan LeBatard]

I get it. More anus.

[Chris Cody]

You guys are putting a little like space there. It didn't sound Rick Moranis.

[Billy Gil]

It didn't. It didn't sound weird.

[Chris Cody]

Rah. That's how I've always said it. That sounds normal to me.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, I bet it does, pal.

[Dan LeBatard]

My guy, Hank Azaria. After the birdcage selected a script where he was a superhero. The Blue Rajah who threw forks and didn't wear blue.

[Chris Cody]

Maddening. Reading the synopsis of that one.

[Billy Gil]

Probably not something that gets made today. Mystery Men.

[Chris Cody]

Blue Raja where he's doing an Indian accent the whole time. Hank Azaria.

[Billy Gil]

Spoiler alert. Yeah, it was a put on.

[Chris Cody]

Don't look into the Simpsons, buddy.

[Billy Gil]

Oh, no, no. I mean, hey, look.

[Chris Cody]

Hey, Kazaria. Baseball guy. And speaking of baseball pitch clocks, next Thursday night football is on and it's only on Prime Video. Tonight, the Seattle Seahawks face the Arizona Cardinals in an NFC west showdown. It's the Birds versus the Birds. Coverage begins at 7pm Eastern with football's best party, TNF tonight. Not a Prime member. Not a problem. Simply sign up for a 30 day free trial. Trial. It's the Seahawks and the Cardinals tonight at 7:00pm Eastern only on Prime Video. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com Amazon prime for details.