The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: Hour 2: Phrogging (feat. David Samson)

Release Date: July 17, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

1. Introduction to Frogging

At the [02:22] mark, Greg Cote introduces a fascinating yet unsettling topic: "frogging." Defined as "the act of living inside the home of others without them knowing you're living there," frogging involves individuals secretly residing within hidden spaces of a house, such as walls, attics, or basements.

Greg Cote:
"It is the act of living inside the home of others without them knowing you're living there... human beings are squatting in your house, basically, and you don't know that they are there."
[02:24]

2. Exploring the Concept of Frogging

The hosts delve deeper into the implications and reality of frogging, considering its portrayal in media and its real-life occurrences, especially among celebrities.

Billy Corben:
"I found an example of celebrities who have had this happen. JLo once had somebody break into and live in a pool house for a full week before they were caught by security. Brad Pitt had a lady who was caught after 10 hours."
[04:56]

Greg Cote:
"It just seems horrifying to think that that's something that could happen in your home."
[05:16]

The discussion touches on the psychological aspects, suggesting that frogging often stems from desperation and may sometimes carry a voyeuristic thrill.

David Samson:
"Safe to say that people are inventing new ways to please themselves. And I feel like that's probably one of them."
[04:10]

3. Frogging as a Potential Reality Show Concept

Stugotz humorously speculates on turning frogging into a reality competition, imagining contestants attempting to live undetected in others' homes.

Stugotz:
"I feel like what you got to do is you go to, like, a neighborhood and you say, like, oh, you know, we're rebuilding your park and we just need to have cameras in your home or whatever. You get them to sign off on the consent, and then you have, like, four houses and four contestants, and you see who can live in someone else's home the longest."
[05:37]

4. Transition to Sports Coaching: Brian Kelly vs. Ryan Day

Shifting gears, the conversation turns to college football coaching, specifically focusing on Brian Kelly of LSU and Ryan Day of Ohio State. The hosts debate their capabilities, legacies, and the pressures they face to win big games.

Greg Cote:
"Greg Cote: So just I'm of the understanding that Nick Saban will have a forever legacy, at least in part because of what it is that he did at Alabama and in that conference. Okay. But Brian Kelly at LSU as highest paid, sexiest coaching leadership thing that you can get."
[18:22]

Rebecca:
"He didn't win a championship at Notre Dame, but he did get Notre Dame back."
[14:25]

The discussion critically examines Kelly's performance at LSU, comparing it to Saban's enduring success at Alabama, and questions whether Ryan Day can elevate his legacy similarly.

Greg Cote:
"He's more than a champion. He also has like, if it's not the highest, it's one of the highest career win percentages as a head coach. He's a good coach. He just... can't beat Michigan, which is their biggest rival."
[20:51]

5. Debating Coaching Legacies and Game Management

The panel debates the broader implications of coaching strategies, specifically in high-stakes games. They discuss how certain coaches manage (or mismanage) crucial moments, influencing their reputations.

Juju:
"I thought it used to be mean and crotchety, but now like, wow, just totally changed it for me. Really nice guy."
[16:31]

Greg Cote:
"You never shut up."
[25:05]

The conversation reflects on how coaches' abilities to handle pressure and maintain team morale contribute significantly to their legacies.

6. The Pitch Clock: Baseball Trivia and Analysis

In the latter half of the episode, the hosts engage in "The Pitch Clock," a two-part baseball segment combining trivia and expert analysis. Hosted by Mike Ryan with participation from Billy Corben, Greg Cote, Juju, Rebecca, and Taylor, the segment features a lively trivia game focusing on All-Star Game MVPs from 1990 to 2009.

Mike Ryan:
"Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch. A two-part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert."
[27:11]

Highlights from the Trivia Game:

• Participants grapple with questions about specific MVPs, showcasing their knowledge and competitive spirit.
• Notable Moments:
  • Billy Corben successfully identifies Garrett Anderson as the 2003 Red Sox All-Star MVP.
    "It is Garrett Anderson."
    [34:54]
  • Mike Ryan struggles with identifying certain MVPs, leading to lighthearted banter and humorous exchanges.
    "This is one where a lifeline would have helped."
    [43:04]

7. Predictions and Season Outlook

Post-trivia, the hosts and guests share their predictions for the remainder of the baseball season, including potential postseason races and MVP contenders.

Dan LeBatard:
"My prediction is that the Red Sox win the pennant and they end up facing the big, bad Dodgers. It's such a horrible pick."
[40:05]

Mike Ryan:
"He's going to make the guess that first came to mind. And it might be wrong. It might end up being a name we've used a lot here."
[41:29]

The segment concludes with insights into team performance, player statistics, and strategic moves expected at the trade deadline.

Key Takeaways

• Frogging: An alarming yet intriguing phenomenon where individuals clandestinely reside within others' homes, discussed with both concern and speculative humor about its portrayal and potential reality TV adaptation.

• Coaching Debates: In-depth discussions on the legacies of college football coaches Brian Kelly and Ryan Day, examining their successes, challenges, and the expectations placed upon them to secure championships.

• Baseball Insights: An engaging trivia segment that not only tests the hosts' knowledge but also provides expert analysis on current baseball standings, notable players, and upcoming season highlights.

Notable Quotes:

• Greg Cote on Frogging:
  "It is the act of living inside the home of others without them knowing you're living there."
  [02:24]

• David Samson on Human Behavior:
  "Safe to say that people are inventing new ways to please themselves."
  [04:10]

• Dan LeBatard on Red Sox Prediction:
  "My prediction is that the Red Sox win the pennant and they end up facing the big, bad Dodgers."
  [40:05]

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz skillfully weaves together unconventional topics like frogging with in-depth sports analysis, providing listeners with both entertainment and thoughtful commentary.