Hour 2: Roncula Returns (feat. Ron Magill)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 2: Roncula Returns (feat. Ron Magill) – September 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively hour from the Elser Hotel features Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the full crew, highlighted by their beloved animal expert, Ron Magill. Together, they riff on quirky animal behavior, pet questions from listeners, the passing of a lion at Zoo Miami, and the oddities of public embarrassment. The group maintains their signature banter, combines humor with curiosity, and blends sports with offbeat conversation—delivering another classic mix of informative and ridiculous.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ron Magill on Service Dogs and Pet Farting

• Service Dog on a Plane

  • Zach recounts a story about sitting next to a farting service dog on a flight and being more comfortable knowing it was the dog, not a human (01:43).
  • Ron Magill explains the anxiety dogs may experience on planes, leading to flatulence, and jokes about how convenient it is for owners to blame dogs for their own odors:

    “That’s a great cop out when the owner is going, ‘Oh geez, I gotta let one go here. But I’m blaming it on the dog. That’s why I bring the dog with me, because I’m a gas producing machine. But I can always blame it on the dog.’” (02:34)

  • The crew questions the legitimacy of some service dogs, with Ron noting abuses in the system and the ease of obtaining a “service animal” vest (03:02–04:06).

• Unconventional Urination Habits in Dogs

  • Greg Cody asks if it's weird that his male dog sometimes squats to pee (04:06).
  • Ron Magill assures him:

    “No, it’s not unusual… If he wants to hit something that’s directly below him on the ground, there’s no need for him to lift his leg.” (04:30)

  • Ron explains urination is used for marking territory, and different postures have practical functions even in wild canines.

• Do All Animals Fart?

  • Tony asks if cats fart, to which Ron quips, “Mammals will pass gas.” (05:43)
  • The crew jokes about Greg Cody claiming to have “given up farting,” which Ron finds impossible and possibly unhealthy (05:51–06:24).

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2. South Florida Homeowner Animal & Pest Problems

• Rains Bring Critters Indoors

  • The Miami rainy season leads to snakes and, more commonly for Chris, a cockroach invasion (06:40–07:47).
  • Chris floats the idea of leaving cockroach carcasses as a warning to others.
  • Ron Magill dismisses this tactic:

    “They’re not that necessarily intelligent of a being to make that kind of synopsis. They might look at it like, okay, that’s all right. There’s more food for me now.” (07:57)

  • Ron mentions this method does work for other animals:

    “For other things like vultures... They’ll hang a dead vulture as an effigy... and the vultures stay away. When they see the dead vulture, they’re going, ‘Nope.’” (08:18)

• Pepper as a Bird Feeder Repellent?

  • Lewis wonders if pepper truly doesn’t impact birds but repels rats.
  • Ron cautions:

    “I wouldn’t trust Google and everything. That’s a big mistake that I think we make, is we trust everything we see on the Internet.” (09:55)

  • He notes that there may be some pulmonary issues for certain birds, but he’s not sure.

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3. Bizarre Animal Encounters & Viral Videos

• The group shares a video of a crab riding a jellyfish, asking for Ron’s verdict on its authenticity (10:01–10:27):
  • Ron Magill is hoodwinked by AI skepticism:

    “That’s the first time I’ve ever seen that… The way AI is today, this could be fake. I don’t know what to believe anymore because it’s so good.” (10:10)

• Lewis pitches an “Air Zoo” filled with any animal or AI hybrid they can imagine. Ron is game:

  “Yeah, I’d have some fun with that.” (10:55)

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4. Zoo Miami Lion: Loss, Grief, and Future

• Greg Cody prompts Ron to talk about Kwame, Zoo Miami’s last lion, who recently passed away (11:27–12:24).
  • Ron explains the process of getting new lions through the Species Survival Plan and expects two new young males in months:

    “They’ve got two males lined up… A stud bookkeeper… looks and sees what animals can go where. I’m hoping they’re going to be here within the next one to two months.” (11:53)

  • Greg attempts to plug his book, with Tony joking about the opportunistic segue (11:42).
  • Ron confirms Kwame’s natural death at age 18 (12:24).

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5. More Animal Behavior Questions

• Zach runs a video showing an elk (actually a deer, as Ron corrects him) making an alarm call by snorting out cold air (13:01–13:15).

  • Ron details the intimidating, stomping, and “barking” alarm call behavior in deer.

• The crew triggers Ron’s ire with a video of someone feeding an alligator—Ron warns:

  “It’s against the law… that alligator now is associating people with food. Somebody’s going to come there one day and not have a piece of bread or whatever crap that guy’s throwing… and the alligator is going to bite the person.” (13:50–14:16)

  • “This guy is an idiot. I hope he falls in.” (14:17)
  • Ron explains such behavior leads to nuisance alligators being killed, not due to fault of the animal.

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6. Roncula (Rocula) Returns!

• Ron announces the return of his notorious Halloween alter ego, Rocula (Roncula), for a wild adult party at the zoo (15:06–15:13).
  • “Let me tell you, that's a party. That is a party... Sometimes you see the real person.” (15:08)
  • Roasts a previous attendee whose only costume was Saran Wrap.

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7. Top 5 Most Embarrassing Things to Do in Public

Chris leads the countdown with input from the group (23:05–28:00):

1. Tying shoes in public
2. Tripping on stairs/ escalators in public
   • Chris details a harrowing, humiliating escalator incident (29:29).
3. Greeting someone who's greeting someone behind you
4. Running for, and missing, a closing door (train/elevator)
5. Being thrown by public transportation braking

• Notable banter:
  • Zach: “I don’t do... I’m not trying to impress anybody. I’m trying to have this elevator myself.” (25:57)
  • Billy claims he was once arrested for tying his shoes in public--a sarcastic, embellished story (28:01).
  • Chris: “Don’t tie your shoe in public. It’s very embarrassing.” (27:46)

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8. Quarterback Clutch-ness and Baker Mayfield’s Resurgence

From (35:56) onward, the conversation pivots to football:

• Billy lays out how much draft capital and money Cleveland and Carolina spent to replace Baker Mayfield versus his apparent value now in Tampa.
• “How was any of that possible? Explain it to me. Because the Bucs have now won the division four straight times. He’s the only quarterback we’ve seen at the end of games both games this season, right at the End. He’s winning it. Yeah, it’s very much him.” (35:56)
• The panel ranks current quarterbacks for clutch moments, with consensus that Baker’s name is now alongside the likes of Burrow and Josh Allen.
• Dan, Greg, Zach, and others debate the small handful of QBs truly feared in two-minute, game-winning situations.

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Notable Quotes & Exchanges

• Ron Magill on owner blaming farts on dogs:

  “That’s a great cop out... That’s why I bring the dog with me, because I’m a gas producing machine. But I can always blame it on the dog.” (02:34)

• Ron on cockroach deterrents:

  “They’re not that necessarily intelligent of a being to make that kind of synopsis. They might look at it like, okay, that’s all right. There’s more food for me now.” (07:57)

• On vultures' effigy avoidance:

  “They know. Animals like a vulture will pick that up. And that is a common practice… You’d be surprised how it keeps the other vultures away.” (08:36)

• Ron, furiously, on feeding alligators:

  “It’s against the law, first of all...This guy is an idiot. I hope he falls in.” (13:50, 14:17)

• On Roncula’s return:

  “That party is decadence exponential… You see the real person.” (15:08)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:43 – Ron Magill joins + service dog flight fart story
• 04:06 – Unusual dog urination
• 05:43 – Do all animals fart?
• 06:40 – Rain, snakes, and cockroach invasions
• 07:57 – Cockroaches and dead roach “warnings”
• 08:18 – Vultures stay away from vulture effigies
• 09:10 – Pepper and bird feeder pests
• 10:01 – Crab riding jellyfish: AI or not?
• 11:27 – Zoo Miami’s last lion has died, Ron explains
• 13:01 – Deer alarm calls; Ron animal behavior
• 13:50 – Video of guy feeding an alligator: Ron’s rant
• 15:06 – Ron announces the return of Rocula party
• 23:05–28:00 – Top 5 most embarrassing things to do in public
• 35:56–41:00 – Baker Mayfield and the “clutch QB” debate

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Memorable Moments

• Greg Cody trying to use a lion’s death to plug his book (11:42).
• Banter about public transportation mishaps, awkward elevator etiquette, and tying shoes in public.
• Billy claims to have been arrested for public shoe-tying.
• Ron’s unfiltered joy and trepidation about Roncula’s decadent zoo party.

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Tone

• Warm, irreverent, and rapid-fire
• Typical blend of earnest curiosity, expertise (Ron), with a running undercurrent of self-deprecating humor and sharp back-and-forths.
• Mix of educational animal facts and lighthearted observational humor.

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In Summary

This hour is a trademark Le Batard stew of listener curiosity, Ron Magill’s animal knowledge, sports debate, and the group’s hilarious experience-sharing—from biologically questionable dog urination to the totally unique insanities of Miami. There’s both real sadness (the passing of Zoo Miami’s lion) and peak absurdity (embarrassing public moments, the potential return of Roncula). The episode shines in the way only this show can—smart, silly, human.

Transcript

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[Ron Magill]

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[Zach]

All right, so Ron McGill, of course, joins us here and hey Ron, how you doing? First of all, you doing all right?

[Ron Magill]

I'm doing great. How are you doing?

[Zach]

Good. So, all right, help me out here on, on my flight this weekend. All right? You know, for, for college football, I fly around with ESPN radio and there was a service dog that was sitting in my row on the flight, I got no problem with the dogs flying. I like dogs. And the dog was farting, though, throughout the flight, which, which, which once I found out that it was the dog that was farting because the owner was like super apologetic. But once I found out it was the dog and not a human farting, I was okay with it. The smell didn't bother me as much, but my question is like, is that common for a dog when they're like, was the dog nervous and that's why he was farting on the flight.

[Ron Magill]

It could have been. How do you, how are you 100% sure it was the dog?

[Tony]

That's what we said, Ron. It sounds like it's the owner.

[Ron Magill]

That's a great cop out when the owner is going, oh, geez, I got to let one go here. But I'm blaming on the dog. That's why I bring the dog with me, because I'm a gas producing machine. But I can always blame it on the dog.

[Greg Cody]

There you go. I've done that.

[Zach]

You know, I see because I, because I fly a lot, I see these service dogs all the time. But I feel like, like, Ron, when someone's on the flight with a Shih Tzu that's wearing the service dog vest, like, that's not a service dog. Right? Isn't it only like, certain breeds are service dogs?

[Ron Magill]

Yes and no. I mean, the bottom line is a service dog can be designated as an animal that is necessary to maintain the patience or whatever. You're the owner's, you know, state of mind. It's a sense. It's a psychologically, psychological necessity. Now, having said that, I think there are a lot of people that abuse that opportunity. I know for a fact, you know, that there are some, you know, some of these psychologists, you know, write them a check, they'll write you a note. And you know, they do that for a couple of reasons. First of all, they don't want to put their dog in the belly of the plane. I can understand that. And second of all, they don't want to pay that extra money to put the dog in the belly of the plane. So that becomes an issue. And I think that's going to come to a head sometime in the future. Again, these service dogs in the right situation are very important. They play a very important role. But then you've got those people who are abusers and just will say anything just to get the fake patch you can get on the Internet and say, is my service dog. Now, fortunately, airlines are starting to require letters from doctors, psychologists and such. But then on the flip side, you got some of these doctors and psychologists say, oh, yeah, you look nervous. Okay, here's a dog.

[Greg Cody]

Ron. I want to stick with dog for just a second. And I've been meaning to ask you this for a long time. My dog Jumping Charlie goes in the backyard to do his business. Okay, It's a male dog because I know that name can be either. Half the time he lifts his leg to pee like most male dogs do. And about Half the time he squats on all fours and pees like most female dogs do. Is that unusual that a dog might pee both ways?

[Ron Magill]

No, it's not unusual, especially if the dog is specifically trying to remember. They use their urine as a marker, as a territorial marker. If he wants to hit something that's directly below him on the ground, there's no need for him to lift his leg. That's what he's going to do. If he's trying to get a fence post or he's trying to get along a fence line or a tree or, you know, a trunk or something like.

[Tony]

That, he'll lift his leg for aiming purposes.

[Ron Magill]

An aiming purpose. It's an aiming purpose that a lot of the dogs do it for.

[Greg Cody]

And in the wild do, do males tend to lift their legs and females not like, like canine, like pet dogs? Or is that different in the wild with, like, lions or other?

[Ron Magill]

It's the same. It's the same. You know, you look at painted dogs, you look at wolves, they. The males again, most females, when they urinate, unless they're in cycle, they urinate a great volume all at once and they're done. Males will usually urinate in squirts and, you know, small spurts because they're trying to mark the territory. They got to make sure they've always got a calling card in the hut, so to speak.

[Zach]

Ron, I have two male dogs. Neither of them pee with their leg up. That's weird, right?

[Ron Magill]

Not necessarily. I had a dog that did the same thing. We used to make fun of him that way, you know, whatever.

[Greg Cody]

Wow. I thought it was weird. I guess.

[Zach]

I think it's. I think it's weird.

[Tony]

Ron, do cats fart all animals.

[Ron Magill]

Mammals will pass gas. I don't.

[Tony]

I don't see cats fart a lot.

[Lewis]

Greg actually told us, Ron, that he stopped farting.

[Zach]

Gave it up.

[Greg Cody]

I did give it up. Yeah.

[Tony]

That and cigars, right?

[Greg Cody]

I don't like to brag. Believe me, stopping farting is nothing to brag about. Trust me.

[Tony]

Your stomach must be in shambles because, like, if you hold a fart in, doesn't that, like, kind of hurt your stomach?

[Zach]

You're never like, damn, I wish I didn't give up farting. I could really use one right now.

[Greg Cody]

No, I, I miss cigars more than I miss far. Wow, I gotta.

[Ron Magill]

I don't know how you give that up. I, you know, I found as a younger guy, I've never really had the urge to do that, but as I've gotten older. Yeah, it's it's some of those things that everyone. Every now and then you gotta let one go.

[Tony]

Pleasures, right?

[Greg Cody]

Tough. You got to work on it, man. You got to work on it.

[Ron Magill]

I don't know. I think that's keeping some nauseous gases in your system that's gonna make you either burp something nasty or it's going to come out somewhere, brother. And I don't want to.

[Tony]

Is that why you say Brad when.

[Greg Cody]

You burp, you know what it could be? I never thought that's a thing, Zaz.

[Chris]

Good point, Ron. In the, in the rainy season now, in Miami, where it's kind of raining every single day, critters make their way into our houses. Is that, is that a fair thing to say?

[Ron Magill]

Absolutely. Calls all the time. Especially things like these little ring neck snakes, you know, small snake that's common throughout south Florida. I've got people call me. I thought it was a word, but it's a state. Ring necks are notorious for that because they're normal. They're normally subterranean. They'll go under the ground quite a bit. They're feeding on things like worms and insects. But when they get flooded out, they're all. Everything is looking for higher land. And those guys can kind of make their way under doorstops and things like that. That's what they end up in people's house houses.

[Chris]

A lot of my issue is this. There's been, in this house that I'm renting, there's been a lot of cockroaches that start fighting their way into my house. And the last like two weeks, we've killed a very high amount of cockroaches. Right. What I've thought of, and I wanted to ask you the question. If I were to place cockroach carcasses throughout specific areas of the house, why would that not let other cockroach cockroaches know, hey, wait a second. We are not welcome here.

[Zach]

Why do you have a hard time saying cockroach?

[Chris]

Because it's. I don't know.

[Greg Cody]

Look who got Acha.

[Chris]

Thank you.

[Ron Magill]

Roaches.

[Zach]

There you go.

[Chris]

Why, why does that not work?

[Ron Magill]

Because they're not that necessarily intelligent of a being to make that kind of synopsis. They might look at it like, okay, that's all right. There's more food for me now.

[Tony]

That's what I want.

[Ron Magill]

I want you to.

[Tony]

What do you imagine a cockroach thinks.

[Chris]

When, like dead cockroaches? He's like, oh, wow.

[Ron Magill]

I don't, I don't. I don't think cockroaches Think that much. I think that's where we have the.

[Tony]

He's like, oh, he's taking a nap.

[Ron Magill]

That's a spot for now, now that, that, you know, you might be making fun of this tactic, but that t works for other things like vultures. They use vultures, a dead vulture as an effigy. They'll hang a dead vulture in a place where vultures will come, you know, and cause all kinds of problems. And the vultures stay away. When they see the dead vulture, they're going.

[Chris]

So they know.

[Ron Magill]

They know. Yeah. Animals like a vulture will pick that up. And that is a common practice when vultures create a problem in any given area. They'll hang an effigy. Now you have to get a permit to do it, but you can get the permit and hang the dead vulture. And you'd be surprised how it keeps the other vultures away.

[Lewis]

Who do you call to do that? Hey, like for a dead vulture permit.

[Ron Magill]

Fish and Wildlife and United States Department of Agriculture.

[Chris]

Okay, wow.

[Lewis]

Ron, I think we've talked about this before, but I just want to double check. Pepper does not negatively impact birds, Correct?

[Ron Magill]

It depends on the bird.

[Lewis]

Oh, no. What birds are negatively impacted by pepper? Because I was reading, I've told you before that I have a little bird feeder and what ended up happening is that a rat got attracted to the bird food and came and started eating the bird food in the bird feeder. And then we had to explain to my daughters, that's not a bird in your bird feeder, that's a rat. And we don't want that there. And then I googled and it said, just put some pepper. And the rats will not like the smell or taste of the pepper and they won't go there anymore. But it doesn't affect the birds, so the birds will continue to eat there. But now you're kind of making me second guess.

[Ron Magill]

I'm not sure. I think there's there. There might be some pulmonary issues with some burrs and pepper. I'm not sure. I don't want to say because I'm not sure.

[Lewis]

Okay, so I'm just going to keep business as usual and trust Google AI on this one.

[Ron Magill]

I wouldn't trust Google and everything. Guys, that's a big mistake that I think we make is we trust everything we see on the Internet.

[Tony]

Ron, I want you to walk us through what I'm looking at here. Now, I believe this is a crab riding a jellyfish. If you could do a little play by play for us here. How common is this?

[Ron Magill]

That's the first time I've ever seen that. Pretty cool. I again. You know, I gotta tell you something, guys. The way AI is today, this could be fake. Yeah, I don't know what to believe anymore because it's so good. It's so good.

[Tony]

Lewis just said in my ear, this is not A.I.

[Lewis]

Oh, well, Lewis said it, so.

[Ron Magill]

Okay. I've never seen that before, so it's obviously very unique. Pretty cool shot.

[Lewis]

Ron, I have a pitch for you based on that video that we just saw and your reluctance to trust the Internet. What if we go into business, all of us here, everyone in this room, no one else is allowed in. Just all of us together and we open the first air zoo. And you could literally have anything that you want in the air zoo. Any animal, any hybrid, anything you want. They can do whatever you want. You in?

[Ron Magill]

Yeah, I have some fun with that.

[Lewis]

All right, what if we have some ligers? They're AI Ligers. So I know that you don't like ligers in general, but if they're fake ligers, do you like that?

[Ron Magill]

Let's. Let's put. Let's. Let's put, you know, Tasmanian tigers in there too. Let's put some extinct animals in there. We can have some fun with this.

[Zach]

Ron, what's the difference between jellyfish and Man O war?

[Ron Magill]

They're all the same. It's the same type of. It's invertebrates, whatever. I'm not this marine expert, but they're all in the same grouping of animals. Jellyfish and manowar. Manowar is a type of jellyfish.

[Greg Cody]

Ron, have you discussed Kwame passing away?

[Ron Magill]

I have.

[Greg Cody]

Not that obviously interests us because we collaborated on the pride of a lion and Kwame. Kwame was mentioned in that book and he just passed away. And now that.

[Tony]

Did you just use death to plug your book?

[Greg Cody]

That was Zoo Miami's last lion. And I know that hit you pretty hard. When are you going to get another lion? Because I assume you want one badly.

[Ron Magill]

Oh, yeah, no, they're bringing in. Supposedly they've got two males lined up and it's just a matter of when they can get them here. It's, you know, we have to go by the recommendation of what's called the ssp it's called a Species Survival Plan, which is kind of a computer dating service, so to speak, managed by the association of Zoos and Aquariums. So you have a stud bookkeeper who looks and sees. Okay, what animals can go where they tell us. And I think they pretty much designated two males, two young males to Come this way. I'm hoping they're going to be here within the next one to two months. That's right there. That's a photograph I took of Kwame.

[Greg Cody]

That's a beautiful lion. And he passed away naturally, right? He was like 18, right?

[Ron Magill]

He was 18. He died. Well, actually, he passed away the day before his 18th birthday. Oh, wow.

[Tony]

And what lions, like lionesses, do you currently have? And what would. Oh, there's no lions, period.

[Ron Magill]

No lions.

[Tony]

Oh, apologies. I thought maybe you had a couple and you had to kind of figure out how to.

[Ron Magill]

No, the cop is. Once we bring those two males in here, they'll also designate some females to bring in. Hopefully we can get another pride established.

[Lewis]

Hell, yeah.

[Zach]

Ron, got another video here for you. So this is going to be that there's an elk and it's, you know, doing its thing in the forest here. Let's check it out.

[Ron Magill]

That's a deer. It's not an elk. But that's okay either way.

[Lewis]

You're on a roll today, Zaz.

[Ron Magill]

Oh, yeah. That's an alarm call. That's an alarm call.

[Tony]

He seems to be doing like a triple H. Blowing water out of his nose.

[Ron Magill]

No, that's just a breath. It's a very cold morning.

[Zach]

Is it coming out of his ears?

[Ron Magill]

No, it's coming out of his nostrils. Coming out of his nostrils. He's alarm calling. And you see as he's breathing, that's just this. And when he blows out that hot air, you get that. That. That beautiful visual, that smoke coming out of his nose.

[Zach]

That's scares.

[Tony]

So that was intimidation.

[Ron Magill]

That's intimidation. And again, it's an alarm call. And usually they accompany that with a. They'll stomp their feet, too. They'll hit the ground with their feet. No, they'll. Sometimes they even bark. They make a hoo hoo. They bark when they do that.

[Tony]

Now, this last video will just get Ron mad, which we like to do around here. Here's some guy seemingly feeding an alligator. Being really reckless is something I assume we do not want to do.

[Ron Magill]

Oh, yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Okay. It's against the law, first of all. It's not something we don't want to do. It's not. It's something that's against the law. Because what you're doing is that alligator now is associating people with food. And somebody's going to come there one day and not have a piece of bread or whatever crap that guy's throwing in the alligator's mouth. And the alligator Is going to bite the person, thinking, oh, I thought it was bread. Not thinking I was going to eat the person or anything. But he's been conditioned now to come up to people this way. This guy is an idiot.

[Greg Cody]

So ridiculous.

[Ron Magill]

I hope he falls in.

[Zach]

Ron, I see you don't like it.

[Greg Cody]

You got that idea.

[Zach]

So it makes you mad, Ron, not because. So it's not just. It's not because like the food or anything is bad for the alligator. It's because it's a danger to people.

[Ron Magill]

Exactly. It makes me mad because one day that alligator may have a conflict with a person who's not the idiot leaning over the boat feeding or something. Bite the person. And what happens? Fish. And while that's got to go, round up this alligator and kill it because it did something that was basically trained by another idiot.

[Lewis]

I mean, in fairness, we did take the alligator's land.

[Ron Magill]

You know, Billy, sometimes, just sometimes. Look. I love the look, Billy. That's a good look.

[Lewis]

The alligators not there first. I mean, we did.

[Greg Cody]

I mean.

[Ron Magill]

Hi. All right, Ron.

[Lewis]

It's almost Rocula season, huh?

[Ron Magill]

Rocula's coming, guys, let me tell you, that's a party. That is a party.

[Chris]

I thought you retired him.

[Ron Magill]

I did retire him, but they gave me an offer I can't refuse. I'm bringing them back. And that party, for no other reason, guys, that party is decadence. Exponential. Okay, you guys, let me tell you something. It's 21 and older, and you know, people get freaky when they go into costume. They think they could be someone else. And sometimes you see the real person. And I'm telling you, we had a guy come one year wrapped in Saran Wrap. That was it. Just wrapped in Saran Wrap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we got. We got the women who come who just sometimes think that, you know, it's. It's really. It's a wild time at the zoo. I like the party. The party. And since I don't drink, it's some of the best people watching on the planet.

[Zach]

Ron, great job as always. Appreciate you.

[Ron Magill]

All right, guys, have a great week.

[Lewis]

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[Greg Cody]

Don LeBatard the elephant went into a 711 and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this Stugats.

[Billy Gil]

That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to. We all just stared at it all.

[Ron Magill]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Foreign.

[Chris]

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[Billy Gil]

It was so good. Can hear it.

[Ron Magill]

Yeah.

[Chris]

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[Ron Magill]

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[Chris]

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[Billy Gil]

Sean McVay said earlier and we were making fun of it, he segued seamlessly from that guy has a broken clavicle to what a stop on third down. And I felt like Greg Cody honored him by saying, hey Ron, you're lying. One of the favorites 18 year relationship died. When's the next one? Are you getting another one? Like you didn't ask him a single thing about his feelings about the star of Pride of a Lion dying. You just went to when and how are you going to replace him?

[Tony]

Wanted to plug the book.

[Greg Cody]

Well, a minor correction. The Pride of a Lion is about the son of a lion named Quasi. They have similar names. Quasi is what the Pride of a Lion is about. Kwame was the father and it was the last animal at the zoo. He was 18 years old. So they euthanized him because he was suffering and they expected the loss.

[Billy Gil]

So again though his feelings would, I think his feelings about a relationship with an animal at the zoo that he's had for 20 years. You could have asked him about his feelings before just saying when's the next one? How are replacing him? How did you, you didn't ask him a single feeling he had?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, no, I didn't. I wrote the book on that. So I didn't feel the need to ask him. But I will say this zoo Miami is about to get two new young male lions. So that's exciting because it means they're going to bring in a female, they're going to start a whole new pride. They going to be going to be. Damn right they are. It's going to be fun.

[Zach]

She aggressive.

[Lewis]

I mean we also are assuming Greg didn't reach out when he heard the news privately. Leader Ron and they didn't, you know, have maybe a sit down where they talked about this because the zoo now has lost two lions in the past couple of months, which is why at presently there there are no lions there. In fact, when you walk by where the lions were, it's very sad. They took down the sign that says here's where the lions are and all that stuff. It just says, you Know no one's here right now and it's, you know, you could tell. Little overrun by grass. It's a sad situation.

[Greg Cody]

I mean, you ain't lying.

[Lewis]

Oh yeah.

[Greg Cody]

But you know, Ron and I may have had like a. An emotional sit down or I may have texted him real quick.

[Billy Gil]

Tony, that is a very embarrassing stain that you walked in here with today. What happened?

[Chris]

Look, I mean, where'd you stain? I got a stain like right here.

[Tony]

You see it? Oh, crotch region.

[Chris]

Yeah. So here's the issue. Sometimes when you're washing clothes and you put stuff together and you're using the. The detergent, sometimes like detergent stain stuff, which I don't weird understand why that happens. If I'm putting it in there so you can clean other stains, why do you appear with another stain after it's cle. So late. Late night, early morning. With the baby. Baby woke up at one o' clock in the morning screaming her face off. Okay. She's got four teeth popping out at the same time.

[Tony]

So your baby babied.

[Greg Cody]

Baby, baby.

[Chris]

But she usually babies at like 8 or 9 when you're gone at like 5 in the morning, right? So like that's when she babies. Promise. When you baby at 1:30 in the morning, Poppy's got to pick her up. Bobby's got to take her to the nursery. Bobby's got a rocker, 240. All of a sudden, she finally falls asleep. I bring her back down. I gotta sleep for a couple more hours. So when I wake up tired, right, I just go to my drawer, I kind of pick up the first couple things. This shirt, these shorts or these, you know, joggers. And I get on the train not thinking about a thing, and I see kind of people give me a couple weird looks and I'm like, okay, no, maybe the shirt. They don't like the shirt.

[Ron Magill]

Okay.

[Chris]

Sponsored by the haters.

[Tony]

Maybe they are haters.

[Chris]

Maybe they're haters, right? Exactly. I'm like, okay, thank you for sponsoring me. So I sit down and I look at my. At my crotch. Cause obviously I'm sitting down in the seat.

[Tony]

Let me see that thing.

[Lewis]

So this happened from you, Washington?

[Chris]

Yeah. Like the detergent.

[Lewis]

Why do you wash your pants with semen?

[Tony]

Let me get a look at this.

[Billy Gil]

Oh.

[Chris]

It creates the implication, Dan does, that there was a massive situation, a.

[Billy Gil]

Bad look as Greg Cody, like prior.

[Chris]

To me getting onto the train with a lot of people. Do you see it, Chris?

[Billy Gil]

Well, that brings us seamlessly to top five embarrassing things to do in public, which I'm sure that Tony would have.

[Chris]

This actually isn't on the list, funny enough.

[Billy Gil]

Well, it's an Oli.

[Tony]

It looks like something that would happen at the Roncula party.

[Lewis]

Chauncey swallows.

[Chris]

You know, I thought he was gonna retire that Dan. What happened? Did you have intel that he was unretiring Roncula?

[Billy Gil]

I didn't know that was broken news on this show. I was not aware. I was not aware that Ron Killer was making the lecherous Dracula character that Ron brings out every Halloween. I was not aware that that was being unwritten.

[Tony]

I've got it every other week.

[Billy Gil]

What do you have there for top five? Is it Oli or just a straight top five?

[Chris]

Yeah, there is two Olis.

[Billy Gil]

All right. These are top five embarrassing things.

[Chris]

Embarrassing things to happen in public with other people watching you.

[Billy Gil]

All right, Oli.

[Chris]

Oh, a lie. Getting umbrella flipped on you in the middle of the rain. You know when there's wind and the.

[Zach]

Umbrella gets flipped up and you're like, so stupid.

[Ron Magill]

You're like, come on, I'm getting wet.

[Zach]

Stupid idiot.

[Chris]

People are driving by in their car. You're in the rain and they're laughing at you because the umbrella slipped.

[Billy Gil]

Correct?

[Ron Magill]

Yes.

[Chris]

Stupid. Dan. I think this one may. May hit home a little bit. Ola number two, Asking your barber to trim your eyebrows.

[Greg Cody]

Whoa.

[Billy Gil]

Why would that hit home?

[Chris]

I'm just saying, I broad guy, you know, I also have thicker eyebrows. And it's like you're at the barbershop and it's like, hey, you did my hair great. Everything's looking good, by the way. Can you trim my eyebrows?

[Zach]

It's like, oh, you gotta whisper it.

[Billy Gil]

Out of the side.

[Chris]

People turn around like, what?

[Ron Magill]

What?

[Billy Gil]

You got an out of control eyebrows.

[Zach]

The dude's waiting for the chair. They're like, oh, get out of here.

[Billy Gil]

Trim is what? Number five.

[Chris]

Number five. Being thrown in a public transportation vehicle on a bus or a train. When you're standing there and they break suddenly and then you get kind of flung. You can't, you can't get the respect of other people on the train like that.

[Zach]

You gotta. I, I make sure whenever I'm in the Atlanta airport because they got like the, the people mover there. I make sure my. I'm, I'm positioned, planted, I'm ready for my feet.

[Tony]

I start doing the math.

[Zach]

I'm like, which way are we going? I got good leverage.

[Ron Magill]

Which way am I to fall?

[Chris]

You gotta go a good base on that. Some people have too narrow of a base.

[Zach]

Everybody knows that about me. I got good Base.

[Chris]

Good.

[Greg Cody]

I have a wide base.

[Chris]

Exactly right. So getting thrown by a. By a public transport vehicle with other people watching. Very embarrassing. Are we on number four or five?

[Billy Gil]

That was number five.

[Chris]

Okay, number four.

[Billy Gil]

Listen, why would I know what we're on instead of you?

[Chris]

You keep track of those things. I like that. All right, number four, running towards a closing door. Train elevator door of any kind. You're there like, wait, wait, hold on. And the door closed. And you're like, oh, yes. And then people behind you like, I. I didn't run. Why did you run as weird.

[Tony]

I never feel like a better person than when someone's coming for the elevator. I got you. And I put my hand in front.

[Zach]

I don't ever do that.

[Tony]

I see you.

[Billy Gil]

What?

[Tony]

And I stop the door.

[Zach]

I don't ever do that. I actually go toward the buttons where they can't see me, and I press the door closed.

[Tony]

Oh, no. Don't get me wrong.

[Zach]

I don't want more people in the. I want to be by myself. No, I'm with the door closed.

[Greg Cody]

The.

[Tony]

Like, the ultimate is walking in and not making eye. Eye contact with anyone. But if you make eye contact, I will do that.

[Zach]

No, no, they can't see me. I go. I press door close.

[Chris]

How about the fake arm where you don't get it just far enough because you're a little too far?

[Tony]

I've tried that.

[Billy Gil]

I've done that.

[Zach]

I don't do. I'm not trying to impress anybody. I'm trying to have this elevator myself.

[Tony]

But, Zaz, you're a rising star in sports media.

[Zach]

That's right. I'm trying to ride in that elevator alone.

[Tony]

I am with Zaz, though. Like, if you do get in that elevator alone, you hit closed door right away.

[Billy Gil]

Yep.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah, that's for sure.

[Billy Gil]

Put it on the poll at Levitard show. As the door closes on the elevator, do you put a handout to help the person who's approaching? Do you pretend to put a hand out with the intention of allowing or.

[Tony]

Never look up to close?

[Billy Gil]

Or do you just let the door.

[Zach]

My elevator.

[Billy Gil]

It's a great question.

[Chris]

Do we have any runners here to doors of elevators or any other kind?

[Billy Gil]

Number three, I have had the elevator in my building has been down for six weeks. I have to go.

[Zach]

How do you get up to 94?

[Billy Gil]

Every time I walk the dog, I am getting worn out.

[Tony]

Expensive.

[Greg Cody]

Billing too much.

[Lewis]

That's all right with the HOA money there.

[Ron Magill]

Yeah.

[Chris]

Seriously. Number two, greeting someone. Who's greeting someone behind you. Not you.

[Billy Gil]

I think.

[Ron Magill]

Number three.

[Billy Gil]

I don't know who's keeping track, you or me, but I think you skipped.

[Chris]

Okay, you're keeping track. All right. Number three, greeting somebody. Who's greeting you, but they're greeting somebody behind you, so you. Number two.

[Tony]

Yeah, that was two and three.

[Chris]

Number two, tripping on stairs in public. Embarrassing. I know you're going up the stairs.

[Greg Cody]

And then you always look behind you, like, what tripped me?

[Tony]

Number two, screwing up your own top five list.

[Billy Gil]

Number one.

[Chris]

Number one, tying your shoes in public. Embarrassing. I didn't tie my shoes right the first time. I gotta tie them again. Now I'm stopping everybody who's walking on the sidewalk so I can tie my shoe.

[Greg Cody]

Grow up.

[Billy Gil]

Grow up.

[Chris]

Don't tie your shoes in public. I don't wanna see anybody ever tie.

[Billy Gil]

Their shoe in public. What if it gets untied, though?

[Chris]

Then you walk until you sit down somewhere else. Do not tie your shoe in public. It's very embarrassing.

[Billy Gil]

Strange.

[Ron Magill]

Number one.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I disagree with that. I enjoy tying my shoe in public because it tells other people. Look at that.

[Tony]

That guy knows that I have a nominee.

[Billy Gil]

That guy knows that I got arrested for that. It's the only time I've been arrested.

[Chris]

You want people to tie their shoes in public? Dan Lebatard.

[Lewis]

Okay, I don't think that happened.

[Billy Gil]

It did happen.

[Lewis]

You did not get arrested for tying your shoes.

[Billy Gil]

It did happen. This is what happened. It's a true story. It's the only time I've been arrested. It's. It's this and sarcasm. It's a true story.

[Lewis]

So two times you've been arrested?

[Billy Gil]

No, it's the one time. The one time had some sarcasm in it while I was tying my shoe and I got arrested for it.

[Lewis]

The cop said, you got to do bunny ears. And you loop, swoop, and pulled it. And he's like, not on my watch. Straight to the. Straight to the clink.

[Greg Cody]

Cops don't like sarcasm.

[Billy Gil]

My friends were getting kicked out of a Johnny Rockets as I was arriving. As they were being kicked out, I noticed that my shoe was untied. I did not take Tony's advice. I stopped, bent down, and tied my shoe. The police officer thought I was being defiant and kicked me in the back. And I got up and congratulated him for being the person in crime ridden Miami who protects the condiments at Johnny Rockets. And that's where I got arrested. And then he condescending. He waved. Yeah, more sarcasm. I'm in the backseat. They're very tight in the back. Seat. I got the plastic cuffs on me, and he's showing me the police report, holding it up against the window, saying, what about now, smart guy? How smart are you now? And I'm like, you don't spell John Doe with a W. He had spelled. He spelled it John Dow, as he was, because I wouldn't give him my name. It's a true story, but I got.

[Chris]

Arrested for tying your shoes.

[Billy Gil]

For tying my shoes.

[Chris]

Don't do it in public.

[Tony]

My nominee would be, when somebody's walking by you with a backpack on, their backpacks open.

[Chris]

What a loser.

[Tony]

Oh, I do that all the time. And you want. You're right behind them. You could say, hey, your backpacks open, but you don't.

[Chris]

Tripping on the stairs is bad, though. I ate shit tripping on the stairs. And it was an escalator, too.

[Tony]

So I had this going up or down?

[Chris]

It was going up, and I was trying to catch the train.

[Tony]

That's more embarrassing.

[Chris]

I caught my own couple of things here on the list. So I was running up the escalator, trying to catch the train. Then I tripped on one of the stair things, fell on the escalator, had the grates of the escalators on my fingers. My phone flew out of my bag. My. My hit. My headphones ripped off. I'm wearing the headphones with nothing plugged in. I'm riding up the escalator, and then my hands are all bruised. I finally get on the train and I'm like, damn, everybody saw me trip.

[Tony]

What an embarrassing tripping going down, dangerous tripping going up.

[Billy Gil]

I find that to be a shocking number one from you tying your shoes in public as the most embarrassing thing someone can.

[Tony]

I've never someone doing that and been like, loser.

[Lewis]

You don't get it. Tony's super cool.

[Chris]

No, you don't get it, Billy.

[Lewis]

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[Ron Magill]

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[Chris]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Chris]

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[Billy Gil]

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[Chris]

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[Tony]

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[Chris]

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[Tony]

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[Greg Cody]

Don LeBatard I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.

[Ron Magill]

Stugats don't do it.

[Zach]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.

[Billy Gil]

When you mention losers and I see what Baker Mayfield is doing after almost being swallowed by two organizations that are losers, I want to ask you guys if you think when we do all this analysis of football, we're analyzing how good are the quarterbacks? We're analyzing everyone in sports and their value when I tell you that this is the list, okay, what two teams combined gave up to decide they wanted a quarterback better than Baker Mayfield. 2022 first round pick 22 fourth round pick 23 first round pick 23 third round pick 24 first round pick 24 fourth round pick wide receiver DJ Moore 2023 first round pick 2023 second round pick 2024 first round pick 2025 second 130 million in fully guaranteed money for Deshaun Watson. So total five first two seconds, one third, two fourths DJ Moore and 230 million guaranteed for the privilege of having DeSean Watson and Bryce Young play quarterback over Baker Mayfield. Think about what's happening there. Think about how shitty we are at value assessment at that position. He was first round pick, top of the draft skill set, even though he's smaller, because quarterbacks usually aren't that size. Quarterbacks who are successful in that league very rarely that size. But he has become one of the great values at quarterback and a couple of years ago was available one year, $6 million. How was any of that possible? Explain it to me. Because the Bucs have now won the division four straight times. He's the only quarterback we've seen at the end of games both games this season, right at the End. He's winning it. Yeah, it's very much him. He's doing it and you kind of feel and know he's going to do it because now he's got the confidence and the swagger that he could not have in Cleveland. Now it's been earned. He was very close, Greg. Very close. This isn't quite Kurt Warner going from grocery store bag boy to MVP of the league, but he was very close to being relegated a backup who would not be given another chance to. And now Tampa has a team that was super limited last night. Super limited that game. Most teams in the league lose that game on the road with those injuries and those matchup problems. Like there's. There's just not many teams or quarterbacks in the league who win that game. Given what the issues were last night.

[Greg Cody]

It'S incredible the, the way he's reworked his entire image because two, three years ago, we're thinking right now he's. I think he had a long future in the league wearing a ball cap and carrying a clipboard as a backup. Now he's one of the clutch guys in the league. Baker Mayfield. You think of a clutch guy who can win in the fourth quarter and that's incredible. But it goes back to Tom Brady in the seventh round in terms of the NFL not being able to calculate quarterbacking accurate.

[Billy Gil]

But how many of those guys are there? Zaz, who are the guys right now in the league that you look at and say that quarterback is someone to be feared late in clutch situations? I just don't think. Because Lamar Jackson isn't that guy. I'm sorry. It's the one. There are certain guys in the league. Okay. And I don't say this as indictment.

[Zach]

I'd be afraid of Burrow, you know, if he's playing, I'd be afraid of Burrow.

[Billy Gil]

That's correct. But there aren't that many. There are a handful, though, that the conditions for them on the team make them have these enormous leads because they can be front runners. They're fine if they're ahead. But at the end of the game, I fear Lamar Jackson, obviously because of the toolbox. But Lamar Jackson's not one of these quarterbacks that you've seen drive down the field. In fact, he did it against Buffalo in the playoffs last year. And then Mark Andrews dropped the ball at the goal line. But he's not one of those guys that has. You tell me if I have this wrong because I'm doing it from memory and surely he has to have game winning drives. But I think Baker Mayfield has two this season that I remember more than any one Lamar Jackson, or for that matter, Josh Allen has, where you're just like at the end of a game, that guy is going to drive down the field and I know he's going to drive down the field. Josh Allen had it against Kansas City and then Mahomes took it back there. He's 13 seconds left in a game.

[Zach]

But we're taking Mahomes out of this conversation now is also what you're saying, right?

[Billy Gil]

I'm taking my homes out of the conversation. But more largely what I'm saying is, are there really more quarterbacks in the league that you think are going to choke late than there are quarterbacks in the league that you think are going to be great late, that you fear being great late? Definitely, because I think Baker Mayfield has now entered that conversation. I'm asking you with who else.

[Greg Cody]

I start with Josh Allen because he's. He can beat you with his arm, obviously, but when he's running the ball, I'm confident because he's. He's a linebacker sized guy who can truck over the other linebacker trying to tackle him. You know, he can beat you any way. And I think Josh Allen right now is state of the art, taken over from Mahomes at least.

[Billy Gil]

But he's just great. I'm talking about great late. I'm talking about the feared aura. He's just simply a great quarterback. But I don't think of him. Montana did this. You know what I'm talking about. These guys at the end of games, Brady was the master, obviously. Leave him anytime and you're done. When you talk about Josh Allen, I talked about this play earlier this week. I want to talk about it again because it was a truly amazing play that simply got lost Sunday because it was an uninteresting game. Sauce Gardner, the most expensive player on the jets defense, has a blind side blitz, no block, running fast as he can right at the quarterback's back, has him squared up, hits him in the back. But Josh Allen notices at the last second that he's coming spins out of it. But Sauce Gardner couldn't tackle someone that large. It was like trying. It was like watching a smaller animal try and defeat a larger animal that it cannot defeat because it's too big. A cornerback who tackles because Sauce does tackle, had him lined up, Zaz, and the athleticism and strength made it so that Sauce Gardner was crumpled on the ground. Coaches called the perfect defensive call, had Josh Allen dead to rights. Doesn't matter who Your coaching design or anything is it's a blind side blitz you saw in the game last night. It was won by the running backs block on a blitzing cornerback because Baker Mayfield on 4th and 10 ran for 15 yards when he should have been tackled. But that play is what Josh Allen does that makes him the MVP of the league. Everything else could be called in a way where Buffalo is at a disadvantage and the other team has all the coaching advantages and has gotten to the quarterback the correct way. Against this is sauce Gardner untouched. Had him lined up and the athleticism, awareness and strength made it so that a professional football player looked like he can't hit because he was hitting Josh Allen in the back.

[Zach]

There's maybe three guys in the league right now. 80 yards to go, two minutes left. Need a touchdown. You feel like they're going to do it. I think it's Allen, I think it's Burrow and maybe Mayfield too. But there are other guys in the league who are still in the league who are still starting quarterbacks league who used to be those guys like Russell Wilson used to be one of those guys. Aaron, Aaron Rodgers used to be one of those guys. I guess Patrick Mahomes used to be one of those guys. And when he gets Rashi Rice back or back, he'll probably be that guy again.

[Tony]

Dak Prescott has the same as Mahomes. Like they're very close. Josh Allen also has a lot to Dan's point. Baker does have more than Lamar Jackson.

[Billy Gil]

Well the other game winning draft, the other thing that Baker Mayfield has because I'm telling you that the assessment of Baker Mayfield has been wrong because we've sample size that has teams rejecting him. Do you know who the best third down quarterback in the league was last year? The Bucks were the best team in the league. The Bucks were the best team in the league on third down. And that's something I associate with when TUA got here and they started throwing the ball around I was like finally the Dolphins got One of those third and 10 doesn't matter. There aren't many of them. Like it was Aaron Rodgers, it was Josh Allen. It's I don't know if it's Lamar Jackson. Third and ten doesn't matter. Matter.

[Tony]

And that lasted a season for the.

[Chris]

Dolphins and Lamar Jackson point. Like you asked, when was the last time you remember a Lamar Jackson comeback drive?

[Tony]

Could it be they're not down a lot?

[Chris]

A, but B it was game one last season when Isaiah likely wore a 14 instead of a 13. And on that two point conversion. They dropped it, but he dropped, drove him down the field and they scored to basically almost win the game.

[Tony]

Yeah, I agree with you on Baker and his ability to come up clutch. It's obvious the last two games, but at the same time, like you talk about both of these things, you've got to be trailing a lot to have these comebacks. And your play during those games impact that. And when you talk about third down last year they added a dynamic pass catching running back in Bucky Irving who can get you seven yards no matter what.

[Chris]

And they have two big physical receivers.

[Tony]

Last year in Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. So the skill players do help when it comes to stuff like that.

[Billy Gil]

He didn't have Godwin last night. They're running games.

[Zach]

Good player though.

[Billy Gil]

I'm just saying last year and you can just throw it over to where Mike Evans is a lot of times and usually he doesn't get played the way the Texans were playing and where it's just like we're going to put one guy, we're going to put Stingley on him and that's it. We're not going to do. We don't have to worry about anything else. That's one of the reasons I was stunned Houston didn't win that game. You've got that pass rush, you've got their tackles out. And furthermore, Houston's got a way to stop Mike Evans, which I thought was going to be the only way that the Bucs would win last.

[Zach]

You know about that mecca.

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