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Dan Le Batard
You're listening to Giraffe Kings Network.
Stugotz
Okay, check this. Deli boy's on Hulu. Two brothers, Raj and Mir, are living the high life. Not a care in the world. When their old man dies, it all vanishes.
Seth Davis
Poof.
Stugotz
And they find out he didn't just own a deli, but he was a drug kingpin. And they're like, what the Throw in their ruthless aunt, some guys who want to kill them. And keeping dad's drug business going. Sounds amazing, right? Deli Boys is now streaming on Hulu.
Mike Ryan
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Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
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Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
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Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
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Seth Davis
Cuervo.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Chris Cody
This guy's going to be co anchoring his 21st select show Sunday. 21 of them he's got on the resume. It is next Sunday, 6:00pm Eastern Time on CBS. We are going to do our own selection Sunday show for fun next Sunday live. He's also the co founder and editor in Chief of Hoops HQ, Seth Davis with us again. 21 years is crazy. I don't think he's been on since last year at about this time. So I will start in the obvious place. Are you caught up on White Lotus, sir?
Seth Davis
You have named. First of all, it's amazing to hear you say that. I've done 21 shows because I'm only 26, so obviously I'm the dude. I'm the Doogie Howser of sports broadcasting. You've actually named Dan one of the shows I actually watch. I am not a shows guy or a movie. I'm even worse with movies. So I've watched a few shows. I am not caught up on White Lotus. I am through season two. I know we're in season three. I've watched a couple episodes of Severance. I have no idea what's going on. But then again, I usually don't have any idea what's going on, so it's all good.
Chris Cody
Are you guys falling asleep during Severance? I like Severance, but I keep falling. I cannot stay awake for Severance. There's something about the tone and the pacing of it that is so slow that I'm perpetually. Even though I like it, I'm perpetually falling asleep during it. Greg.
Seth Davis
100%. 100%. First of all, part of it is I usually watch it at night with my wife and I'm 54 and I'm lazy. So, yeah, by the time we get about halfway through, I. Not often then I have to watch, you know, the last 15 minutes the next morning during my workout or something to stay caught up. So these are first world problems, for sure.
Greg Cody
I apologize for not responding to that. I have never watched Severance. I wouldn't even have heard of it except my wife watches it because she watches everything. I watch very little tv. Although I do love White Lotus.
Chris Cody
Can you please explain to me whether or not you're surprised that Rick Pitino has been allowed to climb back toward the top of the sport, given how his last tenure ended?
Seth Davis
No, because he can win. You know, the. The ability for people to get past certain things is directly correlated to your ability to win. And no one can ever question Rick's ability to win. You know, it's. It's interesting, Dan. The thing that he was eventually fired for in relation to the FBI investigation was like the biggest nothing burger of all time. I mean, that case was an incredible waste of time, money, energy, attention. You know, basically these FBI agents heard all these low level scammers scamming each other and they thought they were telling the truth. So when one guy tells another, hey, man, I got Patino, I got Self, I got Larynnega, I got this guy, the FBI thinks, hey, all we got to do is move in on those guys and they'll flip. Well, it turns out there was nothing to flip to. So the problem with Rick was the optics of his being even tangentially linked to that case. On top of the other things that had happened, some of which were directly his fault, some of which were his fault by responsibility, it was that accumulation. But there were other places. Kansas in particular basically said to the ncaa, like, give us everything you got. And they stuck by Bill Self and nothing happened to him. And he was in it considerably deeper than Rick was at the. So there might be a little bit, I don't know what the opposite of buyers remorse is at Louisville with Pitino, Maybe firer's remorse, if that's a Thing. But no, I'm not surprised because he's a great coach. And, and you know, in today's era, Dan, with the portal, you can rebuild very quickly. And when you have a coach like Rick Pitino, you got guys who want to play in the NBA and so they want to play for Rick Pitino. So not surprised at all.
Mike Ryan
In college athletics, we've seen a little bit more parody in football than I guess we anticipated. Everyone assumed the SEC would just get stronger. They've been challenged by the Big Ten and other school. But in the other sports, the SEC's financial advantage is really sticking out, particularly men's basketball, baseball, women's basketball. On the other side of the coin, you have the acc. And I know this was several years in the making. They're not top dog by a long shot anymore. And you've had NC State, which made a Final Four run last year, part ways with its coach. Miami, which made a Final Four run two years ago, part ways with its coach, Leonard Hamilton, might have won a championship were not for Covid over at fsu parting ways over there. What do you make of what's happening inside the acc? Are they feeling the pressure?
Seth Davis
Well, I think it's a great question. I think they thought they were above it or at least didn't have to do it. You know, it's a different type of culture, different type of setup. I mean, there are some private schools inside the acc. There are public schools that are not necessarily as invested in, even in the concept of college athletics. You know, even Syracuse, it's a private school, it's big. But, you know, I mean, let's be honest, in the sec, you know, some of these places have been operating like this for a very long time. So this is just a matter of paperwork now. Everything is above board. And, you know, it's the old saying, adapt or die. And you know, the SEC might have a storied history, but it's, it's past history, you know, and if you're not forward looking, you're in trouble. I mean, for example, you know, North Carolina has been struggling again. And you know, North Carolina just in the last couple of weeks hired a general manager. I did not know that they didn't have a general manager. I kind of assumed they did. John Shire was the first person in this, in sports to even think of this position at the college level. Now everybody not only has one, but you have to have one news this morning that Steph Curry is going to be the assistant GM at Davidson. I mean, all he has to do is cut one check and, and his job is over. So it's a great life lesson really for, for teachers and parents and all of us and business leaders especially that you cannot be stuck in past thinking. You cannot think about, well, this is the way we've always done it. It's like that old Wayne Gretzky saying what made Gretzky great isn't that he skated to the puck. He skated to where the puck was going. The ACC skated to where the puck used to be and now they're paying the price. They have a lot of catching up to do.
Chris Cody
You mentioned Steph Curry and Nil James Harden says that he is going to spend a lot money to make Arizona State even better than Arizona State already is. How much of this is going to be a future influx where NBA guys can have a role in making sure that they take care of their alma maters.
Seth Davis
It's where we are, man. I mean it's just the reality. And it's funny you mentioned about Miami having fallen on hard times, but when they made the Final Four they had their own version of Steph Curry named John Ruiz. I think he's a Miami grad, but he was a Miami booster and a billionaire guy and he gave them a lot of money to buy players that help them get to the Final Four. And then he and his business fell on hard times. There was a SEC investigation and, and all kind. And so he's not, he's not paying the piper anymore and look what happened in Miami. So. But the real coming change, Dan, is, is the, is a genuine revenue sharing model where beginning in July, assuming this case settlement gets approved, which looks like the judge is going to do, every school now can spend up to, they're not required up to $20 million to give to their athletes now they can spend that however they want. And it's going to be fascinating to see how that all breaks down because if you're at a place like Auburn right now, which is one of the top teams in college basketball, Alabama certainly, obviously the first dollars out the door are going to football and so how much really is left for men's basketball? And then you have all the other women's sports and this big question of how Title IX is going to play into it. So there's, there's a lot more unknown than known. But the only thing we know is that players are going to have money in their pockets. And if you don't have money to put in your players pockets at a competitive rate, whether it's directly through revenue sharing or through the Steph Currys and James Harden's of the world or other nil arrangements. There's not as much money out there as maybe some people think. But this is the new paradigm. And if you're in the business of college sports, you better be adjusting to what's happening and what's going to happen as opposed to the way things used to be.
Dan Le Batard
So given all of that, is there any chance Cooper Flagg comes back next season at Duke?
Seth Davis
Well, Jessica, let me put it this way. There's a better chance that I will play next season for Duke than Cooper Flagg.
Dan Le Batard
But the Wizards have the number one pick. Come on.
Seth Davis
Yes. You know what? It's funny you say that, because I'm a D.C. sports fan. Well, first of all, they haven't had the lottery, so I'm a Wizards fan. I go back to the old Bullet stays with Elvin Hayes and Wes Unsell, then the Capitol center in Landover. And I was down to Duke a couple of weeks ago interviewing Cooper for Fox Sports, and I kind of looked him up and said, you know, you look pretty good in a Wizard's uniform, but the most Wizards thing ever is going to be they are not winning the lottery. Like, I am not even allowing myself mentally to go there. As far as the numbers are concerned, though, if you look at what Cooper flags go make in the NBA as the number one pick, Duke can't even touch that. So. But what we are seeing are players who would otherwise go to the draft in, like, the second round, or even guys who might not be drafted and would potentially go overseas, or guys who are coming out of high school and going to play for the NBA G League Ignite, which, by the way, doesn't even exist anymore. So all of this has really been great for college basketball. And, you know, everybody's saying, oh, it's killing the transfer portal and all that. You know, they point to things that kind of make us uncomfortable. If you look overall, the fact that players can now make real money playing college basketball, guess what that means? More of the really good ones are staying and returning to college basketball. And that's been very good, I think, for the enterprise.
Greg Cody
Miami is introducing Laryn Yeager's replacement today in Lucas from Duke. What do you think of that hire?
Seth Davis
Well, I think it's a great hire. The very, very interesting part of that is the timing. And this is just one of those odd things. I presume this is going to be fixed. The transfer portal opens on March 24th. And so if Miami doesn't have a head coach not only on the 24th, but really in the run up to the 24th, it's going to be way behind the eight ball in terms of recruiting transfers. So that's basically the deal, as I understand it, that they presented to Lucas. And, you know, a lot of credit should go to John Shire for being okay with it, because if John Shire put his foot down and said to Jay Lucas, hey, I gave you a chance to come here. We need you for the stretch run, we're trying to win a championship. I'm not saying Jay would have done it, but it would have been a different situation. So it's a great, again, lesson in terms of leadership, of service, doing what's best for the people who work for you. But it's a problem because the portal opening on 20 on the 24th, so you're going to have 16 schools who are still playing in the NCAA tournament. They could move that back, you know, even a week and a half, two weeks, and kind of ease that pressure. Football has a much harder problem because for 95, 98, probably percent of the schools, I guess, whatever it is, 90%, their season basically ends in Thanksgiving. Now you have these bowl games that don't really matter in the grand scheme. And so kids can enter the transfer portal, but you still have 12 teams in the playoff that doesn't even begin for several weeks. And that's a very, very long lead time. And there's really not much they can do about it because there's so much time between the end of the regular season and the start of the postseason. But I'm hoping in college basketball that they'll be able to move the portal back a week or two. But there may be other factors, particularly academics involved in that that I'm not, you know, fully briefed on that would prevent that. But it seems to me, you know, one or two weeks shouldn't be all that hard.
Chris Cody
Chris Cody, always on top of things. As the executive producer has accused you in my ear of stifling a burp during that an. Is that accurate? Is. And what. What would the breakfast have been? What would have been the breakfast of choice for a Seth Davis?
Seth Davis
See, Chris needs to roll with me because I'm. I'm kind of an intermittent faster. So I have my, my. I'm in la, by the way, so I'm up early. Dan, I love you, but it was for Leah that I'm. That I'm doing this, because I don't say no to her. That's my rule. So I got my little MCT oil and my. My ghee butter in my. In my early morning coffee. Chris, you may want to give it a shot. And then I basically won't eat any food probably till I have my workout.
Jessica
What I said, I said it as a compliment. Because you're such a pro that it looked like. It looked like a little gas or air came up and you just. You stayed with your point. It was. And you just kind of stifled it.
Seth Davis
Yeah, I would have no problem admitting to an almost burp or even an all in out belch. I have no. I've. I've admitted to many worse things than that. So just being factual. Well, you should still try the intermittent fasting.
Chris Cody
Chris, I recommend give us some more information. He will never try that. It's not something that he's interested in any way. Can you give me some of the other ways that you've gone full Los Angeles with your kale smoothies and your ghee butter?
Seth Davis
Well, I was kind of there. I moved out here. I am a big juicer. I try to have a nice green juice drink every day. The key is no fruit, no sugar in there. So my concoction is parsley, spinach, kale, cucumber, lemon and ginger. It tastes a lot better than that sounds. A lemon and ginger makes it taste good. So it's about being hydrated, being healthy. But don't get it twisted. I can put away cheesecake like no one. You know, I love a good steak. I mean, I love. I do like to eat, so as I like to say, everything in moderation, including moderation.
Chris Cody
Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Do you think that Seth Davis could eat a cheesecake like nobody else at Lebatard show? Tell us about your standup comedy career, man.
Seth Davis
I didn't know you did research like this, bro. That's a little. I don't know that I would call it a career. I know it shocks you because I'm not funny at all. It was basically. It was basically an itch I wanted to scratch. I was living in New York City, you know, I grew up like so many people, listening to George Carlin and Rich Pryor and especially Rich Little, great impressionist.
Chris Cody
You don't do. You don't do impressions, do you? Did you do impressions?
Seth Davis
Not in this. I have to think about what I want to do for you. Yeah, of course I can do impression.
Greg Cody
Go ahead.
Chris Cody
Well, let's not put some pressure on. Let's give him some time to think about which impression he'd like to unleash. But also please continue answering the question. How much standup did you do? When did you realize it wasn't for you, et cetera.
Seth Davis
Should I do this whole answer is Rich Little doing Ronald Reagan. Yes, I always, I always listen to George Carlin and well, one day I had a friend who took a comedy class at the New School and well, there you go again.
Chris Cody
The well is key to Ronald Reagan. It's really.
Seth Davis
That's it, that's it.
Chris Cody
Every Ronald Reagan has a well in front of it.
Seth Davis
You can flip that right into Mike Tyson. I don't mind losing about the but the Douglas. I just want to lose Staley, you know. Anyway, I, I grew up listening to George Carlin and Richard Prioritz, all these guys. And it was like, you know, everyone's like, oh, I could never get on stage and do that. Right. So I was living in New York City. Great friend of mine named Mitch Brenner was taking a stand up comedy class at the New School down in Greenwich Village. And as part of the class you take a few classes and then you get some stage time and I oh, I could never do that. I can't believe you're doing that. I could never do that. And then he showed me video of him and his fellow students doing their, their stand up. And of course being students, they were awful. And I watched that and I said, oh, I can suck. I didn't realize sucking was an option. That's easy. So I'm going to go out there and suck. And I did. But you know, at the time you could get five minutes of stage time if you brought three audience members. And those audience members, I think they had to pay a $20 cover and a two drink minimum. And I had a lot of friends in New York so I would space them shows and kind of develop my material. So I had a few good nights on it. I kind of hit the low level circuit. But you know, to be really good at anything, you got to be able to commit yourself fully to it. And I was at Sports Illustrated. Things were happening for me there. So at a certain point I just kind of decided I was done. I did it for. But I will say this, I was, that was right about when I was starting to do a lot more television and you can see how that those skills are translatable from the stage to, to the small screen. So yeah, but I've got a lot of mileage out of mentioning it in my bio. So thanks for picking up on it.
Chris Cody
He will be co anchoring the 21st selection Sunday of his career, this Sunday at 6pm Eastern on CBS. He's also the co founder and editor in chief of Hoops hq. The idea of paths not taken. You mentioned Sports Illustrated. What's the saddest you get these days thinking about what Sports Illustrated has become versus what it is you thought you were going to do when you joined Sports Illustrated, however many years ago?
Seth Davis
Well, the only constant in life has changed. And again, it's a great example of an entity not adapting and being stuck in the way things were. And especially when the people making those decisions are so vested in the status quo, that becomes difficult. So, you know, you have two businesses. One is Blockbuster and one is Netflix. Explain to your listeners under the age of 40 or even 45 what blockbuster is. Those are Blockbusters everywhere. And now look at Netflix. And now nobody knows what Blockbuster is. So that's kind of what happened to Sports Illustrated. I will say, though, that I'm very pleased with the way that Sports Illustrated has reconstituted itself with all of the tumult. And, you know, there was a. There was a point in time there where we thought it was literally gone completely. So it's still there. It's still a very good monthly magazine. They still have some really good writers there. You know, Chris Mannix and Tom Forducci and Pat40, does a great job in college sports. I mean, they have some really good people there. Steve Cannella, the guy who's running the magazine as the managing editor, has been there. He and I started on the same day. We shared an office July 1995. But, you know, I think with disruptions, Dan, and changes, and I know you're an old newspaper hack like me, like, there's a lot of opportunities and, you know, this, what I'm doing with Hoops HQ is a great example. I mean, we have this new creator economy where, you know, if you're willing to hustle a little bit and just think creatively and use the things that got you there, which is access, storytelling, shoe leather, people want to read, people want to listen, and they'll even give you a couple of bucks for the ability to do that. So I'm not saying it's easy, but life is not easy and life is not fair. And that's kind of where we are. Sports Illustrated is the company that had a chance to buy ESPN in the early 80s and I guess figured maybe cable TV was just a fad. So. So that's one of many decisions that didn't work out so well.
Chris Cody
I guess before we get Rid of you here. Sleepers. Give us three of them. Let's go. Give us the teams that people need to be picking when they get to their brackets.
Seth Davis
Okay, well, you had one that punched its ticket to the dance, as we say, Drake. Yesterday, the Drake Bulldogs, really interesting story in that their coach, Ben McCollum, the job came open because the coach moved to West Virginia. So they hired Ben McCollum, who's a Division 2 coach, and he took a bunch of his Division 2 players. He won a national championship at the D2 level. Brought them with him, the Drake, and they won the Missouri Valley Conference regular season. And now they've won the tournament, which is really, really hard to do. They won all year, best player in the league. And Bennett Sturtz, just a really talented guard. They're one of the slowest teams in the country. And I do like teams that play a slower tempo because it's much easier to take a team that wants to run and slow it down than take a team that wants to play slow and speed it up. So that's an advantage. St. Mary's also plays slow. I would watch out for them out West. UC San Diego in the Big west, similar story with some D2 transfers. And this is their first year in Division 1. Probably in position to win an at large bid if they don't make the tournament. Will Wade is doing great things at McNeese. I think he's probably going to move on. You want to talk about Rickertino's past? Will Wade is a whole nother conversation. And then St. Mary's I talk about a slow tempo playing, grinding defense. They've already beaten Gonzaga twice. Randy Bennett has another really good team with a lot of international. The type of team that no one's going to want to see. I think it's only a matter of time between kind of like what San Diego State did and breaking through to the Final Four. I've long thought it's only a matter of time before St. Mary's has one of those runs. Maybe this is the year.
Chris Cody
Good seeing you. We will check in with you on Sunday, sir. Thank you for being on with us. Good seeing you.
Seth Davis
I'll see you next year. God willing.
Stugotz
Okay, check this deli boys on Hulu. Two brothers, Raj and Mir, are living the high life. Not a care in the world. When their old man dies, it all vanishes.
Greg Cody
Poof.
Stugotz
And they find out he didn't just own a deli, but he was a drug kingpin. And they're like, what the throw in their ruthless aunt Some guys who want to kill them and keeping Dad's drug business going. Sounds amazing, right? Deli Boyz is now streaming on Hulu.
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Chris Cody
Don Lebatard. You don't remember the idea?
Jessica
I was probably like that kind of thing. Something.
Greg Cody
Okay, no, the home run call was that kind of swing. That kind of thing.
Chris Cody
Stugats.
Stugotz
Oh, it's a good call.
Greg Cody
Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like you're not tailoring it to a particular name. You know all that jazz, you know you don't got to do that. Oh, that would be a great call. Swing, that kind of thing.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with these two gods.
Chris Cody
We've got to get to a very expensive Cheeto. We have to get to some unfortunate wording that a broadcaster used on a California game. And we have to get to a very fast 70 year old who is not Greg Cody. That is Greg Cody and his son breathing very heavy at the end of the show. Toward the end of the show, Greg forgets that he is on the air and he just breathes with his giant nostrils.
Greg Cody
They usually tell me to put the mic closer to me. This time I was. It was too close by a quarter of an inch.
Jessica
Now you're in peak comfort.
Greg Cody
Well, I'm relaxed.
Jessica
How fast do you think you can run 100 meters?
Greg Cody
Probably 15 seconds.
Chris Cody
Do you think you could run as fast as this 70 year old right here is running 100 meters in just, just a second? Faster. A second and a half faster than Greg Cody thinks that he can run a hundred meter dash. This is, this is pretty fast for a 70 year old. Tomorrow we're going to have a corn dog eating competition.
Jessica
Greg, look at this.
Chris Cody
Greg. This guy is going very fast. You think that you would run 1 1/2 seconds slower than that guy did on 100 meter dash?
Jessica
29 seconds.
Greg Cody
Obviously the film was sped up.
Chris Cody
It was not sped up.
Greg Cody
That wasn't real time.
Chris Cody
That is real time. The wind was blowing through his hair. He would have been faster if not his hair slowing him down aerodynamically.
Greg Cody
See, I don't have that problem. Problem.
Dan Le Batard
He's right about that.
Greg Cody
Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna adjust my estimate slightly from 15 seconds to 17.5.
Chris Cody
We're not gonna try it because I.
Jessica
Would not do that.
Chris Cody
We're afraid of you falling on the track and breaking a bunch of brittle bones.
Greg Cody
I would do it on a soft surface.
Chris Cody
Tell us what's coming up.
Jessica
How would you run on a soft surface?
Greg Cody
I mean, I gotta. You know, I don't want to break a hip.
Stugotz
Yeah. Like on sand or the beach.
Greg Cody
I only got two hips, and I don't want to break one.
Dan Le Batard
We should do a beach race.
Stugotz
Yeah. Beach race.
Dan Le Batard
Beach race.
Stugotz
Beach race.
Seth Davis
Beach day.
Dan Le Batard
Beach race Day.
Stugotz
Beach race.
Greg Cody
Beach day. Beach race.
Chris Cody
You couldn't be more bored and indifferent while delivering content right now. You are so ready to leave. You're just ready to leave.
Greg Cody
I'm not ready to leave.
Chris Cody
You didn't even sing Beach Day with any enthusiasm. You just went yay. It was just. You couldn't have been any more bored while delivering what you were delivering.
Greg Cody
You think you. You call it bored because I'm relaxed? Because I'm supine. You know, it's. I'm relaxed. I work better relaxed.
Stugotz
That's the thing about beach days. You relax.
Greg Cody
Exactly.
Chris Cody
What's coming up on the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody.
Greg Cody
We got a lot of good stuff on the new episode 261 that dropped today. And. And the headline, I guess, would be the great Tony Tony Cornheiser reacts to being named the number one podcast host guest in. In Greg Cody show history.
Chris Cody
You're always better when you're relaxed.
Greg Cody
Reaction by Tony the K. Is this.
Stugotz
The episode where you do the number 18 spice also herb.
Greg Cody
Number 19. Herb, yeah.
Jessica
Because last week we did our revealing the top 100 guests, so we skipped Herb of the week last week. So he does reveal in this episode the 19.
Chris Cody
Did you just reveal the number one guest in the history of your. Is that something that's been revealed on your podcast today? Is it?
Jessica
Yeah, this past week.
Greg Cody
It was the pet this past week.
Jessica
And so this week we have a reaction from Tony Cornheiser.
Chris Cody
There's no way he was on because he doesn't do.
Greg Cody
No, he was. We had him on. I mean, you got to listen that.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
I don't believe you. I believe that it's. Why would he lie him on. I don't believe. Why would he lie to sell his podcast? And he doesn't care whether it's the truth.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Chris Cody
Or not.
Stugotz
Well, that's how you get Tony Kornheiser on. You just make him number one. You say Tony Guess what? Big honor. You're number one. He says, you know what, Gregory Cody, I respect the hell out of you. I'm on.
Greg Cody
We have him on. Not for a long time, but maybe a minute and a half for a good time. It's a good time. It was a great time.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Greg Cody
Levitar didn't even make the top 10, so he's sore.
Stugotz
Wow.
Greg Cody
He finished one spot.
Dan Le Batard
Who was the most Rosenfeld Upset with their ranking?
Greg Cody
Well, Levitard was, that's for sure.
Stugotz
Dan, you don't need to be upset. I mean, it's subjective. It's a three person panel. One threes are fives. So I thought you had. I thought you were great when you were on. If it were up to me, I would have given you a five.
Jessica
The most offended was Uncle Dick because we forgot to put him on.
Greg Cody
Yeah, we come.
Dan Le Batard
What is not Uncle Dick.
Jessica
So we went back the next day episode. We're like, all right, we're putting him in.
Greg Cody
So disappointed.
Jessica
See you later, Matt Penelli.
Greg Cody
Good, I like that. No, we did forget Uncle Dick, which is unheard of, unfathomable. All the other uns. It's unheard of, unfathomable.
Chris Cody
Yeah, you mentioned. You mentioned only those two, right?
Dan Le Batard
Unbelievable.
Greg Cody
Really unimaginable. Right?
Stugotz
Un American.
Greg Cody
Un American. Well, I don't know about Un American, but all the other runs were accurate.
Mike Ryan
I'm glad I've never been asked.
Greg Cody
Would work.
Mike Ryan
Glad I've never been asked. What's a good time for the hundred meters? Because I gotta be honest with you. Just not getting around to learning exactly what a meter is. I think it's about this, but I don't know for sure. If we had a contest in here, I think a lot of Americans would also fall well short of what a meter is.
Greg Cody
Well, I only know because of Olympic timing. Like, the Olympic gold medal candidates run under 10, you know, like nine. What. What's a great world?
Jessica
He just said he doesn't know.
Mike Ryan
I don't know.
Greg Cody
Nine and a half? I'm gonna say.
Seth Davis
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
If you would have asked me before that clip, I would have been like 13.
Dan Le Batard
Is it like 9.2? Why is that ringing a bell?
Greg Cody
That could be. You could be right. People are getting faster all the time.
Stugotz
That's true.
Greg Cody
So I'm gonna double my time and. And up my estimate to 18.5 seconds. Okay. Because I don't pretend that. That at my age that I'm gonna compete.
Jessica
When's the last time you sprinted?
Greg Cody
I. I run.
Chris Cody
You don't.
Stugotz
He's right.
Greg Cody
No, I don't.
Chris Cody
Don't run.
Mike Ryan
I don't believe when you don't even walk.
Chris Cody
Do you have what you run in those, in those deck shoes? You don't. Do you even own sneakers?
Greg Cody
I do own sneakers.
Jessica
We're talking to a man that when his doctor asked him about how active he is, he says, I walk around my house a lot.
Greg Cody
Well, I. And he, he tries to tell me I no longer have that doctor. He tries to tell me that's not exercise. I'm walking a mile or two every day.
Stugotz
What difference does it make where you take your steps? You know what I mean? Get your 10,000 steps. And if I choose to do it in the comfort of my own home.
Dan Le Batard
What do you care if you're taking like five steps at a time? It's not the same as going for a mile walk.
Jessica
It's about heart rate.
Stugotz
You replaced McGillicuddy.
Greg Cody
It's more than five. Well, this was a different doctor who shall remain nameless.
Stugotz
Why put the name out there? Let's cost this doctor his degree.
Greg Cody
This guy's trying to tell me that you have to cardio and you have to sweat and you know this and breathe fast.
Stugotz
How dare he sounds like a quack to me, this monster.
Greg Cody
I got a big L shaped house. You know, the amount of steps I take during a day is crazy big.
Jessica
With the game room of Kyrios. You can do a full circle and.
Stugotz
There'S probably steps, but do you ever.
Dan Le Batard
Do a full circle?
Mike Ryan
You bowl?
Greg Cody
Not intentionally.
Jessica
He does bowl.
Greg Cody
I do bowl. That's heavy lifting right there.
Dan Le Batard
You take one step to the lane and one step back to the chair.
Stugotz
But you're tossing some bicep curls every once in a while.
Jessica
He carries his bowling bag from the car.
Greg Cody
It's a 15 pound ball. Times however many times I'm lifting it.
Jessica
You have your bowling shoes in there. My dad the only bowler in the league that always walks out of the bowling alley in his bowling shoes.
Dan Le Batard
Chris, you completely changed your mind. About what? Whose side you were on midway through the last two minutes.
Stugotz
Greg's making some good arguments here.
Chris Cody
Yeah. You come in and out of the bowling alley wearing your bowling shoes. You drive to the bowling alley in your bowling shoes.
Greg Cody
Right?
Jessica
And like people are like putting covers on their bowling shoes because like you can't go in the bathroom. You don't want anything. My dad just walks outside in the bowling bright blue.
Greg Cody
I'm wearing my bowling shoes home. If I'm stopped and I see a bowling game breakout over there, I can stop. I Can go over and say, hey, let me in, you know, and then.
Chris Cody
I do you stop at a bar on the way home sometimes from the bowling alley while wearing the bowling shoes?
Greg Cody
No, that does.
Dan Le Batard
What about your golf shoes? Do you change in and out of.
Jessica
Those that he usually forgets and then ends up playing golf in his boat shoes? I can count like more like a dozen times in my life we've shown up to the golf course. I left my shoes at home. So he's in boat shoes now on the 13th.
Greg Cody
And with my game, it doesn't even affect. It doesn't even hurt it. But golf shoes I have worn home because they don't. Clickety clack, you know, they're. Nowadays, they're not like metal spikes or anything, so they're. They're comfortable.
Stugotz
Do you wear your tap shoes home?
Greg Cody
My what?
Stugotz
Tap shoes for tap dancing.
Greg Cody
No, I don't tap dance.
Stugotz
Really?
Greg Cody
No.
Dan Le Batard
Good.
Greg Cody
My mother used to.
Chris Cody
Oh, that's good.
Mike Ryan
Ruth used to.
Stugotz
Hold on, hold on. Ruth was a tapper.
Greg Cody
My mother tap danced. It's in the family. I have never tried it.
Dan Le Batard
Jake Tapper.
Greg Cody
Jake Tapper.
Stugotz
She's right.
Greg Cody
Well said.
Stugotz
I think that we're here castigating and frowning upon Greg when really we should be celebrating his preparedness at any point in time. Greg can board a boat. We know that.
Dan Le Batard
Or bowl. Or bowl if a game breaks out.
Greg Cody
That's right.
Chris Cody
Can I get the sound of that? Los Angeles broadcaster, please? Using phrasing the Los Angeles broadcaster should not have used during usc. And juju Watkins, obviously playing very well, as she always does.
Greg Cody
Juju Watkins has caught the women's basketball world by storm. Certainly lit the world of Los Angeles on fire. Ouch.
Dan Le Batard
She said the world of Los Angeles. Right. Not the city. So I think she's fine.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugotz
I mean, I'd call my lawyer if I was her and kind of get away from that as much as possible for trying to figure out what's going on there, you know?
Greg Cody
Yeah, you gotta walk that one back. Yep. She didn't give her time. She will, right?
Chris Cody
I don't think so. I think. I don't think anyone is making a big deal out of this. I think it is just. Just an athletic cliche that most people probably didn't care about or notice. And therefore, there will be no need for an apology of any sort. And there would need no need for a clarification of any sort.
Greg Cody
I think that we're bringing it up on a major national show now that the onus is on her. Yeah, you got to Apologize. You misspoke. You know how many people lost their homes in the Los Angeles fires?
Chris Cody
Who was that? Who is that?
Stugotz
That's the mob. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Cody
It was an outraged mob speaking as one. It. All of them speaking at exactly the same syllable count and words at the same time. And it's a chorus of them.
Greg Cody
It's like the world's longest chant.
Chris Cody
It wasn't that long.
Greg Cody
It was just longer than that chant. Yeah, right.
Stugotz
You got to walk it back, because insurance companies will grasp at anything these days. You know what I mean? They're going to say, look, we have it right here on the record. It's saying that juju started these fires, and then boom, now it is. They're not going to cover any claims.
Chris Cody
Why don't you just leave now? Just leave. Since you're just. Since you already. Since you've already.
Mike Ryan
No, he's doing great.
Chris Cody
You've already checked out.
Jessica
Or just close your eyes, take a nap.
Chris Cody
Just.
Greg Cody
I'm not napping.
Chris Cody
Close your computer. Close. Just put your legs.
Jessica
Crisscross applesauce.
Chris Cody
Just pack everything up and just go. You've. You've just. You've completed a wonderful day. You're. You're finished.
Greg Cody
You can just. Trying to get rid of.
Jessica
I am kind of curious if in the next five minutes of this segment, you could fall asleep. Why don't you take your headphones off and try earnestly to fall asleep?
Greg Cody
I'm not the least bit tired here. You want me to sit up? All right, let me sit up in. Attention.
Dan Le Batard
Day. Nap day here.
Greg Cody
I'm sitting up at attention now. Ramrod straight. Look.
Seth Davis
What?
Greg Cody
Shoulders back.
Dan Le Batard
Ramming it.
Greg Cody
I've never exactly. Ramming it. I've never sat taller. Right now, sitting regally, your son, in.
Chris Cody
An effort to bail me out of the particular quagmire that you have dragged us into, just shouted urgently in my ear, have the Cheeto. I have the Cheeto. He's just. He's just shouting. Try. He's so used to producing you with YETI on your. On your podcast that he has rushed into the breach and come up with a topic that all of us could jump into, which is an $89,000 cheeto. Let's check out this particular Cheeto. What does it say that. What is it? Where is this being purchased? What? Why? Why?
Dan Le Batard
An unnamed buyer purchased it. I think it was Darren revelation.
Stugotz
Well, maybe.
Chris Cody
And what was the. Was it indeed $89,000? And why was it purchased for that much?
Dan Le Batard
Because it looks like Charizard.
Jessica
I'm telling you, you Give me a bag of Cheetos. I'll find one just like that.
Mike Ryan
No.
Dan Le Batard
Well, you should.
Jessica
There's one in every bag. Maybe we'll do this tomorrow. I'll pour out a bag of Cheetos and I will find something else in there that it won't be maybe Charizard in particular, but it'll be like something famous that we can then sell.
Greg Cody
That's a fraudulent Cheeto. I'll tell you exactly what happened. Somebody welded together like five or six different Cheetos into that design.
Chris Cody
That's not what happened.
Greg Cody
And I think can be done. It can be done.
Chris Cody
How do you guys feel about Cheetos? Have you got. When was the last time any of you. When was the last time you had a cheese?
Stugotz
Seven minutes ago.
Greg Cody
I love the very crunchy Cheetos. I don't like the soft ones. The big puffy ones.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I don't like the big puffy ones either.
Jessica
I don't think those are Cheetos.
Greg Cody
Aren't they?
Mike Ryan
Cheetos has a brand of that.
Jessica
Cheese puffs.
Greg Cody
Yeah, cheese puffs. But I like that type of Cheeto. I don't care if it cost $90,000. Put that in front of me. I'll eat it in a minute and a half.
Dan Le Batard
Well, there was another Cheeto that went for sale on auction that looked like Harambe in 2017. That one got sold for, I think, almost $100,000.
Chris Cody
How is that possible? How is that. How is that, Darren Revelle? How is that something that people are doing and that cannot be a business of investment that appreciates? There is simply no way that you can tell me that there's a way to purchase an $89,000 Cheeto that will then appreciate in value. How is that? Is the price tag. That is. That is assigned to the Cheeto.
Jessica
Think about the conversation starter that, like all your parties now.
Chris Cody
It's not a good conversation starter.
Jessica
I have a Cheeto that looks like Charizard.
Chris Cody
Yeah, that's not a good start.
Seth Davis
And the conversation starts.
Jessica
I mean, I can't help you.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Jessica
Oh, we have Cheetos here. Now let's see if I can find.
Stugotz
One of the apostles, I think.
Dan Le Batard
How would you. If you don't even know what Charizard, how are you gonna go through your bag of Cheetos and find one?
Mike Ryan
Greg, Is he the third sage of the Charmander evolution?
Stugotz
Oh, that cleared it up.
Mike Ryan
He's the third sage of the Charmander evolution.
Greg Cody
Okay, that's what I thought.
Chris Cody
Do you know who? Do you know who? Harambe is. Do you know the.
Greg Cody
The gorilla?
Seth Davis
Yeah. Yeah.
Jessica
This might be harder than I thought.
Greg Cody
Passed away, I believe. God.
Jessica
Anyone have any weld?
Seth Davis
What?
Jessica
I'd like to weld these together.
Greg Cody
Not like a welder.
Dan Le Batard
Does anyone have any weld?
Mike Ryan
I posited off mic. Do you think Flaming Hot Cheetos have surpassed regular Cheetos?
Dan Le Batard
No way. Wait, I didn't even know there were regular Cheetos. I thought they only came in hot.
Mike Ryan
Hot Cheetos are a thing. But still the best selling is, according to ChatGPT, still the most popular and best selling one is your traditional crunchy Cheeto. But then.
Dan Le Batard
So that might be true.
Mike Ryan
So second is Flamin Hot, which is Puffs. Puffs are third. Cheetos Flamin Hot Limone are fourth, Cheetos Cheddar Jalapeno fifth, Cheetos Extra Flamin Hot sixth and then Cheetos white Cheddar baked seventh.
Chris Cody
You guys made fun of me recently for loving the chili cheese Fritos, which are. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Better chip. Is it a chip Cheeto or Frito at Lebatard show. Is the Cheeto. Would the Cheeto count as a chip? Yeah, I would, but I don't think it.
Mike Ryan
Let me ask ChatGPT.
Chris Cody
Is it? Is it? Put it on the poll as well. Is the Cheeto a chip?
Jessica
This one kind of looks like a seahorse.
Greg Cody
Yeah, it does.
Jessica
How long you think? How much you think I can get.
Seth Davis
For this bad boy?
Stugotz
Oh, we need a seahorse, a prominent seahorse. To die and then just. Well.
Dan Le Batard
Or we need a seahorse that looks like. Jesus Christ.
Greg Cody
Yeah, there you go.
Chris Cody
Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Do you like the chili cheese Fritos? They're some of my favorites. I haven't had them in a while, but I've had those.
Greg Cody
They're great. Yeah, I love Fritos because they're so salty.
Chris Cody
Do you prefer the Frito to the Cheeto or do you have a. Do you.
Greg Cody
Yes.
Chris Cody
I don't like how messy the Cheeto is.
Greg Cody
Well, you're talking about the Crunchy Cheeto.
Mike Ryan
Not considered a chip because chip of what? You know, it's not. Not really a cheap. It's considered a snack and it's put in the chip pile because of its association with being a salty, crunchy snack.
Chris Cody
I'm glad we answered an important question today.
Mike Ryan
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 2: Ruth is a Tapper (feat. Seth Davis)
Release Date: March 10, 2025
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, host Dan Le Batard and co-host Stugotz engage in a dynamic conversation with special guest Seth Davis, the co-founder and Editor-in-Chief of Hoops HQ. Filmed from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the trio delves into a range of topics spanning sports, pop culture, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners a blend of insightful analysis and lighthearted banter.
White Lotus and Severance
The conversation kicks off with a discussion about popular TV series. Dan asks Seth if he's caught up on HBO's White Lotus.
Seth admits he's not fully up-to-date with White Lotus and finds Severance challenging to stay awake through due to its slow pacing.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the resurgence of Rick Pitino in college basketball and the broader landscape of college athletics.
Seth argues that Rick Pitino's coaching prowess and ability to attract top talent make his return unsurprising, despite previous controversies. He criticizes the FBI investigation into Pitino as a "nothing burger," suggesting it was a waste of resources that ultimately did little to tarnish Pitino's reputation compared to other coaches like Bill Self.
The discussion shifts to the shifting dynamics between the Atlantic Coast Conference (ACC) and the Southeastern Conference (SEC) in college athletics.
Seth highlights the SEC's financial strength and its impact on sports like men's basketball and baseball, contrasting it with the ACC's struggles. He emphasizes the need for the ACC to adapt to modern demands, referencing North Carolina's recent hiring of a general manager as a step towards modernization.
The conversation then delves into Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) deals and their implications for college sports.
Seth discusses how NIL deals are transforming the landscape, allowing players to monetize their personal brands, which in turn affects team dynamics and competitive balances. He underscores the necessity for universities to adapt financially to retain top talent.
Seth comments on recent coaching changes at the University of Miami, specifically the hiring of Jay Lucas from Duke.
He praises the strategic timing of the hire but points out the challenges Miami faces due to the impending transfer portal opening, suggesting that a delay could benefit their recruiting efforts.
The conversation takes a personal turn as Seth shares his brief foray into stand-up comedy and intermittent fasting.
Seth reveals his attempts at stand-up comedy during his time in New York City but ultimately chose to focus on his career at Sports Illustrated. He also discusses his commitment to intermittent fasting, blending humor with personal health practices.
Seth reflects on the transformation of Sports Illustrated in the digital age.
He laments the magazine's struggles to adapt to the digital era but acknowledges its resilience and the quality of its current content. Seth draws parallels with other businesses that failed to innovate, emphasizing the importance of adaptability in the modern media landscape.
As March Madness approaches, Seth shares his insights on potential sleeper teams to consider in tournament brackets.
He highlights teams like Drake, St. Mary's, and UC San Diego, noting their strategic play styles and potential to upset higher-seeded teams. Seth emphasizes the importance of tempo control in tournament success, suggesting that slower-paced, defense-oriented teams have a tactical edge.
The episode concludes with a series of humorous exchanges about an $89,000 Cheeto, blending absurdity with playful debate.
The hosts humorously dissect the plausibility of such an extravagant Cheeto purchase, interspersed with playful jabs and exaggerated scenarios. This segment showcases the show's signature blend of sports talk and comedic relief.
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a comprehensive exploration of current trends in college athletics, the impact of NIL deals, and the evolving dynamics within major sports conferences. Seth Davis provides expert insights into coaching strategies and team performances, while personal anecdotes and humorous segments add a relatable and entertaining dimension to the discussion. Whether you're a sports enthusiast or a casual listener, this episode delivers a balanced mix of analysis and levity, making it a valuable listen for a diverse audience.