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Dan Le Batard
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Jessica
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Mike Ryan
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Billy
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Billy
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Dan Le Batard
We got. Let me start again. I'm sorry.
Mike Ryan
No, keep that. That was good.
Billy
Please.
Jessica
I like that.
Dan Le Batard
All right, keep it. We five.
Stugats
No, no.
Mike Ryan
Come on, you coward. Keep it.
Dan Le Batard
Two. All right, keep it. Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes with Mike Golick. Echoes Echoes junior this is. Hold on. This is not. Not an echo chamber. And you will hear her as well on Zaslow Show 2.0 because she's going to be showing around Zaslow the Notre Dame campus. This is her new thing at Meadowlark Media to just show our employees around Notre Dame. She did it with Lucy. What what tips do you have for Zaslow before you guys head to Notre Dame here this weekend?
Jessica
Well, apparently there's like a lot of media coming to this little USC Notre Dame game. I don't know if you guys have ever of this rivalry, but it's been around for a hundred years and apparently the weather is going to be a little sloppy on Saturdays as you will likely have a bit of a wet tour around campus. But I do recommend walking around the quads and just letting letting it all soak in like me and Lucy did a couple weeks ago.
Zasla
What's the deal around Touchdown Jesus? Like, I. I was. I was in. You know, I was in Europe this past week, and I go to see the Mona Lisa, and as a huge crowd of people around, like, if I go to Touchdown Jesus.
Dan Le Batard
You were unimpressed by the Mona Lisa.
Zasla
Very small.
Billy
All right.
Zasla
Very small.
Mike Ryan
Is.
Zasla
Is Touchdown Jesus all it's cracked up to be?
Jessica
The difference between the Mona Lisa and Touchdown Jesus is about 5,000 square feet. So there's not much of a crowd around it because you can see it from farther away. Whereas when you're at the Louvre and you're in that little Mona Lisa rooms, as you know this, you got to go all the way up. You, like, where is it? I can't see. There's too many people in front of me. And then you see. And you're like, oh, there it is. And it's. You know, it's like a little. Little guy. So it's quite different, I would say.
Zasla
All right, so I'll be able to go right up to that.
Dan Le Batard
That.
Zasla
To homeboy Touchdown Jesus. And, you know, if you get too.
Jessica
Close, you won't be able to see it, because then you'll be, like, craning your neck up.
Billy
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
Are you excited about this?
Mike Ryan
As.
Dan Le Batard
Are you excited about going to South Bend for the first time?
Zasla
Yeah, I went last year, too. I didn't get to see everything on campus, but I went last year, too. I think South Bend's got some cool places to hang out. I'm not doing a show tomorrow night, actually, so I get to. Actually, I'm going to booze it up. So I'm pretty excited about tomorrow night, actually.
Dan Le Batard
Before the show, Jessica, can you explain to Zasla what he's in for? Like, do you believe it to be a unique experience among all college football experiences?
Jessica
I would say. I mean, yes and no. Like, it's. It's a lot. Like a lot of other really beautiful college campuses. It's unique in how small it is. I think a lot of people are surprised by that, and some of the landmarks on campus are pretty unique. But, no, I mean, I think it's going to be a great college football atmosphere. And I do think, Zaz, you're in for a bit of a hostile environment because as of the recording of this, there's still no announcement on if this rivalry will continue past this game. So we are kind of operating under the assumption that this may be the last Notre Dame USC game ever. And I think the fans are very upset about that right now, what is.
Zasla
The back and forth like, like tailgating all tonight game, USC fans, Notre Dame fans, like, will they be nasty with each other?
Jessica
I don't think they'll be nasty. I mean, maybe some, obviously there's always like outlier crazy people. But I've never been at a Notre Dame tailgate where people were nasty to anyone. And like that goes for most college football games. I feel like most home crowds I think are pretty welcoming of visitors and like, you know, a lot of Notre Dame people have LA friends and vice versa. So I don't think it's going to be like people are going to be like fighting, fist fighting each other in the parking lot. But I do think it's going to be a, probably a little rowdier than the Boise State crowd that Lucy and I were in town for, which was like a warm, a warm October day. A little lazy vibe out there. I think this is going to be a lot more charged.
Mike Ryan
And Jess, this is a massive game for Notre Dame is probably the last. We'll see what kind of twists and turns the season takes. But this is on your schedule, the real last chance to impress a committee. And if you run the table, you should make the cfp. Do you feel the same way?
Jessica
Yeah, definitely. I mean Pitt all of a sudden is playing a lot better with their new quarterback. So they, Notre Dame travels to Pittsburgh next month. Maybe they could be ranked. I don't, I don't know. We'll see. But yeah, this is certainly would be a great boost on the Notre Dame resume because like you said, they play Boston College, who I believe Mike checked me on this. I think UConn is a favorite against Boston College.
Mike Ryan
I couldn't believe that.
Jessica
Couldn't believe that Boston College on like a multi game skid. They have just been really bad the last few weeks. So Notre Dame goes to Boston College. They play Navy and Syracuse without Steven Jelly. So Stanford at Stanford to end the season. So yeah, there's not a ton of opportunities for ranked wins in there, which is why they probably should have beaten Texas A and M at home. You probably shouldn't have lost by one point and you probably should have stopped them on 4th and 11. But if they do win this game against USC, I think that would be a huge help.
Mike Ryan
Is this, I'm sorry, Dan, Is this a one year where not being in a, in a conference really hurts you? Because that's the conference championship would certainly solidify that. I don't know if you're nervous at all about not making the CFP because you don't have one. But I've heard a lot of experts weigh in, like, this is the one time where their independence may haunt them a little bit.
Jessica
I don't think any Notre Dame fan if. If Notre Dame goes like, say, 9 and 3 and is on the playoff bubble and misses it, I don't think any Notre Dame fan alive would be like, man, I wish we were in the Big Ten this season. So, no, I think they should have just beaten Texas A and M at home, honestly. And they should beat USC at home if they wanna make the playoff, like, win the games. That's really what it comes down to.
Dan Le Batard
I don't know that there's ever been a video that I can play for Jessica that is more in her wheelhouse than that Pope video from earlier in the show. Let's play that for Jessica, because this is genuinely and generally shocking to see a Pope. This is not a Pope in costume. This is a Pope who's a White Sox fan being troll by a Cubs fan in Vatican City.
Jessica
So sad, Dan. How could he do this to me?
Billy
This is.
Jessica
People keep saying, oh, man, Chicago Pope. You must feel so. So happy, so represented. No, he's a White Sox fan. He's. He's. He's laughing at me right now. The Pope is laughing at me, Dan. And I deserve it. I deserve it for being a Cubs fan. And this is what I've said my whole life. God doesn't love the cubs. It's obvious. 2016 was a fluke and it sent the whole universe into some sort of dark, black hole tailspin that we still haven't fought our way out of. God does not love the Chicago Cubs, Dan, and neither does the Pope.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll, please. Was the Pope trash talking? Because that's as close as a Pope's ever going to come to trash talking, is it not?
Jessica
I love that he responded in Spanish first, too, and then translated it into English. That was solid Pope work by him.
Dan Le Batard
I have a number of different college football controversies to get to. So which do you want? Handshake gate, tortilla gate, or Trent Dilfer being fired by uab? Which one would you like first?
Jessica
Well, I. I'm shocked you guys haven't covered the Trent Dilfer news because it was the big college football head coaching news of the weekend. He was let go by uab. But no, let's talk about the tortillas first, Dan, because this is one of those silly college things that. It started off a little silly, then it got real, and then it Got real. Now there's fines involved. And now Kansas's head coach kind of looks like a liar.
Dan Le Batard
A liar.
Jessica
Dan, you know of the Texas Tech tortilla throwing tradition?
Dan Le Batard
I do. It was up for Hampton Farms nuttiest fan of the week a couple of weeks ago.
Jessica
Love those peanuts. Anyway, so this past weekend, huge game between Texas Tech and Kansas. And the fans were throwing tortillas, of course. And over the summer the Big 12 said if you throw tortillas, you'll get a warning and then eventually you'll get 15 yard penalties because you can't throw stuff on the field. Which, you know, makes a lot of sense. Even though tortillas very soft, they don't hurt. They're not hurting anyone. But it is a pain, pain in the ass to clean up. And you shouldn't throw stuff on the field regardless. Anyway, so the Texas Tech fans were throwing the tortillas, Texas Tech was getting fined. And Lance Leopold, the Kansas head coach, was not happy after the game. And there was a very awkward handshake between him and Joey McGuire, the Texas Tech head coach. And, and it. You can hear the audio on it. I'm not sure if we have the video, Dan. If we do, we'll play it. But you can hear the audio. Here's Some expletives were said during this very tense handshake.
Billy
Yeah, I know I can't do anything about.
Jessica
You want me to do something about it? I know.
Zasla
What's he supposed to do about it?
Mike Ryan
That's what he said.
Jessica
Well, so after this game, so Texas Tech won big. But I will add, one of the penalties was when the game was still pretty close. So both coaches were, I think, exasperated by the fact that the tortillas kept coming even after the first 15 yard penalty. Afterwards, Leopold said that someone threw a pocket knife at one of his players on the field. So not only were, not only were the fans throwing tortillas, someone threw a pocket knife. He said this in his post game press conference. And then Joey Maguire did his postgame press conference and said that he needs the fans to like chill, chill out a little bit. Which is really all he can do, right, Is like, tell the fans, like, please stop. You're hurting our football team. We're actually really good this year. You're going to blow this for us. So subsequently, Dan, the Texas Tech apparently submitted footage to the Big 12 Conference showing that they think a Kansas staffer dropped the pocket knife on the sideline. I have watched the video several times. It's. I can't tell what the hell's going on in this video? But apparently it shows this Kansas staffer dropping a pocket knife on the Kansas sideline. So I don't know, to make it.
Dan Le Batard
Look to plant that there was evidence.
Jessica
Allegedly, I mean, I don't. Intent. I don't know the intent. Both teams did get fined, so Texas Tech was fined for the tortilla throwing, $25,000. And Kansas was fined for Lance Leopold's comments about the Big 12, which he said, like, the officials didn't handle it well and the league hasn't handled the tortilla thing well, so they got fined. And now there's this further speculation on what the hell happened with this pocket knife. That as of the recording of this, Dan. I don't know. I don't know where the pocket knife came from.
Dan Le Batard
Well, but if you say thr park pocket knife, I think most of us assume after our knife throwing adventures a week ago that most people are assuming that the pocket knife is being thrown with the blade out. You're suggesting that it's just a pocket knife that's falling out of somebody's pocket that might not even have the blade out.
Jessica
Well, I. So when Leopold said this in the post game press conference, it was implied that it was like aggressively thrown onto the field by fans and like hit a player. And now it seems like it was potentially just fell out of someone's pocket or dropped out of someone's pocket. So I again, I watched the video and the videos are like, you can clearly see here that this guy did this and I can't see shit, Dan. So you want to watch the video and tell me, but it's very, very bad luck for Kansas because this is why you wait until your Monday press conference to be really like emotional and call people out. Because then maybe you take a step and then you're like, okay, I probably should. Should not say what I was gonna say Saturday night.
Mike Ryan
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Jessica
Hi, everybody.
Mike Ryan
When we hang out, and we hang out often, we're friends. I consider us friends.
Billy
Yeah, me too.
Mike Ryan
We're often toasting the good times. And what am I toasting with?
Billy
With Miller Lite.
Mike Ryan
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Jessica
No, it is a horsey.
Mike Ryan
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Jessica
I know.
Mike Ryan
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Jessica
Oh, says.
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Mike Ryan
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Jessica
I just texted my best friend Hannah and asked her who she thinks is gonna win tonight. And she has never watched a hockey game this entire season. She's picking the Rangers, and she's an astrophysicist. She's real smart.
Mike Ryan
I'll text Joey.
Stugats
Dan, you know what I found out about Hannah today? An anagram.
Mike Ryan
Stugats.
Dan Le Batard
You said Anna or Hannah.
Jessica
Hannah.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, I don't know.
Stugats
Anna too, depending on how you spell it. Even though there's two ends, it's also an anagram. Same with one end. Ana. Anagrams are fun. A Hannah Graham.
Billy
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Dan Le Batard
When you talk about bad looks, how do we feel about the blue collar jacket look in Michigan here? How do we feel about going to the press conference with a Jack has your name over your heart, and you're giving off a whole lot of blue.
Billy
Collar collar jacket on today. It's. We got to go back to work right now. There's. There's no pouting. There's no, you know, worrying about it. There's no making excuses for it. That's. That's all we got to do. And. And that's all I know. And that's what we're going to do right now.
Mike Ryan
Now, Jess. This has led to spectacular Photoshopping from college football, social media, and corresponding captions. This is a bit ridiculous.
Jessica
Can I say something controversial?
Dan Le Batard
Yes, of course.
Jessica
I like the jacket. I think it's kind of cute. So, I mean, everyone wants to clown Sharon Moore. It's a cute jacket. I like it. And I get what he's going for. Go back to work. He lost to USC on the road, but, I mean, maybe he's just flexing on everyone because he's like, look, I got a jacket with my name. I would wear that. If it said Jessica on it, I would wear that.
Mike Ryan
But this is. This is where artificial intelligence can be used for good, because you get all sorts of Photoshops, like him wearing a chef's outfit with a caption. That's why I'm wearing Chef White to remind the team that and fans, just keep calm and let me cook. Or one as him as an astronaut, which is accompanied by. As a program. We have to take small steps before we can make giant leaps.
Jessica
Nice. Dan, Can I. Can I give you three guesses on who UAB's interim head coaches right now?
Dan Le Batard
Sure. Watson Brown.
Jessica
No. I'll give you a hint. His father was also an ESPN employee.
Billy
I saw it.
Zasla
It'll be fun if you get it.
Dan Le Batard
Do we know if Billy's okay? Do we know there was a pocket knife thrown in the back room, and I don't think Billy's okay. And I don't want to kill him.
Jessica
I also feel like I am, like, attending someone else's funeral right now, and it's kind of like a weird vibe. But we already recorded our last Mystery Crate, so it's not like I haven't addressed this. With Billy already on air.
Dan Le Batard
I thought Billy was your favorite among everyone here. I thought Billy and you had the greatest chemistry on and off air. You can say whatever you like. For those not listening to Mystery Crate about Billy's final couple of days, I think people.
Jeremy
Jess and I had good chemistry.
Jessica
Yeah, that was the greatest. I thought that you thought that Jeremy was my favorite also.
Jeremy
Yeah, I also thought that you thought. I definitely didn't think that myself, which isn't true. Our friendship.
Jessica
I'm just kidding. Okay, give me another guess. Former father, former ESPN employee, son played college football, was an analyst at Alabama for a long time, was on the UAB staff.
Dan Le Batard
I'm hardly listening. Listening to your hints. And I didn't want to play this game when we started. And so you can go Ahead and just.
Jessica
Billy loves the guessing game. Billy, you guess. You love the guessing game.
Stugats
I mean, it's Mort's son, Mortensen.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, Chris Mortensen's son is the uab.
Billy
He works.
Dan Le Batard
Coach Trent Dilfer was terrible. Like, how long did he last? A year and a half. Two. Two years. How long did he last?
Billy
He was awful.
Mike Ryan
But at least he was a super nice guy the entire time.
Zasla
Definitely not, you know, yelling at kids.
Dan Le Batard
I think we should just keep doing that. Keep giving jobs to people who haven't done anything to earn those jobs. Just put them right at the top. We should do that with pool holes, too. The Orioles and the Angels are fighting over pool holes. Just keep giving people jobs when they haven't done anything in the way of training for jobs. What is that, Mike? The AI thing is a complicated one because I see that Robin Williams family, MLK's family, they're desperately asking everyone to stop putting their beloved family members in AI videos.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. And I'm doing my part by liking every MLK wrestling video.
Billy
MLK is amazing.
Mike Ryan
You know, it makes sense he would be a great wrestler because he's such a great org.
Zasla
I love it.
Mike Ryan
Oh, my God.
Zasla
Big heel turn Unexpected Dan by MLP he's the dream.
Mike Ryan
He is the dream. I saw a boiler room set from George Washington the other day. That was cool. Yeah. We're in a dangerous place, and this is all going to be used for bad. But for the moment, let's enjoy some of the fun stuff.
Dan Le Batard
Speaking of a dangerous place, Jessica, James Franklin just changed all the rules on how much time and how much winning coaches have to do.
Billy
Right.
Jessica
Sorry, I was hardly listening to you. Trent Dilfer's record was 9 and 21, Dan at UAB. And he also, like Mike said, made a lot of jerky comments, like when he had his grandson join him in a press conference and was like, what?
Billy
This is.
Jessica
It's not like it's Alabama, which is something you probably shouldn't say if you coach at uab. But, yeah, the James Franklin thing is shocking. I. I was less shocked when I found out his buyout's not like a $50 million lump sum payment, which some of them are. So they're going to be able to pay it out over a few years. And, like, there's been a lot of conversation about this, like, duty to mitigate clause in his buyout, which means that if he gets another job, the money will offset. But that's pretty standard among college coaching contracts. Mike. I don't know if Mario's got one of those. You probably know more contract details than us lay people. But it's going to be interesting what the appetite is for hiring him at another coaching job too because he's also someone that I think like a lot of fans of non Penn State teams, maybe even including Penn State the last couple weeks, like they've been clowning him for a long time for his reputation of not being able to win a big game. Now I have seen a number of Wisconsin fans say we don't even care who it is, just get Luke Fickle out of here. And this may in fact be Luke Fickle's last game coaching Wisconsin because they have had a terr. He has not been fired yet and they play Ohio State on Saturday. I'm not sure what the spread is there, but I imagine it's like five touchdowns. So I'm curious to see if he does get another head coaching job or if he does broadcasting or what. But I think the buyout number we will just kind of have to wait and see what that ends up being.
Zasla
I think it's interesting what you're saying there about fans around college football for years clowning him and now this idea that maybe he'll take a media job. That's weird to me because I feel.
Dan Le Batard
Like Jeremy's got some interesting facts about this. Like his buyout is super strange.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Jeremy
Front Office sports reported that when he made signed the extension with Penn State that he not only has to look for another job, he has to seek out the highest possible payment for said job within his skill set so that Penn State can play. Get the difference. Difference what? I think personally we should hire him.
Mike Ryan
Yes. He's incentivized to take this.
Billy
Yeah.
Jessica
But you. So yes, like the language says, like diligently search for new employment in good faith. But. And it has to be market rate. So I guess yeah, whatever you're paying Billy. So that'll offset the buyout by about let's say $200,000 over 10 years. I'm not sure.
Billy
So.
Stugats
I saw a thing and I'm wondering if you knew that that James Franklin like not only if he gets another job, he has to find another job and if he doesn't. Yeah, he has to look for.
Jessica
Wait, Billy.
Billy
I didn't hear that.
Jessica
Tell me more.
Stugats
Well, he turns out it's not just he could take the money, he has to find the job, the highest paying job and it has to be the most money possible from said job at that role could be media or coaching.
Jessica
I believe that's Very interesting. Billy, Sam Pittman, who was fired a couple weeks ago, had this duty to mitigate clause in his contract, and he was like, actually, I'll take less money if we strike that because I want to retire. And they were like, sure. So they renegotiated it. So now he does not have to look for new employees. He's like, I'm done.
Mike Ryan
That's amazing.
Jessica
Respect.
Dan Le Batard
It would be funny if Billy weren't here Monday. But in that chair, James Franklin was my other idea. Was Udonis Haslam replacing Billy in terms of just visual.
Jeremy
Same vibe.
Stugats
This is rough for Key and Michael Key. What's he going to do now?
Jessica
True.
Billy
Yeah.
Jessica
I mean, he's really the big loser in all of this, if you think about it.
Dan Le Batard
Can you tell me, Jessica, a team that you think. Think not enough people are talking about as good. I've got two in Texas Tech and South Florida. I think both of those teams are actually playoff good, and not enough people are talking about the fact that I think they're playoff good. Do you have anyone in the landscape where you're like, man, I really like what that team is doing, but I don't think anyone is paying real attention to that team.
Jessica
Oh, that's a great question. Yes. I have so many, but I feel like South. That South Florida game, I don't know if you guys watched it last weekend. That was incredible. The North Texas.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I mean, they scored very easily.
Jessica
It was crazy. It ended up being like, just how many points did they score in the span of, like, six minutes? Yeah, well, I mean, it was absurd. Let me think about that for a second. So, I mean, I don't think BYU is, like, awesome, but they are undefeated right now, which I think a lot of people would be surprised to find out. But this weekend, Holy war. BYU in Utah, and Utah is also ranked, even though they lost, lost by a lot to Texas Tech. So I think that's going to be a fun game. Honestly, like, not. There's just so many Big 12 teams right now with like, one or two losses that they just keep beating up on each other, which is, like, totally expected. But, like, yeah, Cincinnati's quarterback's been really good. There's another Big 12 game this weekend, TCU and Baylor, where I don't think either team's like, like, great. So this doesn't really answer your question, but right now the total is, like 65 and a half, and both quarterbacks are, like, top 10 in, like, adjusted yards per drop back. I want to say, like, they're. They're just like slinging it a lot. So that could be like an old School Big 12 game this weekend. That would be fun. And then I think, like, if you're dykes or Aranda, it's like, oh, like you. You might be in a little bit of a. A warmer seat situation after that one. But yeah, to answer your question, Dan, like, there's. This is sort of like if you like October around like this time of year, once a lot of teams are done with their. Their bye weeks, this is like moving weekend where like you get into like the meat of the conference schedules like Washington and Michigan could be a really good game. Like, those are two teams. Like, Michigan's obviously got two losses, but they've only got one loss in conference right now. Washington has the loss to Ohio State, which was tough, but they hung in there for. For a few quarters. But that's a game where like I'm, I'm. We'll know a lot about whichever team loses that and like, we'll start stacking some of these like conference losses too, which tells you kind of where more teams are. But yeah, I don't know. I mean this. There's just so many good games this weekend. I don't even know where to begin.
Dan Le Batard
I like Maryland too, but Maryland coughed up that game September Maryland and I. And I do think that. Mike, you like Washington against Oregon, right?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, I like Washington. I'm looking at that Penn State, Oregon result. And I know Signetti just had his signature victory. I am not trying to take anything away from that is a difficult place to play. The record proves that. But I don't think Oregon is as good. And I look at a road trip to Iowa as a trouble spot for Oregon. Like I said, I locked in Oregon to not make the playoffs. And I think a team that's going to creep back in there because of the conference that they play in and we saw one win in the SEC is a get right in the eyes of many. Texas is going to creep back into this conversation, I think.
Dan Le Batard
Are you willing to do this publicly, though?
Mike Ryan
Put the town on alert? Yeah, I'll be on Iowa and I'll be on Washington when Oregon plays both those teams.
Dan Le Batard
Iowa came very close to beating Indiana. Like we.
Mike Ryan
Another team that I kind of like.
Dan Le Batard
We would not be talking about Signetti like they were a play away from beating Indiana. We would not be talking about. I went Signetti this way if they had lost to Iowa.
Jessica
I will. I'll do you one more. We wouldn't be talking about it if that Game wasn't on Peacock because I feel like not a lot of people watched it because it was on Peacock and you can't put it in your quad box.
Dan Le Batard
I'm wandering around listening to it on satellite radio because that's my new thing on Saturdays. Just listening to local Iowa broadcasts. Talk about disposable furniture.
Stugats
I have to put your business out there, but you also listen to a lot of Pitbull.
Billy
Globalization.
Stugats
I got a picture like once a week from you listening to Pitbull on.
Jeremy
Sirius as you're driving around, which is awesome.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Jessica. Good talking to you. We'll talk to you next week. And I'll do a better job if you want to ask me any questions, quiz me on UAB football again. I'll do a better job of listening next time.
Jessica
We can talk about the skims. Fake bus thongs next week, too.
Dan Le Batard
Check her out.
Mike Ryan
I saw that.
Jessica
Those are crazy.
Mike Ryan
What's with those vagina hairs, chick?
Dan Le Batard
Check her out on.
Stugats
Hey, Maxwell.
Mike Ryan
That's Maxwell Frost, mystery craze.
Stugats
Oh, my God.
Dan Le Batard
You're really bringing in Congressman Maxwell Frost?
Billy
No, I'm talking some cubes.
Jeremy
He just happened to pop in the.
Mike Ryan
Zoom right when my P's and Q's and.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Jessica. We'll gather ourselves here and welcome in the Congressman more appropriately than with pubic talk, in a second.
Mike Ryan
Well, I'm glad he stayed there.
Billy
I mean, politics. Pubic talk might not be that much different, you know. Yeah.
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Dan Le Batard
Don LeBatard Billy's got a conundrum here. He's got a dog now and he doesn't know how to socialize with other dog owners.
Stugats
Stugats dogs Dan, I don't know if you're aware of dogs. Dogs like to smell each other and kind of like socialize and all that stuff. So then I'm holding on to a leash with my dog on it while another owner is doing the same thing and I don't know how to interact with this owner in this case, like, hey, you know, my dog likes your dog's butt smell. As you guys know, I'm not good at small talk. So like this is a nightmare for me because what do I talk to these other dog owners about?
Jeremy
I experienced this exact same thing with my kid at a park.
Stugats
It's the same thing. Kids and dogs.
Dan Le Batard
Basically the same, same exact same show are kids and dogs. Basically because my 2 year old wants.
Jeremy
To run over and play with other.
Billy
Kids and all of a sudden I'm.
Stugats
Standing there and our two kids are.
Jeremy
Kind of chasing each other and we're.
Billy
Like, hey, yep, there's our kids.
Jeremy
How about that?
Billy
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Dan Le Batard
We like to talk to Congressman Maxwell Frost. We're getting, as you can tell, a little more and more comfortable with him in ways that are inappropriate. He is from Florida's 10th district. He represents the people of his hometown in Orlando and central Florida. And he's been giving us fairly honest and factual information at a time. It's hard to get honest and factual information. So thank you for joining us again. Congressman, what can you tell us about the government shutdown that is most problematic? And where is all of this headed?
Billy
Yeah, well, thanks for having me on, man. And yeah, so essentially, people who don't know the federal government is currently shut down. What does that mean? It means Congress has Congress has not done its damn job to make sure that there's funding allocated for the government. And when that doesn't happen, the government essentially shuts down. Down. A lot of people get furloughed, which means people are told, don't come to work, you're not going to get paid. There's a lot of people who are told you have to come to work or else you're going to get fired. And by the way, you're also not going to get paid. But when the government opens, you'll receive your paycheck then. So that's a lot of our TSA workers, people working as a Social Security Administration, my staff, you know, a lot of just different people who work in the federal government. And the whole reason we're in this situation is number one one, we've been talking about this for months. We know the date is coming up. Like, it's not like this comes out of nowhere. People in Congress know that in X amount of months the government will shut down. But what always happens is they wait till the last minute to do anything about it. And that's what Speaker Mike Johnson did. Wait until the last minute. We got a bill maybe literally just like a day or two in advance that kept out something very important for people don't know at the end of this year, year, the Affordable Care act tax subsidies are going to expire. What does that mean? It means that especially in Florida and across the country, people's health care is going to go up anywhere from 50 to 300%. So it is our job to handle that in this funding bill. They don't want to do that. And so they rather let the government shut down than actually handle health care. Why would anyone want people to pay more for health care? They're trying to make more room in the federal budget to give a tax break to billionaires and mega corporations. I mean, it's like the same tired story of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poor. And that's exactly what's going on right now.
Dan Le Batard
Now, what are the details that you find most problematic about how this affects people who can't actually afford it financially.
Billy
It's the fact that we, you know, Donald Trump said in this meeting, well, let's handle it at the end of the year. Here's the problem. Open enrollment for health care on the Affordable Care act, which the biggest marketplace is Florida, right? The most people in the country on the Affordable Care act are in Florida. I have 200,000 people in my district alone in central Florida that if we don't do anything, we'll get a letter. And many of them have already gotten a letter letter that says, hey, next year your health care is going to go up anywhere from 50 to 300%. The average we're seeing is about double. And we got to think about that. Maybe for a billionaire, that's not a big deal, but for a working class person, you get that letter, you're going to start making decisions now based on what you have to pay to keep your family healthy next year. That means we've gotten reports from people locally. We did a survey and asked people, tell us what decisions you're making. Now here are some of the decisions. We're going to have to cut our grocery bill and how half we're thinking about moving out of our current rental unit because we're paying too much for rent. We need to put aside some of that money for health care next year. Other ones, which is like, I haven't seen my parents in years and years and years and I'm canceling the trip because I can't afford it because I'm going to pay double for my health care next year. So, like, this is real. This isn't some abstract BS that politicians are using for talking points like, this is going to impact real people. And the disturbing part about it is we can do something about it right now. Now, like, Congress is the only job in the world where you can say, you know what, I'm a clock in at the end of the year. Like, Mike Johnson literally came out and said, the House of Representatives is not going back into session until the government opens. But we're the ones that have to open the government. I mean, like, it makes, like it makes no sense to me. And this is part of the reason I understand why most of the country hates Congress is because of this kind of thing going on. And it's really simple. The speaker needs to call us back to session. We need to actually fix the health care problem, pass the funding bill, open up the government and move on. But Dan, there's also one other part of this that some people don't know about. And it's that in Arizona there was a Democrat elected in a special election. She was elected like 23 days ago. When Mike Johnson brings back the House, he has to swear her in to be an actual representative. He has a problem with that because she said that the first thing she's going to do is be the last signature on the petition to release the Epstein files. And unfortunately that's a big part of this, is that he doesn't want that petition to have the last signature.
Dan Le Batard
How big a part of the Epstein files is everything that's happening with Trump's behavior beyond just trying to distract us with other nonsense that includes just bombing random boats?
Billy
I think it has a lot to do with it. And here's the thing, number one, we know from reports that Trump is in the Epstein files. To what degree? What did he do? This and that we don't know. But we want to see. And that's the reason we want to have it it. But I promise you that a lot of his friends are implicated too in this as well. And that's why he's telling his own supporters who a lot of people who supported Trump said, I'm doing this in part because he said one of the top things he's going to focus on is the Epstein case, which for people don't know, I'm on the Epstein investigation right now, before this year, it's not something I knew a ton about. Now I've spent hours and hours with survivors, with lawyers. I was in the Alex Acosta deposition. And I can tell you this is something thing that does need to be uncovered, of course, for the victims and survivors. But also this is like a cover up of epic proportions that implicates Republicans and yes, it implicates Democrats too. And for people who tell me, Maxwell, there might be Democrats implicated, I don't give a shit if you're implicated in it. You need to be held accountable. I don't care who you are. And we're in this issue now where Trump on one hand is gaslighting his own supporters, saying the Epstein thing is nothing, it's a Democrat hoax. It's not a hoax. This is real. Like, and this happened, being from Florida, a lot of this happened in our state with a lot of our government officials either looking the other way or empowering this pedophile, rapist, human trafficker. And so we need justice on this. And it's the same story of rich elite people playing by a different set of rules. And again, I don't care if you have a R or D next to your name, you need to be held accountable.
Mike Ryan
So Donald Trump was positioned effectively as a populist candidate, but the policy is not good for most Americans, which is why them knowing this, you have the Voting Rights act presently being heard by the Supreme Court. There will be an attempt to gerrymander and rig things. That way, you have Dominion voting being purchased by a Republican ally. What are the countermeasures to this? Because they have a fair amount of power and they don't really seem to have a lot of respect for court orders or court rulings. They'll just keep appealing and find an ally there. What can the Dems do without the House, without the Senate, without the presidential power, without even the Supreme Court court? What can they do to counter this?
Billy
I've spent before I was elected in Congress, I was an activist and organizer fighting in the grassroots. So I'm used to not having all the power I want. And so when you don't have all the power you want, you use all the power that you got. And the fact of the matter is, there's a few things here. Number one, the court rulings are still important because we've still gotten a lot of wins. A lot of people don't realize this, but throughout history, fascists and authoritarian, part of the way they exert power is by making people believe that they have power that they actually don't have. And it's about blatantly lying about things. 45% of all of Trump's executive orders or actions have been stopped, reversed or paused by courts, and they've actually been stopped, reversed or paused. Now there's still another 55% to worry about. I'm not saying that's the end all be all, but it is something that we should be doing. And what we do need is courage from our politicians to put their selves on the line for the greater good. And I'm gonna give you an example. Alligator Alcatraz. We spoke about this last time I was on, not just myself, but myself and other elected officials said, you know what? We have privilege as electeds. Let's demand that we be let into this facility. But not just to go in for like a photo op and to talk about it on the news. Let's go and talk with the plaintiffs that are suing them and figure out what do you need to know about this facility. So we did that. I walked in with a binder this big. I've been inside that facility twice and was able to fill that binder with Very spec answers to questions they had which informed the lawsuit. And it's going to go back and forth. Unfortunately, they're starting to become, they're starting to be more people in Alligator Alcatraz. But it was shut down for a while and the judge in her decision actually quoted my declaration after I left the place saying this is what Congressman Maxwell Frost found and his findings in there. I bring this up to say that oversight and seeing ourselves as people who can put ourselves in situations that, that other citizens can't go in, I think is really important. The other thing is people power, power on the streets. There's a no Kings protest this on the 18th. A lot of people come up to me and say, Maxwell, what's the purpose of a protest? The purpose of a protest is it is oftentimes the entry point for people to get involved in political advocacy. We know that one protest in and of itself doesn't solve all the problems, but what it does do is it shows an authoritarian that you don't have the people on your side. And it gives the organizers on the ground an opportunity to see a bunch of people they've never seen before and get them involved in the day to day things that are going on. People ask me all the time, Maxwell, what can I do? And I always tell them, get involved in a local group that will answer that question for you every day. Because I can give you some abstract things that are really important and some tactics. But there's people in your community right now who are doing this work work, who quite frankly have been asking for your help for a long time. The good thing is it's not too late. Get involved and protests allow us to do that as well.
Dan Le Batard
Beyond the health care crisis and what you were telling us earlier, what do you see as the greatest life and death dangers involved with the government shutdown?
Billy
Honestly, I'm thinking a lot about our federal workers. And I did a roundtable last week with a bunch of them from the TSA from Social Security Administration. People gotta realize that starting a few days ago they're not receiving any pay. So if this government shutdown goes for another three months, that means that these people will not get a paycheck for three months, but they're still expected to go to work. And who are these people? They're the people making sure that we're safe when we fly on a plane, that there aren't weapons, or even worse, getting put on a plane when we're on there. These are the people sending Social Security checks to our seniors and to People in our community that are not getting paid anymore. And I didn't realize this until I sat in the meeting that in this meeting, 90% of the people there, both of the spouses, the mother and the father, were both federal workers. So that means you got zero money coming in. And these are civil servants who Donald Trump and Elon Musk have been alienating, have been literally in Project 2025, it says that their goal is to traumatize federal workers. These are civil servants. These are working class people who are not getting rich off of working for the government. They're there because believe in a mission and they're not getting paid right now. And their voices in the mix of all this political bs, their voices are going to be buried. But I'm committed to making sure people understand what's going on. So if you can, you're going to see a lot more food drives, you're going to see a lot more support groups locally rise up to help get them gas cards and feed people and stuff like that. I'm going to be organizing that in Orlando as well. Get involved if you're listening to this, because we got to support the them.
Dan Le Batard
The ICE raids are horrific. Yesterday, Los Angeles county declared a state of emergency over immigration raids. Can you tell me please, where we are with something that feels less American than most of the things that I've experienced in my life in America?
Billy
This is. It's a lot of things. And one thing I want to bring up about the military occupying our cities being unleashed on US citizens, on Americans, ice, mass ICE agents going and kidnapping. And like I try to be very blunt about this, not to be, not to exaggerate, but this isn't even mass deportation. Deportation is a legal process you go through. They're not even following that. This is kid. They're kidnapping people in our communities and literally human trafficking them to other places. But the thing is that I always encourage people follow the money. A lot of these issues at the end of the day have to do with enriching, pitching a few people, a few friends of the president. And actually this is no different because what's going on is the big ugly bill was passed a few months ago and that gives ICE the most amount of money they've ever had. They have more money than the United States Marines. Where do you think that money is going to? Because I actually go to my local jail every month and I do a roundtable with people being held by ice. And when you talk to them about who's transporting you, who are the people you talk with a lot of times it's not even ice. It's a third party company that's being paid millions of taxpayer dollars to do this kidnapping operation. And what they're doing is greatly expanding the prison industrial complex where we have all these private prisons that are making hell of money, tons of money, millions of taxpayer dollars on locking up people who, most of whom have never broken the law before and a law abiding immigrants or people undocumented. And so that's something that we're investigating on the over committee and people have to pay attention to it. This agency is not rogue. What do I mean by that? ICE was created to go into communities to find people. So if you disagree with that, then you disagree with ice.
Dan Le Batard
I have no time left, so let's keep this lighter and quick. All right, we need to get one bet from the congressman. Billy, Bet the house. Give it to me as short as you can, please. Bet the house.
Stugats
It's time to build.
Billy
The House of Representative.
Stugats
This week's guest is a cadet major in the Civil Air Patrol. 25, became the youngest member of Congress and first jet se to serve. He represents Florida's 10th district in the.
Billy
U.S. house of Representatives.
Stugats
West with Wyoming cowboys gallop Colorado Springs to take on Air Force Falcon.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you for keeping it short, Billy.
Billy
Air Force.
Mike Ryan
Air Force.
Billy
Air Force.
Stugats
Air Force.
Billy
Air Force. Go airport.
Dan Le Batard
All right. Thank you, Congressman. I appreciate the time. We appreciate the time and we appreciate the work.
Billy
Thank you. Appreciate you guys.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you, Billy, for keeping that short the way that I knew that you would.
Mike Ryan
Hey, audience, I got a special treat for you because I want to talk to you about Miller Lite, but I want to talk to you about Miller Lite with my good friend Rose. Hey, Rose.
Jessica
Hi, everybody.
Mike Ryan
When we hang out and we hang out often, we're friends. I consider us friends.
Billy
Yeah, me too.
Mike Ryan
We're often toasting the good times. And what am I toasting with?
Billy
With Miller Lite.
Mike Ryan
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Jessica
No, it is a horsey a horsey.
Mike Ryan
All right, well, stop doing that. And here's a kicker. Miller light is just 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. The original light beer since 1975. That's right. And still hitting different five decades later. You're so good at this, Rose.
Billy
I know.
Mike Ryan
So whatever your game day looks like, remember, remember, Miller time is always a good time. Look at us. We're a great tag team. High five again. Can you do that? That beer sound one more time. And the horse sound one more time. I regret asking you about that one, but the Miller Light sound is good. Miller Lite great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com shan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsively. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Sin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounce ounces. No, it says oh, says.
Episode: Hour 2: Sorry, I Was Hardly Listening
Guests: Jessica Smetana, Congressman Maxwell Frost
Date: October 16, 2025
In this lively episode, Dan Le Batard and the crew (Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Billy, Jeremy, and Jessica Smetana) are joined by Congressman Maxwell Frost for a multi-topic journey through college football, quirky media moments, and the intricate realities of government shutdowns and national politics. The show blends irreverent humor, pointed sports analysis, and an informative yet casual conversation with a sitting U.S. congressman.
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| Segment | Start | End | |-----------------------------------------------|-----------|----------| | Notre Dame/USC discussion | 01:46 | 06:54 | | Pope as White Sox/Cubs troll | 07:14 | 08:32 | | College football tortilla/pocket knife story | 08:38 | 13:06 | | College football memes & blue collar jacket | 17:32 | 18:37 | | AI deepfakes & college coach buyouts | 18:59 | 25:32 | | Underrated teams & preview | 25:36 | 29:12 | | Small talk for dog owners | 32:31 | 33:22 | | Rep. Maxwell Frost segment begins | 33:33 | 49:02 | | Shutdown/ACA details | 34:04 | 39:59 | | Epstein files and activism | 39:59 | 43:34 | | Government shutdown dangers | 43:34 | 45:19 | | ICE raids/private prisons | 45:19 | 47:26 | | Lightning round “Bet the House” | 47:26 | 49:02 |
This hour of the Dan Le Batard Show exemplifies the podcast’s unique blend of smart sports talk, irreverent humor, and unexpectedly sharp political discussion. Sports fans get unique insights into the weekend’s biggest college football matchups, while listeners invested in politics and current affairs are treated to an honest, impassioned look at government gridlock and its ramifications—all without missing a beat on jokes about dog park anxiety or White Sox-clad Popes.
For next week: The crew promises to revisit “fake bus thongs” (Skims ad campaign) and more college football reactions!