Hour 2: TAYLOR, DEFEND YOURSELF!!! (feat. Anthony Williams a.k.a. Jason 'The Jet' Mason)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Hour 2: "TAYLOR, DEFEND YOURSELF!!!" (April 2, 2025)

Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Dominique Foxworth, Amin Elhassan, Jess, Billy Gil, Chris Cody
Guest: Anthony Williams (Jason 'The Jet' Mason)

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Against the Spread: Sports Betting Insights

The episode begins with the "Against the Spread" segment, where Billy Gil introduces sports betting picks, emphasizing partnerships with platforms like DraftKings. Jess shares his prediction for the Final Four matchup:

"I'm taking the UConn Huskies in the final four against UCLA minus eight and a half. I think UConn's offense is too much, too multifaceted for UCLA to handle. I think they win that game easily." ([01:05])

Chris Cody adds his perspective on an NHL game between the Florida Panthers and the Toronto Maple Leafs, expressing skepticism about Toronto's current form despite their recent wins:

"I'm going to take the Panthers plus one and a half because one and a half goals is a lot in hockey." ([01:29])

Analyzing Taylor Jenkins' Firing: A Deeper Look

A substantial portion of the discussion revolves around the abrupt firing of NBA coach Taylor Jenkins. Dominique Foxworth offers a critical analysis, challenging the narrative that Jenkins was solely at fault:

"We really don't have a definitive answer... His entire staff had gotten fired prior to this season, which in the NBA is the ultimate." ([03:01])

Foxworth argues that the front office's decision to hire Thomas Isolo, a coach with limited NBA experience, played a significant role in Jenkins' dismissal:

"This guy isn't David Blatt... he's from coaching in Germany, in France, some okay clubs at okay levels, but not the highest levels of European basketball." ([04:14])

Stugotz contends that the front office's move was shortsighted and questions the rationale behind replacing a seasoned coach with someone inexperienced in the NBA environment:

"How could someone convince themselves that this is gonna be good?" ([06:17])

Systemic Challenges for Black Coaches in the NBA

The conversation shifts to broader issues facing black coaches in professional sports. Foxworth highlights the systemic biases that lead to the premature dismissal of black coaches, regardless of their performance:

"Don't be a black coach and get fired. Like, that might be it." ([11:33])

He cites examples like Stephen Silas and Sean McDermott to illustrate the inconsistent opportunities and harsh scrutiny black coaches endure compared to their peers.

Interview with Anthony Williams (Jason 'The Jet' Mason): The Race that Stirred Controversy

Anthony Williams joins the show to address the recent race against Taylor Jenkins. The segment is filled with playful banter and lighthearted mockery:

"Taylor was scooting like Punky Brewster... while my dog Anthony got a convertible 20 family car." ([16:47])

Williams defends himself by acknowledging the team’s victory and emphasizing his strengths as a hurdler rather than a 400-meter specialist:

"Our team actually won that race. Taylor ran a great leg. I'll give him his credit." ([13:57])

The hosts continue to tease Taylor Jenkins, highlighting his performance and demeanor during the race, while maintaining a respectful and humorous tone.

Personal Anecdotes and Comedic Banter

The episode is interspersed with personal stories and humorous exchanges among the hosts. They share experiences from recent outings, interactions at the barbershop, and April Fools' Day pranks, showcasing their camaraderie and ability to navigate unexpected moments with humor.

Stugotz recounts an embarrassing technical glitch during an interview:

"I saw Chris. You'll never believe this. Probably thought he didn't know what he's talking about." ([37:12])

This moment underscores the challenges of live broadcasting while highlighting the hosts' quick-wittedness.

Community Engagement and Final Thoughts

The hosts emphasize their commitment to community initiatives, mentioning Anthony Williams' scholarship foundation and an upcoming track meet in memory of his late friend, Devin Brewer. They encourage listeners to support these causes, reinforcing the show's dedication to giving back.

"We have a scholarship foundation. I'll drop you guys a link or something if you want to submit." ([19:26])

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Dominique Foxworth on Jenkins' Firing:

  "This is classic textbook. We're getting you up out of here." ([03:01])

• Stugotz Challenging Front Office Decisions:

  "How could someone convince themselves that this is gonna be good?" ([06:17])

• Anthony Williams on the Race:

  "Our team actually won that race. Taylor ran a great leg. I'll give him his credit." ([13:57])

• Dominique Foxworth on Systemic Bias:

  "Don't be a black coach and get fired. Like, that might be it." ([11:33])

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This summary encapsulates the key discussions and insights from the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for listeners who may not have tuned in. From critical analyses of coaching decisions to engaging interviews and personal stories, the episode offers a blend of thoughtful commentary and entertaining banter.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began. In 1795, Cuervo invented tequila.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you doing here?

[Stugotz]

Cuervo?

[Amin Elhassan]

Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cuervo, the tequila that invented tequila. Roximo. Cuevo.com Please drink responsibly.

[Stugotz]

Cuervo.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.

[Billy Gil]

It's time for against the Spread.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Duh.

[Stugotz]

Duh.

[Billy Gil]

And it's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. Jess, what do we got?

[Jess]

I'm taking the UConn Huskies in the final four against UCLA minus eight and a half. I think UConn's offense is too much, too multifaceted for UCLA to handle. I think they win that game easily.

[Stugotz]

Against the first.

[Chris Cody]

Hope gonna head to the ice where the Panthers are taking on the Toronto Maple Leafs in Toronto. Now, Toronto's coming in winning two straight. The Panthers are coming in losing. Two straight teams have played against each other twice this year. Panthers have beat the Maple Leafs both times that they faced each other. But again, one is coming in hot, one is coming in cold. Is this the game where the Maple Leafs take down the defending Stanley cup champion Florida Panthers? Maybe, I don't know. But I'm going to take the Panthers plus one and a half because one and a half goals is a lot in hockey. So not saying the Panthers are going to win or lose, but I think they're going to cover.

[Stugotz]

Thank you for doing that, guys. We also have, I believe that we're closing in on an interview with Jason Mason, the runner who was behind our beloved Taylor in that race. We also have my guy, Jason Goff, who's a podcast host at the Ringer. He joined me last night in going out with Charlie and Charlie's high school friends. So I'm gonna bring Jason in at some point to tell all the embarrassing stories from Charlie's high school experience. But I guess Jason could probably come in too for this topic. Jason's a big basketball guy, works for the Bulls pre and post game show, I believe.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, him and Kendall Gill.

[Stugotz]

Yep. But this topic Amin got beef with Our coverage or our opinions on John Morant from yesterday, right?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, man, you guys really dropped the ball. You're talking about why Taylor Jenkins was fired this late in the season, by the way. I don't think we have a definitive answer for that because it's kind of ridiculous. I don't know if you guys. I can't remember if you guys mentioned this. His entire staff had gotten fired prior to this season, which in the NBA is the ultimate. We said that. Get your black ass up out of here. Right. Even though his name is Jenkins, he's white. But number two, you guys talk about the offense. You can't piss off the best player. It wasn't his offense. It wasn't his offense. The offense was devised by, get this, the two new assistants, one of whom is now the head coach and the other one is fired. And I'm just like, wait a second, hold on. You're going to take my staff away from me? You're going to hire somebody else that I didn't have a say in? Then you're going to tell these somebody else's to devise the offense even though our offense was okay last year? Right. And then when the star player doesn't like it, you're going to use that as an excuse to get rid of me. This is, ladies and gentlemen, not like Taylor Jenkins misstepping or whatever. This is classic textbook. We're getting you up out of here.

[Stugotz]

So who wanted him up out of there? You're saying?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, the whiz kid Wall street front office that thinks that. Hey, man, let me give this head coaching job to this man from Finland who's never been in an NBA capacity in any form or fashion prior to this season when we brought him here from his illustrious record of winning the Euro cup and the Basketball Champions League and every other league over there that's not really one of the heralded ones that come. Let me put it this way. This guy isn't David Blatt. And I'm not trying to knock him. He might be the best coach of all time one day. I don't know. I don't know, because his resume is super thin. He's not David Black. David Black came here, this dude won Euroleagues. This dude coached like the biggest clubs in Europe, like national team coaching. He had a real resume. Unfortunately, he didn't have an NBA resume. And so the NBA guys didn't really respect him. And he didn't do himself any favors either, in this case. Thomas Isolo is his name. He comes from, as I Said from coaching in Germany, in France, some okay clubs at okay levels, but not the highest levels of European basketball. Not domestic and not the continental championship of the Euroleague. And this is the guy who's going to be the head coach of your NBA franchise. Now, that, to me, is the galaxy brain of, like, front offices were like, I know the best coach. He's not even here. Like, oh, oh, you guys are listening to that. Like, oh, I know this indie band that only plays for five people. That's what they're doing.

[Stugotz]

Can you make it make sense, though? I get. I think if you can't, that's fine. But the harder, the easier thing to do is like, this doesn't make any sense. This is crazy. They're just trying to be way ahead of anybody. If I was challenging you to make a positive argument for this decision, because I think we all were. Even if you say that we had it wrong. We all agreed that it was shocking and it didn't quite give them the best chance. How could someone convince themselves that this is gonna be good?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I would say the only reason I can think of, and it's a pretty dastardly one from a basketball standpoint, is, oh, shit. If we let him rock with this. What if he goes on a huge playoff run? Then we gotta keep him. I really want my indy pick from Finland. You get rid of him now. My argument was, you knew he wasn't your guy the moment you fired his entire staff and gave him his. His assistant coaches. Why didn't you just fire him then? Why. Why give him the. Oh, well, we owe it to him. Why you didn't owe him to him Nine more games in a playoff run then. So to me is. It's just. Again, this is just the ridiculousness of NBA front offices that far too often skate. We. We're really good at blaming coaches. We're really good as a culture. Like, it's all the coaches. I can't believe that we never bring up the front office's role in all this. And you, of all people, Dominique, Mr. Tanking is bad. Like, I would think that you would be Mr. Call Out all these front offices out here instead of picking on poor Taylor Jenkins.

[Stugotz]

Man, I didn't pick on poor Taylor Jenkins.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You called him a bum and you told him, get the hell up out of here.

[Stugotz]

I didn't call him a bum and tell him to get the hell up out of here.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I heard you.

[Stugotz]

I did. He's a bum.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You called him.

[Stugotz]

Oh, no, I think that I was embodying the voice of the team where it's like, you bum, get up out of here. I don't think Taylor Jenkins is a bum. I'm not qualified to evaluate Taylor Jenkins as an NBA, NBA coach. But I do think that understanding that the part of your responsibility is creating buy in. And I think that's become more of a job for coaches than it has been in the past where we've moved. And I think this speaks to some of the things that you were saying earlier about how you talk to players. Now is kind of different. Like, yeah, the way that you have to manage the team now is different than it was in the past. And just saying, like, John Moran is being petulant is not going to be a defense. And I don't know where you got that voice from. I know you like to do imitations, but you don't hear that bass. You don't hear that melanin.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think he was just throwing shade. Just trying to come at you.

[Stugotz]

He's trying. I'm secure. Look at me. Got a haircut yesterday.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, it's easy to be secure around me. It's easy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right, easy. Hold on.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's a sniper. He's a talented, talented sniper at that. You know, he's got the whole affect of basketball. Insider, genius, knowledgeable man. But he can also be cool in the streets. He's got that, you know, two prong attack.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Jason, how's the flock doing?

[Amin Elhassan]

You need to. So this is. This is why you don't make friends in this industry, because they let you down at some point by being themselves. Truly. And they do it upon meeting. Like, the first time I actually interacted with Amin, he really cut me deep, you know, fresh off a flight, I was wearing a suit. I was taught to dress up when you get on airplanes, you know, first generation born here. My foreigner parents instilled that in me, and I do that to this day. You get off a flight, should look good. Had to go to a meeting where Amin was there.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You could call it a meeting.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was a meetup.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We were at Tap 42 at Aventura Mall.

[Stugotz]

Hey, I don't know where I'm at.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know where I'm at. It's a city that I don't frequent.

[Stugotz]

You know, I gotta make sure it's.

[Dominique Foxworth]

One of those mixers they do. Like, oh, it's a mixer. And I'm like, all right, cool.

[Jess]

They have a great chopped salad there.

[Amin Elhassan]

I wish I'd have known Jess. You know, I'd have wore my chopped salad suit. But instead, I pull up and he called me a shady youth pastor because I look like a young man who was a role model, you know, instead of these dregs of society running around in T shirts and shorts and, you know, cutoffs, you know, like, like, I, I, I had to show up.

[Stugotz]

You look great today.

[Amin Elhassan]

Hey, first, thank you.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You look great. I appreciate it. I've never said he, he doesn't look great. He's always very well dressed. I'm just saying on that day, he.

[Stugotz]

Was overdressed a little bit.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He looked like he might have been better. That's why I'm like the, the title.

[Stugotz]

He looked like. He said, close the door.

[Dominique Foxworth]

She was a gemstone.

[Stugotz]

Close the door. We not leaving until the congregation raises 40,000.

[Amin Elhassan]

40 racks. 40 racks.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He said he found Jesus down in Miami on South Beach. And that's why I must go.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's where most people find Jesus is down on South Beach. Right.

[Stugotz]

The morning after you were looking for him. I don't know if you found him.

[Amin Elhassan]

But that's why these coaches don't get no respect now, because they're not dressing like the gentleman that they used to have to dress like.

[Stugotz]

Now they out here in basketball clothes and stuff.

[Amin Elhassan]

Exactly. The likes of Amin El Hassan, you know, shooting down their dreams. Now, that's the problem, too. When you draft, you draft a talent that you know is going to be wildly impactful in your city and change your basketball culture. You just have to hope that he's mature enough to get you through some of the bad coaches as well. Right. Or some of the bad front office management. Like, I'm glad you mentioned that thing about front offices, because there are too many NBA front offices running around that aren't up to par. And all we do is cycle through coaches that are good coaches. Like, how long do we know Kenny Atkinson was a decent coach before Brooklyn had to let him go? And he's doing what he's doing in Cleveland with talent and people who buy.

[Dominique Foxworth]

In like that, that he was a good coach in Brooklyn. And the knock on him was like, yeah, but those guys don't like you.

[Amin Elhassan]

And all right, so Caris Lavert is really not, you know, Spencer D. With you. He's on your side, so you're out.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And then it's like, all right, that was, that was it, buddy. Go ahead. Like. And that phenomenon is even bigger when it comes to black coaches. Don't be a black coach and get fired. Like, that might be it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Jb, head on back to JB is.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like the The, The. The. Into the rule.

[Amin Elhassan]

Because Wes Santel Jr. Where's Wes?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Wes is a good example, right? Wes is the rule. Steven Silas. So as long as I worked in the NBA, Steven Silas been in the NBA, everyone's always like, this guy. All these players that I know were played with, you know, where he was an assistant. That guy's great. He's going to be a great head coach.

[Amin Elhassan]

I was stumping for him when Billy got the Bulls job.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So Stephen Silas gets the job in Houston, finally. All right, got Harden, you got Westbrook. You're going to take us to this next era. Post Mike D'Antonio, he's like, cool. And then like, hard's like, I wanna get traded. And then Westbrook's like, I wanna get traded too. And so essentially, he's given a bunch of babies. Kids, yeah, kids, basically, who don't know anything. Not that they're not talented, but they're just not a team that's ready to win. And he gets fired. And I'm like, does Stephen Silas get a fair shake? And then once he's out, does he get a shake anywhere else? That's it.

[Amin Elhassan]

How does that translate to the NFL, though? Cause, like, guys like Sean McDermott don't.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Give him a chance over there. We give them a chance, and then if you mess up that one time, you out.

[Amin Elhassan]

Talk about coaches, period. That black coach, you know, you're not coaching an NFL team, but guys like Sean McDermott who pop up or remember, who was it back in the day like, the black coach was Sherm Lewis. I believe it was like, man, he's a great offensive coordinator, but, boy, he ain't never going to get a head coaching job. Like the guys who stick in the NFL every once in a while, like, where'd this guy come from? You give them a quarterback, next thing you know, they're there for half a decade.

[Stugotz]

We'll get back to that in a second, but we have a guest. No, we got him. We got him. We got Anthony Williams, AKA Jason the Jet Mason, in the building. The man who cooked that bum. Taylor. What's up, Jason Mason.

[Jason Mason]

How you guys doing, man?

[Stugotz]

I mean, his name's Anthony. I. I'm sorry, Anthony, I didn't mean no disrespect. I thought Jason Mason was a cool nickname.

[Amin Elhassan]

As dope.

[Stugotz]

He was flying around the track, Taylor, I will have you know Jason, So welcome to the show. Thank you so much. Taylor been popping trash, talking about how he cooked you. And he could cook me and cook everybody on the track. I was wondering sir, if you have any rebuttal to what Taylor was saying.

[Jason Mason]

So my buddy actually sent it to me, did some research. So for Taylor, we. Our team actually won that race. Taylor ran a great leg. I'll give him his credit. Okay, I'm not a 400 runner. I was a hurdler in college in high school, state champion, All American. I'm a hurdler. I'm not a. Not a 400 specialist. But we did win that race as a team, so we got that.

[Stugotz]

You let. Let young Calvin Sampson pull away from you. It sound like what you saying to me is that he. He increased the gap.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'll tell you what I heard.

[Jason Mason]

I give him his credit. I remember he has some wheels on him. I'll give him that.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right. We need more shade.

[Jess]

Taylor, get up here.

[Billy Gil]

We need.

[Amin Elhassan]

He had some wheels on him. It's shade.

[Stugotz]

A 10 champ. Salute to you, Anthony. Appreciate you.

[Jason Mason]

Appreciate you.

[Stugotz]

I believe we got the baton at the same time, and I handed it off before you, but that's neither here nor there.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's fair.

[Jason Mason]

That's fair.

[Billy Gil]

I looked you up.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You were.

[Jason Mason]

Hey, you were an athlete. I give you credit, man. I give credit where it's due, man.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yes, again, mutual respect, Taylor Anthony.

[Jason Mason]

Hey, but like I said, four by four is not my thing.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Taylor, Anthony's saying, like, this is a hobby for him. The thing that he was actually great at. State champ, he was doing, he putting up numbers and banners.

[Stugotz]

Conference champ.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All right, so what. What banners were you putting up?

[Stugotz]

I didn't. I quit after my first year.

[Chris Cody]

I will say this. Everyone's being very respectful to each other, but, Anthony, I will tell you that Taylor had his numbers out there on the computer, and he was circling his comparisons to yours, and he was saying that he was faster than you in high school.

[Jason Mason]

No, like I said, I'm a hurdler. Hurling is my specialty, man.

[Stugotz]

You know what I can tell, though.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Are we judging Nelly by his country album? No, we're not doing that.

[Stugotz]

I could.

[Amin Elhassan]

I am.

[Stugotz]

I could. I can tell a dog when I meet one. And, Taylor, you're not a dog.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm listening to my.

[Stugotz]

Anthony. No, no, no. Wait.

[Jess]

Taylor, start barking.

[Stugotz]

Hold on.

[Billy Gil]

What are we doing here?

[Stugotz]

Get that garbage off the screen. It is. I hear. I hear it in his voice. I see it in his posture. That is a calm, confident man. Taylor, you turning red back there. You got beads of sweat on your head. You stuttering and stammering. Well, I quit. I quit.

[Amin Elhassan]

And the panoramic roof is providing atmosphere as well.

[Stugotz]

I can See all that?

[Amin Elhassan]

That man, the roof won the race, by the way. I'm just being honest with you. You can put your hands up against the TV screen and feel the heat.

[Stugotz]

I saw Taylor pull up today on a scooter, and my dog got a roof that you can see. See, True.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It wasn't even electric either. It was manual. That was Taylor.

[Jess]

Defend yourself, God damn it.

[Stugotz]

Taylor was scooting like Punky Brewster in the Work, while my. My dog Anthony got a convertible 20 family car.

[Amin Elhassan]

By the way, that man is in a spaceship. Oh, yeah, that's a family.

[Stugotz]

Anthony showed up on my show in a spaceship. Banners with redwoods behind them. Where you at, Anthony? This is you in a national park. This is. This is classic. I'm at work, man.

[Jason Mason]

I'm on my lunch break.

[Stugotz]

Get.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, he handling light work on his.

[Stugotz]

On his lunch break. I'mma come out here and get a little snack, and my snack's going to be named Taylor Easy one.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, light.

[Stugotz]

Hey, I don't want to hear nothing from Scoot something. Tate, get out of here. Scoot. This is DB Talk, where I've been saying to Dominique, let's go. And all he keeps doing is talk, talk, talk. I got my running shoes on the reverse card. I'm ready.

[Amin Elhassan]

I like the reverse card.

[Stugotz]

I showed Chris Cody where we could do this race, and Dominique shows up today. He goes, I think I might be hurt.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think I might be hurt.

[Stugotz]

That is. Everything that I've said so far is true. I did not fake an injury. What I did was today I walked in and I looked at you, and I sized you up, and you ain't had no engine. And I got more confidence.

[Jess]

Wait, let me see your cakes.

[Amin Elhassan]

Tanner, take a.

[Stugotz]

See what I think it's fine. No engine, Daddy. You can't. There's no burst in there. There's no power in that.

[Billy Gil]

Can we see Anthony's?

[Stugotz]

Nope. Anthony don't need to show. He don't need to. He wants to. Yeah. Look at that, man. Where are Anthony, if you don't mind me asking? What part of the world?

[Jason Mason]

So I'm in South Carolina, so after Mason joined the military army, yo, he.

[Amin Elhassan]

Is winning on every level.

[Jason Mason]

Taylor, you appreciate him, man.

[Amin Elhassan]

Saved two babies last week.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Meanwhile, Taylor over here eating lunch before it gets laid out for everybody. Yo, what are you doing? That's what he does, man. They go feast.

[Stugotz]

Like, they bring out their lunch.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's.

[Stugotz]

That's the type of dude he is. Just so you know, Anthony is that tail is the type of dude that they set out to lunch. And we don't go on break to get lunch and tail out there just squirreling away little sandwiches so we can get some. And he's out here. Scoot, scoot. I appreciate it, man. So you said you joined the military. You're still in the military now?

[Jason Mason]

No. So I'm a veteran. Fresh veteran. Last day officially was March 7, so.

[Amin Elhassan]

Congratulations on a great podcast.

[Stugotz]

Thank you for your service.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, man, thank you.

[Jason Mason]

It's pleasure to serve.

[Amin Elhassan]

Thank you, thank you.

[Stugotz]

What branch?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Army.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yes. Listen, My dad did 20 in the army, man. My dad did 20.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's the greatest black role model that has ever been on this show, ever.

[Chris Cody]

It's him or a means ever.

[Amin Elhassan]

And like I said.

[Stugotz]

Oh, man. Well, thank you so much for joining us. Any parting words you want to have for Taylor or anyone?

[Jason Mason]

No, it's all love. If you guys shameless plug, there's a track meet for my best friend passed away. Devin Brewer in for invitational. So I'll drop you guys a link or something if you want to submit.

[Amin Elhassan]

For sure.

[Jason Mason]

We have a scholarship foundation. So, yeah, like I said, all love, Taylor. Hey, blessings to you, man.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He's gone already.

[Billy Gil]

Man, I love this guy.

[Jess]

We fired Taylor.

[Dominique Foxworth]

When they kill you with kindness, I.

[Amin Elhassan]

Was this whole time, this is the worst kind of enemy, you know? They're like, hey, man, I wish you and your family nothing but the best. And hopefully your children can look in your eyes and see a winner when they think about me, you know what I mean?

[Stugotz]

We'll put that in the show notes and we'll definitely make a contribution. We appreciate everything that you've done for us. Thank you so much for joining our show. The final question, though is what's your Uber rating?

[Amin Elhassan]

Ooh, this is it.

[Stugotz]

I mean, I.

[Amin Elhassan]

You a 49 guy?

[Stugotz]

Are you in? Are you a. Taylor's gonna get a win. Are you a dot nine boy? Are you a dot nine boy or.

[Jason Mason]

Nah, I prefer to drive myself places. So I'm not really.

[Amin Elhassan]

Usa.

[Stugotz]

Usa.

[Amin Elhassan]

Usa.

[Stugotz]

Gervonta.

[Billy Gil]

Thank you, man. Thank you for joining us.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Appreciate you.

[Jason Mason]

Thank you for having me.

[Stugotz]

I looked up your middle name. That's how I know you fast.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Any brother named Javante?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, man.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Folks, listen up.

[Billy Gil]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Today, weather is starting to warm up. Regular season starting to wind down. Games of consequence in sports starting to ramp up. I know what you're gonna need by your side. It's by my side already. Miller Lite. Yeah, that's right. I'm making my springtime a Miller Time. I'm making my sports time. Miller Time. Going to a car race. Miller Time. Gonna see some tennis. Miller Time. Gonna chill in the backyard with some friends and make some memories. Miller Time. I love Miller Lite because it's got taste that I know I can depend on. No games, no gimmicks. It's that simple, folks. It's just a great beer. For people who like beer, Miller Lite is brewed for taste. It hits different than the other light beers. It's got simple ingredients, and at just 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces, Miller Time is always a good time. The original light beer since 1975, and still the very best one. Miller Lite.

[Amin Elhassan]

Great taste.

[Dan Le Batard]

96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tastes like Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Billy Gil]

Hey, friends, it's Jerbear here, and I'm.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Here to tell you all about Boost Mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5G network. So I must take a break from.

[Billy Gil]

The jokes here for a second and.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Put on my serious voice. Because I would never, ever joke about a 5G network that has invested billions building 5G towers across the country. Not even once. Not even if Mr. Boost Mobile himself asked me to. There is nothing funny about it. Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network and also provides coverage across 99% of America. Seriously? Visit boostmobile.com or your nearest Boost mobile store location to learn more. The Boost mobile network, together with our roaming partners, covers 99% of the US population. 5G speeds not available in all areas. Don LeBatard.

[Stugotz]

I took my son to the barbershop, get a haircut. And my man gave out some limp dap.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, no. Damn, damn, damn stugats.

[Stugotz]

I disowned them. I threw him right under the bus. I was like, whose kid is that out here dishing out limp?

[Amin Elhassan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. I don't know how I feel about you volunteering my bread, though. That was crazy.

[Billy Gil]

Like, we're all gonna make donations.

[Stugotz]

Oh, no, no, no. I. I meant. I. I meant I. You said we. You said the royal we, brother.

[Jess]

On behalf of Dan lebatari Metal Arc Media will be donating three.

[Stugotz]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Chris Cody]

Careful.

[Stugotz]

My feeling is we're a team.

[Amin Elhassan]

Costco Master.

[Stugotz]

I. I was planning to make the contribution, but I said it's we. Like we. I didn't.

[Amin Elhassan]

I have gotten by many a GoFundMe.

[Stugotz]

I would have thought. I would have thought the wrong way to do that was say, I will make a donation. Like I intentionally say football guy. If I say. If I say, what is the team? If I say I'm going to make a donation, then it puts everyone in awkward situations to also have to say I. So I meant I. I should have said I on behalf of Amin and Jason and everyone else am going to make a donation. Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

To do that. Yeah. Make it big too. I mean.

[Stugotz]

Whoa, whoa.

[Amin Elhassan]

Slid.

[Stugotz]

Chill, chill, chill. I said I'm gonna put something on it. I said I'm. Put some. Put something on it.

[Amin Elhassan]

$5.

[Stugotz]

I'm not trying to send.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How much?

[Stugotz]

I'm not trying to send all the kids to school.

[Dominique Foxworth]

When you said it, me and golfing.

[Stugotz]

I got immediately like, hey, bro, you.

[Amin Elhassan]

Got a 22 month old and an 8 year old. Charities I gotta take care of.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Travel, basketball. Man, that costs a lot of money, huh?

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, my God.

[Billy Gil]

You can still hear all this?

[Dominique Foxworth]

He was on the zoom the whole time.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah, I saw, I saw. I could see him.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's fine. I mean, you're just laughing.

[Stugotz]

We ain't say nothing.

[Billy Gil]

Taylor. Should we check on Taylor? That was rough.

[Stugotz]

That was rough for him.

[Amin Elhassan]

Give him a snack.

[Stugotz]

Taylor did his best. He tried to redirect it to me. That was a smart move. That was a good move. But what he don't know is he's.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Actually walking to get food right now. I knew it. I told y'all.

[Stugotz]

Got him in the kitchen. Got him in the kitchen.

[Amin Elhassan]

This setup, though. Let me. This is a majestic setup, by the way. I gotta be honest. I've been around a lot of things and a lot of entities. You guys got the food. You got the machine that was making April Fool's Day.

[Billy Gil]

That was nonsense. Our water machine yesterday, I tried to get. It's just like, hey, here's, you know, pineapple, butter, water. I'm like, what? April Fool's Day.

[Jess]

Wait, our Bevy is making April Fool's Day?

[Stugotz]

It pissed me off because it's water. Like, I needed to live. Don't you joke around. Like, it's like if the trees was like, hey, no oxygen today. April Fools.

[Jess]

Oops, there's lead in here.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Hold on.

[Amin Elhassan]

How many of us think too soon, Jess?

[Dominique Foxworth]

How many of us truly believe. If the machine told Chris, we have.

[Billy Gil]

Butter, water, pineapple, butter. I don't know where I. How I got.

[Jess]

He came up with that so quick.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I got caught up in the air.

[Billy Gil]

I said, pineapple, and then I realized that's a normal water flavor, so I gotta go somewhere. So I went to pineapple butter.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's not that the flavor is unimaginable, is that you would over say, no. You'd be like, butter, water.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'll try.

[Billy Gil]

I'll take it for a walk.

[Amin Elhassan]

But also, like, you. You don't know what kind of day I'm having, machine.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

You know what I mean? Like, I don't even have time for your quirkiness.

[Stugotz]

You know what I mean?

[Billy Gil]

I just got off a bad meeting.

[Jess]

No one's ever, like, I wish that my water machine told me jokes.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Hold on. Y'all want to hear the worst April Fools I've ever fallen for in my life? And it happened yesterday. And this is the scariest part. I think I got the oldest kid among anyone in here. Yeah.

[Billy Gil]

Was it Tiger woods saying he's playing the masters?

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, this is way worse, bro. This is way worse. My kid hands me this sheet, and it's a jumble. It's like, dad, can you help me with this? I can't. I can't get any of the words. And so I look at it, and I'm usually good at the. The jumble, whatever. And I'll look. Oh, there you go. Just like, one of them is, like, multiplying or whatever. Just look for an ing. And you got it. Like, yeah, I can't seem to find it. Then I'm like, yeah, just look for the ing. It's right there. Can you show me where it is? I said, well, it's somewhere in there. And I'm looking, and I'm like, I'm trying, like, trying to buy myself time that I pretended I knew where it was. And then my kid was like, it's not on the sheet because this is an April Fool's day. And I was just like, oh, no, I've been had. And I was crushed. And I went downstairs, like, I can't believe it. I can't believe it. But guess what? And my kid messed up and said, what? And I said, chicken butt. Got him back.

[Amin Elhassan]

Got him back. See, I would have.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Now I have the upper hand again.

[Amin Elhassan]

A little harder than that. I'm not your dad. Like, immediately, you know, raise the stakes. You know, look him right in the eye.

[Stugotz]

April fools. Now you got hit with a slow one. Hit him with a slow one. Gotcha.

[Amin Elhassan]

Go ask mommy about the secret we've been keeping from you.

[Billy Gil]

I'm just, like, picturing the meeting at the Bevy, like, headquarters, and they're like, hey, guys, I got an idea. On April Fool's Day, we hit him with a joke, and they're like, that's good.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's good.

[Billy Gil]

Meeting everyone.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What if. What if the Bevy went sentient on us? I have feelings, too. I also can tell jokes. Hey, what is a butter pecan?

[Billy Gil]

Pineapple butter pop water.

[Amin Elhassan]

Actually, I'm thinking we should start a market now for pineapple butter water.

[Billy Gil]

I'd try it.

[Stugotz]

No, take it for a while.

[Amin Elhassan]

Take it outside.

[Jess]

What if it played an April Fool's joke on Dan and was like, here's your orange water? And Dan was like, no, that's right, Dan.

[Stugotz]

He's allergic to everything.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Orange steak, garlic.

[Jess]

Pecan water pecan.

[Stugotz]

I mean, he believes he is. He gets blood in an alley. Dan's an unusual character, but we love Dan.

[Dominique Foxworth]

She would have loved the Gerd interview. We've asked so many questions about gastrointestinal distress. Hey, Mike. Ryan tried to ask Kenan Thompson about Gerda. Ken?

[Amin Elhassan]

Why?

[Stugotz]

No, in Mike's defense, it was my fault. Why are you standing? Why are you hand up? I created the circumstances that put Mike in a bad situation.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm not gonna lie in the shot clock.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I. I couldn't get it up to court, and so I passed it to Mike. To get it up to court?

[Jess]

No, but Mike was also looking for a pass, and if you didn't pass it, he Was just going to steal it.

[Stugotz]

That's fine. But I mean, I, I, I, I.

[Jess]

Know he was like, he's like, I'm getting in here with a question.

[Amin Elhassan]

So I landed, I landed during the Steve Williams interview.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Woof.

[Amin Elhassan]

And boy, that was, that was exceptional.

[Billy Gil]

How many golfers could you beat on that?

[Amin Elhassan]

That was the greatest question of the. That's the question of the year. What about with your fists on any platform? News, political, talk, weather channel? Like anybody that's been interviewed. My man just pulled a ripcord. Like, by the way, who asked, could you whip on the tour?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Golf. This is my favorite part. It is a tiger. This man.

[Amin Elhassan]

Please say tiger.

[Dominique Foxworth]

This man is a graduate of the University of Maryland, a fine institution, Harvard Business School. President of, like, the players association and all. Negotiating CBAs in two different sports, by the way, unheard of. Like, everything on paper. Dominique is like, wow, this is a renaissance, man. Put him behind a microphone, he turns into regular football.

[Billy Gil]

Hey, Chris.

[Stugotz]

Hey, man.

[Billy Gil]

Chris, this is your time. Chris, you have a question for the guest.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah, I did hear.

[Amin Elhassan]

I did.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Chris, what you got?

[Billy Gil]

Chris, it's your time to talk.

[Stugotz]

Right?

[Amin Elhassan]

So as a former producer, in that moment, I was like, oh, he don't know what a talkback button is. Like, your talk button is right here.

[Stugotz]

I had been using it all show. That's the worst part. I've been using it all show.

[Amin Elhassan]

Let me ask, what kind the setup here? Do they turn your mics on and off for you?

[Stugotz]

No, I can press this.

[Amin Elhassan]

Cause I have produced for talent who's like, who would look at the mic, come into the segment and just look at it and be like, the mike gonna have to turn itself on, huh? I'm like, come on, dawg, help me out here.

[Stugotz]

It's the worst part is that I knew all of these things. I have hosted this show many a times quite well. And we were. The show was going great up until then. I fell apart.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, no, that was great.

[Stugotz]

No excuses.

[Amin Elhassan]

That was great. That was fun. Bad.

[Chris Cody]

So, John Vantha, do you do brackets?

[Stugotz]

Hell, yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, yeah. Ask John Vanta, do you do brackets?

[Amin Elhassan]

What's the worst question that you've asked on this platform at this show or in general? Just let's keep it here at this show.

[Stugotz]

I know you must got one in your mind, Jason, if you asking the question.

[Amin Elhassan]

Listen, I have a ton of awful questions that I have asked guest guests. And you just sit there and you're like, oh, this is right.

[Stugotz]

No, I want to know what yours are. Why we buy. I'M buying time for a main or.

[Billy Gil]

Anything while we buy time. And here's one question that Dan asked the NASCAR driver.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What is the worst part of the life? That was the rest of it.

[Stugotz]

You wait for the rest of it. That's it.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, what is the worst part of the life?

[Jess]

Wait, now we have to play the whole entire thing with the reply from the person that Dan was interviewing.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Because if you're interviewing, what is the.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Worst part of the life?

[Billy Gil]

Four seconds of silence.

[Stugotz]

The worst part of the life of what? It was brutal.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's tough.

[Stugotz]

That's tough. I mean, what's yours?

[Amin Elhassan]

I asked Kenny Satterfield one time, what was he going to do after basketball while he was still in college. And it wasn't like, it's not that bad. No, but it is, though.

[Stugotz]

It is.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, it is. Because when you're talking to a college athlete and they're thinking, ill pros somewhere, I'm, you know, keep it shaking and moving. And I was like, yeah, Kenny, Barber College. Like, what are we thinking here? What are we doing here?

[Dominique Foxworth]

In your defense, you were right. Oh, no, no.

[Amin Elhassan]

We're usually right when we ask, you know, those kinds of awful questions. Like, he was right. He wanted to know who Stevie. Steven Williams wanted to say who he beat up before.

[Stugotz]

I need no defense. I accept that. I blew it. Like, I don't need no defense.

[Jess]

To be fair, it was the first interview on the first day with someone from a sport that is not in our wheelhouse.

[Amin Elhassan]

Shooting you bail.

[Jess]

That would have maybe also not gone well even if Dan was here. That maybe perhaps needed. I don't know. Stugats to be present for because he is the golf guy that has been absent for a month and a half.

[Stugotz]

No bail needed. I'm a Duke. Yes, I appreciate you, but as we know, accountability plays. I'mma do my bid. I deserve all the ridicule. What I'm not going to do is pretend like I cooked that interview. I smoked that interview. The interview was not cooked. It was smoked every other segment. However, I will not lie to you. Been cooking segment after segment. Bucket, bucket.

[Jess]

We're back up now.

[Stugotz]

Bucket, bucket. Just so you know. Distribute it. We get. Give me a new teammate.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I said, all right.

[Stugotz]

I get you to ball where you like it. Just like Magic Johnson. It don't matter. I've been balling ever since then. However, what I'm not gonna do is pretend like those interviews were good. Cause they were atrocious. Or pretend like it's okay that I point to some other Reason why I suck. It's a man on the scre. All I had to do was ask some questions. I blew it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I want to go back to the Chris, what you got right here? Which is. Which is a little improvement over my favorite interview thing in anywhere. Sports, media, entertainment, whatever, is whenever the TNT guys are interviewing the player of the game after the game where they all. This is Shaq here. I'm like, big fella, we know, like, you don't have to announce this. Where, like, I love the idea of like, like Shaq asking a question. Just going right to the question. The guy's like, oh, I'm sorry, who's talking to me? Is this Ernie?

[Jess]

If we're going to MMQB the caddy interview, I think we need to give Chris Cody a pat on the back for his question about if he caddies elsewhere other than on golf course. It was a great question.

[Stugotz]

Can I tell you one thing that just popped into my mind? There's so many terrible portions of that interview. We haven't even talked about the time when I mistakenly pressed the loser game show host button while my man is in the middle of talking.

[Amin Elhassan]

Are you hitting the price is on him?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Hit the prices wrong. And then like, everybody laughed and he explained, my bad. I made a mistake, whatever. And the guy goes back to the. Like you guys had moved on. And he goes back to that question.

[Billy Gil]

Hit multiple buttons after that too.

[Dominique Foxworth]

My favorite part of that interview, the worst part was Tiger. He said that Tiger had no distractions and that's why he was the greatest of all time. And none of us, none of us had the fortitude to push back on that. Not one distraction, Tiger. Not one Perkins. Shoney's. Wasn't it Shoney's?

[Stugotz]

Perkins.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was Perkins. It was Perkins.

[Stugotz]

I mean Shoney's Bennegans.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, shout out to the Bennegans. Get you a Monte Cristo. Get you right.

[Jess]

I heard Denny's is in trouble. It's like one of the next big chains that's gonna.

[Amin Elhassan]

I've never eaten at Denny's.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What I don't like.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's not that I don't like it.

[Jess]

Around Chicago, because I have never really.

[Amin Elhassan]

If they are, they're on the outskirts, like the Chicagoland area, but moon's over Miami.

[Billy Gil]

Miami. That's a sandwich.

[Amin Elhassan]

Okay. There you go. All right, cool.

[Jess]

Thanks, Chris.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm not. Not.

[Stugotz]

I'm not.

[Billy Gil]

A lot of people are nodding along.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Correspondent Chris Cody.

[Stugotz]

I like it. I like it. You know, I. I do a lot of jokes that are not for everybody.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'm a fan of Chris Cody and.

[Billy Gil]

Have been we all to be surprised about it.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, no, no. So no, I wasn't doing that. Chris. I wasn't doing that.

[Stugotz]

I saw Chris. Chris. You'll never believe this. Didn't think I was gonna like him. I was pretty sure that guy was incompetent. Probably. Probably thought he didn't know what he's talking about.

[Amin Elhassan]

I came to a revelation.

[Stugotz]

Well, you know what?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'm a big fan.

[Amin Elhassan]

Inviting, big gentle teddy bear. You know what I mean?

[Stugotz]

Look at him.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, it's a good man. He's got backward letters on the hat. So you know, he's down with the culture.

[Stugotz]

There it is.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Do you know what hat that is? You might take back your hockey culture. There you go. Panthers.

[Amin Elhassan]

Shout out to the hockey. You know, Blackhawks do that.

[Stugotz]

Shout out to the hockey.

[Amin Elhassan]

I think Chris Cody should be my Miami tour guide this season. Oh, Chris, you down? Cuz, Cuz. Cuz last night.

[Stugotz]

Oh, Jason Broward. These two dudes I gotta give. Oh, I will clear the floor for this because this is really why I wanted Jason to come on Amin.

[Amin Elhassan]

I would love for Amin, but Amin, you know, Amin's not a too cool for school kind of vibe for me. Like we used to be cool.

[Stugotz]

He used to come on my little.

[Amin Elhassan]

NBA radio show on SiriusX back in the day. You know, that's how we first linked up when I got to Atlanta. And ever since then, the. I wouldn't even say friendship. But the attachment has grown apart and he's throwing nothing but barbs in my mouth.

[Dominique Foxworth]

His career has blown up.

[Amin Elhassan]

But that doesn't mean I could take these barbs any better. You know what I mean? I'm still an insecure individual.

[Stugotz]

You guys can sort this out in the break. I need you to get to these stories from last night because them stories was cooking.

[Amin Elhassan]

I would like to Rick Ross's ex wife.

[Stugotz]

Oh, that's right. That's what started the night.

[Amin Elhassan]

Started the night.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You didn't even mention that immediately.

[Stugotz]

So she invited us out to karaoke. She sat next to us and as she was leaving, she invited us to do. To go do karaoke. Cuz apparently she was hosted a karaoke night. I forgot it was on her Instagram. She showed us the Instagram called Overtown.

[Amin Elhassan]

Shout out to Tia though. I don't want no smoke.

[Stugotz]

No, we want no smoke for anyone involved in any of this. But that's what kicked off the night.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Send Charlie to Liberty City.

[Chris Cody]

Did you go?

[Stugotz]

No. We didn't go there.

[Amin Elhassan]

No. But we had our teachers sit next to us. So, you know, when teachers get out of town, you know, you know how the vibes get. You know what I mean? The teacher's little convention next to us.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I got.

[Stugotz]

I got. I got accosted by my favorite people, the old black men. It was all old black men. Everywhere we go, they like, hey, hey, brother, thank you. Keep doing what you're doing. I like what you're doing, brother.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They hit you with. Keep representing us out there.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It's implied. It's implied.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, the unnatural pressure of being black in front of old black men. Like, you think white people put pressure on you? An old black man look at you like, hey, now, I know you're not slipping up the way you, you know, the mothers are slipping up. Like, I didn't even know what I was doing. Sir, I'm getting a soda right now.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Whenever they tell me that, the first thing my brain goes to is like, the dumbest things I've done for this show. Damn, I hope they didn't see that.

[Amin Elhassan]

You gonna get your sellout award at the black meetings.

[Jess]

You're just like, am. I've disappointed so many old black men.

[Amin Elhassan]

Today on a daily basis. My dad. You know what I mean?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Wow. I once lost the grit of death punishment where I had to do a whole show handcuffed. So I showed up. I showed up dressed like Martin Luther King with his. With the.

[Stugotz]

The, like numbers.

[Dominique Foxworth]

The numbers. And I did the whole show like that.

[Amin Elhassan]

And then we would put you on a flyer, see it all come.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, yeah. We were talking. We were talking. We introduced Charlie to Martin Luther King Day Club flyers. He was unaware of that. And I was like, yeah, you gotta know about this.

[Billy Gil]

Yeah, I do. But tell Billy.

[Amin Elhassan]

The cultural exchange is happening right now.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So, like, when there's like a. You know, Martin Luther King Day is a holiday. So on Sunday, there's a big party at a club or a day party at a brunch or whatever, they'll do the flyer. But on the flyer, it'll be a picture of Martin Luther King, typically in modern garb, with a durag on. A durag on. Have a change.

[Stugotz]

They'll give him a grill or something like that. And then they'll put like. Like shaking asses next to him. A car over there, like he's calling community performance. There we go. Shaking ass. I mean, that's what it is. That's what it is.

[Amin Elhassan]

Got emotion, like a reflection, like a hologram.

[Stugotz]

A hologram you just got to. You got to twist it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So this is the same Puritan who earlier in the show.

[Stugotz]

Pur. Yes. How about Puritan? When did I present myself as a Puritan?

[Dominique Foxworth]

When I said slump buster and you grabbed your pearls.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, my God.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's not the show we do here.

[Amin Elhassan]

Shaking Ass comes out the next hour, though. Shout out to the MLKs.

[Dominique Foxworth]

We needed one more black guy here. That's what I'm saying.

[Stugotz]

I'm forcing us to do this. So. Charlie, Charlie, please stop me if I ever say anything that would get you and your friends in trouble, but we met his friend last night who's a lawyer and his name is.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He's a great guy.

[Stugotz]

Oh, yeah, he's a great guy. What did he do?

[Amin Elhassan]

It's a great start.

[Stugotz]

It's not. He didn't do anything.

[Billy Gil]

That's set up.

[Amin Elhassan]

Right. That's a great start.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Right?

[Stugotz]

No. There was a lot of stories last night. Some of them can make it to the air, some of them can't. But his friend's name is Buddy Barnwarmer. Warper.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Buddy Bardwerper.

[Stugotz]

Barden. Warper.

[Amin Elhassan]

Bard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Warper.

[Amin Elhassan]

He's a created player on 2K.

[Stugotz]

I think the prom story. I think we can get clearance for the prom story. I think we can get clearance for the squatter story.

[Amin Elhassan]

Ooh, squatter.

[Stugotz]

There are two squatter stories. All right, if we leave names out, can we tell a squatter story? Sure. Okay. So Buddy was the. In the summer, Buddy. They all went to the same school together. Private school, all boys school in D.C. so Buddy was the janitor. During the summer he would make some money. He's a stand up guy. Stand up guy. Buddy also was a military man before he became a service, before he became a lawyer. But in the summer, he would make money by cleaning the school. And they had a teammate on their football team who got the nickname the mad squatter.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's right.

[Stugotz]

Because this young man would go into the section of the school that he knew Buddy was responsible for cleaning, and he would squat.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Come on now.

[Amin Elhassan]

Shit on the floor, do his business. Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

In the middle of the thing.

[Stugotz]

Yep.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Locker room floor.

[Stugotz]

Just shit on the floor.

[Amin Elhassan]

Just a nervous individual.

[Billy Gil]

Now I get why you were like, he's a good guy.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. And Buddy, he would do it routinely like it was a regular thing. Intentionally laughing at it. And then Buddy. Buddy, just clean it up. Just going about his business. Clean it up, Buddy.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's crazy. The soul of a good white man. Because I gotta tell you right now, Buddy's white. I Would have called the police.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And the squatter was not.

[Stugotz]

The squatter was not Buddy. Buddy played college football also. And we happen to have a similar or we have a connection to a strength coach. And Buddy told the story of his strength coach, whom I also know. He said the strength coach got really hype on test day. I don't know if you guys know test day. Everyone does.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's the day when you test, get your max.

[Stugotz]

You try to get your max number on the squad. On benchmark.

[Billy Gil]

That's what I thought it was too.

[Stugotz]

So on test day, the strength coach is trying to get everybody hyped. So he proceeds to rip his shirt open. Get under the squat rack, do four squats.

[Dominique Foxworth]

With the Texas belt buckle?

[Stugotz]

Yes, with the Texas belt buckle. Get under a 450 pound squat rack. Do four, rack it, scream at everyone, take it back off the rack immediately, do five more, then collapse to the ground convulsing. This is how we kick it off the test day. This is the energy that he wants.

[Amin Elhassan]

And Buddy seizures.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Harvard football.

[Stugotz]

Ivy League school, guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ivy League school.

[Dominique Foxworth]

This wasn't even like.

[Stugotz]

This is a strip coach. This is a strip coach at Ivy League school. He like, hey, I got.

[Amin Elhassan]

You're preparing accountants for. For life by dying in front of him on a squat rack. Yeah. Shout out to strength coaches out there.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Strength coaches are wild dudes. The last story that I. I've gotten approval to tell is the. The prom story.

[Amin Elhassan]

Oh, Lord.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I took his prom date. So he married mine.

[Amin Elhassan]

And not only married, but gave her a beautiful family.

[Stugotz]

The idea that I have in my mind is Buddy was mad that Charlie took his prom date.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I didn't even realize he was mad.

[Stugotz]

And then Buddy was like, you know what? You took my prom date. I'mma marry your prom date. And I'mma be a great husband and a great father to the children. I'm going to dedicate my life to avenging the prom date stealing bastard you are.

[Amin Elhassan]

And I think one of his kids name is Charlie, to be honest, what I say. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Stugotz]

I wish.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

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