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Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Mike Ryan
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Against the spread.
Dan LeBatard
Thank you, Roy.
Tony
We're starting off in Thursday night football. Got Seahawks traveling over to the Arizona Cardinals. And Cardinals are not that good. Seahawks surprisingly good, Dan. That's a team that when I was asking Diana, I thought she was going to mention the Seahawks yesterday saying that's a team that nobody's really talking about. The Seahawks are an interesting team. Sam. Donald playing well. Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Wide receiver one playing awesome.
Dan LeBatard
Okay.
Tony
Defense playing tough. I know they haven't really played anybody, but this is their first division game and the Cardinals we all know Sock sock so much. So Seahawks are a point and a half favorite against the Arizona Cardinals and the big toaster. Okay, we're gonna go Seahawks minus one and a half against the Cardinals. Sam Darnold over two touchdowns, by the way. Lock that in. That was against us, right?
Mike Ryan
I'm going. I'm going with Virginia.
Dan LeBatard
Good right there.
Roy
I'm surprised you weren't distracted there. Why don't you do it back to him?
Mike Ryan
I'm going with Virginia. I like the who's that? Offense can move the ball. They had one game where they had 700 yards of offense. I'm A big fan of Chandler Mor. From TCU to North Texas and now to Whoville. I think there's a scary night game for fsu. They may win, but it's gonna be one of those shootout type of games. Nothing is given in the acc. Everything is earned. I like the who's plus seven and a half against those bread.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, against those spread.
Roy
You are the biggest national proponent of Virginia football that I have heard this century.
Mike Ryan
Wow. You haven't heard that their offense can light it up.
Roy
You have been very big on Virginia football and I don't hear a lot of people saying what you're saying about Virginia football. Perhaps Jessica will say some of the same. Mike Gundy. I've been telling you that for the last two years, Mike Gundy has been in charge of what seems like the worst big football program in America. He has been fired. And while many of you cite his I'm a man, I'm 40 speech, I think he had one to rival it. So play. We're going to play both of them here. Let's play both sounds, but play whichever one you want first. Roy. Whether it's I'm a Man, I'm 40, or whether what I believe to be just as bad a press conference that Mike Cundy gave.
Dan LeBatard
So I looked it up on my phone. What would be the legal limit? Oklahoma is 0.08 and Ollie was point one. So I looked it up and it was based on body weight. Not to get into the legal side of it, but I thought, really, two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying what all he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well, I thought I'd probably done that a thousand times in my life.
Roy
That sounds like justifying it and getting into the legal part of it, like he wasn't going to do either.
Tony
He doesn't want to do the legal part.
Roy
He ended up doing both.
Mike Ryan
That's 4,000 beers.
Roy
And let's play his other more famous press conference, the one that will be his entire career's remembrance, even though he occasionally won 10 games, none of which you remember.
Dan LeBatard
If your child goes down the street and somebody makes fun of him because he dropped a pass in a pickup game or says he's fat and he comes home crying to his mom, you'd understand, but you haven't had that. But someday you will. And when your child comes home, you'll understand. If you want to go after an athlete, one of my athletes, you go after one that doesn't do the right things. You don't downgrade him because he does everything right and may not play as well on Saturday. And you let us make that decision. That's why I don't read the newspaper, because it's garbage and the editor that let it come out is garbage. Attacking an amateur athlete for doing everything right. And then you want to write articles about guys that don't do things right and downgrade them, the ones that do make plays? Are you kidding me? Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man. I'm 40.
Roy
Welcome. Jessica, what were your thoughts on Mike Gundy being fired? It was about. It was a couple of games late.
Jessica
He was a lot more entertaining when Oklahoma State was good than it's been the last couple years. But I wouldn't even even say it was a couple of games late, Dan. Well, I guess I would say that it was like four games late. I don't really understand why they did this now on a Tuesday during a game week and not last year when he agreed to restructure his deal and clean house of coaches. Like, it just seemed like the writing was on the wall. Last year they went winless in the Big 12, and I really don't understand the timing of all of this. It kind of reeks of dysfunction.
Roy
Well, they lost. They just lost to Tulsa and then before that the week. But they lost to Tulsa at home. They got blown out by Tulsa at home and they lost the week before. Who they lose to the week before because they lost another game where they weren't.
Mike Ryan
They're not. They got destroyed by Oregon and embarrassing fast.
Jessica
And it was 50 after Mike Gundy made comments about nil, which has been sort of the issue the last few seasons that Oklahoma State has not been competitive in nil. But yes, Dan, like the Tulsa game was actually a close game, which is almost worse that like you almost could have beaten Tulsa. Those schools are very close to one another. But yeah, it just, I just don't really. They got blown out so many times last year. Like, I really just don't understand why do it on a Tuesday when you played on Friday. Now you have a game on Saturday. Your offensive coordinator is taking over as the interim head coach. It's very strange.
Roy
Zaslo, are you going to be at Georgia, Alabama this weekend?
Zaz
Yeah, I'm in Athens this week and I'm very excited, actually. That's going to be awesome.
Roy
Jessica, do you know what do you feel like you know what Alabama is?
Jessica
I don't feel like I know what any team is yet. I do know that I'm more skeptical on Virginia's offense than Mike is. I will say the caliber of defense Virginia has played so far this season. And yes, Mike, they have put up a lot of points against William and Mary in Coastal Carolina. But Florida State's defense right now in DFE is top 40 versus NC State, which is the next best defense that Virginia's played this season, ranking somewhere around 77 at the moment. And Virginia was able to score 31 points on them. But I'm a little bit more skeptical they're able to do quite as much damage against Florida State, but remains to be seen. So be right.
Zaz
So Alabama last year beat Georgia was an awesome game in Tuscaloosa. That was like the last time we felt good or Alabama fans felt good about Kalen DeBoer because the very next week they lost to Vanderbilt. If they win in Athens this weekend, Jess, like what do you think the conversation starts to sound like around the Alabama head coach?
Jessica
Honestly, I think that it will be a lot of Georgia's not that good. I mean, like we already saw Georgia down to the wire with Tennessee last weekend. I also think that if you go back to last year, I look, Jalen Milro won my September Heisman last year. He is an electric college football player. But even the second half against Georgia last year, Alabama let them all the way back into the game and it took heroics from Ryan Williams and Milroe to ultimately win that game. So there was a lot of skepticism. I think that Alabama was ready to in the first half they did a lot of like scripted stuff. Well, they had a really good game plan. But then when Georgia was able to overcome some of their issues offensively, Alabama didn't have a great response to that. So I do think Alabama has a long way to go before the Kaylen DeBoer doubters are proven wrong.
Roy
Georgia's a small favorite at home. Kirby Smart has beaten Alabama. How many one time, not a lot has he beaten. What is he against Alabama?
Jessica
Is he one in four maybe.
Roy
I think it might be. I think it might be like in the regular season. Like, I think he's been pretty bad against Alabama and I'm not remembering the victory off the top of my head.
Jessica
But there was also Saban. Saban's gone like the windows open now. Dan Saban was Kirby's foil to to a lot of people's minds. So, like, there is really no excuse now.
Mike Ryan
So Milroe won your September Heisman last year. Who's winning your September Heisman this year. And it could. Could it be John Mateer who just broke his hand and left? Oh, you in a pretty tough situation.
Jessica
It's actually Diego Pavia. He's still the front runner for the September Heisman. But yeah, John Matier's injury is not. Not a good one, obviously. Like, it seems like he could be back by the start of November. It really is a bummer for the Red River Showdown Shootout, whatever we call it now, because those are two teams that I would have loved to see play each other at full strength. That's Texas and Oklahoma.
Dan LeBatard
So.
Jessica
So if he does come back and Oklahoma can sort of keep it together over the next few games, I think, you know, their defense is really going to have to step up and make things miserable for South Carolina's offense. South Carolina's offensive line has already struggled this season and we saw Oklahoma's defense, like, really attack Auburn's quarterback last weekend. So they're going to have to really have some standout defensive performances, which of course is like, that's Brent Venable's baby. I think that they're up to the task. But the other issue for Oklahoma's offense so far this season has been, like, inconsistency in the run game. And it's difficult when your backup quarterbacks coming in. Now, he does. He did play a few games last year, Michael Hawkins Jr. But if you don't have a run game to really lean on and rely on, that makes his job a lot more difficult. So I think Oklahoma is going to have to figure out some answers there and just play really, really great defense.
Zaz
They're both going on at the same time this weekend. Jess, It's Saturday evening. If you could only watch one. Georgia, Alabama or Penn State. Oregon.
Jessica
This is what the quad box is all about. Zaz. I don't have to ever make that decision ever again.
Chris
What year is that question from?
Jessica
Yeah, like they're.
Zaz
Well, don't you like watching the game with sound?
Mike Ryan
Let me rephrase. Pretend this is a question from 2016.
Zaz
I don't know who you impersonate there. Not me.
Dan LeBatard
I don't know.
Jessica
I think I would probably choose Penn State. Oregon, to be honest with you. It's a whiteout game. Penn State really hasn't been tested at all this year. Oregon also hasn't played like a top 25 team yet. I want to see their quarterback against a good defense, Dante Moore. It's a tough road game for Oregon, who I think, I don't know what the spread is on that game. There's a Lot of games this weekend as where the road team is favored by enough points that I'm like, I'm curious about that. Like USC and Illinois. So Illinois just got blown out by 50 points, 60 points to Indiana last weekend, but USC is only a six and a half point favorite going to Urbana Champagne this weekend. So like there's a few games like that. Notre Dame at Arkansas. The line in some places down to three and a half, which to me indicates Notre Dame's best defensive player, Leonard Moore. Maybe he's not going to play this weekend. He's had a little bit of an ankle that's really bad for Notre Dame's defense who really needs him to be able to play. So I'm kind of, that's what I'm going to be watching this weekend is some of the road favorites going in across cross country trips, seeing how they fare, places like Oregon and Penn State.
Mike Ryan
USC had a late night game last week and now they're, they're kicking things off with a noon start in champagne. That's pro. What the line is taking into account. I was really into this Notre Dame Arkansas game before the season because I thought that could be a tricky spot for Notre Dame. And now I'm even more interested because Arkansas got caught looking ahead. I know Memphis is a good football team, but the way that game landed in their schedule was awfully nice.
Roy
Arkansas shouldn't have lost that game.
Mike Ryan
They shouldn't have. But Memphis is a solid team. But a lot of people are citing look ahead factor. It was sandwiched in between two big games. What do you think?
Roy
You think Arkansas's running back was looking ahead in the last three minutes when he fumbled inside the five yard line.
Mike Ryan
I'm saying the reason why the game was close was because, you know, Arkansas was potentially, I mean, these are all cliches. I don't actually know. I doubt they were all like, hey, we can't work.
Roy
You told me at the beginning of the show today that you know ball and I don't know ball.
Mike Ryan
No, I didn't say I know ball, I just said you don't.
Roy
You said you know ball.
Mike Ryan
I mean, I know more ball than you. I don't know what you're doing right now.
Roy
You don't know more ball than me.
Chris
No, it wasn't just he doesn't go to you for ball.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, it was Jeremy too. I don't go to either of you for ball. But what do you make of this game, Jess? Because Notre Dame's defense, I know their offense is scoring crazy cj Carr seems like the truth, but that defense only gets more scary when they give up 30 points of Purdue.
Jessica
Yeah, well, one of those touchdowns was in garbage time. Like we talked about this extensively in my podcast the echoes with Michael Jr. Notre Dame Overall, their coverage hasn't been what was expected coming into the season. They had to start two true freshmen last year or last weekend, I'm sorry, because of injury and a red shirt freshman at safety because of a targeting penalty from the game before. So they were playing a little bit inexperienced in the secondary, which is a position group that was excellent for them last year. And again, like I said, Leonard Moore being out and he's one of probably the best corner in college football, that's a really tough loss to overcome for Notre Dame. So they really have to figure out what they're doing in the secondary and I think that starts up front with the pass rush. They've got to be able to figure out how to get some pressure on the quarterback. Taylor Green for Arkansas is a really exciting player to watch. He does make mistakes, but he can move and he can, he can exploit you if you're not disciplined. So I think it's a tough task for Notre Dame defensively. But you're right, Mike, Arkansas defense has also let teams run the ball well. Notre Dame has two awesome running backs, Jadarian Price and Jeremiah Love. CJ Carr has been great. The wide receivers have been really solid. The offensive line's gotten better every week. So I'm taking the overs in every Notre Dame game until proven otherwise. I mean, this was a team last year that shut teams down defensively. That has not been the case so far this year. And granted, they have played two top 25 teams to start the year and did well enough against Purdue to blow them out. So, you know, take it with a grain of salt.
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Mike Ryan
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
Don LeBatard I don't like Smutty either. Stugats Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Zaz
You got beef with any top 25 teams right now?
Jessica
I don't have beef with anyone ever. Zaz, what are you talking about?
Zaz
I mean, like the rankings. You got beef with any of the rankings?
Jessica
That's week four. I don't have beef. Well, I save my beef till like week 10, and then I get really beefy.
Roy
Do you have a way to get intrigued about Clemson unc?
Zaz
I'm scheduled for that.
Jessica
The most exciting thing about Clemson UNC is that they're doing something before the game that everyone should do all the time. They announced there's like this concert series going on at North Carolina this year, and Ludo Ludacris would be performing before the game. The kickoff time was tbd. Everyone thought maybe it'll be, you know, primetime kickoff because it's Clemson and unc. No, they got a noon slot. So Ludacris will supposedly be performing at 10:00am this is what time all concerts should start, Dan. 10:00am you're in there, you're drinking your coffee. Maybe you're still in your jammies. The concert ends, you go to the game, and then you go home and you go to bed. Why are we doing this more often?
Zaz
Should I go to the Ludacris concert? Yes, I think I'm going to be there.
Roy
But 10am 10am is too early for a ludicrous concert.
Mike Ryan
I don't know.
Roy
Put it on the poll, please. Juju at lebatard show. Is 10am Too early for a ludicrous concert?
Chris
Ludicrous.
Mike Ryan
Luda. Giving that energy.
Jessica
We need to do more 10:00am concerts. Like, there. I've. I saw that there's like some bar that opened in New York where it opens at like 8 o' clock and then people come and dance and then they leave at, like, 10 o'. Clock. I need to figure out where this thing is, because that is my timeline. You eat an early dinner. Early bird special. Dan. 6:30. You go out, you dance, you have a couple drinks. You're in bed by 11 o'. Clock. I can't think of a single thing that sounds better than that.
Roy
You are a young person. How is it that you are a fossilized mummy inside?
Jessica
I love sleeping. I love my bed. I have the most comfortable bed in the entire world. I have the. I have just, like, an amazing setup. I have wonderful sheets. I have a wonderful duvet. Dan. It just feels so good when I get into bed at night and I think about it from the minute I wake up. I think about how cozy I'm going to be come 10, 10:30. And these stupid 11:00pm eastern big 10 conference games are cramping my style. I hate it. I hate staying up to watch WNBA playoff games. I hate all of it. I want to be in bed, falling asleep to the Hawaii game. And I wake up maybe in like, the second quarter. It's like, you know, 12:45 or something. And then I fell back asleep, and then I wake up again, and then I fall back.
Roy
You're thinking about your bed while you're in your bed in the morning. You're thinking about getting back into your bed at night.
Jessica
Literally. Like, I wake up and I'm like, this feels so good. I can't wait to be back here in 12 hours.
Mike Ryan
Jess, what did you make of Wit weeks and Lane Kiffin's daughter? Hard launching.
Jessica
Wait. Okay, I have a prop. Hold on, hold on. Stay there.
Roy
Okay.
Jessica
Vamp.
Roy
All right, we're gonna be right here.
Mike Ryan
For those that don't know where could we go for those that don't know Whit Weeks, who's a tremendous player for lsu, their team captain. He decided to announce to the world that he is dating Lane Kiff daughter. And it just so happens to be game week between LSU and Ole Miss. So the head games have started early. I think that Lane Kiffin has already said take the over on social media, saying that he's gonna run it up on that defense. So the banter has already begun. And today there is a special on espn, the many lives of Lane Kiffin. I might actually be in on that because it looks good.
Zaz
I saw some clips.
Mike Ryan
I mean, he's had a remarkably interesting career and life. So I'm dialed.
Chris
Is a coach allowed to tweet out take the over?
Jessica
Chris, I had the same question. Like that can't be that just certainly there must be some sort of rules about that. Mike, I don't know if you said this while I was getting my prop. Do you know what. What Weeks, his nickname is?
Mike Ryan
I do not know his nickname.
Jessica
Well, let me show you. He's the Honky Badger.
Mike Ryan
That is so.
Dan LeBatard
Wow.
Jessica
If you guys remember, I said last year Lehman was producing that scene sec any given Saturday show that was on Netflix that came out a couple months.
Mike Ryan
Ago, which in no way has influenced your Diego Pavia takes.
Jessica
No, not at all. I mean, Lee barely talked to Diego Pavia. That's not true. Total full disclosure, he shot a lot with Vanderbilt. The Honky Badger is that is the nickname of Wit Weeks. The. He wears like a very slutty crop top. He's like a white middle linebacker. So we have this koozie now, courtesy of. Of the Weeks brothers. I'm not sure which one. There's three of them on lsu. Dan. I'm not sure which one gave this to Lehman, but he shot some stuff with them at their.
Roy
The Honey Badgers retired. Right. He's not in the league anymore. The Honey Badger.
Mike Ryan
He was on Amazon pregame coverage. I was impressed with him. And Derek Carr got high mark high marks there, too.
Roy
Last question before we let you go here. And again, the Echoes is the name of her podcast. For all your Notre Dame information, Sister Jean retired.
Zaz
Retired from what?
Jessica
From her job being the basketball lady. Here's the thing, Dan. So yesterday, have you guys talked about the rapture yet?
Roy
A little bit yesterday. How old is sister Jean?
Jessica
Is she 100, 106, I believe.
Mike Ryan
That's too old.
Jessica
Yesterday I saw a quote graphic come up that she was retiring, and I thought that she had passed away. And I am A jackass. So I wanted to be the first person to the group chat with the rapture joke. And then I realized after the fact, she. It just said retired. So I felt. It felt really terrible about that. I guess I would feel worse if she did actually pass away. But, I mean, she's 106. Like, she's obviously had an incredible life. So anyways, shout out to Sister Jean. Not raptured. Yeah, I guess my. My beef with the top 25 says, let's bring it full circle. Illinois. Still being ranked after losing by 50 points is kind of silly, but I'm with you.
Zaz
I don't think you could be ranked if you lose to anyone by 50.
Jessica
Yeah, that's a lot of points.
Roy
I thought you didn't do beef until week 10. What happened? You changed your opinion.
Jessica
This is like, what's it called? Like, Impossible Chicken or whatever. This is like fake beef. Like, it's. It's vegan beef. It's made out of, like, I don't know, seitan, Whatever that's called.
Zaz
That's my.
Roy
I don't think it's called seitan.
Jessica
Is S E I, T, A. I don't know how to pronounce that word. You guys don't know anything about vegan food.
Mike Ryan
Don't. But I would say seitan would probably be bad for branding. I would say maybe Satan.
Jessica
Mike Ryan, it's a wheat derivative.
Roy
What is your take on being 106 years old?
Mike Ryan
That's too old for somebody. People shouldn't be that old.
Zaz
Time to die.
Jessica
My grandma always says, put a bullet in my head if I live that long. Which is, whoa, very inappropriate.
Mike Ryan
Especially like these last few years, like, Sister Jean, like, she lived through Covid. And you just gotta be like, ah, she's lived through a lot more than Covid. We're not exactly like any of us on original Covid.
Zaz
Well, she's just retired. She's on the back nine now.
Jessica
She flu.
Roy
She lived through a bubonic plague. Is a disease come lately.
Jessica
It's crazy that she's lived long enough for them to invent germ theory and then also rebuke germ theory again.
Roy
I mean, holy crap, that is Jessica's grandmother, Sister Jean. That is not Sister Jean. Good seeing you, Jessica. Thank you for being on with us.
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I ever got that many roses in my whole life.
Mike Ryan
Stugats.
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Certainly not from your lovely grandfather, God, may his soul rest in peace. This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.
Roy
I want to get to a handful of things here, including something that the Onion is reporting, but we've got to get to I love them. Yeah, it's a pretty good report. I'm going to get it from my phone now, but first I need the Ray Hudson Call of the day because you guys think I'm going to forget about this and we're going to do it every day until we don't need.
Mike Ryan
The full open, though we're hoping you.
Roy
Forget about it every day until the World Cup.
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Roy
This is what Dan wanted. This is what Dan wanted. I'd like the call now as well, though.
Mike Ryan
Oh, okay.
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Roy
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Chris
Quote I saw that he's got like.
Tony
Blood coming out of his nose and he's like gaunt.
Roy
Hold on a minute, I got to read more from the Quote what's his face has been dead since last week. But look, none of the other guys are even aware of it. Pat's just going on about the Ravens run defense while the poor guy slumped over and decomposing in his chair, longtime viewer Russell Barker said of Hawk's bloated, putrefying corpse, acknowledging that the deceased talk show personality's glassy, empty stare has grown even glassier and emptier since his passing. Quote you think someone would have picked up on the fact that he's not blinking or moving, But Pat and the toxic table boys are cutting it up with Kirk Herb Streak like it's a regular show. Or maybe they're just tuning him out like they always do. End quote. At press time, sources reported that a rat had begun gnawing on Hawk's face as math as. As McAfee question whether Vikings quarterback J.J. mcCarthy would be able to adjust to pro level pass rush.
Tony
That's a good question, though I'm surprised.
Roy
More people haven't picked up on this story.
Mike Ryan
Dan, I hate to break this to you because we're having so much fun, but the Onion is satirical.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, come on, man.
Roy
Oh, is it?
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Roy
Oh, my God.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he's alive.
Roy
Oh, that's. Well, I'm not going to say that's too bad.
Dan LeBatard
I almost trapped you.
Roy
Tony, I've got some problem. Problems here with your guys's adult friends. Your guys's adult friends seem to have some judgment issues. I'm worried about Chris Cody, who's going away for the weekend on a buddy trip. I think he's a little old for that, and I think his friends are too immature for that. And I'm worried about the judgment of Tony's friends as well, because one of your friends has done something bad this week.
Tony
One of my friends, Dan, has done something unspeakable. Not even. Not even bad. Unspeakable.
Jessica
Okay.
Tony
Okay. And he's a great kid. I love this kid. Okay, Shout out to Steven. Big fan of his, right? I like him. And his wife had a daughter. Her daughter's birthday, September 28, which is also happened to be Sunday. So instead of like any rational person would do as the head of your household and being like, hey, we're setting the date on a Saturday. They're having the party on a Sunday. On a Sunday. Okay. Maybe a ten o' clock birthday. She's a year old. You got a 10 o' clock birthday, 11 o' clock birthday. You're there for a couple hours.
Chris
Love that. When you're done by noon.
Tony
Exactly.
Mike Ryan
Bing, bang.
Tony
All right, we're done. We're going to go to the Carolina Ale House, watch the game. Names like, no, no, what we're gonna do is Sunday, 3 o'.
Jessica
Clock.
Mike Ryan
Now that's a problem.
Dan LeBatard
And I'm like, 3 o'?
Jessica
Clock.
Tony
My wife put it in the calendar.
Mike Ryan
And I was witching hour.
Chris
Are they calling it the witching hour party?
Tony
I was like, wait a second, babe, hold on.
Zaz
Should be called it.
Roy
Well, My God, I'm looking at the.
Tony
Thing and I'm like, well wait, Sundays, her first birthday party at 3:33. Why is that in my calendar? She's like, yeah, that's when they're having the party. It's at a park. And I'm like, at a park?
Mike Ryan
At a park. There's no TV. It's at a park.
Tony
TV's at a park. And I'm like, so It's Sunday, it's 3 o' clock in the middle of all the great games that are happening. And then on top of that, we got Ravens, Chief, starting at 4:25. And I'm gonna be where? You can't go at a park in Westchester.
Mike Ryan
Don't go.
Chris
Hot as balls.
Zaz
Why you gotta go?
Tony
Because they're, they're part of our friend ball and chain.
Mike Ryan
Well, you said part of your friend group. Part of our friend group, not part of your friends.
Tony
No, Jenny's friends with his. With his wife.
Mike Ryan
That sounds like a Jenny friend show up thing. Yeah. Jenny's attendance more required than Tony's attendance. Tony's got a job, honey. I got a job.
Dan LeBatard
Agree.
Mike Ryan
I mean, it's Ravens, Chiefs, it's a Waterloo game.
Tony
And on top of that, in the 1pm slot. Eagles, Bucks.
Roy
Waterloo game. You've got, you've got it as a Waterloo game.
Mike Ryan
That's right. Dan. Three consecutive weeks of saying Waterloo game.
Roy
What are you expecting from the Chiefs? Because you've been yelling at me for three weeks about the Chiefs.
Mike Ryan
I'm expecting the Chiefs to do what they usually do against Lamar Jackson and that's win Lamar Jackson, one in five in his career against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Zaz
One in three Ravens.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, well, you want, you want to take that same tone and say one in three Chiefs. There's one team of our generation and it would be far more shocking for that team to be the one in three team. The one in three team Chiefs. That'd be absurd to me. That'd be crazy.
Tony
You know, it's crazy having a birthday party at 3 o' clock on a Sunday when we have that massive game. On top of that, the other game in the 4 o' clock Sunday slate, Colts, Rams, which have you said big game?
Roy
I think I don't want to do.
Zaz
Spoilers, but I told you that already.
Chris
I think I can compete with Tony in terms of friends doing things that we don't like them to do because I'm traveling. Dan painted it as a boys trip. This is a couple's trip. Going away from my, one of my oldest friends 40th birthdays.
Tony
Age, wise old.
Chris
Like he's turning 40. Yes.
Tony
So oldest friends?
Chris
Well, no, like one of my longest friends. Apologies.
Zaz
Why don't you say longest?
Chris
Anyways, so we're going on a cruise. Okay. And I have this thing when I go on cruise cruises, I get the drink package. Anytime I see a group with matching shirts, you do a shot. Oh, and I love this game. I'm gonna be that group this weekend. They're doing matching shirts. We got sent to my house yesterday. It says blame happy 40th. What stay. What happens on the cruise stays on the cruise. Like we're gonna be those people the first day of the cruise wearing the matching shirts. And I've always loathed this. And it's this one friend. It's, it's. I'm gonna call him by name. It's Matt and his wife. They did this for his bachelor party when we did Epcot around the world. It's the only friends of mine that matters. It is wife I like. If, if you really want to get to the, to the weeds of it. I don't think Matt's doing this. Yeah, but it's matching shirts and I don't want to be wearing them. All right.
Zaz
I need to ask you something first about this drink package because this is always a debate for me when we go on cruises. How much do you have to drink in a day to feel like, okay, this was worth it?
Chris
I think the general line is anywhere from eight to eight to eleven. And, and the nine and a half.
Mike Ryan
Drinks is the line.
Chris
And the boy is starting. We're starting at 10am by the pool. So, like this is not an issue if you're a Cody, this is not a problem for you.
Mike Ryan
Start earlier.
Chris
I'm robbing the place.
Roy
Well, the cruise. Are you coming to work on Monday? Are you going to be off next? I actually, it's a one day cruise.
Chris
This is a cruise out of Port Canaveral. So I'm traveling up to Orlando. I will not be in Monday because of that.
Zaz
So how many days are you on this cruise?
Chris
Cruise we leave Friday afternoon ports Monday morning and then I drive back.
Zaz
So for the weekend you're gonna have at least 30 drinks is what you're saying.
Chris
You want me to try to count? Because I think I'll smash that over.
Mike Ryan
Please try to count. I would like to see.
Chris
Well, I can, I can see. You ever do this move? I, I kind of feel pride and shame when you look at the day because it, the way it works on your drink. You get a bill and it's all $0. But it's like every, it tells you every bar you gotta drink.
Mike Ryan
17.
Chris
Like I'm telling you. Yeah, like I on a good day, like, like on Saturday when we hit cococay, like you're talking, I'm talking 20. I'm thinking 20.
Zaz
What number would it have to be for you to be a little bit.
Chris
Like that was a lot over 25. And I'm like that's crazy.
Zaz
25 drinks in a day.
Roy
The apple martini doesn't fall far from the tree on this one. Like these guys, they're the only thing that the Cody's like more than a drink is a bargain. So they're going to make sure to.
Mike Ryan
Get their money and both of them together, man. Don't sell yourself short there, but I'm.
Chris
Telling you, I know it sounds crazy. 20 drinks. You start at 10am the way you're ordering these drinks. I'll take a shot here. Like you can get to 15 before like 4pm Fellas can drink on this show.
Mike Ryan
Ooh, fellas can drink. No, but we like drinks.
Roy
I mean 15 drinks. No, that's gonna feel bad. You're gonna be useless to us next week. Just totally useless. I want to give you guys some football stats and I want you guys to tell me which one of these you find most interesting. Okay. Derek Henry has two fourth quarter fumbles this season. Before that he had two, four fourth quarter fumbles in 136 games. The Giants, while they're in the division of the Eagles who have won 19 of 20.
Zaz
That's a good team.
Roy
The Giants are 3 and 17 since the start of last season. And since day ball started seven two, he's 11, 33 and one. So he has done nothing since the initial start where he made us all think that Daniel Jones was good for a while and then we wandered away and are like it's not good. And then he's back to being good again. MVP and Ashton Gentry, Ash Genty 68% of the time this season he's being hit behind the line of scrimmage. He's, he's breaking tackles. He's, he's got 150 yards after contact, but it's always contact in the backfield. Three out of four plays, Ashton Genti is getting the ball and he's getting hit before he gets to the line of scrimmage.
Zaz
He definitely hates his life right that offensive line.
Roy
I I Mina and others thought the Raiders were going to be good at offense. They got Pete Carroll, they got Geno Smith, they got Tom Brady and they can't do anything.
Chris
Gino's up there in yards.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, because they're so far behind. He's constantly chucking it up. I'm kind of shocked at how sideways this is going for the Raiders in two weeks.
Roy
What are your thoughts on which of those stats was the most interesting one?
Zaz
I think the Genti. I mean, it seems like a miserable existence if you're Ash and Genti through.
Mike Ryan
Three games, we were all so certain. This guy, I know he doesn't have the pro body type, but we were all certain watching college football is that guy's really, really good. And if there's ever an argument to pick a running back high, it's Genti. But then I do remember the photos of him at the Heisman ceremony and he is so much smaller than all the other guys. I'm like, I'm curious to see how this is going to look in the NFL. So far it doesn't look great, but it doesn't look great because he's getting hit behind the line of scrimmage because Dan mentioned he is breaking tackles. He's just not going to look the same kind of dynamic if he's getting hit that often in the backfield.
Roy
The other thing in this sport that I think is either undercovered or covered poorly. Okay, Lane Johnson left the game the other day for the Eagles and they had 10 yards on the next six drives because Lane Johnson is enormously important to that football team. And I don't think we talk about offensive linemen enough. I don't think when I say Trent Williams, you know what I'm saying. When I say Lane Johnson, you know what I'm saying. But after that, you don't think of dominant offensive linemen and the idea that the Eagles would lose Lane Johnson and a team that has won 19 of 20 for the next six drives would get a total of 10 yards because they can't do very much if Lane Johnson's not out there mauling everybody.
Mike Ryan
We don't know what we're watching. We don't know what. We don't know how to evaluate quarterback play. We don't know the routes, so we don't know how good a receiver is. We're doing our best with the information that we have and we don't even have a live all 22 most of the cases. It is a little confusing to me though how in a game of real estate acquisition, we choose to ignore general units because who cares? Like individual, like it's hard to tell like what a guard does, I guess they pull. Yeah, they can pull and some sometimes, sometimes they push. But individual units should absolutely be talked about way more. Like the Eagles offensive line unit gets talked about a lot. They don't have Jason Kelsey, so less so now. But it's the game. They literally put a ball where they think you move the line of scrimmage to and a lot of teams base their identity on literally just doing that. We are going to push our way down the field and it's. It opens everything up. It opens everything up for the quarterback. It makes every other player on the field that much better and we just choose to ignore it.
Tony
If you put important importance on every single unit on a football team. Are the Eagles offensive line the best unit in football?
Mike Ryan
I love that take. Yes, yes.
Tony
Like receiver, quarterback, room, DBs, linebackers, across the board.
Mike Ryan
The most important, the single most important unit in, in the sport program.
Zaz
So you're asking are the. Is the Eagles offensive line better at what they do than the best quarterback?
Mike Ryan
NFL better than Patrick Mahomes or. Or Josh Allen? I think the Eagles offensive line over the last few years has been better at its job than even Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes have been at their individual job.
Chris
I raise you the Bengals wide receivers.
Tony
It's a good room, yeah, but burrows out and all of a sudden Jamar Chase T. Higgins had one catch last week.
Roy
When you guys talk about guard play, I was trying not to be prisoner of the moment during that University of Miami Florida game when I said Brockenmeier, that's the worst game I've ever seen a center play because I just, I'm not watching the center and so I'm not ever noticing what the hell the center's doing. I'm like, why does he keep getting penalties? Why can't he snap the ball on time? Why is the center getting multiple false starts?
Mike Ryan
Grades are really high for them.
Roy
I don't know what I'm watching.
Mike Ryan
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Date: September 24, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Key Guests/Contributors: Jessica Smetana, Roy, Mike Ryan, Tony, Zaz, Chris
This hour dives into a classic mix of sports talk, comedic banter, and pop-culture observations—primarily centered around college football, NFL storylines, and an extended, hilarious debate on life logistics (like 10am Ludacris concerts and birthday parties scheduled during big games). Jessica Smetana makes a lively guest appearance, offering detailed football insight balanced with relatable and quirky personal anecdotes.
Thursday Night Football & Betting Takes
Mike Gundy’s Firing & Iconic Pressers
Alabama-Georgia & Broader CFB Landscape
Notable College Football Analytics
Why All Concerts Should Be in the Morning
Generational Gaps & Love of Sleep
Wit Weeks/Lane Kiffin’s Daughter
Sister Jean "Retirement" Mix-Up
Ray Hudson’s “Call of the Day”
“The Onion” Roasts The Pat McAfee Show
Tony rants about a friend scheduling a child’s birthday party at 3PM on a Sunday, right during a Chiefs-Ravens game, igniting a group vent about non-sports fans’ lack of awareness.
Chris shares the dread of being on a cruise in matching shirts for a friend's 40th, admitting these traditions are usually orchestrated by wives, and tracking whether his drink package is "worth it" (i.e., must have 8-11 drinks a day).
Quote: “I know it sounds crazy. 20 drinks. You start at 10am... Like you can get to 15 before like 4pm.”
— Chris (38:56)
Roy shares fascinating stats about Derrick Henry’s rare fumbles, Giants’ dismal division record, and particularly the misery of Ash Genty, who’s hit behind the line on over two-thirds of his carries.
Panel ponders the true value of offensive linemen, suggesting the Eagles’ o-line is possibly the best “unit” in all of football, more important than even great QBs or WR corps.
Quote: "If you put importance on every single unit on a football team. Are the Eagles offensive line the best unit in football?"
— Tony (43:09)
Mike Ryan doubles down: “The Eagles offensive line over the last few years has been better at its job than even Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes have been at their individual job.”
(43:35)
The episode is a feverish blend of sharp sports analysis, zany cultural takes, and deeply human comedy. The tone is playful, irreverent, and inviting—perfect for both diehard sports fans and listeners who love their football chat with a side of “life gets in the way” relatability. Jessica Smetana’s energy and specificity keeps the CFB segments informative and breezy, while recurring group tangents highlight why this show’s chemistry remains uniquely charming.
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