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Jeremy
Terms DraftKings.com this is the Dan Levator.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Show with the St.
Dan Le Batard
Is the king of Radio Row there? Is he there?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Yes. Danny, how are you, pal?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, he's already there and he's ready to go. And he answers to the king of Radio Row. He knew.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
No, I don't mean it that way, but I knew you were chatting, so I figured I'd fill you in.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, what's going on? We've already started and I've identified Chris Mad Dog Russo as the king of Radio Row, because who's more of the king of Radio Row than you? I think of you and Jim Rome with his bodyguards, but you don't do bodyguards because you're a man of the people.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Funny there, Danny. Well done. Yeah, 1990, so a long time doing this. And there was no radio row in 1990. Niners and Broncos in New Orleans, three or four of us there, the local radio guy, Howard Eskin, Eddie Andleman, guys that you are familiar with, and in a hotel lobby at the Hyatt 5510.
Dan Le Batard
San Francisco, you invented Radio Row. Then you're saying you were at the original Radio Row and it wasn't a row.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
No, it wasn't original.
Jeremy
No.
Dan Le Batard
But there were three people there, is what you're saying.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Well, Pete Franklin for WFAN went the year before. That was the San Francisco. That was the Miami Super Bowl. No, that was San Francisco, Cincinnati in Miami, and he went to that. And when I was at wfan, and I'm sure Pete went to some radio rows prior to that, in the early 80s. So I am not the originator of Radio Row. I think that WFAN, the fact that we did 247 and then the Giants got to the Super bowl in 1991, our third or fourth year there, I think that had something to do with it. That was the one In Tampa, when they beat the Bills, the first one that I recall, where they actually put us in some sort of convention setting in a hotel ballroom was the Dallas buffalo game in 93, 53, 17, and of course, BB so 52, 17, whoever. The final was, BB against Leon Lett at the Rose Bowl. That is the first one that I recall that there was, you know, say, seven or eight stations in the same area at Universal City in. In L. A. That was that Super Bowl. They were the Cowboys, which was their first. First that they won. They beat Buffalo, obviously, twice. They beat Pittsburgh, and that was the first one that they beat the Bills in. Greg Cody, how would I remember?
Dan Le Batard
Were you pointing at Chris Russo? Because you're laughing that he gets the scores right or likes giving the scores from 30 years ago. Because he's. He's a bit. He's. He's showing off when he does that, and rightly so.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I am. I am. I am sure. Good job, Danny. I am showing off a little bit. But that was the. I think it was 3,117 Cowboys start of the fourth quarter against Buffalo. That's when Reich, when Jim Kelly got hurt and Wright played the second half, and then Dallas. That was not Buffalo's first Super Bowl. That was their third, but it was Dallas first. So the Bills had already lost to the Giants in Washington, and then Dallas killed them that year. Those are the early days for me doing this. Now. There were a lot of guys, including our old pal Joe Brown, who worked for the NFL, who went to every Super bowl from Super Bowl 2. And remember, I think she's passed away. Clark Kent's mom went to every Super Bowl. Her Chiefs were in Super Bowl 1 against Green Bay, and that was in 66. So there are some who have been to every single one. The first one that I went to was Super Bowl 24 with San Francisco and the Bengals. So I'm 24 behind certain people.
Jeremy
How's that now, dog? Radio Row has certainly changed a lot over the years. Lots of podcasts now on Radio Row just. Do podcasts belong on Radio Row.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
You know, who am I to say? You know, you're the king.
Dan Le Batard
You're the king of Radio Row.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Danny, you and I both know there is a difference between podcasts and doing a daily show Monday through Friday. The grind of it. There is a little difference. Everybody is piling on. They want to do podcasts. It's the Super Bowl. Little Chris Russo is not going to say they can't. But you're right, that adds to the aura and the plethora of media here at these games. Remember, this is a weird one because the game is 45, 44 miles away. I mean, they should be called The San Jose 49ers, not the San Francisco 49ers. The game is 45. I mean, that stadium is 45 miles from here. I mean, it's the furthest away from a city's name, I think, of any team in the league, for crying out loud. I mean, MetLife is 10 miles from downtown Manhattan, 44 from this. Now, there was only been a couple Super Bowls here, right? Dolphins played in Palo Alto against the Niners when Marino got killed. That was in Palo Alto, if I'm not mistaken. And then you had the Carolina one against Denver in Super Bowl 50. Is this only the third one? It might be in the history of the NFL. I'm not positive. I don't think.
Jeremy
Count that.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I think it's the third one.
Dan Le Batard
Juju, put it on the poll, please. Should they be the San Jose 49ers instead of San Francisco 49ers? That is a good one because they're 44 minutes away.
Jeremy
Think you were kidding. This is the king of Radio Row. We went on a fascinating deep dive. The reason why Radio Row exists the way it does today is because of Mad Dog Russo. Jeremy, fill them in. In 92 in Minneapolis, mad Dog was going to do a broadcast live from inside the Hyatt Hotel in which they said Mad Dog was staying. And the Hyatt said, well, you got to pay $40,000. So they said, we'll go do it at the Holiday Inn across the street for free. So they did that. And because of the success that happened in Minneapolis the Following year in 93, WFAN said, We're sending everybody. We're broadcasting live.
Dan Le Batard
Did you know that you'd invented it? Were you not aware that you did it?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
That was. Well, first off, good job by Jeremy. That was the Mike and Amanda. I do remember, we did not stay. We stayed in a Hyatt in Minneapolis. That was that cold weather. One of the first cold weather Super Bowls. And Minneapolis did a great job with it. And that's when Buffalo got killed by Washington and Thurman Thomas misplaced his helmet. You guys remember that, of course. And missed the first play. And I do remember, remember we did this show in a different location than the Hyatt lobby. I did not know about. I have heard that story recently, but at the time, Danny, I was not aware of the $40,000 fee. So if that is the case, that would answer why, in fact, there was a change in philosophy with the NFL of making it radio row. Now, the year before that, remember, that was Giants in Buffalo and Mike and I went to the championship game that year in San Francisco. That was the 3P game in which the Giants, you know, Roger Craig fumbled and the Giants ended up kicking that.
Jeremy
Field goal by field goals.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Won the game. Yeah, I think it was 15, 14, 15, 4. They were down 14, 12. Craig fumbled. Giants go down the field with Hostetler and kick the field goal. And there was no week off that year because of the war. So we went right from San Francisco to Tampa and we did the show at the Tampa Hyatt. So there was not a media role then, but there was a lot of Giant fans who came down for the game and they watched the show at the second floor of the Tampa Hyatt. And the Tampa Hyatt hired a band for the week and the band said, we can't do this because all the Giant fans came down and wanted to hear Mike and Chris do a show on the Giants. So the band left and we controlled the second floor of the Tampa Hyatt. There was with the great Buffalo giants Super Bowl 2019, with the field goal missed by Norwood, as you know, the 48 yarder. And I remember we had George young on at 5 o' clock on Friday afternoon. There must have been three Giants.
Dan Le Batard
GM of the Giants. The GM of the Giants.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
There you go. Who used to work with the. Who was the player personnel director for Shula with Miami. Damn right. Who in who? In fact, there must have been 300 giant fans watching George Young. I remember that. That was in 1990.
Jeremy
What war?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
What war? That was Persian Gulf war. What year in 1990? 1990.
Jeremy
Wasn't even born.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
So that was. There was no week off. They changed that. No week off. And getting in to the sombrero in Tampa, that was the old stadium. That's where the game was getting in. You had to get there basically four hours before game time because of precaution. And there was Whitney Houston did the national anthem. And they were basically snipers on top of the stadium because of the tensions with the war. That's a famous one. That's a famous one.
Jeremy
I don't think we've spoken about anything in this interview that's happened in the last 20 years.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Yeah, I know. Well, you get me on. You're going to. You get me on, you guys. You're going to be talking about. I'm 100 years old. You're talking about the old Days, for crying out loud.
Dan Le Batard
He headlines Mad Dog Sports radio on Sirius XM, including Mad Dog Unleashed weekdays at 3pm Eastern. You can also see him every week on First Take. He's got obviously a gift for the genius of what sports radio is. And Chris, I asked this question sincerely, out of curiosity. Do you believe that everything you say is interesting? Because I think you kind of have to in order to be as good at delivering interesting things as you are. So I don't mean it as an insult. As you're talking, you used to talk for six and a half hours a day, right? Like your show at one point was six and a half hours. And I think that probably mutates you into somebody who's got to believe everything he's saying is interesting.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Well, you have to be a good salesman because you have to convince the audience that what you are saying is interesting. So that's the first thing a good talk show host has to do, especially if it's on for a long period of time. As you said, Danny, Mike and I won 1 to 6:30. And then when I got to serious, it was 2 to 7 and no commercials at Sirius. So if you're going to do a show on those scenarios, you got to make sure that what you say you're into, because if you're into and you're enthusiastic, you can convince the audience, well, he cares about it, so it must be something I should care about. And that's where being a good salesman is important. And my father was a salesman, so that's where that gene came from. You know, I think you gotta have that. I think you gotta have a little curiosity. I think you gotta be able to, you know, be interested in certain, a lot of different things. History helps. You've been doing this a long time, Dan. You have that same gene. If you're curious, that will help you, Danny, be a good talk show host. So I like to think myself as curious and I like the history of it. So if you like the history of it, you're curious and you got a crazy personality. You can be a talk show host if that is in fact what you want to be. You know, when I started in the early 80s in Jacksonville and Orlando, the second job I had was WKIS in Orlando, Good News, talk station 74am I did 6 to 8 and the old general manager who hired me, fella by the name of Mike Geyer who put Bob Trumpy on the air at CKY in Cincinnati. Trumpy just passed away about what, six months ago. So he knew, he brought Me in the office one day, this would have been probably 85. And he said, chris, you have the perfect blend for a talk show host. You know, you got all those little ingredients to make you a good host. And Guyer told me that in 85. So I've thought about that my whole life. And he put Trumpie on the air. And Chumppy was a good talk show host, too, at CKY. So in Orlando, 6 to 8 Monday through Friday, in the mid-80s, I'm sitting here doing sports talk at 24, 25 years of age. So there you have it. Longevity is important. 40 years of doing this. 40 years. Mad Dog, what's your favorite Bad Bunny song? My fabric. Bad money. What do you mean? Bad money? Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny. Oh, babe, I. I couldn't tell you the pan you got.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
You got the wrong. I could tell you my favorite CCR song. No, I could tell you my favorite.
Katie Nolan
Sure, let's go there.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
My favorite Doors song. But I can't give you the. That's a little rough, that one.
Jeremy
I can't.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I'm not good at that stuff.
Dan Le Batard
That's okay.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Doing a halftime. So now I understand.
Dan Le Batard
That's all right. Let's play the sound for Mad Dog to see how it is. I don't think he's self conscious about these things. We've done a form of this before. What happened to you here?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Mad Dog, out of the quarterback in this ball game. Here, stick them. Stick them.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, yeah.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Yeah. That was funny. Where did I come up with that? Where did I. Where did I say that? I mean, I said that two weeks ago. What station did I say? Oh, I said it. WKCY on F8. I. What station?
Jeremy
WKC.
Dan Le Batard
He's being a smart ass. Don't listen.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I say.
Dan Le Batard
I.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Here's what I did. I said it on our show and Jimmy Trainor picked it up and then everybody heard it. That's what I did. Yeah, and stid him and stick him instead of Stidham. That was pretty stupid. But, you know, you know the half court shot I attempted there a few weeks ago, back a couple of months ago? You know, that's the thing. You can't take yourself too seriously. Be yourself. Try to be authentic. And if people think you're a nut sometimes, what's the big deal? You must be doing something right. You've been doing this a long time.
Dan Le Batard
You're doing it.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
You must be doing something right.
Dan Le Batard
Lightning round.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
That was a bad one, though. That was a bad one.
Dan Le Batard
Lightning round instead of Stidham. Lightning round. Because you got to get out of here. Headlines Mad Dog Sports radio on Sirius xm. I'm just going to do this. So rapid fire. Best city to host the Super Bowl.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I know this sounds crazy. I love Minneapolis. They took advantage and they capitalized on all the snow. That was the one with Buffalo and Washington.
Dan Le Batard
It is crazy.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
What you say is crazy. And they had stuff what you could do and they took advantage of their surrounding scenarios.
Dan Le Batard
Lightning round. Most entertaining super bowl game that I.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Have seen before I worked Dallas, Pittsburgh 35, 31. Back in the late 70s when Thomas Henderson said bradshaw can't spell cat. If you spouted them the C and a T, which is fine.
Dan Le Batard
Best food to eat watching the super bowl nachos. Best halftime performer, Spankstein.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Tampa.
Dan Le Batard
Seahawks or Patriots?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Seahawks. I'd be shocked if they lose.
Dan Le Batard
Enjoy bad money and the halftime show good.
Jeremy
They're great dog, by the way. They are amazing.
Dan Le Batard
You were great. Appreciate it, Mad Dog. Thank you.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
All right, Danny.
Dan Le Batard
Always appreciate it, Jeremy.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Thank you.
Jeremy
Legend.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
You got a pal.
Dan Le Batard
I got eight Danny's. Eight Danny's. That's a record for me. I'm so happy to get eight Danny's from him. It's the highest honor. The highest honor. Him and Wilbon. The only ones allowed to call me Danny.
Jeremy
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Jeremy
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Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
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Dan Le Batard
Don lebatar I actually thought you looked.
Jeremy
Kind of good, Stugarts.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Thank you.
Jeremy
Hey, the beard's grown out a little bit.
Dan Le Batard
I got a little life in my face.
Jeremy
I feel like little tan. Colorado, San Francisco. I had a great time. You got life on your face.
Dan Le Batard
You got death on your face.
Jeremy
I think you got 40 to life on your face. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Big guy. No one's gonna realize we're wearing different clothes. We're not gonna get those flimsy accusations that were lazy.
Dan Le Batard
Just because someone noticed on Reddit that it was taped.
Jeremy
Don't let it get to us.
Dan Le Batard
This time we did the work.
Jeremy
It's the first time they experienced it. How is it lazy?
Dan Le Batard
It's just show.
Jeremy
If anything, we should get credit for not being lazy because we worked extra yesterday for the listener. Don't let it get to you.
Dan Le Batard
Do not crack. Speaking of which, we're working extra after the show today and tomorrow because our post game today is just going to be everybody talking about the NBA and the trade deadline. You guys are going to stay live on the show here for a while. Tony and Zaz and Jeremy and a cast of characters are going to be doing more, more NBA talk as part of the post game today. It'll be live on YouTube and also tomorrow we're going to do a live stream up to the trade deadline. We're going to enjoy ourselves and fool around. Also, very happy to see on my screen someone right now who is at the height of her powers. It's not just Casuals with Katie Nolan, Tuesdays and Thursdays. It's not just her daily Sirius XM show fan service. Her Patriots are back. She's sitting down with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. She is maximum New England. Right?
Jeremy
That's a tough five years that that poor fan base had to endure.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, right. There's a whole generation of five year olds who have never seen the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Katie, it is nice to see you again. Weekdays, 12 Eastern on Mad Dog Sports Radio. I want to bring you in here first and I know that Cody's got some opinions here. He thinks the winner this year of the Westminster Dog show, he thinks that the dog is simply ugly. So what kind of, what kind of preamble do you want to give this for context?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Okay, a minor correction. Not ugly, but scary. This looks like if the devil had a pet dog, it would be the Westminster Kennel show champion. It's a, it's a Doberman pinscher and it is one of the scariest dogs ever. And when I think of the Westminster Kennel Club, I might, I want my winner to be a cocker spaniel, you know, or, or just something a little, even a poodle. You know, just something cute like you could imagine having in your own home as opposed to that animal.
Katie Nolan
A poodle is cute. That's not cute. Yeah.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Come on. If you saw that dog walking down a sidewalk toward you, you'd run like hell. Am I right?
Dan Le Batard
Dog is perfect.
Katie Nolan
There's a good, I mean, literally. That's the point. That's what they give the award out for. That's. You never played the game, you know, so you couldn't possibly know what they're looking. I think it's beautiful. It's a beautiful dog. I also think he beat the. An Afghan hound that was the runner up. Was like one of those long haired. How do you feel about an Afghan hound?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I love an Afghan hound. Compared to that animal with the pointed.
Katie Nolan
Ears, you sound very scared.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
It's a devil's dog.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. All right. Well, he won, so deal with it, you know.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I am dealing with it.
Katie Nolan
Good.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll. Did the devil's dog just win the Westminster Dog Show? And also the poor thing, Best in show. This reminds me, I've not talked and we have not talked about the passing of Catherine o'. Hara. I am certain that Katie's got some opinions on this because that was a heartbreak. One of the great funny people of all time. What do you think of her as first? First if you have to, because best in show is about the first time that I knew of her work most resonantly.
Jeremy
Really? Beetlejuice did nothing for me.
Dan Le Batard
Well, I think of that as a Michael Keaton vehicle.
Jeremy
Home Alone.
Dan Le Batard
And I don't love Home Alone. That wasn't.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, Home Alone is the first. You didn't wait. You didn't love Home Alone?
Jeremy
He thought of it more as a Macaulay Culkin vehicle.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, okay.
Katie Nolan
Yes, of course. Yeah. Home Alone's the first thing I think of when I think of Catherine o'. Hara. But like Moira Rose her on Schitt's Creek, she was just like consistent. She is consistently funny while also doing it differently. It's not the same every time, but it's always reliably hilarious. I think she was one of the funniest women on earth and I was deeply saddened to hear of her passing. Such a shock. And it really rocked me. I haven't been like knocked over by a celebrity death like that in a while.
Jeremy
Was the studio the last thing she did?
Katie Nolan
Yeah, I think so. And I think they just started filming the next season of that, so that must be a real bummer. Yeah, she was real sad.
Jeremy
She was having a great, so funny third act too in her career. It's like everybody realized we didn't give this person proper appreciation and she started hogging all the roles. I actually have a.
Katie Nolan
She deserved them.
Jeremy
Give her more quick top five for her best things said on Schitt's Creek. And it was tough to narrow it down. I do have an oli, which is the scene where they fold in the cheese.
Katie Nolan
Next step is to fold in the cheese.
Jeremy
What does that mean? What does fold in the cheese mean?
Katie Nolan
He folds it in.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I understand that but how do you fold it? Do you fold it in half like a piece of paper and drop it in the pot? Or what do you do?
Katie Nolan
David, I cannot show you everything.
Jeremy
Okay, well, number five, the way she. Baby.
Katie Nolan
Do you realize the Bebe is crying?
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I do, yes.
Katie Nolan
Isn't it scheduled to be dormant by now?
Jeremy
Isn't it scheduled to be dormant by now? Four, the way that she reacts to finding out her grown adult daughter has lice.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Well, Alexis has lice.
Jeremy
What?
Dan Le Batard
Ew.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Ew.
Katie Nolan
I assume you shaved her head and we have to put a wig on you. But not one of my wigs.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
These have to be boxed.
Dan Le Batard
Now, Moira, I've got it all taken care of. And I think twice about that garden. Oh, it's too late.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
The notion of that garden is as.
Katie Nolan
Abhorrent to me as our daughter's scalp.
Dan Le Batard
And I was worried about you overreacting.
Jeremy
Number three, the Herb Ertlinger fruit wine commercial. You could pick it up.
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. Muskmelon goodness to his oak Chardonnay and the dazzling peach curl Batpul to his Riesling Rioja. Come taste the difference good fruit can make in your wine.
Jeremy
Number two, her advice about taking nude photos of yourself when the Internet can't find them.
Katie Nolan
Then allow me to offer you some advice. Take a thousand naked pictures of yourself. Now, you may currently think, oh, I'm too spooky, or, nobody wants to see these tiny boobies, but believe me, one day you will look at those photos with much kinder eyes and say, dear God, I was a beautiful thing. Oh, and make sure you submit those photos to the Internet. Otherwise your own children will go looking for them one day and tragically, they won't be there.
Jeremy
And number one, the only way to respond to if someone else asks you for plans you don't want to do.
Katie Nolan
I am booked up, David. You should see my schedule. I'm positively bedeviled with meetings, et cetera.
Jeremy
The goat.
Dan Le Batard
Damn, Katie. I will remind everybody that Jeremy began presenting that by saying, I'm going to do this quickly.
Katie Nolan
Sitting at Radio Row, just listening to. And I love it. I do love Moira Rose clips, but I just. People are walking by looking at me, and I'm just listening and laughing. I feel very uncomfortable. There's a screen with just my face on it as I sit in a chair and famous people walk by.
Jeremy
Sorry, Katie.
Katie Nolan
They can't tell if I'm on air or not. They don't know what's happening. It's very uncomfortable. But thank you for playing those clips. I love them.
Dan Le Batard
They had you on to just sit there right now.
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Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Every cup game and at what?
Jeremy
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Dan Le Batard
Can you tell me how you felt about Belichick not making the hall of Fame? And did you hear any opinions that sort of landed with you and you're like, okay, that makes sense.
Katie Nolan
None of it makes sense. In a world where we say the phrase first ballot hall of Famer and it means something, none of this makes any sense. It's absurd, it's stupid, it's embarrassing. I think it should be a thing that leads to them changing the way they do that vote. That committee that votes on those five candidates. I heard somebody say that because he was. I think the rationale we heard was because it was so obvious that he was gonna get in. They spent their votes on guys it was less obvious for. That's not how it works. It's the hall of Fame. It's a binary question, yes or no, And Bill Belichick is always a yes. It doesn't make sense to me.
Jeremy
Katie, if it was up to you and you could only put one of Belichick or Kraft in, who goes in?
Katie Nolan
Belichick.
Dan Le Batard
Did you have any sort of reaction to Kraft not getting in?
Katie Nolan
Honestly, I'm not happy to say this. I was kind of relieved because I feel like it would have dominated the conversation if Kraft got in and Belichick didn't, and it would have been all we talk about this week leading up to the super bowl. And. And I did not want to have that conversation. I don't like talking about the internal politics of the team that brought me some of my favorite victories. As a sports fan, I'd ra just make fun of how one of them's dating a really young gal now, you know.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Katie, what do you think of the proposition that Belichick is just being penalized and will get in next year? He's being punished for Spygate.
Katie Nolan
I think he already was punished for Spygate, and it was a record punishment. There was the most a coach had ever been fined. So I feel like, at what point does that stop? How many Super Bowls do you have to win before they're like, okay, we don't need to punish you in this way? I mean, we talk about Bill Belichick and say, like, future first ballot hall of Famer. It was just a thing you say and you don't even think twice about, and now it's not true. We were all wrong and lying.
Dan Le Batard
How do you feel about Greg Cody's pinky ring? Do you have an opinion of any kind?
Katie Nolan
I can't see it. How would I see it? I got no monitor of you guys. I'm just talking to a big picture of myself who did her own hair and makeup, and it's really not. I don't think I did a good job. Am I. Can I look online and see your pinky ring? I bet I hate it.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I bet you do.
Dan Le Batard
Okay. It's okay. I'm sorry. I thought that you had video there. That's my bad. How have you enjoyed Radio Row? What's that experience been like for you?
Katie Nolan
It's good. The last time I actually did a Radio Row here for Super Bowl 50, I had a TV show then, so I had, like, a lot more going on. But it's nice. It's like, it's. It today. It's starting to fill. I think tomorrow will be, like, the busy day today. Yesterday was a little slow, but it's always funny to just walk around and go like, oh, that's Octavia Spencer. That's. Why is she here? This is. There's just random famous people that you bump into. And I like that. It's a fun environment.
Dan Le Batard
Did you have some nerves about Affleck and Damon?
Katie Nolan
Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? We found out, like, two days before that we got it. I had no idea we were even trying to get it. Terrified. The scariest. The hardest part of that interview for me was that, no offense, they brought their director, and I just couldn't have cared much less. And I felt like I didn't want that to come across, but it's like, I got 20 minutes, and the two of them, I, you know. Hi. Thank you for being here. Mind if I just focus on these two? I don't think I did a good job. That's my thing I sit with now is I'm like, hopefully I get another chance someday, because I didn't knock it out of the park. But it was fun, and they were awesome and everything I dreamed of and I didn't Throw up. So that's good.
Jeremy
You like Affleck and Damon, but you hate Miami. I'm wondering if you watched the Rip.
Katie Nolan
I did watch the rip. Is that a real thing? Miami has a real. A law that you have to count the money that you seize from a crime scene on the scene.
Jeremy
I. I think that might be, like, a federal law.
Katie Nolan
It seems like they said it was specifically. I thought they specifically said.
Jeremy
They also called it.
Katie Nolan
Did you watch the Rip, Mike?
Jeremy
I did. They called it Hialeah, and I checked out.
Katie Nolan
How do you say. How do you say it?
Jeremy
Hialeah.
Katie Nolan
Oh.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Oh, God.
Katie Nolan
I've always said Hialeah. Hey, do you guys Ms. Mike McDaniel? Are you sad about that?
Jeremy
I did watch Dan Soder's reaction to it. And who's the gentleman that he does the podcast with?
Katie Nolan
Mark Norman. What do you mean, Mark Norman?
Jeremy
Mark Norman, the guy that was just.
Katie Nolan
An episode of his podcast. He doesn't do that.
Jeremy
Mark Norman's reactions to Dan's fiery hot takes were my favorite part.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, Dan was like. He found out what our side of the business is like when, like, awful announcing wrote, like, Dan Soder goes off on Miami's front office. And he was like, why is everybody taking what I said so seriously? Like, welcome to the game, dude. This is how it goes. Sports media doesn't care if you were joking or not. You were mad. And now they've posted it, and he was, like, getting all the sports media reactions instead of, like, comedy fans, which he got to live in our world for a little bit.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
What?
Dan Le Batard
And me and my friend.
Katie Nolan
What?
Jeremy
Hey.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Jesus Christ.
Katie Nolan
Oh. Mark Normand.
Dan Le Batard
How. How did Dan. Norman. How did Dan. Norman. How did Dan really feel? I mean, he said how he really felt, but he obviously had information that because he's child.
Katie Nolan
No, he's just. He doesn't. He's just upset. He's like, your friend gets fired from a job that you think he was good at, I would hope you go to bat for your friend. They weren't, like, texting. He doesn't have inside information. He just found out from me. I actually had to be the one to tell him. I found out. My producer texted me and said, McDaniel out in Miami. Dan was at the gym. And Dan's a weirdo who doesn't bring his phone to the gym. He doesn't listen to music. He just works out silently. And he came back upstairs as I was getting ready to leave, and he walked in the door, and I was like, I have bad news. He was like, what? And I said, mcdaniel got fired. He went beeline to the bedroom, grabbed any dolphin stuff. I didn't let him buy a lot of merch, but he had, like, a sweatshirt and a shirt, grabbed them both, threw them on the ground, and then stomped on them. He, like, literally stomped on them in the hallway and was like, I hate this tea.
Jeremy
It's.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
It's.
Katie Nolan
I don't know. Am I allowed to say the F word? He was like, it's F the Dolphins forever. And I was like, it's always been F the Dolphins forever. I don't know why you made me root for this team for a second or go to their games, but I was trying to be supportive. And so he's out now and. And we'll see how. I think the Chargers are. I think that's going to be a good gig for him.
Jeremy
We've done good segments with this one. Clearly lands on Jeremy. It was a bad idea. We'll just ream them out in the post show. Let's keep it moving and try to salvage this.
Dan Le Batard
Katie. That's my inner monologue. That is.
Katie Nolan
Oh, it's great.
Dan Le Batard
That's beautiful. That is what I'm thinking privately. It was so much more poisonous than that, though. Like, he was being gentle, wearing a stupid sweater.
Jeremy
Hey, ball off me, Coach.
Dan Le Batard
He cleaned it up. And my inner monologue is so much angrier than that right now. I can't even tell you. How is Tom Brady improving to you? I was very critical of Tom Brady. I thought he was distractingly bad last season and early this season. What are your thoughts on Tom Brady on the broadcast?
Katie Nolan
I think he's gotten much better. I think in typical Tom Brady fashion, I feel like he must have watched tape and analyzed it and talked to people who, you know, gave him advice or constructive criticism, and I think he worked on it. I think the teeth thing is still an issue, but we don't have to focus on that. I think Tom Brady has gotten a lot better, and I think, you know, in comparison to Tony Romo, I think most people are starting to see that they would prefer Tom Brady calling a game. Is that wrong? Does that feel right?
Dan Le Batard
There is a sentiment shift that I have noticed that has been aided by Romo getting worse. It's interesting that that's the comparison point and not Greg Olson, who's better than both of them.
Katie Nolan
Yeah, well, Greg Olson's very good. He still has a job, right? Just not the top job, which I think he probably should have gotten. But, yeah, Greg Olson's great. Tony Romo this year, look, I think people loved him a lot at first. First and then turned on him really quickly. And I was hesitant to join the turning on. But this year, the thing that was grinding my gears about Tony Romo is he would always talk about it, like, if he were the coach, what he would have done and if. And then if the play would develop or whatever, and he would go, I was right. And you're like, we don't care. We don't care if you predicted it, if you were right, if that's what you would have done. Talk about what's happening, what the coach is doing, what the team is doing. It was all about. I think we got two. We gave him too much credit for the prediction stuff. And he was like, this is gonna be my whole bag. And now it's aging in a way that you're like, find a new bag. This stinks.
Dan Le Batard
And the laziest thing that he does is that he consistently says several times a broadcast that somebody is as good as anybody in the league at doing something. He does it so much, and it's just not possible for everybody that he's talking about to be better than everyone else in the league at think, yeah.
Katie Nolan
Mathematically, that would be difficult. So I get that. I hadn't noticed that, but now I will.
Jeremy
He's like KON Booty, one of the best deep route runners in the league.
Dan Le Batard
Who'd you wave at there?
Katie Nolan
It's just a guy from Dallas radio that I did.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Radio Row.
Jeremy
A radio. It's just.
Katie Nolan
Look, I'm really popular with the local radio guys. I'm really killing it.
Dan Le Batard
Can you tell us some good inside stories about you making your way through all radio road things? How does this one compare to any of the others you've heard about or been around?
Katie Nolan
It's. Look, it's. It's still early days. I know you're not here for whatever reason, God forbid you show up and come hang out at the Super Bowl.
Dan Le Batard
I hate Radio Row. Always have.
Katie Nolan
So what we all do. We're all here. Kay Adams is here. I just walked by. She was doing an interview with Gronk, and I was like, oh, I would love to say hi to either of you, but I'm not. You're on. That's the weird thing about Radio Row is, like, you're. Sometimes you're just sitting here with a headset on. Sometimes you're listening to somebody play a bunch of clips to you, and people think you're just doing a. Like, getting set up so they'll Come over and you're like, I'm on tv. So the.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
The.
Katie Nolan
That vibe of Radio Row. I don't like the best experience I've had so far. Last night I got to go out to dinner with Mad Dog and. And Stephen A. Smith. And that was a very fun. Yeah, Stephen A. Showed up a little late because he obviously had other engagements, but it was just a fun. You know, the Mad Dog throws us dinner for the. Everybody that works on his channel on Sirius. And it was just like a. A fun little moment. I liked that quite a bit. Walked up a lot of hills to get there. The hills of San Francisco. They're not lying. It's a lot.
Dan Le Batard
I will tell all of you to listen to her in the two places that I've caught her recently where she is showing off some of her best work. Casuals with Katie Nolan. Tuesdays and Thursdays and what are you laughing at? Sirius xm.
Katie Nolan
Some of my best work. I appreciate it.
Dan Le Batard
Fan service with Katie Nolan where she's doing a daily show for an hour where she's got a cool relationship with her audience. Thank you, Katie. Good talking to you.
Katie Nolan
Yeah. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, everybody.
Jeremy
Good to see you guys. Katie, sorry for wasting your time. Except you, Jeremy.
Katie Nolan
You didn't waste my time. I miss you. I wish you were here.
Dan Le Batard
He wasted your time and I'm seething about it. And there will be notes after the show and in fact, Mike, can you hold up the. No, no, you don't need to write it down. We have it because of. Yeah, we just have it. Just grab what we have back there that we hold up every show so that the audience can see what is always the notes after show.
Jeremy
Really quick as we filibuster to find that note for Jeremy, who was just very poor in that segment. Can we find the picture of Dan who looks like Charlie Weiss? I've been really wanting to see that.
Dan Le Batard
All right. So really unflattering, right? That can't be true.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Is that Poppy?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. I feel terrible about that. How could we let this happen?
Jeremy
We look like Damon Waynes on the.
Dan Le Batard
Top rope of Great White Hype. After this show today. Yes, after the show today.
Jeremy
Tony blocked the shot of it.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
Put my guy out here.
Dan Le Batard
Tony. That was also Jeremy's idea.
Jeremy
I heard that. Great about that. That one went well. My bad on the Catherine o' Hara stuff. If it was all of us talking and we needed to kind of buy some time, it would work great. And my mistake on the whole cable. I saw. Went on and on. I saw number three.
Dan Le Batard
No, it was long.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
I had to stop.
Jeremy
It's 56 seconds.
Dan Le Batard
I just started it midway through.
Jeremy
I know it's a popular show, but this is niche. Not that popular. Not niche. Hold on a second. That was the most popular show in America at a time where everyone was at home watching. The best line was Oli folding the cheese. You could have done like a Fern o' Hara lines. Oh, thank you for he.
Dan Le Batard
He started with quickly. Yeah, I didn't know how. You're in. You're allergic to quick.
Jeremy
I know that he was a star, but I'm pretty sure Catherine o' Hara had more screen time than Michael Kirk Keaton did in Beetlejuice.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's a weird one.
Jeremy
You know, John Wooden said he was Beetlejuice.
Dan Le Batard
He was Beetlejuice.
Jeremy
Came in halfway through the movie.
Dan Le Batard
It's a Michael Keaton vehicle. We have after the show today, we've got. What are the people participating in this? I just lost my voice with the way that I scream there.
Jeremy
So you guys are going to raise hands. Okay. Zaslo, Tony and Jeremy will lead our coverage of the trail because that was tough. You might get sent home. Yeah, it might be just me and Zaz on the post show.
Dan Le Batard
We're gonna stay live is the point. And we haven't mentioned how well Cooper Flagg is playing. This is not a normal thing for a 19 year old.
Jeremy
We should mention how good Cooper Flagg is playing because, like since Jason Kidd went in front of the assembled media and says, I know I've built players in this league before and me and my friend, I know what I'm doing. Cooper's been amazing. He's been incredible. He's on a tear. We were having the conversation just last week that, hey, Cameron Boozer is like quietly being a better freshman for Duke than Cooper Flagg was. I'm like, I'm thinking, is Cooper Flagg just over overrated? Is this a right way to handle this guy? And Jason Kidd showed us. It was the exact day that I did the White Castle hot take thing where I was like, all right, Con Canople has a real shot to be the rookie of the year. That night. Cooper had 49 and he's been on a tear ever since.
Dan Le Batard
So your bet.
Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo
The Castle was almost as bad as.
Jeremy
Z the night that you did it. Cooper had 49.
Dan Le Batard
Barkley's analysis was, I think he's ready after he had 49.
Jeremy
We'll be right back.
Episode: Hour 2: The Awkward Top 5 (feat. Mad Dog Russo & Katie Nolan) | Feb 4, 2026
Broadcast live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this hour of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz is a rollicking blend of sports nostalgia, Radio Row lore, hot sports media takes, and pop culture tributes. Featuring guest appearances from Chris "Mad Dog" Russo and Katie Nolan, the show careens through football history, evolving media landscapes, awkward interviews, and the all-important “Top 5” Catherine O’Hara moments—serving up trademark irreverence and deeply personal insights throughout.
Origins of Radio Row
Evolution & Gripes
Radio Row’s Most Memorable Years
Russo’s Sports Radio Philosophy
Memorable Moment:
Lightning Round with Mad Dog (13:40)
Radio Row Today
Westminster Dog Show Disagreement
Tribute to Catherine O'Hara
Awkward Interviewing Moments
Belichick’s Hall of Fame Snub
Tom Brady as Broadcaster
Media Industry Banter
The episode maintains signature playfulness, quick wit, full-throttle sports geekery, and the show’s well-known blend of irreverence and candor. Russo’s old-school storytelling and Katie Nolan’s breezy but pointed commentary steer the mood from nostalgic to critical, always keeping the conversation lively, unpredictable, and very human.
This summary captures the essential humor, nostalgia, and inside-baseball energy for those who missed the episode, focusing on what matters: story, character, and the joy (and awkwardness) of sports radio at its highest volume.