The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 2: The Axl Rose Debate (feat. Elle Duncan)

Date: March 17, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
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Brief Overview

In this raucous episode, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew are joined by special guest Elle Duncan, now a lead host for Netflix’s MLB coverage. The hour takes on breaking news in the NFL, pop-culture debates (including a deep-in-the-weeds Guns N’ Roses/Axl Rose segment), and Elle’s takes on sports fandom, music generations, and what makes an ‘oldie’ versus a ‘classic’. The conversation is irreverent, spontaneous, and packed with memorable exchanges, including an entertaining lightning round (“L. Yeah or L. Nah”). Key themes are nostalgia in music, the dangers and hopes of Miami sports rebuilds, and the role of spectacle in modern sports.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking NFL News: Jalen Waddle Trade Analysis

Timestamps: 01:13 – 06:00, 39:00 – 42:51

• Elle’s Broncos Fandom:

  • Elle reacts live to the Miami Dolphins trading wide receiver Jalen Waddle to the Broncos for a first, third, and pick swap in the fourth round (01:13).
  • “I dig it. ...At least they’re doing something. I mean, they haven’t been doing. So at least they’re doing something. They’re trying.” – Elle Duncan (03:00)
  • Skepticism over whether Waddle overtakes Sutton, but sees value in adding talented depth.

• Insider Debate:

  • The crew debates whether Denver overpaid and how Miami is initiating a full rebuild (“fumigation of the building”) (04:45–05:18).
  • David Sampson pushes back on “fire sale” language, noting differences between financial motivation and re-stocking for on-field reasons (05:21).

• Miami Dolphins’ Identity Crisis:

  • Elle jokes, “I think most people forget that the Dolphins are a football team.” (05:32)
  • Later, the group questions how fans are supposed to feel given ongoing roster overhauls and the loss of recognizable stars (39:00–41:13).
  • “For 25 years the Dolphins are starting over and you don’t know any of their players.” – David Sampson (42:51)

2. Music Generations Showdown: Guns N’ Roses & The ‘Oldies’ Debate

Timestamps: 08:05 – 23:03

• Guns N’ Roses: Over-the-Hill or Still Rockin’?

  • Greg Cote proudly seeks tickets for a GNR show; Elle expresses total disbelief that they can fill a 3.5-hour set (“I can name, like, two or three songs.” – 08:44).
  • The group playfully bickers over famous tracks, conflating bands (e.g., “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” is mistakenly attributed to GNR, then corrected – 09:22–10:00).
  • “Guns N Roses, Twisted Sister and Motley Crue—put them on a festival...let me get their four or five songs off, and then, like, keep it moving. Three and a half hours is absurd.” – Elle Duncan (10:09)

• Rock & Roll’s Demise:

  • David Sampson claims, “Rock and roll died” when Axl Rose got beat up by Tommy Hilfiger in a NYC club; Adrian Woj recites the full news story as a matter of record (10:29–11:21).

• Oldies vs. Classics in Music: Heated Generational Debate:

  • Prompted by Jay Z’s return, the crew debates whether ‘90s hip-hop is “oldies” or “classics” (19:09–23:03).
  • Elle draws a sharp distinction: “Oldies is a genre in and of itself...classics means yes, it’s no longer current...but you would never identify Outkast as an oldie.” (20:54)
  • Jon Weisman and Mike contend that time alone makes something an “oldie”—“The 90s were four decades ago...that’s like listening to a little ditty from the 50s and being like, ‘ah, listen to this classic.’” (22:34)
  • Elle pushes back: “There is no rap person that can be identified as an oldie.” (21:23)

3. Elle Duncan on Transition to Netflix & The Modern Sports Landscape

Timestamps: 06:02 – 07:35, 31:01 – 32:15

• Colleagues Pitching for Jobs:

  • Elle notes the flood of former coworkers hoping she can connect them to Netflix gigs, despite her brief tenure and lack of hiring power (06:11).
  • “This is like, the only role in Netflix that’s like this.” (06:29)
  • Greg Cote admits to using social tactics to ask for favors (“I waited two days”, 08:00).

• Chemistry with MLB Panelists:

  • Elle will host Opening Day on Netflix alongside Albert Pujols and Anthony Rizzo; looks forward to building chemistry (31:01).
  • “That’s my job as host, to be able to build as much rapport and chemistry as we can…” (31:25)

4. Sports Fandom & Spectacle

Timestamps: 14:27 – 18:19

• World Baseball Classic:
  • Elle celebrates baseball’s international spectacle. “Stunts like this, big events are really interesting for baseball...great for baseball.” (14:38)
  • She expresses divided loyalty between Team USA and Team Venezuela due to favorite Braves player Ronald Acuña Jr.—rooting for good individual performance and general fun over patriotic allegiance (16:13–17:48).

5. “L. Yeah or L. Nah” Rapid Fire

Timestamps: 23:43 – 27:03

• Elle gives quick, candid takes on sports and cultural topics:
  • March Madness brackets: “L. Yeah. It’s fun and it makes games you don’t otherwise care about interesting.” (23:55)
  • Peanuts and Crackerjack: “El. No! That’s an oldies reference. We should update to current ballpark menus.” (24:19)
  • Oscars: “It just depends on the year...this year, bits were so bad, but based on results, I really wanted it for Michael B. Jordan—L. Yeah.” (24:50)
  • Throwing Home Run Balls Back: “Yeah, oh yeah...if it’s the other team, throw it back.” (25:10)
  • Wearing Green on St. Patrick’s Day: “Too much pressure...I’ll take it as an L. No.” (26:16)
  • Adults Bringing Baseball Gloves to Games: “Depends where you’re sitting...a self-defense mechanism if you’re in prime foul ball territory, but don’t need it in the upper rows.” (26:38)

6. WNBA Season Uncertainty & Women’s Voices in Sports

Timestamps: 34:13 – 35:36

• Will There Be a 2026 WNBA Season?

  • Elle is confident it will happen, but expects possible delays due to scheduling and expansion logistics.
  • “I would put my mortgage on the fact that [the WNBA season] will happen.” (34:29)

• Woman’s Authority:

  • Playful banter as the men marvel at Elle’s sources and certainty (“First time a woman’s known around here!” – Jon Weisman, 35:19).
  • Elle wittily concludes, “I love hanging out with you classic men. You’re not oldies. You’re just classic.” (35:36)

7. Miami Marlins, Fire Sales, and Fan Engagement

Timestamps: 36:11 – 39:00

• Extended comparison of Marlins ‘fire sales’ vs. Dolphins’ approach, with much back-and-forth teasing and historical grievances aired.
• Dolphins mishandling of salary cap and dead money leads to existential questions about long-term fan loyalty in a city used to abrupt rebuilds.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Elle Duncan on Broncos trade:
  • “I think we proved last year that even without a quarterback we could have made a Super Bowl...We could have if not for a freakish storm.” (03:00)
• Elle on Netflix coworkers:
  • “This is like, the only role in Netflix that’s like this...Not just people on air—anyone I’ve ever met would like a job at Netflix.” (06:29)
• Elle on the definition of ‘oldies’:
  • “Oldies is a genre in and of itself. Oldies is like the Four Seasons, Motown, the Beatles...classics just means they have aged out.” (20:54)
• David Sampson marking rock’s demise:
  • “Rock and roll died...when Axl Rose got into a fight with Tommy Hilfiger in a hotel lobby.” (10:29)
• Elle calling out ‘adults with gloves’:
  • “It’s literally like a self-defense mechanism. You need to bring a ball glove, period. But if you’re 45 rows up you probably don’t need it.” (26:38)
• Elle’s music zinger:
  • “I love hanging out with you classic men. You’re not oldies. You’re just classic.” (35:36)
• David Sampson on the Dolphins:
  • “For 25 years the dolphins are starting over and you don’t know any of their players.” (42:51)

Additional Timestamps for Reference

• Introduction & Broncos news: 00:00 – 03:42
• Jaylen Waddle / Surtan boxing banter: 03:42 – 04:44
• Guns N’ Roses debate: 08:05 – 11:21
• World Baseball Classic and Netflix MLB gig: 14:27 – 18:19
• Jay Z / Hip Hop ‘oldie’ vs. ‘classic’ debate: 19:09 – 23:03
• Lightning round (L. Yeah or L. Nah): 23:43 – 27:03
• MLB instant replay / automated balls & strikes: 31:01 – 32:54
• WNBA season certainty: 34:13 – 35:36

Tone & Language

Light-hearted, brash, and fast-paced, with classic Dan Le Batard Show irreverence—especially in pop culture and sports nostalgia debates. Elle Duncan shines as a witty, candid guest with plenty of sharp jokes and genuine insight on both media and sports.

For listeners who missed the episode:
Expect a quintessentially chaotic Le Batard hour, blending sports news, music fights, and generational clashes, elevated by Elle Duncan’s quick wit and charm. The podcast oscillates between big-picture sports change (Miami’s endless reboots, the rise of spectacle in MLB) and playful, biting nostalgia for both music and fandom’s glory days.