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Dan Le Batard
The Dan Levator show with the Stu Guts Podcast.
Roy Wood Jr.
This man is always doing a lot of exceptional work. Lonely Flowers is his special. It's on Hulu. It's a hit. You should watch it. A lot of people are saying it's perfect that he and Bill Burr have the best comedy specials going at the moment. He also has a fun show, a news show. Have I Got News for you on CNN and Ma. And now he's doing Celebrity Jeopardy, and he's sitting courtside at a Knicks game with his idol, Tom Joyner. So there's a lot to talk to him about. Also, he's sitting opposite a very bitter grandpa, Shaq, as he just takes out everyone in the league for some reason by just sitting across from Roy. And then all of a sudden, Shaq is just crucifying everybody. So you sat there, Roy Wood Jr. Across from Shaq, and you thought, what? As he let everyone in the league have it for some reason, when you sat down opposite him.
Dan Le Batard
Here's the crazy thing about my episode on Shaq's podcast. That was the last 10 minutes of the podcast. We talked about everything but basketball for an hour, and then just at the end, hey, do you think Biggs will evolve? I'll elbow Wimby in the mouth and knock his teeth out and make him quit. And I was like, hey, he played. I didn't. I just need to be quiet on this one. Like, I'm not sure if I completely agree, but this is not the place to disagree. I'll just put it that way. Like, you know, Shaq earned the right to take these shots. I don't know why he does it all the time. I will say that. But, you know, it was. It was fun to sit with him in his element, but you could tell just being right across from him, that he really is annoyed with the way the game is being played currently.
Roy Wood Jr.
I think that you probably. I don't know how many times you've been around Shaq, but this happens all the time around Shaq.
Dan Le Batard
That's my first time meeting him.
Roy Wood Jr.
Okay, so did you do what everyone does about Shaq? Because, you know, going in, there's a thing, you know about Shaq that he's giant. And yet still, when people get next to him, they're like, God, he's big. Like, you know it going in, and you still don't. You don't really actually know it.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, no, it was. It was. It was cool to just talk basketball with him for a second. But the way my. My question that I didn't get to in a room with them would have been like, everybody wants 90s basketball, but if you. 90s basketball without 90s referees, you're still like, shaq will be teed up and tossed before the second quarter. If you talk about elbow and Wimby in the mouth and then taking Chet Holmgren to the hole every time. Like, I don't know if we're gonna ever be able to play like that again. Like, I wonder if aggression to a degree has been kind of legislated out, you know, into everybody else's point on that podcast. You know, these kids now, like, there's no benefit to being the murderous killer death stare college basketball player anymore. That's going to mess up your NIL money. Nobody's going to let you do Experian tax app commercials if you're the mean growling person. So I don't know if that mentality will even exist in basketball at the lower levels in another five years. Man.
Roy Wood Jr.
Greg Cody has alleged here, and we haven't even gotten to this today, that Florida has ruined college basketball and the transfer. That the transfer portal has ruined college basketball.
Greg Cody
Well, yeah, not Florida. I mean, Florida is merely taking advantage of what the NCAA has allowed. But do you agree? I mean, we've had more than 2,000 transfers just in this window. And I was, I was afraid that.
Roy Wood Jr.
Was going to happen when all the little hiccup. I was afraid that was going to happen. He was coughing as I was going and I saw on his face that he was about to try to fight. He was trying to muffle the cough and it would. It just became clear that he was not going to win that.
Greg Cody
Okay, I want to ask Roy. Much as it benefits the good teams, the rich get richer now because of the transfer portal, but it's been bad for the sport, I think, because it's just, it's chaotic now. You, you had players transferring from teams that made the Sweet 16 this year during the tournament. It just seems ridiculous to me.
Dan Le Batard
I think, I think, I don't know how you salary cap it, per se, but I think that there's a very good way to keep this down. I think it was Carmelo Anthony on his podcast that said two year minimums, but, you know, he was. Mello was also talking about just take the student part out of it and let these schools hire basically athletic mercenaries to play for them to represent the school. I do think that's the eventuality of where NIL is headed in another 10 years if we don't rein it in. But the idea of locking a student in for at least two years if you transfer, I think it's something that's fair. I don't think we're never going to go back to the old days. So this idea of Mount St. Mary's punching up and beating Kentucky, done that stuff's gone. Mount St. Mary's got to get their money up and figure out how to sell cocaine on the side of the university. I do feel like you have to keep the money in the sport that's fair to the kids. What's happening with Nil is that it's all of the outside cash and all of the outside influences that are changing all of this. When you got kids hawking Carter, Here's a bigger question about nil. Has anybody been influenced to buy anything from any of these children you've seen on tv? I'm not. I'm not here to mess up your bag. But seeing Flauje Johnson tell me I can get my credit straight. I know my credit bad flage. Get your money, girl. But also you weren't going to influence me any more than the next person was to buy the thing. Nine times out of ten is word of mouth. So I don't. I think that college hoops is going to become D1 and D2 in a sense where you're going to have, have and have nots. And that's just what you got to get used to. And you just got to hope that one school has a loyal dummy who doesn't transfer because his daddy went there or something stupid.
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on the poll, please. At lebatard show. Does Mount St. Mary need to sell cocaine on the side to keep up in the NIL game? At Le Batard Show Celebrity Jeopardy here. How do you prepare for it? How scared were you or not scared were you?
Dan Le Batard
We got the semifinals tonight. I won last month. It's. It's fine. Because you're raising money. I'm raising money for. I see Me Incorporated, a non Proficiency, a nonprofit in Birmingham that promotes literacy in children. If you can read, you don't go to jail. They got the statistics to prove it. So you're excited because you're helping people, but you also don't want to be the one that's embarrassed. I can't say. I can't say whether or not I won or not tonight. But there was a question I got wrong that was extremely easy. That I know tomorrow morning my social media mentions are going to. It's going to be some chit chat and accountability that's going to be needed for me for getting that particular question wrong. You can't prepare for it. Either you're dumb or you're not. And it's too late to cram. Like, what are you gonna do? Learn all the solar system moons of Jupiter before you get out there in front of Ken Jennings? And I tried to cram because I know my soft spots. Greek and Roman mythology. Because there's no reason for us to ever learn that in the first place. I'm not good with Shakespeare, I'm not good with the Bible, and I'm shaky on US Vice presidents. Like when you get into Spiro Agnew, heads of chief of staffs and who was the eighth dude on the Watergate tape, that type of stuff, they don't.
Roy Wood Jr.
Do that to the celebrities. It's always easier for the celebrities.
Dan Le Batard
I know, and that's why I feel confident now. All I need to know is like what a raccoon is and recognize two statues because it's a lot of stupid celebrities. There really should be like, you want to talk about tier one, Tier two, there should be smart Celebrity Jeopardy. And then dummy Celebrity Jeopardy.
Roy Wood Jr.
I want to ask you some follow up questions without getting you in trouble about your future embarrassment tomorrow. Surely, contractually you could give us some hints about why and how you're embarrassed without betraying Celebrity Jeopardy.
Dan Le Batard
I don't, I don't know if I can give away category can I give away? I'll say this, I don't think you can. I need to know, I need to know more geography. I'll just say that. And the thing about Jeopardy. Jeopardy. Tricks you because it's how they word the question and the amount of time you have to answer it and the pressure of it forces you to say something stupid. And it's not that you don't know it, it's that the way you worded the question confused me. Like, it's like when you, I don't know, you remember, Dan? Remember? You come home late three in the morning and your girl is like, so you were with the strippers and you're like, what is it?
Mike Ryan
Ah.
Dan Le Batard
So you were like, no, you didn't give me a chance to. It's too late. You should have just said, were you at strip club? Yes or no. But they don't frame the question that way. They frame it in a way where your brain can't process it and then you look dumb and then strangers heckle you.
Roy Wood Jr.
I'll choke. In those circumstances, because you're not wrong that the pressure will get to you. You will know an answer and you will freeze up.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah. But you know, it's, it's fine. I, I, I was happy to do it. I had more fun at Jeopardy. Than I did Will of Fortune or Pyramid. No, I have Jeopardy. I had the most fun at Jeopardy. Cause Will of Fortune, you're just setting up the next person to win and it's luck. You gotta hope they screw up. And then you get to solve the puzzle. It's got to kind of fall in your lap pyramid. If you lose, you're sitting across from the stranger who you cost 50k, and they're a little mad. And, you know, like that. That I feel kind of bad about because that's not for charity. That's like a regular person who needs that money. So I didn't like the pressure of that.
Roy Wood Jr.
Is anything that you crammed for, did any single thing help you?
Dan Le Batard
No. But in the first round, they had historically black colleges as one of the categories. Oh, brother. I was licking my chops.
Roy Wood Jr.
It was Rosie Perez and White man can't Jump. All the questions were coming up that she said, you must have been so happy, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
It'd be like if you were on Celebrity Jeopardy. In the category was Cuban stuff. Just a layup. Just, oh, my God, it was beautiful. Then the next category was chess. And all I do is play chess with my son. And I was just like, yes, I ran that. Damn. I ran those two categories back to back. Start doubling and tripling down and Double Jeopardy. And that's how I won, man. Because I went to a black college. Both of my parents graduated from a black college. If I don't get these questions right, I have to leave the black race immediately.
Roy Wood Jr.
Did you look to your right and your left and have any other black people, or were you like, was that Phoebe Robinson?
Dan Le Batard
Phoebe Robinson was there, too. And Phoebe got one of them right, too. And I was like, good, make sure you get one right, too so that they know you know something. You know, you gotta let Phoebe get one, too. So you gave her one, right, Roy? I don't know if there's any other race of people that are under more pressure on a queer show than black people to be accountable to their own race when it is a topic inherent to their race. Like, as a black man on Jeopardy. Answering questions about black colleges, I like, I'll be an article in Essence magazine. Like, they will slander. So I don't. I don't know. I don't know if any other race has that type of. Like, if you're an Italian and the category is tomato sauces. Like, is that pressure? I don't know. That felt racist. But you get what I'm trying to say.
Roy Wood Jr.
It does seem like pressure, but also something that you were excited by. If one of your team captains from have I got news for you. Amber Ruffin, she was supposed to do the White House correspondence dinner, and they announced that they pulled the offer. Have you talked to her about this and what do you say to her and what happened there?
Dan Le Batard
We made a mention on it on the most recent episode. And what Amber said on our show was essentially that she intended to go at both sides. But as the country started to devolve, she felt like it was hard to ignore people getting sent to El Salvador and the recession and the measles outbreak. She just felt like there were so many things going on that. To oscillate both ways. She had no interest in doing that anymore. She wanted to laser focus on the administration and the correspondence. People, you know, they said, well, we. We can't have you do that. And once that was clear and in the open, Amber said that she just would respectfully pull out of it. Because I think the thing, you know, everybody calls the press corps, you know, cowards for their decision to not have a comedian there, to not hit both sides. But I really feel like, in a way, they're in a rock and a hard place. Is it a sucker decision? Yeah, I think so. But I also think that what's not being considered is the potential backlash on the backside from the Trump administration to the White House pool. Reporters who are there who were supposed to be honoring and celebrating. They're probably going to lose access potentially. If you dare hold this event where they trash me, I'm going to give you less access to me on the backside of that. And then this whole idea of accountability and calling out what's going on. How much are you compromising your ability as a journalist to hold this administration accountable for the next three and a half years? If you let Amber get up there and tell them jokes and you don't know that. And so that's the juggling act that I think they were weighing. I hate that comedy was removed, because comedy is the way that you get people to pay attention to all of the other stuff that you want honored and celebrated on that day. But, you know, the event, at its core, it is about honoring journalism. So I just hope that we're able to still bring some attention to the people. But, you know, I stand with Amber. I support my co hosts, you know, a million percent over. But that's just a. It's a rock and a hard place right now. And it's funny because, you know, I always thought Republicans were the ones that could take a joke. But you.
Roy Wood Jr.
You hosted that event, though, so what was your level of disappointment and her level of disappointment? Because, you know, what a. That that event's a giant event for a comedian.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. But keep in mind, I did the event under Biden, so that was a little bit, bit easier in terms of is this a room that's ready to laugh and can you attack both sides? Yeah, I could. I mean, there were still kids in cages, but other than that, you can still find the laughs around the chaos in that administration. There was, it's, it's, it's a, it's a room where at best, you're only going to get half the room at any given time because the other half can't laugh because they don't think you're funny or they're sitting with their boss that you made the joke about. So it's, it's already a weird room to begin with. And I think also if, I think part of why the correspondence dinner works is because Republicans and elected officials all show up from both sides. So also keep in mind, when Amber stepped out, when they, when they rescinded the offer from Amber, Trump was talking about doing his own competing event the same night. So if you have no Republicans in the room and you have someone on stage that's only bashing Republicans, then they're going to be able to flip and use that politically to do whatever they want to, you know, control the narrative about what the media, the messaging in media. So, you know, it's a, it's a slippery thing, man. So how do you do both sides if both sides aren't even in the room? You know that, that kind of removes the roast, the roast element of it requires you to be here because I have to do this to your face.
Roy Wood Jr.
Put us next to you at the Knicks game where you're courtside with your idol, Tom Joyner or one of your idols. What was happening here? Where does this rank in terms of hon and privileges that you have gotten as a perk in your career?
Dan Le Batard
I grew up on the school bus listening to the Tom Joyner morning show. And you know, for what Tom Joyner did over his 30 years in syndicated radio, just taking money from his foundation, putting kids through college, I think when he retired in 2016, 2017, I think the number was like 30 or 40,000. Like you could take every person that received money for college from Tom Joyner and fill a professional sports stadium with like to be able to just sit next to him. Never got a chance to work with them, but to just sit and listen to stories of his time and Tuskegee on the radio to his time and every wild story from his world famous Tom Joyner cruises, which is how he raises the money for his foundation that was I mean, next to catching a game with my father, which I'll never be able to do, it was really dope, man. It really was.
Roy Wood Jr.
Did you have any idea that that's the outfit that he would wear? And did you have any commentary about the outfit that he was wearing?
Dan Le Batard
Being that that floral sweatsuit, I'm sure costs more than my salary at CNN? I will simply say, nice outfit, Mr. Joyner. That's all I will say. Like, there's certain outfits where it looks so. It just looks so expensive. You can't even say nothing about it. You just go, I would never wear it. But it's a great Bruce. Bruce would say it looks good on you.
Stugots
But what were you thinking? I mean, I know what you had to say, but what were you thinking?
Roy Wood Jr.
Roy, he just told us.
Dan Le Batard
Damn, that's. I feel like a lot of flowers. Tom Flowers.
Roy Wood Jr.
Lonely Flowers is the name of his Hulu special.
Sponsor Intuit
Roy, I have a question for you. So we were talking about you courtside at the Knicks game. Tracy Morgan recently returned to sitting courtside. The last time he was there, he threw up all over the court. He had to be taken out. He had a medical issue. If you threw up all over the court, how long would it take for you to feel comfortable in going back to sitting courtside?
Dan Le Batard
I don't know if I returned that season. I don't know if I return at all that season. But Tracy Morgan is like the unofficial mascot of the Knicks. Like, it's. It's Tracy and Spike Lee, I guess, to a degree. So you got to have both of them back at the game. I'm just glad that when it happened with Tracy, like, immediately there was caring concern about him and his health and making sure he's recovering. Cause we weren't always like that as a society. Like, if you had a public health episode, we would just say crack. We would just assume crack and just say, you're a crackhead and he's a drunk. And I feel like we finally progress as a society to a point where we can just guess. Maybe it's Ozempic.
Amber Ruffin
What if you had to go, though? If you were a Knicks fan? What if you had to go in order for them to win and you had to throw up every time? Because when he said he was like, oh, I had food poisoning, but the Knicks are one to know when I throw up on the court now, how many times would you go back and keep doing it?
Dan Le Batard
You know what I thought for sure? I thought for sure they were going to take, like, his vomit and put it in like little souvenir vials. Yeah, you have to like call that like the vomit game. I was checking the stats to see what the Knicks record was vomit, but it's not solid enough to directly point to the vomit being a catalyst for them getting things, getting momentum going into the playoffs. I think if the Knicks had to. Tracy Morgan had to vomit every home game for the Knicks to win, I think he would happily come out there and ruin his stomach lining for the team.
Amber Ruffin
It's like the Grimace Mets, but way worse.
Dan Le Batard
He is built like Grimace. I love you, Tracy.
Sponsor Intuit
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Roy Wood Jr.
I want some honesty from you on this. While you were talking, Chris Cody said to me, he's like, never has there been a larger gulf between 1a and 1 bike Lee and Tracy Morgan. I feel like what happened to you is you said Tracy Morgan and then you remembered Spike Lee and you're like, ah, I made. I made the mistake of making Tracy the mascot.
Stugots
Yes.
Dan Le Batard
Here's the thing. You get on this show and talk and then I'm just thinking of what the comments be. What about Spike? How you forget Spike Lee? You ain't black. That's why when you was on Jeopardy, you missed that question about geography. Man, I hate black people. And then it's then I'm in an Essence magazine article and then it just go, oh, and the Griot is talking about me going, roy Wood disrespect Spike Lee. And then it's all awkward.
Roy Wood Jr.
Well, I also think that you're racist because you put Trace Tracy Morgan ahead of Ben Stiller.
Dan Le Batard
Ben Stiller don't even stand up during the game. He can't be the mascot. He's a super fan. I'll give Ben Stiller credit because he was checking the score at award shows. So that's a die hard fan. But Ben Stiller ain't standing up like Spike Lee with his hand on his hips like a black mama on the porch looking for her child. Show me that picture and I'll correct myself.
Roy Wood Jr.
Wow. Doubling.
Dan Le Batard
You remember when Spike was standing like this? My camera's house. You know the picture. It's the legendary Spike picture. Yeah. Show me Ben Stiller like that and I'll say, Ben still is the mascot of the Knicks. Until then, it's Spike lee, Tracy Morgan, 1B.
Roy Wood Jr.
Do you have a signature semi sure bet of the week for us or do we have to wait until next time?
Dan Le Batard
Let's wait until next time. I will say that I like what the Cubs have been doing in Spite of their record, there are. There are a couple games above.500. It's a little early, but they're third in the league, league and run scored per average right now. And I think that they're doing that without the torpedo bats. Like, if I'm not mistaken, the Cubs. Yeah, there we go. The Cubs got 84 runs. Let's see. Most run score, not average. Most runs scored, Yankees 78, Cardinals 66. So the Cubs are hitting the ball good. You just need the pitching to come together a little bit. So just put your money, put your money on them right now.
Roy Wood Jr.
All right? So it'll have to wait till next time, but you gave us a little. A little. A little sweetener. You gave us lonely flowers is streaming now on Hulu. Have I got news for you. You should watch it. It's CNN and Max. It's streaming the next day on Max. After it's on CNN, you should go to Roy Wood, roywood junior.com for his latest tour dates and information. Thank you, sir. It's always good seeing you.
Dan Le Batard
Love y'all.
Stugots
Thank you, Roy.
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Roy Wood Jr.
You don't remember the idea?
Mike Ryan
I was probably like that kind of thing. Something.
Greg Cody
Okay, no, the home run call was that kind of swing. That kind of thing.
Roy Wood Jr.
Stugats.
Sponsor Intuit
Oh, it's a good call.
Greg Cody
Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like you're not Tailoring it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz, you know, you don't got to do that. Oh, that would be a great call.
Dan Le Batard
Swing.
Greg Cody
That kind of thing.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stuff.
Roy Wood Jr.
I want to get to a couple of sounds here real quick. I am told that we have a Gas Bag of the Week, and I'm very excited for the return of Gas Bag of the Week. And it needs some context here. Stugats. Because you love your New York sports radio. And Jameis Winston did a fair, benign thing of thanking Cleveland for his time there.
Mike Ryan
So the Giants currently have Russell Wilson and Jameis on their roster, and Jameis, weeks after being signed with the Giants, decided, I'm going to thank Cleveland. He wrote a nice letter. The part that people got a little up in arms about, he. He says, one moment. I'll never forget beating the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday Night Football in what turned out to be the most iconic snow game in NFL history. The energy, the emotion, the unity. We all felt it that night. That night in Cleveland was Cleveland at its finest. That is just a harmless paragraph.
Dan Le Batard
Is it?
Mike Ryan
Is it benign? It's a disrespecting NFL history.
So now Giants one snow game, Giants radio. I think it's Evan and Tiki in New York. They have a producer, Sean Marash. They let the producers talk. That's crazy. Sean Mirash, a producer for that show, was not happy with Jameis Winston for that letter.
J
If you like the idea that Jameis Winston makes you laugh and do all that's all good and polite, funny. Jameis Winston stinks, okay? And I've been adamant about this. The idea that now you know the situation. He could have penned this other Cleveland for the Yankees. The Giants even signed Russell Wilson.
Dan Le Batard
He's so good, man.
J
He puts it in there because he knows anybody reading that is good, there's gonna be light bulbs that go off in people's heads that he beat Russell Wilson head to head, all while lying and calling it the most iconic game. So now here we go. You already start to divide a fan base a little bit. And like you said, what was the lead yesterday? The lead on this show yesterday was Evan Roberts turning the Tiki Barber, saying, is there a chance of locker room rallies around Jameis Winston? This guy is an unintentional cancer. Cut him today.
Greg Cody
Oh, come on.
J
Cut him today. He's not better than Russell Wilson. The team should be taking a quarterback in the draft, and Tommy DeVito still exists. Why is he here? He's here to throw Interceptions and God rescue us from pick sixes. I'm glad everybody thinks the Giants could be the chuckle hut. I'm tired of being a joke. And Jameis Winston is causing this team to be more of a goddamn joke.
Stugots
20 share.
Dan Le Batard
I think that's a good take of the week.
Roy Wood Jr.
And Tommy DeVito still exists.
Mike Ryan
That was a sentence.
I can't believe you can say goddamn on that show.
Stugots
Yeah, it's crazy.
Mike Ryan
On fan. That's great. Let's know in your audience, I do.
Stugots
Think Jameis Winston, if he's on your team, he annoys you. If he's not on your team, you love him. I do. I believe that, yes. I mean, he's not that good.
Mike Ryan
He's on it.
Amber Ruffin
I can also see the opposite.
Roy Wood Jr.
Yes, I think you can.
J
I think these very easily.
Roy Wood Jr.
So many interceptions. I don't think that Stug has the accurate appraisal here on what James Winston experience is. You can only love Jameis Winston if he's not on your team.
Mike Ryan
He's never been on my team. But one thing that I usually don't like out of my quarterbacks are like loads of intercepts.
Roy Wood Jr.
30 intercepts.
Mike Ryan
That's a good way to lose me.
Roy Wood Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Cody
And fumbles.
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Has an NFL quarterback ever had the personality to overcome 30 interceptions in a season? Because Jameis is trying. He's closer than most in both categories. Because I can you guys find me. Because football has changed so much. So I don't know if Dan Fouts had a 30 interception season, although. But just the. The idea that in the age where Aaron Rodgers perfected the idea of the quarterback cannot turn the ball over. To have a quarterback who had 30 interceptions in a season in that age is totally insane. It's the kind of reckless that is is. Is just absurd.
Stugots
The most Fouts had in a single season was 24. 24 interceptions.
Amber Ruffin
Most of the. I guess like the top 10 of this list of most interceptions are pre NFL merger. Like there. There's some from the 80s, but a lot of George Blanda, 42 in one season.
Greg Cody
Wow.
Mike Ryan
Good contribution.
Roy Wood Jr.
That is.
Greg Cody
Vinnie Testaverde, 35. Vinnie the T. U M. Go Canes.
Amber Ruffin
Frank Topeka.
Roy Wood Jr.
Vinnie the T. Yes.
Amber Ruffin
Your era, Greg.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I covered him.
Roy Wood Jr.
George Blanda also his era.
Greg Cody
Well, not that.
Amber Ruffin
Sid Luckman. Your era.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Sid Luckman. Sid the L. Exactly.
Roy Wood Jr.
Otto Graham. O the G. O G. You saw.
Mike Ryan
That the NFL has to acknowledge. Well, they made a ruling that they're gonna acknowledge the 1940s. And so now Tom Brady is tied in rings with Otto Graham.
Stugots
Really?
Mike Ryan
Yeah. Overnight, the Browns became.
Amber Ruffin
Good call.
Mike Ryan
Overnight, the Browns became, like the third most winningest franchise is in NFL history.
Roy Wood Jr.
Greg, do you know who Ron Burgundy is?
Greg Cody
Yes. The broadcaster from the movies.
Mike Ryan
Go on, keep going.
Roy Wood Jr.
Played by.
Sponsor Intuit
When it's so good, you don't know the actor. You know, you just know the character.
Mike Ryan
He truly transformed himself into Ron Burgundy.
Greg Cody
Yeah. The SNL guy, Tracy Morgan.
Roy Wood Jr.
When I say the SNL guy, When I say to you that Kevin Harlan, one of the greatest broadcasters, had a Ron Burgundy moment. And the only reason I quizzed you on this is because you're famously not someone who knows about movies. On the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody, you do a segment in which you talk about how little you know about movies and your sons make fun of you. So when I say that Kevin Harlan had a Ron Burgundy moment, do you know what I mean?
Greg Cody
I don't. No. And I've seen that movie and I enjoyed it, but I don't know that there's a moment associated with the Burgundy character.
Roy Wood Jr.
So Ron Burgundy was obviously famously dumb, angry anchorman, and he read the teleprompter. Just read it without actually absorbing Stugats does some of this without retaining the words. And so what he did, obviously, was spectacularly broadcaster wrong, because they put something in the prompter that was meant to embarrass him, and he just read it.
Amber Ruffin
Stugats did this in the last segment with Weekend Observations when he read a top five list that he thought he was going to be reading on Tuesday that had Roy in it and could not edit it on the spot.
Dan Le Batard
Right.
Amber Ruffin
To take Roy out and put me into it.
Dan Le Batard
Yep.
Stugots
You were still number two on Tuesday. I'm telling.
Amber Ruffin
Who was the actual number two?
Stugots
Me.
Amber Ruffin
Also Dan. Not on this list. Okay.
Greg Cody
Oh, oops.
Roy Wood Jr.
Yeah, that's okay.
Greg Cody
I was happy to be.
Stugots
You're great at what you do, though.
Greg Cody
I'm honored.
Stugots
You're welcome.
Greg Cody
Career highlight.
Roy Wood Jr.
You guys have been congratulating each other here recently because you just informed Stugats that he was number eight on the list of little upset.
Stugots
I gotta be honest.
Roy Wood Jr.
Best hundred guests you've ever had.
Greg Cody
Yeah. My top 100 guests. Dan, unfortunately, just missed the top 10.
Roy Wood Jr.
We.
Mike Ryan
We mentioned earlier, Zach Thomas, he's number 68 on Greg Cody show top 100 guests all time, just ahead of Billy Gill at 69.
Amber Ruffin
But if his name was Zach Erlacher, I think he'd be top 30.
Greg Cody
You know what? You got that right.
Dan Le Batard
That's true.
Greg Cody
That's true. He or as in Erlach or magic.
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on the poll, please. At Levitard show. Would Zach Thomas be more highly regarded if his name was Zach Erlacher at Levitard show? But here is so Kevin Harlan's exceptional at what he does. But here is his Ron Burgundy moment.
Dan Le Batard
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Roy Wood Jr.
Are there tenders in the car? Cuz if there is, you're in.
Dan Le Batard
We just had the marriage of two different sponsors and it was ugly. Who wrote that?
Stugots
Only you can laugh about it.
Dan Le Batard
Well, that just goes to show you, I literally will read anything they put in front of me without even looking like, holy cow.
Roy Wood Jr.
Speaking of which, in honor of our 20th anniversary here in some way back sound, see if you can find Chris. Just go ahead and search cowboy hat made of bacon so that you can see the time that we tried by just putting a read in front of him that he shouldn't have been reading to see how long it would take before he would stop reading and just say, what am I reading?
Stugots
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Amber Ruffin
Alligator wrestling for kids. Kind of believable in Florida.
Stugots
Alligator wrestling for the kids. And the huge fun zone is brought.
Dan Le Batard
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Mike Ryan
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Hour 2: The Cowboy Hat Made of Bacon (feat. Roy Wood Jr.)
Release Date: April 9, 2025
In this engaging episode, host Dan Le Batard teams up with comedian and correspondent Roy Wood Jr. to delve into a variety of topics ranging from sports personalities to the evolving landscape of college basketball. The conversation is rich with humor, insightful commentary, and candid reflections, making it a must-listen for fans who seek both entertainment and depth.
The episode kicks off with Roy Wood Jr. praising Dan’s recent episode featuring Shaquille O'Neal, highlighting the dynamic interaction between them.
Roy Wood Jr. discusses Shaq's outspoken nature:
"Shaq is just crucifying everybody. So you sat there, Roy Wood Jr. across from Shaq, and you thought, what?"
[02:09]
Dan Le Batard shares his experience on Shaq’s podcast, noting Shaq's frustration with the current state of basketball:
"Shaq earned the right to take these shots. I don't know why he does it all the time. But you could tell that he really is annoyed with the way the game is being played currently."
[03:52]
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the transfer portal's disruptive impact on college basketball. Greg Cody voices concerns about the chaotic nature introduced by over 2,000 transfers in a single window.
Greg Cody states:
"The transfer portal has ruined college basketball. It's chaotic now. Players transferring from teams that made the Sweet 16 just seems ridiculous to me."
[05:18]
Dan Le Batard offers his perspective on NCAA regulations and NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) implications:
"The idea of locking a student in for at least two years if you transfer is something that's fair. But the mentality is going to change basketball at the lower levels in another five years."
[07:18]
He further elaborates on NIL's influence:
"What's happening with NIL is that it's all outside cash and influences changing all of this. College hoops is going to become D1 and D2 in the sense where you're going to have have and have nots."
[07:53]
Dan recounts his participation in Celebrity Jeopardy, shedding light on the unique pressures faced by black participants in predominantly white settings.
Dan Le Batard reflects on the challenges:
"There was a question I got wrong that was extremely easy. Tomorrow morning my social media mentions are going to be some chit-chat and accountability for getting that particular question wrong."
[08:16]
He discusses the racial dynamics of certain categories:
"If you're a black man on Jeopardy answering questions about black colleges, that's a lot of pressure."
[12:03]
Roy Wood Jr. adds:
"Do you have any other black people, or were you like, was that Phoebe Robinson?"
[12:47]
Dan Le Batard further comments on the experience:
"You get questions framed in a way where your brain can't process it and then you look dumb."
[10:43]
The conversation shifts to the complexities of hosting events that balance humor and political commentary, specifically referencing Amber Ruffin's withdrawal from a White House correspondence dinner.
Dan Le Batard explains Amber's decision:
"She felt like there were so many things going on that she had to respectfully pull out of it."
[14:05]
He highlights the delicate balance between comedy and political accountability:
"Comedy is the way that you get people to pay attention to all of the other stuff that you want honored and celebrated on that day."
[15:18]
Dan shares his admiration for Tom Joyner, reflecting on the privilege of sitting courtside with his idol and the impact Joyner has had on his life.
Dan Le Batard expresses his admiration:
"I grew up on the school bus listening to the Tom Joyner morning show. Sitting next to him was really dope, man."
[17:53]
When discussing Joyner’s attire at the Knicks game, Dan humorously praises the outfit:
"Being that floral sweatsuit, I'm sure costs more than my salary at CNN. Nice outfit, Mr. Joyner."
[18:54]
Throughout the episode, Roy Wood Jr. and Dan engage in humorous exchanges, including playful jabs about each other's knowledge and experiences. These moments provide levity and showcase the hosts' chemistry.
Roy Wood Jr. jokes about Dan's memory:
"You don't remember the idea?"
[27:27]
Dan Le Batard responds with self-deprecation:
"You made the mistake of making Tracy the mascot.
[22:28]
The hosts encourage listener interaction through polls, inviting the audience to weigh in on topics discussed, such as Shaq's influence and the future of college basketball.
Roy Wood Jr. prompts listener participation:
"Put it on the poll, please. At Le Batard Show."
[08:02]
Conclusion:
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a blend of sports commentary, societal reflections, and personal anecdotes, all delivered with characteristic humor and insight. From dissecting the challenges posed by the transfer portal in college basketball to sharing personal experiences on national game shows, Dan and Roy provide listeners with both thought-provoking discussions and entertaining banter.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the multifaceted discussions of the episode, ensuring that listeners—both new and returning—gain a clear understanding of the topics covered and the insights shared by Dan Le Batard and Roy Wood Jr.