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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Greatest Of All The Nuts (feat. Roy Wood Jr.)
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- [00:02]
Dan Le Batard
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- [00:12]
Stugatz
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- [01:27]
Billy Corben
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- [02:06]
Roy Wood Jr.
Stugatz is down and out. He's gotten sick. This is a bad time to get sick. He's about to dominate Radio Row. Billy, are you ready for Radio Row? Because it is a bit of a crazed, manic, sprawling tapestry of nonsense that that you guys, you go to the super bowl, you're rigorous. You are buttoned up as a producer. All you need is reliability from Stugatz. It's impossible he will not give you Reliability. And now he's sick.
- [02:31]
Billy Corben
Well, I mean, the good thing is it's the most reliable he is, many are saying, so. I'm looking forward to that. I don't know what the hell he's doing. He's sick, but he's just kind of wandering about the office, pulling people aside, having side conversations. I look out there, he's talking to Carl and the cowboys, trying to piece together exactly what's going on with him, because he was quite sick in there, but nary a sneeze outside. Once I see him kind of rubbing elbows, talking about brand deals with Cynthia.
- [02:59]
Jessica
And the like, I wonder if his form will say separated or married or what on it.
- [03:03]
Roy Wood Jr.
He likes to be chummy, man. That's why this is his nirvana. This is why it's a promised land. He just likes to slap people on the back, feel important, be important, you know? And God bless him. God bless football. That's what Meadowlark supports. Roy Wood Jr. I will tell you, you and Lonely Flowers. It's a new standup he's got on Hulu. It is getting great reviews. I don't know if he reads his reviews. He's wildly talented. Standup. And your reviews here, you have felt. How about them? Have you been reading these things? Because you're getting a lot of applause for being able to reinvent yourself here during the political, you know, after leaving the Daily show and having a business. That's you alone, man.
- [03:47]
Amin Elhassan
Thank you, brother. I do read them, especially the stuff on Reddit. It's two places in comments I respect Reddit and YouTube because those people got time. Like, it's not the quick Twitter nonsense. It's gonna be a deep dive into why you suck. And somewhere in there might be a very justified critique. So I'm okay with that. Love it or hate it, it's out there. Hulu gave me my money, the check cleared. I don't care.
- [04:15]
Roy Wood Jr.
How do you feel about it, though? You say you don't care, but these things require a great deal of care. When you do a special, it's supposed to be special. It's the height of your craft, is it not? You value it more than the other work you do.
- [04:26]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, because it's just me. Nobody can give me notes on it or anything like that. And, I mean, I just want. It's weird. I didn't write the special to talk about loneliness, but the more I wrote, the more I realized all these jokes are just about, we're alone, bro. We need to join a book club or a sex party. We need to connect again. And that's where the thoughts just started flowing from. So I didn't really even delve. Surprisingly. I didn't really get into politics. Like, I had Kamala and Trump jokes when I first started out, but by the time it was time to tape in D.C. i was like, eh, eh.
- [05:02]
Roy Wood Jr.
Oh, oh, but you're a smart businessman, and writing about loneliness is such a great place to connect right now. Roy, what's changed over the last four years is kind of crazy. People have been alone with themselves and gotten uncomfortable with that. Alone with themselves because it makes them look at things that are like, whoa, I didn't know that was so.
- [05:23]
Amin Elhassan
You know what part of it was to me is that something as simple as the rise of Uber eats and not leaving your house to go get better food. Because, like, delivery used to be what, pizza, sandwich, wings. That was it. Now you can get a whole, like, conversation food. You can have delivered sushi, Take your ass out the house to go get that T bone steak coming to your house. I used to work shout out to Stakeout. It was a 90s establishment in the down south that delivered steaks, solely steaks to the rich side of town. Like, that was such an elitist thing. Now anybody can have a damn ribeye at their crib. You supposed to go to the store, get bad service, have a conversation, and bond with people. And, like, I just think, man, the death of retail was the death of communication.
- [06:11]
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on the poll. Was the death of retail the death of communication at lebatard show.
- [06:17]
Jessica
Stakeout is still in business.
- [06:18]
Roy Wood Jr.
Stakeout is a Richard Dreyfuss. It's a Richard Dreyfuss movie. Like, Stakeout is a movie. Stakeout is a movie I'd watch if Roy Wood was in it. A buddy cop movie.
- [06:30]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, dude, I just think, like, think about retail, bro. Retail was the last spot where you would talk with a stranger. Either that or if you showed up to the game early and there's somebody close to you in one of your seats where you're sitting. Otherwise, when do. When do you just voluntarily talk to people anymore? Well, it's impossible to know where people are going.
- [06:51]
Roy Wood Jr.
Jeremy is aggressive about meeting people.
- [06:53]
Stugatz
Oh, yeah, I'll go to the mall and just walk around for a stroll and go into stores just to kind of talk to people. I'll buy something for no reason, just so I can talk to people that aren't in this office. Because, I mean, I used to people.
- [07:07]
Amin Elhassan
In here when I used to work at Golden Corral, there were people like you, who would come in and just eat alone just to talk to the server, which you could do back in 98, but now your server has eight tables and she's understaffed. And somebody else's food is late. They don't have time to talk to us either. Like, why do you have a perfect bro? The strippers don't even talk to you anymore. They used to, like, come over and be like, why are you here, sir? Have you found that even that's gone?
- [07:36]
Stugatz
Yes, I know lots about that at the Georgia Aquarium.
- [07:39]
Jessica
Used to be a people business.
- [07:41]
Roy Wood Jr.
Lonely Flowers is the new hour of stand up on Hulu. And I will say New York magazine calls it mesmerizing and brilliant. The New York Times says, quote, wood puts all of himself in this special. And Dominique Foxworth, our favorite critic, has tweeted twice that it is perfect. Did you think it was perfect?
- [08:02]
Amin Elhassan
There's one joke I flubbed, but other than that, yeah, I. I set out what I went. What I meant to do. Hey, we're lonely. Here's why we're lonely. Here's solutions to the loneliness. Here's where I'm lonely. Good night. Those were the three beats of the special because I don't think you can get out there without talking about your own stuff a little bit. I don't think. I think that's disingenuous in a way. You know, I deal with that a little bit. Like, I joke about it, but I did get invited to a sex party by two porn stars, and I didn't go. And then my mother told me all they were trying to do was connect with you. Like, in what world does your Christian mother have to point out the fact that you rejected connection, essentially, is what I did. Say what you want about weird stuff, but at least those people found their tribe.
- [08:53]
Jessica
Roy Dan, read these very nice quotes from prestigious outlets. And Dominique Foxworthy. But to you, as a comedian, these can't be the places where you're like, oh, I feel good that New York magazine really liked my stuff, Right? Where do you find. I won't call it validation, but where do you find that feel good of man? So and so really respected my work.
- [09:16]
Amin Elhassan
It won't be now, bro. It'll be. I mean, it'll be like, three years from now, some standup that I respect and look up to. It'll just be, you did your thing with the flower shit, and then they'll just walk off. Like, it'll be the quickest, shortest interaction, and it will mean the absolute world to me. Bro.
- [09:36]
Roy Wood Jr.
What are the ones that have landed? What are the ones that have memorable over time? When you're getting the compliment from a comedian's comedian.
- [09:44]
Amin Elhassan
Chris Rock complimented me one time on a Daily show segment, and it was something I'd done, like, two years prior. So the fact that that was, like, still sitting in his mind, and he was like, well, first off, why are you at home watching the Daily Show, Chris Rock? Don't you have stuff to do? And I guess the answer is no. So Sinbad watches a lot of comedy still. Sinbad knew who I was. I met him at a Netflix party. And, like, that's one of the guys that I looked up to was Sinbad, Carlin, Chris Rock, and Martin Lawrence, you know, when I started. And so that. That was really, really dope. I did a thing on Daily show, man. This might have been year two. Dan, you might remember this. You remember when I did the. We took the black trump, I wore a Trump wig. And the basic theory was that you could take any Trump line and it sounds like a rap song. And we took a series of Trump quotes and created a full rap song comprised of nothing but actual Donald Trump quotes and shot a music video for it. And Martin Lawrence retweeted it, and then, like, then on Facebook, typed a whole paragraph about why this is good and what, like, really broke down. This takes me back to when I was. And I was just like, wow. Like, that. Those. Those stand out, like, legit. I think that black Trump shit, I think it's still somewhere on YouTube or wherever, but I remember that one being one that. That really make me feel good. I mean, the magazines are cool. I mean, they're gonna rip you one day, they're gonna like you the next. But, like, when you get the respect of your peers and your people, you know, you go see Chappelle at the stand, and he sees you in the room and goes, hey, man, go get on stage, please. Like, that's. That's more of a review and an assessment of your career and your worth within your craft. You know what I'm saying? Like, that, to me, that will always mean more.
- [11:44]
Roy Wood Jr.
You're saying those are the highest compliments, right? There are none higher. Right?
- [11:48]
Amin Elhassan
If Chappelle says, get on this show where they're here to see me, what's higher than that? I think you're good enough that I will put you on stage in front of my audience. That, like, no comic is going to put on somebody who's going to lay a turd on the stage. So for me, that's the highest compliment that could be paid to a comedian, Roy.
- [12:10]
Jessica
The opposite of that. Do you ever get when someone comes up to you and says, oh, man, I really loved that bit. Or that joke that you did, and you look back at like, oh, that was so sophomoric. And it was like, I'm so much better than that. Now you're embarrassed by it.
- [12:25]
Amin Elhassan
Every prank call I've ever done on the radio. Yeah, well, you know, for the people who don't know, I did mornings for a Decade probably amassed 2, 3, 400 prank phone calls over that time. I put out three CDs, and then people were bootlegging me to death. Like, remember going viral over email? Like, back in the day, kids, when you liked something, you emailed it to your friend and then they downloaded it. They downloaded a random file from a stranger. And so, like, my pranks have found a second life on TikTok now with all the young kids who found the bootlegs on YouTube, I don't hate on it.
- [13:05]
Roy Wood Jr.
That's some evergreen comedy, though, right? Like that. My brother used to love do that. Like, that's the playground. Whatever you were doing with those prank calls is about the most fun that you can have. Just anytime you pick up a phone, you're able to make comedy.
- [13:21]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, but it's also, I was 20 when I was doing those 46. So people, like, will find them on TikTok. Hey, man, you should do those again. I was cussing out black people. And, like, there was a lady I called one time. She was in the. Literally in the hospital attached to an ekg, and I didn't hang up with her. We kept arguing. She could have died, bro. And so pranks are a young man's game. And I'm happy that people have found that part of my career. But that is the past. I'll never go back to it. I'll never do another prank. I think I did an episode of crank anchors 10 years ago. Even that felt weird.
- [13:59]
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on.
- [14:00]
Amin Elhassan
I just like. But I love that the kids have found it and laugh at it like this. Young tiktokers that have reached out to me. Is it okay if I put. Yeah, post it. I'm not going to copyright strike. You monetize it. If you can figure out a way to get money off a joke I told 25 years ago, so be it. That's how I give back for all the bootlegging I did.
- [14:20]
Roy Wood Jr.
Pranks are pranks. A young man's game. Put it on the poll. Ebittard show. The special, as I said, is Lonely Flowers. It is on Hulu. Let's play a clip here for Roy. I don't know if we've selected a clip that he likes or he doesn't like, but he'll break it down for us afterward. Let's see.
- [14:37]
Amin Elhassan
Every son's dream, every child's dream is to retire their parents. You ain't got to do this no more, Mama. I got you not realizing that we're creating a disconnect for our parents. But I saw you work. I saw you bust your ass for five, six decades, and it's thankless. It's education. You ain't gonna make bank on it. So relax. You've done your best. Relax. I just talked to Trevor Noah. He getting ready to quit the show. I'm gonna be the host. You can relax, Ma. Scott, you got to hit a lick, Jones. I had to call my mama back six months later. You didn't quit yet, did you? That is a fairly accurate representation of what happened between me and my mom.
- [15:38]
Roy Wood Jr.
Have you gotten over it? Because I. I don't know that, like, I. I was rooting so hard for you, because I think you would have been perfect for the time and the place, and with that support system, it would have been unbelievable. So, I don't know. Has the sting of that gone away?
- [15:56]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, I mean, it was never a sting as much as it was. All right, Y'all don't know what y'all want to do. I. At some point, I'm never gonna. I'm not gonna be working here anymore anyway. Like, that's the inevitability of all employment. So I will just leave now. And I mean, bro, I'm blessed, man. I got the Hulu special, cnn. We're back next month, and I'm in a movie with Keanu Reeves later this year.
- [16:20]
Roy Wood Jr.
Can you.
- [16:21]
Amin Elhassan
I'll take that.
- [16:22]
Roy Wood Jr.
Can you get me the name drop, please? I was hitting. Look at.
- [16:27]
Jessica
No, that's not a name drop.
- [16:29]
Roy Wood Jr.
I'm in a movie with Keanu Reeves. It's not a name drop.
- [16:33]
Jessica
He's talking about his job.
- [16:34]
Stugatz
Said I'm in a movie.
- [16:35]
Roy Wood Jr.
I mean, well, no, it's like being in a movie.
- [16:37]
Jessica
Like, look, look, there's a lot of left.
- [16:39]
Amin Elhassan
I just left Sundance last week. I was in Sundance skiing with all the stuff when I saw John Hammond.
- [16:44]
Roy Wood Jr.
Look at me, Louie. Yes, that's both of.
- [16:49]
Jessica
The names he's dropping.
- [16:51]
Roy Wood Jr.
Yeah. The rarest of things. Look at me, Louie and a name drop at exactly the same time in. Are you doing John Wick?
- [16:59]
Amin Elhassan
No, no, heavens, no. This is. It's a comedy. It's Keanu Reeves and Jonah Hill. It's called Outcome. All I can say about it right now, it'll be on Apple Plus. All I can say is that I play a character that is essentially. Imagine if Deion Sanders was a civil rights lawyer.
- [17:18]
Roy Wood Jr.
Why is that all you can say?
- [17:21]
Amin Elhassan
Cause I don't know what the hell else I can say legally right now about a film that hasn't. That doesn't have a trailer yet. And I don't want to get in trouble with Apple.
- [17:28]
Roy Wood Jr.
All right. That's a good.
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Amin Elhassan
It's a comedy.
- [17:29]
Roy Wood Jr.
That's a good reason. I'm sorry.
- [17:30]
Amin Elhassan
See, that's how people get edited out of movies. Talking too much.
- [17:33]
Roy Wood Jr.
I'm sorry.
- [17:34]
Amin Elhassan
They got the AI. They'd take my ass right out and put in Anthony Anderson or something. No.
- [17:39]
Jessica
Then you got to call your mom again, say, yeah, Joyce, bad news. I don't know that you could have.
- [17:49]
Roy Wood Jr.
Done funnier than Anthony Anderson there. What. What do you make of. Because I did want to talk some politics with you and I wanted to talk some sports. What did. What have you been making of all the DEI stuff? Like, I thought. I thought inclusion and. And diversity, and I thought these things. Equality. I were positive things. I thought every. Thank you. I mean, I thought everyone was kind of in favor of those things.
- [18:16]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. But I think somehow equality in DE and I, they've equated to welfare or a handout instead of recognizing as people as qualified or more qualified than white applicants. Statistically, white women benefit the best and the most from DE and I. So I think it's going to be on them to lead the charge to get that back on the books once they get all unemployed.
- [18:37]
Dan Le Batard
It's hard. I can't do it all by myself.
- [18:41]
Amin Elhassan
I think it's that also. I think, bro, there's going to be like a downturn on harassment suits and trying to prove discrimination in the workplace as well. Like, it's about to get weird. I have a broader question about DE and I. As we start eliminating initiatives and programs, do Big and Tall stores fall under DE and I?
- [19:04]
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on the poll.
- [19:05]
Amin Elhassan
Should we get rid of them?
- [19:06]
Roy Wood Jr.
Put it on the Pol at Lebatard show. Do Big and Tall stores. I thought that these were the places that we. We could still make fun of people and we can go after men who are heavy. I know.
- [19:16]
Amin Elhassan
Well, there's Lane Bryant. So, I mean. No, stop. I'm not making a joke about what just we Know what Lane Bryant is?
- [19:25]
Roy Wood Jr.
I'm just saying I know this to be so that these are spaces that are still allowed to mock men who are heavy and short. This is still allowed.
- [19:35]
Amin Elhassan
I thought, here's the issue. I'm at that weird threshold and, Dan, I don't know where you are in your fitness journey right now, but I feel like you're like me, where I'm almost too big for the department store, but I'm too skinny for Big and Tall right there. So I need a 4032.
- [19:54]
Roy Wood Jr.
I live there. I live in that purgatory.
- [19:56]
Amin Elhassan
38, 32, 40, 32. Depending on the. Depending on the clothing designer. Right. And there's Almost always only 1:40, 32. And then you go, can you check your other stores? Yeah, we got one five hours away, you kind of chubby bastard. So I either need to gain £20 or lose 10. And I want to know whether or not I can sue these department stores for not carrying enough 4032s, because I think it's discrimination against my people. If a woman can sue Lyft for not being able to get in the car, I should be able to sue a department store for not being able.
- [20:30]
Jessica
You know, Roy, did you discover, as I did, that she's a rapper, like, from the news story? The news story is that rapper sues lift. I'm like, you rap? I guess that's a great way to get your name out.
- [20:41]
Amin Elhassan
Okay, well, then I want her on stage with that other rapper that they keep willing out there. What's his name? Dave Bluntz. Put it with him.
- [20:49]
Jessica
Blunt?
- [20:50]
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. You know the one?
- [20:51]
Jessica
I know the guy.
- [20:52]
Amin Elhassan
He sat the whole time, and he's a great rapper. He's like so big that he stood during one of his raps and got a standing ovation.
- [21:04]
Roy Wood Jr.
See, I just.
- [21:05]
Amin Elhassan
For standing. I'm not hating. I'm just saying I want in on this inequality lawsuit game, too. And I think Big and Tall is going to be my play.
- [21:15]
Dan Le Batard
The other day I was watching Only Murders in the Building, and I saw you in an episode, and it reminded me of. I think it was either Greg Cody or Stugat saying Martin Short and Steve Martin were both overrated comics. So I wanted to ask your opinion as someone who's in their sort of like, career renaissance show right now.
- [21:32]
Roy Wood Jr.
So bad.
- [21:33]
Amin Elhassan
I saw. I read that script for that episode in season one, and I think it's a five page scene that I'm in. There's probably a page and a half of dialogue that they hit once for the director Then the director gives them the Steve and Martin short do your thing magic take. And they did everything in that scene without the dialogue that was on the page. And it somehow still fit the dialogue that I had to throw back at them. And they improvised all types of extra stuff. And they did add a second of tape to the take. The level of perfection. It'd be literally like if I told you to rap a song as written, and then I say, now freestyle that same song. Hit all the choruses, hit all the bridges at the exact same time, but use whatever words you want and make sure the song still says the same thing.
- [22:23]
Roy Wood Jr.
Roy, when you're talking about what that mastery and that expertise is, I would think that even someone as prolific as you would be awed and careful about doing the double dutch with them when they're into the comic rhythms of we're going back and forth. I would find all of that intimidating. I would. I would fall on the floor and want to leave the room.
- [22:45]
Amin Elhassan
Deathly intimidating. Like, they're straight up gods, bro. And they're like, okay, now you're in the scene and now talk about a cactus. And you're just praying you don't mess up. But they don't let you feel intimidated by them. They have a way of disarming. Like, it's like they're Steve Martin for sure. He's aware of how great he is and how great you think he is that he will just kind of disarm you in a scene. Overrated. Why?
- [23:12]
Roy Wood Jr.
No, but it's wildly disrespectful. Look, you're somebody. Tell me in your community, because I don't know where it is that comedians now who are getting success, who are younger, are disrespectful to whoever. Let's say Andrew Schultz doesn't think Seinfeld is very good and isn't shy about saying so and garnering the attention that comes from saying so. Do you ever see any of this beef in your world where, like, that's disrespectful, young fellow?
- [23:40]
Amin Elhassan
No. Most disrespect that I see is about business. It's about. Or it's about joke theft. Like, if you look at Cat Williams and the grievances he had on Shannon Sharp, none of it was about, I don't think you're funny. It was more technical, business related stuff. You crossed me, you wronged me, you disrespected the game in some sort of way. But just coming out and going, somebody ain't funny, that's not going to be Enough for you to build your career for 20 years. Anybody can get five years and stand up. Regardless of your skill set, you can get a five year Runway. But then as your audience's taste evolves, can you evolve with them? Will be the question. And that's the true testament. So, you know, we'll see.
- [24:19]
Jessica
Roy, Jessica asked you about only murders in the building. That's one where you're going in with these comedy icons. The opposite of that, I guess, would be Flatbush Misdemeanors, where you're kind of the established comedian and you're dealing with younger guys who are trying to make their way. What's the difference in doing that one show versus this one?
- [24:38]
Amin Elhassan
I think setting an example is probably the weirdest thing, you know, like, because the scene I was in was with Hasan Johnson, who, you know, we know is Wee BAE from the Wire. And, you know, he's a drama. You know, he does drama for the most part. So to be in a comedy with him was like, that was dope. But when I'm around younger comics, man, I'm just here to be a reservoir of advice. I remember when I first moved to LA, bro, in 06, I was in this acting class, and they have all the pictures of everybody who took the class before you and Aisha. Tyler was on there, and I sent her a disrespectfully long Facebook message. Just a give me the game. You black? I'm black. La. Hello.
- [25:23]
Jessica
Oh, he was in the middle of the night. That's a good story.
- [25:26]
Roy Wood Jr.
It's a good ending, though, for him to say hello and then for it immediately to be goodbye.
- [25:32]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet?
- [25:36]
Stugatz
Yeah, sold it to Carvana.
- [25:38]
Dan Le Batard
Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy.
- [25:40]
Stugatz
The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency, no interest, over 36 months.
- [25:45]
Roy Wood Jr.
Yeah, no.
- [25:47]
Stugatz
Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
- [25:52]
Jessica
Just like that.
- [25:53]
Stugatz
Yeah.
- [25:54]
Dan Le Batard
No hassle.
- [25:55]
Roy Wood Jr.
None.
- [25:55]
Jessica
That is super convenient.
- [25:57]
Dan Le Batard
Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience. Pick up fees may apply.
- [26:02]
Greg Cody
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- [27:14]
Dan Le Batard
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- [27:56]
Roy Wood Jr.
Don Leardard Billy, somebody has written in here. I need way more.
- [28:06]
Amin Elhassan
I'm sorry.
- [28:07]
Stugatz
I just said in his headset. Haven't you been to all of them too? It sounded like you were speaking aloud. My bad.
- [28:13]
Amin Elhassan
Totally on me.
- [28:15]
Stugatz
That's 100% on me.
- [28:17]
Jessica
All right.
- [28:18]
Stugatz
STS but that goes without saying, right?
- [28:22]
Amin Elhassan
That it couldn't happen.
- [28:22]
Billy Corben
Well, now he said he didn't. He didn't say it again.
- [28:27]
Roy Wood Jr.
Greg.
- [28:27]
Amin Elhassan
My apologies.
- [28:28]
Roy Wood Jr.
Greg. Why Greg? Yeah, Greg.
- [28:31]
Jessica
Greg.
- [28:31]
Amin Elhassan
He apologized.
- [28:32]
Roy Wood Jr.
Craig. Sincerely.
- [28:34]
Billy Corben
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
- [28:42]
Roy Wood Jr.
Let me get some basketball from Amin. I just need De'aaron Fox talk. I need. This is the Sacramento Kings are evidence of it is not Easy to stay up there. Like you can visit. You can visit. But the Sacramento Kings is a franchise or a good example for how hard it is to stay up there. And now they're in a position where they're going to lose. I don't know if that's Sabonis team, but they're going to lose somebody who matters to them.
- [29:09]
Jessica
Well, Dan, it's funny that you said it's hard to stay up there. They were there for the briefest of moments. I make this joke all the time. They've made one playoffs since the Bush administration. One. And that was the one two years ago. And they lost in the first round. Steph Curry and the Warriors. So it's one thing to say stay up there. I wouldn't even say they got up there. They just merely rose their heads over the waterline of offal for a brief moment, a gasp of oxygen and then back down underwater again. And they blame their coach for it. I don't think that that was the right way to do it, but I understand how things get to where they get. And at some point you don't really have a choice.
- [29:52]
Roy Wood Jr.
The coaching fraternity, though, really rallied around how unfair it was that Mike Brown would have more success there than anyone since Adelman and that they would turn around and be that unforgiving about forgetting about it.
- [30:04]
Jessica
Well, I'll tell you how that happens, Dan. It's very simple. It happens when there's two ways to handle discourse or whatever, right? Guy comes up to you, someone in the front office, someone in ownership, someone in the organization who's not the head coach. Say, man, coach is kind of screwing me over over here. There's two ways to handle it, right? There's the way it's handled, sadly, in most of the NBA where it's like, yeah, you know, it's kind of messed up that he's doing that and. Which basically gives you leeway. Oh, okay. There's a crack here in the foundation. I can criticize coach. I can bring grievances. These guys are on my side. And regardless of whether that's the intention in the moment or down the line, this is what happens. What ends up happening is you have contradicted the coach. You have undermined them. Even if you know he's doing a good job, you reach a point where Sacramento reach, which is. Doesn't matter if he's a good coach. Doesn't matter if he's done a good job up until now. Now those guys aren't listening to him anymore. And once they've Lost that kind of respect or whatever, it's over. The other part is the Pat Riley, do you ever get the itch? I never get the itch. And right then and there, that's the decision. It's at that moment, very early on in the relationship between the coach, the front office and the players.
- [31:20]
Roy Wood Jr.
You're telling a story there. Did you guys understand his basketball shorthand for did you ever get the itch? I never get the itch because I don't think any of you understood what he was saying. And you're the audience. The shipping container, does it have any idea what he's talking about there?
- [31:36]
Dan Le Batard
I'm in tummy ache city right now. Can you. The itch, Jock itch? I don't know.
- [31:42]
Stugatz
I know, but Billy didn't.
- [31:42]
Billy Corben
No, it was good.
- [31:43]
Roy Wood Jr.
Yes. You want to explain? It's LeBron, it's Pat Riley. It's a moment in time where the Miami Heat are 9 and 8 and LeBron bumps Spo on the court and then asks Riley, do you ever get the itch to coach again?
- [32:01]
Jessica
And Riley, yeah, so the team's not doing great. He goes to go meet with Riley, talk about what's going on. What's going on? How can we be better? And in the middle of this conversation, how can we be better? LeBron asked Pat, hey, don't you ever get the itch? Meaning like, do you ever feel like you want to come down and Coach? Which is LeBron testing the boundaries, like, hey, is this dude on my side here? It's like, yes. SPO's kind of messing up. Maybe I will. He's like, if Pat Ryhad said anything like that, yeah, sometimes, but you know, like automatically you are validating this emotion that's coming across your desk. And legend has it, Pat leans forward across the desk and stares at him and said, I never get the itch. Meaning, like, don't even try that bullshit around me. Even if Pat does get the itch, he wasn't about to admit it right there. Cuz he knew if he did, Eric Spolzer's now Hall of Fame worthy career is over before that season.
- [32:54]
Roy Wood Jr.
That is why we have this statute of Pat Riley here. That is why we talk so much Jimmy Butler and alienate our audience.
- [33:01]
Jessica
So going back to Mike Brown. Mike Brown, I suspect, cuz you can't get from, hey, this is the most successful coach we've had since Rick Adelman to a year and a half later. Get out of here. Unless someone has conversations of the itch variety. Maybe not like it's cuz it's not a head coach.
- [33:20]
Roy Wood Jr.
No, but this is talked about a lot in Sacramento. Did De'Aaron Fox have anything to do with that? And where does De'Aaron Fox think in going in that playoff run? That he's responsible for some of the success that they've had out there. And now why is De'Aaron Fox wanting to play in San Antonio?
- [33:36]
Jessica
I'm not even putting on De'Aaron Fox. I'm just saying players were disgruntled and their disgruntlement was not met with, well, that's the coach. You better march to his orders. And then they figure out, well, man, they're really serious about this coach. Their disgruntlement was more than likely met with. Yeah, I get it, he can be tough. But like, once you do all of that, that placating, it undermines the best coach they've had since Rick Adelman. Right? No disrespect to Michael Malone now, Fox.
- [34:05]
Stugatz
Well, it is disrespect to him.
- [34:07]
Jessica
No, I think Michael Malone would say, look, he did a better job in Sacramento than I did. Now Michael Malone would say, they didn't give me a shot to be that great because I got fired very quickly as well.
- [34:17]
Roy Wood Jr.
Jessica's stomach problems are now troubling me. I believe that she is sinking into her seat.
- [34:22]
Dan Le Batard
Why do I have heartburn?
- [34:23]
Roy Wood Jr.
It's 11:00am she's going to. Did you welcome. What did you have been. What happened?
- [34:28]
Dan Le Batard
She's on our bag of deluxe mixed nuts.
- [34:31]
Roy Wood Jr.
That should be okay, right?
- [34:32]
Dan Le Batard
I don't know.
- [34:33]
Billy Corben
Just yesterday, like I asked, the room just allowed. I go, you guys bodies just ache anymore. You guys not there yet. And yesterday I got a no, we're not there yet. I'm glad. Today we're there and I'm glad. Welcome. Welcome to here.
- [34:49]
Dan Le Batard
What kind of curse did Nick Wright put on me?
- [34:52]
Roy Wood Jr.
Was it the show or is it football for all year, we're all stumbling, burping, belching to the finish line of football. Is it? Are we sure? Jessica, you.
- [35:02]
Stugatz
I mean, I've been pretty backed up this week, if that's what you're asking.
- [35:05]
Billy Corben
It's just age, man.
- [35:06]
Jessica
She's crossed the line that she shall never cross back.
- [35:09]
Roy Wood Jr.
Oh, no.
- [35:09]
Jessica
You are one of us now.
- [35:11]
Dan Le Batard
I'm blaming Stugatz for getting me sick. Where's Stugatz? Heartburn is always the first sign. I'm getting sick.
- [35:16]
Jessica
Really?
- [35:16]
Roy Wood Jr.
Yes. Are we all getting sick? Is that what's happening? No, you guys are getting sick.
- [35:19]
Dan Le Batard
You're already sick. You told us this Morning.
- [35:21]
Billy Corben
You said that this morning.
- [35:22]
Jessica
Yeah, he started the show with it.
- [35:24]
Billy Corben
Why are you here?
- [35:25]
Stugatz
How do we get back to our goal?
- [35:26]
Jessica
Because Jason Kelsey, that's why he's worried we'll go to the same.
- [35:30]
Roy Wood Jr.
I had to get in and talk about Tyreek Hill. I just had to.
- [35:33]
Billy Corben
If you didn't, who would? You know?
- [35:37]
Stugatz
No, really, who would?
- [35:39]
Roy Wood Jr.
I am really struggling here. Toward the end of the show, can you guys tell me all of the information that I need to know? I am ignorant on this subject. Is Madonna one of the great reinventors of my pop culture lifetime? Is she doing something with stand up comedy? That is a very bad decision by her.
- [36:00]
Jessica
This is why I'm upset that Roy never came back. Cuz I wanted to ask him about this. Madonna is apparently friends with Amy Schumer. Amy Schumer was at the Cellar in New York and said to Madonna, hey, you should get up there and do a set. Madonna proceeds to do 32 minutes and bombs. And all I could think of was I hope that I am never so rich, powerful and successful that my comedian friends, in order to placate my celebrity, suggest to me you should try standup.
- [36:35]
Stugatz
Hear that Brad Williams? I'm not opening for you.
- [36:39]
Roy Wood Jr.
Brad Williams is the star of the Greg Cody Show. You guys need to do something here. Our audience needs to boost those YouTube numbers over there for the Greg Cody show featuring Greg Cody on YouTube. They have Brad Williams being able to talk very, very exceptionally little about a movie that he's in.
- [36:57]
Jessica
What movie?
- [37:00]
Stugatz
The famous sequel. Dan. You know I suck with all these Spinal Taps. There you go. That one. Oh, one of the Spinal Taps.
- [37:09]
Roy Wood Jr.
Okay. It's a good promotion for your dad and his YouTube channel for you not to know anything.
- [37:14]
Stugatz
My dad wanted to talk Spinal T. I've never seen the first one.
- [37:17]
Dan Le Batard
Oh, you would like it. I feel like it's great.
- [37:19]
Roy Wood Jr.
It's great. Spinal Tap holds up.
- [37:21]
Jessica
Wait, there's a Spinal Tap sequel?
- [37:22]
Stugatz
It's coming out with Brad Williams and.
- [37:24]
Jessica
Brad Williams, isn't it?
- [37:25]
Stugatz
Yes.
- [37:25]
Roy Wood Jr.
You'll never guess the role he plays.
- [37:28]
Dan Le Batard
What's your guys favorite nut? Almond cashew or shower.
- [37:31]
Roy Wood Jr.
I'm worried about you and I say the cashew. The cashew is the best of the nuts. I will have no disagreement on this. Although the macadamia nut, I'm addicted to them.
- [37:41]
Dan Le Batard
That's probably why I've heartburn. I've eaten probably 6,000 macadamia nuts this week.
- [37:45]
Roy Wood Jr.
While the macadamia nut has an enormous amount of. Of fat. So that's absolutely what's happening in your stomach like that is. You have put. Now an oily. There's an oily residue of. That is the fattiest of the nuts.
- [37:56]
Dan Le Batard
But it's healthy fat, right?
- [37:58]
Roy Wood Jr.
Dr. Ibraze, I am your nut doctor.
- [38:02]
Stugatz
I'm picturing the nut getting into your stomach.
- [38:04]
Roy Wood Jr.
Wait a minute.
- [38:04]
Stugatz
And you being like, hey, you give me the fat and the nuts. Looking at your belly being like, no, you have the fat.
- [38:10]
Roy Wood Jr.
I am. I am. No, I am Eberfluss the nut doctor. Well, I'm fine with that.
- [38:16]
Billy Corben
He's an ent.
- [38:19]
Roy Wood Jr.
You're right about that.
- [38:22]
Dan Le Batard
Why did he check my prostate then?
- [38:24]
Roy Wood Jr.
Where did that come from? There was no reason for a glory hole there. You were just descending. You were trying to be part of the fun. It fit. I am a nut expert. I don't care who knows it. And I will rank the nuts for you if you like. The macadamia nut is the greatest of all of the nuts, if you're willing to do that. That fatty. It's aggressive. It's an enormous amount of fattiness. My father. The cashew is number two. I will not have an argument about this. I will not discuss it with you further. And number three is the pistachio. That is the list. Billy, you have something that.
- [39:06]
Billy Corben
No, I just. I like the peak.
- [39:08]
Jessica
I like predates.
- [39:09]
Dan Le Batard
That's a legume.
- [39:10]
Stugatz
What about Deez?
- [39:11]
Amin Elhassan
Is it.
- [39:11]
Dan Le Batard
Yes, it is. We normally do top fives around here, Dan.
- [39:14]
Roy Wood Jr.
I did. I did it. So aggressive. I did it in the wrong order, but yes, number one. Number one would have been Deez nuts. Yes, of course. That's what. That's what would have been, obviously. What's number four if I had done it correctly? No, I. I was. Now I have to do it the other way. Right. Number four, the pistachio. Number three, the cashew. Number two, the macadamia nut. And number one, Deez nuts.
- [39:34]
Stugatz
Hey, I think we got a number five.
- [39:38]
Roy Wood Jr.
I did it wrong.
- [39:39]
Dan Le Batard
Pecan. It was pecan.
- [39:40]
Billy Corben
Did you say your dad's a cashew?
- [39:42]
Roy Wood Jr.
My dad is a cashew nut.
- [39:44]
Billy Corben
Oh, wait.
- [39:45]
Jessica
Is he a nut for cashews?
- [39:47]
Roy Wood Jr.
Yeah, he's addicted. I'm the nut doctor. My father is the. My father loves cashews and went through a period where he was eating those Costco cashews and that like that. Do you talk about stomach problems? Because you're just oiling. You're just oiling your entire system.
- [40:03]
Stugatz
I feel like we're all Greg Cody right now, just petering out.
- [40:06]
Dan Le Batard
Honestly, I laughed so hard I feel better now. My heartburn kind of went away.
- [40:11]
Roy Wood Jr.
You feel like we're petering out and all I feel like is a group of people staring at me as I press the gas on nut talk because I can see that you're petering out. So now I'm pressing the gas. But these are the best nuts and I will not have it disputed it.
- [40:27]
Billy Corben
Nuts are pressing the gas too?
- [40:28]
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, apparently.
- [40:30]
Roy Wood Jr.
Can you guys dispute any of what I'm saying? Any of you going to make an argument on behalf of a nut to crack our nut? Top four there.
- [40:37]
Stugatz
Say like the morning time?
- [40:39]
Dan Le Batard
I. Yeah, I was. I was going to go a shower.
- [40:51]
Jessica
Before you got on a date. That's a good one too.
- [41:18]
Billy Corben
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- [42:28]
Stugatz
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