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Fair enough.
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Stugats
Let's drive.
Chris Cody
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Stugats
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Chris Cody
Notre Dame is declining a bowl invitation.
Stugats
After being left out of the playoff. I don't like it if you don't get it your way. You just take your ball and go home.
Dan Le Batard
You cannot be an independent, control your own schedule and then pout when you don't get in.
Notre Dame Fan/Commentator
We're another Dame so we just belong in the playoffs. Forget who we played.
Or who we lost to. Just be digging our heels down in the sand, canceling our Christmas travel plans, taking our ball with us and going home to prove a point to the committee. Cause we couldn't beat the good teams that we played. I think we'll just stop down the only option here is be whiny clowns I think we'll just stop down there's nothing else to do but just sit in, pal I think we'll just.
Stugats
Got.
Notre Dame Fan/Commentator
A bitch and moan cause they left us out I think we'll just stop down we're petty baby boys and we're crashing out.
Chris Cody
I did not expect to be as excited about the way things played out with the Miami Hurricanes yesterday as I was like, I don't lose sleep over the Hurricanes, all right? I don't lose sleep over, over college sports. It's kids, it's student athletes, you know, Like, I don't let it make me angry. And I was on the plane yesterday getting back from the SEC championship game, and I got the selection show on my phone. So now we arrive Miami Airport. I'm walking through the airport, watching on my phone. And once they got to Alabama and number nine, it said Alabama like, oh, Kane's got a shot now. Cause if it said Alabama at 9, Keynes are screwed.
Gavin
And then if it said Notre Dame at night.
Chris Cody
Yeah, what did I say?
Stugats
You said Alabama.
Chris Cody
If it said Notre Dame and I'm like, oh, Cane's a screw. But if it says Alabama got a.
Gavin
Chance, held out hope the Canes had passed Alabama and the AP vote. And I mean that, that performance was really bad. And if you were leaning on history. Hell, if you were leaning on that show. Teams that lost a conference championship slid and they lost their conference championship the worst.
Chris Cody
It's one year history, though.
Gavin
No, no, no, no. In every year of the cfp, you lose that game. There was a reigning national champion Georgia team that ended up beating Florida State by 70, that lost its SEC championship game, that didn't have a chance to defend its title.
Chris Cody
I don't think it's comparable to compare a 4, 4 team and a 12 team. It's such different circumstances.
Gavin
But in the expanded playoff, everybody slides. And for that team to be the one lone outlier that didn't slide, it makes it kind of strange. And it. It was maybe a little tip of the hand when they climbed inexplicably over Notre Dame. We did mention that maybe they're guarding against them losing in the SEC title game by them putting Alabama over Notre Dame when Notre Dame was pretty dominant against Stanford and Alabama had a bad game, a game in which they almost blew a 17 point lead to 5 and 7. Auburn, a team that's not very good. But the committee raised them and they gave all sorts of weird logic for it. But you're right. Once Alabama flashed up on that graphic, I was like, okay, well, I'm prepared for this one. This is the fight that we've been fighting for a month.
Chris Cody
Question. If Duke does not win the ACC championship. Because. Because once Duke won the ACC championship, like, all right, I thought there was a chance. I thought it was a good chance the Canes were going to get screwed because Alabama's gonna bump down and that's gonna keep that stupid buffer that they've been lying to us about for the past month in between Notre Dame and Miami. But because Duke won the ACC championship, is the committee gonna say we can't not have an ACC team in. So you know what? Miami, you're in late. Like, do you think that. Did that actually help the Canes?
Stugats
I mean, I just. I'm curious because, well, the things you said, the one thing you said that was correct is that Notre Dame has a right to feel duped. And the reason why is because every show, I mean, Mike's anger week by week is based on the one thing where it's like they're ignoring it. They're ignoring it, they're ignoring. And then at the last minute, like, oh, that's right, Mike's right. But nothing changed between those two teams. They were idle.
Gavin
Nothing.
Stugats
So how. I'm wondering how they're going to explain that to the world.
Gavin
I want to chew on that for a second. But briefly, let me get back to the original point about Duke. Hunter Jureczyk made it very clear to the point that it was pretty convincing that the Duke Virginia game had zero impact on this Miami Notre Dame decision. And I'm with you. I kind of feel like it's hard to turn to the Big 12 and the ACC and say two group of fives get in and only one of your little conglomerate get in. I'm with you. When I was lay my head down and go to sleep on Saturday night, I was like, I guess I want Duke to win because it's a little extra. But the CFP has been consistent and strong, stronger than anything else. That when saying the Duke victory had nothing to do with this, don't forget.
Chris Cody
What was also working against Miami was the night before Friday night, Boise won the Mountain west. And that helped Notre Dame's case because it strengthened their schedule. A team that they crushed just won their conference.
Dan Le Batard
My question is, if Virginia would have won, would that have forced the community to have some sort of conversation about Virginia or no?
Gavin
No, Virginia would have been in. Virginia would have James Madison automatically. But I want to talk about what amin reference, which was it did seem like Notre Dame got caught with their pants down here. And I know what their ad is saying right now. Their ad is taking it out on the acc. Not a fan of how the ACC have taken to their social channels. Remember Jim Phillips kind of stood, stayed out of this and he just answered, yeah, Miami deserves to be in, not really taking shots at Notre Dame.
Chris Cody
I think there's been a very arrogant response from Notre Dame. Very arrogant.
Stugats
It's arrogant for sure. But it also reminds me of like we've all been there where you're dating a significant other. It's like, what do you want for your birthday? I don't want anything. It's okay. I don't want anything. You don't have to do anything big. You don't do anything big. I thought you cared. Like, wait a second, I thought we were on the same.
Chris Cody
You told me you didn't want anything.
Stugats
You told me you don't want anything. And now all of a sudden I'm wrong.
Gavin
So to tell the audience, Pete Pavacqua, the Notre Dame ad went on Dan Patrick's and he said the ACC did, quote, permanent damage to its relationship with Notre Dame. For all the anti Irish playoff politicking the conference publicly leaned into in this lead up to the selection show. Again, you approach this with an arrogance Thinking that head to head ultimately wasn't going to matter. I think he also knows that this is deflection. Right? He's an administrator and a lot of Notre Dame fans are upset that he wasn't out there publicly campaigning more getting out in front of this notice he's turned his ire to the accident, who he has some sort of brilliant partnership with, where he gets all the benefit of the relationship, doesn't have to share any of the revenue money.
Chris Cody
Right?
Gavin
So, whoa. We're shocked that the ACC is backing one of the teams that it actually has to share revenue with, rather than a team that has the sweetest deal in all of the sport that if they make the playoff, none of their success is the ACCs. When Notre Dame is considered for these pools, even though they basically play an ACC light schedule, they're not part of the ACC narrative. The ACC is a joke. They don't get to claim any of Notre Dame success while they beat up on their teams. And as of the selection show, apparently beating them doesn't benefit you either.
Dan Le Batard
And Rich, coming from a team and a school that's like, hey, my mommy has a note that says that I.
Stugats
Get to go to your field next year.
Dan Le Batard
Next year. Like, if you got to do it, like my mom said, it's okay.
Chris Cody
Okay, can, can somebody explain this to me? Like, I'm a four year old. Yeah, what that report is because A, I don't understand what it means and B, why is this just coming out now?
Stugats
All right, so this is what Bavaqua told Yahoo. Sports in a part of a memorandum of understanding signed by CFP officials last spring. Notre Dame will be assured of making the playoff if it is ranked in the top 12 starting next year.
Amin
Why?
Stugats
That's the deal. They struggled.
Amin
This is based off of the fact that when it was initially expanded, Notre Dame became so like a year ago, two years ago, Right. When they expanded it, their AD at the time or their former ad, Jack Swarbrick was part of this. But ultimately what ended up happening, right, is you have these five automatic qualifiers that are all the top five conference champions. As an independent team, Notre Dame cannot automatically qualify and in turn, their only option is to be an at large team. So this memorandum that they ultimately signed was, if you're ranked in the top 12, you're going to turn into an automatic bid.
Chris Cody
Because theoretically learning this now and not.
Amin
Two years ago, I think last year.
Gavin
Yeah, I think it was. I think it was out there last year. And this was a helpful reminder. Russellinger brought it back up to people.
Chris Cody
That's a real thing. That's going to be a thing next year.
Gavin
You also. I also think it was in part of a correction that the committee had in which Notre Dame was not eligible for a buy no matter how good their season was.
Chris Cody
Changed it after one year.
Gavin
They changed it after one year and this might have been lumped in on that. I mean there are ways to guardrail against that. If it comes down to Notre Dame, that 12 seed, the committee can also get out in front of this and have Miami in front of Notre Dame earlier like they should have. Again, the ridiculous part here is that they set up Notre Dame for this Okie doke and Notre Dame came with this arrogance saying that it couldn't happen to them and they believed this BS when at the end of the day they were going to be close on metrics. And Miami has the chief tiebreaker that is applied to all the competitive sports. For them to not think that this could happen to them shows a great arrogance on their part. And you can also tell by some of these comments is Pete's not going after the actual power. The AD is not invoking the SEC whatsoever. He's going after his flat track ACC partners, which I also think is in bad faith. The ACC helped you out in 2020. Bad leadership by Jim Phillips and company to just let them in the ACC and have an ACC schedule the entire time. Remember the Big Ten, Ohio State made the CFP going five and oh that year. All right, like the ACC had Notre Dame over a barrel. They were, they were helpful to one another. And for them to get nothing but this BS from Notre Dame, go ahead, explore other opportunities. Do it for other conferences. Because I don't need Notre Dame in my conference. I really don't. I don't need any of this nonsense. I would love to share in the revenue. I would love you to be a full fledged member. But if you're going to have your cake and eat it too and not share in any of the spoils and we don't even barely, we barely get credit for when we beat you. Find somebody else. Enjoy the Mountain west, pal.
Chris Cody
It was an incredible amount of hubris leading up to Sunday.
Stugats
Hubris.
Chris Cody
Davis, you put the tweets out there. Kane, Alabama, you guys go argue with each other. Okay?
Stugats
Was that them? Did they tweet that? I thought I was just.
Gavin
No, they didn't know. Like the fans were like, all right, this. Now that Alabama's been been blown out, this is not a Miami, Notre Dame thing. Miami had the better Argument against both schools. I feel for you, I understand you feel duped, you feel duped, but that's on you. You should have been sounding the alarm bells that hey, there is potential here for the obvious to happen. Miami had a common opponent against Alabama. They lost fsu, Miami beat them. Now what Alabama had over everybody else.
Chris Cody
Kate should have been ahead of Alabama too.
Gavin
Strength of schedule. Notre Dame was right there. They lost a head to head with Miami and they didn't have the common opponent deal that Miami had over Alabama. This was, if you had any foresight, like we've been telling you for weeks and weeks and weeks, this was going to potentially happen. They should have been more prepared.
Amin
The reality is, is if this College Football Playoff committee was to be any level of consistent, both Notre Dame and Miami would be in. Because BYU is a team that went to their conference championship, got blown out and in turn dropped out of the playoff conversation.
Chris Cody
They were already out if they didn't win the conference championship.
Amin
Alabama be right. Because Alabama was a team that was right there and they got absolutely dominated in their conference championship game, which led to a third loss by the way, negating one of their best wins. Right. Where BYU just lost to a team you already knew they weren't as good.
Chris Cody
While they were blown out and they.
Gavin
Got, they got knocked out.
Amin
At least to maintain a level of consistency. You're right easily. Notre Dame and Miami, you're better than these two teams. We just saw them go head to head with playoff teams. They got dominated, they're out. That was a de facto playoff game for both. But there's no level of consistency. You're picking your hand picking when you want to use the conference championship game as something that matters or not.
Stugats
She said she didn't want anything.
Gavin
But I, I do think that you brought up some good points as where I think you were going as it pertains to BYU is I hear all the arguments and you could have argued maybe they should have been included in the field that was in. But it was out there for BYU knew. They knew the stakes. They were outside looking in.
Chris Cody
Right. When they remain the same, they're still out.
Gavin
Yeah. So they, they knew that they had to win that game to get in.
Chris Cody
Yep.
Gavin
Because it was an automatic qualifier and they knew the deal going into it.
Chris Cody
Like you're mad that Alabama didn't move and so they still get in. Even if BYU didn't move, they still don't get in. So I mean is. Does it make sense that one moved and the other one didn't no, but even if BYU was treated the way Alabama was, they still don't. It's fair enough.
Amin
It's just more like. I think maybe the setup and the conceit from there maybe should have been that BYU would have been ahead of the two teams that are not making a conference championship. But that is something to argue on the back end, right? You're right. The way it was set up, they needed a way to get in, and they knew the stakes of that going in. It just makes no sense to have teams that go to a championship like BYU does drop in the ranking one way or another. Like, we see one team drop, we see another team that doesn't. And that's where Notre Dame has to be absolutely furious and BYU has to have.
A gripe, maybe not as strong as Notre Dame's.
Chris Cody
The biggest. There's going to be changes one way or another. I don't know what they're going to be. I would start with, we don't need to have this show. And I know it's part of a contract. I know it's part of a contract and it gets the ratings. I get it. But we. We don't need the show. We really don't. Because all these rankings leading up to the only ranking that clearly matters being yesterday. It literally didn't mean anything.
Stugats
Well, it did more than not mean anything. It misled.
Chris Cody
Yes, it missed.
Stugats
And that's the problem. I don't think the answer is to not have the show. The answer is have the show be done well, like, have them do what they should have been doing the whole time, as opposed to an irony making us have a better show by just having Mike mad every goddamn week.
Gavin
Kirk Herbstreet echoed this point. It's like, that Tuesday show seems so stupid because I can understand a fan being for Notre Dame being like, how the hell did. What happened over the weekend? If this was a Miami, Notre Dame thing the entire time, why didn't you. They actually said the opposite. They told us that Miami and Notre Dame were never in direct comparison. Now, the last few days, they opened the door to that which I guess Notre Dame should have.
Chris Cody
But, like, why? Why. Why the last few days, that's.
Gavin
That's support. I. This was. Miami had to get right. I wasn't arguing that they should have been ranked ahead of Notre Dame after they lost SMU because Miami was. What felt like in the middle of a spiral turned out to be a hiccup. But once Miami proved that they could right the ship the F we doing, which has been Much to the listeners dismay. Been my complaint the entire time I'm.
Stugats
Watching a clip of him on the Dan Patrick Show. The VA. He's. His background is like the bleachers, but they've been folded up. And so you could see the number. Corny, Corny. You don't deserve. You don't deserve to be in a playoff. You know what? No one wants you in the bowl game. Get out of here.
Chris Cody
Now, can we. Can we move the conversation forward a little bit? And what I mean by that is Canes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Canes are playing one of the teams that Notre Dame lost to, all right? So we can't have this whole to do leading up to it, and the Canes get the spot over Notre Dame, and then the Canes go to College Station and lay a massive egg. All right? Like, now you need to go there and take care of that business. All right? Come on, now. You can't go out there and let everybody give you an I told you so. You didn't belong. Notre Dame belongs there.
Gavin
To speak to the ego of Notre Dame fans, there were people unironically posting that the title of the matchup, Miami vs. Texas A and M, and all of them quote, tweeting, notre Dame, Notre Dame beats both these teams. Notre Dame had the opportunity to play against both these teams. Notre Dame went over two against these teams.
Chris Cody
So good.
Gavin
That's how. That's how they've arrogantly approached the last few weeks, is that they don't understand that concept. But in terms of an opponent, this is now a three and a half point line. The market corrected it. Home field advantage in that sport for a stadium like four right now look like four. It's about three and a half in that sport. So like essentially a coin flip game in the eyes of the odds makers. And I can't wait to watch it. I went to Kyle Field four years ago, Mario. Crystal ball, Year one.
Chris Cody
Intimidating.
Gavin
Yeah. I will say that's like the best atmosphere I've ever been at for a game in terms of intimidation. And you feel the stadium rocking. Do you feel all 5,000 people, do.
Chris Cody
You feel like it's a good matchup for the Canes because this is a Texas A and M team that even going into that Texas game, we were looking at their schedule like, wow, they really only play in the bottom half of SEC teams. And then they played one of the better ones in Texas. They got their ass kicked.
Gavin
The defense has looked a little leaky here recently. South Carolina's not a Good team. They went up 30 at Kyle Field. The aforementioned. They're a line of scrimmage team, so they play into some of Miami strengths. I think Miami's playing their best ball and I don't think Texas A and M is helping their cause because I got about a 24 hour expiration date on being happy to be here. Before we turn our attention to Texas A and M and they've already been out there talking. You have an old lineman saying, we don't have to worry about Reuben Bane.
Chris Cody
That was. That's something.
Gavin
He's not a player that we have to worry about.
Chris Cody
He was asked about, you know, how are you going to stop Ruben Bane? He's one of the top. He's going to be one of the top picks to have like a guy like. Chuckles like, we're not worried about him.
Gavin
Yeah. And Mike Elko, head coach. Head coach Mike Elko said that little freshman slot that they have there is a nice player. Okay. All right, we'll find out together.
Stugats
Mike, now remind me, is Texas A and M the school with the guy who talks like this?
Gavin
Yeah. No, we have to. I think Chris Cody and I have to run it back.
Stugats
Yeah.
Gavin
Four years later hello, old friend.
Chris Cody
And by the way. And by the way, look, I don't want to get ahead myself, okay? But the winner of Miami, Texas A and M, you know who they play?
Stugats
Who?
Chris Cody
Ohio State.
Gavin
You want. You want to get. You want to get revenge? Have you seen what this revenge tour could be?
Chris Cody
You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts.
Gavin
All right. If Miami goes to Kyle Field and does something that they couldn't do four years ago, which is beat Texas A and M there. Remember, Miami did trounce Texas A and M the following year as one of Tyler Van Dyke's better games. But if they beat Texas A and M, as you mentioned, they go to the Cotton bowl against Ohio State. So we'll have all those Fiesta bowl highlights. And that's revenge. That has been on Miami's hearts and minds. Every supporter of the Miami Hurricanes has been wanting to see that matchup. If they get past Ohio State. Speaking of the Fiesta bowl, they exercise those demons and it could potentially be Carson Beck against the Georgia Bulldogs. And then there was a way that this bracket shakes out, that if Miami were to somehow go through that murderer's rope, because there isn't a tougher path for a team to get to the final than the Miami Hurricanes. But if they do, it's in their home stadium.
Chris Cody
That's right.
Gavin
In Miami Gardens and Potentially they could be taking on the Oregon Ducks.
Stugats
Mario Crystal Ball's old school there is.
Gavin
Quite the revenge tour path here.
Chris Cody
I was gonna say quite possibly they could be taking on James Madison.
Gavin
No one believes.
Amin
Hell yeah, they did.
Gavin
Dude, when you were watching that James Madison game where you're like, I probably shouldn't have come out that defense in.
Amin
The second half strong against Troy. I'm just excited there's two group of five teams in this playoff. How about that?
Gavin
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Gavin
Don LeBatard, you're getting started on the breakfast flan.
Stugats
Oh man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long. Breakfast Flan stewgats. Have you never heard the breakfast flan?
Chris Cody
No.
Gavin
Hit me with it.
Stugats
Okay. I wish I had some breakfast Fl.
Where can I find a breakfast like that?
Chris Cody
This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugach.
We're all very excited. But you know what? A lot of other things happened over the weekend. There was a lot going on. Amin. Let's do some weekend observations transition. It is time for, I mean, to share his game notes. No one in the media will tell you what happened better than my boy Amin.
Stugats
Weekend observations is presented by Miller Lite Zaz after a couple week absence, including the Internet connection fiasco of last week, which for some reason seemed to really grip both the audience and the show. It's a bad Internet connection. You guys act like it's the first time it's ever happened. Guess what? I'm back. I woke up this morning half expecting the Chiefs miraculously pulled it off somehow. Death of a dynasty. Will Taylor Swift write a song about Kansas City's failed relationship with success? Mahomes 14:33 and three interceptions. Someone check on Nick Wright. Thank God the CFP is set. Miami made it so we can finally shut the up about it.
Notre Dame. Grow up. Someone check on Smetty. How about them Finns? Gutsy, relentless. Proving Greg Cody right. Don't bend the knee. Someone check on Greg Cody. By the way, Desmond Bain was the second most accurate quarterback in New York yesterday. He hit Anunoby right between the numbers. You not see this?
Chris Cody
I did, but like what's his deal?
Stugats
You know, my favorite part was he beans him and then he turns and he goes our ball. He points, he points. And then surprised. Ananobi's pissed off, like, what's up?
Chris Cody
But it sounded like he was like, you could have just taken the ball and started a fast break.
Stugats
No, I don't know. I don't know what that was about.
Chris Cody
Second time he's done that this year.
Stugats
Yeah, Things you learn about a guy when he gets out of Memphis. The NFL always has the most unbelievable injury reports. It'd be like player X lobotomy upgraded to questionable. Who the is Riley Leonard? Good to see Mike Tomlin and the Steelers make it out of Baltimore alive.
Gavin
You don't know who Riley Leonard is?
Stugats
No, who that former Irish. I don't know who that's.
Gavin
He made it to the national title game. He played very well for the Irish.
Stugats
I don't watch college football like that. What's college football? Knock knock.
Chris Cody
Who's there?
Stugats
Pittsburgh Steelers.
Chris Cody
Steelers who?
Stugats
Pittsburgh Steelers made it out of Baltimore alive. I'm not very good at knock knock jokes. Don't look now, but here come the Celtics playing well.
Dan Le Batard
Jaylen Brown.
Gavin
Get out of here.
Dan Le Batard
My God.
Stugats
Dan legitimately wondered if the FIFA World cup draw would have as many viewers as Cowboys Lions. A billion people tuned in worldwide to the World cup draw. But yeah, I'm sure it fell a little south of Thursday night football. Is he serious?
Dan Le Batard
It was a big game on Thursday night football.
Stugats
Like I felt this. He wasn't doing show. He was sincere. It's like, do you think as Many people that watch Cowboys, Lions watch the World cup draw. Like, Dan, are you.
Chris Cody
Do we have an actual number on.
Stugats
The World cup draw? It's a billion. Billion? It's north of a billion.
Chris Cody
What is that, like in share in TV? Like a billion?
Gavin
All the TVs.
Stugats
All of it.
Gavin
I think that's a 10 share.
Globally.
Stugats
The Cardinals defense gave up 530 total yards to the Rams at one point. I think Eric Dickerson rushed for a game. Guys, I think FIFA might be rigged. I got tickets.
Amin
Tickets.
Stugats
Thanks to Mike put me on my tickets. Turned out to be for group B, which is Canada, Qatar and Switzerland.
Now it's personal. You bastards got nothing. How do you get in an elevator? Press L for lobby and then walk right out when it stops at 15 and, like, not notice. These people do this all the time. I'm like, you thought this was the lobby. You're that into your phone that you. You didn't hear the thing yell out 15.
Chris Cody
Like, can't you feel that you only.
Stugats
Went down one floor every day in this building especially. I can't believe Dan let Miro refer to Jeter as Jeets. I try to jump in, I'm like, what we gonna do this? Everyone just listened quietly to the story. Frauds. News came out that Chris Paul and Ty Lue hadn't talked in weeks. Weeks. You know how miserable of an asshole you gotta be for T. Lou to be avoided? This is not a guy who's like, oh, conflict. Here's an idea for Vince Gilligan. Pluribus. But Cass, Chris Paul, the world population will be decimated midway through episode two. You guys remember when I pitched Vince Gilligan the idea of a Gilligan's island reboot and he liked it? That made Dan mad. Those are the days.
Dan Le Batard
Simpler times.
Stugats
He was so upset. Who the is Brady Cook.
Kevin Stefanski. Get that resume ready, buddy. You see this?
Chris Cody
Yeah. What was that play?
Stugats
That's the old, like, oh, you're not the best guy. I'm the guy who makes the wins happen.
Chris Cody
Like, Shadur, by all accounts, was pretty good yesterday. Yeah, how about let him throw the ball in that play?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Stugats
What? Like, why? Why Galaxy brain. This one. Pete Carroll. Mark Stein reporting that the Bucs are not entertaining Giannis trade offers. Yeah, right. Mark Stein reporting that Heat would have to give up Khalil Ware in a Giannis trade. Okay, what, Tyler hero in a box of Cracker Jacks wasn't enough cracker jacks? 20. CB Steve Kerr on benching Jonathan Kaminga in the fourth quote, it happens to Everyone in the league except for the stars, unquote. Ouch. He said you're a bum. LeBron James. Turn back the clock performance. Who the is Brandon Carlson?
Trick question. He plays for the Thunder, I think.
Dan Le Batard
What guy? 18 on the bench, I think.
Stugats
So here's the science A Bar Rescue podcast We teamed up restaurant and bar consult Chelsea Reynolds and commercial, kitchen and food truck veteran Colin Cassard with two world class bar patrons, that's Zach Harper and myself, to analyze and review episodes of Bar Rescue.
Gavin
I love, really, I love the attributes. Yeah, say that again. Put for you and Zach.
Stugats
Well, restaurant and bar consultant Chelsea Reynolds, commercial, kitchen and food truck veteran Colin Cassard.
Gavin
Actual bonafides right there.
Stugats
And two world class bar patrons.
Dan Le Batard
Zach Harper, you're world class.
Gavin
Actually play on for me. You are. You're an expert when it comes to bars.
Stugats
I'm a patron. I do it every Tuesday wherever you get podcasts. I'm gonna run this one back since I didn't get to do it live last week. To the couple in the aisle seats at the end of the row at Nugget Suns. You can't sit in the aisle seats and be annoyed that people in the row might get up and go to the bathroom or get concessions or whatever. Similarly, you can't be annoyed when set people in the row who got up to go to the bathroom or get concessions or whatever return from that journey. You especially can't be annoyed when this happens during halftime.
Chris Cody
Oh, come on.
Dan Le Batard
Like I thought.
Chris Cody
I thought they were getting annoyed when it was during play.
Gavin
No way.
Stugats
Got up to go and then at the end of halftime after having done the deed, come back like, what did you think I was going forever crazy. Also, stand up when people walk through. You don't want to catch an errant hog to the face. Keep it kosher.
Chris Cody
Wait, so when you walk past, you front face them?
Stugats
Absolutely. If you don't get up, that's crazy. If you don't get up, you're getting hogged.
Chris Cody
You front face as you're scooting past.
Stugats
If you refuse to get up when someone is walking through the aisle, I have the freedom to point my hog in any direction.
Chris Cody
That's wild. That's wild.
Stugats
You know what's wild? Not standing up.
Chris Cody
I agree, but you know what's wild?
Stugats
Not standing up and acting annoyed.
Chris Cody
Front face while you scoot past. That's wild.
Stugats
Juju. Put it on the pole. Is it okay to front face while you pass someone in an aisle? OkC Sat SGA Isaiah Hartenstein, Lou Dort, Alex Caruso and Isaiah Joe. That's a starting five caliber lineup right there. And they were still 11 and a half point favorites going in.
Dan Le Batard
Crazy.
Stugats
They won by 30.
Chris Cody
Yeah, but if the Knicks add some bench, you know, contender.
Stugats
Jesus Christ. What the hell was he talking about? No, no, not yet. Not yet, not yet. 231 this week on Cinevobe episode 292 collateral damage. A movie that Roy let me know was supposed to come out on 911 and then got pushed. Found out later that not only was it delayed, they had to edit it. Including a scene where Sofia Vergara plays a terrorist who hijacks a plane.
Chris Cody
Same thing happened at 24. It was supposed to debut that month. They had to push it back.
Stugats
Yeah, and an ad with Arnold Schwarzenegger's face with an explosion behind it. And the tagline, what would you do if you lost everything? Bad timing, Cinefo. Wherever you get podcasts, shout out to Santos, who's at MMA hangout the other night. Saturday night, Cinepo fan Will Hardy telling his team during a timeout that the music ran out. Oh, there it is. Will Hardy telling his team during a timeout quote, I'm tired of doing this every game. I feel you, bro. We're all trapped in our own personal hells. His just comes with millions of dollars. Speaking of hell, Art Briles those are the weekend observations.
Chris Cody
Good job, Amin.
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Gavin
The World cup is coming back to North America for the first time since 9448 teams, these giant stadiums, the whole continent turning into one massive party. I cannot wait. But actually getting tickets to any of this? Yeah, that part is brutal. That's why the gametime app has been a total lifesaver. It gives the advantage back to us, the fans. You can track price drops in real time, get alerts when seats open up, grab tickets the second they hit the app, all backed by the game time guarantee. I'm on the app looking at World cup matches in Miami because you know I'm not missing that. I'm scrolling through every section in the building behind the goal midfield, lower bowl, upper bowl, and the deals are good. I had great seats locked in within minutes. The experience is so simple and intuitive. Two taps and I'm done. And the price? No surprises. Fees are included. The seat views are my favorite feature. You get a full panoramic look before you buy. And I love zone deals. Gametime picks a seat and you save even more. Take the guesswork out of buying soccer tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account and use code DAN for $20 off. Your first purchase terms apply again. Create an account and redeem code Dan for $20 off. Swipe, tap Ticket. Go download the Gametime app today.
Chris Cody
Don LeBatard John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard Scene in Carlito's Way. If I do it for you, I think it's pretty good.
Amin
Yeah.
Stugats
Okay.
Gavin
Stugats.
Chris Cody
You think you're big time.
Or you're.
Notre Dame Fan/Commentator
Gonna die big time.
Amin
That is on my infamous scale of.
Gavin
1 to 10, that's a, that's a 7.6.
Stugats
Solid.
Gavin
Good job, dad. Good suing nominee right there.
Chris Cody
This is the D Ler show with the St. GS.
So I, I, I caught a bunch of the World cup draw on Friday.
Stugats
The Karaka.
Chris Cody
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and then, like, I put the channel back on like, two hours later and weren't even close to done.
Gavin
It was an embarrassment. We, we knew that show can go long, but the programming, I mean.
Stugats
Well, you didn't like the FIFA Peace Prize, who won, by the way?
Gavin
I didn't like that. I didn't like the, the audible that they called to have the world leaders come out and pull their own countries just for the photo op. It was a Johnny Infantino show and.
Chris Cody
Like, Buddy led the crowd and chant.
Gavin
Wasn'T a fan of the Rio Ferdinand comedy sketches. Just.
Stugats
What was that?
Gavin
Two hours into it, everybody was like, just pick the damn team.
Stugats
What was that?
Gavin
I don't know.
Stugats
Like, whose idea was that?
Gavin
I don't know. I didn't stick around. I honestly left. I'm a soccer fan. I was looking forward to this whole thing. And once I, once we got about 70 minutes into it and I was already, like, shown Donald Trump and Johnny Infantino multiple times when I don't want to see them at all, I was like, all right, I'll just Google it afterwards. But, hey, the United States got a good draw.
Chris Cody
Did they get a good draw?
Stugats
All the host countries got really nice draws.
Gavin
Funny how that works. I mean. But yeah, like, this was probably the best case scenario. You have Panama, which will be the United States first match. They have Australia team that they should beat. Now, Turkey has beaten the United States recently. Odds on favor for them to come out of that playoff. We will wait to see who does. Turkey can probably give the United States some problems, but the United States is a host nation that does give teams some boost, and it lays out quite nicely here, setting up potentially a rematch against Belgium in the World Cup. Again, not the same type of talented Belgium side. So if you're a United States fan or just a casual observer that wants a root on Old Glory, it lays out quite nicely for you. And if you want tickets and you're just. Or maybe you're just stuck with Canada.
Stugats
Qatar, I'm so upset. I was so. Because I'm watching this poll and I'm like, okay, it's cool, it's cool.
Amin
All right.
Stugats
And then I'm like, you gotta give me something here. Yeah. And the third one came out. My only hope is, I guess if.
Gavin
Italy wins, well, maybe you can upload those tickets on game time.
Stugats
There you go.
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Amin
Now.
Stugats
Guys, I'm surprised that Chris Paul didn't pull the ultimate move when he was asked to fly home. Have you guys ever heard this story about Ty Lawson? When Ty Lawson was towards the end of his time in Denver, they reached a point where he was inactive, but they would go on the trip. You go on the trip and just enjoy whatever city. So the Nuggets allegedly created a new rule. If you're not on the active roster, you can't go on the trip. But they did it right before they were going to go to play, I think the Lakers and obviously in the NBA. The LA trip is like, that's gold. Like you're setting excursions up months in advance.
Chris Cody
Especially because you usually stop for the Lakers and Clippers.
Stugats
A lot of times it's a long break.
Dan Le Batard
You're sending the advanced scouts out there to make sure things are kosher when you get there.
Stugats
We have programming done ahead of time. And so to be told right before that trip, oh, you ain't going. Ty Lawson allegedly was so upset he booked his own flight, then bought tickets to Nuggets, Lakers and sat courtside. And I was like, Chris Paul should have done that. He should have bought courtside tickets and sat there.
Amin
That would have been amazing.
Stugats
And just heckled and second guessed everything that the Clippers were doing.
Chris Cody
Wasn't Ty Lue caught recently? There was some video footage that came out where he was talking trash about.
Stugats
CP3 after they were released. No, that's the stuff that I'm really, really starting to get annoyed with. The about is like, we're going to take things completely out of context. Like when the Lakers played the Mavericks about a week or so ago and they're like, look, LeBron didn't even dap up Anthony Davis. He dapped him up literally right before that video was cut and clipped. And the bad part was it was propagated by ESPN la. Like you Guys have to know better. Like, you can't just be sharing shit like, you guys were at the game. Why would that be something that you miss? But then you're just going to aggregate whatever's shared out there. But no, it's. It's. They were talking about a play, and I guess I want to say Chris Dunn couldn't remember something about the play. So Chris Paul was telling James Harden about that. And then Ty Lou was basically saying, it doesn't matter what the play is called. F. Because it's called CP or whatever. It doesn't matter what it's called. Just run this play like this, no matter who's on the floor. But again, it's cut and put out in the context. Like, he's talking trash.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugats
About Chris Paul. Even though Chris Paul was right there.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Stugats
This wasn't like, after the fight.
Chris Cody
Oh, really?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Stugats
That was like, from. From training camp, that video.
Amin
Oh, I just love the idea of Chris Paul being at the game. And like, Chris Dunn bricks a shot.
Gavin
And he's like, yo, Ty, I told you you shouldn't get so many minutes.
Amin
Like, just yelling from. From courtside.
Stugats
I got it even better than that. You must be in help. You supposed to be like, what are you doing coaching? Oh, my God.
Amin
Courtside.
Stugats
What? The whole. You guys see the whole thing with Chris Haynes, he came out on Amazon prime and he said, Chris Paul tweeted the word leeway. Or Instagram storied the word leeway. The definition of the word leeway. And the reason for that is there was a game where someone.
Chris Cody
Van Gundy. Right.
Stugats
Well, Chris Paul changed the coverage. He told Kawhi to switch or whatever. And Van Gundy afterwards said, don't ever do that. And he says to him, you might have had the leeway to do that and other stops in your career. You do not have that leeway now, which is like, that's pretty cold.
Chris Cody
Even though they're a terrible defensive team. But that's Van Gundy's thing. He's like the defensive guy there.
Stugats
I mean, they were excellent last year because of Van Gundy and ultimately the coaches. That's a coach's approach. It's like, hey, if I come up with a scheme and we execute the scheme and we're terrible, that's my fault. But if you guys start freestyling, ad libbing and audibling, then we'll never know what works and what doesn't work. And so that staff, a lot of people came out very anti clipper. I'm like, you got Ty Lue, really good coach, pretty respected guy. His associate head coach is Jeff Van Gundy, Very respected guy, former head coach in this league. Then you got Larry Drew, former head coach in this league. Then you got Brian Shaw, former head coach in this league. Then you got Jay Laranaga. Was a head coach on the collegiate level. It's like he doesn't have like a young, inexperienced staff that really needs a Chris Paul to be chiming in every and second guessing everything. They got a pretty good staff and.
Chris Cody
The best player on the team is two time finals mvp.
Dan Le Batard
Like, so what's the issue? What's the issue with the Clippers?
Stugats
Why are they bad?
Gavin
Yeah.
Stugats
Oh, because, like, they've been hurt. Oh, they're old and they're old. Like, the game passes by their off season.
Dan Le Batard
But they were so good. They were so good last year to close the year out. It was like, okay, wait a second, second.
Chris Cody
The Clippers started finding, you know what, one of their best players plays to the Heat.
Amin
That's right.
Dan Le Batard
Again, Norman Powell is the glue that kept the entire team together.
Stugats
You know what's crazy? Flying in the MIA, walking past that, my Miami Heat store and seeing Heat 24 jerseys. I'm like, what? At the airport?
Dan Le Batard
Pow.
Chris Cody
If we can get back to the NFL here. So yesterday the Bengals and Bills played in a snowstorm. And for the life of me, because I turned away from the game for like a few minutes. I turned away from the game when. And you know, the Bengals went ahead 28, 18, I think the score was. And there was like nine minutes left in the game. And five minutes later, they were down 3,828. The hell happened there?
Dan Le Batard
Our Briles Burrow threw one of the worst picks that I've ever seen anybody throw.
Chris Cody
One of them was a pick six.
Dan Le Batard
It was a pick six. But he tried to throw a screen pass at Jamar Chase that I don't know if he lost the ball.
Gavin
I don't know, like, snowing. Sure.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. But he had thrown the. The dime that he threw to Tee.
Chris Cody
But he was good all game before that.
Dan Le Batard
Yes, he was right. That's what I'm saying.
Chris Cody
Like, and the blizzard was in the first step, by the way.
Dan Le Batard
Right? So he throws like a shot put, like what we call in Spanish, un glowito, which is a balloon. Unglovito. He throws up and Bennifer just like goes up, picks it off and runs it 55 yards to the house. But it was like such a bad pass. And I was like, who is that, Zaz?
Stugats
You may not know this, but it's actually warmer while it's snowing. When it stops snowing, it starts getting really.
Chris Cody
No, but it'll be harder to throw the ball when it is snowing.
Stugats
It's harder when it's cold. Man, my hands. Yeah, you can't feel your hands.
Chris Cody
I don't know about watching.
Dan Le Batard
And then Josh Allen had like a 65 yard touchdown run too.
Chris Cody
Yeah. So the Bills, like, I guess keep their playoff hopes alive because they're by no means they'll lock. I mean. And the Bengals take a major, major, I guess a major dip with their ninth loss this season. They really need to win their final four games, win the division. Only chance in. I mean, you saw the. The Steelers and the Ravens yesterday. An abomination of a game. But still the Steelers, they wind up going back over.500 here.
Dan Le Batard
And then the catch, by the way.
Chris Cody
I don't think so.
Dan Le Batard
You don't think so? Two, two feet and then the ball gets taken out.
Chris Cody
I don't think so.
Gavin
I mean, he processed. Right. But I thought.
Dan Le Batard
Process the catch. But I thought he caught it.
Gavin
Thought it was a catch. But the NFL got more fascinating. For me, that was an Alamo game as it was described for the Chiefs and I.
Chris Cody
Can you believe.
Gavin
Let's just rewind. Two months ago.
Chris Cody
How are the Texans winning games? That seems good.
Gavin
Their defense has gotten better and better as a season.
Dan Le Batard
Their corners are the best tandem in the league.
Gavin
I want to focus like we haven't. I know the University of Miami has really hijacked this show, but we're kind of largely ignoring what's happening with the pro team because we don't expect much. But here they are with the same exact record as the Kansas City Chiefs.
Stugats
Hey, man, I'm telling you, we're a couple of wins away from Greg Cody hitting his preseason predictions.
Chris Cody
Yeah, but there, there's, there's, there's really no way into the playoffs. They're two back of the final playoffs.
Gavin
I mean, it's them. I know they've been getting fat off of bad teams. They're going to have to win some. Some big games against better teams.
Chris Cody
I think they'll win next week Monday night in Pittsburgh. I mean, the weather could be rough. I don't know. I think they could win that game. But then the final three games, very rough.
Gavin
And now Tampa needs that one. Right? Very rough. That was a really.
Chris Cody
And New England's gonna need the final game to hold off Denver for the top spot. But can the Dolphins outscore the Bengals in Sunday Night Football, which could be flexed out, but I don't believe they can because you saw the Dolphins quarterback yesterday, and he's horrific. So I think the Dolphins realistically have a chance at one more win this season.
Gavin
For me, the headline from the NFL day was, what's happened to the Kansas City Chiefs? Does that feel like a death blow to their chances? They've gone to nine straight AFC championship games. Are we seeing a changing of the guard or at least the. The end of this incarnation of the Chiefs? But I want to turn my eyes over to the nfc. Oh, Green Bay is getting Watson back and Jaden Reed back at the same time. Josh Jacobs was incredible as that game went on. That was super impressive. And I've been. I've been a huge Jaden Reed guy. You have Watson making the big chunk plays down the field, looking super healthy now, but Jaden Reed is their go to guy. He makes something out of nothing. And that now that they have those two guys, there's. I'm feeling good about my preseason Packer ticket, Tony.
Dan Le Batard
My. My thing is this. I looked to the other side of the ball in that game and I was like, man, the Bears, they had this, like, scrappiness about them. They were playing good defense. Caleb Williams felt like he had things going, you know, getting together.
Chris Cody
Such a bad throw.
Dan Le Batard
And now I just look at terrible throw at the end of the game that obviously cost him the game. But I look at him, I'm like, is he just being propped up by a really good oc? The same way we're looking across the, at the lines now I'm being like, okay, they got good pieces.
Chris Cody
I don't think that's fair because you're talking about being propped up by a really good oc. He's only in a second.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, okay.
Stugats
But you got to be good early. Especially when you look at what's happened to Lions since said oc. Left, right, right.
Dan Le Batard
Like, they have. They have great players, which is why things work. I'm on Rossane Brown, Jameer Gibbs, but, like, Goff is not the same golf that he was last year.
Chris Cody
Why does Caleb Williams need to be a finished product in year two?
Dan Le Batard
Because everybody needs to be a finished product immediately. Like, that's the issue.
Stugats
Now we look at, are you new here?
Dan Le Batard
Now we look at Jaden Daniels and you're like, okay, now a season lost injury and a season loss to a lot of injuries across the the team, but it's like, he's got to be great next year or else is he done like C.J. stroud, great year one. And now we're questioning him, too. Like, Caleb's net, like, never really put it together. They bring in Ben Johnson now he's got this team playing well, but now you play again, a team against that, that they have a rivalry with, rivalry with in the division, and they do that, and it's like, ugh.
Stugats
Jaden Daniels is who my weekend observation by injury reports is about three weeks, missed three games. Dislocated elbow. I'm like, it doesn't sound like you should be playing football, bro. You had a dislocated elbow.
Dan Le Batard
How about the one on MMA and ufc?
Stugats
Oh, man.
Dan Le Batard
Alexander Pantoja. Did you see that, Zaz?
Chris Cody
Nah.
Dan Le Batard
Did you see the exploded elbow?
Chris Cody
Nah, nah.
Amin
Even I know about that. Everybody's talking about that. Even Shane Gillis.
Chris Cody
Nah, man, you'll know about that.
Dan Le Batard
The exploded elbow was brutal. Went to catch himself. You remember when Rondo went to catch himself in the playoffs a couple years ago and his elbow bent backwards? Imagine that.
Gavin
But, like, yeah, I remember Wade got.
Chris Cody
Blamed, and then he took that ass.
Episode: Hour 2: The Miami Revenge Tour
Date: December 8, 2025
Broadcasting from downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their crew dissect a wild weekend in sports, with a heated focus on the Miami Hurricanes' playoff drama, college football’s selection controversies, Notre Dame’s outrage, and the NFL’s shifting power dynamics. The show is lively, irreverent, and full of the cast’s trademark banter and ranting. They blend local Miami sports pride with pointed national commentary, especially taking aim at Notre Dame, playoff committees, and baffling college football logic.
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The episode is high-energy, sarcastic, and freewheeling—classic for Le Batard and Stugotz. The group deftly intertwines Miami-centric enthusiasm with broader criticism and mockery of sports institutions, especially the college football playoff system and the outsized influence (and petulance) of Notre Dame. Rants and bits, especially the “Weekend Observations” and “Revenge Tour” hype, give the show its signature absurd yet insightful style. For Miami fans and sports cynics alike, it’s a raucous, cathartic listen.