Hour 2: The Poors (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz Episode: Hour 2: The Poors (feat. Jessica Smetana) Release Date: July 9, 2025

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve into a myriad of topics ranging from sports controversies and pop culture to personal anecdotes and listener interactions. Featuring guest Jessica Smetana, the show masterfully navigates through pressing issues, humorous exchanges, and insightful discussions, all while maintaining its signature South Florida flair.

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Guest Appearance and Parenting Conundrum

[03:08] The episode kicks off with Jessica Smetana joining the hosts to discuss a compelling parenting dilemma: a 16-year-old boy informing his parents about attending a UFC fight out of state without prior permission. This sparks a debate among the hosts and listeners about parental authority and teenage independence.

• Dan Le Batard: “There doesn’t appear to be any authority in the house if your 16-year-old is informing you that he's doing this instead of asking for permission.”

• Tony: “My parents would never, ever let me get on a flight out of state without their express written consent.”

The conversation highlights the balance between granting trust and maintaining control, with hosts weighing in on the potential risks and responsibilities involved.

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Wheel of Issues: Spinning Through Diverse Topics

The segment titled "Wheel of Issues" introduces a dynamic way to tackle multiple subjects. Each spin brings a new topic, fostering lively discussions and differing perspectives among the hosts.

1. Joe Burrow and the Batmobile

[07:16] The wheel lands on Joe Burrow's decision not to purchase a Batmobile, a topic that blends celebrity culture with financial feasibility.

• Tony: “Joe Burrow will not be getting a Batmobile, which, to be honest with you, this is a real bummer.”

• Chris Cody: “I didn't know there was such a thing as a $3 million car.”

The conversation humorously examines the extravagance of celebrity purchases and the practicality behind such decisions.

2. Lightning Delay in Baseball

[08:45] The next spin addresses a controversial call in baseball where a pitcher was balked due to a lightning strike.

• Zaslow: “Everybody jumped. Mother Nature gives Jacksonville a run.”

• Dan Le Batard: “This is loser mentality.”

The hosts debate the fairness of the umpire’s decision, exploring the intersection of natural events and sports regulations.

3. Christian Horner's Departure from Red Bull

[11:47] A significant portion is dedicated to the sudden sacking of Christian Horner, the long-time team principal of Red Bull Racing in Formula One.

• Tony: “Horner was embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal last year that a lot of people thought he should have been sacked over.”

• Mike Ryan: “This feels like a move to keep Max happy.”

The discussion delves into the implications of Horner's departure, the internal dynamics of Red Bull Racing, and the broader impacts on the Formula One landscape.

4. Scott Frost's Job Move

[27:05] The wheel then points to Scott Frost, former Nebraska football coach, and his reflections on his tenure.

• Chris Cody: “It was one of the biggest disasters anywhere in college football.”

• Dan Le Batard: “He said, 'don't take the wrong job.'”

The hosts critique Frost's managerial decisions and their repercussions, touching upon accountability and leadership in sports.

5. Asia Wilson's Wrist Injury

[20:13] The topic shifts to Asia Wilson, a prominent player in her league, who recently suffered a wrist injury during a crucial game.

• Tony: “She went down pretty hard, fell on both of her wrists, exited the game, was in tears.”

• Dan Le Batard: “They really need Asia Wilson and I don't know how long she's going to be out.”

The discussion emphasizes the impact of key injuries on team dynamics and championship prospects.

6. TSA's Shoe Policy Change

[22:44] The final spin addresses the recent policy change by TSA, allowing travelers not to remove their shoes during security checks.

• Dan Le Batard: “It was like security theater for the longest time.”

• Tony: “If you wear your shoes and go through those scanners, like, wouldn't those scanners detect anything hidden in your shoes?”

The hosts analyze the effectiveness and motivations behind the policy shift, debating its necessity and practicality.

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UFC Sparring Session Controversy

[30:03] A heated discussion unfolds regarding a failed sparring session between host Tony and UFC fighter Brad Tavares. The incident raises questions about honesty, professionalism, and the authenticity of content creation.

• Dan Le Batard: “Tony displayed some level of leadership in his lies... outrageous lies don't get back to the people you're lying about.”

• Jessica: “I was just trying to get mentally ready to fight somebody who's a killer.”

The hosts express frustration over perceived deceit and the implications it has on their credibility with the audience.

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Notable Quotes

• Dan Le Batard ([19:15]): “The Lightning aren't shit to me. They're not a formidable foe. They're a joke.”

• Jessica Smetana ([32:11]): “I was sent messages from Reddit that I never check. And I saw that Justin on Still Friends had Brad on, and something had happened.”

• Tony ([12:44]): “Christian Horner has been at Red Bull for 20 years. This is pretty, pretty surprising.”

• Mike Ryan ([25:20]): “What's the extra pair of socks for? Like, her socks get dirty from touching the floor, then she changes socks.”

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Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a blend of serious analysis and lighthearted banter, ensuring listeners are both informed and entertained. From dissecting high-profile sports decisions to navigating the complexities of personal responsibilities, the hosts and their guest provide a comprehensive look into the multifaceted world of sports and culture. The dynamic interactions and candid discussions underscore the show's ability to tackle diverse topics while maintaining an engaging and relatable tone.

Transcript

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

Chris Cody, would you be kind enough please to put the finishing touches on that new wheel of issues that Meadowlark has had built for Jessica? Because Jessica is appearing here on Wednesdays and I want to make sure that we've got the wheel ready for when it is that she arrives. Can we play also the Boost Mobile hotline recordings that we have? The Telephone number is 305-486-GETTS, gotz is 4689, so the telephone number. If you have any thoughts hot takes that can be provided to you by Boost Mobile, 305-486-4689. Here's the latest installment from Boost Mobile.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

First time.

[Cletus]

Laugh time. My hottest take is that if Jeremy's dream vacation is to go to Pittsburgh, he means Better Dreams Ltd. Mars Simpson, homie. Hi. First time, long time. Why isn't anybody talking about how Bill Zito has done more in Miami in the last five years than Pat Riley has ever done in 30? I'll hang up and listen. Alexander Madison. My name is Alexander Madison. Hi there, first time, long time. This is Dan from Rochester on a mobile. My hot take is that the worst thing that you could ask anyone to do is to help you move. Just hire movers. I'll hang up and listen. Hey, this is Bobby on a Mobile Kansas City area. My boldest take is that corn dogs are a poor man's version of the beef Wellington.

[Jessica]

I'll hang up and listen.

[Cletus]

Hey, this is Cletus in the bar. I was just wondering If I'd notice all these body spray commercials on the tv. When did women start stinking? I don't know. I'll just hang up and listen.

[Chris Cody]

A truly terrible batch of calls. Put it on the poll at Lebatard show is the worst thing can do to a friend asking them to help you move at Lebatard show. Can you. Before we spin Jessica's new, newly minted wheel of issues, Zaz, can you please set up for the audience? You created a great stir yesterday with your parenting conundrum. I'd like to present it to Jessica. Where are you on your 16 year old informing you that he was leaving the state to go to a UFC fight? He had already bought his tickets, bought his plane ticket, and was just going without asking permission. He was just informing you.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, so I'm not doing shtick here, all right? I'm being, I'm being serious. And we discussed it yesterday. Everyone seems to be adamantly against me and my wife allowing this. I got so many messages on social media. Guys hit me up at Zaslow show, and everyone is like, nah, this is really stupid if you're going to allow this. So again, like I said, I'm not doing shtick here. We where I, I, I, I became pretty uncomfortable yesterday with it. Like, I, I didn't like the response. I didn't like how it all made me feel. And I talked to my wife when I got home yesterday, and we're like, we, we gotta find a way to not allow this to happen. Cause I don't like it, Zaz.

[Jessica]

So wait a second. You're talking about UFC 318 at the smoothie King center in New Orleans?

[Zaslow]

No, no, no. In Chicago next month.

[Jessica]

Oh, okay. I was gonna say that's a massive one still.

[Zaslow]

But Chicago, Chicago is a big one too. My son loves ufc. Is the reason why he's showing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course they should come down to the car.

[Jessica]

If you're talking about Poirier versus Max Holloway, though, you.

[Zaslow]

No, no, no.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not that one, bro.

[Chris Cody]

Jessica, what are your thoughts here? Do you have any advice for Zaslow? Because we were between, like, that was disrespectful. And there doesn't appear to be any authority in the house if your 16 year old is informing you that he's doing this instead of asking for permission.

[Tony]

Yeah, I mean, geez, there's a lot of red flags going on. I would say one thing. My parents would never, ever, ever let me get on a flight out of state. I would never even have an access to a Credit card where I could book a flight out of state to do anything without getting their express written consent. So that's where I would maybe side with this Tony.

[Jessica]

It's.

[Zaslow]

It's Duplicis versus That's a massive one, too.

[Jessica]

Now you got to let go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Massive.

[Jessica]

Hamza versus. You don't get it. I'm not talking to you.

[Zaslow]

My son loves all the Arab fighters.

[Jessica]

Hamza, he's from Russia. But, yes, Hamza versus DDP is a massive. Is a massive fight.

[Chris Cody]

We're going to spiel.

[Mike Ryan]

Get confusing sometimes.

[Chris Cody]

We're going to. Would you feel better or worse about.

[Dan Le Batard]

It if you sent Tony with them?

[Zaslow]

I know I'd feel better about it. Yes, Absolutely. As an adult.

[Jessica]

My little cousin. Dude, let's go. I would put money on Hans.

[Chris Cody]

I wouldn't feel better about that. I wouldn't feel a great.

[Jessica]

That's supposed to.

[Dan Le Batard]

As long as it's not a lens, he's in good hands.

[Chris Cody]

I would feel about the same if I was. If I was sending Tony.

[Zaslow]

You want to go, dude?

[Jessica]

I might.

[Chris Cody]

If Tony were around, I would not put my teenage son in the company. What are you guys laughing about? Back a lot. All right. You're not going to share any of it? Yes.

[Jessica]

I mean, they're right on the board. You know, it's the whole continent.

[Chris Cody]

All right, so the Wheel of Issues. I'm just going to inform Jessica and the rest of you what's on the Wheel of Issues, and Jessica will tell me what it's landed on. Okay, We've got the following on the Wheel of Issues. We've got Joe Burrows. Batmobile. Plans, they have changed. Scott Frost is now at UCF again. He said the Nebraska job. What did he learn? Don't take the wrong job. Asia Wilson has injured her wrist. The news from yesterday that you no longer have to take your shoes off at the airport. The surprise at Red Bull where the team principal is out. And then the thing we were talking about earlier today. Where do you call a balk on a pitcher who was startled by a lightning strike? Let's go ahead and spin the Wheel of Issues and see what it is that it lands on. That's new lighting. I can't see it from here. Jessica, what do you. What. What did it land on there?

[Tony]

Oh, well, I landed on the Batmobile. Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Joe Burrow bought what. What was it? One of six of the Batmobiles used in one of the Batman franchise movies.

[Tony]

Well, what happened is Joe Burrow told us he was going to buy one of the Batmobiles during Hard Knocks last year. And then, according to the new Netflix show Quarterbacks, he said since his home invasion, he's now decided to change his plans. He will not be getting a Batmobile, which, to be honest with you, this is a real bummer of a story. I kind of wanted to see Joe Burrow driving a Batmobile he was going.

[Zaslow]

To buy, the one that looks like a tank from Dark Knights.

[Chris Cody]

There were only. How many made? Do I have the number right when I say six? Because this was a. Wasn't this, like, a $3 million car that he had. He had bought. I didn't even know there was such a thing as a $3 million car, to be honest with you.

[Tony]

Yes, you did.

[Chris Cody]

No, I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know outside of F1. I imagine some of the cars in F1 are $3 million cars, but I didn't know that there was an automobile that a human being could purchase outside of Ra.

[Jessica]

Dan, you never heard of Bugatti?

[Chris Cody]

They're more than. They're $3 million. Yeah, okay. Sorry, Tony. I didn't.

[Mike Ryan]

You just hand him a card.

[Chris Cody]

And someone else figures outside of my pay range. Sorry. Did not know.

[Mike Ryan]

Black card.

[Tony]

Well, if you want to talk about F.1, we have to spin the wheel again.

[Chris Cody]

All right, let's spin the wheel again and see if Christian Horner ends up being on the wheel there. Let's see. I do want to talk F1, but the wheel answers to no one. What did it land on there, Jessica?

[Tony]

I landed on the. The Bach. So did you guys watch the video.

[Mike Ryan]

Clip of this we did in the first hour?

[Chris Cody]

Let's play it. Let's go ahead and play it. Let's play it again for Jessica.

[Cletus]

One and one.

[Chris Cody]

The count on Paulie.

[Zaslow]

A huge crash of lightning as Contreras kicked. And it's a balk. Wow.

[Chris Cody]

They're gonna call that a Balkan.

[Zaslow]

Everybody jumped. Mother Nature gives Jacksonville a run.

[Chris Cody]

I didn't think he was gonna say nature.

[Zaslow]

There's Argu, but I don't know how.

[Mike Ryan]

You can argue Mother in his broadcaster voice.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, Mother.

[Zaslow]

How do the broadcasters say, I don't know how you can argue with it?

[Chris Cody]

I love that Contreras immediately put up his hands like someone who was being held up at gunpoint. Like he's sort of pointing to the umpire. Come on. That's lightning. You can't call a balk on me there. What are your thoughts there, Jessica?

[Tony]

My thoughts are towards the end. Number three, when he runs in. Is he making fun of the picture? If you watch towards the end, he sort of does, like, this thing. And I don't know if he's making fun of himself being startled by the lightning or making fun of the pitcher, but that's my favorite part of this whole video.

[Chris Cody]

The pitcher backing off of the mound. Like, I have done nothing wrong. My hands are up. I am not armed right here.

[Tony]

He's like, wait for it. Wait for yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think he's kind of saying there, I did that, too.

[Mike Ryan]

Everybody did the. The guy in the batter's box tried to play it all cool. He was really scared. And then he was like, there's a buck, right?

[Chris Cody]

I think they should have called a balk on everyone on the field. They should have just called an assortment of box.

[Mike Ryan]

Everybody but the center.

[Chris Cody]

Just everybody.

[Zaslow]

They have a lightning delay.

[Chris Cody]

Like, it's an option. Not in the middle of a motion, though.

[Mike Ryan]

But that's a call if the umpire make the judgment.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, that was lightning.

[Mike Ryan]

They always call. I play pickup soccer. You hear a lightning strike like that, immediately the alarm goes off. Hey, everybody off the pitch. That's a call from the umpire. Hands up, everybody. Let's go into the dugout. This is dangerous. Not like, hey, let's stand here on this field. That is wide open with lightning. That is very clearly within range.

[Zaslow]

Where would the. Like. Where do you think the umpire would have let it go? Does it have to start hail? Like, do ice cubes have to fall from the sky onto people? Where it's like, all right, everybody, hold on a second to value.

[Chris Cody]

Well, let me ask the rest of you here, because I didn't notice this. Did the umpire also flinch? Because it would be funny if the umpire also flinched and then just pointed at the pitcher and blamed him for flinching.

[Mike Ryan]

I've been locked in trying to see, because I initially said that because everybody on the field did, but with all the padding and the mask on him, I got to give it to the umpire. Seems pretty calm and cool. The umpire's locked in, so if he's not fazed by it, then maybe I'm wrong.

[Chris Cody]

Umpire was waiting to call that balk. All his life. All his life, he's been waiting for that moment. Let's go ahead and spin the wheel again and see what else ends up being on the wheel. We got Scott Frost, that Asia Wilson, got shoes at the airport, got Red Bull. What did it land on there?

[Tony]

Oh, it actually landed on Red Bull this time. Yeah, Dan. So Christian Horner, the team principal CEO Whatever. At Red Bull. Red Bull. He was sacked. This morning I woke up to this news. A similar really to when the Pope died. A Mike Ryan Instagram dm informed me of this happening. So this is pretty shocking. He had been at red bull for 20 years. Some, some drivers whole lives, some of the younger drivers on the grid like haven't even been alive. In the pre Christian Horner era, he was a very controversial figure. I would say a lot of people are celebrating him being sacked from this team because he was embroiled in a sexual harassment scandal last year that a lot of people thought he should have been sacked over, which he wasn't. And then there's been this ongoing behind the scenes power struggle between him and Max Verstappen. And so amid rumors that maybe Verstappen was going to leave and the team was not performing well this season, the car was not performing well and they've had all sorts of issues with promoting younger drivers up to the second seat. He has been sacked. I don't know the official reason yet, but obviously all those things could be a factor in it and it's pretty, pretty surprising.

[Mike Ryan]

I have a couple questions on this. You mentioned Max Verstappen, the rumors circulating around him. Mercedes heavily rumored around Max Verstappen and reported animosity between the two. This feels like a move to keep Max happy. He won the poll last week. Doesn't even podium a disappointing race. So if they kept the, the pole position, do you think Horner stays?

[Tony]

Well, I think part of the other thing which I haven't mentioned yet, Mike, is that there's been a ton of talent that have left Red Bull, the Red Bull organization, most notably Adrian Newey who left for Aston Martin last year. And there has been a quite a considerable amount of turnover among some of the top positions there. So I don't think this is just like a thing that they decided because of the recent performance, but I do think the recent performance has really frustrated Max, who's obviously hyper competitive, wants to win every single race that he's in. And so if this is performance related, I don't know what last weekend could have really done for them.

[Mike Ryan]

Quickly, nerdy question on Formula One Nico Hulkenberg podium last week, which by everybody that follows the sport says this is a shocking development. Basically five drivers at most rotate amongst those podium positions. This is a huge upset. Can you put it in perspective?

[Tony]

God, I'm so bad at making analogies on my feet. Someone help me. So no, this is like, no, I can't.

[Chris Cody]

She can't put it in perspective. So while we're at it, I want to put on the poll at Lebatard Show. Do you enjoy when people are fired using the verb sacked? And also put it on the Polette Lebatard Show. Do you use the verb sacked anywhere other than football? Because I don't think that I've ever used the word sacked to say anything other than that's what a pass rusher does. I don't use it as a verb. But Jessica really seemed to enjoy saying that he was sacked and sacked over, and there was a lot of sacking going on.

[Tony]

I mean, it's very British, I think, to say sacked. And, you know, this is a very British sport. So I just went with the common parlance of formula one. It sounds like you guys are also getting sacked at the dermatologist, though.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll. Is Billy getting sacked at the dermatologist?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, they're asking if we'd like to.

[Jessica]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Thought that we were past the Lightning. I thought that we were better than the Lightning and we didn't give the Lightning any mind. This is loser mentality.

[Mike Ryan]

Last year's shirt was World War three. Yeah, our group chat has a good feeling about this.

[Dan Le Batard]

The Lightning. The Lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just going to come right out and tell you right now. We have surpassed the Lightning. They're not a formidable foe. They're a joke.

[Chris Cody]

St.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't take them seriously at all. Strike me by, Lightning. I don't care. Nothing's going to happen to me. Lightning are soft. I'm not giving them any mind. I'm not paying attention to them this series. On to the next round.

[Chris Cody]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug. Let's spin the wheel again, please, if you would. I will just tell the audience there's no reason for this, but Scott's frost at UCF has said, don't take the wrong job. Quote. I said I wouldn't leave UCF unless it was someplace you could win a national championship. I got tugged in a direction to try to help my alma mater and didn't really want to do it. It wasn't a good move. Oh, I didn't know whether it's. What. What did it land on?

[Tony]

No, I landed on Asia Wilson. So last night, Aces, Liberty, big, big, huge game. Even though the Aces are just not playing well this season, Asia Wilson's still been playing well because she's, you know, a top three player in the league. Top two player, probably. Well, top one, but probably. Nafisa Collier will be the MVP front runner for the rest of the season, as she has been. Anyways, she went down pretty hard, fell on both of her wrists, exited the game, was in tears. Well, she came back and shot her free throws, which was pretty awesome. But then left, went into the locker room. She looked like she was really upset. They're doing an MRI on her wrist is a pretty big deal. This is a team that, you know, probably would still be in the playoffs even despite their struggles and some of the shooting struggles they've had, especially at the guard position, but, well, and also at the. At the 5. It's been a rough season for the Aces. They really need Asia Wilson and I don't know how long she's going to be out the All Star Games next week. They did the draft last night. Oh, my God, Dan, it's. It's not looking good for Vegas right now.

[Chris Cody]

Jessica, I'm sorry to interrupt your segment here, but Mike just whispered in my ear that he happened to know something about Scott. Oh, my God. He knows.

[Jessica]

He happens to know.

[Mike Ryan]

Come, everyone, come and listen.

[Jessica]

He happens to know.

[Chris Cody]

Well informed.

[Mike Ryan]

I think Jess also happens to know. There are a lot of people that happen to know what exactly happened at Nebraska for Scott Frost and for Scott Frost.

[Jessica]

Great Scott. He happens to know. He happens to know. Gather, everyone.

[Mike Ryan]

Get the children.

[Chris Cody]

He happens to know.

[Mike Ryan]

So wise for Scott Frost to give that quote. I don't know if it's a pep rally and he's just feeding the UCF lore that's around him. For him to say anything about what happened at Nebraska is wild. A lot of people protecting Scott Frost there. It was a pretty open secret how unprofessional he was.

[Zaslow]

Really?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony]

I happen to know that when you spin the wheel and it lands on a topic, you're supposed to talk about that topic. And we spun the wheel and it didn't land on Scott Frost.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sorry. Yeah, look, don't put this on me. Dan was a person that said. I whispered in his ear. You know why I whispered in his ear? Cause I was respecting the wheel and not saying it over yet.

[Chris Cody]

Let's spin it again. Let's see if it turns up Scott Frost or not. It's nice that you happen to know. What did it land on there, Jessica?

[Tony]

So did you guys know you don't have to take off your shoes at the airport anymore? Well, it landed on TSA, Dan. Sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, Jess. No, because I have TSA PreCheck to avoid that inconvenience and others, my wife.

[Chris Cody]

Takes an extra pair of socks to the airport because they generally force us to do that stuff. She.

[Jessica]

How do you not have pre check?

[Chris Cody]

She does not like. I do now have pre check. But because of. This is the reason that we ended up getting pre check because of how disgusted she is by the airport in general. But you guys realize that.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's the extra pair of socks for? Like, her socks get dirty from touching the floor, then she changes socks.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, she doesn't like airport floors. But I remember. Do you guys remember where and how this rule got instituted? Because after 9 11, they were doing all sorts of ridiculous security stuff that made the lines three and four hours. And then someone ended up on an airplane and got arrested because they were trying to light their shoe, which had a bomb in it, and they couldn't successfully do it, but they'd gotten the bomb on the plane and they'd gotten the shoe on the plane. And then they changed the rule. And this is why. It's the illusion of safety. They're like, okay, everybody take your shoes off now. And there haven't been any shoe bombs since then. So in 20 years, they've now changed the rule.

[Tony]

Right. There was a guy who tried to, I believe the flight was to Miami, it was Paris to Miami. He tried to bring explosives on the plane in his shoe. And so they changed the rule in 2006, like years after this had happened. And I listened to a podcast. You're wrong about podcast. Not that long. About this ago, about this, where they talked about, like, if the shoe bomb would have even been something that would have worked because it would have to obviously be tiny to fit in your shoe. And so, yeah, Dan, I think there are a lot of people who thought this was just sort of like security theater for the longest time. Because, you know, a lot of countries don't make you take off your shoes. Obviously, if you have pre check, you don't have to take off your shoes. If you wear your shoes and you go through those scanners, like, wouldn't those scanners detect any sort of, you know, things hidden in your shoes? I don't really know the ins and outs of it, but this sort of happened just very quietly, like three days ago. Or I guess Homeland Security was like, hey, you guys don't have to do that anymore. Okay, Sure.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want a new perk. Like for TSA pre. Like, I want a new perk. Because at first it was like, the line's not as long, but now the line is just as long because you. Anyone could get TSA pre. Virtually anyone could get TSA pre. So the line is not all that much faster. But then it was like, well, it's just. Don't have to take off.

[Mike Ryan]

My shit is our own.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. What's my laptop? Yeah. But I take a laptop and an iPad, so I have to take one out anyways.

[Tony]

Billy. The other perk according to pre check people, which I am a part of, and I don't necessarily agree that this is a perk anymore, is that the pre check line tends to move faster because people tend to be frequent travelers. So if you. If you're in the non pre check line, maybe it's someone who's flown like once in the last six years versus pre check. It's probably like a seasoned traveler who's like, you know, just going through there. They know. I was going to say whipping off their shoes, but you don't have to whip off your shoes, obviously. But yeah, they know what they're doing. But I don't necessarily think that that's true.

[Chris Cody]

The main perk is just feeling better than the other people.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Zaslow]

You don't have to be in line with all the pores.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just.

[Jessica]

Just feel superior.

[Chris Cody]

Did. Did Tom Segura and his wife the pores. Are they the ones who popularized that phrase by getting. Getting. I mean, it's one of the things that hurt.

[Tony]

I believe it was Marie Antoinet.

[Jessica]

So the pores have been around for a long time.

[Chris Cody]

Pores have been around since there was money and some. Yeah, yeah. But most recently, Segura has gotten into.

[Jessica]

Bezos has also said the poor's a lot. Has he has to.

[Chris Cody]

I. Yeah. Privately, for sure. I don't think.

[Jessica]

What are we doing?

[Chris Cody]

Come on, put it on the poll at Lebiton show. Does Bezos in private refer to everyone as the pores? Everyone else as the pores? Jessica, I'm sorry. It was a great maiden voyage for the Wheel, but we're out of time, so we can't get to the Scott Frost one. It doesn't appear like that one. Next week this time. Yeah, it'll be on the Wheel next week, I suppose. Okay.

[Tony]

Well, I'll be back. Sounds good.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you. Good seeing you. Appreciate the time. Mike, why are you. What's. What's happening?

[Mike Ryan]

Don't you betray that confidence. I was miming over to my friend over here, Tony, is what Scott Frost was doing over at Nebraska.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. So that's all the information you're going to give us on happen.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm one of the people that are protecting Scott Frost from himself over there. Because everyone that covers college football knows what happened pretty much at Nebraska and the fact that it wasn't necessarily the most professional experience. So for him to impart from on high some sort of wisdom as if, you know, here's what I learned. I just took the wrong job. Maybe have some ownership of what went wrong there. You took a job at your alma mater, a dream job, and you said you failed there because they weren't built to win a national championship. A little accountability I can understand if you said that and you did all the right things by all accounts of people that were in and around that program and people that do a very good job of covering the sport. You didn't necessarily approach it the right way to have success over there. So just a Crazy thing for him to say. Why bring attention to it? Because we continue holding the secret for you, pal. If you don't.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, my God. He knows.

[Zaslow]

Look, I'm a college football expert. Maybe you forgot, all right? I travel with ESPN Radio. College football, tailgate. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know about this Scott Frost situation. I'd like to know.

[Mike Ryan]

You just started doing that beat. Hang around the beat for a little bit longer.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Zaslow]

Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Show you the ropes, kid.

[Chris Cody]

I'm gonna read it to you again from Scott Frost on what he learned from Nebraska. Quote, don't take the wrong job. I said I wouldn't leave UCF unless it was someplace you could win a national championship. I got tugged in a direction to try to help my alma mater and didn't really want to do it. It wasn't a good move. I'm lucky to get back to a place where I was a lot happier.

[Mike Ryan]

Watch what happens. I think there's gonna be a lot of people around that Nebrask, he may have coverage because he was a legend for the program over there and did well by them. But if you're going to start pointing the finger at other people over there, a lot of people that kind of covered up for you and protected you and decided, hey, we're just going to move on, this doesn't work, you can go back to ucf. Whatever. They're going to start talking.

[Chris Cody]

It was one of the biggest disasters anywhere in college football. And he was a lot happier at ucf, at least in part, because they did the lose very much at ucf, and they did a ton of losing at Nebraska. And he came off of an undefeated season in which they could have or should have won the national championship. And he goes to a program where they were a laughingstock the entire time that he was there. Don LeBatard. No one else here is willing to do a Trump or a Biden.

[Jessica]

That's not true, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, Tony, you can catch up.

[Dan Le Batard]

A thousand impersonations.

[Jessica]

That's not bad, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Finally.

[Chris Cody]

Terrible.

[Mike Ryan]

Pretty good STS Yours is terrible.

[Zaslow]

You just got to get a little.

[Chris Cody]

Redder, a little pinker.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're right there, man.

[Chris Cody]

Yours is not that. You're biting me.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you mean? Oh, his is good.

[Tony]

That's actually not bad.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not terrible.

[Mike Ryan]

That's not terrible.

[Zaslow]

We got to come together.

[Jessica]

Little Southern, little Bush.

[Chris Cody]

Little George Bush in that one.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the D. Ler show with the ST.

[Jessica]

Speaking of laughingstocks, Tony, you have an answer to that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Our Tony.

[Chris Cody]

We have some UFC updates.

[Jessica]

Zazzle's kid's going, great card. Yeah, great card.

[Dan Le Batard]

Only if you're allowed to take him. It sounds.

[Jessica]

I mean, again, I'll take him, Uncle Tony. I'll take him over there. We'll have fun, huh?

[Chris Cody]

The laughingstock thing that I am bringing up is only because I'm gonna play for the audience. Something that happened. Tony went to Las Vegas for the last UFC fight. What he is doing with those MMA hangouts on Saturday is great. A lot of people are following what he and Lewis and others, for us, are doing whenever there's a UFC card. But he promised us that he was going to spar with a former champion, Brad Tavares, and that never materialized. And Tony came back here and said, this is the reason that it never materialized.

[Jessica]

I finished hitting those kicks, right?

[Chris Cody]

We finished the round.

[Jessica]

I'm obviously a little tired, but I think I won the round. All of a sudden, I see Brad.

[Mike Ryan]

Pick up his stuff and he left.

[Lewis]

No, I can't be doing this.

[Jessica]

He was not. He was like, hey, I don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know about this.

[Jessica]

I don't want to, you know, whatever I got to do, wait until Billy.

[Cletus]

Gill hears about what you're doing right now.

[Jessica]

So you're saying what you're suggesting. The idea was for us to spar, and then he left. He had to go.

[Chris Cody]

He didn't say that once. He made the allegation twice of again, a former champion, Brad Tavares in ufc, that he was scared, that he ran. Scared from everything that Tony was doing with the heavy B.

[Jessica]

Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, I don't want.

[Dan Le Batard]

He ducked that other guy.

[Jessica]

The other guy ducked me. I was there. He wasn't, you mean.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, well, you showed him too much, by the way.

[Jessica]

A lot is coming from a lot of guys that would not step into the Octagon to do anything.

[Dan Le Batard]

You stepped into the Octagon to not do anything.

[Jessica]

Oh, I did nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what the report was earlier.

[Chris Cody]

You didn't spar.

[Jessica]

I mean, not my fault. I was there.

[Chris Cody]

Tony, where are you on the sound that we're about to play that some astute listeners have sent us? Have you seen this sound?

[Jessica]

I was on a boat in the weekend. I was in the Keys all weekend enjoying great time with my family. As we were getting off the boat, I was sent particular messages from Reddit that I never check. And I saw that Justin on his friends on his show, still Friends, had Brad on, and there was something had happened. I didn't watch the video. I Didn't really click on the link. I was on the boat. I was like, I'm good. And then I was told, hey. He said what had actually happened and apparently this is it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, so this is your first time watching this video?

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

That's great.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's the point of this lie?

[Mike Ryan]

He doesn't check.

[Jessica]

It's not. It's. It's. It's not a lie. I was sent. Look, I was sent. I'll show you the text I was sent.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're covering up lies with more lies.

[Jessica]

I didn't watch the video. I didn't need to watch the.

[Chris Cody]

Billy, always supportive of all the things that Tony does. Always support him.

[Dan Le Batard]

We haven't learned the lesson from last week and we're just adding more lies to this for some reason.

[Mike Ryan]

Is a podcast really called Still Friends?

[Jessica]

Yeah, he doesn't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's never heard of it.

[Jessica]

I've been on it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's never been on the Internet.

[Jessica]

I've been on. I've been on the Still Friendship.

[Chris Cody]

My boy Justin, once again on a Wild Willie Wednesday. Billy, always supportive of all the things that Tony does.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm trying to help him. A little honesty will get you out of this mess.

[Jessica]

Slightly, I can swear to everything that is holy to you that I did not watch the video.

[Chris Cody]

So we're going to watch it together here. And Billy, as you know, if you've been listening to the show for a while, has Tony as a rival and a nemesis. And he does not try to help him. Ever try to help him. And this one was embarrassing for Tony because Brad Tavares told the real story and it didn't quite, quite go the way that Tony said. According to Brad Tavares.

[Lewis]

Bro, he's catching the most. I was watching today's show. He's catching all the right now for not sparring you. Oh, Tony.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Lewis]

And you know what Tony said?

[Chris Cody]

What?

[Lewis]

He said, Brad saw him hitting the bag. I saw him hitting the bag. And I was like, Brad saw him hitting the bag. Coach Eric, Tony turned around and Brad was running out the door. You got a response to that? Brad, you gotta do a round, bro.

[Chris Cody]

I see.

[Lewis]

I seen him hitting a bag. And I was like, oh, bro, I'm not trying to get arrested for homicide. Or I thought this guy had at least some experience.

[Chris Cody]

Not the clip I wanted. Get me the second clip. That is the real story of what it is that actually happened there. Because Brad Tavares has a different experience with everything that Tony ended up claiming there. And there was a different accusation made Night.

[Lewis]

That was the plan originally. Tony from the Down Levitar show, he was supposed to come through, and we're supposed to do a spar. But in the beginning, I think they might have forgot some equipment. And then, bro, like, 130 rolls around. We're not doing anything. Kind of just talking about this, that, whatever. And I was like, okay, guys, let's go. And they're like, oh, no, we're waiting on a lens. And then I was like, oh, okay. Like. And I was thinking, oh, they gotta go run out to the car to get it. And then they're like, oh, we gotta go run to Best Buy. I was like, best Buy? Oh, hell no. And they're like, oh, no, no.

[Chris Cody]

It's just right down the road.

[Lewis]

I was like, bro, I know our Best Buy. I live here. Exactly like, bro, you're not gonna go Best Buy. Look for this lens, purchase them, and be back in, like, 35 minutes. Yeah, no, like, there's like, oh, no, no. Whatever. So I was like, whatever. I was like, bro, I'll give him a little bit more time. And then, bro, like, one. It was like, one. 45, 150. I said, bro, I gotta leave. Like, let's go. Let's do whatever you gotta do. You guys figure it out. Just do it on the iPhone. IPhone is great nowadays. You know what I mean? They're like, yeah, yeah, let's go. So we just ran them through two rounds.

[Chris Cody]

Do you know what an upset it is that those guys use the word bro more than you and Louis did?

[Jessica]

See, this is what I was explaining to Justin and the guys. They're obviously Hawaiian or Cuban. There's a very close knit, like, something or other, like community between Hawaiians and Cubans. There is, yeah, Very, very much kindred spirits.

[Mike Ryan]

Island nations.

[Chris Cody]

Really?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. The Rock married a Cuban.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not what this video is about, though.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, that is.

[Mike Ryan]

No, but he.

[Jessica]

But that's what he said. He said. They said, bro, more. And I said, yeah, There's a very kindred spirit between Hawaiians.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll. Are Hawaiians and Cubans kindred spirits because of their island puff pork? Billy, how did this news arrive at your doorstep and what was your reaction when this news arrived at your doorstep?

[Dan Le Batard]

I wasn't surprised. Just put it as plainly as I wasn't entirely surprised. I had heard rumblings before Brad told us what happened. I heard rumblings of what went on.

[Chris Cody]

Tony, how is it that we sent five people to Vegas and not only didn't get sparring done, arrived late, and didn't have the proper equipment. How does that happen?

[Jessica]

Well, Dan, it's a process over results kind of situation. We had a process, and things were left out of said process that I had no idea about. Because. Because I don't pack the bags and do those things. I show up to do the things that I had scheduled to do. And once, you know, once we are ready to do said things and I'm told, wait, no, we have to, like, get something. I'm like, okay, so how do I buy time with this guy who's a natural born killer, and I'm standing three feet away from him, and I'm gonna have to fight him at some point? What are we gonna do? So we did the workout. Coach Eric was great. Brad was great. Again, he's gonna throw some shade because it is what it is.

[Chris Cody]

This.

[Jessica]

But that's the.

[Chris Cody]

The Cameron podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a different podcast.

[Jessica]

That's a different podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

You didn't. You didn't hear, since you obviously didn't see the video.

[Jessica]

I didn't. That's the first time I watched.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, there's more. He. He says you don't know anything about mma. You've never. You've never trained in your life.

[Jessica]

I haven't. That's true.

[Dan Le Batard]

He said that you. You don't really know the sport.

[Jessica]

I. I don't sure if I may.

[Mike Ryan]

Season one thing and not that. Because you're being honest and you're eating that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Is what is a. A lens that you need specific to record a 5. We recorded plenty of content. It looked fine, and we didn't have that specific lens for it. If there's ever a point, and this is not pointing any fingers just in terms of making content. Well, I guess we gotta record it off of something. You have your cell phone, like, get. Get the fight. Get. Get the stuff. You needed a specific lens.

[Chris Cody]

You can't let him leave after he's been there 45 minute without getting what it is that you need.

[Mike Ryan]

With a specific lens. This does not add up. You get the content. The content comes before the lens. If we're putting the lens priority over the fight, what are we doing?

[Jessica]

See, the way I lead is by delegation, right? And if you. If you're in a specific area, I'm entrusting you that you're in that area and you know what you're doing, and I'm in my area. We're all in our different areas and we're trying to make things happen. As I'm getting ready to do the thing that I'm there to do. I'm not worried about camera phone, lens, this, that, the other. I'm just trying to get mentally ready to go fight somebody who's a killer.

[Mike Ryan]

Right, right.

[Jessica]

But you could see, like how my, my mindset is somebody else is gonna figure that out as I'm ready to do what I'm there to do.

[Mike Ryan]

No one else said like, hey, let's just shoot it on something else.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sounded like Brad said it eventually. I mean, at Tony's defense, Ozzy Osbourne wasn't trying to make sure all the cameramen had their lenses. Before his big concert. Tony was there to put on a show, and put on a show he did. And then what did Tony do? I would say this Tony displayed some level of leadership in his lies in which he said, you know what, something was messed up here, but I'm not gonna throw that person under the bus. Instead I will make up an outrageous lie. And normally the outrageous lies don't get back to the people that you're lying about. I knew that it was gonna get back shows.

[Jessica]

I knew it was gonna get back to him and I knew what the play was. You know, I think I had to protect. Hold on, Billy. I had to protect the guys that I went with. And yeah, there was a mistake made, but I wasn't the one gonna say, hey, this person did this and this person didn't do this on a show. I'm gonna try and make content around it. I'm gonna try to and make sure that my people are safe. And then all of a sudden it comes out and it is what it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony's a guy that likes to make something from nothing. And I think that Tony saw this and he said, you know what I'm gonna make, I'm gonna make a diamond out of this situation. We did not get what we were sent there to get. But we are not gonna accept fault for that. No, we'll tell a story and that what we can get out of this is we can now get. And he was even doing this that day. A four part series with now multiple trips with the boys. So instead of, you know, having just the one thing, now this becomes a little tour and then we can go to Vegas a number of times and keep doing things.

[Mike Ryan]

Rematch because.

[Dan Le Batard]

Exactly. You're not going to let that mistake hold you back. And I think what he didn't account for was for Brad coming out and telling the truth.

[Jessica]

Well, I figured that that could play some sort of part in it. So yeah, if he, If a guy who Is tied with Michael Bispink for the most wins in the middleweight division of ufc. If he hears, hey, this guy was ducking me or I was ducking him and I was hitting the bags like it was my first time because it was my first time hitting the bags in an MMA session. Thank you. I knew that the competitive juices were going to get up and he was going to save it.

[Chris Cody]

Minor penalty, two minutes for lying. So you're going to have to leave for lying. And the claims are that you didn't look that impressive. They were also quoted as saying that your kicks were wildly unimpressive. So let's play that sound as Tony leaves the room in great laughing stock shame. What do you think the two minute penalty for lying was was for Mike.

[Jessica]

Because he said I look good. I thought that that's what that was.

[Chris Cody]

You know what? Mike can go with you.

[Jessica]

How was I lying? I'm just telling you what happened.

[Mike Ryan]

One quick thing in the post mortem, was it covered that? Maybe next time don't prioritize the lens.

[Chris Cody]

Tony, did you look at my face and just say, how was I lying? Is that something that you just said?

[Jessica]

Yes, because I'm just explaining what happened.

[Chris Cody]

The whole thing is you lying. You're explaining now after lying.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good news. The post forum is so now that could be added to the list.

[Chris Cody]

Get out of there, Tony, and play the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, let him hear this.

[Chris Cody]

Play the clip about them talking.

[Jessica]

I haven't heard it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've never been on the Internet.

[Chris Cody]

Tony's. Tony's kicks.

[Lewis]

And it was harder for the little guy because they had to partner up. And bro, he outweighed that little guy. He was way bigger than the little dude, probably like £70. And the little dude, like when they had to. The biggest difference, I think was when they had to like wrestle each other. Oh, yeah. Shout out to Louis. Yeah, he's taking on Tony, who's 6, 4, 2, 30.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's that big.

[Chris Cody]

Big.

[Lewis]

Yeah, he's a big dude.

[Jessica]

Oh.

[Lewis]

So when he had to try take him down, bro, he's using all this energy and then vice, like when it's flipped, they both don't know what they're doing. But then the big Tony, just big, just size wise, easy, can take him down. You know what I mean? So he didn't have to work as hard at that point.

[Chris Cody]

Lewis again played the wrong video there. That is not the video that I wanted.

[Dan Le Batard]

Video praising Lewis. It seems as though the video team, who may or may not have forgotten this lens, is having selective edits. Of the video that you're asking to.

[Chris Cody]

Play, where were the kicks that I asked for? Like, where's that video? I was told I had 45 seconds of kick video.

[Lewis]

You remember the skinny guy, Lewis, when he kicked the bag, bro, I was laughing when they was hitting the the ground and pound. Because we told them. We're like, okay, this is gonna be like a little active restaurant. But still, when you hit it, hit. Hit the bag hard that you don't need to go all out. You don't need to be hitting it the whole time. But take a breath. Like, breathe, breathe and drop like a heavy shot. And I showed them. I gave them an example. Okay, this is how you gonna hit it. Boom, boom. Like, you know, like, I hit it. You'll hear. You hear the cage, like, shake. Boom, boom, bro, they were hitting it. I was like, bro, what are you doing? Literally, like. Like, are you, like, trying to give this thing a shiatsu massage? Not even deep tissue, bro. Like one of those sensual massages? Like, let me just.

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