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Don LeBatard
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Stugatz
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Chris Cody
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Mike Ryan
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Stugatz
That's right, it's time for.
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Chris Cody
Yeah.
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Stugatz
And it's brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear all about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings. The crown is yours. Roy.
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Roy Wood Jr.
Kick us off NHL tonight. The Panthers are at the Jets. The Panthers coming off of a big win against Winnipeg, but they don't do well in Winnipeg. So in the last seven games following a win, they have lost. Last seven games in Winnipeg following a win, they have failed to cover the puck line in five straight games in Winnipeg. But Sam Rinehart is on the 10 game point streak and Alexander Bonkov is on an eight game point streak. But despite that, I'm going to have to go with the Winnipeg jets minus one and a half.
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Mike Ryan
Wow.
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Roy Wood Jr.
Against the spread, I don't even like that.
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Chris Cody
Nice blowout. Wow.
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Roy Wood Jr.
He's no homer going to college football this weekend. I love this Colorado Kansas game. I Think it's going to be a great game. Kansas is playing real well. Jalen Daniels figured out how to play the position again. He was really struggling at the early part of the year. They just won in midnight in Provo. You know, you don't do that in a midnight game. That's not something that you do. It's a really close line. It's two and a half and I'm going to take the home doggy. They've been really good to me the last two weeks. Being a two unit put the town on alert play and I'm going right back to that well against the sp.
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Stugatz
Billy, what do you got?
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Billy
Usually doesn't end with well. I mean.
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Greg Cody
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers -5 at the New York Giants this week. Tommy DeVito is gonna be starting. We just had his agent on. However, I don't know. I don't think that he's gonna be taking down Baker Mayfield. I don't know who the hell's catching the ball for Baker right now except odd and out there, but besides him. I don't know who's on this team, but he finds a way to get it done.
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Chris Cody
David, good analysis.
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Stugatz
I thought Billy's was all we needed to hear.
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Greg Cody
Mike Evans is out there, right?
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Chris Cody
It's good analysis.
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Greg Cody
I think he doesn't know who's on that team either. Hey, I'll tell you what. You can criticize it if you will. Only one person on here had the cojones, if you will, to take the Bills over the Chiefs last week and against the spread. And you're looking at who that person is, Right?
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Roy Wood Jr.
What's your record picking games again?
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Greg Cody
Oh, and against the spread. I mean, I'm the defending champion. I won last year when we did. Against the spread.
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Roy Wood Jr.
No, but I mean the GBF thing.
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Billy
Yeah.
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Greg Cody
Well, last Billy's big board last night.
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Chris Cody
He was one and two.
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Greg Cody
One and two. Yeah. So 30 and 16 on the season.
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Roy Wood Jr.
That's really good.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, that.
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Roy Wood Jr.
That's your.
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Greg Cody
It's an off.
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Roy Wood Jr.
We look at Dan, he's trying to poo poo that.
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Greg Cody
Yeah.
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Roy Wood Jr.
This guy's. When he speaks on games, you should listen.
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Greg Cody
Thanks.
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Chris Cody
He's getting two thirds of his games, right. He just happened to be one and two last night. When we apply pressure and lights on him that he doesn't want because he cares about this very deeply and he doesn't want too much attention to pay to be paid for this because it puts pressure on him.
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Billy
It should be pointed out, by the way, just Going back to last segment, Vanderbilt did not start the season 5, 0. They lost to Georgia State.
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Chris Cody
I was using a hypothetical.
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Roy Wood Jr.
An SEC team lost to Georgia State.
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Chris Cody
I also, I also want to say it's a hypothetical. Stuart.
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Greg Cody
Pressure births diamonds. It's not pressure that I'm afraid of. It's just an under the weather week. It happens.
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Billy
It happens.
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Greg Cody
By the way, you know what I was thinking, gang? Now that we're talking about it, I think if we're really going to try to get this swap week off the ground week 10 of the season, you're going to need to opt into the swap by week eight.
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Billy
Oh, I like that.
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Greg Cody
Because I think that you need to let your intentions known whether you're swapping or not. And then you have kind of like a two week build upon the situation. And people were asking me out there in the commissary, Billy, how does it work to the top teams pick first. What do you do here if you want to be a spoiler, whatever. You know what I said backroom deals. That's how swap week works. You don't know what you're not what's going to happen until they just reveal it to you on an ESPN special.
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Jess
Of course, that's a great idea.
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Don LeBatard
This is almost what happened during COVID Remember there were like some, like all the games kept getting canceled. There were some last minute games that needed to get played. There was that crazy Coastal Carolina game that happened like at the last minute. It was kind of like that.
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Greg Cody
Billy, love a good backroom deal.
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Chris Cody
Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Lebiton show. Do you love a good backroom deal? That's the only kind that's being made right now in order to dismantle our entire government and all of America. Ron McGill joins us now to talk about the animals. Always delighted to see his happy face. You can get Pride of a Lion, the book that he did with Greg Cody. It is still available. It is selling very well. It is a best seller. So too is Greg Cody's back in my day. And so too is Greg Cody. I'm sorry, Stugatz's book. Stugatz's personal record book that you could still get@stugottsbook.com Ron McGill joins us now and I want to show you a video to start here because termites and ants work interestingly as teammates. And we have a wall of soldiers here with termites and ants that we are showing you here. The wall of ants is protecting the other ants here from any kind of attack. How this is just normal teamwork behavior from ants and termitron.
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Ron McGill
You know, Dan, I gotta be honest with you, I'm not sure. I don't. I'm not that familiar with ants and termites. Other than that, you know, they will dominate the world eventually. That they more the weight of ants and termites far surpasses the weight of all human beings on the planet. Wow. But I don't know of ants and termites working collaboratively that way. Except one protecting against the other. I'm not sure.
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Chris Cody
Put it on the pole, please. Juju. Will ants and termites rule the world?
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Don LeBatard
Ron, have you read the book An Immense World by Ed Young?
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Ron McGill
I have not, but I've heard about it.
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Don LeBatard
Okay. I started reading it seems like something that you would be into, but if there was any animal sense that you could have, like sensory trait that you could have, what would it be?
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Ron McGill
I guess I'd love to have the sight of an eagle, the sight of a bird of prey. I mean, this is a bird that. To put it in perspective, if you had the eyes of an eagle, you could read a newspaper 100 yards away.
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Greg Cody
Ron, there's been a lot of talk in the college football community about maybe implementing a swap week. It has me wondering, at zoos, oftentimes, animals are on loan. Is there ever like a barter system when you loan animals? So like, you say, like, we'll loan you our, you know, panda, I know is like property of China, but like, I'll loan you a kangaroo in exchange for two jaguars or something like that. How does that work?
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Ron McGill
That it can happen that way? We can do that. We can sometimes exchange the same species of animal just to get a different bloodline. You know, we might have a male giraffe that is offspring of our herd and we need to get new bloodline in there. So we may call, you know, the Memphis DO out of just grabbing out of the air and say, listen, we'll trade our male giraffe for your male giraffe, depending on what the stud book says. You know, we have stud books, basically. Stud books are kind of like computerized dating. Dating. They tell us which animals should be paired with what other animals to heat to keep the healthiest bloodline. So zoos do exchange the same animals back and forth. We put them. We have animals that are acquired through what we call exhibit loans, where we're just putting an animal out there on exhibit. It might be surplus to another zoo, but we can use it on our habitat here and be here strictly as an exhibit loan. We have breeding loans where if they come over as a breeding loan loan, let's say we take a male gorilla to put with a female gorilla here at the zoo. The way that that works out is that we would get the first, third, fifth, and so on offspring. The loaning zoo would own the second, fourth, and sixth offspring. You divide the offspring that way, and then they could use those offspring as collateral to trade for other animals. But basically, you know, the overwhelming majority of all the animals you see in zoos today are animals that are born in zoos and they're exchanged back and forth to maintain the healthiest genetic bloodlines for that captive population.
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Stugatz
So zoos are like rosters. Like, who do you look around? What's a ro. Roster? You look another zoo, you look at, you say, that's a damn good roster.
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Greg Cody
They got over there.
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Stugatz
I want to make a deal with them.
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Ron McGill
You know, it's not necessarily that we make that decision. That decision is sometimes made at a higher level. Again, the stud bookkeeper, who would kind of be the general manager of that. That species, would say, okay, you know what? This male needs to go to that zoo to be with that female, because according to their bloodlines, they're going to produce the most genetically viable offspring.
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Greg Cody
So do they make animals like free agents? They just list them in this stud book like they put them out on.
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Don LeBatard
Are they on like a tinder?
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Greg Cody
They're like on waivers, essentially?
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Ron McGill
Well, yes, we do put out surplus lists. Zoos put out surplus list on what is surplus to their collection. And we work with the aza, the association of Zoos and Aquariums, so they have great communication between the institutions to see who needs what. And they work with the stud bookkeepers throughout the aza. And all those recommendations are made collaboratively. The zoos, accredited zoos don't work as little islands on themselves. They all work together with the other accredited zoos to maintain the best populations under human care.
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Greg Cody
So you don't get into bidding wars with other zoos?
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Ron McGill
No, no, we don't get it. No, no, no bidding wars.
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Stugatz
What's the worst?
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Ron McGill
It's rare that you actually. The Jews actually pay money to other zoos. They're all done basically on different types of loan agreements. Exhibit loan, breeding loan, you know, that type of thing.
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Stugatz
What's the worst trade you ever made? You tried to, you gave up like a veteran rhino. You got like a young giraffe. But the giraffe just did not pan out.
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Ron McGill
You know, Chris, I can't think off the top of my head of anything that Worked out that way. We've had some animals that we've, you know, brought in in the hopes of a breeding loan. And the bottom line is, you know, the mate that they were paired up with didn't like that particular animal. And that's a big misconception people have. You know, oh, heck, they're animals. We'll put them together, they'll do what comes naturally. That's not the case at all. And a lot of these species, the animals generally have to kind of get along and like each other before you can get a successful breeding. So that's. That's the biggest part of the challenge, is to introduce these animals to each other in a way that they accept each other, and that leads to the breeding. But oftentimes that doesn't happen.
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Greg Cody
What happens if, heaven forbid, the animal dies under your care that's on loan?
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Ron McGill
Well, hopefully it was something that can be accounted for. You know, animals, everything that lives is going to die one day. Depends where and when it dies. You know, if the animal dies prematurely from something that could have been avoided, then, you know, we've got a responsibility. We've got to be accountable, and we're going to have to answer to that. But generally speaking, and, you know, as long as we provide the documentation that the animal received the proper care that it was being, you know, properly monitored and cared for, again, everything that lives is going to die. And just because it happens to die under your watch doesn't mean it was your fault, perhaps.
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Don LeBatard
Ron, do the animals have, like a.
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Chris Cody
Hinge app or something that perhaps was not necessary there.
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Billy
You cover your bases after the animal dies.
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Chris Cody
It just wasn't needed, perhaps.
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Stugatz
Well done, Ron.
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Don LeBatard
Do the animals have like a. Maybe like a hinge or a tinder where they can swipe and they're like, ooh, that. That giraffe at the San Diego Zoo looks like my type. I don't want to go to the zoo in Tulsa. I don't like that one. Not cute.
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Ron McGill
And just, you know, the bottom line is animals, of course, the only time they get to make the decision is when we introduce them. They don't get to look at a video screen and go, oh, yeah, he's hot. Or she's great. No, no, no. That's that we make that decision initially, we introduce them, and then we find out whether we made the right decision or not.
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Chris Cody
What percentage of time roughly when you put animals together, do they successfully breed? Like, when you say, this is a challenge and it's part of what it is that you do, what Success rate.
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Ron McGill
I would say between 60 and 70%. Somewhere in that neighborhood.
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Chris Cody
Okay, so more often than not, that's an efficient offense. If you're a football team, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. All things consider.
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Stugatz
Do you set up like a. Like a blanket? Put a nice dinner together for them so they can really get to know each other?
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Ron McGill
It also, it also depends on the species, guys. You know, some, you know, you put a couple of rabbits together, you're going to get baby rabbits right away. Put two pandas together, that's a much bigger challenge when you take into consideration. Listen, a female panda can only get pregnant three days in the entire year.
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Billy
What?
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Ron McGill
Okay, that's the only window she has to get pregnant three days in the entire year. You have to figure out when is the right time to put the male in with her. Because they're normally solitary animals. They don't want to be with each other until that time comes. So you've got to be studying the urine of the female, find out the, you know, the hormone level to find out if she's in fact cycling, and then you can put them together and then they might not be successful anyway because she might say, he's ugly. I don't want it to have anything to do with him. So there's a big challenge. It depends on the species. But if you're going to look generally, overall speaking, I think between 60 and 70% of pairings that are done in accredited institutions could be successful.
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Don LeBatard
He also, like, he could have bad swimmers, too. It's always the female panda that gets blamed sometimes. The male panda, he can't do it either.
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Ron McGill
You're wholeheartedly correct. We had that issue with one of our tigers that, you know, when we finally did a electroejaculation to examine the sperm that, yes, he had a very, very low number of effective swimmers in there. So the onus was on him.
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Stugatz
Don't shame my man like that.
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Greg Cody
Ron, what's the percentage of planned breeding versus unplanned? Like, how many surprise baby animals do you get?
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Ron McGill
Well, I'd like to say we get very few. I don't know of any surprise baby animals that we've had here at the zoo in the last several years. Every one of these births is pretty carefully planned. Knowing where these offspring are to end up, and that's one of the big responsibilities. Hence, we have a very effective birth control program here. We've got animals that have either been vasectomized, we've got animals that are on birth control pills. We got Animals that are on birth control implants where, you know, you implant the thing and it kind of time releases hormones to convince the female she's pregnant so she never ovulates. So these birth control programs are very clearly and carefully planned. And once we say, okay, you know, the St. Louis Zoo needs a new giraffe, we have a place to put a baby giraffe, okay, put them together, let's see if we can get lucky there. And, and then we know where that baby's going. But, you know, that's the difference between accredited institutions and sometimes non accredited institutions where they're just breeding to get babies because they want to come in to bring people in to see the baby animals and take pictures and draw the gate. Whereas we as accredited institutions have a moral responsibility to make sure there's a good place for every baby that's born.
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Jess
Ron, I know many times over the years you grow emotionally attached to animals at the zoo, and when they pass away, sometimes you're even brought to tears. What's the opposite situation? What are the biggest major breeds of animals at the zoo that it's very tough to get close to that over, you know, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you pass away, you're like, ah, too bad.
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Ron McGill
But I don't know if we ever just say ah. But you know, basically it correlates with the intelligence of the animal and the most that we can relate to it. You know, people, I guess, do not have like major depressions and funerals if, let's say a lizard dies or a snake dies, as opposed to a gorilla, you know, or a koala or something. People tend to associate more with affection and a connection that way. So, you know, of course, invertebrates, I mean, there comes a time where we actually have to. We have tropical roaches that we have in our tropical forest that, you know, as they reproduce at a very rapid rate, we actually use some of them as food for other animals. So we're actually submitting them to become food for animals. So not only are we not crying over their death, but we're causing their death.
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Chris Cody
Put it, please, as the program description. Electro ejaculation. It is not a phrase I had heard before this episode. I'm always learning about things on this episode.
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Don LeBatard
But you're intrigued by it, Dan.
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Chris Cody
Well, so are you. I know.
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Stugatz
I want to know more.
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Chris Cody
Jess, I noticed that you sprung into action there a little bit. I was not the only one interested in electro ejaculation, buddy.
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Ron McGill
That's basically painting an electric probe and putting it up the record.
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Stugatz
No, we got it. Yeah, we got it.
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Billy
No one here.
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Chris Cody
Totally understand science. Exactly what was happening. It is science. That is correct. Ron, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it.
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Ron McGill
Always a pleasure, guys. Have a great day.
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Chris Cody
That because it is science. That is the scientific description.
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Billy
Roy has been so efficient today.
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Chris Cody
Very, very small windows. He has worked well. He has used one word where I am using 50 seasons.
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Roy Wood Jr.
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Jess
Don LeBatard the Elephant went into a 711 and bought a pack of cigarettes. But my question to Ron is this.
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Ron McGill
Stugats.
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Chris Cody
That joke didn't really land the way you wanted it to, did it? We all just stared at it.
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Greg Cody
This is the Don Levatar show with these two gods.
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Chris Cody
I want to get to this John Stamos story though, because Chris Cody had a lot of opinions about this and I was looking at him and I was listening to him and he slowly was winning me over. And then I went and checked the Internet and realized that most people were with Chris Cody on this and John Stamos who was trying to do something nice for his friend Dave Coulier, who has stage three cancer and he's fighting. He announced this on morning television a couple of weeks ago. And I remember a whole lot of people had a very strong reaction to this, because I know this has happened a lot recently where we've lost a lot of people that mean something emotionally to you, even though you don't totally know them. And this couple of people, John Stamos and Dave Coulier, represent a time and a place and a nostalgia and a childhood. And I was discovering entertainment with these people. I grew up, in some ways, around these people on television. And Stamos famously doesn't age. Just every time you look at Stamos, you don't understand how he's one of the few people in all of fame that doesn't seem to look any older. But if you've seen this act of solidarity here from John Stamos, he's wearing a bald cap while he's with Dave Coulier, and everyone sees that it's a bald cap, and he's got. Stamos has famous hair, right? So he is bringing attention to the fact that he's not doing the thing that everyone wants him to do, which is now pressure him to shave the hair. That's not an act of solidarity. That's you wearing a costume.
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Stugatz
Look, I saw this headline, People magazine. They had the picture of them together, and my first thought was, I just learned about the Dave Couye cancer thing. I was like, oh, my God, that's terrible. What a cool thing John Stamos is doing. Showing solidarity. And then I read the fine print. I'm like, ball. Oh, it's. Oh, he didn't do the thing. He just put on a bald cap. Look, he's still supporting his friend, but I'm just picturing John Stamos afterwards, whipping it off, walking into the bathroom and just, like, being like, all right, we're good to go here. All right, we're good to go before we get out of here. Can't look ridiculous walking out of here.
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Chris Cody
It's not really a sacrifice. It's a photo op.
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Mike Ryan
It's just.
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Stugatz
Yeah, my point is photo op.
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Chris Cody
I'm giving voice to the Internet. Billy, do not take the easy position on the other side of this.
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Billy
Oh, I absolutely agree with Chris. If you want to support your friend, support your friend. Go all out and shave your head.
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Mike Ryan
Head.
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Billy
Like, if you really. He's going through a difficult time. If you care about him enough, you'll support him to the point where you will shave off that luscious hair.
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Chris Cody
I don't. I don't really want to judge someone else's support.
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Greg Cody
The Colts cheerleaders shaved their heads when Chuck Pagano had cancer or did they wear bald caps? No, they shaved their heads.
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Jess
That's hard to believe.
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Greg Cody
What.
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Jess
Which part to believe?
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Greg Cody
Wait, this the Stamos or the.
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Jess
That the cheerleader shaved their heads?
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Greg Cody
No, they did. I'll find pictures.
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Jess
I want to see a photo.
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Roy Wood Jr.
Just sickening from you folks. He could have just sat idly by and not done anything, and you would have just assumed he loved his friend, was going to support him no matter what, just didn't have to shave his head. No one was clamoring for him to shave his head before this photo op.
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Stugatz
I would have been if he was just fully with his hair, just supporting his friend.
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Roy Wood Jr.
So you'd rather him do nothing?
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Stugatz
I would rather. I would. Honestly. I think I support. I'm good with him just having his hair, though. Because he still has his hair.
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Roy Wood Jr.
Yes, but he did next to nothing.
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Jess
Which is little bit better.
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Stugatz
My reaction to it was like, oh. Like, oh. It just. I had my guttural reaction. I'm not judging it. I love John Stamos. I love De Cooye, I hope. I was just surprised. I was like, it went from, holy shit, what a nice thing. John Stamos has a great hair. I can't believe he did this. Oh, he didn't.
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Roy Wood Jr.
He didn't. Shame on you guys.
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Stugatz
It was just my honest reaction on you guys.
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Roy Wood Jr.
I bet you think Kirk Herbstreet's bringing that other dog around too soon.
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Chris Cody
Oh, no.
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Roy Wood Jr.
I bet that's what you.
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Chris Cody
Yeah. Greg, Cody, I don't understand why you would question as misinformation, Billy's cold story. I don't understand the point or the purpose of questioning that story.
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Jess
I never heard it at the time.
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Chris Cody
So if you didn't hear it, it didn't happen.
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Stugatz
Someone said, yeah, I'm not sure it did.
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Chris Cody
Okay, very good.
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Stugatz
And yes, Mike, I think that the dog.
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Chris Cody
I appreciate your rigorous vetting process journalistically.
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Stugatz
Yeah, Herbie should have given a little buffer a couple weeks between dogs, right?
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Don LeBatard
No, you're first of all, your guys, Ben. Herb street takes have now gotten me in trouble. People are commenting on my post and they're like, shame on you for being disrespectful to Herb Street's dog. And I was like, I was the only one that defended him. But by association with all of you, now I'm getting more.
- [23:42]
Roy Wood Jr.
I don't know what you're talking about. I think it's pretty messed up with you.
- [23:45]
Stugatz
I just don't know.
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Mike Ryan
You what?
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Stugatz
I just don't know why that other dog couldn't have come with him previously. It was like that dog was, like, in the minor league.
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Don LeBatard
You guys would have been like, oh, there's two dogs.
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Stugatz
I just love the idea. I got a second dog at home, looks just like this dog.
- [23:58]
Billy
He's waiting, waiting to get called up.
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Stugatz
He's not ready for that private jet yet. He's almost there. Come here, buddy. You want to. You almost ready?
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Billy
You almost ready?
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Chris Cody
So you have Stamos immediately leaving the photo op, just whipping off the skull cap and shaking his hair out like in a shampoo commercial, and making sure.
- [24:15]
Stugatz
That it looks perfect before he goes back out into public.
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Jess
Can I be the one person in the room who defends John Stamos here? No, I'm sorry.
- [24:23]
Roy Wood Jr.
No, you're not. Because there's. I defend John Stamos because he's.
- [24:27]
Chris Cody
You could be the one person in this room with me.
- [24:30]
Jess
Right? The gesture. Gestures count, right? Whatever happened to the phrase, it's the thought that counts? He had a very nice thought on how to support.
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Chris Cody
Yeah, but the thought did make us think that he had shaved a famous bit of hair.
- [24:44]
Billy
Like, the thought, he sold us a bill of goods.
- [24:45]
Roy Wood Jr.
No, he didn't. If you saw the original post on his Instagram, he said, I donned a bald cap and I touched up my Photoshop skills. He never once tried to pretend like he actually shaved his head.
- [24:57]
Chris Cody
Mike, can you please help me looking up the bill of goods? Because that sounds. I've always thought that's a receipt, the bill of goods. And so when someone sells you a bill of goods, does it mean that they're just selling you the cost of something versus the actual goods? The expression. Because I don't believe John Stamos sold us a bill of goods. But he did plant the thought that he himself had shaved his head in solidarity, and he didn't, in fact, shave his head. And so it then allowed the Internet the opening of. Wait a minute, wait a minute. That solidarity doesn't smell quite as much like solidarity as I need solidarity to smell.
- [25:39]
Stugatz
It just gets lessened for me when I'm picturing him texting his assistant, hey, can you get me a bald cap? I thought of a good idea.
- [25:45]
Greg Cody
Whose idea was this? Like, how did this happen? And then become a photo shoot? Is what I'm kind of wondering. Like, who alerted people? Like, we got an idea. It was. It was in People magazine.
- [25:55]
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
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Chris Cody
Oh, I thought I was. I'm sorry. I thought. I thought it was something that was just on their Instagram.
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Stugatz
No, I feel like I've gone too far. I don't want to say, like what I was just about to say. I don't want to say it.
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Greg Cody
What? What was it? Just say it and then we'll tell you if it was too far.
- [26:08]
Stugatz
Do you picture Dave Cooye, like, sitting in that photo? Like, is he thinking, john did everything he could? This is as far as John could have gone? Or is he sitting there saying he.
- [26:17]
Chris Cody
I mean, he's saying, did John come over from the set of the Alien movie that he's doing? Because I feel terrible about this because he's put.
- [26:24]
Greg Cody
No.
- [26:24]
Don LeBatard
This is a great topic. It's an ethical conundrum for sure.
- [26:27]
Billy
But did Dave ever think to himself, john should shave it off.
- [26:31]
Chris Cody
This is not solidarity the way I want it.
- [26:33]
Greg Cody
Without hair. John Stamos, not great eyebrows.
- [26:36]
Jess
I gotta tell you, they both have beautiful skulls, though.
- [26:39]
Roy Wood Jr.
He does.
- [26:39]
Ron McGill
Yeah.
- [26:40]
Greg Cody
Well, that's not John's. That's the thing we don't know.
- [26:42]
Don LeBatard
Beautiful skulls. You sound like a British columnist.
- [26:45]
Chris Cody
Area on those foreheads.
- [26:49]
Billy
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Billy
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- [29:05]
Billy
See DKNG Co BBall Don LeBatard.
- [29:09]
Jess
He has been great. He's made great hires.
- [29:11]
Roy Wood Jr.
I said all.
- [29:12]
Chris Cody
We've said all.
- [29:12]
Roy Wood Jr.
He said all the first time I.
- [29:16]
Greg Cody
Heard any of this.
- [29:16]
Chris Cody
Greg, everything you' all been said, it's all been said.
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Jess
Okay? You got to understand one thing. St me maximum.
- [29:23]
Greg Cody
That's right.
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Jess
I say it, it hasn't been said.
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Mike Ryan
Boom.
- [29:26]
Jess
Okay, Understand that until I say it as it been said.
- [29:31]
Chris Cody
Me maximum. Me maximum.
- [29:34]
Greg Cody
This is the Dan Levar show with these two gods.
- [29:46]
Chris Cody
Roy Wood Jr. Is going to be with us in just a second. But I am told by Mike Ryan and I'm afraid of what he's about to announce that Dave Coulier has just announced something that has the potential to make Chris Cody and others on the Internet who are arguing about this feel really bad. Because once Dave Coulier gets in the mix, whatever he says ends up being the arbiter of all of this.
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Roy Wood Jr.
He put out a statement as Chris Cody was talking.
- [30:10]
Stugatz
Maybe he was watching. Watching.
- [30:12]
Roy Wood Jr.
I'm sorry to see a bunch of negative comments as I've just begun my cancer journey. It's our friendship, me and John, and this is how we are handling a very tough time. I'm a comedian and humor is what drives me. John knows how to cheer me up. And I laughed out loud when he arrived wearing a bald cap, being a true loving friend and brother. He also goes on to say that he's heard from so many of his fans saying they've been inspired to check themselves out because if it can happen to Dave Coulier, it can happen to me, and that this is all about raising awareness to get people active in making sure they are healthy and cancer free. He wishes nothing but love for you, though, Chris.
- [30:48]
Stugatz
He laughed out loud, but what was he thinking inside?
- [30:51]
Chris Cody
Billy, you were making faces throughout that I don't want to face.
- [30:55]
Greg Cody
I think Dave Coulier is a really great guy because he said, me and John are going through something right now. It's like, no, buddy, you are. John wore a bald cap, like, you're the one going through something. You have candy.
- [31:05]
Chris Cody
But his friend is also like, that one hurts.
- [31:08]
Roy Wood Jr.
They are very close. The three of them were very close. And it was very sad when Bob Saget passed away to see those two friends. They. They really formed a strong, true brotherhood among them as they often reference and they're often seen out together.
- [31:23]
Greg Cody
Also. One of the top headlines on tmz, John Stamos announces death of longtime best friend. Like losing a piece of myself. So, Chris, I think you just apologize to Stamos and we move on.
- [31:32]
Billy
You were just supporting Chris, though. It seemed like I owe him an apology. Apology. I do. I feel bad now. No, I was wrong. He knows his friend. He knows what kind of support he wants. And if it's good for Dave, then it's good for me.
- [31:47]
Mike Ryan
Dave.
- [31:47]
Billy
I am sorry, John. Yeah, I am sorry, Roy.
- [31:49]
Greg Cody
You want to apologize?
- [31:50]
Mike Ryan
No.
- [31:50]
Chris Cody
Let's get Roy. Let's leave.
- [31:52]
Greg Cody
Not you either, Roy.
- [31:53]
Roy Wood Jr.
Oh, sorry.
- [31:53]
Chris Cody
Let's leave Roy Wood Jr. Out of this. He doesn't have to apologize to anybody. He's the host of have I got. Have I got news for you. I've told you, it's good. It's on Max. It's on CNN on Saturday and then Max on Sunday. And he's also got shows in Hawaii coming up next March. If you're making vacation plans, you comedians all have that grift. That Hawaii grift. That Hawaii grift. Like.
- [32:17]
Mike Ryan
Add three days to each side of it.
- [32:20]
Chris Cody
Break even.
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Mike Ryan
Trip, baby.
- [32:24]
Chris Cody
It is a great grift, right? You just. You spend a week paying for yourself to have a vacation and just sharpen the material in a lovely place.
- [32:31]
Mike Ryan
That's it. And they get all the stuff that I know they haven't seen on TV yet. Because it's Hawaii. I'm not doing new material in Hawaii. We get the polished goldioli. It's like going to see Elton John at the Garden, baby. Let me find one in my bag of trees. This next joke's from 2018. Remember all the hubba balloo about the national anthem and whether or not we should stand? This one goes out to y'all.
- [32:59]
Chris Cody
Hullabaloo is a great word. He knows what all the funny words are. You will get his semi. Sure bet of the week in a moment. But we haven't talked to you since an ominous election day where you promised us everything would be okay.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah, my bad.
- [33:15]
Ron McGill
Sorry about that.
- [33:16]
Mike Ryan
That's why we call it a semi. Sure bet it didn't come home. I thought it would. That's my fault there. Dan Leviton. I was out the country. I don't know if anyone else has been out the country yet since the election, but I will say this. You can't be allowed American anymore. I was in England and, like, you know, you could be. I'm America, America, America. And like, British people were coming up to me like, well, what have you done? What have you done? And I'm like, first of all, I'm not Latino. Ask one of them. Cause I was told they're the ones who did it, not me. Ask the white women wearing the friendship it wasn't me bracelets, which, by the way, you want to talk about a griff. That's a quality that's right up there with those Atlanta, Armstrong, Livestrong, even though I'm cheating bracelets.
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Chris Cody
I don't think that's what they're called.
- [34:13]
Billy
They should be called out.
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Mike Ryan
To sell a group of people. Hey, man, you see all that hate they throwing at your group? Wear this bracelet, and trust me, black people will be perfectly fine identifying you as a proper Democratic vote. Older morons. I wish I had the courage to grift merch off of political, like, the emotions. The political emotions in this country. I'm this close to it. Dan Lebatard. I don't want to start a media empire like you. I just want to make money off of terrible cotton T shirts that shrink after two washes.
- [35:02]
Chris Cody
20Th anniversary jerseys, LeBatard. AF.com is where you get them. What. What do you make? What do you make, Roy, of just the systemic sort of trying to break the government of the cabinet picks.
- [35:19]
Mike Ryan
I don't. I don't think that any of the. I'll say this, you're not going to discourage Republicans from confirming Matt Gates by saying he's creepy. And I think one thing that the election proved is no matter how much proof you have of somebody being creepy, people gonna like who they like. You, you'd have better luck saying that Matt Gaetz puts pineapple on pizza, and that being the type of thing that gets him, you know, unconfirmed, if you will. But, you know, they're, they're, they're, they're going to do what they want to do, so we're along for the ride. Or if you have enough money, you can leave the country. Or if you're a broke bitch like me, you can just leave Twitter or whatever social media site you don't want to go to anymore.
- [36:08]
Chris Cody
You're past the point of being wounded or angry by the latest development that is more absurd than the previous absurd development.
- [36:17]
Mike Ryan
You can be angry, but to run the same playbook against it is futile. Like, I think, I really think. And it's going to take time to see how this happens, but I think at some point, humor has to change to a degree and to be critical to show what's going on. Yes, that's needed for a democratic republic when it's time for I told you so's by midterms. But to feel like you're going to reach the electorate who you didn't connect with for the general election by the same strategy of hurling insult. I, you know, I don't know. You know, we had, we had state rep, we had Congressman Tim Burchett on our show on cnn, and it was a pretty back and forth episode in terms of the tension of it, but I felt like we were better off having them on than not having them on. And it just being, you know, basically a media version of Blue sky, where it's everybody seeing everything as one way and doing everything one way, and that being the singular approach. Now, I'm also not saying that you as a media organization should be going to the White House to kiss the ring of Trump, but I don't think that you should be keeping everything, you know, just in one political, one political box. So I, you know, I don't know, I don't know how you get people to see what the hell is going on, but I think this might be one of those situations where you kind of got to sit back and just let Americans take their medicine and just go, look, this is what y'all voted for. So let's see how it goes.
- [37:50]
Chris Cody
The name of his show is have I Got News for you. It's excellent and it's a News quiz. It's very easy to watch, Fun to watch. CNN Saturdays, 9pm Eastern and it streams Sunday on Max. Yes, Roy, I.
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Mike Ryan
Before we get to the semi sure bit, that real quick broader pop culture question. I have an 8 year old. I introduced him to the JJ Abrams Star Trek universe. He loved it. I want at some point to introduce him to Star Wars. Do I do it 4 through 6 then 1 through 3 or 1 through 6, Roy?
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Billy
It's got to be 4 through 6.
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Roy Wood Jr.
Yeah, it's got to be 4 through 6.
- [38:27]
Chris Cody
Yes. Roy is nodding his head vigorously. Because.
- [38:31]
Roy Wood Jr.
Because, I mean, it's old school. You got to go that way. You got to show four through six because that's what came first chronological, logically.
- [38:38]
Mike Ryan
Somebody sent me a clip of Patton Oswald saying there's something called the Machete cup. Would you go 4, 5, 2, 3, 6 to do some sort of hide the Darth Vader Lucas's I'm your father reveal type nonsense?
- [38:51]
Don LeBatard
Whoa, whoa. Spoiler. Hang on a second.
- [38:54]
Billy
Whoa.
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Chris Cody
Spoiler alert.
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Don LeBatard
I haven't seen them yet.
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Mike Ryan
I, I don't know. I figured I asked you guys, you guys have kids that are older than me and you've taken them on this journey before. I just don't know which way to do.
- [39:06]
Chris Cody
I'll put you on a Star Wars.
- [39:07]
Billy
Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi. That's the first three you have to watch.
- [39:11]
Chris Cody
I will put you on a text string with Amino Hassan who is our resident Star wars expert, or John Amici and they will tell you the right way to go on this. It is not stupid. He is not our expert on this. Before we get Lethal Weapon 2, then.
- [39:25]
Mike Ryan
Bad Boys 3, then you go back to Lethal Weapon 1 to really appreciate the partnership.
- [39:31]
Chris Cody
Before we get to your semi, sure bet of the week, can you tell us what were the highlights of hosting the MLB awards show? I was surprised to see you pop up there.
- [39:41]
Mike Ryan
It was dope to see a lot of the players there, you know, who played around long really well. Man was Gary Sheffield, man. I got to give a shout out to Gary Sheffield. We had a joke in there where basically we cut to all the smiling players. You know, so many great smiling players including Gary Sheffield. Cut to classic Sheffield death stare. It was, it was probably one of the best jokes of the night. But just the gratitude of Mookie Betts to be able to show up there and show love to all the past and present players schemes was in attendance. We got Shota Imanaga to sing Go Cubs Go like and this, this man, his English is getting there. But when I tell you when it was trying to sing that damn song, he knew that damn song. And it was a beautiful thing. It truly was a beautiful thing to just see all the players kind of let their hair down. And I think what MLB is trying to do is eventually make this kind of like a players weekend kind of chill, pat each other on the back type situation before all the cy Youngs and MVPs get announced. But it was dope. It really was a good ass time, man.
- [40:49]
Stugatz
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Chris Cody
As baseball tries to get younger and bring in a younger demo that does it a little differently. Roy, did it feel ethnic? Did the award show embrace different cultures?
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Mike Ryan
Oh, absolutely. I mean, you had Clay up there, he was winning awards. That was one of the jokes we talked about that night, is that the game is so much more international now. I grew up when I watched baseball, I could pronounce all the names. You know, I grew up watching Days Harold and a dude named Oil can. And the Astros had a guy this past season named Kikuchi. And I don't even know if that's a word you can say on TV without saying the full name. So it's for sure way more international. My God, they played a game in Birmingham, they're going to a NASCAR track and then they're going to Tokyo. Like what's left?
- [41:50]
Chris Cody
What is your semi? Sure bet of the week, sir.
- [41:53]
Mike Ryan
Okay, so when a middle aged man faces off against an athlete 18 years or younger than him, the middle aged man wins. When old man beats young man, the attorney general nominee for that year and secretaries of defense get confirmed. So here's what I'm attaching this to. When old man beats young man, you get the president, gets the secretary to defense and the attorney general general that they want. Sasha Page, 59 years old, pitched three scoreless against the Red Sox. The new attorney General that year was confirmed. 1993, Nolan Ryan beat the piss out of Robin Ventura. Janet reno was confirmed. 1994, George Foreman, 45 years old, beat out Mike, beat Michael Moore, who was 19 younger that year, Secretary of Defense confirmed 2021, Phil Mickelson, 50 years old, paired with Brooks Captain Dam, 31 years old. Phil Mickelson won the PGA Championship by two strokes. That year. Merrick Garland and Lloyd Austin were confirmed. However, 1988 at the US Open in tennis, Jimmy Connors took on an 18 year old Andre Agassi and lost. A few years later The Secretary of Defense was rejected by the Senate. Now Mike Tyson lost to a younger LOGAN Paul. That's DePaul. He fought, right?
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Chris Cody
No, Jake. Jake Paul doesn't matter. Whichever one doesn't matter.
- [43:16]
Mike Ryan
Mike Tyson lost to a white boy. Okay? Mike Tyson got some money to dance in the ring with a white. We don't have time for that part of the situation. But point is, Mike Tyson lost. That means the dude from Fox News is not gonna run the Pentagon. Bad news is the backup for that dude in 88 was Dick Cheney. So now here's one telling you because we're not going to get the Defense secretary confirmed. You're going to get Hulk Hogan as your next defense secretary. Put everything you own on that right now. That is my semi sure bet of the week. And you have Jake Paul.
- [43:52]
Chris Cody
All right, put it on the poll. Juju, are you okay with Hulk Hogan as the Secretary of Defense?
- [43:58]
Billy
I think I would be.
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Chris Cody
Roy, thank you for being on with us. Have I got news for you. It's a very good show. It's on CNN Saturday, 9pm Eastern and Sundays on Max Season's Greetings podcast audience.
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Roy Wood Jr.
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