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Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugatz
We will dork out on baseball 6pm tonight on the YouTube channel. Tim Kirkjin and Friends is what we'll call it an evening with Tim Kirkjin where someone will talk to me about Chase Byrne striking out the first five Yankees that he faced yesterday and will care about it. Unlike the people in this room, none of whom care about any baseball topic. Billy, I'd love to have you tonight. Do you care about Chase Burns? I don't know whether you do.
Dan LeBatard
You do me. CB big guy. Big CB guy. Can I like, can I talk about like I didn't break the fourth wall of something I've been concerned about.
Jessica
You're good.
Dan LeBatard
So baseball's, baseball's leaving ESPN at the end of the year. They're not gonna have baseball anymore. I've been worried about Tim. Like are they still going to cover baseball as off as often or they because you would assume if they lose the sport, what is the baseball coverage going to look like at espn?
Billy
He'll be the last one there.
Stugatz
I I'm not totally informed on this, but I've heard enough of the sporting class with Sampson and Skipper to feel like the Manfred and baseball don't have much use for how it is that ESPN cares about baseball and Tim Kirchen is one of the few people still there fighting to care about baseball. Is that not obvious to everyone that baseball has shrunk to a very small size on espn?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, but that doesn't answer is but they still have him. Good. I'm worried about it.
Billy
They have they have analysts for sports that they don't have rights.
Jeremy
I mean doesn't it feel like he'll be Barry Melrose all these years before in between the NHL there forever.
Stugatz
Just there for as long as he'd like to be.
Billy
Bring him out to sports centers when the World Series is going on.
Dan LeBatard
I thought that a Peter Garron's.
Stugatz
Why'd you say that that way?
Dan LeBatard
Because then Peter. Peter Gammons was just off of espn. He left on his. That's what you always say.
Stugatz
Billy, would you like to partake in Tim Kirk night tonight?
Dan LeBatard
And you're really pressing for, like a commitment here.
Stugatz
I'm not really just asking if you'd like to be a part of it. You'll. We'll find out at six o' clock.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. What time? It starts at six.
Chris
Starts at six.
Dan LeBatard
What time is it?
Stugatz
Until it doesn't matter.
Dan LeBatard
No, no, no. I'm just. I'm telling you, as. As you know, we were discussing six. Six is really bad parent time at this age. It's feeding time, bath time. So I can hop on at some point. Yeah, that's what I think. I think late, later arriving.
Jeremy
Man, you better get that parent thing on lock like me.
Dan LeBatard
I can't, dude. I was telling Jeremy before. I was like, I don't know. You're. I don't know the age of your children. You have multiple children. I don't know how old they are.
Stugatz
13 and 16 years. And he's got it on lock.
Jeremy
Got them on lock.
Dan LeBatard
I told Jeremy once you get to like 10 and 8, you're good. I feel like then you've experienced everything. You're done parenting.
Jessica
Yeah.
Chris
You definitely can't ruin your kids past.
Dan LeBatard
That age by that point. You have it on lock by 10 and 8.
Stugatz
I want to stop all you guys for a second because I want to talk to Jessica about a couple of different things. But I also want to tell everybody that Zaslo again has to leave early today because this man right here, featured earlier in the show doing this in the streets of Miami, will anchor ESPN Radio's NBA draft coverage tonight.
Billy
Jess's face reaction to that book.
Jessica
That is.
Jeremy
You got something to say?
Mike Ryan
Looks like you're shooting a T shirt cannon.
Stugatz
It is.
Jessica
It is what it is.
Stugatz
It is the first time Zaz has ever opened champagne and he was bragging about it even though he shook it poorly.
Chris
Yeah.
Jeremy
And can I tell you something, Oklahoma City Thunder players? You can't figure out how to pop open that cork.
Dan LeBatard
Idiots.
Stugatz
Zaslo showed you. It's the first time he's ever done it, clearly from looking at him. But he will anchor ESPN Radio's NBA draft coverage tonight. I wanted to ask Jessica and The rest of you, though, before we just skip past the rest of this story involving the Arizona Diamondbacks second baseman Khalil. Oh, my God. I'm blanking. I'm sorry. Yes.
Billy
Marte almost made him Khalil Ware.
Chris
Yeah, that was what was happening.
Jessica
I got confused.
Stugatz
Thank you.
Jessica
Is that home or on the road?
Stugatz
He was sobbing during the game, and the game was interrupted while a fan heckled him about his late mother, who passed in a car accident in 2017. I am reading that the White Sox have banned that fan, but I don't know what ban means. That's not a lifetime ban until he dies. And I do wonder what the penalty for something like that should be.
Jeremy
I mean, you think it was checking the tickets? I'm sorry. Just like, do you think the guy just was checking the tickets? Got, like, a photo of this guy?
Mike Ryan
I do think they use, like, some stadiums use, like, facial recognition technology or they don't let you buy tickets. I don't know. Like, they block you from buying the ticket. I don't know exactly how they do the ban, but I do think that one of the punishments when someone does something like this should be that the people in your section get to heckle you out of the stadium like, you know, Steve Baartman style. Like, I wish that we still lived in a society where if I'm sitting next to a guy and they say something really shitty to a player, I can, like, boo in their face and scream at them until they leave.
Jessica
Well, they have that code that you got a text, right? Text 60555 unruly fans. Yeah. And then it's kind of like, do.
Billy
You guys ever send a text? You ever text it?
Jessica
Never.
Jeremy
I did one time when someone in my section was room for the other team. I text so and so. Room for their team.
Dan LeBatard
Really? They kick the person out.
Mike Ryan
Wait, was this Mike Ryan at a. In the Golden Canes box out of Miami?
Stugatz
You're allowed. Why would you not. Why would you tell on somebody rooting for the other team?
Jeremy
To me, as shit was unruly.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Did they get the person?
Jeremy
I don't think they took it serious.
Dan LeBatard
Wow.
Stugatz
What should. What should the penalty be, though, when she says public shame. Okay, there's that. You're allowed to sort of do some 1700 throwing of tomatoes, metaphorically.
Mike Ryan
Oh, that's a good idea. Metaphorically. Ketchup packets.
Stugatz
As they leave the.
Mike Ryan
Burn them in their face.
Stugatz
How long should that penalty be like that if you've made the. Because we've talked before about the idea That a penalty should be for the action, not the reaction. But this is in reaction to the second baseman breaking down, sobbing. And so if that is what happens, because you've crossed the line that thoroughly, what should the penalty actually be for that fan? I'm asking the question. Seriously.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, I think you have to ask that person. List all your dead relatives. You give it to the section and they heckle you about your dead relatives. An eye for an eye, like Uncle Mike used to say.
Billy
Oh, did you hear about that, Jess?
Mike Ryan
I did.
Stugatz
And of course, that would be her reaction.
Billy
If she's just a nice person. She might just say that if she just hears about a late. A late uncle. Anyone's late.
Mike Ryan
I had a dog without an eye.
Dan LeBatard
Really fun.
Stugatz
What happened?
Billy
Champagne bottle.
Mike Ryan
He did not drink champagne, but he did have some sort of infection, so we had to get his eyeball removed. And then they sewed it shut so he always looked like he was winking.
Jessica
Chris.
Dan LeBatard
Dogs. It's cute, though, because you can call the dog Cyclops, and then people aren't like, wow, you're making fun of a disabled dog. It's like, oh, what a cute name.
Billy
It wasn't that cute with Uncle Mike.
Jessica
Hold on for a second. We gotta ask this question. You said the dog's name is Eli?
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Jessica
Was his name Eli before he lost an eye?
Mike Ryan
Yes, he was a rescue. We didn't name him. I think he might have been named after Eli Manning.
Chris
Crazy coincidence.
Billy
That is.
Jessica
Book of Eli.
Izzy
Book of Eli.
Jessica
Two eyes didn't work there.
Stugatz
Did you just say fun? Chris, when she said the dog had a glass eye, was fun what you said? I think.
Mike Ryan
Wait, no, the dog did not have a glass eye. Peter Falk had a glass eye. Daniel Columbo, famously, glass eye. The dog just didn't have an eye.
Billy
There is something endearing and I would say fun. You see a dog with a little deformity. It's like, oh, that's so adorable.
Mike Ryan
It was a really cute.
Billy
Thank you. You see a dog hopping with three legs.
Jessica
That.
Billy
I'm like, that is so.
Dan LeBatard
A dog with two legs. You call it.
Jeremy
I'm not trying to get one of those dogs.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Would you return.
Mike Ryan
They love you just the same as dogs with two eyes and four legs.
Chris
Yes.
Stugatz
Did you say, would I return it?
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Like, if you adopted a dog and all of a sudden you lost a leg, you go inside.
Stugatz
Dan seems like he would return it.
Jessica
There's a receipt.
Dan LeBatard
I think you're right.
Jessica
I mean, there is. There's definitely a receipt right on like in the first 30 days if it doesn't work out.
Stugatz
I don't think. I don't think that people generally look at the specific deformity of three legs and say, oh, adorable. As opposed to. That's a difficult way to go through life. You think adorable is the reaction people have to three legged dogs?
Billy
The noise that Jess made when we brought up Uncle Mike, that's what I do.
Chris
I agree. Two legs. Two legs. Now I'm thinking about how difficult it might be, but three legs, that's how pretty cute.
Dan LeBatard
Now two legs. You got a wheels? Well, it depends on the two, I suppose. Also, like, guys, we gotta stop making.
Izzy
Light of this front wheel drive.
Dan LeBatard
This isn't funny. These are things that happen to people. Peter Falk lost his eye to cancer as a child. Like, I don't know what these jokes are all about. We're no better than that person that was at the game picking up the forte.
Stugatz
I believe that Jessica's sound wasn't just because Uncle Mike had a glass eye. I believe that awe was also because he couldn't find one that was the color of the other.
Mike Ryan
No, the all was because you were all making fun of Uncle Mike. And now I feel bad because he, God rest his soul, is being talked about and made fun of on a radio show years after passing shout out to Uncle Mike.
Dan LeBatard
Crazy devil. Praise his soul.
Chris
Coincidence here is that my dad is named Eli and he also almost lost his eye when he was in the ninth grade at Miami Beach High School. Someone threw, there was a substitute and someone threw one of the, you know, like the dry eraser, the chalkboard eraser. Someone threw it across the classroom and it literally flew all the way and hit him in the corner of the eye. And he had to go get surgery immediately.
Dan LeBatard
Classic hijinks.
Jessica
Terrible, terrible reaction time from your dad.
Chris
Awful, right? He just didn't even know it was coming. And then all of a sudden, there it was.
Stugatz
I wanted to talk to Pablo about this and I failed. But the mayor of New York thing was a little bit surprising in that Cuomo has the family name that he is now disgraced. And Cuomo had all of the fundraising advant, the incumbent advantages every advantage you can have and got swamped.
Jessica
Got.
Stugatz
Got totally crushed. And I don't know if people saw that coming. But did you see it coming, Jessica?
Mike Ryan
No. Because as recently as like a week ago, I think Cuomo is still polling ahead of the second place candidate. This is just for the Democratic primary, which was yesterday in New York City. The election is in November. But normally the Democratic primary primary winner wins the election because New York tends to vote Democrat for mayor. But Eric Adams is obviously still in office and decided he's going to run as an independent now after he was indicted. So the race was sort of wide open on the Democratic side. And yes, Zoran Mamdani, who is an assemblyman, sort of came from behind in this race. He was pulling really low at the beginning of the year. And then turns out if you run a campaign based on a vision for the future of New York and getting young people mobilized about a city that, that they may actually want to live in versus fear mongering and just sort of presenting the same tired ideas of, you know, the New York City that Cuomo was running to lead then. Yeah, I guess people get mobilized and they want to vote for the young, hot, exciting candidate.
Stugatz
Cuomo had all the institutional endorsements, he had the polling lead and to get swamped.
Jessica
He also had a bunch of scandals.
Mike Ryan
Yes, I mean, and, and it should be disqualifying. I mean, I read a really great op ed in the Guardian about Cuomo is just basically the Democratic version of Donald Trump running for mayor amid sexual harassment scandals. He resigned in disgrace. He lied about nursing home numbers during COVID and death, the death toll. And that he didn't apologize for any of this during his campaign. He was just like, yeah, I don't, I'm going to be the mayor. And he saw a real opportunity to get back in the fold in New York City politics. And New York politics obviously comes from a long family of, of politicians. His dad was the governor of New York for, for decades. So yes, it was. I absolutely should be something that is disqualifying. And so I think the, the lesson, what the lesson should be, I guess. And again, I'm not like a political expert. I'm just like a person who is following this. I'm a sports idiot with a phone.
Stugatz
You live in New York. Your qualifications are you live in New York and you're coming to broadcasting live New York.
Mike Ryan
And I want New York to be affordable place to live. That's my qualification. The takeaway should be that like if you want an alternative to Donald Trump on as a Democrat, then don't just like find a cheap Democratic version of him. Maybe find someone that people are excited about voting for. So yeah, when the establishment was all back in Cuomo, it seemed like it would be tough to overcome that, but people were really excited to vote for someone new. And so yeah, Mamdani won the primary and Cuomo succeeded or appears to have won the primary. It's ranked choice, so they're still counting votes, obviously. But Cuomo conceived. Conceded on at 10 o' clock on Tuesday night while I was watching the Fever Storm game.
Jessica
But. But, Jessica, you. You brought up the most important point, which is he didn't concede as a man. You got it. Wow, you really ran a great campaign. Is like, I want to be a Democrat anyway, is basically how he conceded.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, he might still run as an independent. He's. He's sort of left the door open. And it's very. But again, like, it should be the kind of thing where Democrats want to claim, like, you have the moral superiority and high ground compared to what the Republicans have been doing in elections for the last decade. Then I find a candidate who actually has ideas and not just someone who runs on power and represents power. Momdani's ideas are like free buses and like, freeze on rent. Freeze on, you know, rent, stable apartments, things like that. And it's like, well, is he even going to be able to do that? I don't know. But at least he has an idea. At least, like, his ideas sound like things that would help everyday people. So, yeah, I mean, maybe he's not going to be able to do any of that, but I think it's at least something that people that live in New York City are like, oh, that would be great if I, you know, had a free bus ride instead of having to pay for it.
Stugatz
We're going to get to Jessica's top five things to do at a Baseball game in a second. But Zaslo's got to go because again, this is anchoring today's ESPN Radio draft coverage for the next few hours. Very serious coverage. Right, Zaslo? We're doing. I mean, it's not just going to be Cooper Flag.
Jeremy
What about this would tell you it's not serious and confident?
Stugatz
Okay, ESPN Radio, go ahead. I know you have to go.
Mike Ryan
I'm looking good.
Stugatz
You are looking.
Jeremy
Thanks, Jess.
Stugatz
Uh, you're looking very confident as. As well. Look at Jeremy, big smile on his face. Look how happy he is that I just love him. Zaslow's leaving and there's more room to talk.
Mike Ryan
Wow, the wedding singer.
Chris
I can't even be excited.
Stugatz
Jeremy will be partaking in the 6pm coverage that Billy may or may not partake in.
Chris
Yeah, you're going to hear all about the recently acquired Colby Martin, a former Division 3 second baseman who was an All American, a board or something. Now is a Marlins pitching prospect traded.
Dan LeBatard
For Today I like, will not be joining.
Stugatz
Do we want to play friend or co worker with Jess before we get to her top five things to do at a baseball game? Because who's hosting this game? I want to get back to it. Who's the game show host on Friend or co worker? Pablo Torre.
Jessica
Who the is the. What is you okay.
Dan LeBatard
Hello.
Billy
Hey, Billy.
Stugatz
Hello, Billy.
Dan LeBatard
Welcome to another edition of Friend or coworker. Now this is. This is a special celebrity edition of Friend or co worker. In the past, as you all know, this game is reserved for Greg Cody. Does Greg Cody consider someone a friend or a co worker? But now on the celebrity edition, we're gonna bring in Jessica. Welcome, celebrity Jessica.
Pablo Torre
Woo.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God.
Stugatz
I wanted to play this game.
Dan LeBatard
You can check out Jessica on Vice sometimes.
Mike Ryan
Oh, yeah, Vice tv.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. I don't have all the details the TV show. So I just thought.
Mike Ryan
Watch your back.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, watch your back. The guest is threatening you. So. All right, Chris and Dan are the participants, as. As usual. But this again is a celebrity edition. So does Jessica consider Pablo a friend or a co worker? Now, Dan, you have to say friend or co worker. And then Chris says friend or coworker? And then I get an answer from Jessica. Jessica, does she consider Pablo?
Stugatz
Thank you. And. And so far, we've all had ties in this game. So far, nothing but ties.
Dan LeBatard
The history of this game, we've had two games and both times have ended in a tie. Oddly.
Stugatz
Before we ask Jessica, though, did we not want to go around the room at what you guys consider Pablo a friend or a co worker?
Jessica
That's not the game.
Stugatz
That's not the game.
Dan LeBatard
We could have done that. But that's a different game.
Jessica
Okay.
Stugatz
That's a different game. I'm gonna say that Jessica thinks of Pablo as a friend.
Billy
I'm gonna say co worker.
Stugatz
Whoa, this isn't gonna be.
Billy
I think she hates Pablo.
Chris
Whoa, this is.
Dan LeBatard
Now you're making it a thing. She's gonna have to say friend. She put her in a corner.
Jessica
It doesn't have to be hating.
Stugatz
It can just be a co worker.
Jessica
You could hate your friend too.
Dan LeBatard
Now, quickly, before we go on, Amin, would you like to describe to the audience who have just joined us what you would consider a friend and what you would consider a co worker.
Jessica
A coworker is someone that I interact with only within the confines of work. A friend is someone that I would actually hang out with without needing a work.
Stugatz
But that is why I thought that Greg Cody thought of Roy as a co worker because I thought he was being polite when he called him a friend because he wouldn't hang out with him anywhere but at work.
Dan LeBatard
That's the.
Jessica
See, the birthday.
Billy
Now, is there a thing of. I haven't done it yet, but I would.
Stugatz
Nobody wouldn't. Your father would not hang out with Roy.
Jessica
No.
Stugatz
He would not go somewhere to just hang out and have lunch with Roy.
Jessica
Yes, he would, if Roy wanted. The question should have been, does Roy consider him a friend of Cole?
Dan LeBatard
Roy went on a boat for Greg, but also it was an open bar, so open bar is kind of disqualifying sometimes.
Jessica
Was it a free lunch?
Billy
Free meal? Yeah.
Pablo Torre
It was a buffet.
Billy
Yeah.
Jessica
No, I'm just saying he's saying he'd never go to lunch with us. Is it a free lunch?
Dan LeBatard
I mean, just out of curiosity, would you consider Pablo a friend or coworker?
Jessica
Well, I'm not playing. I'm not a contestant.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, good, Jessica. Very good. All right. So, Jessica, we ran out of music. On this edition of Celebrity Friend or co Worker, do you consider Pablo Torre a friend or co worker?
Mike Ryan
Friend.
Dan LeBatard
Liar.
Billy
Question mark.
Stugatz
I'm not sure.
Billy
Everyone's afraid to play this game. We just need David Samson foe worker. He's the only one that can play.
Stugatz
Faux Worker is good middle ground.
Jessica
David Samson can play this game because he has no friends.
Stugatz
Yes.
Jessica
That's why they're all coworkers, every one of them.
Mike Ryan
And David Sampson being friends with Pablo puts Pablo more in the co worker category. For me, I think.
Stugatz
Wow.
Jessica
For David Samson would be called co worker employee.
Dan LeBatard
And that'll do it for another edition of Fred.
Stugatz
Thank you. We get to the top five things to do at a baseball game with Jess. And tonight you can watch all of them with us with Tim Kirkchen. An evening with Tim Kirkshen begins 6:00pm tonight on YouTube.
Billy
Jess, you want to stop by which.
Stugatz
Of his friends and co workers we have stopped by? Jessica, you're invited. Everyone invited.
Mike Ryan
Maybe I will. Enough of this big dumper guy, by the way. I'm sick of him.
Stugatz
Do we have any Oli, or is it just going straight to the top five?
Mike Ryan
I take a picture with your coworker and his girlfriend that people online will think is evidence that you're dating him.
Jessica
That's something to do.
Mike Ryan
It is something that may have happened at the Cubs game on Friday with Taylor. Number five. Sounds like a couple of things to do at a. At a baseball game. Five Watch baseball.
Jessica
Really?
Stugatz
I did not think that would crack. The top five.
Billy
Should have been lower.
Mike Ryan
Number four, Do a lap around the concourse looking for food. Make it back to your seat empty handed. Do it again an inning later, having settled on whichever option had the shortest line.
Stugatz
Always now, is there not such a thing as great baseball ballpark food anymore? Are you guys saying that you can't find, you can't find good food at the ballpark?
Jessica
It's not about not finding good food. It's about which line is the shortest.
Mike Ryan
Exactly. It's about you wander around and you're like, do I want nachos? Do I want a hot dog? Do I want Italian beef? Do I? I don't know. I don't know what I want. I'm going to go back to my seat. And then you get up again and you're like, screw it, I'm just going to get this one because there's no one in line.
Billy
Not a problem. Not a problem at the Marlins.
Chris
We had Flanagan's at the Marlins games.
Mike Ryan
The other day and there's no lines because no one's there. Jeremy, get it off.
Stugatz
I thought, though that the, if you're choosing to go to the ballpark and the ballpark food experience is good, no line would suggest, I don't want to be eating that food. There's good. That's the reason there are lines for it. It's the worst ballpark food, you're saying is worth eating even if you're there for part of the culinary experience.
Mike Ryan
I mean, I don't know if anyone that goes to Cubs games is there for the culinary experience.
Billy
You for sure don't say it that way. If you are on a hot dog, that's a pop.
Mike Ryan
Hello, I'm here for the culinary experience. Here's my ticket.
Stugatz
I believe, and I may have this wrong, but I don't think I'm among baseball fans now. Wrigley Field, maybe it's been modernized. It did not have good food. I'm going to say half the ballparks in America. People are there at least in part because the food's really good. It's not okay. It's really good.
Jessica
Wait a second time. Half the people are going to baseball games. Hey, where you going? Baseball games. I'm not saying that.
Stugatz
I'm saying half the ballparks. I'm guessing the 10 to 14 of the ballparks are ballparks that people enjoy eating there. I'm going to say San Francisco is one of them.
Mike Ryan
I think. I think you have this wrong. I think it's not that they're there to eat at them. I think it's like this is a special treat that I associate with being at the ball game. Like, I'm not going to the game to get a big hot dog, but, like, when I'm there, I am also entertained by the big hot dog.
Dan LeBatard
Like, 50% of the people at Marlins games didn't have the conversation before. So prime 112 or center field Marlin concession stand tonight.
Stugatz
Marlins is a bad example. Cheap on food. The Marlins have gone cheap on food.
Jessica
I know what he's talking about. I've been to Oracle, where the. Where the Giants play. They do have great food for a ballpark. What I'm saying to you is there is not a soul in that park who's there for the food. They're there for the game. And now that their game, let's have some good food. But they're not there for the food. They could have just gone, number three.
Mike Ryan
Number three, start filling out a scorecard and then give up by the third inning.
Chris
Never.
Billy
They still have that in the program?
Stugatz
Oh, yeah. Number two.
Mike Ryan
Number two, sing Take me out to the ball game.
Stugatz
You guys singers? Do you guys sing it?
Billy
Then I will.
Chris
What do you think?
Mike Ryan
And then you scream, cubby.
Stugatz
Wrigley Field does it better than most.
Billy
I'd say better than all.
Stugatz
Number one.
Mike Ryan
I would also say that the number one thing to do at a baseball game. Get a buzz on, go to the team store. Oh, my God. The time of your life.
Jessica
Saw that on her Instagram story.
Mike Ryan
Everything looks cute when you're a little buzzed at the Cubs game, Jessica.
Stugatz
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
Except Taylor. Why are people so weird about that?
Stugatz
Put it on the poll. Batard show. Put it on the poll. Do you like to get buzzed at the merch store?
Jessica
Also noticed you called Taylor a co worker, not a friend.
Mike Ryan
True.
Jessica
What's that about?
Chris
Trying to throw you off the scent.
Dan LeBatard
David Sampson, friend or coworker.
Stugatz
Thank you, Jessica. I thought we were done playing that game. Foe worker, ladies and gentlemen.
Dan LeBatard
No, she just labeled him a foe.
Mike Ryan
Just foe.
Stugatz
That concludes Falk. Falk. You, David Sampson, is what it feels like that game has begun. Become. I mean, before we get to oddball and the serious draft coverage that you and Izzy are about to provide, what is funny about the draft tonight?
Jessica
What's funny is Ace Bailey, what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing, but I kind of feel like it's genius, whatever it is. He went from the number three pick to, like, who knows where he's going to go now?
Izzy
Like, you can't draft him.
Dan LeBatard
He didn't work out for anybody. What do we do?
Stugatz
Oddball breaks it down better than that. Next.
Chris
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Izzy
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Mike Ryan
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Jessica
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Mike Ryan
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Dan LeBatard
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Jessica
Hey, guys. NBA draft is today, right? Interested? You excited for that?
Pablo Torre
Izzy, you know when I get excited for the NBA draft on NBA draft day. Oh, well, today's NBA, so, yes, I'm excited.
Jessica
Get excited. And you know, Sean Charani went on Pat McAfee show almost a month ago, and he predicted that this is going to be the craziest off season ever. The team executives have been anticipating this, and everybody's so excited now. Obvious. See, a lot has happened since May 27, Izzy. We have a new champion. Our runner up lost their key contributor. And there have been a couple of big deals that have happened, right, with Kevin Durant and. And Desmond Bain in the off season. And Pat Connor picked up his option. Let's not forget that one.
Dan LeBatard
Right?
Jessica
What we decided to do is that the producers have devised this grid. It's a draft grid, right, where it's a gradient to preview which teams are going to be the big players tonight. So left on the x axis, we have inactive, meaning they're just gonna take their pick and use it, and that's it. Versus very active, meaning, hey, wheeling and dealing. And then on the Y axis, we have care a lot. Like, oh, yeah, like this is gonna be something that makes people start talking to. Nobody gives a. Don't care all the way at the bottom.
Pablo Torre
So Sacramento Kings neighborhood.
Jessica
Well, let's see. We'll see where it goes. Let's see what teams they have for us. So first up we have the Dallas Mavericks. They have the number one overall pick. It's all reports that it's going to be Cooper Flag. Is that. I mean, to me that means they're inactive, right? Like they're just.
Pablo Torre
This is the whole difficulty with the Dallas Mavericks is what do they believe? Like, where do they believe they are in their pursuit of a championship? Are they on a big pause because of the Kyrie Irving injury? Are they saying, hey, we are just getting started and we're going to hit the track running because we've got Anthony Davis, a defensive player potentially of the year. We've got another potential number one overall pick in Cooper Flag and we've got Kyrie coming back. If they are thinking that they want to win right now still, I think there might be some thought of activity like they might otherwise. Sorry, they might be. Want to go to the active route, right?
Jessica
Yeah. Active, yeah. I'm with you. I agree. I think, look, one of the names that have been attached to them because of the Kyrie injury is Chris Paul. Chris Paul, who's probably going to be the odd man out in San Antonio now that when Wemby comes back healthy, you got Dear and Fox, you know, you kind of don't need Chris Paul anym. Meanwhile, Dallas is like, yeah, we could use a guy like that for maybe the whole season, maybe just most of the season, depending on when Kyrie Irving returns. So if I'm the Dallas Mavericks, I'm going to be active. It may not be around my pick. The pick's still going to be Cooper Flag. But yeah, right around there is good.
Pablo Torre
Okay, so I like that active, just not around the pick. So you can still somehow, by having a fill stop gap in Chris Paul, still sort of nurture the young Cooper Flag and let him be a part of what could be a championship run. Start right off the bat.
Jessica
Yeah, I think, I think this is a case where he's an understudy. They. They're going to try and compete for a championship and he's around to learn good habits from good vets. And then one day, kids, kid, the keys are yours. This whole kingdom is yours. But not quite yet. And you know, there's another conversation for another day of is that the best way to develop someone? But the question is now for us, is he. Do we care a lot or do we not care at all?
Pablo Torre
I think because they have the number one pick, we automatically care because if they move it, we want to know, hey, where the heck is that pick moving? If they do move it, we also, hey, wait a second. How crazy is Nico Harrison after all? No. Okay, well, I don't care that much to touch the ceiling there because I don't think a Cooper flag is going to make that big of a difference even if Kyrie Irving does come back at some point, whatever. January, February of next year. And honestly there's just question marks in terms of what type of player he will be in the league. You've heard like Scottie Pippen comparisons, like I think a lot of times with the one and done, you don't see the whole bag. You don't see the entire resume played out in that first year. So we still need to see, see how he looks. He could like when he played for Team usa, everybody thought he was great. He was like the most talked about player there. So he could be even better than we think. So maybe they do have championship aspirations if he turns out to be, you know, a 20 point a game rookie.
Jessica
Yeah, I like him right there. Right where we got it, right in that midpoint. I think we care because the Mavericks, because we're going to care anyway because of the Luca trade is always going to be a spotlight on and what are y' all up to since. Since you traded your franchise players. So we're gonna always care. All right, I mentioned the spurs and Chris Paul perhaps leaving. Let's talk about the Spurs. Is he. They have the second pick and the 14th pick. There's two lottery picks. They're gonna make picks at both spots.
Pablo Torre
You think that would be. See this one, like they could just fill out the roster. They could talk or look at it like an OKC situation and say, hey, we know we're building about Brown, Victor, we've got another all Star there and Foxy and we can just load up and take both of these draft picks, picks and see what happens. But I think there's enough intrigue around this team to where they can look around and say, hey, what type of veteran can we get here? Obviously it's not going to be Kevin Durant anymore, but who can we get here to maybe speed this timeline up a little bit? Because obviously with Victor Wembanyam, you've got all the time in the world, but with Darren Fox, maybe not also with Victor, we're a little scared because he's got the blood clot in his shoulder. So I think they're probably going to be looking for somebody else in that front court who can carry them if they have to miss some time with Vicky.
Jessica
Yeah, I mean, look, first of all, I hope the blood clot issue is cleared up and he's fine and ready to go. And. And that's just a thing of the past. De' Aaron Fox is in the last year of his deal, so, you know, there is a version of urgency to figure something out here. Maybe it's a replacement, maybe it's something that pushes him forward. Maybe he's going to sign an extension this summer and all this is rendered moot. Stefan Castle, obviously, he had a great year. Rookie of the year. You got Jeremy Sohan, who is in the last year of his deal. You've got Devin Vassell, who's long term sign, and Keldon Johnson, who's got two more years on his deal. So that's pretty much your core right there. If you're the San Antonio Spurs. I kind of feel like this is one of those ones. If they can get a young vet, they'll make a move. But it's kind of like he's still kind of in the accumulation. So I'm saying less active. Less active. Let's go. Yeah. Maybe towards the next active a little bit more.
Pablo Torre
Okay.
Jessica
Yeah.
Pablo Torre
I do care a lot, though. Anything with Victor Wembanyama makes it interesting.
Jessica
I don't care.
Pablo Torre
Okay. You care less than the Mavs?
Jessica
Yeah, I care definitely less than the maps because it's a young team and it's like there still is the. The birth for. Oh, we won 40 games. That's a massive success for us. And like, you know what?
Pablo Torre
You're right. Bring it down right. Just under the. On the care, don't care. The X axis. Because if they would have gotten Kevin Durant, I'm like, no, I mean, I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. Now I'm just like, all right, let's see what they can do. Not interested. I like where we have them.
Jessica
All right, next up, we got the Philadelphia 76ers, everyone's favorite punching bag. The Sixers have the third pick of the draft. Are they gonna stay? Are they gonna go? Let's start with the caring. I think I care a lot. I think I'm all the way to the top.
Pablo Torre
More than average, for sure. I would go close to the top.
Jessica
You're moving the wrong way, Chance. Up, up, up, up. There you go. Reason being, I mean, Reason being because it's such a show. How can you not care? How can you not care? Think about the season they had, and they had an awful season. We cared, though. We cared that the, oh, that pick is going Oklahoma City. Unless it's in the.
Pablo Torre
Like, they're the Real Housewives. They're the reality show. Everybody can't help but keep their eyes on.
Jessica
What's going to happen to Joel Embiid, what's going to happen to Paul George. All of these questions are going to keep swirling and swirling and swirling. Paul George will keep podcasting through it, bless his heart. Like the third pick that they use it to the trail. I don't know. I don't. But I know I care.
Pablo Torre
There's also this interesting like. Like Ace Bailey is one of the strangest draft prospects in the Wild. Like, won't work out for the Sixers. Seems to be, like, very specific about where he would want to go. I don't know about you. I mean, I would love to go to a team that's ready made for a championship if everybody stays healthy.
Jessica
Well, no, but see, I wouldn't if I was Ace Bailey. Because my thing is. Yeah, my thing is I want to go and play and shoot a million times and, and have freedom to be one of the best players on my team. I don't want to go somewhere where it's like, oh, I made a mistake situation.
Pablo Torre
Let me be more specific. I think, think any franchise or any player coming into a draft would want to go to a franchise that they trust, that they know will take care of them and whether or not they're in a championship mode. Wow. I just talked myself out of the 70s. Is that what people really think about the 76ers? Because I thought it was just Joel Embiid's fault, like, or is the organization supposed to be strong enough where you should be able to, I don't know, control a player who doesn't really seem to take things as seriously?
Jessica
Look, it's. It's what it was a while ago. But Roy Hibbert was on a podcast and he was talking about coaching and why he hated it. It was the worst year of his basketball life, working as a coach and he was working for the Sixers and he was talking about. He never didn't mention any specific names, but he said you couldn't hold anybody accountable. We start practice and a big time player would not be at practice. And we're like, where is he? No one knew. And then he would show up late and he's like, yeah, I don't feel like practicing today is that no one held anyone accountable. And so. So again, that was a different regime, and it was a while ago, but some of the.
Pablo Torre
So they should be active is what you're saying. Like, dangle that number three pick out there. Because if I want Ace Bailey, Ace Bailey doesn't want to come here. I'm not going to deal with that. I'll just go get a vet.
Jessica
Daryl More is always, always when you're wondering he's on the side of activity, put him right there. There you go. That's good for me. For the Sixers. Next one up. What do we got, Izzy?
Pablo Torre
This one's super interesting to me. It's the Oklahoma City Thunder. I don't know if you heard, they won the championship this week and they have the 15th and the 24th picks because, of course, they have. Have all the draft picks, and they have 11 firsts overall in the next five years. Okay, so a championship team, a team that's done it with a very flexible salary situation because they have a bunch of young players. Do they keep collecting players and just, hey, just add them to the back of the train and keep going, or do they sort of collect and try to improve upon this team and really sort of take that next gear and create championship. I would say almost like dynasty, rather. I would say almost like. Like the Kevin Durant trade, right? Turn the warriors from a championship team to, you know, dynasty over a handful of years, right? You, the Thunder, try to package this and maybe a Chet Holmgren and say, hey, Giannis, come on over here. Make us a. A dynasty or anybody else out there, even a Joel, somebody else, to sort of upgrade in a way that nobody saw coming.
Jessica
I. You know what? I. I don't see that happening. And the reason I don't see that happening is they've got a great kind of cascading salary situation where they've got a bunch of people who contract. So Alex Crusoe is under contract long term. Shay, Gil Alexander, Aaron Wiggins, like Isaiah Joe, they've got those guys under contract. You got to give an extension to Jalen Williams soon, and you got to give an extension to Chet Holmgren soon. And by the way, Lou Dort also has only, I guess, two years left, but he's extension eligible as well. So I think this is one of those things where do I use. Use picks to package and get someone with cost certainty, right? Not necessarily like, oh, this massive upgrade to town, but just a little bit of cost certainty. I don't know. I don't know.
Pablo Torre
If they're inactive, they're down there in the don't care corner. If they're active, I'm intrigued because they're going to be making a move that nobody expected.
Jessica
I'll tell you right now, unless it's like a massive deal, I think it still don't care.
Pablo Torre
Anything short of Yadas.
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Summary of "Hour 2: Top 5 Things to Do At a Baseball Game (feat. Jessica Smetana)"
Released on June 25, 2025
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with a brief mention of an upcoming baseball-focused event on YouTube titled “Tim Kirkjin and Friends” at 6 PM. Stugotz humorously teases the group's general disinterest in baseball topics, highlighting Tim Kirkjin’s dedication to the sport despite their lack of enthusiasm.
Notable Quote:
Dan brings up a significant concern: ESPN's decision to drop baseball coverage by the end of the year. This sparks a discussion about the potential decline in baseball's presence on the network and the fate of dedicated analysts like Tim Kirkjin.
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The conversation shifts to an incident involving the Arizona Diamondbacks' second baseman Khalil, who was heckled by a fan during a game. The panel debates appropriate penalties for such behavior, exploring current measures like text codes (e.g., 60555 for unruly fans) and proposing more community-driven punishments.
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The hosts and guests share personal stories related to the topic, including Mike Ryan’s experience with his father nearly losing an eye due to a classroom accident. This segues into discussions about empathy and sensitivity when addressing fans' inappropriate behavior.
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The panel briefly touches on the New York mayoral race, particularly focusing on Cuomo’s unexpected loss despite his initial advantages. They analyze factors contributing to his downfall, including scandals and the rise of younger, more dynamic candidates like Zoran Mamdani.
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The episode includes several advertisements and sponsor segments, promoting brands like Gametime, Zyn, and Liquid IV. These segments are seamlessly integrated into the conversation, maintaining the show's casual tone.
Notable Mentions:
In a lighthearted segment, the hosts play a celebrity edition of "Friend or Co-Worker," featuring Jessica Smetana. The game involves determining whether colleagues are friends or merely coworkers, leading to humorous exchanges and playful banter.
Notable Quotes:
The highlight of the episode is Jessica Smetana presenting her Top 5 Things to Do at a Baseball Game. She provides practical and entertaining tips for enhancing the baseball game experience, drawing from personal experiences and audience interactions.
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Transitioning from baseball, the hosts shift focus to the NBA Draft. They analyze various teams' strategies, player prospects like Cooper Flag, and the implications of recent trades involving stars like Kevin Durant. The discussion is enriched by insights into team dynamics and future championship potentials.
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As the episode wraps up, final advertisements are aired, including promotions for Sleep Number Smart Beds and a humorous exchange about NBA draft prospects. The hosts maintain their signature blend of humor and insightful commentary until the end of the episode.
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Conclusion:
In this episode, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz engage in a multifaceted discussion covering the declining presence of baseball on ESPN, fan behavior at games, political commentary on the New York mayoral race, and interactive segments like "Friend or Co-Worker." The highlight is Jessica Smetana's Top 5 Things to Do at a Baseball Game, offering listeners valuable tips to enhance their game-day experience. Additionally, the panel provides insightful analysis on the NBA Draft, blending sports expertise with entertaining banter. Throughout the episode, notable quotes with timestamps ensure that key moments are highlighted, making the summary both comprehensive and engaging for those who haven't listened to the full podcast.