Hour 2: Valerie's Lack Of Trust #FlyCommercial #ServeOthers

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Hour 2: Valerie's Lack Of Trust #FlyCommercial #ServeOthers
Date: January 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

In Hour 2, broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew deliver their trademark blend of sports, pop culture, and personal stories with plenty of irreverence and inside jokes. The episode moves through reactions to Lane Kiffin’s public contrition, college football’s business transformation, the value (or lack thereof) of NBA stars like Trae Young, competitive work relationships, and a recurring thread on trust—and sleep—particularly within marriages and professional circles. Memorable moments include frank conversations about money in college sports, a hilarious sleep confessional, and sharp commentary on shifting sports landscapes.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Lane Kiffin’s Public Contrition and Social Optics

• Lane Kiffin’s Hashtag Regret:
  The show opens with Mike Ryan ridiculing Lane Kiffin’s attempt at public apology after being caught with a grocery basket, as Kiffin posts hashtags like #returnbasket, #saveenvironment, #setexampleforkids, #flycommercial, and #serveothers.

  • Mike Ryan (00:08): “The way Mike Ryan says that Lane Kiffin is capable of regret doesn't seem to fit with the entirety of his personality... I don't think he's doing very much in the way of regret... He has not had an exit that isn't like this anywhere. It’s sort of like, if he was going to learn the lessons from it, he would have learned them.”
  • Dan Le Batard (00:37): “Moving to another SEC school is difficult... this is a huge part of his legacy. And for a guy that had like one of the big oopsies when it came to doing this, he somehow made it worse. This is worse than leaving Tennessee in the way that he did.”

• Impact on College Football’s Brand:
  The panel discusses how, despite ongoing controversies and an epidemic of program-hopping coaches, fans remain engaged and TV ratings continue to soar.

  • Zaslow (02:42): “These people love it as much as they have ever, ever loved anything.”

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2. The Money Tsunami in College Football

• Fans, Donors, and Open Capitalism:
  The conversation shifts to the escalating arms race in college sports, with wealthy alumni and donors shaping programs more than ever.

  • Mike Ryan (05:04): Plays a sound clip of Arizona State Coach Kenny Dillingham begging for a $20 million check to change the program’s fortunes.
  • Kenny Dillingham, ASU (05:14): “We need to find one of these really rich people in this city to step up and stroke a check... There's somebody out here who can. There's somebody.”
  • Mike Ryan (06:28): “You say it's amazing, it's dumb. Because as I've said for a long time, please allow all of these rich people to compete against each other for money, begging for a quarterback instead of a donor begging to pay a quarterback.”
  • Zaslow (07:11): “You don't think Stephen Ross would call up the Cincinnati Bengals and say, hey... I'm going to give you $500 million. Right now, you just give us Joe Burrow.”

• College Equities vs. Pro Sports Restrictions:
  The freedom of college donors to do things pro owners can’t (e.g., directly buying players) fascinates—and sometimes rankles—the crew.

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3. Sideline Assignments and Over-Competitive Friendships

• Ambition and Backstabbing:
  Zaslow shares a comically honest confession of trying to steal Evan Cohen’s sideline assignment for an ESPN game broadcast and the politics involved.
  • Zaslow (08:06): “I went behind his back. I tried to steal that job. It's really simple. That's literally what happened. I decided rather than ask for permission, beg for forgiveness.”
  • Zaslow (09:43): “What if me and Amber Wilson, we'll just do our shtick. We'll do the sidelines together.”
  • Mike Ryan (09:34, ribbing): “Or the forgiveness.”
  • Discussion follows on how personal ambition, even among friends, can breed awkwardness and competition both on the air and behind-the-scenes.

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4. Valerie’s Lack of Trust—Mike Ryan’s Sleep Confession

• Marital Distrust and Sleep Habits:
  Mike Ryan tells a story about offering to accompany his wife to a classical music performance, only to be told she doesn't trust him not to fall asleep. This segues into a hilarious segment on public napping.

  • Mike Ryan (10:31): “My wife bought tickets to a classical music performance... I said to her, I'll go with you... And she doesn't trust me to not fall asleep.”
    • Memorable Poll: “Can you be trusted to not fall asleep at the classical music performance?”
  • Mike Ryan (11:14): “I fell asleep on. When we were in New York, I did fall asleep. You fell asleep during a Broadway show? Not only did I fall asleep during a Broadway show, I fell asleep during Jon Stewart.”
  • Zaslow (11:36): “You went to the head bob.”
  • Mike Ryan (11:37): “No, so asleep that the head didn't even bob to wake me up. I just fell asleep.”
  • Dan Le Batard (12:23): “I'm a zombie for what feels like an eternity. But really it's just 17 minutes.”

• Cultural Debate Over Head-Bob Sleep:
  The group polls the audience on whether nodding-off-sleep ("the head bob") is enjoyable or not, drawing out relatable humor and self-deprecation.

  • Mike Ryan (13:18): “Put it on the poll... Do you like the sleep where your head is nodding and then waking you up on its descent?”
  • Dan Le Batard (13:26): “It's kind of weird because I hate it, but I also kind of like it.”
  • (*Throughout 10:31–13:41: Various exchanges about the shame and comfort of public naps and sleep.)

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5. NBA Quick Hits—Durant’s Persecution Complex and Trae Young’s Diminished Value

• Kevin Durant’s “Kicked Out” Narrative:
  After a buzzer-beater against his former team, Durant makes pointed comments about feeling like a scapegoat.

  • Kevin Durant (19:23): “A place that I didn't want to leave... To be kicked out of a place... felt like I've been scapegoated, you know what I'm saying, for the issues we had as a team last year. Yeah, it felt good to beat them and hit a game winning shot.”
  • Mike Ryan (20:08): “Kicked out and scapegoated when he was the best player on a team that underachieved. And I thought Bradley Beal was getting all the criticism for that.”

• The Curious Case of Trae Young:
  Despite being a four-time All-Star, Trae Young has become nearly untradeable due to his defensive liabilities and reportedly difficult personality.

  • Mike Ryan (24:30): “What's the value of Trey Young four time all star?... I would not want him on my basketball team... not a player that I want.”
  • Zaslow (24:41): “If you would have just told me, hey, you want Trae Young? Like, man, that sounds exciting, but at the same time, I don't know that he has any value, certainly any value to a team that's in a position for winning.”
  • Jeremy (25:21): “There have been reports previously that, like, teammates don't enjoy playing with Trae Young.”

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6. Live Events as Sports Programming and Pop Culture Sidequests

• Netflix and Action Documentaries:
  Transitioning to Elle Duncan’s new role, the cast banters about the definition of “live sports,” citing Netflix’s live broadcast of a skyscraper climb and the popularity of stunts—riffing on Free Solo and action movies like "Skyscraper."
  • Dan Le Batard (29:05): “But what she's broadcasting, the details are somebody is climbing a skyscraper live on television.”
  • Mike Ryan (29:22): “That documentary was exceptional. You think he's climbing a mountain, and the mountain is relationships. Because this is an unusual human being who risks his life.”
  • Zaslow (33:01): “Put it on the pole. I don't think you can say peg leg anymore.”

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7. Workplace Rivalries and the Pen-Petty Journalist Story

• Greg Cody’s Petty Locker Room War:
  Old-school competitive vibes return as Dan shares an anecdote about Greg Cody refusing to lend a pen to fellow journalist Richie Rosenblatt in the freezing cold.
  • Dan Le Batard (40:19): “Evidently, when Zaslow talks about his friendship with Evan Cohen, this is how competitive friends and rivals can be. Greg Cody... pens were freezing up because it was zero degrees. And Richie Rosenblatt's pen wasn't working as he was trying to take notes. And Greg Cody had an assortment of pens that were working. And Greg Cody would not share any of the pens.”
  • Zaslow (40:19): “But that would be like if I'm sitting next to Evan Cohen and his microphone stops working and I have multiple microphones and I just say, tough shit.”
  • Underlying message: Even in supposedly collegial professions, cutthroat competition (and pettiness) runs deep.

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8. Miami’s Championship Run and Media Coverage

• Homerism vs. Objectivity in Sports Fandom:
  The episode closes with clashing philosophies on how to cover the University of Miami’s football success, lampooning Dan’s “rational” fandom versus the expectation to lose one’s mind over this unlikely playoff run, and the show’s playful annual tradition of fake pregame hype.
  • Mike Ryan (38:13): “It's been 20 years and you're still doing this thing where you're speaking for an audience that's annoyed by homerism. Mike. Okay, all right, I get it... Instead you left me in the foxhole alone to fight for this team in the cfp and you were talking about they. You were repping them. Now's the time. Get over here. Who's asking for this bit from you, Dan LeBatard, who is asking you to be a Rational guy that speaks for the other people that are Miami Hurricanes when you, more than anybody should be standing on the table losing your fricking mind for what you're seeing?”
  • Dan Le Batard (41:00): “Can you imagine your child, that being the soundtrack to your childhood when you hopped in a car?”

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Notable Quotes

• On College Football’s Immunity to Scandal:
  Mike Ryan (02:03): “It is amazing... to see [college football] turned into this much of a business, I would have thought would have hurt the product, and the product cannot be hurt.”

• On Donor Power:
  Kenny Dillingham, ASU Coach (05:14): “Step up, step up and be that dude... somebody step up and completely take this place from the direction it’s going to... holy cow.”

• On Trae Young’s Steep Fall:
  Zaslow (24:41): “Trae Young, for his career is 25 and 10. That's a star. And I don't know if he has any value.”

• On Sleep and Trust in Relationships:
  Mike Ryan (10:31): “My wife doesn’t trust me to not fall asleep at a classical music performance."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Lane Kiffin’s “Regret”: 00:08–01:36
• Money & Donors in College Football: 02:42–07:32 (Kenny Dillingham plea at 05:14)
• Zaslow’s Sideline Assignment Confession: 08:06–10:17
• Valerie’s Lack of Trust Content (Mike’s Sleep Habits): 10:31–13:41
• Kevin Durant “Kicked Out”/NBA Trades: 18:03–22:27
• Trae Young’s Value Debate: 24:30–26:07
• Petty Journalist Story (Pens): 40:19–41:13
• Miami Playoff/Media Coverage Dynamics: 38:13–43:40

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Memorable Moments

• Lane Kiffin’s performative hashtags after a public gaffe
• Arizona State’s coach’s “rich dude” plea for donor money
• Zaslow’s total transparency about trying to swipe a coworker’s national sideline job
• Mike Ryan’s sleep stories—especially his Broadway nap (11:14), which led to a segment-wide debate about nodding-off-sleep
• Kevin Durant’s rare vulnerability after a buzzer-beater (19:23)
• The existential roasting of Trae Young’s NBA value
• Greg Cody’s ruthless pen-hoarding in a frozen locker room

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Tone and Style

The episode’s tone is classic Le Batard—a blend of sharp skepticism, playful self-mockery, and affectionately cutting banter. Guests and hosts rib each other, digress into personal stories, and sprinkle legitimate sports commentary amidst jokes and comedic polls (“Are Charlotte, Sacramento, and Washington rest stop bathrooms?”).

For listeners, this hour delivers the spirit of the Le Batard Show: passionate about sports, unafraid of tangents, and never taking themselves too seriously.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

I am not of the belief. The way Mike Ryan says that Lane Kiffin is capable of regret doesn't seem to fit with the entirety of his personality. And he has responded to someone on Twitter about the basket he stole from the local grocery store by putting up a bunch of hashtags. Hashtag return basket, hashtag save environment, no bags. Hashtag set example for kids. Hashtag fly commercial. Hashtag serve others.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're right. Like full on regret of the move for Lane Kiffin. I don't think he's built that way, but there are certainly elements of this that are embarrassing to him. The optics, the legacy hit that he took in that part of the country. That maybe he cares, maybe he doesn't, but gosh, I don't think he cares if they make it to the national title game.

[Mike Ryan]

He.

[Dan Le Batard]

He can claim he built that team, but they did it in spite of him. That's a fact. Because this is a whole load of adversity this team has had to overcome to get to this point.

[Mike Ryan]

It is funny to see him say flycommercial when his contract has all sorts of private plane time in it, because I don't think he's doing very much in the way of regret, given that this has been what he does. He has not had an exit that isn't like this anywhere. It's sort of like if he was going to learn the lessons from it, he would have learned them. It doesn't seem like he learned the lessons from all the other places where he leaves in disgrace.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, moving to another SEC school is difficult. I don't know if Ole Miss would have allowed him to go to Florida. They're much less of a threat and allowed him to go to Florida and still coach. They're much less of a threat to Ole Miss right now than LSU is. But this is a huge part of his legacy. And for a guy that had like one of the big oopsies when it came to doing this, he somehow made it worse. This is worse than leaving Tennessee in the way that he did.

[Mike Ryan]

I just think that it is amazing, honestly, Zaslo, truly amazing for me to watch the last five years of everything that's happened to college football, to see it turned into this much of a business, I would have thought would have hurt the product, and the product cannot be hurt. Like, we can talk about all this stuff as controversies. It's wrong. They can't make up the rules as they go along. Our love of football is Such that it does not matter what you do to it. I would have thought at some point having this much business around amateurism would contaminate it, but it's not possible for it to be contaminated.

[Zaslow]

Like when this stuff started a few years ago, and you would have people who are just like, you know, what happened to my game? College football never going to be the same. It's like it doesn't feel as good. And it's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm traveling the country every single week, and these people love it as much as they have ever, ever loved anything.

[Dan Le Batard]

I knew it would be great, and it got great way quicker. Just look at the Final Four that we have right now. It was starting to run its course. Fifteen years of Bama, Georgia, lsu, the occasional Clemson. Clemson qualifies as your Cinderella here. This is so much better.

[Zaslow]

I mean, either Miami or Ole Miss are going to play for the national championship.

[Jeremy]

And ironically, like, it feels like a sport that has added a salary cap for. For parity so that other teams have an opportunity by opening up the capitalism and letting everybody get in and just throw a bunch of money.

[Zaslow]

So by there being no cap, they've added.

[Jeremy]

Because now instead of the eight programs that you had with crazy recruiting advantages, now, let's be real. Yeah, now Texas Tech, or obviously Oregon, that has a ton of money around it, or Indiana for getting the right quarterback for that one year and maybe next year with Josh Hoover and capitalizing off of it. Like anybody can get in at any given moment. And that's pretty cool.

[Zaslow]

I don't think the money is the issue. The money's great. That part's fine. The issue, I think, is very clearly the changing schools every single year.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it's great for the game. Look at the TV ratings. Look at the TV ratings. I understand that part, and I think that'll have some sort of solution in the coming years. This is very hard to do in this landscape. The playoff teams are changing the amount of teams that are allowed in the tournament. The rules are changing every year. Hell, we got European professional basketball players now playing in the United States. We got guys that got drafted. Like, all of this is really hard to navigate, and it'll settle in in a little bit. But this is actually making college football even bigger. The numbers bear it out. More teams, more regions across the country having an opportunity to get in the game has grown. The sport, a sport that ESPN only knew how to market this one way, sec, sec. And now we see. Look at what we've been keeping from ourselves.

[Zaslow]

Well, and think about it, most schools have at least some wealthy fans and now those wealthy fans can have a say.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, and now you have coaches just begging those wealthy fans to give them money. Listen to Arizona Stagecoach, Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham talking about, please someone write me a check.

[Kenny Dillingham]

We need to find one of these really rich people in this city to step up and stroke a check. And I'll do everything I can to make you the most famous person in the city.

[Mike Ryan]

Right?

[Kenny Dillingham]

That's really what we need. We need one person. We live in Phoenix, Arizona. You're telling me there's not one person who could stroke a 20 million dollar check right now? There is somebody out here who can. There's somebody who can. There's somebody. And like other people are going to sacrifice to be here. Somebody step up, step up and be that dude to say, holy cow, what completely changed it? This person. There's somebody out there that's going to listen to this, that's going to get it, forwarded it. If you know somebody who can do it, forward this message to somebody. Somebody can step up and completely take this place from the direction it's going to. Holy cow.

[Mike Ryan]

Leadership or begging.

[Mike]

That is crazy though, that this is what it's come to. And there probably is a guy in Arizona like I could do that or a woman.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, not to Kenny.

[Jeremy]

Not likely.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's pretty solely focused on it being a dude. Dudes, Holy cow.

[Jeremy]

As he should.

[Zaslow]

It's kind of amazing when you think about it that financially college sports are allowed to do things that pro sports are not allowed to do.

[Mike Ryan]

You say it's amazing, it's dumb. Because as I've said for a long time, please allow all of these rich people to compete against each other for money, begging for a quarterback instead of a donor begging to pay a quarterback. Because imagine what Steven Ross toward the end of his life, Steven Ross, who was willing to trade for first round picks for Joe Burrow, reportedly Stephen Ross who tried to get Tom Brady to come here and agitated Brian Flores as part of everything that was happening there. Imagine what Stephen Ross at the end of his life, Stephen Ross, career winner at everything except the thing that he's famous for.

[Zaslow]

Such a good point.

[Mike Ryan]

How much do you imagine he would pay at the end of his life to just be able to outbid somebody for a quarterback?

[Zaslow]

You don't think Stephen Ross would call up the Cincinnati Bengals and say, hey, notoriously frugal franchise, I'm going to give you $500 million. Right now, you just give us Joe Burrow. You would definitely do that.

[Mike Ryan]

He can do that at Michigan and hats. He.

[Dan Le Batard]

He has done that at Michigan. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

And Michigan State. Didn't Michigan State have some sort of donor? There was 400 million, 200 million of which had to go to the athletic program.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ishpia, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Is that who it was?

[Dan Le Batard]

I think it was hba.

[Mike Ryan]

There are a number of things that I need to get to here that I have not yet gotten to. But one of them I teased earlier after Evan Cohen's brilliant riot report. The most violent Boca has been in many a year was the sideline of the Louisville Toledo game during the Boca Bowl. And I mentioned that Zaslow tried to steal that assignment from Evan Cohen without offering any particulars. Can you tell people what kind of thief you were?

[Zaslow]

I went behind his back. I tried to steal that job. It's really simple. That's literally what happened. I mean, he had the job last year.

[Mike Ryan]

On.

[Zaslow]

The call is. It's an ESPN radio, like, broadcast. The call is Chris Carlin and Freddie Coleman for the second consecutive year, and Evan Cohen last year, and this year was their sideline reporter. And I decided I want that gig. And I figured Evan wouldn't want, like, I don't know, he's gonna fly down and, you know, it's not his gig.

[Mike]

He's.

[Mike Ryan]

You're here, you're. You're here. You're 50 miles from there.

[Zaslow]

I'm here. And I was like, you know what? Let's do something fun. You know what? What if me and Amber Wilson, we'll just do our shtick. We'll do the sidelines together, the two of us. We'll do something different. She and I will be the sideline reporter, the. For the game. We're both here. We would both love to be part of a game broadcast. And I went and I asked people to use. I was like, hey, so, yeah, like, I'd like that gig. I like to do that. Well, then I eventually text Evan. I was like, hey, man, are you doing the sidelines again? And he didn't necessarily appreciate the order of events there. Maybe I should have went to him first with the ask before I went to the other people. I decided rather than ask for a permission, beg for forgiveness. That's my move. And ultimately, you know, I did not get the gig. And. And Evan. Evan had.

[Mike Ryan]

Or the forgiveness.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, I don't know about that. I don't know.

[Dan Le Batard]

I haven't really talked to out stroke ev company.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, I don't know. So I. I tried to get that gig. I tried. And it put Evan in a really weird spot, too, because even if he didn't want to do it again, now he had to do it again because I was coming for the gig.

[Mike Ryan]

So what is your relationship with Evan Cohen?

[Zaslow]

Very good.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, it used to.

[Dan Le Batard]

Used to be.

[Jeremy]

Well, like, Mario and Ryan, like, what.

[Mike]

Are you supposed to say? And if you're Evan in that spot and your bosses come to you and say, hey, you want this? You want this off? I got someone who's willing to. If I'm going to be like, get out of here.

[Zaslow]

Well, yeah, I don't know how that conversation went, but ultimately it led to me being, you know, shoot away.

[Mike Ryan]

You do know how that conversation went.

[Jeremy]

Hey, do you want to not get paid?

[Zaslow]

Yeah. It was me being shoot away.

[Mike Ryan]

You being shown a shoot away and him doing riot reporting. That was exceptional, according to everyone except Greg Cody, who criticized the number of police officers.

[Zaslow]

So I tried. You know, I tried. I tried to get in there. It backfired.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to ask you guys a question. I left the house this morning with my wife making an assessment of me that was both accurate and disturbing. Okay. My wife bought tickets to a classical music performance that she was gonna go to with her best friend, but her best friend had to bail on it. And I said to her, I'll go with you. I'm happy to go with you. And she doesn't trust me to not fall asleep during the classical music performance. So I put her on the poll at LeBatard show. Can you be trusted to not fall asleep at the classical music performance? I just wanna throw that out to the audience.

[Mike]

It would've been a great content opportunity of your wife catching that on video.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I fell asleep on. When we were in New York, I did fall asleep. You fell asleep during a Broadway show? Not only did I fall asleep during a Broadway show, I fell asleep during Jon Stewart. I don't even remember what the name of the show was. It was the opening night of their. Of their Broadway show, and I fell asleep in.

[Mike]

Was that one of those sleeps where your, like, head is falling forward and you're catching it?

[Zaslow]

You went to the head bob.

[Mike Ryan]

No, the head. No, no. So asleep. So asleep that the head didn't even bob forward to wake me up. I just fell asle.

[Zaslow]

Also an important detail. Do you snore?

[Mike Ryan]

I do snore, but not in this instance. I do. This instance, I wasn't so asleep, but she noticed that I was asleep and then the show was over. Like I barely saw any of it. It's not like I was just sleeping for a little bit. There was no head bobbing. It was just falling asleep. I arrived at the Christmas break on my hands and knees. Like I was just simply exhausted and needed every bit of those two weeks off. No matter how much the audience didn't like that we were not on for a couple of months.

[Mike]

I agree with Mike that I enjoy the head bob.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's the best one.

[Jeremy]

That state of sleep.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know what, like five minutes on, five minutes off.

[Mike]

Like that's the.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm a zombie for what feels like an eternity. But really it's just 17 minutes.

[Mike Ryan]

You're nuts.

[Zaslow]

The head bobs.

[Mike Ryan]

No, it's not a satisfying sleep.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're always the deepest. I am so tired that my body has tapped out. I have lost control to keep myself awake.

[Mike]

You see the power of the body. Because then it's like, no, I've sprung awake and now I caught myself.

[Jeremy]

But that's good on the couch. Like when you're trying to stay up and watch a game or a show or something. But if you're. If you're out at a Broadway show, you're feeling the guilt.

[Mike]

That's like a terror that's almost terrible.

[Jeremy]

It's the deepest of sleep though.

[Mike]

Cuz you're not trying to do it there on the couch. You're just willy nilly like, if I fall asleep, I fall asleep. He's trying to stay awake there. That's the good stuff.

[Dan Le Batard]

Micronaps. The way that Dr. Strange does it. Five minutes at a time. That's when we did the long stat of the day. That's how I slept for an entire.

[Jeremy]

Night when I was in school.

[Mike]

The sleep where you think you're falling off a mountain. You guys, you guys didn't sleep in school when you were like in your desk and all of a sudden you're like. It's like as if you fell from a. From the sky.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not a good sleep. Put it on the poll at Lebitard show. Do you like the sleep where your head is nodding and then waking you up on its descent?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's kind of weird because I hate it, but I also kind of like it.

[Zaslow]

I don't know how to describe it.

[Mike]

Joe Buck.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. What? How is it? How is it? Like Joe Buck. I'll follow you, but just tell me how it is like Joe Buck, because.

[Mike]

I can't decide how I feel.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really.

[Mike]

I like it. Some days I'm like, that's Annoying.

[Dan Le Batard]

I like Joe Buck, for the record. Me too. I'm glad I didn't follow you down that path.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, Jeremy. Happy holidays.

[Jeremy]

Happy Januka.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to toast you. Actually, I don't. I will toast with you.

[Jeremy]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're co workers.

[Mike]

Mm.

[Jeremy]

Friends, you could say.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, we cannot say that. But we both enjoy an ice cold Miller Lite.

[Jeremy]

That's true.

[Dan Le Batard]

Especially around the holidays. You know, it's a 50th anniversary of Miller Lite.

[Jeremy]

It's really amazing every time we say that. I can't believe it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, it's crazy because, like, they've basically been partners with the Dan LeBatard show for half of their existence. When I put it to you that way. We got an old ass show.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, we do. That's crazy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hey, let's look around at our friends, not each other. And our family, even though they're not here. I do miss your brother, though.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Jeremy]

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[Mike Ryan]

There and he's the one with a baby. He's the one who's gotta like worry about what the future is. And Mike Ryan bet on DraftKings because Mike Ryan bet on us. This is the bet you're afraid of doubling down on? Putting up a billboard in Edmonton.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats I care more about Matthew Tkachuk than I do my daughter.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

A couple of basketball stories that I wanted to get to. It does seem like Kevin Durant has a bit of a persecution complex because something that he said yesterday after beating the Phoenix Suns at the buzzer. There were a couple of games yesterday that were interesting. First of all, I have no way to explain to you and have not heard anyone who has a good explanation for why the Oklahoma City Thunder are losing by 30 at home to Charlotte. After starting the season losing one time in 30 games, all of a sudden.

[Zaslow]

They'Re not going to win 80, they.

[Mike Ryan]

Can'T play basketball all of a sudden and they lose by 30 to Charlotte at home. But after the game that Houston had yesterday, and Houston's a legitimate title contender, Houston made a good trade. Houston was very close, but not good enough last year. And trading for Kevin Durant, who's always going to be able to make that shot at the buzzer, he's going to be able to do that at 80 years old. Put it on the Poll at Le Batard show. Will Kevin Durant be able to make that shot at the buzzer at 80 years old? After the game he had all this to say and I was a bit surprised by it because even though some of the stuff in Phoenix could have been hurtful, I didn't know that he was carrying this sort of chip on his shoulder.

[Zaslow]

Does it mean any more to you to be able to hit that one.

[Mike Ryan]

Against your former guys?

[Kevin Durant]

Most definitely, you know what I'm saying? A place that I didn't want to leave and my first time being to sound. I don't want to sound too dramatic, but I will. To be kicked out of a place, you know what I'm saying, and.

[Mike Ryan]

Felt.

[Kevin Durant]

Like that I've been scapegoated, you know what I'm saying, for the issues we had as a team last year. Yeah, it felt good to beat them and hit a game winning shot. But that's all it is. It's not just for the moment, you know, it's something tomorrow I won't even think about, you know. So it was. It was a fun game, like I said.

[Mike Ryan]

Of course.

[Kevin Durant]

Yeah, I felt you play with a little chip on your shoulder against your former team, especially when they traded you.

[Mike Ryan]

Kicked out and scapegoated when he was the best player on a team that underachieved. And I thought Bradley Beal was getting all the criticism for that.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, he was seemingly unaware of the conversation surrounding Bradley Beal.

[Jeremy]

I was just surprised to hear him be that honest about how he felt about it because like obviously there's some internal discussion There, Right. Like that must be that he's feeling like within the organization it was all right, well, we got to get rid of KD like it was. You have Kevin Durant, you have Devin Booker, you have Bradley Beal. There was the effort to get rid of Bradley Beal. That was the obvious one. But he probably thought, hey, me and Devin Booker, you continue to build it around us. I was great. And for him to be shipped out of town, he must have been caught off guard by it. And I was really surprised. You don't often hear athletes admit to that. I was pretty taken aback by hearing him say it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He gets the moment of winning that game. He gets to say that there. We should also consider that Phoenix was right because Phoenix turned that thing around real quick by getting those guys off the roster.

[Zaslow]

Also kind of the opposite, where he's saying they, they didn't want him anymore. Kind of the opposite of the three previous times he told his teams, I don't want you anymore.

[Jeremy]

But that's why he admits, like, this is the first time I was shipped out of town and it wasn't just my decision. As an NBA superstar, it's a weird feeling like he's not at the end of his career by any means, but he's on the back half of his career for sure. And probably the back third and so to 14th hole. Sure.

[Dan Le Batard]

But up on 16 to be in.

[Jeremy]

That position and for the very first time in your career to have the experience of they don't want me. Kevin Durant, the in, in his view, still the best scorer in basketball, still a top tier defender. He's surprised by it.

[Zaslow]

Mike's right, though. Like this year's Phoenix 16th hole is a lot better.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, but that's, that's a full construction thing. It's not just Kevin Durant. Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

But getting rid of them helped for that construction. So their, their vision worked. Shout out Matt HP again.

[Mike Ryan]

It was indeed HBO who gave the $400 million to Michigan.

[Dan Le Batard]

I assume he's a sporty guy and he's, you know, got a lot of money.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, but I thought you were looking that. I recall that I didn't think it was Ishbia. But regardless, Kevin Durant, I think this goes back a ways, right, Because Kevin Durant was surprised. And this is where the insult is. Kevin Durant was surprised to hear that his name was in trade talks without anyone telling Kevin Durant that his name was in trade talks. I saw some video with you, Donnis Haslam the other day where he was playing a game with Taylor Rooks. And they were talking about something he would want to ask somebody that he would want to know and get facts on. And he said, the thing that I'd like to know is whether or not anyone approached Dwyane Wade and the Heat organization about trading me for Allen Iverson. And so they put him and Wade on camera together and then asked Wade and Wade said, yeah, they did approach me about trading for Allen Iverson. I wanted to trade for Allen Iverson. And then they told me Yudanis was involved and I didn't want to trade for Allen Iverson. And there's just simply no way that Yudanis asked that question without already knowing the answer to it. And then them televising it like that wasn't something that you done is then learned on television while waiting for Dwyane Wade to answer that question. You generally go to a superstar like that, like Kevin Durant and you check with him on things and that's where that relationship started to deteriorate. That and the losing. The other thing though from yesterday that I wanted to ask you guys and talk about is it's rare for me to see that a four time all star in basketball is available at something close to his prime. And I don't think he has any value. Trae Young in Atlanta is now working on a trade in Atlanta. He's the worst defender in the league. And while he's serviceable at what you need in the modern age of the NBA, which is somebody who spreads the floor, he's not someone I would want on my team. He's not someone I would trade for. He's not someone I think of as having value, especially not as a number one. But also if you're asking him to go and play a role, that's not as a number one, that's just spot up shooter. Now, so what is the value of Trey Young? Young. And as I talk to you now in the audience, whoever your team is, do you want him? Do you want a four time all star in his prime? Because I wouldn't, I would not want him on my basketball team. I don't want him defending, I don't want him hogging the ball rate. I don't want him taking 40 footers, not a player that I want on my basketball team. What's the value of Trey Young four time all star?

[Zaslow]

It's so confusing to me because if you would have just told me, hey, you want Trey Young? Like, man, that sounds exciting, but at the same time, I don't know that he has any value, certainly any value to a team that's in a position for winning. Like, what's going to wind up happening is Atlanta is going to call Charlotte and they're going to call Washington and they're going to call Sacramento, and he's going to wind up playing for one of those three teams. And consider this. Trey Young, for his career is 25 and 10. That's a star. That's a star player. And I don't know if he has any value.

[Jeremy]

There have been reports previously that, like, teammates don't enjoy playing with Trey Young.

[Zaslow]

And that's in part what's not to enjoy.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's.

[Jeremy]

It's like 10 assist by default, right? So it's like an example of that might be that the way the Heat ran offense previously Bama Tobias assists numbers were higher because of dribble handoffs where he's getting two or three extra assists per game. Game simply because the ball is in your hands. For Trae Young, the ball is always in his hands. He's making every single decision. And sometimes that's shooting a three from the logo four seconds into the shot clock when other guys are already going at the same time. Like, this is a talented player who's at 25 and 10. And Bobby marks just put out an article about an hour ago where he was sort of hypothesizing where he could go and what those moves could.

[Zaslow]

Where's he sending him?

[Jeremy]

And there's the Wizards, which has been reported by Mark Stein. That's a place where he could go.

[Zaslow]

He's a lot.

[Jeremy]

But another. Another spot that. That mentioned, though, like, if you're looking to just shake things up, Milwaukee, where they could just send contracts and maybe a desperate team. But I don't think that you're going to see. More likely than not, Trey Young traded to a place where it's like, all right, cool, this puts us over the top to be a championship contender or that it's a team that decides to truly build around him. Washington may be looking at this in the way that teams like Oklahoma City did previously. Hey, attach something to Trae Young. Give us a pick or two to give us an asset with him with his contract for next year. So we could see, hey, is he worth keeping around? Is can he turn it around with us, or do you then just let him expire or trade him as an expiring contract next year? It's so surprising the. The rapid deterioration of that value.

[Zaslow]

Exciting, exciting player who has been money in the playoffs. Like, Like a guy who could win you playoff games in the prime of his career. And I don't think any good teams.

[Jeremy]

That lack of defense is huge.

[Mike Ryan]

He is the worst defender in the entire league. And what Zaslow said. That is so true. Put it on the poll, please. Juju at Lebatard show are Charlotte, Sacramento and Washington rest stop bathrooms. The rest stop bathroom makes you sad, right? The rest. Have you. Any of you ever been. Lucy's nice in a highway rest stop bathroom. That is not profoundly sad. This is the place where Jordan Poole and Trey Young go to waste their careers. The rest of it, Washington, Sacramento, Charlotte.

[Jeremy]

Are you doing truck stop for Pierce?

[Zaslow]

My preferred.

[Mike]

Are you doing truck stop or like modern rest area with like the Food.

[Jeremy]

Court 95 or the Turnpike?

[Dan Le Batard]

The. The truck stops are nice turnpikes. They're like big brands. They're built for people to come in and shower. Turnbucks getting better.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm doing the bathroom area specifically, no matter what. Of rest stops on the turnpike.

[Jeremy]

Oh, see, it's not so bad.

[Mike Ryan]

I disagree.

[Mike]

They're getting better.

[Kevin Durant]

Alligator Alley.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you done that drive? It's all these prefab construction designs like.

[Jeremy]

The light Fort Drum. Dan, have you been to Fort Drum?

[Dan Le Batard]

Everything is taupe.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it on the poll. At Lebatard show. Is everything taupe in the rest stop bathroom?

[Mike]

Hands free.

[Mike Ryan]

Zaslo, how do you feel? I believe Elle Duncan not only has done her final sports center. It was very emotional. But Elle Duncan is getting her life back with a Netflix job that allows her to not work the way that people make you work in Bristol, Connecticut, where you have to work 700 of the 365 days there are in a year. And she is hosting one of these gimmick shows as Netflix makes its way into. I guess I don't even know what live sports. I don't. Yeah, but this is climbing a skyscraper. Is that live sports? Is that. That's what we're seeing is live sports.

[Dan Le Batard]

Live event host.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a live event host. But what she's broadcasting, the details are somebody is climbing a skyscraper live on television.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not somebody. It's that dude from that documentary that you love.

[Mike Ryan]

Free Solo.

[Mike]

Yes, that guy. His name is escaping me at the moment.

[Mike Ryan]

But that. That documentary was exceptional. It was exceptional for a number of different reasons. You think he's climbing a mountain, and the mountain is relationships. Because this is an unusual human being who risks his life. Life in the obsessive pursuit of I can climb anything anywhere. And it's obviously someone who's very difficult to be in a relationship with because you don't want the person that you're in a relationship with to be testing death every day.

[Jeremy]

It's Alex Honnold Hummel. H o N N O L D.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don Lee, in terms of Heat fans, you're the most irrational of us right now.

[Mike Ryan]

What.

[Dan Le Batard]

What's the pivotal.

[Mike Ryan]

Hear your voice. Your voice. You. If I were making a cartoon thing that was meant to symbolize irrational, that's the voice I would give higher.

[Mike]

Premise. Premise.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug. So I'm watching, I'm watching my stories last night, all right? And they do a. They show Elle Duncan. She's in the Instagram. No, I'm watching Monday Night Raw and I'm watching my stories and L. Duncan is in the crowd. And then they, they, they put up a preview. They put up like a trailer for this. It's called Skyscraper. Not to be confused with one of the all time great action movies with the rock.

[Mike Ryan]

It is not one of these.

[Zaslow]

I mean, remember he jumps from a scaffolding from one to another. He's got a peg leg and he jumps from a SC onto the other building. It's a, it's a classic movie doing peg legs.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it on the pole. I don't think you can say peg leg anymore. Put it on the pole. At Lebatard show is Skyscraper one of the great all time classic.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you for sticking up for me. So I'm an ally. Shiver me. Yes, yes. Ye are so rude.

[Zaslow]

So they show a preview for this. This, this. It's. It's a live, you know, broadcast. Homeboy is going to climb it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Be a prosthetic.

[Zaslow]

A building in Thai. In Taipei, Taiwan. All right, it's like 101 floors. No harness, no bungee, no like, you know, netting.

[Mike Ryan]

And he's going to.

[Zaslow]

They're doing live. And I'm telling you, I will watch this on one condition. All right, I want to watch it, but I will watch some. One condition. You have to promise me if he slips and falls, that camera stays on him.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, no.

[Zaslow]

Like, no cutaway.

[Mike Ryan]

There's no such thing as televising. That kind of. Well, live on television.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know ye be noticing that I've been orally altered, but do not call it an eye patch.

[Zaslow]

If they promise to keep the camera on him, I will watch.

[Mike Ryan]

So it's called Peg leg only because it rhymes, right? I don't even know what a peg.

[Dan Le Batard]

Easy. We gave you the pass once.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't even know what the peg is. In peg Leg, it beat stick. It's just because it rhymes with leg that it's called peg leg, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it'd be a peg.

[Mike]

I'm with you. They probably started with leg and work backwards.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it on the poll. Are you still allowed to say peg leg at Lebatard show? And is it selfie?

[Dan Le Batard]

If you. If you were offended by the term peg leg, please take a selfie. I would love to see full body in your merry men.

[Mike Ryan]

And also put on the poll at Lebatard show. Did we call it peg leg? Only because the peg rhymes with leg at Lebatard show.

[Zaslow]

Incredible. He went from the. Get that off the screen from the scaffold. I think he even jumped up and landed on a floor above where he jumped.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not a great movie. It's not a great action movie. It's not any of those things. But Skyscraper. I can't believe how bad your judgment is about this. It's not an any good. It's not. You cannot say the skyscraper was a good movie.

[Zaslow]

Maybe you're not thinking of the same movie I am.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

I have heard from sources close to Evan Cohen, and sources close to Evan Cohen are saying that over the holiday break, Zaslow pissed off Evan because he hosted the morning show and then proclaimed the New York studios now his, and that Evan had to rent them out from him going forward. He had done only one show Zaslow had in those New York studios. And I am told that Evan Cohen is not as down with you as you think he is.

[Zaslow]

I was very honest about this. We went up there, me and Amber. We did the show from the New York studios. We filled in for Evan one day, and I'm very upfront about this. If you invite me to your home and you have a nice home, I might take your home. And I said that. So I don't know what the issue is here.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you've got a problem with somebody who your. You have come up the same sort of, you know, work chain as him, and you're competing for some of these things as rising stars at each espn, ESPN Radio. He doesn't have suites on the road. He doesn't fly first class. And you guys are competing. It's. There's a friendly competition between friends. Mike, why are you looking at him?

[Dan Le Batard]

He's doing all right. Yeah. If you look under the hood, he's doing fine.

[Mike Ryan]

But he's also got someone in a friend in Zaslow who continues to work behind the scenes to take his things.

[Zaslow]

Friends challenge each other, though. Friends can compete. You could have someone to compete with and both of you try and get to the top. I mean, who's to say? It's not what's going on here.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't think that that can break apart a friendship or a relationship? You don't think that there are certain dangers and temptations there that are problematic? We'll see.

[Zaslow]

I mean, do I have to. Dan, Do I have to remind you? But you know, I got a wife.

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[Dan Le Batard]

And what do they like?

[Zaslow]

Yeah, they love something, you know. Gotta. Gotta get it. When come you can. Money. I'm talking about. Yeah, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Greg Cody had to leave. I should have probably said this earlier and we never got to remind me tomorrow to get to whatever his feud is with Richie Rosenblatt because I need. Can we, can we write that down?

[Dan Le Batard]

Can we do that before his Fiesta bowl thoughts? I guess.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, let's. Pro. Let's. Well, I really don't want his Fiesta Bull thoughts. He gave us the only one that he had, which is all missed tackles. That's all he had. He doesn't have anything else. He hasn't watched any. He hasn't watched any Mississippi football this year.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's been two weeks of a great Miami Hurricanes playoff run and I didn't get to hear like the writer from the region that actually reps the team because you've been doing a two decade.

[Mike Ryan]

Long bit you did hear from.

[Dan Le Batard]

Which I'm sure you regret because Mario doesn't like you.

[Mike Ryan]

He called it Ole Miss tackle.

[Mike]

We tried to get Mario this week.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was like, I was like, I'll handle this one. That's going to be a no.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, what do you want me to say about that? Well, I don't know what you're flipping for the serious coach like.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's not that. It's not that.

[Mike]

Look, you're late to the party.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's been 20 years and you're still doing this thing where you're speaking for an audience that's annoyed by homerism. Mike. Okay, all right, I get it. It's not Jaron Williams at quarterback anymore. They're here. You're one of the famous alumni, right? You should be happy. You should be pounding the table too. You should be Miami. Instead you left me in the foxhole alone to fight for this team in the cfp and you were talking about they. You were repping them. Now's the time. Get over here. Who's asking for this bit from you, Dan LeBatard, who is asking you to be a Rational guy that speaks for the other people that are Miami Hurricanes when you, more than anybody should be standing on the table losing your fricking mind for what you're seeing.

[Mike Ryan]

There is no bit here international. What bit do you have? Me?

[Dan Le Batard]

You speak for the audience. You know what you do.

[Zaslow]

I mean, you gave Jeremy an audience cape for byu.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what you do?

[Mike Ryan]

I gave Jeremy an audience to be annoying.

[Dan Le Batard]

You gave the audience Jeremy, which is.

[Mike Ryan]

Even worse by that math.

[Mike]

He gave the audience you as well.

[Mike Ryan]

What is the feud with Richie Rosenblatt and Greg Cody? Because this is what I heard part of the feud was. And you, for those of you who do not know any of the history. And why would you. Evidently, when Zaslow talks about his friendship with Evan Cohen, this is how competitive friends and rivals can be Be Greg Cody. Many, many years ago in Buffalo. They went to Buffalo, tried to win with Bernie Parmalee. And Greg Cody was outside of the locker room and pens were freezing up because it was zero degrees. And Richie Rosenblatt's pen wasn't working as he was trying to take notes. And Greg Cody had an assortment of pens that were working. And Greg Cody would not share any of the pens with. With Richie Rosenblatt and just left him there to struggle with his note taking because they were competing. What are you looking at? You just did. You, I would assume, would endorse this behavior. Someone who has tried to steal the money of Evan Cohen's significant other.

[Zaslow]

But that would be like if I'm sitting next to Evan Cohen and his microphone stops working and I have multiple microphones and I just say, tough shit.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's right. You don't say. You don't even say tough shit. You give, like, that grin.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you keep writing your cycles.

[Zaslow]

I don't know. That's crazy behavior.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, paper wars.

[Mike Ryan]

Greg Cody is crazy. I mean, Greg cody just made 49th on his list of catchphrases. What is the Click Click song?

[Mike]

Where's my Click Click?

[Zaslow]

A phrase that you've only heard if you've been in his car.

[Mike Ryan]

In his car. That's correct.

[Mike]

Where's my click click?

[Mike Ryan]

I can't imagine how bad this list is if he doesn't. Bad. How bad?

[Dan Le Batard]

Came out the gates on fire fuller than Vern Fuller.

[Mike]

I mean, that could have been higher.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm ceiling. Where's my click click? Can you imagine your child that being the soundtrack to your childhood when you hopped in a car?

[Zaslow]

I want you to record it on your phone. You say that with your wife and your daughter. In the car just for the reaction.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to hear again as we continue to build up to the biggest game the University of Miami has had in more than 20 years. I just want to hear the assortment of sounds that you're going to put into a fake pregame show that continues to build out our Tuesday, our Wednesday and our Thursday as we head toward the University of Miami is playing Mississippi as a favorite to get to the championship game. Zaz said earlier in the show, he's like, I can't believe it. Miami and Mississippi are in a game and one of them is going to be in the championship. I'm sitting here saying Indiana is going to be in the championship. Indiana is going to have a team that is worthy of being undefeated and playing for the national championship and winning it it old school style because Indiana, any time of that college football has been played, Indiana has the resume that would win the championship. Miami presently has the only resume that ever gets to play for the championship, which is two losses and the last few years of playoff football. The hundred years before that, Miami would not be allowed to play for the championship with two losses.

[Dan Le Batard]

Indiana, if they get past the semifinal and they win a championship, can lay claim to greatest team of all time because no team has ever gone 16 0.

[Zaslow]

Biggest game in 20 years.

[Mike Ryan]

Ass kicks ass. No, I want just the Greg Cody in the back of the car. Drunken sounds and also the way that he pronounces Malachi. Tony Malachi. That's who's. That's whose coverage you're missing that you want.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right?

[Mike Ryan]

You wanted. You wanted him to give you more analysis.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're just pulling up gold. You're the one replaying it on this show. It seems like he's doing a pretty good job.

[Mike Ryan]

Ole Miss tackles is all he had on them.

[Zaslow]

He doesn't gave me 20 years.

[Mike Ryan]

All I've got around here surrounding me is Greg Cody not knowing anybody who plays for Ole Miss and Zaslow before even the Trinidad Chambliss hype has started saying he's sick of it already.

[Mike]

And Michael Irvin.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're here. They've met the moment. Dan Lebatard hasn't. Michael Irvin. Greg Cody certainly has.

[Mike Ryan]

I want a fake pregame show intro tomorrow that has all of this garbage in it. Yes, yes, yes. What's so hard about that for four days straight. Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Biggest game in 20 years.

[Mike Ryan]

Make me a fake pregame show intro that I have tomorrow during the local hour that has all of Michael Irvin sound. Yes. It's not too big of a request.