Hour 3: Amin Elhassan Is A Media Titan (feat. Amin Elhassan)

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Hour 3: "Amin Elhassan Is A Media Titan" (feat. Amin Elhassan)

April 20, 2026
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" dives into the intersection of sports business and culture, with particular focus on recent NBA playoff action, the economics of sports drafts and salary caps, and biting inside media commentary. Guest Amin Elhassan joins as the so-named "Media Titan," sharing signature observations on NBA news, executive decisions, and the sometimes-absurd inner workings of both the league and sports media at large.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Playoffs & Al Horford Time Machine

• Tony Reali celebrates Al Horford’s recent performance against the Clippers [01:50–02:09], likening it to going “back in the Wayback Machine.”
• Amin Elhassan deadpans about losing interest post-regular season:

  "Season's over. Who cares?" (Amin, 02:13)

• Group jokes about work-life balance and sports career decisions, with references to Al Horford’s move and Jeremy Schaap’s job juggle.

2. Draft Systems, Collusion & College Football

• Discussion on Ryan Day’s proposal for a "college draft" system to control player costs [03:39–10:43].
• Tony Reali digs into the business side:

  "Any time that these guys can't fix their costs, they want to get the costs under control by creating a draft, because a draft is... hugely unfair to the participants." (Tony, 03:39)

• Amin and Dan wrestle with the paradox of salary caps, owner collusion, and the tradeoffs faced in both the NFL and college football, referencing the unresolved Lamar Jackson saga and DeMaurice Smith’s insights.

3. Dexter Lawrence Trade & Value of NFL Defensive Line Play

• Debate over the New York Giants trading Dexter Lawrence for a top 10 pick (and salary cap relief) [06:20–09:15].
• Tony Reali lauds Lawrence:

  "Since 2022... Dexter Lawrence has 108 pressures from nose tackle. The next closest is Vita Vea with 32." (Tony, 08:09)

• Amin questions the wisdom of big contracts for declining vets and spotlights locker room dynamics.

4. Chaos in College Sports & Coach Control

• Examination of NIL, free agency, and the coaches’ struggle to maintain control as spending escalates [10:43–11:58].
• Jeremy Schaap dryly compares Ohio State’s financial might to Google in the free agency world.

5. NBA Playoff Weekend Observations

Amin shares his irreverent "weekend observations" [16:47–28:37], hitting:

• Doc Rivers' Hall of Fame candidacy (“He’s going in as a coach. There will be no reliving of his playing career...” Amin, 16:58)
• Aging stars (Steph, Draymond, and the "funeral" for Warriors’ core)
• Streaming complaints ("It’s not hard. Where’s the game? Google Raptors, Cavs. Oh, it’s on Prime. Done." Amin, 18:49)
• Knicks fans’ perennial overreactions (“They’re still saying, F Trey Young... he’s long gone.”)
• Detroit Pistons’ playoff drought (“They haven’t won a home playoff game since [their Twitter account] started in 2008.” 24:02)
• Phoenix Suns and Thunder predictions
• Absurd sports statistics:

  "Don’t give me 'Victor Wembanyama had the most points in the first half of a playoff debut in history.' No, this is dumb. This is not a real stat that we should care about." (Amin, 37:32)

6. Where Do the Warriors Go From Here?

• Amin breaks down the possible break-up of the Warriors dynasty [31:10–34:10], noting Steve Kerr’s introspection and Draymond Green's unique perspective:

  "I've never heard a player speak like [Draymond]—that when we're successful, everyone gets to keep working... When we lose, everyone else has to worry about their jobs and their livelihood." (Amin, 32:24)

• He places himself in the media landscape:

  "I have two careers. I have a basketball career and I have a media career. And neither of them separately rise to the level of what J.A. Adande or Marcus Thompson or Tim Kawakami or Wright Thompson have accomplished and achieved in the one industry." (Amin, 33:10)

7. Clippers Keeping Kawhi & Billionaire Owner Logic

• Amin discusses the Clippers’ decision to build around Kawhi Leonard and how billionaires' egos distort logical team-building [34:10–35:26].

8. “You Know About That?” with Amin

A rapid-fire NBA playoff segment:

• Detroit Pistons struggles and Orlando Magic optimism [35:38–36:33]
• Victor Wembanyama’s debut and “ridiculous” NBA stats [36:48–37:54]
• LeBron and Bronny on the court together [38:08–38:56]
• Luka Doncic’s award eligibility rule (“This is the dumbest thing ever. Get rid of this dumb rule.” Amin, 39:06)
• Series blowouts vs. close games

9. Media Industry: The Woj Bombshell

• Group unpacks reports about Adrian Wojnarowski's move from ESPN to St. Bonaventure, including conflicts with donors and recruiting dissent [40:19–43:19].
• Amin shares personal anecdotes:

  "[Woj] would pick up the phone and complain about how other people are doing their jobs, despite them not doing any of the dirty tactics that he did when he was working. But guess what, he’s back home where he belongs..." (Amin, 42:00)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|-------------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 02:13 | Amin Elhassan | "Season's over. Who cares?" | | 03:39 | Tony Reali | "Any time that these guys can't fix their costs, they want to get the costs under control by creating a draft..." | | 08:09 | Tony Reali | "Since 2022... Dexter Lawrence has 108 pressures from nose tackle. The next closest is Vita Vea with 32." | | 16:58 | Amin Elhassan | "He's going in as a coach. There will be no reliving of his playing career any more than we wax poetic about Popovich’s step back..." | | 18:49 | Amin Elhassan | "It’s not hard. Where’s the game? Google Raptors, Cavs. Oh, it’s on Prime. Done." | | 24:02 | Dan Le Batard | "The Detroit Pistons started their Twitter account in October of 2008. They haven’t won a home playoff game since then." | | 32:24 | Amin Elhassan | "I've never heard a player speak like [Draymond]...when we're successful, everyone gets to keep working... When we lose, everyone else worries." | | 33:10 | Amin Elhassan | "I have two careers... And neither of them separately rise to the level of what J.A. Adande or Marcus Thompson or Tim Kawakami or Wright Thompson..."| | 37:32 | Amin Elhassan | "Don’t give me 'Victor Wembanyama had the most points in the first half of a playoff debut in history.' No, this is dumb. This is not a real stat." | | 39:06 | Amin Elhassan | "This is the dumbest thing ever. Get rid of this dumb rule and just accept that the voters know best." | | 42:00 | Amin Elhassan | "[Woj] would pick up the phone and complain about how other people are doing their jobs... That’s who you guys hired." |

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• Al Horford/Time Machine/NBA Playoff Opening — 01:50–02:40
• Drafts, Collusion, and Player Pay — 03:39–11:03
• Dexter Lawrence Trade Debate — 06:20–09:15
• NBA Streaming Complaints — 18:49–19:57
• Amin’s Weekend Observations — 16:47–28:37
• Warriors’ Future & Dynasty End — 31:10–34:10
• The "You Know About That?" Segment — 35:38–40:11
• The Woj Discussion — 40:17–43:19

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains the signature blend of irreverence, rapid-fire banter, and sharply informed observation that defines The Dan Le Batard Show. Strong personalities challenge, rib, and bounce off each other, with Amin Elhassan’s dry wit and industry storytelling creating a particularly engaging segment. The show addresses the complexities of sports economics, media politics, and the changing NBA landscape with both seriousness and satirical flair.

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Summary

If you missed this episode, you missed a lively roundtable on sports business machinations, media back-room drama, and authentic playoff basketball talk—framed with humor and Amin’s self-aware humility about his own media "titan" status. Whether you’re a fan of the sports business, on-court drama, or just enjoy good-hearted but pointed industry gossip, this is a quintessential Le Batard hour.

Transcript

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[Jeremy Schaap]

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[Amin Elhassan]

What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle.

[Dan Le Batard]

So glad the Saja Boys could take

[Tony Reali]

breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is an honor to share.

[Jeremy Schaap]

No, it's our honor.

[Dan Le Batard]

It is larger honor.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, really, stop.

[Jeremy Schaap]

You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side

[Rachel Nichols]

and participate in McDonald's while supplies last.

[Jeremy Schaap]

This is the Don Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.

[Tony Reali]

Speaking of the time travel genre, Al Horford going back in the Wayback Machine to It was four days ago, but I still think it's worth celebrating when Al Horford pulls out a game against Kawhi and the Clippers late because he won't stop making threes.

[Dan Le Batard]

But that's it.

[Tony Reali]

You got nothing says you're you're just not interested.

[Amin Elhassan]

Season's over. Who cares?

[Tony Reali]

But Al Horford, when you said you're always interested in time machine movies and prison movies, you said you're always interested. That was going back in the time machine.

[Amin Elhassan]

Now. Now I'm not interested.

[Tony Reali]

Okay. No, I appreciate all the help with that.

[Jeremy Schaap]

My wife was like, who's that guy? And I was like, oh babe, that's Al Horford she's like, really? I was like, yeah. She's like, I remember him somewhere else. I was like, yeah, he's a warrior now, our Dominican prince.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was dumb that he left Boston.

[Rachel Nichols]

Agreed.

[Amin Elhassan]

Why'd he leave? He's home doing nothing. Unless he wanted to be home doing nothing at, you know, the end of April. Why leave Boston?

[Jeremy Schaap]

I'd like to be home doing nothing.

[Amin Elhassan]

Dumb decision.

[Tony Reali]

Then why take four jobs, Jeremy? Like, I mean, whose fault is that?

[Jeremy Schaap]

Like, I have to pay bills.

[Tony Reali]

Okay, but you don't need to have four jobs if you want to be home doing nothing. You can't just be home doing nothing.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Live in poverty, Jeremy.

[Rachel Nichols]

I could have one job if the

[Jeremy Schaap]

one job paid me enough to not have four jobs.

[Tony Reali]

Oh, you've got to be sure. Me.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, Go talk bad in arbitration.

[Jeremy Schaap]

I didn't like that.

[Tony Reali]

That's why I started arbitration. It's not true at all. Okay, Jeremy, you want to be full time, you'd have to give up some of your other jobs.

[Jeremy Schaap]

No more Emmys. Congrats. You're a back row guy now.

[Tony Reali]

All right, if you. If you want to be full time, you're going to have to give up all your other gigs because you can't be working for everybody while wanting to be home alone not doing anything. Anybody ever feels the effect of the other ones, it just brings something to this show. But what did you bring last segment to our show? We couldn't even hear you.

[Rachel Nichols]

And were you stretching there? What happened there?

[Jeremy Schaap]

Just, you know, just stretching out.

[Tony Reali]

The draft. The draft on Thursday is something that we're doing a live show for. And I don't know if you guys saw this. I think it was Kevin Clark that Ryan Day said this to. He wants a college draft. Anytime that these guys can't fix their costs, they want to get the costs under control by creating a draft, because a draft is, you know, hugely unfair to the participants.

[Jeremy Schaap]

How would that be good for Ryan Day, who's usually in the top of wins throughout every single year? Was he going to pick 22nd in the draft? 232nd in the draft? Like, what are we doing?

[Tony Reali]

I don't know that he has necessarily thought it through, but as a solution, when it comes to business, fixed costs is always something that people are looking for, and it's what the draft offers you. I don't know what you guys took from the demora Smith interview that we did when he was in studio, but one of the things that he said that I thought was interesting saying to him, how would all of the sports business be different if there weren't a salary cap. And his response was the owners would collude and they wouldn't have either a floor or a ceiling. They would just collude. I don't think that's what would happen. I think one owner would get carried away and have to get the quarterback. But in the case of Lamar Jackson, no one bit like that. It is surprising to me that no one cares that that was obvious collusion. That the MVP of the league was available at the most important position and nobody signed up to want him.

[Amin Elhassan]

Like, why aren't more teams mad with more fans mad with their teams that they didn't go get Lamar Jackson?

[Tony Reali]

Well, the Dolphins would be a good example. Why?

[Dan Le Batard]

Right?

[Amin Elhassan]

Like why, why, why, why weren't we mad?

[Tony Reali]

I mean, at the time, no.

[Jeremy Schaap]

2 was there. You had two.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I guess that plays, that plays a part.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Yeah. You had collusion and Tua's ascension happening at the same time.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Amin Elhassan]

But like every other team that didn't have a quarterback, it's gotta be half the league. Why aren't their fan base like so mad they didn't go get lost.

[Tony Reali]

Do you agree with Demora Smith's contention though? Cause it's not something I had actually considered. Right. He was, he's saying no. We collectively bargained Cap because we wanted to force the owners to spend a ceiling of money that they would not have spent if we didn't force them into a revenue share that made it a salary cap. The draft. The reason I object to the draft. Right. It's an impingement on freedoms that allows owners to govern themselves without governing themselves because the whole system is fixed so they can only spend so much, but now more than ever. Right. You guys just saw. Right. I don't think it's a small trade Dexter Lawrence being traded because the Giants believe they've gotten the best out of him. And whatever a number 10 pick will be instead of a three time Pro Bowler. They're, they want to fix the costs. They've got to start over. So you're not going to do a lot better than Dexter Lawrence with your 10th pick.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're.

[Tony Reali]

You're just going to fix the costs. You're just going to make it someone who's more affordable than Dexter Lawrence. You're not, you're not likely to do much better than Dexter Lawrence with the 10th pick.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, unless there he came off his worst year of his career and unless they're right about these seven years that he's played that Those are the best. And that's their job is to. Is to. Is to have the foresight to say, I don't want to pay for past production. So if you're going to get a player in return, number 10 overall could be their next Dexter Lawrence at a fixed cost, and that's a pretty good move.

[Tony Reali]

Okay, but do you believe just off the top of your head, like you're guessing you're running a franchise, you've got the number 10 pick in this year's draft, which might be Reuben Bain.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Yeah. Keep in mind, New York also has a number five. So they can get the next Dexter Lawrence with number five and then get a little window dressing with number 10.

[Dan Le Batard]

But.

[Tony Reali]

But you're not likely to do a whole lot better than what that guy is like. The only good thing about the Giants before Jackson dart and Scatter Boo. The only good thing is they had pass rush. They did.

[Jeremy Schaap]

They have a great defensive line, and they still probably have malik neighbors, too. Yeah. They have one of the most desirable defensive lines, even with Lawrence no longer being there.

[Amin Elhassan]

I thought it was a great trade for the Giants coming off. Coming off a very down year. He's been in the league for a long time now, and no one would have said you would get a top 10 pick in return because it's not just like, okay, fine, you're not only giving up the number 10 overall pick if you're Cincinnati, but you. You also have to pay the player. I'm like, if I'm Cincinnati, I'd rather paid Trey Hendrickson and have the number 10 overall pick. And they went this route. I thought it was a very strange

[Jeremy Schaap]

move from Cincinnati, but they're also weirdly, notoriously cheap also.

[Amin Elhassan]

But, but, but they're not going to be cheap here. They are going to pay him. And if I'm one of those players in the Bengals locker room, I certainly don't like the idea of paying a guy who's never been here before overpaying us.

[Tony Reali]

Okay. I think you guys are undervaluing what Dexter Lawrence does, because in my history watching this in Miami, the kinds of players that I have seen have that kind of dominance from inside pass rush position are just Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy, the best of what it is. You see since 2022. These are the numbers. Pressures from nose tack since 2022, Dexter Lawrence has 108. The next closest is Vita Vella with 32. So three times. Like, there's. I think you guys are underestimating what that is. Pressure right up the middle. There's one guy in the league who's done it since 2022. You might say that that'll take it out of the body. And he's not going to be as good because they've gotten his best years out of him. But Vita ve still very good. And he's got three times more than three times as many pressures from up. So I thought that the reason, like, Thibodeau's good, but I thought the reason their pass rush was good was right there. It was right in the center of their defense, lined up at nose tackle.

[Amin Elhassan]

Don't you think it's a reasonably smart move, though, to not pay a player new money coming off a down year?

[Tony Reali]

Oh, I'm not even disputing whether good trade or bad trade. I'm more interested in the Ryan Day conversation of fixed costs and the idea of when you can't control yourself. He's saying, let's make it a draft so we can get some order to this. Because what's happening right now in college football is. Is probably the purest form of free agency that we've seen since free agency started, like, where it's just there are no rules. The coaches are exasperated because there are no rules, and they're like, can we just get these costs in a place where I know what I have to pay somebody so that it can just be decided for me and I don't have to compete with everyone else who's just going to make the cost whatever it is that they want to make it, and I've got no control. He's got. What is the Ohio State payroll? Is it 21 million? Is it $22 million?

[Jeremy Schaap]

Don't believe what you read. It's way higher.

[Tony Reali]

Okay. I would imagine. But that's what. What's been reported is, that Ryan Day is running that all these guys are running roughly a 20 to 25 million dollars payroll. That's the way it's being reported. But because there's so little governance, so little transparency, Ryan Day is in a fight every day for the guy that he wants, and he can't get control of the costs because the cost is just going to keep going up. If you make it total free agency, if you make it total capital capitalism, all that's going to do is the price is going to keep going up.

[Jeremy Schaap]

It's just so crazy because Ryan Day has a program with one of the highest budgets that exists, Right? So it's like this is like Google being mad that there's free agency in the tech field. Like they can just go get almost anyone because they have a great reputation and they have the most money. I don't know why he of all people would be the most upset by this.

[Tony Reali]

Well, I've told you, I don't think he's the most upset upset by it. But this is something that he was proposing. It did surprise me. Like it surprised Tony that he was proposing it, even though he doesn't have, you know, a lot of details on what the system of this would work. But the answer to your question, Jeremy, is almost everyone who is in power in sports is at least a little bit of a control freak. And there is an absence of control in what they're doing in college football that if you listen to the last south beach session with Jeff Hafley, you will find out why somebody who thought he was getting into his dream job at Boston College being a head coach of a major program immediately realized my job is no longer coaching. It has nothing to do with helping young people. It's all sales. It doesn't even have to do with the X's and O's of can I win this game anymore? It's just sales. It's how do I generate revenue so that I can keep up with the other people who have more revenue?

[Jeremy Schaap]

Please think of the coaches, please. In big time college football. Please consider how this might be a little hard for Ryan Day.

[Tony Reali]

Amin Alhassan is there. I don't know what he feels about the first little bit of playoff basketball so far. I was hoping that he would join us as a drunk Cash Patel, because if you read the article in the

[Jeremy Schaap]

Atlantic, allegedly he just sued. I didn't read the Atlantic. Who does?

[Tony Reali]

Well, the details that were reported by the Atlantic on Kash Patel is that he has to be woken up from his drink. And it's hard to wake him up. He's missing meetings. He is drinking in a way that seems excessive near the buffets, the dead buffets in Las Vegas at the Poodle Room in Vegas.

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[Jeremy Schaap]

See moneylion.com Don LeBatard Chris Cody does an impression. Just be careful.

[Rachel Nichols]

Dangerous game here. This is A dangerous game.

[Tony Reali]

I don't want to play this game.

[Jeremy Schaap]

No. He was saying, man, I could do such a great country.

[Tony Reali]

No, I don't want to play this game.

[Jeremy Schaap]

He's like, man, this is too.

[Tony Reali]

We're going to like them. This is who we're going to trust.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, you do it.

[Rachel Nichols]

Let's let a mean do it.

[Jeremy Schaap]

I think stool guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you could do it, Chris, because you did a great Charles Barkley. You're one for one there.

[Tony Reali]

Did no one just hear the segment we just did with Amin? We cannot be taking judgment. Is not the council from the local drunk on whether or not you should do the impersonation of a black man stumbling over his words like you don't see the bad. There was Mose and Moody.

[Rachel Nichols]

Moody Moses.

[Jeremy Schaap]

That it sounds worse. Be careful, man.

[Tony Reali]

We gotta like. We cannot do this. It's too close to the line. This is where the line is. Something legitimately funny can't be funny because we're scared our ginger's gonna do something racist by accident.

[Amin Elhassan]

Carry the hell on, Dan.

[Rachel Nichols]

Rachel.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan. The line is where we feel alive, though.

[Amin Elhassan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stool cats.

[Tony Reali]

You're not as Cash Patel today. You're joining us as just a mean with his weekend observations.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was worried that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference, Dan, but yes, just to mean as his weekend observations.

[Tony Reali]

All right, give me the music for Amin.

[Amin Elhassan]

Then it is time for Amin to

[Tony Reali]

share his game notes.

[Dan Le Batard]

No one in the media will tell

[Tony Reali]

you what happened better than my voice.

[Dan Le Batard]

Amin weekend observations is brought to you by Miller Lite legendary moments. Start with the light. Dan, I've been waiting damn near a week to say this. Last week you repeatedly kept talking about Doc Rivers going to the hall of Fame as though he were going in as a player. Talking about what a good player he was. Talking about the hall of Fame being an opportunity to go back and relive his youth. Dan, he's going in as a coach. There will be no reliving of his playing career any more than we wax poetic about Gregg Popovich's step back or Red Auerbach's killer crossover. Now that that's out of the way,

[Tony Reali]

Doc Rivers is an actual NBA player. Those guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, he's not going in as a player. I. I don't care what his playing resume was. He's not being honored as a player. So they're not going to be like, remember that time when you play for the Hawks and you guys. No, none of that It'll be a lot of. I remember the time I told Kevin Garnett this or I remember when Grant Hill was hurt and I told him that that's what it's going to be about. It has nothing to do with his playing career. Career. Just because you're in the hall of Fame doesn't mean you're a Hall of Fame for everything you did. It's for something specific.

[Amin Elhassan]

You don't know that someone might bring up one game he played in. It's possible.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody's bringing that up. Nobody. What? An opening weekend of NBA playoff basketball. Wemby lived up to the hype. KD's surprise injury gave hope and life to the Lakers and the Raptors and Cavs in the honorary NBA TV game slot. Even though that doesn't exist anymore, it'll always be the NBA TV game. How many people are complaining about the games being on Prime? Are also impaired at using high tech sophisticated solutions like Google. It's not hard. Where's the game? Google Raptors, cat. Oh, it's on Prime. Done. Don't blame it on streaming or technology. Or it's literally just on a different channel than you've been accustomed to for the last 20 years.

[Tony Reali]

Years.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's all it is. It could be on CBS Sports. You wouldn't know because you didn't know it was on CBS Sports. You gotta just look up where the game is, guys. It's not hard.

[Tony Reali]

Don't you find that interesting though, Amin that it's such a complaint?

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I find it interesting in the same way that I find a lot of these NBA complaints to be just purely PR things. Right when the, the wild card starts NFL weekend, do you know? Instantly. Oh, this one's on cbs. This one's on Fox. No, you don't. You don't. You look it up.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Oh, depending on the conference, it could be Fox, could be cbs.

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't know. Just off the top of your head. You gotta figure that thing out.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's quick. I put channel four. Okay. It's not there.

[Tony Reali]

All right.

[Amin Elhassan]

Must be on seven. I put seven.

[Tony Reali]

Boom.

[Amin Elhassan]

Found it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what's quicker than that? Googling it. Raptors. Oh, there it is. Before I got calves out, it was.

[Tony Reali]

I don't know. All my search engines are contaminated. I'm getting a bunch. This is not what it used to be. It's not as easy for me to find. This is easy to find. But just in general, it's. I. My sources are less credible than they used to be.

[Dan Le Batard]

This, this one's not one of the areas of concern. What channel is the game on? Boom. It's instant. Warriors getting knocked out in the play in robbed us of a few more opportunities to revel the greatness of Steph Curry. That three pointer he hit against the Clippers, he looks in the crowd and he says, did that go in because it's the Clippers. So you don't know. Are they cheering because I missed or are they cheering because I made it? Spoiler alert. They cheered because he made it. Instead, we got a funeral. Years from now, I'll be able to say I was there when Steve Kerr and Steph Curry and Draymond Green addressed the media for the final time as a trio. Also at that game, I was in a photo on media row with Tim Kawakami, Wright Thompson, J. Adande and Marcus Thompson. This is the like when the warriors are tried out. A lineup of Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Raymond Green and Ian Clark. I mean, Clark.

[Tony Reali]

Oh, no.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, those. Dan, those names, these are titans of the industry.

[Tony Reali]

So are you.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, no, come on, man.

[Tony Reali]

What do you mean?

[Dan Le Batard]

Kawakami with Tim Kawakami was in. Was in Great White Hype, man, in 96.

[Tony Reali]

What are you talking about? Put it on the poll. Juju. Bigger name. This is. He's going to lose this because Kawakami's longer name, but bigger name. Tim Kawakami or Amino Hassan.

[Dan Le Batard]

You could do it with any of those names. Wright Thompson, Jay Adande, Marcus Thompson. These are, like I said, Titans.

[Tony Reali]

I think that's your class. Do I have this wrong? Am I over inflated? I mean, these are your peers.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're not my peers.

[Tony Reali]

You're not Ian Clark. You're not Ian Clark. Clark.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, Clark, man. Not. Not with those names. Now if you put some of the other. If you put Mike Ryan and Jeremy Tashay, Chris Cody. And then it's like, okay, Zaslow, then, yeah, maybe I'm a Titan, but not with those names. Perhaps my favorite part on Friday night, Draymond Green walking into the post game with a beer in hand. Totally unrelated. Did you guys catch that piece in the Atlantic? Okay, Patel. No wonder I'm able to nail that impression so easily. And you can bet on that.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's always funny.

[Dan Le Batard]

Death, taxes, and the Celtics whooping that Sixer ass in the playoffs. Dan, it's been 44 years since the Sixers beat the Celtics in the playoffs.

[Amin Elhassan]

82. It's crazy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, but I feel played a lot.

[Tony Reali]

Is that like Mo Cheeks and Andrew Toney? And Moses Malone. Team like that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Moses wasn't there yet. That's how long ago it was. Moses wasn't there yet.

[Amin Elhassan]

It was before they won the title.

[Tony Reali]

He's talking about the original Moses, the biblical Moses.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's like, I don't know about that Red Sea, folks, but I feel different about this time. Psych. At one point, Celtics fans started chanting, we want Boston. That's cold, doc. That's cold as hell. Like, oh, you wanted this, we'll 10 it for you.

[Tony Reali]

10. Celtics hit a three. 10.

[Dan Le Batard]

Portland Trailblazers new owner Tom Condon with the rare strategy of trying to make a splash by instantly being a cheap bastard. Sorry, I mean exhibiting the behavior of a cheap bastard. Splash. They didn't travel the two way guys on the road trip, which is insane. How much are you saving? The flight's already going. It's two more hotel rooms. What are we doing with per diem? Is that what we're saving on? And according to Jake Fisher, they are allegedly looking to pay the next head coach about the same amount you'd pay the head coach at the University of South Florida. I know Portland must be thrilled about what comes next. Death, taxes. And Knicks Fans overreacting on 7th Ave. To a Game 1 victory. They're still saying, f Trey Young, by the way, I love that guy's been traded. He's long gone. He's still.

[Tony Reali]

He's a wizard.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yep. The Detroit Pistons started their Twitter account in October of 2008. They haven't won a home playoff game since then. Shout out to Law Murray for that one.

[Tony Reali]

1.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stephen A. Smith going to WrestleMania in the middle of the playoffs is not going to help him beat the allegations. You know who goes to WrestleMania during the playoffs? Zaz probably. But you know who else will go to WrestleMania during the playoffs? Type of guy who plays solitaire during the finals? Prediction Thunder. And three,

[Tony Reali]

what do you have? You have the Suns quitting. You have the Suns doing like what they did before game seven with DeAndre Ayton where they just don't even. They don't come out for game four.

[Dan Le Batard]

I. I got, I got the Thunder being so overwhelming that the league steps in and says, oh, wow, okay, throw the towel.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Really? Man, that five. Oh, start that five. Zero run to start game one. A couple little guys in Phoenix are like nudging each other's elbows. You see this? We got a shot.

[Tony Reali]

God.

[Dan Le Batard]

GA means rule of two is back. We're reviewing new episodes of Mall Shadow Lord Every Wednesday at 3pm Eastern Noon Pacific Live on YouTube. I say, check your local listings, but basically just check my threads or. Or Instagram and I'll post the link. Zachariah Branch arrested for blocking a sidewalk. That's going to be the reason why some dumb team legitimizes not drafting him. He also got arrested for prowling. Never heard that one before. You guys ever heard that someone got arrested for prowling?

[Tony Reali]

That is a legitimate crime. That is something you can. You can be accused of being a foul owl on the prowl.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, I feel like if you're being charged with prowling, it's like, we didn't like the way he walked. Walked a little too ominous the way he was walking.

[Tony Reali]

So proud. Prowling. Is that what kind of. That's a misdemeanor. Prowling. What kind of. What kind of charge is prowling?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, it is Athens, Georgia, so they might knock it up to a felony. Tony the Tiger, you've been warned. No prowling. Tiger woods, not so much. Low blow. Okay, the finalists for NBA awards have been released, including three black men for coach of the year. Excuse me. It was two black men and a Christian. Hey, I wonder if a Christian has ever won coach of the year. You guys remember that?

[Tony Reali]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nobody remembers that.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Never forget it.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah. No, you. You've held it against Missoula all along.

[Jeremy Schaap]

He should win.

[Dan Le Batard]

To be honest, I wonder the last time a Christian was in the finals, so. Oh, I don't know. Every effing year. New season of bar Rescue and we've got you covered right here at. Here's the Science of Bar Rescue podcast, hosted by real life bar and restaurant consultant Chelsea Reynolds, commercial kitchen and food truck vet Colin Cassard, and two guys who would totally identify with being Christians if it meant getting some free brews. Subscribe rate, review wherever you get. Podcasts us. Let's round out this commercial portion of our proceedings. Episode 307. Come on, go to high school.

[Tony Reali]

Weekend observations cannot just be you promoting your things, Amine. That's not your observations. You got to do better than this. You've become what it is we were lamenting earlier about WrestleMania being all spots and ads. Weekend observations have become all spots and ads for a mean vehicle.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you guys like the free weekend observations? Then here you go. It's come in a commercial interruption.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Arbitration for him too.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan Cinefo, episode 307 Mac and Devin Go to High School starring Snoop Dogg and Wiz Khalifa. Good movie. In good conscience, call this a movie? It's not a movie, Tony. It's 65 minutes long, of which approximately 40% is music video.

[Jeremy Schaap]

I saw it in college. It was a good movie.

[Dan Le Batard]

They play that one song about a thousand times, even use it as the basis of dialogue. So what? We get drunk. So what? We smoke weed? We're just trying to have fun and we don't care who sees. That was real dialogue. I was not singing a song. Snoop drops that line sincerely in that thing. What the hell? Speaking of hell, Art Briles those are the weekend observations, sports fans.

[Jeremy Schaap]

All the sports are coming together. It's a great time to just sit on your couch, text your friend, hey, come over. Let's watch the games. And when I do that to my friends, guess what? They text me back, I got the Miller Lights. That's right. They pick up Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. And they come over to my place, we take that first sip and we realize, man, we just made a regular old fashioned night into a special night. Thank you, Miller Lite. And shortly thereafter, we got multiple screens on. Everybody's dialed into something different. And the whole night just keeps building and building and building. That's why I reached for Miller Lite. It can take an ordinary night and take it to an extraordinary place. It's clean, refreshing, easy to drink, brewed for taste, with simple ingredients, just 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. The original light beer since 1975 and still hitting different cheers to legendary moments with Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Hey, Roy, buddy. Yo. You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet? Oh, absolutely.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Yeah? You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo. Oh, delicious. It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo, man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo.

[Rachel Nichols]

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[Tony Reali]

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[Amin Elhassan]

this is the Don Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Tony Reali]

Let's include a mean on some of what it is that we were talking about. The warriors go where from here?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I mean, look, you got to start with Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr talked like someone who wasn't coming back. He's like, I'm gonna take some time and I gotta talk it out with Joe lacob and Mike Dunleaf. And like, I'm like, man, that doesn't sound like someone who's raring to come back. It sounded like someone who's coming to grips with the reality that this thing is over. The end of the game, you guys saw him and Draymond and Steph kind of huddle and, and, and Steph told us later. He said he was like, yeah, I don't know what happens after this, but it's been a hell of a run. And I'm like, Jesus, what are you like? Steph was. I'm, like, shocked by it. Draymond gave one of the most introspective post game press conferences I've ever heard anyone give, including, he said, the penalty for. For failure isn't us. He said, we're going to get paid and maybe we get traded, but we're going to be fine. He said, what I feel bad about losing is all the people who depend on us, because when we're successful, no one talks about anyone's job. And he's talking about the coaches, he's talking about the video coordinators, he's talking about ushers in the arena. He said, when we're winning and we're successful, everyone gets to keep working. When we lose, everyone else has to worry about their jobs and their livelihood. And. And I've never. I worked in this business for almost 25 years now, Dan. I've never. I've never heard a player speak like that.

[Tony Reali]

That's why you're A Titan level. That's why you're a Titan. 25 years. 25. I don't understand why you're not making yourself a Titan. Why are you and J A Adande not allowed to be peers?

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on. Because Jay Adande is a Hall of Famer. Because Jay Adande covered, like, the 96 bulls, right? Because Jay Adande covered Shaq and Kobe, Lakers up close and personal. I mean, he was one of the. The most plugged in people on that beat for one of the great teams of all time. Jay Adande is literally a Hall of Famer. He's in the Naismith.

[Tony Reali]

You ran into the bowels of an arena when Tim Duncan screamed after making a shot because you were scared of him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now, see, that's. You know what the problem is, Dan? I have two careers. I have a basketball career and I have a media career. And neither of them separately rise to the level of what Jay Adande or Marcus Thompson or Tim Kawakami or Wright Thompson have accomplished and achieved in the one industry.

[Tony Reali]

Do you believe Steph Curry ends his career?

[Dan Le Batard]

Warrior, you can't promise anything. I think yes. I think there's a desire for him to stay. I think the warriors, obviously, they make a ton of money having him around, and I don't think he'll ever ask to leave. But when you have billionaires who think they know better, like the guy in Portland who was off to a tremendous start there, you can get some wacky decisions. Dan, I could have asked you in 2015, could you ever imagine Dwyane Wade playing anywhere else? And we all said no. Come on now. It's three. It's Miami, Wade county and all that stuff. But he left. It happens. It could happen to anybody. So I would say never say never. But my inclination would be, no, he'll be there.

[Tony Reali]

Any surprise to you that Lawrence Frank, the president of the Clippers, said they intend to build around Kauai, that they intend to win around Kawhi?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. So I. I actually got to talk with. With, you know. Right. Marcus Thompson and Tip Kawakami, because they're the ones that. The Titans. Yeah, they are the ones that came out with the report that the warriors thought they had a deal for Kawhi Leonard at the trade deadline. And. And then the Clippers pulled out. And, you know, I was thinking to myself, what is. What could possibly make them double and triple down? And this is where I come back to billionaires thinking that they're just better than us and they're smarter than us. Right. Because the smart money, Dan, is, hey, we traded Zubots and we got two first round picks there. We traded away James Harden and we got a young guy in return in Garland. So capitalize now. Build your asset list now. Because when the league comes to garnish wages and garnish picks and suspend people, you want this organization to be healthy enough to withstand it. Unless your owner is convinced that there's no chance that we're going to get found guilty of anything. And in which case, why would we evacuate now in our moment of triumph, let's double down and triple down. And that's when you got a billionaire who's richer than everybody. That happens sometimes.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right. I mean, it's time to get serious. You know what time it is? Let's play another edition of you know about that. You ready for this, Amin?

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm ready.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right. First up, the Detroit Pistons were the only home team this weekend and the number one seed, of course, to lose game one of the NBA playoffs. You know about Detroit being in trouble?

[Dan Le Batard]

I do. Not only did I mention in the weekend observations, but months ago, remember when everyone was fawning over them, I said, I'm not sure. I'm not sure about the Pistons because there's certain key indicators you need to be good at to succeed in the playoffs, and they aren't good at any of them. Now, it's only game one. It's a long series. And by the way, if I'm going to put my money on anybody, it won't be the Orlando Magic, who four or five days ago, we thought were going to be an open revolt and overthrow their head coach. Now here they are up 10 in their series, but there's a lot of questions that they have as well. Well, so I'm not as confident in Orlando, but it does expose a little bit of the stuff that I was worried about in Detroit.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, sounds like you know about that, Amin. The San Antonio spurs, they win game one, 111.98. In his playoff debut, Victor Wembanyama, 35 points. He was five of six from three. You know about that? Wembanyama, Big playoff debut.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I also know about the ridiculous number of stats, stats that came out of that game. Like, oh, he's the most points in a debut by a Spur in their first playoff. Dave. I'm like, look, if it's not something like, like, yo, he did it more than wilt, or like, he broke some sort of record, don't mention it to me. I'm just gonna assume. Yeah, That's a pretty good debut.

[Tony Reali]

Well, you know, I don't need.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't need.

[Tony Reali]

What I'll mention to you, Amin, is that I have never seen a player that size be able, in a sequence, to bring the ball up the court, go behind his back, go to the rim after going behind his back and taking it the length of the court. And then the next time down, he shoots it from 30ft and also makes that like. That's. It's just lunacy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Phenomenal lunacy. All these words. Fine, don't give me. Victor Duama had the most points in the first half of a playoff debut in the history. No, this is dumb. This is not a real stat that we should care about, right? That what you just described him doing, that. That's way more impressive to me than he did this, more than any Spur who's been drafted in the last 25. Shut up.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, Sounds like you know about that, even though you want me to shut up. I mean, you know about LeBron and Bronnie being on the court together for the first time ever in the playoffs? You know about that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Boy, let me tell you something, man. Shout out to the basketball gods, because we sat here and we wrote the eulogy for the Lakers. No Luka, no Austin Reeves. It's done. By the time they get back, the series will already be over and all that stuff. And then the basketball gods said, here's a gift. Kevin Durant the day before will get hurt and miss game one. And all of a sudden, all that negativity, it goes away. It opens up, and now you've got a. A Lakers team led by LeBron, savvy veteran, right? Going up against a Rockets team that has basically last year's playoffs worth of experience, and they win game one. And now you have. Luca might be back sooner rather than later. It in infiltrates hope into the situation, and as a result, you get a blowout win and Bronny gets to play.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, Sounds like you know about that. I mean, you know about Luka Doncic now being eligible for NBA awards. You know about that?

[Dan Le Batard]

Dude, this is the dumbest thing ever. Get rid of this dumb rule and just accept that the voters know best. There's no voter who's gonna vote a guy who played 40 games or 50 games to be all NBA in the same way that everyone would have looked at Luca's body of work and Kate Cunningham's and Anthony Edwards and said, no, we've seen enough.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Enough.

[Dan Le Batard]

We know these are one of the best players in the League right now. It's a dumb rule. And the idea that we have to have some sort of arbitration in order to make him eligible is ridiculous.

[Amin Elhassan]

All right, Sounds like you know about that dumb award rule finally. I mean, eight games this weekend, only one of them was single digits. It was a nine point Laker win. You know about there being no close games this weekend?

[Dan Le Batard]

I do, but like that happens. It's the playoffs and, and we've talked about, about the three point shot doing that a lot. In a lot of these instances, you make some threes, the other team misses some threes, all of a sudden a little turns into a lot. I expect the games are going to be competitive moving forward. I expect a lot of these series are going to be tied after we're done with the first two games. Slate.

[Tony Reali]

We're about to talk about Woj. Do you want to be a part of that conversation or would you like to leave?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's talk. What do we got?

[Amin Elhassan]

Nice.

[Tony Reali]

Well, did you see the report? Did you see there? I was surprised to.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't keep up with Tate.

[Tony Reali]

Bonaventure, St. Bonaventure. It's being reported that Woj is clashing with donors, that Woj is getting involved in recruiting. That Woj, who left the $7 million a year job for a $75,000 a year job, isn't getting along with others.

[Dan Le Batard]

What? But his bedside manner is so well renowned. He gets along and he's so collaborative. Dan. He's really a guy who brings people under the tent and brings them together in an inspirational kind of way. I cannot believe that this is happening.

[Amin Elhassan]

Huh.

[Tony Reali]

The other thing that's being reported is that the people of St. Bonaventure, the donors, feel like they are being looked down on by Woj because they're Trump voters.

[Dan Le Batard]

That one I'm gonna sit out. As much as I'd love, as much as I'd like to pile on, I'm

[Tony Reali]

like, yep, well, but you were sarcastic there. And I don't think a lot of people know that Woj created fiefdoms at espn, that he created a place he and his people had power. But there were others around him that felt like he was hungry about how competitive he was in a way that trampled teamwork. I don't believe that that's a known. I don't believe that's a known thing. It's known to you. I don't believe that that's a generally known thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

There's a general animosity around him about how he gets his News stories. Right. And how he handles breaking news internally. So we're talking about internal dynamics, how he gets his stories, who his sources are, whether the sources are compelled to work with him or desire to work with him. Forget about that for a second. But when you talk about the internal operation of people who are working to be newsbreakers as well, being told you have to run it through him first before you can go public with it so that he gets the credit. And if the story is written, you'll get a little byline in there, but it is going to be posted as reported by Adrian Wodanowski, first and foremost at top billing. This is something that he did constantly. Not to mention backstabbing and trying to go around behind people's backs within the power structure, trying to get them in trouble. I'm one of those people, Rachel. Nick is one of those people. I'm not guessing. I know for a fact he called people and said, amin's doing this. And then when they talked to me about it, said, what did I do? And then we watched the tape, and they're like, yeah, you didn't do anything. Yeah, I'm like, I know, I know, but that's who you guys hired. You guys hired a guy who feels it's necessary to pick up the phone and complain about how other people are doing their jobs, despite them not doing any of the dirty tactics that he did when he was working. But guess what? He's back home where he belongs, in Olin or Binghamton or wherever the hell that place is. It's not the end of the world, Dan, but you can see it from there.

[Rachel Nichols]

I, I He happens to know Great Scott. He happens to know he happens to know Gather everyone, Get the children.

[Jeremy Schaap]

He happens to know so wise.

[Amin Elhassan]

Apparently the recruiting tensions with the way that he's been recruiting with the coach, the coach is not happy as well. I screwed up the timing there. I saw, like, I started to talk, and then. And then Roy put up the rap sign, and then I, I looked at the clock.

[Tony Reali]

Now you're 11 seconds over, just droning. You don't have the conclusion of the segment. Mike is disappointed.

[Jeremy Schaap]

Sports fans. All the sports are coming together. It's a great time to just sit on your couch, text your friend, hey, come over. Let's watch the games. And when I do that to my friends, guess what? They text me back, I got the Miller Lights. That's right. They pick up Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. And they come over to my place, we take that first sip and we realize, man, we just made a regular old fashioned night into a special night. Thank you Miller Light. And shortly thereafter we got multiple screens on. Everybody's dialed into something different, and the whole night just keeps building and building and building. That's why I reached for Miller Light. It can take an ordinary night and take it to an extraordinary place. It's clean, refreshing, easy to drink, brewed for taste with simple ingredients, just 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. The original light beer since 1975 and still hitting different cheers to legendary moments with Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.