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Torah Couture
Hey, everyone. My name is Torah Couture and I'm the host of Tell Me what Happened, a podcast that shares true stories of people helping people. We're back with another season and have a ton of amazing new episodes. From freak accidents to unlikely friendships. Plus, this season has one of my favorite stories we've ever done on the podcast. If you're new here, welcome. And if you're already a fan of the show, welcome back. I can't wait for you to listen to season six of of the Tell Me what Happened podcast. Out now.
Stassi Schroeder
K Pop Demon Hunters, Saja Boy's Breakfast Meal and Hunt Tricks Meal have just dropped at McDonald's. They're calling this a battle for the fans. What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day.
Dan Levatar
It is an honor to share.
Stassi Schroeder
No, it's our honor.
Dan Levatar
It is our larger honor.
Stassi Schroeder
No, really, stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.
Dan LeBatard
Ba da ba ba ba.
Dan Levatar
And participate in McDonald's while supplies last.
Stassi Schroeder
I am your host, Stassi Schroeder. Welcome to Tell Me Lies, the official podcast. What's the most unhinged thing of season three? Steven.
Dan LeBatard
Because he's so evil, I do think he is misunderstood.
Stassi Schroeder
You see everyone face consequences.
Dan LeBatard
It's intoxicating.
Stassi Schroeder
The writers just know how to trick. Yeah, there's always a twist in this show. It's nothing you would expect. Tell Me Lies, the official podcast, now streaming and stream the new season of Tell Me Lies. Lies on Hulu and Hulu on Disney.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats podcast.
Tony
Every year we ask the same question. Will the Dolphins get it right for once? Let's find out together. Draft Watch. Presented by bucked up Thursday, 7:45 Eastern on YouTube at Le Batard Show. Be there or be square. I added that part.
Dan LeBatard
No one's saying that anymore. When's the last time anyone said be there or be square anywhere in America?
Roy
A lot of things were losing like that. Like, nobody says, up your button around the corner.
Tony
Wow, that's true.
Mike Ryan
Tony, up your nose with a rubber hose.
Tony
Up your button around the corner.
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Is anyone saying be there or be square any more? I don't think we're calling people squares anymore. I think square went out as an insult in about the 70s, did it not? To call somebody a square.
Mike Ryan
Trying to cancel me.
Jessica
Well, it's really offensive to round people.
Dan LeBatard
That's why I know it. Jessica will be here in moments and that draft party is going to be fun. Greg Cody is preparing his Exactos. He's going to be with us on Thursday night. He is resting. It's the reason that he's not here. Can you guys get for me, please, some of that wonderful sound from the Minnesota game that was played late last night. Zaz couldn't stay up for it. His tablet and he went to sleep early. And so he didn't get to see how on the road, Minnesota beats Denver at Denver. And afterward, it was interesting on a couple of fronts. First of all, the best shot blocking guard there's ever been is Dwyane Wade. And Anthony Edwards was bothering people last night because his athleticism is astounding. So the sounds that I want to get are not just of Anthony Edwards. It's also Jaden McDaniels saying after the game, he just was basically saying, we kept attacking their weak defenders. And listen to the rest of the sound because you don't hear this very much. He's offensive to really getting over here today.
Jaden McDaniels
Go out. Jokic, Jamal, all the bad defenders, Tim Hardaway, Cam Johnson, Aaron Gordon, the whole team, like, just go at them.
Mike Ryan
They're all bad defenders.
Jaden McDaniels
Yeah, they're all bad defenders.
Mike Ryan
It looked like that.
Zaz
I like it.
Mike Ryan
It looked like they were. That's how they got back into the game. You saw a team in game two fight like it was game seven, like at least four people crashing the boards. Even Chenzo out rebounding guys that are way taller than him. Effort really showed.
Zaz
It's a good rival. Like, it's a sneaky good rivalry. Wolves and Nuggets, this might be one
Roy
of the best ones we've seen in a long time.
Zaz
They've met now three of the last four postseasons. This is the rubber match. You know, if you want to do it like that. But I like it. I like when these teams hate each other. Too much hugging and kissing in the NBA.
Dan LeBatard
It is a sneaky good rivalry. A lot of the games are being played late in Denver and some people are missing them. But compared to Denver, Minnesota has underachieved. This is as good a unit look. Minnesota has struggled for years. They had the Kevin Garnett years. And Kevin Garnett, did he make a Western Conference final?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, when they added Littrell and Sam Cassell.
Dan LeBatard
So one year he made it to the Western Conference finals as somebody who was regarded at the time as the greatest power forward playing at the time and one of the greatest that has ever existed. And then Denver wins the championship. Denver's expected to win that series. Anthony Edwards season this year has been a disappointment. They were supposed to ascend and climb and this is a monster, monster test in the first round. But let's listen to Anthony Edwards as he talks about blocking shots. And he says it in a way that is not customary for the face of leagues to normally say things like this in post game press conferences.
Jaden McDaniels
I just be watching Dwyane Wade clips he was beating at the rim. So I just be trying to beat at the rim, that's all. Like people coming to rim. If Rudy ain't down there, I'm trying to beat that. I don't care who it is. So if you come down there, you see fever down there, I'm going up.
Mike Ryan
So you're not thinking about, I don't give a damn.
Jaden McDaniels
I'm trying to beat that.
Dan LeBatard
I really don't think that there's another superstar in sports that cusses that much in press conference.
Zaz
I mean, he's so clearly doing it on purpose.
Dan LeBatard
But no one else is doing that. He is the only one who curses that much in press conferences and no one has told him shit.
Roy
Do you, do you see him as a superstar or do you see him as face of the league? Because we were talking about the superstar all star, you know, debate earlier. I think I have Ant and Wemby on face of the league side instead of superstar.
Zaz
But Anthony Edwards said he doesn't want to be face of the league.
Roy
I know he doesn't want to be, but he is.
Dan LeBatard
What are you doing there? What's the distinction you're making?
Roy
So we have face of the hierarchy.
Mike Ryan
I don't think this is like a shark movie being in the horror genre.
Roy
This is.
Tony
He's saying there's a level above superstar.
Roy
Exactly. Which is face of the league, which is Wemby Ant.
Mike Ryan
But they're all. When you're walking down the NBA blockbuster, they're in the super style superstar aisle.
Roy
They are.
Tony
How's Jokic not like face of the League?
Roy
Because he's not America.
Dan LeBatard
He's a loaf of bread of the league.
Mike Ryan
He's the arms of the.
Roy
I know, but it's different.
Zaz
I would love to hear you explain how.
Roy
Because Jokic does xenophobia. No, he's French. He is French. Which again, why? Another piece of the puzzle. But he. Wemby speaks the language better. He's more of a, of a character than Jokic is yogic. Doesn't really care about being.
Tony
Wemby thinks he's better than.
Roy
I think does think he's better than everybody else.
Mike Ryan
I think Jokic is more of a character than Wemby and Wemby is more charismatic. But Jokic is a great character in the NBA, but we never see it. He doesn't care. What adds to his character is that he only shows emotion when he's watching his horses.
Roy
That's why he's a superstar.
Mike Ryan
His arms are always bleeding.
Roy
That's why he's a superstar.
Dan LeBatard
He's Tim Duncan in terms of feeling like a personality, character type, but even more cartoonish because there has not ever been a player in a league who's not James Harden, who everybody is wondering how much does he actually care.
Mike Ryan
He looks unhappy to be there. That's not something that could be said for Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan was just boring.
Zaz
So boring.
Mike Ryan
Joker. It seems like he hates being there.
Dan LeBatard
It makes it unlike anyone else in the league. Correct. It is a funny lane. If all of these were storylines and wrestling characters, this is a funny wrestling character. The guy going 40, 15 and 12 while yawning while in mid. Yawn.
Tony
I've put Brooks Koepka in the competition in the same category of great at a sport, but it's like. It seems like he doesn't like it.
Mike Ryan
He's like Hancock. You remember that movie with Will Smith. He just hated being all powerful.
Tony
I like this game of athletes who are great at their sport but seem like they hate it. I'm going to get back to you with more.
Dan LeBatard
There just aren't many like you're going to. You're going to have a hard time.
Mike Ryan
Every tennis player ever.
Dan LeBatard
You're going to have a hard time finding where you find great, great excellence. Profound indifference. It's. That's why it's great character. It's. It's why what Mike is saying is so that it's a unique. It's a lane unique to him because it is even different than Duncan. It's like, no, I'd rather be with the horses. It's like at the very. There wasn't anybody who questioned how much Duncan cared.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. I mean, no one question like Jess can probably answer this. Verstappen looks like he hates being there, but no one questions how much he cares. With Jokic, people question that he's excellent at it. But Versappen looks like he's just lamenting being around any person.
Roy
But Jokic says he cares.
Tony
Right?
Roy
He said as much like I care about the mvp, I care about these Things I care about being great and winning. We are just putting that on him because of the way he looks like he's got resting indifference face.
Dan LeBatard
Jessica, do you believe that Jokic has resting indifference phase?
Stassi Schroeder
I believe that Tony tightroping the lane of describing different cultural differences with guys from Europe is a really good spot for.
Roy
Not the question.
Stassi Schroeder
Doing that.
Roy
Not, not, not the question whatsoever.
Mike Ryan
Wemby fan, obviously it is strange that
Dan LeBatard
you're already out on Wemby.
Roy
Everything is perfect.
Alex Jones
Dan.
Roy
Give me something. Give me some sort of flaw. Give me some sort of edge.
Mike Ryan
This is.
Roy
What is he doing?
Mike Ryan
This is what we were warning against. This is the one year it gets to be fun. If he. If he takes down okc, we all get to celebrate it. And then it gets annoying.
Stassi Schroeder
I also hate Angel Reese.
Mike Ryan
Oh, thank you. An ally can't stand her.
Dan LeBatard
Mike Tomlin, we had breaking news earlier in the show. We've got some more breaking news here as we talk. Billy Donovan is gone as the Chicago
Mike Ryan
Bulls coach makes that Todd golden story that was reported by Yahoo Sports earlier a little bit more interesting that if Steve Kerr leaves, Todd golden might have the inside track at replacing him.
Jessica
Really?
Mike Ryan
In Golden State? Yeah. I'm not sure how his off court stuff will fly in the Bay Area, but. But there's apparently a relationship there with the Lake of. So Todd golden would go and then you got Billy Donovan.
Zaz
Okay. I like that. UNC though, like UNC couldn't have waited. You wouldn't rather have Billy Donovan?
Mike Ryan
No, Unc. The reason why Billy Donovan is not with UNC is because UNC did not want to wait for Billy Donovan. Billy Donovan made it clear he wanted to wait till after the regular season and North Carolina wanted to move.
Dan LeBatard
Look at Jessica smiling there, Todd. Golden State works.
Stassi Schroeder
I thought I made a good joke, but no one heard it.
Jessica
Oh, Steve Curt of the Bulls.
Tony
I got you.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that was funny.
Dan LeBatard
Come on. Billy Donovan. If I put in front of him the choice North Carolina or Florida, which do you think he would choose?
Zaz
Probably North Carolina. Just because he's already done it at Florida. It feels like a no win situation. You know, I'd say North Carolina.
Dan LeBatard
Cause it would appeal to me to go back there if I felt like I was finishing my career. Billy Donovan, how he. He's another one of these guys like
Zaz
Quinn Snyder that is gotta be early 60s, maybe gotta be 60. Right?
Dan LeBatard
But. But he's been a young coach for so long. Or I. Or I think of him always as a young coach because he came in as a young coach. Even Though he's not young anymore. I'm not as sure as you are by that. Am I being an idiot when I wonder whether or not he would like the Florida job more than the North Carolina job? Even though empirically, objectively, the North Carolina job is a better job.
Mike Ryan
And we've seen it before, like 20 years ago when he signed with the Orlando Magic. He liked being in Florida so much that he's like, I think I want to go. Billy Donovan is 60 years old. So if he were actually in the playoffs, he would be older than Quinn Snyder.
Dan LeBatard
Jessica, what did you make of the news that broke here that Mike Tomlin is going to NBC? I do believe he will be better than Tony Dungy at that job.
Stassi Schroeder
I agree with that, Dan. I was. I don't know. There was one thing, Dan, that sort of, like, to me, started the official Pittsburgh draft week, which was a video I saw this weekend of Todd Haley celebrating a win in the ufl, one of Pittsburgh's, you know, chosen sons. And the Mike Tomlin sort of was like a nice, like. So here's Todd Haley. Well, it was described as. I wouldn't call it twerking. He's like, shaking his ass. But I don't. I was like, oh, they must have won the championship. No, they just won their first game. He was just really happy. So good. Good for Todd Haley. But then this Mike Tomlin news, like, wow, this is like day two now of Pittsburgh draft week. I don't know what's going to happen on day three. I'm really excited. Maybe we'll finally get the Aaron Rodgers, I'm coming back. Slash, I'm not coming back announcement. That would be nice to get before Thursday night.
Mike Ryan
Todd Haley, coaching his second game for Columbus in the ufl, had to coach the first one because their head coach was in jail.
Dan LeBatard
Ted Ginn. There was a DUI there. I do think, though, Jessica, I believe that I can say definitionally, factually, that if you put your hands on your knees and shake your ass, that is twerking.
Mike Ryan
It's popping.
Tony
We can all agree that's as close to twerking as Todd Haley's ever gonna get.
Mike Ryan
I don't know about that pineapple culture type of thing going on over here. I don't know. He does look different.
Stassi Schroeder
God, I'm glad we're here. Feels like something Greg would know about. Going a lot of cruises.
Dan LeBatard
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Todd Haley also looks like somebody that would be chosen for a Cavaliers leaf blowing promotion where you just Blew a bunch of air in his face.
Mike Ryan
You see that guy in the crowd, you go get him.
Dan LeBatard
But if you put your hands on your knees and you shake your ass,
Tony
I'm with you, Danny. He's twerking.
Dan LeBatard
Your attention.
Dan Levatar
He's not.
Tony
Well, but he's twerking.
Dan LeBatard
He's not twerking. Well, thank you for that. I don't know.
Stassi Schroeder
It's up for me to decide.
Dan LeBatard
All right, so then decided twerk queen.
Stassi Schroeder
Well, who you're talking? So there's a Puerto Rican guy in my building to awkwardly change the subject to whenever he sees Willow because she's from Puerto Rico. Calls her Boricua. It's very sweet. And I would have known how to pronounce that word.
Torah Couture
Oof.
Jessica
Unlike all for you, Dan.
Stassi Schroeder
All the hot dog people in Pittsburgh.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Were you embarrassed by your. Your brethren there, the way that they did this? Boricue.
Stassi Schroeder
Someone just said in my ear, embarrassed by you, Dan, which is accurate. I don't know who said that, though.
Dan LeBatard
That was Louis Fuentes.
Roy
Luis isn't here today.
Mike Ryan
I don't know if he's going fast enough for twerking. That is twerking posture. But the hips are not firing the way that you'd like. He's. He might just be throwing.
Tony
Maybe he's booty dancing. Is there a difference?
Jessica
We have the perfect group to break this down.
Stassi Schroeder
I think he's trying to cross country ski.
Mike Ryan
Hey, Roy, buddy.
Oregon Quarterback Coach
Yo.
Mike Ryan
You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet?
Oregon Quarterback Coach
Oh, absolutely.
Mike Ryan
Mike. Yeah? You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo.
Roy
Oh, delicious.
Mike Ryan
It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal. It's when small talk turns into stories. Cuervo man. It's that high five. A random stranger effect. That's right. The game is popping. You're hugging people you never met before. That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings. It's so smooth, so delicious. That's the Cuervo effect. Keep it Cuervo
Tony
Man.
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Jaden McDaniels
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Mike Ryan
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Stassi Schroeder
Stewgats Women stay home in the kitchen where they belong.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
Dan LeBatard
There was some funny video that emerged from the Virginia Tech game that we have not gotten to this week and I say funny.
Zaz
Well, not funny in the moment.
Stassi Schroeder
This is Actually, exactly what I wanted to talk about. Dan Can't. Is this a funny video? Because as soon as this video was on the Internet, it is of a guy skydiving into the stadium at the Virginia Tech.
Roy
Parachuting.
Stassi Schroeder
Parachuting.
Mike Ryan
I don't know.
Stassi Schroeder
Yeah, I guess parachuting. James Franklin's first. First game as the head coach. It's a spring game. People were like, oh, this is. This is hilarious. This is a great indication of what. How this is going to go for James Franklin and Virginia Tech. And I was like, is this guy okay? This looks horrifying. So then, thankfully, he was on CBS News the next day, and he is okay. He hurt his shoulder pretty badly, but he said that right as they were going down in the parachute, there was this big gust of wind, and it started putting him straight at the people in the stand. So he decided instead of landing on top of a bunch of people, he's obviously supposed to land, like, in the middle of the field. Instead of landing on top of all the people, he tried to steer onto the practice field next to the stadium. But then another gust of wind came and he smashed into the video board and had to get rescued. And the rescue people didn't come for another 12 minutes or so while he's just dangling there with his shoulder all jacked up. So I don't know. It was kind of scary.
Tony
Once you're okay.
Dan LeBatard
It's funny for the audience.
Stassi Schroeder
That's kind of what I'm asking.
Dan LeBatard
For the audio audience. He landed on top of the Jumbotron, but really crashed into the top of the Jumbotron and then just stayed there, sort of straddling it on his stomach as the American flag draped down the side of the Jumbotron. And it could have been an unmitigated disaster. He was very fortunate to only hurt his shoulder.
Stassi Schroeder
That's what I'm saying. He crashed into the video board while trying to be a hero and not crash into a group of, like, 20 people in the stand. So really, we should make him the head coach of.
Jessica
He should probably be honored at halftime.
Mike Ryan
Right.
Jessica
Like, of the first game, just as a hero for not destroying half the student body.
Stassi Schroeder
Yeah, maybe.
Dan LeBatard
It reminds me of a Marlins home opener. One time a Navy SEAL jumped out out of a. What are you doing? Reacting to the video. A Navy SEAL jumped out of an airplane while wearing the Billy the Marlin mascot outfit. And as he jumped off, the head came off. And so in a nearby neighborhood where kids were playing, you know, frisbeeing in from attic. Yeah.
Roy
Right.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, can you imagine? Like it was.
Mike Ryan
Could impale somebody.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Billy the Marlin's head. And so I thought it was funny, and I went to go interview the Navy seal. Still did not find it funny. Found nothing funny about that. Taking it.
Tony
That would be one way to go. Being impaled by a flying Billy the Marlin head.
Mike Ryan
Did they ever find the mascot head?
Dan LeBatard
Yes, I went and found it.
Mike Ryan
You found it?
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
Mike Ryan
Where was it?
Dan LeBatard
It was on the side of the turnpike, near where some things would have been placed.
Zaz
Where do you keep it now?
Dan LeBatard
I went looking back for.
Jessica
It should be in the hall of Fame.
Dan LeBatard
It's in an area where people found it. Yes.
Stassi Schroeder
You know, that's a fun game. What's the most dangerous mascot head? Just the head. I am.
Tony
Oh, I like that.
Stassi Schroeder
This. I am an Oregon Duck truther in that I believe the Oregon Duck has purposely lost its head in the last year to go viral. And if it happens again this year, I'll be the first one.
Jessica
This is Zion Williams shoe scenario, where it, like, it seems like a bad thing, but really it's a good thing. Zion Williamson, when he. When the Nike shoe exploded and Chris said it was a good thing for
Stassi Schroeder
Nike, thought he said Zion Williams.
Dan LeBatard
He did.
Roy
No, that is.
Dan LeBatard
That is.
Stassi Schroeder
Thank you, Dan. I was. For a second, I was like, damn,
Mike Ryan
I feel like down.
Dan LeBatard
He did.
Mike Ryan
He did call Rocky's mascot.
Dan LeBatard
I don't know why you're attacking me. I'm just a good one. I'm sitting here verifying facts and just trying to keep up with the general nonsense that's happening on this show. Can you explain? Can you explain to me, Jessica, what it is that happened with the Cleveland Cavaliers and a playoff marketing motto? I don't know this story.
Stassi Schroeder
Yes. Okay, so they deleted the post because I saw this in the middle of the night, and I tried to go back this morning and find it, and it's gone. So maybe this was a fever dream. But this post said, be the asterisk, asterisk, C asterisk, asterisk, asterisk, asterisk, diff. So, like, be the effing diff. I don't know. Do you know this whole thing about the diff, Dan? I think we've talked about the diff before.
Dan LeBatard
It's short.
Stassi Schroeder
It's basically just. Just the diff. The difference.
Zaz
It's for those who can't count.
Dan LeBatard
It's short for the difference.
Tony
You gotta have the F there.
Stassi Schroeder
So they've been doing this dif thing, but then they posted this tweet that was like, be the C Diff. I don't know. Do you know what C Diff is, Dan?
Dan LeBatard
I don't.
Roy
It's like some sort of diarrhea, right?
Mike Ryan
Really?
Stassi Schroeder
C Diff is called. It's Clostridiodes difficile. It's a bacterium that causes an infection of the colon, the longest part of the large intestine. Symptoms can range from diarrhea to life threatening damage to the colon. The bacterium is often called C Diff. So they posted be the C Diff on their Twitter and then deleted it after a bunch of people were like, yucky. And now it's gone. So maybe it was all a fever dream after all.
Dan LeBatard
Why are you looking that way, Zaz?
Zaz
Because that's not what they posted. Like, like it's not at all what they.
Tony
I get what they're doing. They're trying to bleep the F word. But you gotta have the F there. You gotta give me the F. That's right. If I have the F there, I know exactly what they're saying.
Roy
Yeah, but it's not the Friedland Cavaliers, it's the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Jessica
Yeah, but make the FC and make the F kind of tiny just so that we can. The starting point, make it the size of that asterisk.
Tony
Right.
Jessica
And then you get the big C that's there and we understand at least what's going on. But otherwise, be the diarrhea.
Stassi Schroeder
Be the Carrie Underwood diff.
Dan LeBatard
Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, the echoes with Michael Jr. Not, not, not an echo check.
Mike Ryan
What do you have Jeremiah Love going?
Stassi Schroeder
I think the. Probably the commanders. I don't know.
Mike Ryan
A lot of smoke around that. Number three overall pick.
Stassi Schroeder
Yeah, but is it like the Cardinals actually want to take him or is it like the Cardinals are like, we want to take him? Someone should trade up just in case.
Zaz
Tough to tell.
Dan LeBatard
Jessica, you are now a savvy veteran of this game, but when Mike Ryan asks you an important, important question, like where he. Where he's going, you can't have the commanders with a question mark and say, I don't know. You have to have a forceful opinion stronger than everyone else's.
Jaden McDaniels
On.
Dan LeBatard
On it.
Stassi Schroeder
What I was going to say, but I couldn't think of the word, was the floor is the commanders. I think the ceiling is still number three, whoever that team may be. But then I was about to say the ceiling is the commanders, and then that wouldn't have made sense. And then here we are talking about North Carolina basketball again. The ceiling is the Roof. Have you guys seen this FIU story, by the way, before I go?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, the pit one or something.
Stassi Schroeder
Yeah, the Pit. The
Mike Ryan
what?
Dan LeBatard
Oh, boy.
Roy
Oh, there's one. A girl from FIU got arrested for saying Netanyahu blow up the school. I thought that's what you guys were talking about.
Mike Ryan
I'd like to hear about.
Roy
Nobody heard.
Mike Ryan
Nobody's heard of that story. Nobody's heard of that story?
Roy
No. All right, you guys aren't watching, man.
Stassi Schroeder
I was definitely talking about the Pitbull one.
Roy
Oh, that's old news,
Mike Ryan
Dan.
Roy
Then you watch local news. You're on mute. You're watching on mute.
Dan LeBatard
I'm just laughing at the fact that that just happened. Just that all of that just happened is what I'm laughing about. That you came in so confidently knowing the story that she was talking about and it was pretty close to the opposite of the story you were talking about. I don't know if it's a direct opposite, but what is it that you want us to know about the way that Pitbull is feuding with fiu?
Stassi Schroeder
Oh, I thought you were gonna ask Tony to go first.
Mike Ryan
I can confirm that this is an actual story and that now it is being alleged that FIU is a couple weeks away from a nuclear weapon from.
Roy
From Channel 7. FIU student arrested for wanting Israel's Netanyahu to drop bombs on school event in arena that happened a couple days ago. Tough.
Mike Ryan
Look, it's a good arrest. Thank you.
Dan Levatar
Agreed.
Mike Ryan
Law enforcement.
Stassi Schroeder
So I follow this guy David, who has this newsletter called FOIA Ball and FOIA Ball. He does all these FOIA requests at different public universities regarding athletics. And it's really interesting, people should check it out. But he did a story that was a week, a couple, maybe like a month ago actually now because a lot has happened since about how Pitbull has not fulfilled the obligations of his FIU stadium deal. And it's been now kind of it's picked up some traction among like FIU fans and some like FIU blogs. Was reading it in one of the, I think like Panther now blog the other night. And what he's saying is that when Pitbull signed, we talked about it on the show, I think in 2024. And this is where I miss Billy so much because he probably has the inside scoop on this, but Pitbull had this big stadium naming rights deal where he's going to give money to FIU for the stadium and then in conjunction with that, he would write an FIU anthem and post about FIU and So in the. This blog post, David, the FOIA ball guy, was saying that he hasn't fulfilled many of the things in his contract that they said he was going to do when he signed this contract. And in response, FIU posted a long statement about it with a little pit bull and FIU logo at the top. And then they had a pit bull dinner with the president of FIU and posted like a million pictures of it online to be like, see, everything's good here. And it's very, very silly. But still no anthem, which I think is notable.
Dan LeBatard
I have a couple of follow up questions put on the poll. Please do you follow this guy, David? And also I want to just know the name of that Twitter account again.
Stassi Schroeder
Foiaball.
Dan LeBatard
And so that's a fireball pun.
Stassi Schroeder
Like, is he doing no Freedom of Information Act. You're a journalist, Dan.
Zaz
I would have guessed fireball pun.
Dan LeBatard
Say, Drew Ski, see you later.
Stassi Schroeder
It's a good pun. I actually.
Dan LeBatard
Well, I thought, I thought that it was tied to the pit bull story. I thought it was a funny. I thought it was a funny.
Stassi Schroeder
Just a pitbull blogger. Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
Thank you, Jessica. Appreciate the time. Again, check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes with Mike Golick Jr. What are you making faces about?
Roy
To be fair, that story was like a month old. Obviously, us being here in FIU country and panther world, we knew that yours
Dan LeBatard
was more recent, so.
Roy
Mine was. Mine was from a couple days ago. From three days ago.
Dan LeBatard
A little newsier.
Roy
A little newsier. It was on Chann 7 was all over the local news. I figure local newsmen like you guys would know, Roy, you're always on the local news beat. You and dorky and you don't. You don't hear nothing about fiu, huh?
Mike Ryan
He's just looking for allies. Dorothy Boyd, folks.
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Stassi Schroeder
Shirt if I may say for a second, Miami, they were simulating the snap count the entire game and they were clapping at the line of scrimmage. And the only thing I want to see clapping are them cheeks on Mrs. Met in my face. Mac shirt. All right, so that's one thing.
Mike Ryan
Stugats.
Stassi Schroeder
They're a bunch of cheaters, Dan. And you know who should be cheating? Mrs. Met on Mr. Met. And he can watch if he wants.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan lebatar show with the Stugats.
Dan LeBatard
She mentioned Oregon and we were talking about the Oregon's quarter. The quarterback coach at Oregon has some unique things to say.
Tony
This is my new favorite coach. He was talking about what he does when he's looking for a quarterback since he is the quarterback coach and recruiter. And I want to play this sound here and then we can react. But I just love this guy's strategy when recruiting quarterbacks.
Oregon Quarterback Coach
Like I asked him a question like this all the time. Hey, do you like chocolate ice cream or vanilla ice cream? Okay. The minute a kid pauses, I don't really want that kid.
Mike Ryan
Right?
Oregon Quarterback Coach
Because you need to have some type of conviction Right. Wrong or indifferent. So whether you like chocolate or you like vanilla, I don't. I don't really care. But if you sit there and say, ah, coach, I don't know, I want. Is it melted? Is it not? What's the brand? So on and so forth. Like, what is this kid gonna do on 33rd down in front of 110,000? He's probably gonna think about it more than he should. He's not gonna have conviction.
Tony
What if I say swirl? Because that's my right. That's actually what I believe. Full soft serve.
Zaz
I would fire him today.
Mike Ryan
Today.
Roy
That's why nobody wants you as a coach. You don't know what you're talking about.
Zaz
This guy's a.
Roy
How's he a more. And he's talking absolute truth right there.
Zaz
You're. You're not allowed to think about something for a second. Chocolate or vanilla, you're out of here. Fire this guy.
Dan LeBatard
That'll get you sacked. That extra second will get you. Thank you, Dan. That second is the difference between releasing the ball for a touchdown and fumble going the other way.
Zaz
It's not the same. You know what you're supposed to do on the play. Somebody asks you, what do you want to eat? Give me half a second to think about it.
Tony
Swirl.
Roy
The edge is coming around. You don't have half a second.
Mike Ryan
Also, I've seen Dylan Raiola play. He's got thoughts on ice cream.
Zaz
When I'm choosing what I want to eat, you can give me half a second. All right.
Mike Ryan
Whatever Patrick Mahomes likes.
Roy
Good answer.
Dan LeBatard
I do think though that when it comes to that sport, just. This is obviously a generalization. But. But the coaches do prefer the non thinkers to the thinkers.
Mike Ryan
Just as a general rule, 100% offensive coordinators want someone to just execute their offense. They don't really unless you're elite and can get them big time jobs because they can just ride your talent. They would much rather have. It's why Jon Gruden had like 17 quarterbacks that were all like Bruce Gradkowski and Chris Simms in Tampa. He just wanted people to execute his offense.
Dan LeBatard
I would say it goes a step further than that though. Generally speaking, again, it's just. It's not just non thinkers on the field. They also want guys who aren't thinking about too much stuff that's interesting to them. Unlike that woke away from the field.
Zaz
But it's the only sport like that. It's such meat meathead nonsense. Basketball's not like that. Hockey, baseball's not like that.
Tony
So he just wants a quick answer here. I'm going back to this guy and that question. If I. Very quickly, like, I don't like ice cream. He's good with that. It's just a quick answer. I can't have any thought time in between the question and the answer.
Dan LeBatard
Zazzle, you seem pissed off about.
Zaz
Yeah, because it. Because it's dumb. And, like, I don't want dumb people working for me. Like, if he really believes that, then, like, it's just, I. I don't. I don't want to be around dumb people.
Tony
I do love the idea of it just being like, you. Walk in, sit down.
Jaden McDaniels
Hey, nice.
Tony
Oh, your parents. Nice to meet you. All right, sit down. Chocolate or vanilla ice cream? And then based off that, he, like, gets up, she's like, all right, I've seen enough.
Zaz
That's what I'm saying.
Jessica
Also depends on the day. Does it not? Like I'm.
Tony
I like. See, that's my point. You can have that opinion, but you just gotta be quick with it.
Dan LeBatard
Mike, do you believe. Speaking of quickness, because you and Tony are going to the races this weekend, do you think that FIU story will come up at Talladega? You think that Tony. Not the pit bull one. Not the pit bull one. Do you think that you and Tony will be talking about the recent development at FIU at Talladega?
Mike Ryan
No, not whatsoever. I don't think Geopolitics is gonna come up in Talladega. It's the biggest party on the NASCAR circuit. Dan, did you know that you could fit the entire state of Vermont inside of Talladega's infield?
Roy
Wow.
Mike Ryan
This applies to Delaware as well, not both states. You gotta pick one. But you could fit either inside. Yes. Dude, it's massive. It's huge.
Dan LeBatard
Holy shit.
Mike Ryan
It's huge. Let's get into Gearhead, folks. Gearhead is presented by nascar. Our fine partners over there gonna be taking care of us over at Talladega. Tune in to the NASCAR Cup Series at Talladega this Sunday, April 26th at 3pm Eastern on Fox. Guys, Tyler Redick, he's got a winning record. This guy is destroying the Cup Series right now. And unfortunately for our favorite driver, Denny Hamlin, bad luck strikes again. It was at Kansas Motor Speedway. Denny Hamlin always dominates at this track, and nobody has worse luck than Denny Hamlin. Ware spins out, creates a caution. We get an overtime restart, which was thrilling. I don't know what it is about this track, Dan. Every finish at Kansas seems to be legendary. But now we turn our Attention to Talladega. Will Michael Jordan be there? Tyler Reddick is fantastic, fantastic at super speedways. But one of the storylines going into this is Denny Hamlin. Firstly, you guys know Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. He was, he's a co owner with, with Denny Hamlin who races for Joe Gibbs Racing but owns this team with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan very happy Tyler Redick won. You would think Denny Hamlin would have some joy over this, but no. This video came from the Raider over at Kansas. Look at this. Number one. Look at the size of those ham hooks.
Tony
Jordan putting his hand around Hamlin's neck, joking as he walks by.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, that's Andre the Giant Bob Euchre type. You realize Michael Jordan of the Chicago, Chicago Bulls very big compared to like a Denny Hamlin type. So Denny Hamlin doesn't like that. Not happy with that. And on his podcast, which has gotten Denny in trouble numerous times on his podcast he said he was talking that shit to Michael Jordan saying that I'm gonna win this race provided nothing crazy happens. So that was Michael Jordan of the Chicago Bulls taunting Denny Hamlin and Denny Hamlin not having it.
Dan LeBatard
Well, let's talk about a couple of things here very quickly. One, the size of Michael Jordan's hand. Do you realize that what Mike Ryan just said that with one hand and it looks like Michael Jordan can get a single hand around the entire neck of Denny Hamlin front and back. It feels like he can. His hand is big enough to palm the skull of Denny Hamlin easily like the entirety of his head. Yes, that's one thing. But when you said Denny Hamlin is unlucky. For those of you who do not know, while searching the home of his parents that had burned down, claimed his father, tragically claimed his father and injured his mother, he himself got injured while roaming around that house. And on top of that, he has been wildly unlucky when it comes to the results where you're not even looking at it and saying this doesn't have anything to do with his skill. This is not about choking. This is just, it's clearly this man is. It feels a little bit cursed.
Mike Ryan
Yes, he does feel cursed. He's the Buffalo Bills in sports. While he is one of the most historic accomplished drivers in the history of motorsports, he hasn't won a Cup series. And just last year a horrific mistake on the pit cost him the Cup Series championship in a race that he was dominating. But right now Denny Hamlin is in a full on beef with Kyle Busch, another legendary driver that's kind of fallen on hard times, hasn't won a race in a very long time. Denny Hamlin's podcast, which is a must listen if you're at all curious about motorsports because he is uncommonly honest and gets himself in way too much trouble because he just answers questions about the sport and other teams, other drivers don't like it. He basically was asked, why is Kyle Busch struggling so much? And he's like, well, Kyle just can't get speed out of these next gen cars.
Roy
Cars.
Mike Ryan
He's talking that shit to Kyle Busch. Kyle Busch went on Sean Hannity's podcast. It's a thing that happens. Maybe they talked about Netanyahu some there. All right. And he's like, look, I don't know why this guy's talking about me. He's calling me washed. You have to keep in mind he took over for me at Joe Gibbs Racing. I was the number one at Joe Gibbs Racing. The reason why Denny Hamlin's having all this success is because I left and he's threatening revenge. So Talladega probably gonna be spicy. This is a super speedway. Cars are going at 190 miles per hour. Wait till you see the bank on this track. It's massive. You have no idea what you're in for. And it's a great party, but it's gonna be a random race. Super speedway racing. You're always flirting with the big one. Tune in on Fox.
Roy
So the middle of the infield is Vermont.
Mike Ryan
Yes, it's a.
Roy
So you can't walk from one side
Zaz
to the other side?
Mike Ryan
No, you need to take the trams. You can fit like 14 college football stadiums inside of it. It is just huge. Like you have no idea what you're getting into.
Dan LeBatard
Delaware, Rhode island, walking it.
Mike Ryan
I hate those places.
Dan LeBatard
Not both of them. We mentioned this earlier in the show and I just wanted to mention it again because Pablo Torre continues to do fantastic things. Bored by his own awards. Here is Alex Jones going after Pablo Torre story.
Alex Jones
They haven't even had a court hearing. He's on podcasts announcing he is now the owner and they're now in control of the studios.
Tony
Where are they?
Roy
I don't.
Alex Jones
If you go to the X feed, you just type in Al shows on you. It shows the feed and he's in a podcast. Today, the same Ben Collins is on a podcast and it's all over the news, New York Times, Newsweek, everywhere, cnn. Saying that he now owns Infowars and now is in control of these studios. Where I sit, this is what the left do. They try to silence you. Then they misrepresent who you are. They're body snatchers. They're skin walkers. They literally take your skin. This is going to backfire big time, folks.
Dan LeBatard
The last 10 seconds. Alex Jones is shirtless for some reason.
Mike Ryan
He looks decent.
Roy
Looks better than I thought.
Mike Ryan
Well, he started that supplement and that's the after. He's beautiful. I mean, I don't normally like to say that about men, but my goodness,
Torah Couture
this,
Dan LeBatard
That is visually amazing.
Mike Ryan
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Episode: Hour 3: You See That FIU Story? (feat. Jessica Smetana)
Date: April 21, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This lively hour of the show blends sports talk, local Miami stories, college football drama, and trademark panel banter. Dan Le Batard, Stugotz and crew (with Jessica Smetana guesting) jump from NBA playoffs to FIU scandals, viral mascot mishaps, and even the size of Michael Jordan’s hands—delivering insights, jokes, and offbeat conversations anchored in South Florida sports and pop culture.
Minnesota’s Surprising Success:
The crew recapped the Timberwolves’ win over Denver, praising their gritty play and Anthony Edwards’ athleticism, comparing him to Dwyane Wade as a shot blocker ([02:08]-[05:19]).
Edwards’ Press Conference Swagger:
His honest, cursing-laden media appearances spark laughs and highlight his authenticity:
'Face of the League' Debate:
A spirited conversation about what makes someone not just a superstar but an actual “face of the league.” The nuances between charisma (Edwards, Wemby) and success (Jokic)—with a side-tangent about Jokic’s mysterious indifference ([06:02]-[08:40]).
Virginia Tech Parachute Fail:
Deep dive into a harrowing (but ultimately safe) spring game incident where a parachutist crashed into the jumbotron.
Dangerous Mascot Heads:
Tales of mascot heads gone rogue, including a flying Billy the Marlin head.
Roy interrupts, referencing a recent story of a student arrested for threatening remarks about Netanyahu and FIU ([25:44]-[25:53]; [26:38]-[27:01]).
The mix-up over which FIU story listeners are expected to know becomes a running joke.
Recruiting Philosophy:
The QB coach at Oregon claims that a recruit’s conviction (how fast he picks chocolate or vanilla ice cream) is a predictor of quarterbacking success.
The crew has fun debating the absurdity of this, questioning if football uniquely prefers “non-thinkers” ([33:21]-[34:56]).
On Anthony Edwards’ style:
"I really don't think that there's another superstar in sports that cusses that much in press conference." — Dan Le Batard ([05:36])
On Jokic as NBA face:
"He's a loaf of bread of the league." — Dan Le Batard ([06:29])
On mascot danger:
"Can you imagine?... could impale somebody. Billy the Marlin's head." — Dan Le Batard ([21:16])
On accidental PR disasters:
"They posted be the C Diff on their Twitter and then deleted it after a bunch of people were like, yucky." — Jessica Smetana ([23:34])
On Oregon QB coach’s logic:
"Chocolate or vanilla? If you sit there and say, ah, coach, I don't know...what is this kid gonna do on 33rd down?" — Oregon QB Coach ([32:39])
On Michael Jordan's hands:
"His hand is big enough to palm the skull of Denny Hamlin..." — Mike Ryan ([38:19])
As always, the hour maintains the show’s irreverent, rapid-fire style—mixing genuine sports insight with local color, meta in-jokes, and conversational tangents. Much of the magic comes from the overlapping personalities: Dan’s disbelief, Mike’s passion, Jessica’s nuanced sports references, and Roy/Tony’s zingers all firing off with little filter.