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Indiana Fever’s Syd Colson Talks Getting To Know Caitlin Clark, ACL Injuries, Brand Identity & More!
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Sidney Colson
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Raz Gold
Hey, what's up y'?
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Sidney Colson
All?
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Raz Gold
Welcome to Goodfellow show presented by DraftKings. I'm Raz Gold onbwode and I am coming to you from our our studio in Los Angeles. And we have a very special episode for you this week. We have an exclusive interview with a two time WNBA champion, also a two time Commissioner's cup champion. She's won a championship at the collegiate level and NCAA champion with Texas A and M. She's a comedian. She's the face of the league or one of them. She's my girl. Sid Colson. What's up Sid? What's going on?
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Sidney Colson
What's up Ross? Always good to talk to you. Thank you for having me.
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Raz Gold
You know, I think there's so many things to, to talk about. I mean, including the acl. But let's start first with just the special season you guys have had with the Indiana Fever this year. I think it can be summed up by your end of season Instagram post. Let's, let's take a look at this post from you, Sid. And in the, in the caption you said genuinely enjoyed this team and what we did on the court and in the showers. You're so silly. I knew in the off season that God was placing me where I needed to be to grow and learn some necessary lessons. And that's exactly what happened. And that's a beautiful post. And actually the comments have me rolling. Let's just look at the comments. Remind her because I'm screaming because your teammates, your teammates are a mess. Not, not Caitlin Clark chiming in twice. She says, sid, I'm thankful for your aunt Sid. Auntie Tasha Howard with four hearts. But look at Lexi Hull. Love you, Sid. Showering just won't be the same this off season. Yo, y' all are really comedy, but, I mean, so just to throw it back to you, there's clearly so much love for your team. Is a huge free agency on the way? This roster may not ever look the same again. So for you, like, what made this team so special and one to remember in your career.
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Sidney Colson
You know, in the off season, it was obviously, like, a tough decision for me. I've been with the Aces for so long, and we did some amazing things together as a team. And like I said in the post, I could just feel, you know, God, you know, when you could just feel like something's. You need to get uncomfortable, like you're being pushed in a direction, and because it makes you uncomfortable, kind of don't want to do it. I think the. The older I've gotten, the stronger my faith has gotten. I kind of. I run to the uncomfortable, honestly, because I know on the other side, there's going to be something, some lesson that I needed, and that was what happened this season. Like, nobody was expecting me to be on this team, honestly. We know what the views are of this organization from the outside, but I knew enough people in it to know that we could do something special and that we could potentially change some minds and some views, and it was good. Like, just being with another team, being in another locker room. I think when you leave from a situation you've been in for so long, you're like, am I going to be cool with as cool with a new group of teammates? But that's just what life is. You figure it out, you get a new environment, and you adjust and you get acclimated. And we did something really special for us to have been together for just a matter of months and not fully healthy, everybody at the same time. So it was fun. It was really fun. And I think the Commissioners Cup Championship gave us, like, even more confidence that we could go on and win a championship, and I think we would have had we stayed healthy.
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Raz Gold
Yeah. You know, people pointed to your voice as one in the locker room that everyone listened to, that you were one of the main leaders for the team. You know, people trusted you taking on that role. What was it like trying to overcome some of the hurdles? And was there a hurdle this season that was that you guys, like, that rocked y', all, like, almost was so tough to really stay together from?
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Sidney Colson
Yeah, I mean, like. I mean, from the outside, I think everybody can See the different types of adversity that hit our team. And I don't know, we just found a way. We got a lot of personalities on our team and there's a lot of joking around. So when hard times were in, we were just like making jokes, laughing, because honestly, some stuff was just, what can you do? What can you say about some stuff? You just gotta get closer together. And I think we did that. I think it showed in our play and the environment was, was positive. It's just we got plagued with injuries, but even the injured players, like, we still tried to make it a point to be around for practices, to still be lending our voices, to give whatever advice and wisdom we could, even though, like, we weren't able bodied, you know?
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Raz Gold
Yeah, it seemed like humor was therapy for you guys. What, what was it like? Honestly, when you tore your acl wrapping your head around that one?
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Sidney Colson
That was, that was just nuts. I think once I was falling down, I was like looking at my knee, like I felt something, but I was also seeing it. And immediately I reverted back to college when I toured and I was like, this is it, this isn't good. But, you know, was trying to stay positive. But in your mind, like, you know what it is when something, when a bad injury happens, especially if you've had it before. But shoot, like, everybody was joking. Phoenix cursed our team. Just the place, the city of Phoenix. We lost four bodies, I think, to Phoenix. And it was just something that we could laugh about. I mean, we even lost the staff members. Like, what, when did that happen? You know what I'm saying? But it was just one of those things. You just once again use humor to keep it pushing and still try to be there for the team as best you can.
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Raz Gold
Yeah. I mean, you are so silly because you actually went live on your ACL surgery or coming out of it. What inspired you to do that?
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Sidney Colson
Girl, low key. I really wanted me and TB to do an episode of our pod coming out of reverse. They were like, yeah, the drugs will have worn off by the time you get home, so you probably can't do that. I was like, all right, well, I'll just, I'll go live.
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Raz Gold
And I loved seeing you and Caitlin Clark's relationship. You know, you guys are always cracking jokes on social media, on your life. And obviously she's a game change. She's a game changing player for the league. So, like, what has it been like, you know, getting to know her, her humor and, and seeing firsthand all that's coming her way?
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Sidney Colson
It was, it was Cool being being on a team with her, getting to see her in another light was really cool. I think over the course of her career, I think, you know, we haven't had many instances where we've seen like Caitlyn Angel Paige, like players come in with the sort of notoriety that they had, the sort of money that they're making, the attention, everything. It's a lot for a young person to be dealing with on top of pressure to do well as a basketball player, to lead your teams, all of that. So it was, it was good to be able to see like a lighter side of her. You know, I think especially unfortunately when she was injured, you're having to adjust your mindset, you're having to get mentally tougher because I think she had like a bad injury before. So now you're having to watch your team from the outside is still, you know, I would be talking to her a lot about, you know, make sure you're still being vocal. You know, you don't want to lose this time with your teammates. And because you're, you're injured or sidelined, you're not still using the opportunity to lead or to grow relationships. Don't let it be a wasted season just because you can't physically contribute. And I think her desire to become a better leader and you know, to come back because there were times where maybe, you know, she thought she was coming back and then it wouldn't happen and, or another little thing will happen that turned into a big thing. But to see her, her fun side, I think that was the most important part. To see her being jovial and light hearted and having fun with her teammates, I don't think was like a side that people saw a lot last season. And so I would just be telling her more of that.
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Raz Gold
I'm glad she had know a veteran like you to be in her ear and as I said, like every player on that team kept pointing to you as a voice that people listen to. But my question is how did, how did Stephanie White prepare you guys to keep new players were coming into the system and you kept having success. Like I don't even know where that happens.
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Sidney Colson
The importance was that Steph and our and our assistants were able to get new players on the same page with us quickly and have them buy in quickly to we're going to play defense hard, we're going to share the ball and we're going to play as a team. And I think most teams that have a coach that demands that out of them, like you, you find success at Some level.
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Raz Gold
Yeah. I got one last for you about the fever here, and I think it's just. You have to finish with Kelsey Mitchell. What's most important to you about the season? Kelsey Mitchell had literally playing until her wheels fell off.
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Sidney Colson
I've been so impressed with Kelsey from, like, afar. And then when I got to play with her at athletes, like in Athletes Unlimited, when we were teammates there, I would. I would just, like, shoot with her before and after, like, practices. If we were on the same team that week, once I got here doing the same thing, like, shoot, we'll have shoot around. She'll stay after to get shots up with Karima. And I would always make sure to just tag along with her because I was just. I've always been impressed by her work ethic. And this girl just. She plays hard on both ends. There have been so many seasons where she hasn't gotten the respect or the recognition that I think was owed to her. What she did this year was extremely impressive to me because this girl deals with double double teams. She was already impressive last year, but found a way to do even more this year. And I just. I look at her like, what is it that you're going to do next season? Like, what. How are you gonna. I don't know. How do you elevate from here? But I know she found a way this year to become even more focused defensively, and I don't think that got enough credit. Like, people don't. They don't attack Kelsey on the defensive end like she's gonna hold her own even when it's bigger matchups. And I don't know, I'm just. I'm constantly impressed by her. The player she is and the person she is. She's. She's just a solid individual.
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Raz Gold
I don't think it's, it's as well known that you know your path here is hard. You've had to overcome quite a bit, you know, to get where you're at. And there's been a lot of starts and stops or reinventions of yourself, if you will. I'm just gonna point it out for those watching at home. You know you tore your ACL your sophomore year in college. You make it to the wnba. You know you're waived by the Connecticut sun your rookie season, then you spend three years overseas. You're out the league for three years and then, then you returned to the wnba. Little bouncing around, but you stuck a bit with the San Antonio Stars for three years. Then after that stint, you were out of the WNBA again in 2021. You played athletes Unlimited, which you said was helpful. And then after that you joined the Aces and win championships with them in 2022, 2023, and now you're with the Fever, which was a big decision, an uncomfortable decision to go try a new chapter there. It's a very interesting season with highs and lows and it ends for you with a torn acl. So my question is, how have you had so much endurance through your career.
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Sidney Colson
You know, as competitors in basketball? Like, we just want to play. Like if we see people playing that we played against and we battle, we're just like, oh well, I mean if they still playing, like for sure I can play. I just need the right opportunity. And it really, it kept being pretty much my whole career was just need the right opportunity, right opportunity. And you know, sometimes it would work playing time wise, sometimes it wouldn't. But I know every place that I was In I was supposed to be there. I think my faith helped me understand that I was in every situation that I was in for a reason. Whether I played or not, There was something to gain from that team experience. There was something to gain from someone I met, something. Something I lost. Whatever it was, there was a lesson in a lot of the stuff, and it helped me to keep. Keep my drive very high. Even when I was out of the league. There were definitely times where it was tough, like, being out of it, but I still. I still had that passion even when it wasn't logical anymore. It's like, all right, you could probably call it quits around this time. And that's how I felt in 2019. When I was overseas in Poland, I was like, yeah, I'm about ready to wrap this up. I'm tired of dealing with these crazy coaches overseas. Like, I'm not making enough money for this. That 2019 season, I get to the Aces and me and Chris Umagi, the social media person with the Aces, who. He's always done a phenomenal job, but he started capturing me doing the Lady Aces chant. So this was when I started getting more of a following on social media because people were. They were seeing that, thought that that was fun, yada yada. Then I go to Chicago and I get cut after the bubble season. So 2021, I'm not playing, but Athletes Unlimited starts, and that's in Vegas. Oddly enough, I have a good year, a good first year in AU. The ACEs staff, like, Becky would be there. Nikki was there. They offered me a training camp contract. This was the first year that Becky was going to be there, and they were saying that they were looking for, you know, a veteran and somebody for the locker room to impact culture. And I go there. We win two years, we don't win in 24. I leave to come to the Fever. And, you know, obviously, we know how this season went, but everything was in its timing. Like, in hindsight, I understand everything clearly.
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Raz Gold
Yeah. I mean, so much of that story is like, look how maybe one closed door pivoted you to the next blessing and opportunity. You know what I'm saying? You look back on that and you think about where it placed you. Now, girl, you literally are one of the faces of the league, but you can't. But you, at one point, literally was out of it, and there was not really a path to that. So what a testimony. You've defied the norm. Like things that used to be reserved only for literally the superstars of the league. You are captivating you are funny. The way people are consuming the WNBA is changing and evolving. So now, my girl, you got commercials with TJ Maxx, Ally Deloitte, Kia DirecTV. You're doing commercials with Diana Taurasi, Brianna Stewart, Paige Beckers. Like, how have you found your lane to, to crack open and break through the zeitgeist and literally, like, it's not something funny. You are one of the faces of the league.
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Sidney Colson
I just, I'm just, I'm me everywhere I go. I think authenticity is going to always get you where you need to be, even if it's not what you picture. And a lot of mine just happens to be forward facing. But a lot of that can be attributed to like our, our showrunner, our director for the Sit In TP show, Carly. They came up with the idea for TP and I to be the faces of the league. And I remember when, when they pitched it to us, we were like, absolutely. Like, we love, we love self deprecating humor. We're totally okay with what our paths have looked like in the wnba because while I love basketball, it's not my everything. Like I, I'm a multifaceted person. So if basketball hasn't gone the way that I thought it would go, like, that's, that's okay. Like, I'm still, I've still been in a very blessed position and one that I'm very fortunate for a lot of minutes are not. Like, it's been a real treat to be in the W for this long. I can't say that I expected this. So to see that really turn into us being the faces of the league. I hope that it's inspiring to people to just bet on yourself and like, make yourself a brand. Like be authentic, stay true to it and like the people that are supposed to find you will find you.
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Raz Gold
Yeah. And I mean, so your show that you have with TP Teresa Plaisance Unsupervised. Let's play a little clip from that show real quick.
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Sidney Colson
Somebody under this video will inevitably say, damn, their voice is deep. Damn, the man. And the babysitters come after them. Like, I've seen comments where like, somebody's like, what's wrong with those women's voices? So at least they're acknowledging the fact that we're women. But then somebody's like, no, they made women.
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Raz Gold
I mean, when you put yourself out there, you also put yourself out there to haters. So how do you handle that aspect of it?
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Sidney Colson
Oh, man, I used to just troll them back because like, there's nothing that you can say about me that'll hurt my feelings. Like, I literally do not know you. And some of the responses are bots. You know, for me to get my feelings hurt about people, I gotta respect you. I gotta value your opinion. A lot of things go into it. So, like you being a stranger, I could care less about you talking about how many points I scored minutes. I don't care.
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Raz Gold
No, they'll see you and ask for a picture, you know. But you haven't shied away from it at WNBA all Star in Indianapolis. I know a goal of yours is to be a comedian. And you did it.
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Raz Gold
You put yourself out there. You did a standup routine. So now that it's done. Cause you were super mysterious about it before. So now that it's done, like, what was it like to do? Stand up and prepare for it and execute it.
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Sidney Colson
Man, it was good. I will say, like, I wish I had given more time and preparation to it. Like, I had an idea and I didn't start like nearly as soon as I should have to really just like have it all memorized. But it was just good practice. It had been over two years since I'd done stand up. So when this opportunity presented itself, my girlfriend was like, you got to do it so that you hold yourself accountable to get back to practicing. And now that the off season is here and like a couple people have asked me, so like, yeah, I definitely have to go somewhere here and perform and get back into a rhythm so that I can, you know, become like a. I don't want to say respected, but just somebody who's doing the work. Like you're constantly, constantly, you know, going to open mic nights or practicing your jokes. So I want to, I want to get to that point. And so that's my, that's my goal, you know, before the end of the year to do it at least twice.
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Raz Gold
You've also been a coach. You were an assistant coach at Rice University. Like, did you enjoy that role? Could we ever see Coach Sid?
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Sidney Colson
So I enjoyed it so much. I think same for when I've played. I enjoy the relationship aspect of everything I do more than the, like, actual thing typically. So coaching was cool. It was fun. Like, playing basketball is cool and it's fun, but it's the people that I get to meet and interact with. And the way that, that human interaction, like, y' all can change one another's lives just by something you say, something you do. So it was more about that, me being able to impact young women. And so if I ever got back into it, it would be, you know, because I miss being able to do that. Honestly, as.
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Raz Gold
As we come to an end here, you mentioned Amadi, your Ahmadi Brooks, your. Your girlfriend. Is she also your official stylist? Because she's a well known fashion stylist. Okay. So, yes. How is she helping you put your style together and be ready to meet all of these different moments that we just described for you?
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Sidney Colson
She had a vision. She's like, look, if. If you're at the end of your career and you want to go into acting, like, people need to start seeing you in a different light visually. Like, they need to see you as a brand and see you, you know, we got to elevate your style. And if you look at my outfits from last year with the Aces and this year, it was such a big jump. And I think the recognition that she got, that I got, the people that were reaching out to send stuff, like, she did that in a matter of months, and it was super impressive what she shows me. I trust the vision. I let her get very creative with the things that we do. She knows that she can try stuff out. If it's masculine, feminine, like, I'll wear it all. Like, it's cool. Like, let's do it. And so I think she did a really good job of letting people see, like, me just wear different stuff. And, you know, hopefully they can see me doing that like, on screen, you know, so I'm very fortunate that, that I have her by my side.
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Raz Gold
Okay. And just words. How would you. What would you describe your style as?
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Sidney Colson
What would I describe my style as? I would say, like, versatile. I would say, like what? Like what? Hey, everybody. Ron said, hey, everybody. She said, hey, girl. Hey, like, versatile. And like, elevated street. Elevated street, street wear and like we get, we, we like make stuff colorful sometimes. Like, I like a lot of colors. So we'll be like outgoing. I think usually how she dress it reflects my personality a lot, I think.
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Raz Gold
Okay. Yeah. I'm gonna need you to also know your style that you needing all this help.
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Sidney Colson
Yeah, no, I don't know. None of them were. She said, I'm gonna need you to know yourself.
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Raz Gold
You're crushing it, my girl. It's really inspiring the journey that you've been on and we only see like the bright lights, but all that it took to get here and I appreciate just everything you gave us today.
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Sidney Colson
Thank you. I love you, my girl. Thank you for having me too.
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Raz Gold
Oh, it was great to catch up with Sid Colson of the Indiana Fever. That'll do it for this episode of Goodfellow. We'll catch you next time.
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