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Dominique
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Listener/Caller
This is sick.
Dominique
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Jeremy
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Dominique
Is there any other battery with powerboost ingredients inside?
Jeremy
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Dan Levitar
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Tony
I know everybody was so bummed that I was on vacation watching soccer because they wanted a recap of the first ever street race in San Diego. That's right. They race at a naval base. How America is that? But the real fireworks came after the race. Guys, are you familiar with Kevin Magnussen?
Jeremy
Yep.
Dan Levitar
Yes.
Tony
He sounds like a weightlifter, but he's a Formula one driver. That's his core discipline and he raced in this race. A lot of big names were. Jimmy Johnson was racing, believe it or not, the former coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, he was there, didn't do well. But Kevin Magnussen was there. And this was a great moment between American NASCAR fans. Like, all right, let's see what you can do. F1 guy. He actually pulled off a pretty fast lap. But Noah Gragson is a NASCAR driver and shades of Talladega Nights, the fight between Sacha Baron Cohen and Will Ferrell's character. Noah Gragson took issue with the European Formula 1 driver because of how he was driving on the track. And they had this testy exchange.
Zaslow
What's your problem?
Dominique
You guys come over here. You drive off in the corner
Zaslow
what's your problem?
Dominique
Wreck.
Zaslow
Why?
Mike Ryan
I was.
Listener/Caller
Get out of Noah.
Zaslow
I'm done with this.
Listener/Caller
Let's go.
Dominique
I'm done with this.
Dan Levitar
I'm done with it.
Tony
Noah backed down there a little bit once. Once. Kev was like, wait, are we really doing this?
Dominique
Yeah.
Dan Levitar
The guy on the left seemed like a dick in that spot. Like he's all up in his face, and all he's doing is repeating himself like, you know. You know, step up or get out of here.
Tony
I like Noah.
Dan Levitar
He.
Tony
He's been very good about cameo. Always get them to tell people to pay off their chugs. Big Noah guy. But, yeah, I think he kind of backed down there and do something.
Dan Levitar
Player.
Tony
This race was eventful. Everyone, look. SVG was a huge favorite in this race. Sam Van Gundy, Jimmy Johnson, former Cowboys coach, all in this race. Shane Van Ginsbergen is one of the greatest road course drivers ever, if not the greatest already. And I listen, I assumed he was going to win, but Austin Hill, who's now taking over for the recently tragically passed Kyle Busch, made a kind of a rookie mistake on the track and took out Connor Zillich and SVG2great2, the two favorites in that race. So it was a wide open race, and we get one of the most unlikely NASCAR winners of all time, Corey Heim, a name that many of you.
Dan Levitar
He's an actor.
Tony
Not Corey Haim, but it's spelled in a similar fashion. And Corey Haim won this race. You know where they filmed Top Gun? Zaz. They filmed it in San Diego. Do you know where Corey Heim went to celebrate in his full tracksuit after winning this race? To the famous bar from Top Gun.
Zaslow
Yeah.
Tony
Yeah. Show the image on the screen. This had to be a moment.
Dan Levitar
Nice.
Tony
Yeah.
Dan Levitar
So.
Tony
And by the way, svg, you got another road course here coming up, so I imagine. I think it's Sonoma. I imagine he's going to be all right and win another road course race, provided that there aren't any other idiots on the track. And for every lap, keep it fun. Keep it Cuervo. Thank you for presenting Gearhead.
Dan Levitar
Thank you, Cuervo. Guys, I gotta show you something. Dave, I don't know if you saw this yet, all right, but there's a video that has gone viral on Twitter. You know, sometimes videos go viral on Twitter, and there was a video that went viral. It's going viral on Twitter right now of this woman. She went hiking, and she's hiking with her dog. Looks like a German shepherd. I think I'm going To play the video for you here, and we can kind of all experience it together if you haven't seen it yet. And on this hike, she runs into a brown grizzly bear. Now, from what I understand before we hit play on the video, the black grizzly bears are a lot less dangerous, I believe, than the brown grizzly bear. Right. The one, like, correct me if I'm wrong here. The black one.
Tony
You're not even sure there is such a thing. But I keep cooking the black.
Dan Levitar
You play dead. You're. Yeah, you're supposed to, like, like, make yourself small and just kind of free.
Tony
But there isn't a black grizzly bear. You just mean black bears in general.
Dan Levitar
Oh, all right. Whatever, man.
Zaslow
Yeah, black grizzly.
Tony
The grizzly bear is famously brown.
Dan Levitar
Okay, fine. And. And the brown grizzly bear, man, you
Tony
know, there has to be some facts, all right? You just can't go unchecked.
Dan Levitar
Thank you.
Dominique
I mean, it just seems also, like, unnecessary distinctions. Like, we go to this. It's a woman, It's a bear, it's a dog.
Dan Levitar
Well, no, no.
Dominique
Let's get to this.
Dan Levitar
No, no, no. There's a major distinction. No, no.
Dominique
No unnecessary distinction for this conversation. And you're just really nailing. I let it slide a bunch of times. You're really nailing this black brown thing a lot unnecessarily. A bear's a bear.
Dan Levitar
I don't think that's true.
Dominique
Ask Romigal. They have different temperaments.
Dan Levitar
I don't think that's true.
Dominique
The white ones, no.
Zaslow
But Zazlow's. The white ones are actually, like, Ryan is right. At a black. If you say a brown grizzly bear, it's like saying a striped zebra. Right?
Dan Levitar
All right, fine, fine.
Zaslow
The.
Dan Levitar
The brown bear, though, you're. You're. You definitely are not supposed to run. And you're supposed to try and scare it. Right. But it'll mess you up. The grizzly bear. So, anyway, let's go to the video here. It's rather terrifying, this encounter. This woman and her dog. I think it's a German shepherd as a grizzly. A brown one. A grizzly bear comes up on them. Go ahead. Let's see.
Zaslow
No, go away.
Dan Levitar
She's trying to, like, scare it, you know, making weird voices. Bears getting closer and closer. Now it's kind of deciding what do they want to do. She's kind of doing what Ron said. Yeah. And now the bear is kind of creeping pretty close. And now the bear's really close.
Listener/Caller
Hey.
Dan Levitar
Hey.
Listener/Caller
Stop it.
Dan Levitar
And now it's on its hind legs, which is really scary.
Zaslow
Stop it.
Dominique
Not.
Listener/Caller
No.
Zaslow
Hey, hey.
Dan Levitar
That bear's really. It's. It's scary watching this, right?
Zaslow
Go and wait.
Dan Levitar
She's very brave.
Zaslow
Dad. Dad.
Dominique
Hey.
Listener/Caller
Stop.
Dominique
Enough.
Zaslow
Get, Get. Go, go.
Dan Levitar
And now the bear kind of retreats behind, like, a fence. And she's got enough room now between her and the bear, where now she makes, like, a run for it with the dog. And apparently she made it out safe. And, like, I don't know if all of you guys have seen that video yet, but, like, my toes. Coral, watch it. That video is intense. It's pretty scary.
Jeremy
This is why women choose the bear.
Dominique
Toast. Go you thing.
Dan Levitar
I wouldn't this be why the woman. Women don't choose the bear.
Dominique
You like bears, huh?
Tony
Okay, toes curled.
Dominique
I don't even want to admit what
Zaslow
I was just thinking I would have
Dominique
done in that spot. You were. You. You were doing. You were thinking the right thing. I hope, like, if it. If hits the fan there, you just got to let the dog go. No, not if the fan. That's the dog's job. That's why you're here. That's why you're here. It's showtime. Backup quarterback. The starter just went down.
Listener/Caller
Get in there.
Dominique
Take a snap.
Zaslow
You're just sacrificing your dog.
Dominique
I'm not sacrificing my dog. I'm allowing my dog to do what dogs are here to do. Die. Protect me, and save me. You think that I don't need a dog to be my friend?
Listener/Caller
I love you.
Dominique
We can be friends.
Jeremy
I will tell your story.
Dominique
It's.
Zaslow
It's like. It's.
Dan Levitar
I will make sure they remember you.
Dominique
It's like you are the superstar athlete. You have a crew of friends. I will win a picture of you in my. In the living room. I will tell everyone that walks in about your tail. When the shit hits the fan, the police show up. It's his. That's why you here, dog.
Jeremy
How will you tell that story?
Dominique
I feed you. That's why you're here. I give you shelter. You're here because when shit get a little sticky, you handle it. You get out of here. Like what? Ask you? You should be ready to go insane that there's even a conversation. What are you like, oh, Jeremy, you're putting the dog behind you. Like, I'm fighting this fight.
Jeremy
I'm trying to do. I'm trying. I'm trying to, at least for a little while, do what this woman did and scare the bear. That's what you're supposed to do anyway, right?
Dominique
So I'm not, my, my immediate reaction is not to sacrifice my dog. My first reaction, wrong word. But as soon as bear is circling me, I'm like, at least, like, all right, maybe if I let it go, it'll run that way.
Tony
What if it was a cat?
Dan Levitar
Oh, definitely not the dog part.
Dominique
Same thing.
Dan Levitar
The dog part is the part that makes me the most uncomfortable because I'm, I don't want, I don't want to have to watch this bear mutilate my dog. It's.
Tony
And that's before or after you come?
Dan Levitar
That's the scariest part for me. And this dog is a German, so it's not like you could pick up the dog and kind of protect it. The dog's too big, you know, and
Dominique
you can't protect it. What are you talking about? Pick up the dog? Try to protect. What do you even say, no, I
Dan Levitar
gotta protect my dog, man. In that.
Dominique
So you're gonna pick up the dog. We're going down for the dog.
Tony
That's my dog.
Zaslow
You don't stand there and watch the bear eat the dog, though, right? No, I run.
Dominique
I'm running.
Jeremy
Yeah, but then you turn and look
Dan Levitar
and you see it just ripping it to shredding. Live with myself. No, no, no. I wouldn't be able to live myself.
Dominique
You wouldn't be able to live. You were the dog.
Jay
You're choosing the dog.
Dan Levitar
I'm choosing to do whatever it takes to protect both of us.
Jeremy
So do you.
Dominique
You give the dog the keys and you say, go, Fido. Be free. Drive away. I'll handle this.
Dan Levitar
I, I, I'm not sacrificing the dog.
Dominique
Don't just pick a different word. You're allowing the dog to do the dog's job.
Jay
The ultimate duty.
Zaslow
In my mind, the dog could be
Dominique
fast enough to get away from the bear, like, maybe the dog.
Listener/Caller
No, it's not.
Dominique
You're denying, you're denying the dog its instinct to do the thing. You're saying, hey, dog, don't be a dog.
Dan Levitar
But I got to know, like, sometimes the dog doesn't know any better. You got to know better. The dog's going to. The dog's going to die. Dog serves no chance against.
Dominique
We're in the wild. Which one of you, you or the dog thinks that they know better? In this situation, the dog knows better.
Dan Levitar
Got to protect the dog.
Dominique
Go do your thing, dog. Yeah, go, dog.
Dan Levitar
No, I got to protect the dog.
Dominique
And I'm going to do what we do. We drive. I'm driving. You're dogging perfect.
Dan Levitar
I'm so uncomfortable with the whole situation there.
Dominique
Tell your story. No one's happy about sacrificing the dog.
Dan Levitar
I wouldn't be able to literally, in
Dominique
a life or death situation.
Zaslow
I. I appreciate that.
Jeremy
Chris at least admits it now. It's a sacrifice.
Dominique
The word sacrifice is not a sacrifice.
Jeremy
It's a sacrifice.
Dominique
It's not a sacrifice.
Dan Levitar
I don't know, man. I don't like it. I don't like the way you're talking either.
Jay
The dog gets in the line of fire. That's what he's born to do.
Dominique
Y'.
Zaslow
All.
Dominique
You're talking y' all and your dogs, man. I don't get it.
Zaslow
You know people eat bear.
Jay
I heard it's a great.
Zaslow
I heard it a few years ago. Why are we not eating? Why are we wasting this beast? The flesh of this beast? And then I was corrected. No, no. People in certain parts of the world do eat bear.
Dan Levitar
That's what the woman should have said. If you don't leave now, I'm going to eat.
Zaslow
She. She deserves the MVP though. Let's. Let's honor her. She knew to make those noises and stuff. Zaslow. You wouldn't know it. I wouldn't know to go around that. That would have some impact. It's sort of like Tom, I. I cast Away. I don't like Castaway for a number of reasons. The movie we can dig. We can deep dive it at a later date. But specifically here I don't like the. The idea that he knows how to start a fire and everything. I think it's a much more intriguing treating film. If it's Zaslow in that spot, how do you. Or Damage. How do you make your way on a deserted island? You don't. I think that's a more entertaining.
Dominique
Can I just say. Can I just jump in for a second and say that? Whenever you throw a topic to someone, it's like you're flipping a coin and in your mind you're like, all right, they can go this way or that way. When you throw something to Damachek, it is like it's rolling seven die. Like it could go anywhere. And it's so exciting. It adds a thrill to the show where it's like, I'll say anything to him. Who cast away.
Tony
Yeah, you can eat Bear. You go to Castaway. You can go to the Hanks.
Zaslow
You know, he's deserted on this island. And then he has what he has to get by how he does like. Like people do in prison. He has to get by with the volleyball, and he does what he does, and that's that. But he survives. He somehow impossibly escapes this island, and he makes his way back to civilization. And then he goes to visit the woman to whom he was engaged, and within 90 seconds, she's like, you missed the Titans. They almost won the Super Bowl. Hey, lady, I almost died on an island. What?
Listener/Caller
What?
Zaslow
What are you talking. I don't care about the Titans. That movie sucks.
Listener/Caller
What.
Dominique
What version of Castaway did you see? What did he do with the volleyball in that movie?
Zaslow
Well, I think it's implied.
Lavar Ball
Oh.
Zaslow
Got a face and everything.
Dan Levitar
Look, I. I'm gonna tell you something. I think we agree on one care
Zaslow
more about that volleyball than Zaslow does his dog.
Dan Levitar
I. That's not true. I think we could agree on one thing here. This woman. This woman deserves a toast.
Jeremy
Yes, she does. Absolutely.
Zaslow
What a great effort by you, lady.
Dan Levitar
How about that? A toast from Cuervo. That's right.
Dominique
Keep it fun. Keep it Cuervo. This lady, like as I may, I would have sacrificed the dog.
Zaslow
She did not.
Dominique
She was brave, and she's worth a toast. Many toasts.
Listener/Caller
I'd say
Tony
Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?
Zaslow
I know it.
Jay
Well, it's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.
Tony
Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.
Jay
It has that effect on people.
Zaslow
It does.
Tony
You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollering. Keep it Cuervo.
Jay
Keep it cuervo, baby.
Tony
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Dan Levitar
Dan Lebatar the Packers win or the Bear lose. Bears lose. Jonathan Saslow Shit. Do you want to know how that. What were the kids doing? This is the Dan Levatare Show. Breaking news here real quick in the world of Major League Baseball. How about this. The New York Mets have fallen. Fire manager Carlos Mendoza. They are 34 and 47. Go ahead, Jeremy. I know this is your lane, your time to shine.
Jeremy
That means that Marlins manager Clayton McCullough, who was in year two of managing the Miami Marlins, is the longest tenured manager in the National League East.
Dominique
Wow.
Dan Levitar
How about that Crazy.
Jeremy
The amount of turnover that division has had.
Dan Levitar
How many managers have been fired midseason from that division?
Jeremy
Now the. It's the Phillies who fired Rob Thompson. Don Mattingly is their manager now. And now the Mets just did that. Walt Weiss took over this year for the Braves. They're having a great original Marlon Short, and I believe it's Butera is the manager now of the Nationals who's like younger than half of Major League Baseball, and he's their manager. So Clayton McCullough is the longest tenured manager in that division, as the Marlins, of course, are off to their third best start in club history at the half.
Dan Levitar
There you go. All right, so Mets fire manager Carlos Mendoza. Dave, I know you were all fired up earlier today. Jazz Chisholm with the lollipop the other day at second base. And then he was kind of shoving it in the. In the camera with all the lollipops. What do you got for me there? Are you fired up over Jazz Chisholm and lollipops?
Zaslow
Well, I just felt, yeah, he got a lot of attention for it. And as a man of justice, I wanted to honor UL Washington, who used to play shortstop in Major League Baseball. He would stand out there the whole game with a toothpick in his mouth. That seems extra dangerous and unnecessarily so, but I admire it. Nevertheless. The thing that gets me down, though, is the. Remember Jay Johnstone, the clown prince of baseball and how hilarious he was? And everybody pointed at him, and you were expected to laugh along with it because he used to do stuff like he would blow a bu. He'd be in the dugout, and he would have bubble gum, and he would blow a bubble, and he would leave the bubble. Then he would take the bubble, he put it on top of his head. Wait, get this, though. Sometimes he would take a lighter, and then he would set his teammate's foot on fire. That's a felony.
Dominique
Hilarious.
Listener/Caller
It's a.
Zaslow
It's a crime. Setting people on fire is funny.
Dan Levitar
Set of people on fire is definitely a crime.
Zaslow
What now?
Dan Levitar
But if you do it in a baseball dugout, it's hilarious. Whatever. That guy set fire.
Jay
Who are you guys talking about?
Dan Levitar
We're talking about old baseball players. You said prince hijinks in the dugout.
Zaslow
But. But it was. It was a universally accepted law that Jay Johnstone was hilarious. Can't you see how funny it is? He puts gum on people's hats.
Jay
What was his batting average?
Dominique
He's a lefty.
Zaslow
Batted a thousand in the comedy department.
Dan Levitar
I like. I.
Listener/Caller
That.
Dan Levitar
That was. That was my favorite. One of my favorite parts about Mr. Baseball. What a movie. Mr. Tom Selleck. Mr. Baseball. That's a great movie.
Jay
And.
Dan Levitar
And. And. And they used to. They used to light their. Their cleats on fire when the guy wasn't paying attention. And then it was hilarious when he noticed because his foot was burning off.
Zaslow
Hanks is on the island, and he's engaged to Helen Hunt, and he, you know, focuses on her picture and all of that. It's four years he's gone. He's. He's lost to the world. Helen Hunt, during that time, finds a new man and makes a baby with her and the baby with him. It's CHRIS Noth. It's Mr. Big, from what's it called?
Dan Levitar
You know, I think it's.
Tony
Whatever it is, I'm not watching.
Zaslow
He. She.
Tony
What.
Zaslow
What's going on with Helen Hunt there? She's a grieving woman, but she also has time to. To make time with the dentist and make a baby with him and start a whole new life while Hanks is off. But.
Listener/Caller
But
Zaslow
convinces Chris Noth to keep the Jeep of Tom Hanks, who died at sea. Died in a plane crash. Why is Chris Noth signing off, keeping the dead fiance's car in his garage? What the hell?
Dominique
People differently, man. People breathe differently.
Tony
They quite literally are Parking their car in the same garage.
Zaslow
I mean, that's pretty creepy stuff.
Dan Levitar
It does seem like she's moving.
Zaslow
Why do you want to keep the car?
Dominique
Hey, I understand why you draw the line there. Like, it's the same house. Bedroom, bed.
Tony
It's like a serial killer token.
Dominique
There you go. There's lots of other things about Dexter, but the car, Helen, it's.
Zaslow
I, I, I appreciate that you've gone through a tough time, but do we, do we have to keep his car in our home? You Forever? Like we're just going to keep it. Look, Jeeps, nobody's going to drive it.
Tony
Jeeps age gracefully, and they become collector's items. Was it a wrangler?
Zaslow
Practical choice.
Tony
Yeah. Was it a wrangler? If it was a. If it's a wrangler, you got to keep it.
Zaslow
Cherokee.
Tony
It sounded like you took issue with the four years thing.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, right. It feels like you thought that she didn't grieve long enough.
Zaslow
No, she clearly.
Tony
Biological clock. Helen Hunt up there. She wanted to have a family. Clearly.
Zaslow
Do the math on this.
Tony
Okay.
Zaslow
He. His plane crashes, right? So he's gone. Now we assume that he, he died with the rest of the crew there. So, what, six months? Because now she again. They live together. They had a funeral, and they have. Right. And the baby, if I remember correctly, maybe a year old. It's not a brand new baby. It's not like a month old baby. It's at least six months old. So you can back into that like she was with, she was with Chris. Not within a year. Within a year.
Dominique
Well, I mean, my, my guess. My guess is that a traumatic experience like that makes you value your time and things that maybe you have put off in the past. You would say, I'm not putting this off anymore. I'm not going to waste time thinking about what's going to be, when it's going to be. I'm going to do the things that I've always wanted to have a family right now. Let her grieve the way she wants to grieve. Be just the judgment. You don't have more judgment. Tom Hanks. It didn't take him long to find that volleyball, did it? I judging him with that volleyball.
Zaslow
But this isn't about. This isn't about Helen Hunt. It's about Tom Hanks and what he went through, and she should be able to relate to that. Instead, like I say, she opens her front door, which, by the way, she's standing at the front door in the middle of the night when Hank shows up there, and her. Her husband and her new child are sleeping upstairs, and she's down there waiting on him to crack the door open. And like I say, instead of here.
Jay
Oh, my God.
Zaslow
What did you do? How did you survive all that? I can't imagine. Well, yeah, how did you. What did you eat day to day to sustain life? No. She's launching into a story about you missed the Super Bowl. We have a team here now in Nashville. Did you hear? It's complete. Our Memphis. We have. We have a football team. We have. We came up just one yard short. Do you know who Kevin Dyson. Oh, I guess you don't know who Kevin Dyson is because you were on that island. But he almost scored. Like, what the hell's wrong with you, lady? I was trying to cling to life so I could get back to you, and you're telling me about the football game.
Dominique
Some people love ball, some people don't. I thought you loved ball. It's pretty clear to me that you don't appreciate that. The most important thing is, is ball, like, he got home and you know what? He was one yard short. Exactly. Well, not one yard short. You said they got a baby.
Dan Levitar
All fair points.
Dominique
Hello, listeners.
Jeremy
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Dan Levitar
availability various 18 Dan Levitar can I tell you something? I don't know, maybe like a month ago and I decided to watch Pitch Clock and I told Jeremy Jonathan Saslow, this is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Levatar Show.
Lavar Ball
Foreign.
Dan Levitar
Jeremy, I know you're fired up about this potential new MLB CBA and these proposals that the, that the league is going to come up with ahead of what, you know, looks like a, you know, potential labor work stoppage here. What, what is, what are some of the things that we need to know about that are being proposed here?
Jeremy
Yeah, I'm, I'm really concerned about where this is headed because it doesn't seem like the MLB and the MLBPA could be further apart right now within a salary cap sport, which is what they want in baseball right now. That is Major League Baseball, not the Players association. That's the owners.
Dan Levitar
Right, of course. And for context, the players have said for years that a salary cap is a nonstarter, it will never happen.
Jeremy
That's right, and it continues to be the case. And so within this next CBA, MLB proposed five years to free agency for players 30 or older instead of six years. So allowing players to reach free agency earlier, which would be a good thing. No qualifying offers, no deferred contracts, a max contract of five years for free agents, switching teams, that can only be 15% of the salary. So this upcoming year, that would be a five year, $202 million contract.
Dan Levitar
So not just a salary cap they're proposing, they're proposing actual max contract, including
Jeremy
a six year deal to stay with your own team. So six for 265, I believe, would be the look for the upcoming season. Obviously you juxtapose that with where contracts are right now. Like Juan Soto was on a 15 year, 760 something million dollars contract. So you could say it's ridiculous, but it's what a free market allows for Juan Soto to demand. And Dominique, I'm, I'm fascinated by what your perspective would be here. Obviously with your, your union work.
Dominique
I mean, they're always going to be really far apart at the beginning. That's the way. And we're still in the early stages, but this CBA negotiation is like just about every other one is it comes down to the owners having issues with each other. And rather than sorting out their own issues, they decide that they can agree upon taking it from the players. Because what I think they're trying to argue is that certain teams not argue, certain teams have a distinct advantage in baseball. Because they do, they're able to generate more revenue. And so, like this is there's a bunch of franchises. So if you think about a bunch of different McDonald's, like their franchises around the country, there are certain McDonald's that are in neighborhoods that are going to make a lot more money than others. In this scenario, I would say that, you know what you do. McDonald's should pool all their money and then split it equally and then do whatever you want. That's how you solve it. But rather than that, they say, like, nah, we're going to find another way to suppress the wages of the employees in order to create more revenue. It's not as much about parody as they will have you believe, obviously. And I think most like modern sports fans recognize that. And the max salary thing, it's another tool that they use to kind of turn the middle and lower class to try to create a divide where it's like, all right, if we cap their salaries, that means that the rest of you are going to get more money. If we raise the floor, the rest are going to get more money. It's looking to create division there. So this is like traditional labor stuff. And I think the most interesting thing, or the reason why I think that's pretty important is because the percentage of revenue that goes to baseball players is lower, last time I checked, than it. Than it is for football in basketball. So it's not necessarily about them spending too much money. That's not the problem. It's their goal is to find a way to suppress the salaries further, not necessarily to create parity. If they would split their revenue amongst all the teams the way they wanted to and then make it fair that way, then we'd be fine.
Jeremy
And to your point, they've also proposed and they put it out on MLB social media, like the MLB account, which is the account that goes out to the common fan where they're finding highlights and graphics like, you don't really see that often. Normally these things are done through, like MLB communications, but on the MLB account, they have this whole long post and within the graphic, they included the fact where they say they've accepted MLBPA's free agency proposal, which would get them out in five years, they've accepted MLB's. MLBPA's proposal to eliminate the qualifying offer system. But what they said is they proposed a historic increase to the minimum salary, a $1 million minimum for all players with at least two years of service and for zero and one year players who accrue a full year of service. And so what they're trying to do is show you, and it's true the minimum would go up, but with that cap, you put them in a really different space. There is a quote from Bruce Meyer, who's the interim head of the mlbpa, and he said, I'll tell you with all honesty, I have never seen this degree of unity at this point among agents and players. I think honestly, the league has done us a favor because their proposals are in fact, so obviously and extremely bad for players at all levels that it's actually been a benefit for our unity. Anybody who's banking on Major League Baseball players cracking, it's never happened. It's not going to happen. And that's why we're the only ones who don't have a salary cap.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, I mean, is there, is there any reason to believe that this is going to be the negotiation where the players finally agree to a salary cap? I mean, they're, they are, they have been adamant for literally ever that they are not going to agree to a salary cap.
Dominique
Yeah, I mean, I think there's reason to believe it because the leverage continues to shift in the favor of big business and in this country and in sports in particular. And also I do think that the players, the unity and the strength of the players hasn't been tested in modern Major League Baseball. So it'll be interesting to see if they've managed to maintain that solidarity and commitment. Please cut me off if I get boring, because this is something I get really passionate about. And all the CBAs that I've been a part of and all the CBA negotiations that I've watched and all the things that I've read about labor's unions, we always end up in the same place. And I think all union leaders and people involved in unions will sell to you that we're going to be able to beat them by using this special tactic. We'll beat them in court, or we'll beat them by turning the public against them, or I have this trick maneuver. I'll out negotiate them in the room. Ultimately, what it comes down to is, are you willing to say no? Are you willing to take the pain and the sacrifice of not working to get what it is that you want. Baseball's been willing to do that many times. They'll be tested again, and we'll find out. And the worst part about it is maybe the players win, maybe the owners win, but if the fight goes all the way to the end, obviously, it's us who loses. And ultimately, baseball as a product, because it just felt like it got fun again.
Jeremy
That's the thing.
Dominique
Like last week, like, everybody.
Jeremy
Everybody these last couple of years, because of some of the changes that they've made to pace of play and strategy.
Dan Levitar
No, no. I'm disgusted by the two of them back there. I'm disgusted with the two.
Dominique
Everybody's so bored.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, yeah. You, Tony, and you, Mike Ryan. I'm disgusted with the two of you.
Dominique
Okay? And Jeremy talking about nerd stuff.
Dan Levitar
No, Dominique is talking about important stuff. Serious stuff. And you guys, you're. You're children. Okay? And there are. There are very. There are images behind you, phallic images behind you that you. You are laughing about. Tony.
Zaslow
What.
Dan Levitar
Why are you guys behaving in such a manner?
Jay
Also, there was a wet sneeze, and
Dominique
then I. Chris had a real. And Tony was like. It was a wet sneeze.
Jay
It broke through the barrier of his hands and went like.
Dominique
No, it went into my hands.
Dan Levitar
One to one to five on the. On the wet sneeze meter, where we
Dominique
at at a 10. I put it at a three because there was zero phlegm, mucus. You know, I was sick last week.
Jeremy
Like, that was.
Dominique
It was just natural mist. Can't be a sneeze mist. Natural. You realize this is still, like, going everywhere?
Dan Levitar
No, not if you do it properly.
Dominique
It's going down.
Dan Levitar
Like, if you sneeze into your elbow
Dominique
properly, that's better than spitting all over all your hands. And then you're touching all the controls. You're shaking. No, I wiped it off with a tissue. Yeah, that's disinfected. Just beautiful.
Zaslow
Why does. What's so important about what Tom Hanks is doing as an American that. That he has to. He has to go off because his important job of overnighting stuff, he has to go like, sorry, I got to leave the Christmas party right now. Work calls. Like, what. What's the emergency about delivering packages for Federal Express? It's crazy that that's the premise of why he has to get on that plane that night. It's Christmas night. We understand. Right. But, Dominique, I feel like you're right about the owners trying to pit the players against other players, but isn't something that, as well, aren't all the other owners kind of raw with the Dodgers and the deferred payment thing?
Dominique
Yeah.
Zaslow
Isn't that really a hole in the operation that they're resentful of? On the same level of like, all the NHL hated the Devils for figuring out the loophole of. Of left wing lock, neutral zone. It's. You've. You found a crack in the system that you can exploit. Right.
Dominique
The owners in all the major sports do a pretty good job of keeping their own issues internal. But as I said at the start of this is like the beef is always between them, but they can't sort out what their issues are and they normally agree upon. You know what? I can make my life better by making another owner's life a little bit more difficult, or I can make all of the owners lives a little bit better by trying to make the players lives a little bit difficult, a little bit more difficult. So, like, they agree upon that. You're right. Like, almost every issue that comes up in a CBA is a result of some beef that two owners had with each other. Not necessarily an issue that they have with the players. It's just they agree that they can gang up on the weaker party, which I know players don't get the sympathy, and not that they need the sympathy, but they are the weaker party in this.
Lavar Ball
Got to eat a pack of dirt before you die.
Dan Levitar
That's what I'm talking about. Tony, it's your time to shine.
Dominique
Bring us back.
Dan Levitar
We are a few days away from NBA free agency officially starting. The draft concluded a couple of nights ago with the second round, also known as the Bronny James Memorial second round of the NBA draft. Tony, lots. Lots of rumors, lots of stories. What are some things we need to know about?
Jay
Yeah, we're gonna crank up the rumor mill here. I got a couple of stories that I want you guys to. To comment on. First one is the more of the fallout from the Lamelo ball trade over to Minnesota. Lavar Ball came out and had a couple of words for the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Lavar Ball
Minnesota Timberwolves. Y' all did the coldest move in the game. You went and got that mellow. Yes. But here's the thing. Let me give you the recipe. You got to get the other two ball boys. You get the other two ball boys. It will be the most watched team ever in the NBA. Trust me when I tell you. You don't think I'm just talking? No, I'm not. Mello can't win it by itself. But I tell you with his brothers, I guarantee y' all a championship. The chemistry and the goddamn speed of the game. I never taught my boys to play by themselves, but together you can't beat them. And with that avod, you already a superstar, so you know what to do. You will take a chance. So go get them boys. You can get Lonzo, damn near for nothing. You can get Jello, damn near for nothing. Guess what? Coming off the bench, starting team chemistry, morale in the locker room, whatever you want. Wherever them ball boys together can't lose. You want the championship? Get the mother too. And I guarantee a championship. Trust me when I tell you
Jay
I might swerve.
Tony
In that corner was the zoom camera following his gut.
Dominique
I loved that part.
Dan Levitar
You know, the four balls got that peg leg now.
Tony
I, I thought we talked about this
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size.
Jay
What do you think about Lavar Ball?
Dan Levitar
I love him. I do, I love him. I feel a little bit bad for him these days because he also revealed that his wife left him, you know, and that's obviously not funny.
Dominique
It felt like someone doing a Lavar Ball impersonation. He lost his mojo. It was like, I can still do this. And it was like he went to his closet and pulled out a wrinkly big baller brand shirt and put it on. It was like, I'm going to do it again, guys. And then there was no heart. It's like a washed up rapper going on tour.
Tony
You think I'm just talking.
Listener/Caller
Yeah.
Dominique
He's like, yes, he's a washed up stripper. Like, I got one more dance for you, baby. Like, no, stop it. I don't want this dance.
Zaslow
Lavar.
Tony
I'm just here to have a couple drinks. I just got here.
Jay
My buddies invited me.
Zaslow
Yeah, good.
Dan Levitar
Went out and got that mellow coldest. Moving again.
Tony
I don't have any cash.
Listener/Caller
Sorry.
Dominique
You can be a moment.
Dan Levitar
What else you got, Tony?
Jay
Another storyline. Jalen Duran plans to explore a sign and trade with negotiations stalling with the Pistons.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, so I saw this. Jalen Duran is, he's like insulted that the Pistons aren't offering him the max contract. And this one's always funny to me, Dominique. And I know you're, you're a pro player and you should be, and I'm always going to be pro team because I'm a fan and you know, a team wants the best for the team and the player in most cases is going to want what's best for him and his family, which is certainly understandable. But just because there is a maximum allowable contract doesn't mean when you're a good player, your team has to give you the maximum allowable contract. And this is where it's funny, because, you know, there's, hey, it's not. The player will always tell you or a lot of times tell you. It's not impersonal. It's business. But then when the team does the thing where it's not personal, it's business, the player then gets insulted. And we all saw the postseason that Jalen Duran just had. He stunk. He stunk. And so instead of $58 million a year, they're offering him $44 million a year. And it's like super insulting.
Dominique
I mean, this is a live demonstration of exactly what I was just talking about. Like, the NBA instituted the max salary because the owners were not able to be able to negotiate against the star players. And the result of the max salary is, of course, you suppress some of the salaries, but the result is also there's this signpost that's going to draw people up. And so like, they created this problem. And if you want to put your foot down, it's the same thing. Put your foot down and don't pay him, then that's fine. Someone will pay him the money. And I understand that he can make more with the Pistons then he can elsewhere. That's a challenge. But I don't think that the point that you made about the players saying it's a business, that's how it worked. I think it went the other way where the owners and the teams are like, this is a business and the players reacted to it. It's not that the players are like, don't have it hard feelings. This is a business. I'm forcing my way out. It was the other way around. So of course I saw the playoffs. I get why you wouldn't want to pay J or Jaden Doran that amount of money. However, I recognize that they created this structure that's going to happen this way. And so like, you're going to have to, at some point stop trying to make rules to avoid yourself having to be the bad guy or make the tough decision. Sooner or later you're going to have to make the tough decision. So make the tough decision and don't blame, don't blame him.
Dan Levitar
What else you got? Tony Zaz?
Jay
Sorry, I'm just upsetting to report Mike Onori, longtime grinder and bench coach for a lot of different teams, assigned a three year contract. Obviously we've talked about it. Not really plus one, plus one. And I'm looking through and I've looked at four or five different articles, a bunch of different reports. I can't get a dollar figure attached to what it is that he's making.
Dan Levitar
Oh, I think I heard it was like 1.5.
Jay
Really? All I see is that it's underneath the below market, you know, base value.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, it definitely is. I think it's 1.5, which is less than some big time assistant coaches in the NBA. I've never seen anything like this. I know the coaches association president, which is J.B. bickerstaff. He was not happy, nor should be. This is very unconventional where he gets a guaranteed one year and then the team can force you for another year and the team can force you for another year. Like, that's, that's kind of nuts. But at the same time, no one forced Mike and Ori to sign it.
Jay
No. And that's the part. It's like you talk about the Lev. Like he's looking at him being like, all right, I may not get another chance to be a head coach somewhere. And like, this is a disaster, but at least if I play well, I'll get the one plus one plus one, and then I can go get something else. Maybe later in a couple.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, but it's like, man, you. If you're, if you're getting such a small salary for a coach, the team can make you wait three years until you get that good payday, you know?
Dominique
Yeah.
Jay
Hopefully with another team.
Dominique
Yeah, it's. It sucks. But I mean, they obviously have the ability to do it. I think sometimes these things kind of backfire when you feel like you're taking advantage of somebody or mistreating them. If he works out to be pretty good, I'm not sure how, how happy he's going to be to show up at work. And of course you'll say, shut up. Show up at the work, do your job. It's your job. But like, these things matter. I think how you treat people, it ultimately comes back and other people make decisions based on.
Dan Levitar
Well, and this is combined with the new owner is apparently a huge cheapskate.
Jay
Yeah. And what they did to Thiago Splitter also when Chauncey Billups got roped up, second game of the season, Thiago Splitter comes in and does an amazing job, leads him to the, to the, to the playoffs. And it's like, all right, we're talking to other coaches. We'll get a guy who's going to take 1000% less than you will.
Dan Levitar
You got anything else for us?
Jay
I did really quick Mike Annori. People probably don't know who he is. He drops some gems during halftime and post game press conferences.
Tony
Nothing fast. Break points.
Lavar Ball
Boom.
Tony
Goes to dynamite. There goes our lead. We got to treat Bane like you do the elf on a shelf on Christmas morning. You got to find him. He makes everybody comfortable. He's like popcorn during Saturday night movies. Our paint defense was like 7:11 open 24 hours. Realized they had hits on like Donkey Kong the way they started out. First time all year that we were kind of on almost like a hot mess express.
Dan Levitar
So he's just doing material at halftime, doing bits. I like it.
Jeremy
I'm fully in.
Dominique
I like what coaching is. You just do a bunch of bits. Feel like that by right there is worth more money.
Dan Levitar
Yeah.
Zaslow
No Hot foot.
Dan Levitar
He's fun now. I dig it. Those are the things for us to look out for, I guess over the next few days there.
Jay
Tony and Jaylen Brown. Where is he gonna end up?
Jeremy
Also LeBron James.
Dan Levitar
Yes.
Jeremy
To the Miami Heat.
Dan Levitar
All right. We're still doing the up. And there is. There's the picture Supergirl. Mike and Tony can't stop laughing at.
Tony
Got that D.C. good Lord.
Dominique
Real mature.
Dan Levitar
Down Levitar.
Listener/Caller
There's sunglasses in boxes today. Putting my bed in the hospital. Ending our lives all the same.
Dan Levitar
Jeremy Tache.
Listener/Caller
It's the final nightgown.
Dan Levitar
This is the dan levatar show. Ah, yes. It is almost the weekend. Very excited. First. First time in a long time for me, Dominique. I am not working this weekend. I have no work this weekend. Get to get to chill. We have our world cup watch party tomorrow night right at Lost Boys on Flagler. All right.
Tony
Lost Boy clubhouse, which is right in front of Lost Boy right here in downtown Miami. I don't know if you've seen this setup. It is unreal.
Dan Levitar
Really. I'm coming. I'm going to be there.
Tony
Yeah. The atmosphere is going to be incredible. It's all presented by our partners over at DraftKings Sports Good. An app that is all available in all 50 states live in all 50, including the sunshine State.
Dan Levitar
Dave, they got garlic rolls. You're going to come. Garlic rolls.
Zaslow
Count me in. Ship some over to me. Can you uber them across the country?
Dan Levitar
Yeah, I guess so. Whatever, man. So tomorrow night, 7:30pm on Flagler. Lost Boy Clubhouse. Jeremy. So we sent you into the lab earlier show you got very excited about the potential of the Florida Panthers possibly acquiring Connor Hellebuk. Right. What can you want to. You want to set up what you came up for us here?
Jeremy
Well, Dominique said don't look at me like that, Mike.
Dan Levitar
Let's just roll through it, all right? It's a play on dog.
Jeremy
He said hella buck girl so that's what I did. The rest is history.
Listener/Caller
Every time that you shoot that puck, my man so I am a hella buck girl I am a hella buck girl every time that you shoot that puck my man gunner, he don't give a cause I am a hella buck girl I am a hell of a buck girl blast that shot. What? That shot. Ooh, blast that shot let me hear you say the floor ritter panthers. B a n t h, r s the floor rita panthers. B a n t h, r s the floor ritter panthers. P a n t h, r s the floor. Ritter panthers. B a n t h, r s every time that you shoot that puppy, my man. Every time that you shoot that, my man.
Dan Levitar
He's gonna love when we play that for him.
Dominique
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Jeremy
When he gets traded here, it's the first thing we do, right?
Tony
Jeremy made a bop. Thank you.
Dan Levitar
That's a really good job there, Jeremy. How about that? I ain't no hella buck girl I'm really surprised.
Tony
Yeah, that one was good.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, that one was good.
Dominique
Normally terrible. I mean, it's just a vibe, man. It's a vibe.
Jeremy
Yeah. Creativity, it's fine.
Dominique
Panthers.
Jeremy
P A, N, T, H, R S. It's fine.
Dan Levitar
It's okay.
Dominique
You.
Jeremy
How would you read that? Panthers.
Dan Levitar
Yeah, that's why I said that's. I didn't say it's not okay.
Zaslow
No, no, I know.
Dominique
Okay.
Jeremy
I was looking at you, but I meant it sort of generally with the vibe for the. For the people who inevitably.
Tony
You didn't spell Panthers, right?
Jeremy
No, it's all right. I spelled Panthers right.
Dan Levitar
Good job. Excellent. All right. So hopefully. I don't know. I mean, can we arrive here on Monday morning and the Florida Panthers have a new starting goalie? That'd be really fun.
Jeremy
Can you imagine starting forward for the Heat?
Lavar Ball
Yeah.
Zaslow
Kawhi.
Tony
Connor Hellebuck. Insane.
Dan Levitar
Which. Which would have been a bigger acquisition. Giannis to the Heat or Connor Hellabach?
Tony
Connor Hellebuck.
Dominique
Oh, God.
Tony
What? He's best at his position. He's an American hero. Not the best at his position anymore.
Dan Levitar
Not an American hero either, that's for sure.
Jeremy
He's not an American hero. That much I can give you.
Tony
What's his position? Big guy in the middle. Clearly not the best at that anymore. Clearly not the best.
Jay
Power forward's kind of down across the league. You're thinking about all the big guys or centers.
Tony
He's. He's a big. He plays the middle.
Jay
But he's a.
Tony
But he's a, like, guard.
Dan Levitar
Huh? He.
Mike Ryan
He.
Jeremy
Because he can play like a guard.
Jay
Yeah.
Zaslow
I'm not.
Tony
Let me. Let me. Let me be abundantly clear.
Dan Levitar
Go on.
Tony
You are so wrong.
Mike Ryan
He's a point.
Dominique
I don't know.
Tony
Giannis is better than Connor Hellebuck.
Jay
He's a point.
Dominique
No, I don't know.
Zaslow
You are.
Mike Ryan
You are.
Tony
I don't want to call you a name, but you're stupid.
Listener/Caller
Whoa.
Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show
Episode: Is An MLB Lockout Inevitable In 2027? | Hour 2
Date: June 26, 2026
Location: Live from Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This episode blends the signature humor, sports banter, and insightful commentary that fans expect from The Dan Le Batard Show. While the headline topic centers on the looming threat of a Major League Baseball (MLB) lockout in 2027, the crew covers a wide swath of topics: viral bear encounters, classic sports movie gripes, the nuances of sports labor negotiations, zany moments from the world of NASCAR, and local Miami sports developments. The tone oscillates from silly and irreverent to genuinely thoughtful—especially in the hour’s deep dive into the economics of baseball.
Segment Timestamps: 26:42–36:35
Despite the episode’s “MLB lockout” headline, this hour delivers trademark Le Batard Show chaos: a deft blend of sports labor analysis, classic humor, movie tangents, viral oddities, and Miami-local color. Among all the levity, their nuanced breakdown of the coming storm in MLB collective bargaining stands out for both depth and accessibility. Whether you tune in for laughs or labor history, there’s something here for every kind of sports fan.
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