Is Victor Wembanyama The NBA GOAT? | Local Hour

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Is Victor Wembanyama The NBA GOAT? | Local Hour

Date: May 19, 2026

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Episode Overview

Broadcast from Miami’s Elser Hotel, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and crew dive into a raucous, sports-heavy episode centered on the ascendance of NBA phenom Victor Wembanyama. The conversation darts through podcast bit squabbles, legendary sports calls, the magnitude of Wembanyama’s playoff debut, and the enduring impact of stars like Lionel Messi. The tone is playful, irreverent, and debate-driven, blending analysis with comic banter.

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1. Podcast Bit Controversy: Intellectual Property and “Borrowed Content”

[01:00–05:51]

Key Points:

• Greg Cody clarifies he's limiting the use of his podcast bits (“Greg Doesn’t Know Movies,” “Catchphrase Countdown”) to preserve originality for his own show.
• The crew debates the fairness of this, with Dan joking about “homage” and Cody about protecting “intellectual property.”
• Negotiation ensues over whether Dan’s show can use these bits, ending with Cody willing to relent if his catchphrases make it onto a national Cubs broadcast.

Quotes & Moments:

• Greg Cody: “I'm just trying to protect my intellectual property... we're not a big company, we're small.” [01:20]
• Dan Le Batard: “It's derivative, though. And it's flattery. Right? To do some cop cat stuff that honors you as the pioneer is homage. It's not insult.” [03:19]
• Stugotz: “Your protest is over. I offer you a little candy that's national in nature and you immediately put down your protest.” [05:45]

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2. Golf, Catchphrases, and Broadcasting Traditions

[05:45–07:36]

Key Points:

• Boog Shambi will use Greg Cody’s catchphrase “very good at golf” on a Cubs broadcast, a new spin on tired golf catchphrases like “Baba Booey.”
• Discussion on bringing freshness to sports broadcasting and honoring local contributors.

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3. Sports Radio Legend & Harry Caray Bathroom Story

[07:36–08:41]

Key Points:

• Boog Shambi recounts an awkward yet classic encounter with Harry Caray in Wrigley’s press box bathroom.
• Illustrates the camaraderie and odd rituals of baseball broadcasting.

Quote:

• Harry Caray (via Boog): “I got so much clothes on I can't even see my own dick.” [07:26]

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4. Wembanyama Mania: Is He the NBA’s Next GOAT?

[08:08–29:11]

Major Discussion Points:

A. Wembanyama’s Historic Playoff Debut

• Dwyane Wade’s quote on Wemby possibly skipping the “suffering” before winning a championship as most superstars do.
• Comparing Wemby’s game to Shaq’s 2001 playoff dominance and Wilt Chamberlain’s legendary stats.

B. Legendary Game Call Debate

• The iconic “Do you believe in miracles?” Al Michaels call is mentioned as the gold standard.
• The OKC radio call of Wembanyama’s 30-foot game-tying three is playfully dissected for its underwhelming yet memorable “is in there” phrasing.
  • OKC Announcer: “Wemby, leaning 30 foot, three to tie, is in there. 26.3 to play.” [20:33]

C. Breaking Down Wemby’s Impact

• Spurs’ record with Wemby playing at least 15 minutes: 37-3 since February 1st—comparable or superior to historic Golden State seasons.
• His two-way dominance cited: alters paint defense and can hit clutch, impossibly deep shots.

D. Health, Longevity, and Caution Against GOAT Hysteria

• Panel debates whether it's fair to put Wemby above Jordan or LeBron so early—concern around “player that size always gets hurt.”
• Comparison to Shohei Ohtani in MLB: immediate, transcendent impact with some reluctance to anoint “greatest ever” status without longevity.

E. Did Wemby Take a "Good" Shot?

• Discussion about Wemby’s 30-foot three: admirable risk or bad shot only redeemed by going in?
• “No bad shots if you're the greatest basketball player who's ever lived...” [25:31]

F. Is Wemby "Ruining" or "Saving" the NBA?

• Poll suggestion: “Wemby: gonna ruin the league, save the league, or both?”
• The fun of dynasties, sports "unfairness," and whether the NBA can handle a player so singularly dominant.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard: “That was a Wilt game. ... Any amount of hyperventilation around him today will not be overstatement.” [13:17, 13:44]
• Greg Cody: “Wembanyama to get to that level… even if you call it a bad shot. That has to go in to form the myth and the legend of this.” [26:23]
• Stugotz: “Victor Wembanyama is the greatest basketball player who's ever lived. Just like Shohei Ohtani was immediately the greatest baseball player who's ever lived.” [25:37]

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5. The “Greg Doesn’t Know Movies” Bit (with Spoilers)

[32:23–36:03]

Key Points:

• Greg hilariously guesses “Open Neck” for the movie SE7EN ("What's in the box?") and fails to recognize The Hangover.
• The crew presses Greg for the seven deadly sins; he needs extensive clues, prompting good-natured ribbing.

Quotes:

• Dan Le Batard: “At the end of the movie, it’s the only one where Gwyneth Paltrow’s head ends up in a box.” [33:07]
• Greg Cody: “I haven't read the Bible in a day and a half.” [34:21]

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6. Messi’s Impact: Greatest Transaction in American Soccer?

[37:16–42:24]

Key Points:

• Greg Cody’s Miami Herald column lauds Messi’s impact on U.S. soccer, asserting his arrival in Miami outstrips even Dan Marino or LeBron locally.
• Discussion of fan protest—disappointment with Inter Miami results—juxtaposed with the sheer magnitude of having Messi play in MLS.
• Debate over whether LeBron’s local impact compares (Dan: yes, Greg: globally, no way).

Quotes:

• Greg Cody: “Messi, the way I would put it, is nobody in the history of South Florida sports... nothing compares with Messi.” [38:01]
• Dan Le Batard: “LeBron being the best of his time and among the best of all time, being here for four years in a sport that locally people care about as much.” [38:42]

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7. SGA, Defense, and What’s Next in the Spurs-OKC Series

[42:24–44:47]

Key Points:

• Brief touch on SGA’s (Shai Gilgeous-Alexander) off night and whether defensive schemes or Wemby’s presence made him “look bad.”
• Tony credits the Spurs’ blitzing and team defense—especially the tactical decision to force secondary Thunder players to shoot.
• Anticipation that the grueling minutes may catch up to the Spurs as the series progresses.

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8. Comic Interludes & Running Gags

Throughout

• The “Chet” name tangent (Chet Holmgren) and how his name affects perceptions.
• Friendly mockery about Greg Cody’s movie knowledge, his biblical grasp, and the generational confusion over comedy films.

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Key Timestamps

• [01:00] — Greg Cody’s protest and podcast bit negotiation
• [05:42] — Golf catchphrases for national broadcast
• [07:26] — Boog Shambi / Harry Caray bathroom story
• [08:08] — Wemby skips the “suffering”? Wade’s championship logic
• [12:33] — “Do you believe in miracles?”: Greatest sports call debate
• [13:28] — Comparing Wemby to Shaq, Wilt, Ohtani
• [20:33] — OKC Radio call: “Wemby, leaning 30 foot, three to tie, is in there...”
• [25:31] — “There are no bad shots if you're the greatest..."
• [26:23] — Greg on why legend-formation requires iconic shots
• [32:23] — "Greg Doesn’t Know Movies": SE7EN, Hangover
• [37:16] — Messi’s impact locally, compared to LeBron
• [42:24] — Wemby’s bench impact & heavy minutes concern
• [43:06] — On SGA’s struggles, Spurs’ defensive approach

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a masterclass in the Live LeBatard Experience: spirited debates, communal mockery, and poignant sports analysis. The fascination with Wembanyama is the thematic through-line—his myth grows in real time and stirs both awe and caution, serving as a cultural event within the NBA’s evolving narrative. Alongside, Messi’s American chapter is framed as epochal, and the show’s meta-jokes around sports media and generational knowledge keep it fresh and fun for new and returning listeners alike.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard]

Greg, your son has told me that you sent him a text and that you are withholding some content today in a protest and I want to know what's happening because he hasn't given me details. He's just told me that you're tired of something that we're doing around here.

[Greg Cody]

No, I'm not tired of it. I'm just trying to protect my intellectual property. Property over there at the small private individual called the Greg Cody Show Podcast. You know, we're not a big company, we're small.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think that's the name of it.

[Greg Cody]

The Greg Cody Show.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not the name of it.

[Greg Cody]

Well, with Greg Cody, but you know, we're casual around here. We're using the nickname Chris.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can you read me the text that he sent you, please? Because he didn't give me the answer that I was looking for.

[Greg Cody]

I was getting to it.

[Dan Le Batard]

He just misnamed his podcast.

[Stugats Member 1]

He said, remember my new edict when it comes to DLs, they can have either the catchphrase countdown or the movies bit, but not both on the same day. And the movie bit should be confined to one hour and not reoccur the whole show.

[Greg Cody]

Fair. Reasonable.

[Dan Le Batard]

So the good content, you don't want

[Stugats Member 2]

us to have it.

[Greg Cody]

It's. It's the property of my podcast. I have been sharing the catchphrase countdown with you only because I normally come out a day before I'm on here. But the movie thing, like on my current episode that dropped yesterday morning, we have a Greg doesn't know movies. That's like A recurring bit that I have.

[Stugats Member 1]

So it was a spiteful. Greg doesn't know movies, by the way. He's like, they think they can have the movies bit. We're doing it this week on our show.

[Tony]

Greg, if I can play defense attorney for a second. Not for you, for Dan.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Can I argue that this bit is empirically different than the bit that you do on your podcast? And I'll tell you why. Chris has informed me and your. Your son Michael has also informed me, and Yeti has also informed me and informed the defense that they don't actually play the clips of the movies on your podcast. They ask you questions.

[Greg Cody]

Right?

[Tony]

So, in essence, us playing clips of movies to ask you if you know the movie clip and quote is a different game and a different, completely different thing.

[Greg Cody]

You know, that's a valid point, Tony, but I would argue your argument. I mean, there are movies. They're. How much or how little do I know about movies? That's the bottom line.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's derivative, though. And it's flattery. Right. To do some cop cat stuff that honors you as the pioneer is homage. It's not insult. And you're now actively denying us the good content. Anytime we get something that works with you, you take it away and you. You take your ball and you run home with it.

[Greg Cody]

That's not true. I like the metaphor, though. No, it's not true. I mean, I'm offering either.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are the rules? Can I do one of them today and one of them tomorrow, since you're in both days? Or are you just limiting us to I can't do it in a week?

[Greg Cody]

You normally only do the catchphrase count.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. If you can only do one, which one do you want? Catchphrase update or Greg doesn't know movies? Go ahead. Go ahead and pick one. I still don't understand what the rule is. What are you saying is the rule?

[Greg Cody]

The rule is, and I hope you appreciate it. I just don't want to give.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't appreciate it. For the record, I do not appreciate it.

[Stugats Member 2]

To be clear.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, These are things that. That are apart, integral with my podcast,

[Stugats Member 2]

but we're promoting your podcast.

[Dan Le Batard]

Zaz's podcast has blown up, at least in part because of being close to us and as has yours.

[Zaslow]

I was going to say hard work, but okay.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I'd like to take a little

[Stugats Member 2]

credit, but it's grown by eight times since you've been here. Like it is.

[Greg Cody]

Also, I can relate.

[Tony]

Wow, congrats.

[Stugats Member 2]

It can also be hard work, but it's also grown since you got here. That's not disputable. Both of you grew your podcasts after the affiliation with our show and the ability to. I don't want the credit. I want the material.

[Greg Cody]

I think you're wanting the credit.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach Spotcast.

[Stugats Member 3]

They canceled my podcast when I started working here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is in with us today. He's already withholding his good material. We will find out soon whether we go catchphrases or movies today. I should tell you that Boog Shambi is going to be on with us here at some point this week, and my intent was to try and get some of your catchphrases on a Cubs broadcast as part of promoting what it is that Boogie is doing with us. Do you still want to withhold it if I get some of your catchphrases on the Cubs broadcast?

[Greg Cody]

No, I'd like that. That'd be great.

[Dan Le Batard]

So that's it.

[Stugats Member 2]

Your protest is over. I offer you a little candy that's

[Dan Le Batard]

national in nature and you immediately put down your protest.

[Greg Cody]

What I'm really pushing for is to hear the phrase very good at golf galleries. Like after a good drive instead of get. Instead of the old tired get in the hole.

[Stugats Member 1]

I will say Roy said yesterday and I agree with him. We're done with the Baba Bowie thing. Like, I love the Howard Stern show.

[Greg Cody]

Love Baba Bowie.

[Stugats Member 1]

But the Baba Bowie cheer at golf. Like, we need something new.

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Stugats Member 2]

Very good.

[Stugats Member 1]

That could.

[Greg Cody]

Yes, that's a good nominee. It is. Thank you. And Boog likewise, should push very good because it works. After a whole imagine that as a home run call, it's over the fence and the United goes. Very good. It'd be great.

[Dan Le Batard]

A Cubs broadcast traditional in nature.

[Stugats Member 2]

You think that that would fly like

[Tony]

a parrot in the booth.

[Greg Cody]

Where is it? Like a drunk Harry Carey couldn't. Couldn't. Couldn't be heard saying that.

[Zaslow]

So we're going to act like Cubs are. Cubs games are above reproach. They're doing a beer snake.

[Stugats Member 2]

Come on.

[Dan Le Batard]

He mentioned Harry Carey now. And this I wanted to get to when Benyama. And we will in a second. Please get me the sound of how Pat Riley says wembanyama so we could celebrate a international name today. But since he mention Harry Carey, Booge Schombi tells the great story. The Wrigley Field press box and bathroom specifically was unbelievably small. Like it felt like something out of the 1920s. And so on a very cold winter

[Stugats Member 2]

day, he is awed because he is

[Dan Le Batard]

at the next urinal in a very

[Stugats Member 2]

tight space with Harry Carey.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Harry Carey is fumbling around in a lot of clothes and he just says to Boog by way of greeting, it's the first Boog is meeting a legend for the first time.

[Stugats Member 2]

What Harry Carey says is, I got so much clothes on I can't even see my own dick.

[Dan Le Batard]

Very poor Harry Carey impersonation by by an anecdote, though.

[Stugats Member 2]

All right, man, I want to get

[Dan Le Batard]

into a couple of things specifically from last night's game because I imagined every player in the west who doesn't play for OKC and the spurs calling their agent and asking for a trade because they see all of those young players and those two teams are built to last.

[Zaslow]

I think last night was a big night for the Miami Heat. All these players, they star players in the Western Conference. You don't think the Heat are in on them now? Last night was a great night for Heat culture.

[Dan Le Batard]

There are a number of things here. Dwyane Wade is saying, look, most players have to suffer before winning the championship, but Wemby might be the.001% that doesn't have to suffer because he says 99.9% of the time. I do believe a player has to through pain, but every so often it's a special mother bleeper that comes around and a special team that comes around that they don't have to experience it. And so I want to talk about a handful of things from last night's game because I don't know what the better feeling is. What do you guys think is the better feeling? Put this on the poll as well. Who feels better today? Wembanyama or Alex Newhook?

[Stugats Member 2]

Who feels better? Who feels better today?

[Zaslow]

That's a great question. New Hook scores the game winner again in overtime.

[Stugats Member 2]

The agains big because he's done this twice now and has anyone ever done it twice? Has anyone ever done the game winner in a Game seven?

[Zaslow]

Former Panther Nathan Horton with Boston did it twice in the same postseason actually. But New Hook advances Montreal to the conference final. I'm tempted to say that, but maybe it's when Benyama because it doesn't mean anything as far as new the rest of New Hook's career. Like Wembanyama obviously knows, but like everyone knows now. Okay, this guy owns the league when bia. So I feel like maybe the answer is Wembanyama.

[Greg Cody]

That is the answer. I would agree. Wemby is the answer. He made his statement.

[Stugats Member 2]

It's game one, and it's Eastern Conference finals. It's not an advancer. It doesn't finish a season, and it

[Dan Le Batard]

doesn't prevent the ending of a season. Those were two fantastic games last night, both of them.

[Stugats Member 2]

To have the stakes on that Montreal Buffalo game, to have the people of Buffalo, they've never had anything in sports win anything. They were so hopeful to take that away from them.

[Zaslow]

Dan, I had a real conundrum last night. So, you know, both these games, it's. It's overtime in Game 7 of the Hockey going on at the same time as, like, late fourth quarter of Oklahoma City and San Jose. I was like sports, but I had a problem. Do you know what my problem was, Dan? You could think about it. What was my problem? If this is happening at the same time.

[Stugats Member 2]

Well, are you in the tablet? Are you on.

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Stugats Member 2]

You're in bed, and you can't go to the bad couch, and you still haven't gotten a better couch.

[Tony]

You couldn't wait for 30 minutes just to sit on the leather couch?

[Stugats Member 2]

No, I.

[Zaslow]

This is when I go to bed, okay? So I'm watching in bed, and if anyone wants to sponsor the Zaslow mansion family room with a new couch, just read, hit me up. All right, my DMs aren't open. My DMs are open. So I'm in bed, asking for a new couch. I didn't ask. It's a sponsorship. And ask. So I'm in bed, and I got the tablet on my stomach. Of course. I said to my wife, I go, can we also put the TV on? She goes, no, it's tablet time. And so I had the tablet on my stomach, and the TV gets hot. It keeps her awake. And so I got the tablet on, and I'm watching the game, and I'm like, but damn it, I have to also watch the hockey. Of course. So I had to break out my phone. And you see how I got a kickstand here on the back of the phone.

[Stugats Member 2]

You had both of them on your stomach. Are you shirtless? Do you sleep with a T shirt,

[Zaslow]

or do you shirtless? Shirtless. Shirtless.

[Stugats Member 1]

I had wrestling jammies, but we had

[Zaslow]

the cleaning girl yesterday too, so brand new sheets, very comfortable. And so I have the.

[Greg Cody]

The. The.

[Zaslow]

You know, the thing here, the kickstand. All right, so I got the iPad on my stomach and also the iPhone set up on my stomach.

[Stugats Member 2]

Come. Zaslow is really having trouble. You made him stammer with the girl. Woman connection. Because I told him. I told him a couple of weeks ago, hey, it's girl under 18. It's woman after 18.

[Zaslow]

My boss.

[Stugats Member 2]

And he says, that's been hard for me to get right. I've been. I'm having a lot of trouble with that one. The handful of observations that I have

[Dan Le Batard]

from last night, and I have many, because I told you before the NBA playoffs have kind of stunk. Atlanta, New York gave us a good game. We had an overtime game in, you know, Cleveland, Toronto, but it's kind of stunk. And yesterday you had what has to be the play of the season. And I believe we have now a call that rivals. Do you believe in miracles?

[Stugats Member 2]

In terms of being a better call. And I know what I'm saying.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know that I am going after.

[Stugats Member 2]

I don't even know what second place is historically on the best call of all time.

[Dan Le Batard]

I know.

[Stugats Member 2]

Do you believe in miracles? 1980 Olympic hockey team. Let's play out my Michaels greatest upset

[Dan Le Batard]

in the history of American Sports.

[Stugats Member 2]

You've got 10 seconds. The Countdown going on right now. Morrow up to show five seconds left in the game. You believe in miracles?

[Greg Cody]

Yes.

[Stugats Member 2]

Holds up for 46 years.

[Dan Le Batard]

Somehow, I don't know what you guys would put in second place behind that,

[Stugats Member 2]

but somehow, hockey, 46 years later, because

[Dan Le Batard]

of the moment and the politics and

[Stugats Member 2]

everything else, that became the greatest call

[Dan Le Batard]

enduring for half a century.

[Stugats Member 2]

Now, obviously, the stakes are slightly different

[Dan Le Batard]

yesterday in that the most giant guy

[Stugats Member 2]

who's going to be running the league

[Dan Le Batard]

for several years, and God almighty, I'm super tempted to say that if this stays healthy, it's not going to be a stoppable thing. That was a Wilt game.

[Stugats Member 2]

Like, that's a. Shaquille O' Neal is the only one prime. Shaq2001 is the only one to go 40, 20 this deep in the playoffs. And this is this playoff debut for this guy, like, he's just getting started.

[Zaslow]

Shaq was in the league for, like, nine years at that point.

[Stugats Member 2]

It's just lunacy.

[Dan Le Batard]

And any amount of hyperventilation around him today will not be overstatement.

[Stugats Member 2]

If you suspect that if he stays

[Dan Le Batard]

healthy and keeps growing with that team,

[Stugats Member 2]

he can rival the best player ever. It's not overstatement because it's not a stoppable thing. They're trying to stop him with Caruso,

[Dan Le Batard]

but a handful of things here. A handful.

[Stugats Member 2]

Okay. I remind you that the spurs got deer in Fox because he's the one who's got veteran leadership.

[Dan Le Batard]

Didn't even need him last night. Didn't have him. Didn't need him.

[Stugats Member 2]

Win against OKC and Wemby leaves the court. OKC is 8 for 13 in the paint, 7 for 9 at the rim. He comes back on the court, and they cannot do the same things. And at the end of the game, the spurs go zone because they got beat on a three where they got beat, where Wemby didn't rotate, and they're like, screw this. Wemby staying in the paint. You're going to have to come do it in the paint. We're going zone. And OKC lost the game because OKC went zone. And all of a sudden they couldn't get shots. But these are the things that I think are worth monitoring in that series. I think the spurs are going to wear down the. Their guys played a lot of minutes last night. Wemby's never played that many minutes in a game. That's a career high for him.

[Dan Le Batard]

And all their main guys played a ton of minutes.

[Stugats Member 2]

And OKC over the course of a

[Dan Le Batard]

series can wear you down there. But what do you guys do when

[Stugats Member 2]

you see everything that happened last night? That shot with 26 seconds left is a truly terrible shot. It's a truly terrible shot. Unless you're maybe Steph Curry, history of the league. That's a truly terrible shot to take in that situation. I know the clock, but if he had missed it, if they're down 3, 26 seconds left, if he misses it, the bounce is going to make it so that they're still not going to have time. He's trying to rush that because they don't want to get to the fouls. And it is a terrible shot that he took. But no terrible shot gets remembered like that. Like that's going to be. I don't know that he's going to have a lot of shots in his career more memorable than that one.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, the terrible shot became one of the greatest shots of all time. And. And that's the way it works in sports with superstars who tend to do things like that more than mortal humans. When. When you say that Wembayama is still growing, you don't mean that literally, right?

[Stugats Member 2]

I might mean it.

[Greg Cody]

Imagine him as 8. 1.

[Stugats Member 2]

I might mean it literally. I don't know. If you put it on the pole,

[Zaslow]

he's grown eight more inches.

[Greg Cody]

He could be.

[Tony]

Imagine him at 8:1.

[Greg Cody]

He could be 8:1.

[Tony]

He might as well be 8:1.

[Greg Cody]

Now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show.

[Stugats Member 2]

Do you stop growing at 20 old, yes or no?

[Dan Le Batard]

Because it is Possible that he grows a little bit more.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah. Eight, one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not that much more Market Tony, you

[Stugats Member 4]

know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks? I know it.

[Greg Cody]

Well.

[Tony]

It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Stugats Member 4]

Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

[Greg Cody]

Walking like this.

[Stugats Member 4]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Tony]

It has that effect on people.

[Stugats Member 4]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollerin'. Keep it Cuervo.

[Greg Cody]

Keep it Cuervo, baby.

[Stugats Member 4]

Chris Cody, when you come over to my house and we put on the games, I got basketball, I got baseball going on, but what do I lay out for you and the boys for entertainment and drinking?

[Greg Cody]

Miller Line.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Uh huh.

[Stugats Member 4]

Those beautiful white cans or on draft or the bottle, if you prefer.

[Stugats Member 2]

Oh.

[Stugats Member 1]

When you open that with the can, though, and you.

[Stugats Member 4]

One of the best sounds on the planet. You pair that with the right game, you take that first sip, we both look around. It's not a bit.

[Stugats Member 1]

I have goosebumps thinking about the first sip.

[Stugats Member 4]

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[Stugats Member 4]

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[Zaslow]

Don LeBatard Quiet, man.

[Greg Cody]

Yes. You know, I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife. Despite that gratuitous line in back in Stugats, I wish you were here. My wife, I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married, you know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm on the phone with her. 30 seconds. You know, what am I. Hello?

[Stugats Member 2]

All right.

[Greg Cody]

All right, we'll see you. All right. And then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days. I was jumping Charlie. Good.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Stugats Member 2]

So I believe, though, that we have a call from that game to rival.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you believe in miracles?

[Stugats Member 2]

And it comes courtesy of the OKC

[Dan Le Batard]

broadcast team, which really rose to the moment.

[Stugats Member 2]

Here they're up three, and Wemby decides

[Dan Le Batard]

he's going to shoot from the logo.

[Stugats Member 2]

And here's the OKC call.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Wembanyama has a left wing Castle the trolling. Wemby, leaning 30 foot, three to tie, is in there. 26.3 to play.

[Tony]

It's in there. You're a little possessed.

[Stugats Member 2]

The best moment of the basketball season called by the OKC radio team is in there.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

26.3 to play.

[Greg Cody]

It's like he didn't even call it.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's correct.

[Stugats Member 2]

That is why it is the greatest call in sports history.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Left wing Castle Controlling WEMBY, leaning 30 foot, three to tie, is in there 36.3 to play.

[Stugats Member 1]

Casually says a 30 foot three to tie.

[Greg Cody]

Understatement.

[Zaslow]

Best moment of the season.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Wembanyama has a left wing castle patrolling. Wemby leaning 30 foot three to tie. Is in there. 26.3 to play.

[Stugats Member 2]

Listen. Listen to the crowd. Just listen after he says it's in there. Just that crowd stood for the first three and a half minutes of that game longer than they've stood all season because they do not. They do not sit until the first basket is scored and they were down early and they didn't score for three and a half minutes. This right here is exactly how you would call it. First quarter, game nine against the Pelicans.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Wembanyama has a left wing castle patrolling. Wembley leaning 30 foot 3 to tie. Is in there 26, 6.3 to play.

[Stugats Member 4]

Do a sponsorship after that, right?

[Stugats Member 2]

Just isolate for me the crowd noise. Go ahead and play the whole thing again. Just so that you could hear what it sounds like when a defending champion crowd gets punched in the stomach.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Has a left wing castle patrolling. Wemby leaning 30 foot three to tie. Is in there 26.3 to play.

[Stugats Member 2]

They're so deflated.

[Dan Le Batard]

And you do have to take it from the championship. Like you have to take it from them. They are exceptional. And he went in there and took it from them. And then after the game, Wembanyama's post game on.

[Stugats Member 2]

When he's asked a very long question, his answer made it so that he can't get aggregated. Saying the cocky thing they're not going to be able to put in headlines. Wemby says that he was bothered by SGA winning the mvp.

[Interviewer]

Just curious if that was in your mind at all, knowing that Shea had got that award and you were in the top three for it and you know, did any part of tonight feel personal? Some of your facial expressions kind of look like you were really, really going for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said. Go ahead and quote him on that.

[Stugats Member 2]

Yeah, for sure.

[Dan Le Batard]

Everything you just said.

[Tony]

He's kind of got a cartoon monster voice, right? Kind of like a Calais Campbell light. Listen to it again.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's. I don't think he's got a friendly Giant's voice. Let's see if he's got a Calais Campbell voice here.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Fac.

[Interviewer]

Kind of look like you were really, really going for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, for sure. Everything you just said.

[Stugats Member 2]

Little bit.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

A little nasal undercurrent of a pituitary problem.

[Tony]

Like a young. Like a younger Calais Campbell. Like a little smaller monster. Even though he's taller monster, but smaller.

[Zaslow]

So last night was. It was like Robinson, Olajuwon, right? It felt like 1995, where Western Conference final Rocket, spurs. And everyone knew Olajuon was best player in the league now because Michael Jordan wasn't around. And, well, actually he returned earlier that season, but David Robinson won mvp and Elijah was like, yeah, I'm going to destroy you.

[Dan Le Batard]

And the Rockets swept him that game last night. Under those circumstances, that person can run the league for 10 years. And I really do want to ask this question on the poll at LeBatard show WEMBY going to ruin the league or going to save it? What's your answer on that one?

[Stugats Member 3]

Can it be both?

[Dan Le Batard]

Put up.

[Stugats Member 2]

Put both. Make that the third answer. But. Make that the third answer, but gonna ruin the league. Gonna save the league. And can it be both? Just put can it be both as one of the questions.

[Greg Cody]

Why do we always pretend like we hate a dynasty? A dynasty is great for sports, no matter the sport, whether it's the Yankees or the Lakers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nah, unfair.

[Stugats Member 2]

Unfair. Look what the Dodgers are doing.

[Dan Le Batard]

It feels unfair, but baseball can make it random in this sport. The best guy being 7 3. Look, this is.

[Stugats Member 2]

I got. I don't want to lose sight of this just because you've been watching Wemby

[Dan Le Batard]

for a couple of years.

[Stugats Member 2]

It's as ridiculous as watching Shaq do it. Like, it doesn't make sense that that person's pulling up from 30ft. That's just total nonsense. My entire history watching basketball, the 7 foot 3 guy only takes that shot if they're out of time and someone got him the ball by accident at

[Dan Le Batard]

the end of the game.

[Stugats Member 2]

That's not. It's just not a smart shot. Are we in agreement on that? Do you guys disagree with that?

[Tony]

It's a two for one situation. So he's trying to get the ball up as fast as he can to get the rebound if they do have to foul. Or they can wait a little bit to try and get some more time on the back end of Oklahoma City.

[Stugats Member 2]

Yeah, but you can go for two. Like, you can start the foul game. You guys think that was a good shot?

[Stugats Member 3]

There are no bad shots if you're the greatest basketball player who's ever lived.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Dan, 30 foot three to tie is in there.

[Stugats Member 3]

He is. He already is. This is just like Shohei Ohtani. You ask the question of is this going to save the league or is it going to ruin the league? Just like Shohei, it can save the league because there is this freak of nature that you're watching and you know already early in their career, it doesn't matter what the actual career looks like. That's the greatest player of that sport that has ever lived. He might not have six, seven, eight championships, but what he is doing, what he does on a basketball floor is more impressive than anyone who's ever done it. Forget Jordan, forget LeBron. Victor Wembanyama is the greatest basketball player who's ever lived. Just like Shohei Ohtani was immediately the greatest baseball player who's ever lived.

[Greg Cody]

I don't disagree with you, but I think that consensus is going to take another five years or so. But I will say womenyama to get to that level greater than Jordan level has to make a shot like that. Even if you call it a bad shot. That has to go in to form the myth and the legend of this.

[Stugats Member 2]

I don't, I don't want to do

[Dan Le Batard]

that particular hyperventilation today only because also in my entire life, that player always gets hurt. Like that player that size trying to do that sport that's breaking all of

[Stugats Member 2]

the other players who aren't that size. If he gets hurt, you're going to

[Dan Le Batard]

seem ridiculous saying that that's the best

[Stugats Member 2]

player who ever lived.

[Dan Le Batard]

When Michael Jordan won six titles and we just got done watching LeBron, we

[Stugats Member 3]

did say the same thing about Shohei Ohtani. And then he had Tommy John surgery and was the first 5050 season ever.

[Greg Cody]

That's why I say it's going to take five years for Wembley. Let him stay healthy, let him win a couple of championships and then, then that's a conversation.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't actually want to do that conversation just yet. I do want to marvel at what it is that we're see in real time though, because he can break the game over his knee. What I just told you, those numbers on the defending champion when he went

[Stugats Member 2]

to the bench, they did what they

[Dan Le Batard]

wanted to in the paint and at the rim, they.

[Stugats Member 2]

They were very high percentage in the few minutes that he sat down. And how about this stat right here?

[Dan Le Batard]

The spurs since February 1, when Wemby plays more than 50, 15 minutes in a game, 37 and 3. When Baya.

[Stugats Member 2]

37 and 3. That is on pace to be better

[Dan Le Batard]

than the Golden State warriors were for that season that they won 73 games, they. And that's just him playing 15 minutes. He alters everything in a way that is hugely unfair. We can agree on that. But we can also enjoy it for

[Stugats Member 2]

a while before we talk about how

[Dan Le Batard]

it is that it's going to Be unfair going forward because it's it. I understand that it is just one game, but he couldn't have made a louder statement in the one game.

[Zaslow]

There aren't a lot of games that I'm watching anymore, especially in bed. Lights are off, it's real quiet because my wife's sleeping where it doesn't involve my favorite team. And like, I'm gasping at what's going on in the game.

[Stugats Member 1]

It's rare that a game that's around midnight and I'm like, give me more. I'm like, I gotta go to bed, but this is fun.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want to ask you guys, do you find it in any way disorienting that he. For example, I know this isn't among

[Stugats Member 2]

all the things from last night.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is not one that people are going to concentrate on very much, but I believe he was 12 of 13 from the line and Duncan Robinson was 75% this year from the line. So Wemby's like an 80 something percent shooter from the line. He's like 85% from the free throw.

[Zaslow]

I kept waiting for him to miss one of these monster free throws that he was shooting in the fourth or in overtime or in the second overtime and just making all of them.

[Stugats Member 2]

He's playing more minutes than he's ever played and scoring all the points in the second overtime. And the Thunder were feeling real good about themselves when Holmgren blocks his shot at the end of regulation, right? They were feeling that that arena was feeling it.

[Zaslow]

Such a great play.

[Stugats Member 2]

And yet how about the sinking feeling in your stomach when you have that

[Dan Le Batard]

play and you realize, oh, he's just checked.

[Stugats Member 2]

Like, our guy is named Chet and he's pretty good for size. I'd really like.

[Stugats Member 1]

Needs a better name.

[Stugats Member 2]

You're right, he's pretty.

[Stugats Member 1]

He's Chaz. If it was Chaz, we would think he's so much better.

[Stugats Member 2]

I think that that play gets diminished because his name is Chet. It was a wonderful play at the end of regulation, but when your name is Chet.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on now.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. No, Chet's.

[OKC Radio Announcer]

Put her on the poll.

[Dan Le Batard]

Arthur, any black chats?

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don Levotard.

[Greg Cody]

I want to address Tony and all men who would wear that shirt in public.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats don't do it.

[Zaslow]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugats Member 1]

I think the only chad is Chet Stedman from the Rocket.

[Stugats Member 4]

Rookie of the year.

[Greg Cody]

There used to be a great chat in the NBA. I can't think of his last name.

[Stugats Member 2]

He couldn't have been that great. If you can't think he was a bull.

[Greg Cody]

Help me out.

[Stugats Member 1]

You find it?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah. Feel free.

[Greg Cody]

I'm gonna find it.

[Stugats Member 2]

Thank you, Chris. Start doing that to your. Start doing that.

[Greg Cody]

I'm gonna find it right now.

[Stugats Member 3]

Chet Walker.

[Greg Cody]

I think that's true.

[Stugats Member 1]

Well, you couldn't.

[Dan Le Batard]

You couldn't.

[Stugats Member 2]

Remember his last verify that.

[Greg Cody]

He was pretty good.

[Stugats Member 3]

Seven time all star.

[Greg Cody]

Hello.

[Stugats Member 3]

1967 NBA champion. Played from the for the Bulls from 69 to 75.

[Zaslow]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Validated.

[Stugats Member 2]

Let's do a movie with your father.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, no catchphrases. Okay.

[Stugats Member 1]

Welcome back to Greg trying to name movie lines. Here's our first one of the day.

[Stugats Member 3]

It's simple.

[Stugats Member 1]

We play a movie line and you guess the movie. Greg, Here we go.

[P]

What's in the box? What's in the box?

[Greg Cody]

I have no idea.

[Dan Le Batard]

Come on.

[Greg Cody]

How am I gonna know that?

[Zaslow]

The same way that everyone listening knows

[P]

what's in the box. What's in the box?

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you know the voice? Do you recognize the voice? It's Brad Pitt. Does it help you at all to know that it's Brad Pitt?

[Stugats Member 1]

We can give him so many. It's also Morgan Freeman. We can give him a lot of details here.

[Greg Cody]

Freeman has a distinctive voice. Pitt. No.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, I'll give you and spoiler alert. I'll give you an even bigger clue at the end of the movie. It's the only one where Gwyneth Paltrow's head ends up in a box.

[P]

What's in the box? What's in the box?

[Stugats Member 1]

It's her head. And I hope people listen to that. Spoiler alert.

[Greg Cody]

Okay. Her head's in a box.

[Tony]

It's been 30 years.

[Stugats Member 1]

That's true.

[Zaslow]

Not attached to her body.

[Stugats Member 2]

Brad Pitt in that movie, he got

[Dan Le Batard]

put in his contract. He loved the script so much that they were not allowed to change the ending.

[Stugats Member 2]

So many executives tried to change the

[Dan Le Batard]

ending of that movie because people do not want dark.

[Stugats Member 2]

They don't want to leave the theater.

[Zaslow]

It's pretty dark.

[Stugats Member 2]

Oh, my God.

[Greg Cody]

Wow. The. The name of the movie is the Open Neck. Wasn't a joke. You chop your head off, what are you left with?

[Dan Le Batard]

The name of the movie.

[Stugats Member 2]

Seven Is Seven.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

What does that. It doesn't make any sense. Why is it called seven?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's the seven deadly Sins. It's a movie about the seven deadly sins.

[Greg Cody]

Name the other six.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what do you mean? Seven is not one of the seven like Christians.

[Stugats Member 2]

What do you mean the others? There are seven?

[Tony]

Your biblical knowledge is not great, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

It isn't. I haven't read the Bible in a day and a half.

[Stugats Member 2]

Let's see if we can do this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Gluttony. Lust.

[Stugats Member 2]

Pride.

[Zaslow]

The last one there was wrath.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greed.

[Stugats Member 2]

Wrath.

[Greg Cody]

Wrath.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sloth. Sloth. We're missing one. We're missing one of the deadly sins.

[Greg Cody]

Envy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ah, thank you.

[Stugats Member 2]

Nicely done. It's not with a question mark, but, yes. Envy is envy.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Stugats Member 2]

Those are the seven deadly sins.

[Greg Cody]

They don't sound that deadly to me.

[Tony]

They are.

[Greg Cody]

I think they're indicative.

[Zaslow]

Her head was in a box, Greg.

[Greg Cody]

I know. Now that's a deadly sin right there.

[P]

What's in the box?

[Greg Cody]

You're gonna murder somebody, at least do it politely anyway. So I got that wrong. You could give me 100 of those questions. I wouldn't get any right. 7.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, give him another one.

[Stugats Member 2]

Let's give him another movie question here.

[Stugats Member 1]

All right, here's the next one.

[Greg Cody]

I do like that theme song.

[Dan Le Batard]

We are back.

[Stugats Member 4]

We are getting Doug back.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, somebody's screaming, we're getting Doug back.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Greg Cody]

Who's screaming that.

[Stugats Member 1]

I can give you a little bit more here.

[Greg Cody]

I did.

[Stugats Member 1]

I did this this time, Dan, to give him a little help. We can add on to the line a little bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

We are back. We are back. We are getting Doug back.

[Zaslow]

And we're the three best friends that anybody could have.

[Greg Cody]

I have no Idea. Seriously.

[Dan Le Batard]

So what is the. What is the best comedy. What is the best movie you have seen in the last, I don't know, 15 years that you would say in comedy? The most famous comedy of the last 15 years. 15 years.

[Greg Cody]

The one where what's his name from SNL plays an anchorman.

[Tony]

Anchorman.

[Greg Cody]

Anchorman. Was that the name of it?

[Stugats Member 1]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. That was a great. Now, I'm sure the way time flies. I'm sure that was more than 15 years ago, but that's what I think of when I think of a great movie. The one with Anchorman, it is.

[Stugats Member 2]

We will do more movies in a second.

[Stugats Member 1]

It's the Hangover with the Hangover.

[Greg Cody]

Really?

[Dan Le Batard]

You know the movie, right?

[Greg Cody]

I've heard of it, sure. Yeah. Who's in that? Oh, yeah.

[Stugats Member 1]

You name any of the guys?

[Greg Cody]

Galifianicis or whatever his name is?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, close enough.

[Greg Cody]

Handsome guy in the middle.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

And guy with no tooth.

[Dan Le Batard]

And Zippy and the Juice.

[Greg Cody]

So I got one of them. I got one of the four.

[Dan Le Batard]

There are a number of things to get to, both nationally and locally, but I did want. You wrote a column about Lionel Messi, and I heard this said the other day, and I hadn't considered it, but it was, I guess, fairly obvious. The messy transaction. The Inter Miami Messi transaction is the greatest thing to happen in the history of American soccer. Right. I mean, second place might be Pele coming to the cosmos in the 70s, but there is no argument on Messi coming to Inter Miami is, by leaps and bounds, the greatest thing to happen to American soccer.

[Stugats Member 2]

You're a soccer expert. You've been covering soccer locally and nationally

[Dan Le Batard]

for half a century. You would not dispute that, correct?

[Greg Cody]

No. I mean, back in the 70s, when the NASL was blowing up and it was big for a finite time, it wasn't just Pele. They had friends. Beckenbauer from Germany. There were a number of international stars, albeit late in their career. Georgie Best from England was another one.

[Dan Le Batard]

But Beckham, Zlatan, both of them did big things, Right.

[Greg Cody]

More recently, David Beckham was considered the guy who was going to be the face of mls. But now, yeah, there's no comparison. Messi is on a level all his own. And so the idea that, I don't know if you want to get into what the fans did, but the idea that the fans would not be satisfied just being able to watch Messi on a field and need more from him is absurd. It's just totally absurd. Messi, the way I would put it, is nobody in the history of South Florida sports. You can say Dan Marino in his prime. You can say LeBron James. Nothing compares with Messi in terms of what has happened in this market. LeBron James has. Has about 140 million Instagram followers. Messi has 504 million, more than a half a billion in. He's incomparable. He's. He's the greatest thing. He's lifted the entire sport in this country, not to mention an entire league.

[Dan Le Batard]

I would say LeBron is comparable, I don't think. When you say there's no comparison. I think LeBron being the best of his time and among the best of all time, being here for four years in a sport that locally people care about as much. I'm not going to say more because we've got such a Latin population down here that cares about soccer, but the. The Miami Heat people locally here care as much about that as people locally care about soccer.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, but nationally, the NBA is not even the most popular sport in America and globally, LeBron James cannot hold a candle to Messi, who is a true international star on a level.

[Dan Le Batard]

What did you write about today? What did you write? What was your column about today in the Miami Herald?

[Greg Cody]

The column was an unabashed appreciation of Lionel Messi, who is as good. He's about to turn 39. He scored at least a goal and an assist in four straight games. I'm not saying he's as good as he's ever been, but he's still good on a level that can compete in South America and in Europe. And that's why he's, again, barring anything unforeseen, he's going to lead reigning champion Argentina into the World Cup. Again, it's just an appreciation of Messi, and especially. Especially in the context of at the last home game where the La Familia fan groups staged a protest because they weren't getting enough love from the players. And my problem with that is, in the first four games at the new stadium, they had three disappointing ties to lesser teams, and then they had a blown lead loss against rival Orlando City. No fan in any sport is going to be in a mood to go, hey, lie to the fans after those four results. So they finally win a game Saturday night, and the Fans protest for 85 minutes by remaining silent. And I think that it's not about you, fans. It's not about you. You got Messi on the field. Appreciate what you've got.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, let me quibble just slightly, okay? Because I think, please look this up for me to see. If I have the numbers on this right, but since turning 38, I believe Messi has 76 goal contributions in 46 games. And the only reason I would quibble with you on the Messi LeBron comparison is because LeBron is actually doing it against the best in the world. And Messi's not like it's clear that Messi's better than these people he's playing against. It's often clear. But he's not playing against the best people in the world. He's playing against MLS competition. And it shows because you shouldn't be able to put other up those particular numbers at 38. And he wouldn't in the Premier League,

[Stugats Member 2]

he wouldn't be able to have that many. I think I've got the numbers right, but you could look it up for me since third. So. So since turning 38, he's contributed to 76 goals in 46 games. That's.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not against the premier competition in the world.

[Greg Cody]

Well, but it's. It's. He got to 100 combined goals and assists 30 games faster than anybody else had in MLS. He had to do what he's doing to prove how great he still is, which is dominate mls. And keep in mind, when he came here slightly less than three years ago, a lot of people thought he was washed. A lot of people thought this was a goat out to pasture. He was coming here to retire, he was going to go through the motions and be pretty good. No, he's been astoundingly good. And he's dominated this league in a way that I think verifies how great he is still on an international level, not just an American level.

[Dan Le Batard]

Getting back to Wembanyama from last night and the taking of that game from the champions. Wembaya playing on the road and the spurs are not nearly as deep. De' Aaron Fox is the one that's supposed to close those games for them. That's what they got him for. And he didn't even play in the game. So the number of minutes logged by the spurs in that game was a lot different than what the Thunder do with all of their depth.

[Stugats Member 1]

It does seem like we are just because of how great he is going to let him have one bad game with sga because we haven't even mentioned him all hour. And he was pretty bad last night, right?

[Stugats Member 2]

Oh, but I.

[Dan Le Batard]

But this is the thing, though. This, this. I've been clamoring this for this for so long, Chris. I am so frustrated, okay? Especially when I see what Stephen A. Smith is doing with Jalen Brown and an assortment of others. That is a grotesque distort of why it is we got into this business to be threatening Jaylen Brown. We have turned sports argument into who can we blame? Who can we blame? Who can we blame? Last night is just, nope, that guy's great. And we just rarely get to do that one anymore. I do think SGA is going to

[Stugats Member 2]

skate, but it's not because he was merely terrible. He was made terrible by what they

[Dan Le Batard]

have in the middle of the paint.

[Stugats Member 2]

We can get into the larger discussion of whether that's going to ruin the league because he can make anybody look like that. SGA is obviously great at what he does, and the fact that someone 7 foot 3 is in the paint to alter everything to make Chet Holmgren look small makes it so that the game gets totally distorted by a size advantage.

[Tony]

It's not only him protecting the paint, it's also the spurs and Mitch Johnson doing an incredible job blitzing him. The moment he passes half court, right, they'll send two defenders. And that's why Caruso was able to get all these open shots and open threes, because they're like, oh, right, we'd rather have Caruso shoot the three than sga, be able to get downhill and create offense when he gets to his spots at the elbow, at the low post and stuff like that. So, like, yeah, he missed a lot of shots, but they were playing defensively a great game against him.

[Dan Le Batard]

I would expect because they play again tomorrow with those kinds of minutes logged that tomorrow will be different. And then they. They play again. I mean, they've got Friday and Sunday.

[Zaslow]

That's every other day, the whole series, I believe.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it's Friday and Sunday, but so

[Stugats Member 2]

far, Amin's not looking great. I think the Thunder are going to destroy them.