Jess Battles AI + Pablo Calls Method Man 'Method' | Hour 3

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: Jess Battles AI + Pablo Calls Method Man 'Method' | Hour 3
Date: May 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

This hour from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami revolves around the show's fun mix of sports and pop culture, centering on everything from AI's impact on society and sports media to hilarious side convos about snacks, Method Man's nickname etiquette, and the existential nature of snack categories. Jessica Smetana joins Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the rest of the crew for a lively segment grappling with how AI is reshaping the world—especially for young people—while the team’s trademark banter threads through topics both silly and serious.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ownership, Pulitzers, and Partial Credit

• The crew jokes about their tenuous (or, in some cases, technically real) connection to a Pulitzer Prize thanks to the success at Meadowlark.
  • Greg Cody equates his fractional horse-racing ownership to being in the “winner’s circle” if the horse wins—leading to playful claims about Pulitzer glory.
  • Chris Cody texts his wife, claiming he’s a Pulitzer winner on Dan’s orders, prompting quick, skeptical, and humor-filled replies from spouses.
  • Memorable Quote

    "If I own 2.5, if I own the right ear of a racehorse that wins the Kentucky Derby, I'm going to be at that racetrack in the winner's circle because I'm entitled to." — Greg Cody (00:19)

2. Wrong Text Etiquette & "Fumbly" Linguistics

• Dan receives a misdirected text about someone “not being their sharpest,” leading to a mini-CSI investigation about who says “fumbly” and whether Trista, a recent guest, could be the culprit.
  • Playful speculation on generational and gendered slang ensues.
  • Notable Quotes

    "There's only one person in your life who uses the word 'fumbly.' Who is that person?" — Greg Cody (02:15)
    "Fumbly to me sounds like something like Greg's demo would say." — Jessica (02:58)

3. Basket Weaving Clichés & Truth, AI, and College

• Jessica and Dan break down how college sports coaches (specifically Sark and Lane Kiffin) use clichés like “basket weaving” both in shots at rivals and as a proxy for easy academic courses.
  • Tony references Rutgers’ actual “underwater basket weaving” rec class, sparking jokes and hand-wringing over fact vs. fiction in internet research.
  • Memorable Quote & Segment

    "Every time I check the Internet, I'm having trouble with this. And it doesn't make me feel secure..." — Dan Le Batard (05:51)

4. AI, College Cheating, and the Booed Commencement Speaker

• The group discusses a viral clip of UCF’s commencement speaker, Gloria Caulfield, getting booed for mentioning AI as the next industrial revolution.
  • Jessica critiques the speaker for misreading her anxious, AI-threatened young audience.
  • Greg Cody grapples with the contradiction of students booing AI while likely using it to cheat.
  • Jessica emphasizes the creative and environmental downsides of AI, especially in media, and rising youth backlash.
  • Key Quotes & Timestamps

    "This woman's name is Gloria Caulfield ... she clearly did not do a good job of reading the room." — Jessica (09:57) "None of us really knows how to react to AI right now. We all have mixed feelings, right? Like, like, morally, ethically. I hate AI because it's taking hundreds of thousands of jobs at the same time..." — Greg Cody (10:44) "A image made by a computer doesn’t really make me feel anything. Like you could input anything into it and get that thing. And that doesn’t mean that it’s art." — Jessica (13:09) "Once they get to the point of being able to get us to care about characters, they will eliminate the movie stars..." — Dan Le Batard (16:49)

5. Lane Kiffin, College Football, and Social Backlash

• Jessica unpacks Lane Kiffin’s controversial Vanity Fair quote about racist perceptions of Oxford, Mississippi and the realities of recruiting.
  • The group debates whether Kiffin should have acted during his coaching tenure, or if he’s stirring the pot post-facto for his own benefit.
  • Highlight Quote

    "If he's concerned that grandparents are actually... change the racist roots of Oxford, Mississippi, that's what he's getting paid for." — Dan Le Batard (21:19) "He volunteered these comments to a reporter." — Jessica (21:29)

6. Mango Sticky Rice, Snack Orders, and Culinary Confessions

• Jessica and Chris lovingly share stories about ordering just dessert for takeout (specifically mango sticky rice).
  • The gang riff on whether certain foods (sticky rice, snacks, chips) truly belong in their alleged categories, descending into a debate over “Hall of Fame” snacks and chip taxonomy.
  • Memorable Snippet

    "Last night, I was walking the dog with Lehman, and I was like, I'm really in the mood for dessert, but specifically mango sticky rice..." — Jessica (23:55)

7. Pablo Torre’s Faux Pas: Calling Method Man "Method"

• Dan reveals his horror as Pablo Torre repeatedly refers to Method Man as "Method" in a group text—something that seems deeply uncool and tone-deaf.
  • The crew debates proper nomenclature ("Meth," "Method Man," "Mr. Man"—but never "Method").
  • Standout Quotes

    "I believe that people either call him Meth or Method Man or Mr. Man or Clifford ... I don't think anyone's calling him Method." — Dan Le Batard (25:35)
    "Pablo sometimes needs to feel like, oh, I need to be proper, and I need to be Harvard. ... Have you ever heard anybody call (him) Meth?" — Chris Cody (26:19)

8. Pop Culture Trivia: "E.T." and Candy Debates

• Greg Cody identifies an edited movie quote as "E.T. phone home," leading to banter on candies used in the film (Reese’s Pieces vs. M&Ms) and extended debate on snack Mount Rushmores.
  • Quote & Segment

    "Phone. Home. Home. Home. ... It's E.T., okay?" — Greg Cody (33:00–33:16)

9. Chips, Puffs, and Snack Taxonomies

• The hour closes with a mock-serious argument over what constitutes a chip versus a puff or pretzel, and which snacks deserve hall-of-fame status.
  • Multiple polls and lightning-round opinions about chip subcategories:
    • Are Fritos chips or something else?
    • Does cheese doodle count as a chip or just a puff?
    • "Potato" pronunciation wars courtesy of Greg’s family.
  • Quote

    "I'm trying to make everything not a chip, call it a snack." — Dan Le Batard (38:44)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• “If I own the right ear of a racehorse that wins the Kentucky Derby, I’m going to be at that racetrack in the winner’s circle because I’m entitled to.” — Greg Cody (00:19)

• "There's only one person in your life who uses the word 'fumbly.' Who is that person?" — Greg Cody (02:15)

• "Every time I check the Internet, I'm having trouble with this. And it doesn't make me feel secure..." — Dan Le Batard (05:51)

• "...they clearly did not do a good job of reading the room..." — Jessica (09:57)

• "None of us really knows how to react to AI right now. We all have mixed feelings, right?" — Greg Cody (10:44)

• "A image made by a computer doesn't really make me feel anything. ... And that doesn’t mean that it’s art." — Jessica (13:09)

• "Once they get to the point of being able to get us to care about characters, they will eliminate the movie stars..." — Dan Le Batard (16:49)

• Regarding Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss:

  • "If he's concerned that grandparents are actually... change the racist roots of Oxford, Mississippi, that's what he's getting paid for." — Dan Le Batard (21:19)
  • "He volunteered these comments to a reporter." — Jessica (21:29)

• "Last night, I was walking the dog with Lehman, and I was like, I’m really in the mood for dessert, but specifically mango sticky rice..." — Jessica (23:55)

• “I believe that people either call him Meth or Method Man or Mr. Man or Clifford … I don’t think anyone’s calling him Method.” — Dan Le Batard (25:35)

• "Phone. Home. Home. Home. ... It's E.T., okay?" — Greg Cody (33:00*)

• “I’m trying to make everything not a chip, call it a snack.” — Dan Le Batard (38:44)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–03:30: Pulitzer jokes, wrong text, "fumbly" investigation
• 04:00–06:00: Basket weaving in college sports, AI confusion, truth in the internet age
• 08:00–11:30: AI and cheating in college, UCF speaker gets booed
• 13:00–18:00: Creative jobs, AI backlash, environmental impact of AI
• 19:00–23:00: Lane Kiffin, race and recruiting in Oxford vs. Baton Rouge
• 23:30–24:50: Dessert takeout, mango sticky rice delight
• 25:00–27:56: Method Man nickname faux pas, group text etiquette
• 33:00–36:00: E.T. quote, Reese’s Pieces debate, snack hall of fame discussion
• 36:30–39:30: Snack and chip taxonomy; what belongs in "Mount Rushmore" of snacks

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Tone & Style Notes

• Irreverent and Self-Deprecating: Classic Dan Le Batard Show blend of clever, whip-fast wit with genuine cultural critique.
• Conversational & Playful: Stream-of-consciousness humor on minor topics (snacks, nicknames) balances heavier reflections on AI, race, and sports culture.
• Cultural Commentary with Comedic Twist: Even serious topics are filtered through the group's joking, performative camaraderie.

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Takeaways for Listeners

This episode exemplifies the Le Batard Show’s signature ability to jump from light-hearted nonsense ("Mount Rushmore of Chips") to sharply observed discussions about AI’s encroachment on the workforce and the ethical ambiguity surrounding the technology. If you’re new to the show, expect both thoughtful analysis and absurdist, almost Seinfeldian debates about everyday minutiae, always with the warmth of a South Florida family gathering (and an appropriate dose of mockery for anyone who calls Method Man "Method").

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugach podcast.

[Greg Cody]

So Dan and I, during the break, were further discussing the whole idea that anyone with an ownership stake in Meadowlog should feel proud of having won or been a part of the Pulitzer Prize. And I have to admit, I've come around to it because I asked Dan, I used an example. I own 2.5% of a racehorse. If my racehorse wins the Kentucky Derby, can I say that I'm a part of that? And he said, yeah, absolutely. And you know what? Damn it, he's right. If I own 2.5, if I own the right ear of a racehorse that wins the Kentucky Derby, I'm going to be at that racetrack in the winner's circle because I'm entitled to. So there.

[Chris Cody]

I just texted my wife. Babe, I want you to know Dan wants me to tell you that I'm a Pulitzer Prize winner. I'm going to update you on what she tells me.

[Tony]

Nice.

[Dan Le Batard]

I will talk to Jessica about this in a second. I'll text my wife as well. I also want some advice from you guys. I'm surprised your wife is talking to you. The text here that I just got, I'm wondering how you guys would respond to this because the text reads, I was not my sharpest self this morning, so if it came across fumbly, I apologize. This text is not meant for me. I don't know who this is. This is not something that I had as an interaction this morning. Do I just make this person feel bad by saying wrong number? Are they gonna feel extra worse cuz their message, their apology is not getting wherever it is that they want it to get?

[Tony]

I like this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, do you have any advice for me here on what I do here? What do I write back to this person to not make them feel already worse than they do? But I don't think I should ignore it because if I ignore it, they're not gonna get their apology where it was meant to.

[Jessica]

How well do you know this person?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know. I don't. I don't have any relationship with this. Now I would say real fast, think about everyone you've spoken to today. Do you have all their numbers saved? I didn't have an interaction this morning that would require an apology from anybody. I'm just like, this is not a person I know. Just because she referenced seven. Trista was on with us earlier. Yeah, Chris is 7:30.

[Tony]

He's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, could this be a Trista number that you don't have?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I think the chances Are good. There's only one person in your life who uses the word fumbly. Who is that person?

[Dan Le Batard]

You guys think Trista had a bad segment? No, not at all. No, not at all.

[Tony]

We're trying to think whose number you might not have.

[Greg Cody]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm telling you, it's a wrong number. Okay. This is absolutely the wrong place that they sent this message. Now what do I do?

[Chris Cody]

Right back on them.

[Jessica]

I like. I like Greg's methodology here. Let's analyze who would say fumbly. What demographic do we think is saying fumbly? That certainly narrows it down.

[Tony]

Female.

[Dan Le Batard]

I could see Trista saying fumbly.

[Jessica]

Yeah, Fumbly to me sounds like something like Greg's demo would say.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fumbly does not sound gender specific to me. And I don't think we can profile based on demographics of a word.

[Tony]

They make mistakes.

[Greg Cody]

It does sound like an old person. Or a woman, if I'm being honest. Woman. There you go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes with Mike Golick Jr. I don't believe her. Bane makes an impersonation there. At least I have not heard it. Has misogynist Bane made an impersonate an impersonation there?

[Jessica]

Not yet, Dan, but there's always. There's always time. You never know. There's a lot going on in the college sports world this week that very little has to do with playing sports games.

[Dan Le Batard]

So, yeah, let's talk about some of that. So what happened here? How was. What was your take on Sark basically saying old Mrs. Dumb and doing so with the basket weaving cliche? I haven't heard in a while.

[Jessica]

I haven't heard that in a while. Where does that come from? I have not heard that in a very long time.

[Dan Le Batard]

And would it be an easy class we were discussing earlier? That would not. That doesn't sound like an easy class to me.

[Jessica]

He, like, unloaded to USA Today in this story. He was just going off about everything. This is the time of year where everyone has, like, the spring games are over and all the coaches. Coaches have way too much time on their hands. So they're all doing, like, podcasts. Like, Dabo went on Greg McElroy's podcast last week. Brian Kelly went on a podcast this past week and made a bunch of comments about using AI. And now you've got Lane Kiffin getting profiled by Vanity Fair. And this Sark, all these Sark comments about Ole Miss. He also took shots at Miami, Dan. I'm not sure if you saw that, but he said that Miami basically was making the argument that Miami shouldn't have made the College Football Playoff over Texas last year because Texas had more ranked wins than Miami did. So he was just sounding off about all of it. And my favorite part is obviously that Arch Manning is the quarterback at Texas. And I have a feeling that his. The Manning family's probably like, that's funny. Shots at a different SEC school. What are you doing?

[Dan Le Batard]

I hadn't. I hadn't considered that Eli Manning might be. Yeah, he's top two most famous player to ever play there. Is he not like.

[Jessica]

Or Archie.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, that too. That the Manning family cares. What about. What about the basket weaving portion of this and the underwater portion of this? Tony, did you have it right or did you get bad information from AI that Rutgers actually has an underwater basket weaving course? Because I find it hard to believe that they would do that as anything but a joke.

[Chris Cody]

It's. It's a wreck class that you can take with the scuba and aquarium situation over there at Rutgers.

[Tony]

That's the situation there it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's an aquarium.

[Chris Cody]

To go drive.

[Greg Cody]

Hold on.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, so. So instead of googling it, do you want me to get my ass in a car, drive to New Jersey, see if they have it at the scuba center, then drive back?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, Tony, I am simply frustrated with my old age. Inability to be able to tell what's true and what's not true with any level of discernment anymore. Because anytime I check the Internet, I'm having trouble with this. And it doesn't make me feel secure. It doesn't make me feel good about things. As I will say again, you know, polling suggests that one in four Americans think that we're staging presidential assassination attempts.

[Jessica]

Well, that one might not be because of AI.

[Chris Cody]

Reed College also in Portland, Oregon offers a light hearted, non credited course during its Padea Festival.

[Tony]

Why would anyone take a non credit hangout?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a lighthearted. It's a little light hearted, A little non credited.

[Jessica]

Some people want to learn how to do stuff. Zaz. What do you mean?

[Dan Le Batard]

Give me that.

[Jessica]

I wish I could go back to college and learn shit. You went to communicate. I would be way better at it this time.

[Tony]

No, I did not.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, thank you for that. Because everyone is now cheating their way through college, AI sees a disgust me. A what? Decline. What do you. What do you discuss me? Well, people are just using AI disgust me. She's like, disgust me what? That's my bad. I heard it wrong.

[Chris Cody]

Glad we stopped the show.

[Jessica]

You go back to here in class. Chris.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do I Get a credit. You think that she just decided to say to all of us, discuss me, discuss me. Now that is. That is the voice your dad has going on in his head at all times.

[Jessica]

But

[Tony]

minor penalty, two minutes delay a show.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

AI has made it. So that use of AI goes way down after college classes end because college students are absolutely devaluing everyone's diploma by cheating their way through school. People are now getting online diplomas in weeks because of their ability to do the work very quickly.

[Tony]

I feel like first Lakers or Cowboys?

[Chris Cody]

I think to Zaz's point, Alfonso Rivera's on first take, seeing who's going to win a title first, Lakers or Cowboys. Thank you for that.

[Tony]

That's important.

[Jessica]

That is pretty good.

[Dan Le Batard]

Next up is who is the NBA's goat with with Carlton. It's Wednesday as we head June.

[Greg Cody]

Amazing.

[Dan Le Batard]

And the sports content people are struggling to find things to talk about when all you got from a basketball Wednesday is some Wembley Wemby in a 30 point game. But let's go back to this. I think. Can you guys play for me the video of UCF's commencement speaker being booed for talking about AI? Because I want to talk with Jess about this AI movement and ethically what it is that we're supposed to do with it. Can go ahead and play that video, please.

[Jessica]

The rise of artificial intelligence is the next industrial revolution.

[Dan Le Batard]

What happened?

[Jessica]

Okay, I struck a chord. May I finish? Only a few years ago, AI was not a factor in our lives.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, your thoughts there? And just to clarify, I don't think that the presidential assassination attempts that it's merely AI that's doing that. I think our president's comfort generally with massaging facts on truth have been a greater part of the problem on what it is that's happening there.

[Jessica]

And like the media vacuum in general, Dan, I think is part of the problem. But yeah, this was at a UCF commencement ceremony. This woman's name is Gloria Caulfield. She's the vice president of strategic alliances at Orlando based Tavistock Development Company. She clearly did not do a good job of reading the room that a bunch of college grads who are probably very anxious about what jobs they're going to get after college because of the rise of AI and some of the insecurities with the workforce and AI replacing entry level jobs. Specifically how they were going to react to that. Instead of just saying, I'm going to. I'm going to skip ahead in my speech a little bit. She tried to keep going in that direction and they clearly did Not. They were not having it, Dan. So I thought that was a very funny reaction from the. From the students there.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, But Jessica, here's the thing. The same students who were booing what she said are probably using AI to take shortcuts through their college experience. And so my attitude is none of us really knows how to react to AI right now. We all have mixed feelings, right? Like, like, morally, ethically. I hate AI because it's taking hundreds of thousands of jobs at the same time. If I see something AI has created that's cute and funny, I'm pretty impressed with it. And I'm laughing, you know? You know what I'm saying?

[Jessica]

Well, I do know what you're saying. I think, first of all, I would hesitate to accuse, like, the entire student body of using AI to cheat on stuff because profess. And there's some AI slop from the video team right as we speak.

[Chris Cody]

That was an actual picture.

[Jessica]

I've talked to college professors who, like, they have tools that they have to use now to deploy to try to catch students, whether it's like, submitting papers into this thing that detects whether it's AI or not, or having students do more coursework in the classroom where they can't use their computers. There are also certain subjects where whether or not you use AI to cheat, you can't really cheat on it. You can't. I mean, I guess you could technically cheat on a lab report, but you have to actually do practical stuff in college sometimes where it's not that easy. So I would hesitate to say, like, they're all cheating their way through college, although certainly a lot of students do. But Greg, I think, like, where I net out on it, because, I mean, I talked to a ton of people who use it, and it saves them a ton of time in their jobs, whether they're doctors or, you know, working in some lawyers, whatever field where they need to write up a lot of things and assist them. But at least in my. In, like, the creative field and the media field, I think I. I don't like when it is taking away people's creative jobs. And I think there's just generally a rising backlash to people don't want to see AI advertisements. They don't want to see AI in television shows and in movies. They don't want it to see. They don't want, like, it doesn't. The shows that you watch that are made by people feel a certain way. Like, they feel like they're made by people. And I think that people are becoming better at Detecting when it's not. And that's where it sort of bothers me because there's more AI slot from the video department. It just like in the creative field want. I don't. A image made by a computer doesn't really make me feel anything. Like you could input anything into it and get that thing. And that doesn't mean that it's art.

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[Stugats]

Chris Cody, when you come over to my house and we put on the games, I got basketball, I got baseball going on. But what do I lay out for you and the boys for entertainment and drinking?

[Dan Le Batard]

Miller Line.

[Jessica]

Uh huh.

[Stugats]

Those beautiful white cans or on draft or the bottle if you prefer.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, when you open that with the can though, and you one of the

[Stugats]

best sounds on the planet. You pair that with the right game. You take that first sip, we both look around. It's not a bit.

[Dan Le Batard]

I have goosebumps thinking about the first sip.

[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugats]

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[Greg Cody]

I know it well.

[Chris Cody]

It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Stugats]

Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

[Dan Le Batard]

Walk in like this.

[Stugats]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Chris Cody]

It has that effect on people.

[Stugats]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's. It's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it, Cuervo.

[Greg Cody]

Keep it cuervo, baby.

[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard.

[Jessica]

Greg, how's your birthday going so far?

[Greg Cody]

I invented it. It's going fantastic. My wife and I are staying home tonight. We're watching the. The Debate on tv. We're gonna do something special for baby. It's a. It's a nice day for me so far.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats.

[Jessica]

That sounds like a. Not a super nice night. The debate.

[Stugats]

Old people love that shit.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, that's exactly right. Yeah, that's exactly right. Old people do love that shit. And I'm old now. I can't deny it anymore.

[Dan Le Batard]

Now this is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Oh. But as soon as they figure out, though, how to get people to care about the personality types is where it is, that that stuff will become harder. This is just the very, very primitive stages of this. Once they get to the point of being able to get us to care about characters, they will eliminate the movie stars and whatever it is that you think talent is like. Do you think that they cannot do that? You don't think that we're headed there.

[Jessica]

For an example, this video AI Slop of Zsasz as a member of the Blue man group funny banging on paint drums. I would not watch that. Would I watch Zaz being himself saying ridiculous shit on your show. Yes. And until AI can replicate that, which I think it's a very far, far away from doing, I'm not that interested in the AI slot version of.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, this, this department here that's in video is unethical and needs to have its Pulitzer stripped. Like whatever told you that.

[Jessica]

Not to mention, not to mention, like we haven't even gotten into the environmental impact of these tools and how much water they use and how terrible they are for the environment. And there have been polls done on younger people. They are more environmentally conscious than older people are. So I think that is part of it also where it's like, you're 22, you're graduating from college, you might not be able to get an entry level job somewhere because there's computers that are taking over these jobs. And at the same time, are you like concerned about what the future is going to look like in 20 years when you're an adult in the workforce, hopefully, and there's a famine or some sort of like horrible agricultural disaster because we've completely obliterated our crops from climate change anyways, Dan, you took us to this dark place and I didn't want to be here, but now I'm here and I think there's anxiety about that from young people as well.

[Dan Le Batard]

There should be anxiety about all of that. You mentioned the things going on in college football, Lane Kiffin's commentary in Vanity Fair where he basically just says, yeah, Oxford is racist. Your thoughts were what on what it is that mushroom clouded over that Vanity Fair article.

[Jessica]

Other thing, AI is never going to be able to replace a reporter talking to a college football coach and getting a reaction from them that that football coach, I believe regretted immediately after. If we're doing like interviews via chat bots or something like that. I don't think this reaction from Lane Kiffin is ever happening. I'm very curious what Greg thinks about this aspect of it. So I saw the quote that went viral from Lane Kiffin. I'll, I'll read it because you know, it's been aggregated a thousand times now. But he, he said that when he was coaching there. This is from the story in Vanity Fair. Kiffin says top recruits would tell him, hey coach, we really like you, but my grandparents aren't letting me move to Oxford, Mississippi. That doesn't come up. When you say Baton Rouge, Louisiana, parents were sitting here this weekend saying the campuses diversity feels so great. It Feels like there's no segregation, and we want that for our kid because that's the real world. And then this is part of the story parentheses. The next day, Kiffin added, I just hope my comment comes across respectful to Old Miss. There are some things I'm saying that are f. Actual. They're not shots. The population of bat. And then from the. From the reporter, the population of Baton Rouge is about 51% black and 36% white. Oxford is about 66% white and 26% black. So, Greg, I'm curious from your perspective, he's adding that in the next day. To me, like, when I first saw the quote, I was like, oh, he's a. He's a shit stir. He's full of shit. I don't doubt that this is a conversation that's actually happened with recruits because it sounds plausible, but him saying this is just him starting more shit with Ole Miss. But then when I saw that he added aside the next day, saying, I hope my comment is respectful, I was like, I think he's already regretting letting that one slide.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, he's responding to the reaction to what he said initially, but I don't think. I think there was plausibility to it. There was a feeling of truth to what he said. But, you know, my attitude is, why didn't he take action when he was the coach there to remedy that situation in a way that racism.

[Jessica]

Well, look, well, yeah, he's got, like, such a big problem with, like, racism, but he's still taking millions of dollars. Right, but to be the head coach there.

[Greg Cody]

But few people on any college campus have a bigger megaphone than the head football coach.

[Dan Le Batard]

What did you want him to do?

[Greg Cody]

I want him to do something like. Like if. If he's concerned that grandparents are actually

[Dan Le Batard]

saying, change the racist roots of Oxford, Mississippi, that's what he's getting paid for.

[Chris Cody]

Or is he getting paid to coach the offense?

[Greg Cody]

He's getting paid to coach the offense. But all I'm saying is if you're

[Jessica]

gonna say he volunteered, Tony, he volunteered these comments to a reporter.

[Chris Cody]

No, I agree. I agree. No, no, I understand.

[Dan Le Batard]

But.

[Chris Cody]

But to Greg's point, like, he's not getting paid millions of dollars to fix racism in. In Mississippi, nor can he.

[Greg Cody]

But if you're gonna say that stuff after the fact.

[Jessica]

Correct. No one's also forcing him to say,

[Greg Cody]

what are you doing about it during the real time when you're actually there in the middle of it? Is there anything to do about it? Or are you just saying, oh, sorry, Grandma, that you're wrong. That's not happening. We're not racing. I don't know. It's just do something then not.

[Tony]

Well, to Greg's point, I would assume that when. When those conversations were coming up, Lane Kiffin was probably giving a defense of Ole Miss and Oxford, and now he's certainly not willing to give that defense.

[Greg Cody]

Right? I mean, at the time, he wants the recruits after the fact, he can say, that's the reason why I left left. It's just weird, right?

[Jessica]

And furthermore, like, he's willing to take that shot now at LSU when he knows that he needs to have the recruiting advantage against Ole Miss. So this does benefit him to have the appearance that this is something that he cares about. I don't know if he genuinely died. He tweeted, like, a Make Baton Rouge great again hat, like, you know, a few months ago from his Twitter account and tagged Donald Trump in it. He doesn't seem. It doesn't seem like this is one of his pet causes, but I agree with Greg that it just. It rings as hollow. And then, of course, after this, like, lsu, you fans and Omis fans were having, like, a who's more racist off online. And in the meantime, Kurt Signetti was at the White House giving Donald Trump a Indiana jersey. So it was a really fun day on social media.

[Dan Le Batard]

In the meantime, check out her weekly Notre Dame podcast, the Echoes. This is not, not, not an echo. Echo chamber.

[Tony]

Fighting AI fighting Ultron Golock.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mike Golick Jr. Please stop using up the environment with that fake AI awfulness.

[Chris Cody]

Surprised that now you're getting in with the environment that's been sort of left and talked about for a long time.

[Greg Cody]

You had to hurt your left hand.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jessica, do you have any instances recently where you have gotten your fat on?

[Jessica]

Oh, do I? This is a. This is a question for Chris Cody. Chris, have you ever ordered takeout? But it's just dessert,

[Dan Le Batard]

Jess, you don't

[Chris Cody]

have to answer that, Chris.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes, I've done that.

[Jessica]

Last night. Last night, I was walking the dog with Lehman, and I was like, I'm really in the mood for dessert, but specifically mango sticky rice. And he's like, that sounds really good. And I was like, all right, I'll order two then, because you're not getting any of mine. So I put in an order, picked it up, and I went in there, and they were like, what's your order? And I was like, just two mango sticky rices. And the people were like, like, it. It kind of seems like it Happens all the time. But I've never done that before, so felt kind of proud of myself.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is mango sticky rice? Color me intrigued.

[Jessica]

You've never had Chris.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, I'm just. Me and Tony were like. It doesn't sound like a dessert.

[Greg Cody]

No, it doesn't.

[Jessica]

No. It's sticky rice with, like, sweetened condensed milk and sweet mangoes. It's so good. And it's like warm rice. It's so good.

[Dan Le Batard]

They have it down here.

[Chris Cody]

Thai food.

[Jessica]

It is Thai food. You should come back, Crazy Chris, next time you come to New York, because I know you love New York City so much.

[Dan Le Batard]

I do.

[Jessica]

I'll show you some spots. All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you, Jessica. Appreciate the time.

[Jessica]

Nope, there it is. I wonder if that's real mango sticky rice or AI generated mango sticky rice.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a good question. I'm gonna have to have a conversation with the video department. I'm also gonna have to have a conversation with Pablo Torre, who is presently and consistently embarrassing me on a text string with Method Man. I want you guys. Pablo is infringing on a friendship of mine because he wants Method man to help him do something next week in New York. That's not the part that I'm objecting to. I am watching again and again as Pablo refers to Method man as Method.

[Greg Cody]

Oof.

[Dan Le Batard]

And I just don't think anyone calls him that. I don't. I believe that people either call him Meth or method man or Mr. Man. I. Or Mr. Man or Clifford or Clifford. I don't think anyone's calling him Method. Do I have this incorrect? I've only ever heard him called Meth. So do I have it wrong when I'm looking at this and I keep seeing meth is not correct. Method is not correcting him. But I think he should be, because I don't think anyone refers to man as Method Man. This wasn't a text string. It would be like, M E T H O D Man.

[Chris Cody]

Pablo sometimes needs to. Needs to feel like, oh, I need to be proper, and I need to be Harvard. And like, Method is such a weird thing, because I get it's like Method man, but, like, have you heard a Wu Tang song before? Do you know his work? Do you understand who this is? Have you ever heard anybody call me?

[Dan Le Batard]

And I feel like men. Meth is friendly. Like, what up, Meth? But it's also what everyone calls him, right? Like, in fact, more people call him Meth than Method man. And no one calls him Clifford. But I'd be less embarrassed by Clifford. Than I am by method. I'm embarrassed by method. I'm embarrassed. Hello, Method. But I'm not embarrassed on his behalf. But I'm also embarrassed on my behalf because I allowed all of this to happen. I did not separate these two things. And it's ultimately my fault that he's embarrassing me. But I need to step in here, do I not? I need to step in on a different string and tell him to stop doing that. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

You need to mention something. Did he say the thing of, like, hey, can I call you xyz?

[Dan Le Batard]

No.

[Chris Cody]

He went straight.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's done it, like seven times already. He just. It keeps coming up. Yeah, it's not. I don't think it's right. It. It certainly doesn't sound right to me.

[Greg Cody]

How about just, hey, man. Yeah, hey, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Capitalize. Capitalize the man. You got to capitalize the man. Got capitalize. Hey, man with a capital M. I don't think there's anything worse than what Clifford might be worse. I don't think you could do Clifford. That. That is casual and familiar in a way that's not appropriate. But method just sounds like dry cleaning starch. It's just. It's how they're saying it at the Harvard. Harvard club. Is that what it is?

[Chris Cody]

Because it's white guys, for sure. Calling Method Man. Method is white guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is it all right? Because I'm less sure.

[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Don LeBatard. You don't remember the idea. I was probably, like, that kind of thing. Something.

[Greg Cody]

Okay, no, the home run call was that kind of swing. That kind of thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats.

[Stugats]

Oh, it's a good call.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like, you're not tailoring it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz. You know, you don't got to do that. Oh, that would be a great call. Swing.

[Dan Le Batard]

That kind of thing. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach. Dan, I have a bit of an update here. I texted my wife about 20 minutes ago. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winner. And she just responded, no way. For real?

[Greg Cody]

How?

[Chris Cody]

I also texted my wife. She said, wow, need that Pulitzer Prize money.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, of course. That's where they are.

[Chris Cody]

I was like, what are those? Zaz?

[Dan Le Batard]

You know those wives.

[Tony]

You know what wives love?

[Dan Le Batard]

I love what people love. Yes. Husbands. Husbands also are big fans of money. I know wives do love. You're correct. Wives do love money. But husbands also love money. I'm pretty sure everybody loves.

[Greg Cody]

There's a cash prize involved.

[Dan Le Batard]

There is a cash prize involved.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. How much of that? What? Cut the mean prize.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a $15,000 cash prize. And I'm assuming, though, I don't know for sure, that Pablo's team is splitting that. I'll have to ask. I don't know if I know them. They'll, like, donate it to charity or something. Is that Pablo's wife's name? Wow, that's a good one. Hey, I wanted. Is that a comedy like dismount noise or anything?

[Greg Cody]

Hey, hey, comedy.

[Chris Cody]

I like yodeling.

[Dan Le Batard]

I wanted to get to something here that puts a bow on the lack of knowledge that Greg Cody has about the movies. But I've been having an argument and I didn't mean to be disrespectful to Jessica if any of you caught me talking to Chris Cody intensely while she was talking. But Chris Cody offered me what was the last music sound or the last movie sound. And I'm like, that's way too easy. You can't do that. It's gonna just end up in anti climax. So I've asked him to bleep out a portion of what it is he's about to play for you to make it slightly harder because I don't think he can make quite so easily that, that it's not bleeped out. So here is your final clue for the day. You've gotten two of them, right? You got wizard of Oz, right? Your favorite movie. And you got Fight Club because it was mentioned three times in the movie. Quote. Here is the final. And what would be the easiest but gets a little harder with the bleep out. What would be the easiest of all the movie quotes?

[Greg Cody]

Phone. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home. Home.

[Tony]

Okay, come on, man.

[Greg Cody]

Hang on, hang on.

[Tony]

There's been no hanging.

[Greg Cody]

I love the. Okay, I'm just trying to think of the name of it. It's E.T. okay, Christopher's giving me a dirty look like, dad, you should have faked it. No, I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I'm not saying faked it. It's just like I just.

[Greg Cody]

If I know it, I know it.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm happy for you.

[Greg Cody]

And honestly, it took me a minute to come up with the name ET

[Dan Le Batard]

but you just tease us with the. Well, he didn't know. He took him a second. Okay, no, but it, it took him a second because he didn't know. And sometimes he thinks he knows and then he does not know that one. I. We had to edit out. He says his own name. He is told by name. E.T.

[Greg Cody]

phone home.

[Dan Le Batard]

And we took that part out. I have the original. This is what we were going to give you.

[Greg Cody]

ET Phone home. Yeah, that might have been part.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just to make it a little more difficult.

[Greg Cody]

What was the thing he sprinkled on the ground? Were Those M&M's or another kind of camera?

[Dan Le Batard]

Reese's Pieces, I believe Reese's Pieces. I knew Roy. Roy's.

[Greg Cody]

I was there. Yeah, that's like an M and M ripoff of. All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is Reese's Pieces hall of Fame snack for all time snack candy for all time.

[Greg Cody]

No, M&M's is.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you gotta put the Reese's cup in there.

[Chris Cody]

Cup is better than pieces.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Cody]

Jelly beans.

[Dan Le Batard]

How about. Never mind. Candy. If I told you guys that you can only go four hall of Fame snacks for all time. 4 Hall of Fame snacks. You only get four choices. You get a Mount Rushmore of snacks as choices. Candy, I don't think is gonna make the list on any of the hall of Fame snacks. I think chips of all kinds. That category obviously goes in. But what are your other. Oh, we're not going more specific.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Popcorn or anything? Well, I was gonna give you the specific chip, but it's fine. Well, if you go chips, though, if you give me specific chips, you're gonna end up with a list that's got multiple chips on it. Right? I mean, you're not gonna just go Doritos and that's. Or a Pl. You're going to have your whole list filled out by chips. If you go just hall of Fame

[Chris Cody]

snacks, let's say only one chip. If you're doing Mount Rushmore, only one chip.

[Dan Le Batard]

What is the hall of Fame chip? Is it a sour cream and cheddar? Is it a plain potato chip, or is it a Dorito?

[Chris Cody]

No, neither. Jalapeno kettle, sour cream?

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you talking about?

[Greg Cody]

I don't like kettle. Too crunchy.

[Tony]

Are you trying to be stupid?

[Chris Cody]

No, I'm trying to give you mine.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony. Tony. But it can't be. Jalapeno kettle is a Hall of Fame snack when you only have four choices and you're giving the world all of the options. Like yours is a very specific chip and flavor.

[Chris Cody]

Jalapeno chips are the best.

[Greg Cody]

Bizarre.

[Dan Le Batard]

But nobody would select that. Nope. Nobody would select that as the hall of Fame. Everyone's nodding along with sour cream and cheddar right now.

[Chris Cody]

Nobody is.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Everyone's nodding.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can see them.

[Greg Cody]

That's a good chip. Oh, wait.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is it lay's or is it Ruffles?

[Stugats]

What a difference. There's a difference.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right. Put it on the poll here, and I'm gonna. Now this is gonna get muddled. Best Ch Chip Dorito, Lays potato chip, plain sour cream and onion. Or does that go in the same category as just the Lays potato chip? Because I would think it's just the potato chip. The just whatever Potato chip. You choose on flavor. It's one potato chip. It can't be Ruffles. It can't be Ruffles.

[Tony]

Potato chips.

[Jessica]

Chips.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. Plain salt versus Doritos versus pretzel.

[Tony]

Right. Like, that's the way to do it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Versus. Versus. Now, if we go snacks versus, like, cheese puffs. But if we go nuts. Yeah. So what is. If we're doing just chips? What are the four? If we're doing just chips? Because. Is a cheese doodle a chip?

[Stugats]

No, no, it's a puff.

[Dan Le Batard]

Unless it's crunchy. A puff is a chip. It's gotta be the chip category. A cheese doodle is not a chip.

[Chris Cody]

It's a snack. It's a cheese snack.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is the cheese doodle a potato chip or in the chip category?

[Stugats]

It's not potatoes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, no, I'm sorry. It's not potato in the chip category. Is the cheese doodle in the chip category? Yes or no?

[Greg Cody]

You said. You said nut.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm trying to think of my Frito. The Frito is a. The Frito is a. Is the chip category correct? Like, what are you doing?

[Tony]

I don't think so. I think Fritos are its own thing.

[Chris Cody]

It's a corn.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a. Yeah, that's a corn chip.

[Tony]

If anything, it would be with Doritos.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah. Chips or potato.

[Chris Cody]

That kind of thing.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

What was that? Say what? Why did you say potato that way?

[Greg Cody]

That's the way my mother and her mother said potato number 16.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nelly doogie. Yeah, but you guys are telling me what else is in the puff category. What else? When you say. Yeah, I know, but when. When you say you guys just made the puff a different category than the chip. And I don't think there's much in the category. Yeah, he's right about that. That's still Puffy and the Pirates booty.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

The Magic Dragon.

[Dan Le Batard]

Overrated, for what it's worth. Greg. I'm gonna.

[Chris Cody]

Greg also, right.

[Greg Cody]

Get him out of here. Ch. What?

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, you just. You're petering out in a way that has to be punished.

[Greg Cody]

Petering in is more minor.

[Dan Le Batard]

Penalty. Two minutes. Personal foul. Personal and foul. The freedom has to be a chip. The Fritos a chip. That's.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

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[Greg Cody]

It's literally a chip. Fritos chips.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a corn chip.

[Tony]

It's with Doritos. If you're going to put it in a category, it's with the Doritos.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, but that's also a chip. All of these are. All of these are chips. I want to know what to put the pretzels. Not a chip. Correct. But it's in the chip category of snacks.

[Chris Cody]

It's in a snack category, not a chip category.

[Dan Le Batard]

We have sub branches of the snack category that involve the pretzel as a chip or not a chip. The puff is a chip or not. Trying to make everything not a chip called a snack.

[Chris Cody]

It's a puff snack.

[Dan Le Batard]

It has its his name.

[Jessica]

It's a snack.

[Dan Le Batard]

And a pretzel chip snack. It's wheat. Its own thing. It's gluten. What. What is. What is the pretzel? The pretzel. It's its own category.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, exactly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you kidding me? So what are the categories? What are the genres? You got chip, you got pretzel, you got puff. What else? What else? What about the nuts? What about the nuts?

[Greg Cody]

Are different.

[Chris Cody]

Nuts are a different one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Not different. Roy, what's your favorite nut? Cheese balls are pretty puffs. Cashew macadamia nut is better.

[Greg Cody]

Wow.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the Polette Lebatard show. I prefer sexual.