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Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with
Mike Ryan
the Stu Guts podcast.
Dan Le Batard
I do want to address something positive from the basketball last night. I mean, James Harden was horrible, okay? But the Detroit Pistons have now won five in a row and they, they were dead in the water. Down 24 in the third quarter in game six at Orlando. They've won five in a row now and are looking every bit, you know, a team that can come out of the east now. Kate Cunningham, I'll tell you, I love watching him play. He is awesome. And when you think about it, like nothing. He is unflappable. Nothing seems to faze him. He has the same attitude the entire game. And I really got to give him a lot of credit because you go back just a couple years ago, I mean, that team lost, what, 29 in a row? I was like, whoa. I mean, like, think about that. He's the best player on an all time awful team, losing 29 games in a row. And now two years later, he's still the best player, but a team that could win the Eastern Conference. I feel like you don't get that very often where you're a great player and the team is just horrible. And then in pretty short time, this is a contending team. Like, I really enjoy watching Kate Cunningham play.
Chris Cody
No, he's spectacular. Remember, a lot of people thought he was going to be the MVP up until his lung collapsed pretty much. And that kind of had to take him out the running. And he might still be it, I guess. I don't know. But yeah, you're right. That's very rare to see someone who was around for the worst of times to be around for the best of times.
Dan Le Batard
Historically bad.
Chris Cody
Especially when the best of times happens. Literally two years after the worst of times happen. I'm still, I'm not prepared to call them the team to beat in the east, even though they are the one seed. I still think the Knicks are better than them. I think the Knicks are better prepared and deeper and they've been more impressive consistently throughout the Eastern Conference playoffs than the, than the Pistons have. But for certain, I have to imagine staring death in the face and not dying has to give you some sort of different level of confidence and belief that you can see it. And it also helps that they're, you know, they're going up against a team in the Cavs that in the recent history, people are looking at as, yeah, it's a little bit of a soft team, but again, I urge everybody to remember it's the playoffs. They won the first two games at home and now they're going to go to Cleveland and we'll see where it goes.
Dan Le Batard
Well, that's my biggest pet peeve in the NBA playoffs where I'm sure we're getting this all over the place today. Where Pistons are up to a series is over. Series can't be over until we allow Cleveland to play a game at home. Now there's a difference between first thing home he loses. You like that saying no, I, I don't like that because of the whole Toronto and Cleveland series never started, started, never happened. Never started.
Chris Cody
Toronto's still waiting.
Dan Le Batard
There's a difference between the series being over because Detroit's up two games none. And I think Detroit's going to win the series. But those are two completely different things.
Mike Ryan
I, you know, we always try to apply this is true in that sport. So therefore it must be true in all sports. I think that home court in the NBA playoffs and is the most important of the four major sports as we sit here in 20 taking weather and
Dan Le Batard
I think it's out of the equation.
Mike Ryan
I think it's been the severe weather and both teams playing in it even that I think that the numbers indicate that it's kind of getting pretty close to a wash. Obviously if you're favored by nine and a half points because you have home, you have home field advantage, it shouldn't be a stunner that that team actually wins. But yeah, I think the numbers kind of bear out that home field advantage in pro football at this point in is negligible. I don't. I think in hockey that's true.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Baseball, who cares. That's who's the starting pitcher. So it would be only be the NBA, right?
Dan Le Batard
Yep.
Dave Damoshek
He's. He's at it again.
Dan Le Batard
Oh yeah. You're smitten with Skip Bayless.
Dave Damoshek
Oh my God.
Mike Ryan
Wow.
Dan Le Batard
We could all learn something from him.
Dave Damoshek
Skip Colon. I'd rather be a Cowboys fan than a Knicks fan.
Mike Ryan
Wow.
Dave Damoshek
Such a good show. Much better than what we're doing. In fact. Leave us. It's okay, we understand.
Mike Ryan
Can I tell you something Cowboys related that I was galled by and I think you, Mike Ryan were too zaslow. Football America is coming at you in a matter of moments. As soon as this show ends, look on YouTube and or wherever you find your podcasts and there you will find the new episode of Football America. We did a deep dive. It was a special occasion because I was here in Miami and as it happens I still am. And so we did a special drip drill with Mike Ryan.
Dave Damoshek
My Partner, we changed it up, started talking uniforms.
Mike Ryan
That's right. And we brought fellow fashionista Meen El Hassan in. Pulitzer Prize winner. And we talked about uniforms, the whole thing. We ranked the best uniforms. Do you know what Buddy Budowski, producer supreme, said his favorite uniform is the Dallas Cowboys. Why their pants don't match their hat. I mean, how can they be in contention for best uniform? I was outraged by that.
Dave Damoshek
Yeah, well, sparks flew. Don't give away the goods.
Dan Le Batard
Football America today.
Mike Ryan
Football America today. Yeah, it's a good one.
Dan Le Batard
So last night, the Thunder took a 20 series lead. They beat the Lakers by 18. And the main story coming out of this one is the same story that it's really been for the playoffs so far, which is the Oklahoma City Thunder get away with everything. A ton of complaining about the officiating. We do this every single year in the playoffs. Whatever team it's going to be, we do this every single year. It's Oklahoma City this year. And there. There was a really weird scene last night, like, so after the game ended, Austin Reeves, Austin Reaves is on the court confronting referee, who was probably the crew chief, John Goebel.
Mike Ryan
Never seen this.
Dan Le Batard
Well, yeah, like, if you're watching on video, here's Austin Reeves confronting John Goble. This looks like it's actually in the middle of the game because you can see the clock up there. There, it says 553. So that's actually in the middle of the game at a timeout. And he says something to him along the lines, if you're reading his lips, you can't talk to me like that. That's bullshit. And then as he walks away, he calls him the word that rhymes with stussy. So, I mean, that's not the one
Jeremy
I would have gone with.
Dan Le Batard
All right, well, anyway, so you got that video right there where he's complaining, where he's complaining about the officiating. And then after the game, even more bizarre, the game is over at this point, and Austin Reaves surrounded by what looks like the entire Laker team, has confronted John Goble. And he's just laying into him. Why is the official. Why is John Goble even standing there? I mean, and taking it like insane visual.
Mike Ryan
The whole team gathered around the official.
Dan Le Batard
And I would also say this is something that's happened in the NBA over you know, last however many 10, 15, 20 years. Guys like Austin Reaves a good player. All right, but why does anyone on every team get to dress down the referee? I feel like it should only be the captain, only the best player should be able to have this kind of extended discourse with the referee.
Chris Cody
You know, in soccer, they have an armband to let you know who the captain is.
Dan Le Batard
In hockey, you got the C. We don't have that.
Chris Cody
In basketball, it's hard to tell because sometimes the captain is a guy who doesn't play a whole lot.
Dan Le Batard
All right. But, you know, the guy coming off the bench is not the guy who should be reacting and arguing with the officials.
Chris Cody
But that's not Austin Reese. He's not a guy coming off the bench. He's one of their best players. He's a good enough player to, I think, advocate on his behalf towards a referee. The irony is, I think the conversation was centered around the way John Goble was addressing Austin Reaves. Austin Reaves did not appreciate that.
Dan Le Batard
And do you remember the play?
Chris Cody
I don't remember the play. I know that I listened to the post game presser and he said, basically the way he was talking to me is so disrespectful. It's like. I wasn't disrespectful. I. I've said way worse things in the past to referees. This was relatively calm. The way I was talking to him, for me. Him to talk to me in that way was beyond across the line. And the big thing he said is. And I think he knows it because he should have teed me up.
Mike Ryan
He couldn't work for that. But again, it was over a jump ball, and if you look at it, it looks like nothing happens. I can't grasp what the. His foe, who is aligned around the jump ball, is to his right.
Dan Le Batard
The.
Mike Ryan
Then he moves his spot to the other side of Austin Reaves. And that was the thing that set Reeves off.
Dan Le Batard
Cobalt, apparently, then turned around and yelled at him. Probably some effect of, you know, stop moving. And.
Mike Ryan
And that apparently Reeves felt disrespected just
Jeremy
the way he delivered the message.
Chris Cody
Look, I don't know what Goble said to him. I know that players get into it with refs all the time. And dav. That's a call. He was arguing a call. It happens all the time. That's not the point.
Mike Ryan
It.
Chris Cody
His point is the way that Goebbels spoke to him crossed a line of decorum, and that's what that scene at the end was about. Like, you don't. You don't talk to me like that. You can. You can call whatever you're going to call, but you can't talk to me like that. We've had this in the past. I. When I Worked for the Suns. We had a player, Zabian Dowdell, who had. The referee called him. Called him a. And we're like, yo. Regardless of what Xabian. Whether he argued the call, where he was like a kind of like a journeyman guy. So is he relevant enough to use kind of Zazzle's terminology, to argue the refs? Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. But the point is that does not allow for the refs to carry themselves with no decorum there. And that's the part that this whole argument is about. It's not about, oh, was that a jump ball? No one cares. That's just one of many calls that players argue about during the game.
Dave Damoshek
It did 12 minutes on. Would you rather be a Cowboys or Knicks fan? 12 minutes.
Mike Ryan
This is. This is iron sharpening. Iron irons. As this is a test. We're in the crucible right here. This is difficult to try to conduct the conversation while Mike Ryan. This is what he's doing. Do you see this?
Dave Damoshek
Yes. I'm texting all my friends.
Jeremy
This is him.
Mike Ryan
This is him challenging you to raise your game. I'm not going.
Dan Le Batard
Is that what you're doing, Mike?
Mike Ryan
I'm not going to give you my eyes, ears, or any of my attention until you earn it over Skip and Stephen A. Hey, Steve. No, no. Stephen A. Please. That's all you need to know. That's all you need to know. If somebody says to you in your life, what if I said to you, hey, Johnny, would you go like, no, no.
Dave Damoshek
He just. He just pointed at Stephen A. And said, don't you disrespect Paul George like that.
Dan Le Batard
Chris, can you give me Austin? Austin Reeves, Not Austin Rivers. He's in a beef with Draymond right now. Can you give me Austin Reeves? After the game, I felt like I
Austin Reaves
was respectful to all of them all night. I mean, there's times in the past I've said way worse stuff. And when we were doing the whole tip ball, they were switching spots. I wanted to get on the other side because they had a guy on the other side who was just trying to keep an advantage. And he turned around, just yelled at my face. I just thought it was disrespectful. The whole time that was going on over there, I don't think he said much to them. I don't think. I think stepped in and said something. But at the end of the day, grown men and I just didn't feel like he needed to yell in my face like that. I told him that I wasn't disrespectful. I told him if I did that to him first, I would have got a tech. I feel like the only reason I didn't get attacked is because he knew he was in the wrong. So, yeah, I don't felt disrespected.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, first of all, if I would have done that to you, I would have gotten a technical foul. That's right. He's the referee.
Chris Cody
Right.
Dan Le Batard
He's above. You're not equals. He's above you. So, yes, if you would talk to him like that, you would get a technical foul. That's correct.
Chris Cody
That's his point, is that it's not like, oh, it's not fair. Why, if I did it to you? He's not saying that. He's saying, if I had done that, I would got a technical foul, but I didn't do it, and hence I didn't get a technical file, despite me telling him this was very disrespectful.
Dan Le Batard
I thought I took it as him saying, I can't talk to you like that, so you shouldn't be allowed to talk to me like that.
Chris Cody
He shouldn't talk to him like that. That's right. Like, he shouldn't talk to him like that. But the point he's making is, as I'm pointing this out to you, if I was disrespectful the way you are, you would be teeing me up. So the fact that you didn't tee me up, as I'm pointing out, this disrespect to you indicates you know I'm right. You know I'm in the right here.
Dan Le Batard
But he also says earlier than that, I've said a million things worse than
Chris Cody
that in other games.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I'll bet he didn't get a million technical fouls.
Mike Ryan
Well, also, I don't know if Austin knows this. This might be helpful for him going forward. This isn't just a random game. This is round two, game two of the playoffs. What are you doing, Austin Reeves? It's like talking about the ballroom, whether there's a war overseas somewhere. What do you. What are you focusing on, man?
Amin El Hassan
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Dave Damoshek
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Dan Le Batard
Don LeBatard. My algorithm on Instagram is Dan. It's all boobs,
Dave Damoshek
stugats.
Dan Le Batard
It's a good algorithm. This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.
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Chris Cody
He didn't come out and say, guys, assemble media. I got something. Oh, they asked him the question. He's answering.
Dan Le Batard
Open a meeting. Confronted the referee the whole game.
Mike Ryan
Surrounding the officiating after Game 2 of a playoff game. That's wise. That's. That's focusing on what matters.
Chris Cody
What are they supposed to do? The game's over.
Dan Le Batard
Exactly.
Mike Ryan
Not bellyache about the officiating.
Chris Cody
He didn't belly ache about it until they asked him about it.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but they only asked him about it because the scene that he.
Jeremy
That was belly aching. Well, we saw in that court with ever. That's belly aching. I don't know what belly aching is. That's not every player surrounding the ref.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, like, if he. If he doesn't do that at the end of the game, the media is not confronting Austin Reeves.
Amin El Hassan
What are you.
Chris Cody
What are you guys trying to protect the referees from having someone have a conversation with them?
Mike Ryan
No.
Chris Cody
Then what's the deal?
Mike Ryan
When have you ever seen an entire team surround the officials after a game?
Dave Damoshek
Don't go.
Chris Cody
Go be mad at the team. Like, he can have that conversation. He can have that conversation. You could be mad at LeBron and Jackson Hayes for hanging around. Maybe they want to make sure their teammate doesn't do something crazy like slap a referee or whatever. Like, the presence of these people is not somehow an indication that you guys are worried about the wrong thing. That's kind of ridiculous. The game's over. I'm going to say what I have to say. My teammates are here to make sure nothing gets out of hand.
Amin El Hassan
And LeBron created another legendary meme. Did you. I mean, did you see just him nodding along? Oh, my God, the Internet's having a field day with it. It's my favorite thing. Someone said it's like, oh, when. When my girl is arguing with the front desk about a hotel reservation. Yeah, that's the best one I've seen so far. Just nodding along.
Mike Ryan
I mean, to be clear, if you are a referee, you are a weirdo. Have you ever met when you were growing up? Zaz, ask the kids as you're driving on your, on your road trip this weekend, ask them. Any of you aspire to be a referee? Any of you want to grow up to. To lord the rules over people better at a sport than you?
Chris Cody
I'm not.
Mike Ryan
You got to be a weirdo. Chip on the shoulder. I want to be one of the guys. Oh, I got drafted last one too many times and pick up basketball. Now I am going to get my revenge by. By officiating you. I'm going to call.
Chris Cody
I'm not going to stand here, Dave Damacek. I have many friends who are NBA officials, both past and present, and I won't stand here as you besmirch them, call them losers and weirdos.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't say losers. I said weird weirdos with chips on their shoulder.
Chris Cody
That's not true. These are people who love the game and there's a role for everybody and someone has to do that role and they do a good job. And also many of them former players, pretty good players. Leon Wood was, was a. Was in the NBA. Heywood Workman was an NBA player. So don't do this. Don't take your anti referee thing that you got from the NFL because your guys are lawyers and plumbers and shit on the weekdays. And then come, oh, wait, I got game today. I got to fly in and do my game. Now I'm going to go back to my. My job lifting weights. I'm Ed Hockley. And then also litigating. That's your NFL biases. Don't bring them over here. It's a. My NBA sandbox damage pulled, surprise winner out.
Mike Ryan
Enjoy them while they're there because they ain't going to be around in about a decade or so. I mean that the writing is in the wall and on the wall. And I think either way I think that we are going to look back on the era in which we sit and say what the hell. That must have been bizarre to be watching baseball games with the K zone and you pitch after pitch football. You're absolutely right. You can go back. The suspended sort of reality in which we're asked to live in is that we can all see in HGTV like, oh, he did get both feet down and he did control that, that pass and that exposes the NFL officials. Sure. But every pitch is in a baseball game. You can see if they got it right or wrong. And yet we have to defer even though we all see the same thing that was in the rectangle or it was outside the rectangle. We don't want to hurt these old guys feelings though. Let them call ball or strike. Let them say ball or strike. You can challenge it. What the hell are we doing? We are going to look back in 10 years and say what the hell kind of behavior was that who we were deferring what to the feelings because they have these umpires egos are going to be hurt. Guess what? Get ready to stand behind there to call the occasional play at the plate. That's about the only value they'll have.
Chris Cody
So Dave, I just want to be clear here when because you know, I don't know if you've seen this. They've got a Colin cowherd app that AI's Colin Cowherd sports arguments for you. So when our jobs are replaced by automation, are you going to be having the same sort of vigor and energy and happiness about the elimination of our jobs? Those people have mortgages, they have children that are going to college. They're just trying to make a buck, an honest buck in this country where people are losing their jobs every day. And here comes big elite, Dave Damachek and his friends Elon Musk and Sam Altman and they want to make sure we're all out of a job.
Mike Ryan
That's right.
Chris Cody
And that's why Spirit Airlines and I just spit everywhere. Spirit Airlines is out of the the running because people like Dave D want big business pro automation.
Dave Damoshek
Let's hear him out.
Mike Ryan
A human sport question to be. To answer your question, no, I will not be as excited.
Jeremy
Jeremy, I bet you like the Sun Pass. All right. I bet at one point you missed the little toll workers. I bet you're okay with Sun Pass.
Amin El Hassan
Now that's a. First of all, there are still people who get to work at the sunpass tolls because not everybody has a Sun Pass.
Dan Le Batard
Do you miss Throwing the coins, the quarters into the bucket.
Amin El Hassan
It was fun to like shoot it. Like I and you go follow through, man.
Dave Damoshek
But why is this taking 20 minutes? Just drive on by.
Amin El Hassan
That's right for that.
Jeremy
But like Dave is So right though. 15 years from now we're going to be like, wait, so there was one year in between.
Amin El Hassan
You'll miss it.
Jeremy
We had miss it.
Mike Ryan
No, you don't get to have it blown away.
Amin El Hassan
It's going what they really.
Jeremy
They touch their head.
Amin El Hassan
You're ridiculous.
Mike Ryan
Zaslo just said, no, no, he's not your equal. He is your superior. The player is answers to the official.
Dan Le Batard
The official is in charge of the game. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Then they need to be right. The standard that. Well, human error is part of things. Not with officiating. We are challenging ourselves or the professional athletes out there doing it are challenging what they are capable of. Can they complete what they are efforting to do? That is not the standard for the referee. It is to say he violated the rules in his attempt to accomplish this. That's it. Get that right. It is not the same standard of human error that's part.
Amin El Hassan
These people are the most excellent in the world at their job. They had to work through several layers of whatever their sporting league is. If you started as a referee and you were doing high school refereeing in football, you worked your way through to get to the NFL. If you were doing it in the NBA, you started a level and you worked your way through. If you're doing baseball umpiring, you worked your way through. You're one of the best in the world. And yes, in anything, there's going to be human error. Tony earlier this week said there's going to be a great day today on Saturday. That's a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing when we have human error.
Jeremy
Not in the bottom of the ninth of the world Series.
Amin El Hassan
Guess what? You can challenge it because we have the automation to back it up. But this is just like the self checkout line. You know what I do? I steal from the self checkout line because we cannot explain accept this automation
Dan Le Batard
in our lives taking over. Oh, incriminating. Hold on a second. You go to Publix and you're stealing.
Amin El Hassan
That's absolutely right.
Jeremy
Teach me how do you do you
Amin El Hassan
weigh like, you know, you get five tomatoes, you weigh four of them, you get. You get a little soda, you put it on the bottom of the cart,
Mike Ryan
this lousy son of a.
Amin El Hassan
And you walk out. You know why? It's. It's my automation tax. You're going to take away jobs from working class people who are just checking out.
Mike Ryan
You're stealing from our failing farm.
Amin El Hassan
Who.
Jeremy
You're also a cow. Like, do half that. You put.
Dan Le Batard
You pay for four of them, right? You get one for free.
Amin El Hassan
I might steal avocado on occasion.
Dan Le Batard
Come on.
Amin El Hassan
No. What it really ends up being a
Dan Le Batard
lot of times I'm.
Amin El Hassan
I. Okay, first of all, you're not going to. You're not going to take away more jobs.
Dan Le Batard
Get 10 and pay for one. Okay, now you're talking to him, Robin Hood.
Amin El Hassan
Sure.
Chris Cody
I.
Amin El Hassan
Hey, I don't see you doing it. I don't see you doing anything about automation. All of you are just advocating for more of it. Like, oh, throw this AI slap here. Oh, get rid of the umpires. What. What are you doing? You're a human being. But, oh, it's okay because, you know the kids, they'll deal with that later. It's ridiculous. You've gotten to live your dreams and you're just. You're just happy to get rid of it.
Chris Cody
Can I make an admission? I want to reveal something. You know, it's big day for reveal.
Dan Le Batard
Are we doing reveals?
Chris Cody
Big week for reveals. Chris revealed whatever he revealed. Jeremy just revealed something right there. I got to reveal to pull back the curtain. We have a whiteboard, has all the topics, right? The topics that we're talking about, right? One of them says K Zone slash abs. And I thought it was like a K pop group and someone had great abs. And we're going to talk about it. I'm like, why? Who put on this K pop thing, K Zone.
Amin El Hassan
I mean, it probably would have been me.
Chris Cody
Doesn't K Zone sound like a. Like a K pop group?
Dan Le Batard
I have a shirt project Main street is raising money for Lou Gehrig's Day ALS, which is coming up June 2nd. And we all have these shirts, and I had it laying around my house a couple of days ago, and it says in big bold letters, end als. All right. I think Roy wore it here a couple of days ago. Yeah, my very big letters ended and underneath it, als. My wife got home. She goes, why are we ending owls?
Jeremy
Oh, we are making fewer of them.
Dan Le Batard
You think we're just killing owls? We're getting rid of owls. That's what you think that shirt is.
Amin El Hassan
That's what you're going to want next.
Dan Le Batard
And once.
Amin El Hassan
Once you kill all the jobs, you start, I pick owls and you go alphabetically.
Jeremy
I picture Jeremy walking out of the grocery store like he did after that interview he did where it's just like a nice fist bump.
Mike Ryan
Like, yeah, I saved.
Jeremy
I don't even know what you're saving,
Amin El Hassan
but you're trying humanity.
Chris Cody
Bundy. Jefferson. Right. Harrington.
Dan Le Batard
But you want to end these guys.
Chris Cody
All these guys. Get them up out of here.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
All right.
Austin Reaves
Michaels.
Dave Damoshek
Hey, Roy, buddy.
Mike Ryan
Yo.
Dave Damoshek
You know that energy shift when the game gets good and everybody all together in unison knows to stand up on their feet?
Mike Ryan
Oh, absolutely.
Chris Cody
Mike.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Dave Damoshek
You've been at many big time sporting events. You know that moment quite well. That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo.
Chris Cody
Oh, delicious.
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That's right.
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Dan Le Batard
Don Lebatar witty.
Dave Damoshek
We have a photo right here. If you can see in this photo with my daughter there I am pointing exactly to the point on the Stanley cup where it says, you suck ass stugats right there.
Mike Ryan
Engraved.
Jeremy
Really?
Dave Damoshek
It's like, yeah, they got an engraved right there. It says, chris Whittingham sucks ass.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Chris has a very, very fun new game that we are going to debut now, everyone. Chris, you want to let everybody know what it is?
Mike Ryan
Yep.
Jeremy
It's called Fun or Terrifying. I'm gonna play a video here for you guys, and we can just kind of watch it and react together. This is a hot air balloon going over the Serengeti. It's super low, and it looks terrifying to me. This is not fun. This is my nightmare.
Dan Le Batard
You want Serengeti?
Jeremy
It's like in Africa, right? It's like, just like, don't shame me.
Dan Le Batard
Who cares? Why do I have to know the Serengeti?
Jeremy
You don't have to, but I'm explaining it to you. It's just the why. It's wildlife. There's hippos that could kill you. There's lions that could kill you, everything. And this, like, people are what look like, what, a hundred feet over. Maybe it's the depth. It's hard to tell. But it's like, I'm asking you guys because this is probably very expensive. Very cool thing to do to some people. Not for me. This is terrifying.
Chris Cody
Chris, there's another name for this game. Not Fun or Terrifying. It's.
Jeremy
Yeah, but I'm white. I would say I'm pushing back off that, though, because I'm white, and I think this is terrifying.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. You know what? I'm gonna go fun. I. I think I would do that. Because you're not very high. I don't want to go very high, but I think I'm going to go fun there.
Jeremy
For me, the higher the better here. Like, I don't want to be 50ft above all these Dan Levitards. You're worried about a hippo jumping up
Chris Cody
and trying to get you?
Dave Damoshek
It's just.
Jeremy
No, I'm worried about it. Having to make an emergency landing, and all of a sudden I'm terrified.
Dan Le Batard
All right, but the same thing would happen if you're higher up.
Jeremy
But then I could at least have a longer fall. We could get away from the hippos as we fall.
Dave Damoshek
I don't ask him. Follow ups. You know, that's unfair.
Dan Le Batard
All right, I'm going fun.
Mike Ryan
Mike and Amin speaking. All this talk about being high. There is a gigantic joint standing right behind you guys.
Chris Cody
A cyclone. That's a.
Mike Ryan
Is that what that is? Dave, are you in on this unibrowed blunt?
Jeremy
Dave, you ever been in a hot Air balloon?
Mike Ryan
No, I would never. I mean, I would never even be in that position in the first place. I would never. My wanderlust is gone at this age.
Dan Le Batard
You know about that? Wanderlust?
Mike Ryan
I have no interest in traveling to exotic lands if I ever was interested. That has come.
Jeremy
Have you been in more hot air balloons or tanning beds?
Mike Ryan
Oh, you need to see Vietnam before you die. I'm okay.
Dave Damoshek
Is tanning beds
Chris Cody
wander Franco's full name? Wanderlust Franco.
Jeremy
Was that question random to you, Mike? Sorry about that.
Dave Damoshek
Well, random answer is Vietnam question, though.
Juju
Ask again.
Jeremy
I'm sorry, I didn't hear.
Mike Ryan
You simply must see exotic Egypt before you. Before it's. No, thanks. I'm all right. Just let me know. Just show me the pictures of it. I'll just take a look at yours.
Jeremy
Zaz, not all segments are winners. We tried here.
Dan Le Batard
No, I think we'll give it another try another day.
Dave Damoshek
What are you trying to do with it?
Dan Le Batard
I'm not out on fun or terrible.
Jeremy
I was trying to get them to tanning beds.
Dave Damoshek
Yeah. I mean.
Mike Ryan
Oh, yeah. That is.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
It did. It did come up. It did come up. Previously. Who do you think Cody has spent more time in a tanning bed in his life? Dave damoshek or Jonathan Zasla?
Jeremy
I would imagine zaz has never been in a tanning bed. And you live in California, so if you made me play this game, I would think you have been more tanned.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Dave Damoshek
I believe you maybe bowed to the societal pressures of Los angeles.
Jeremy
You just have. You're a little darker, so you just look like somebody who has tanned. I could argue zaz has never tanned.
Chris Cody
Yeah. Look at zaz's skin tone. He can't even tan even if he wanted to. Also, big eye head. How's he gonna fit in the tanning bed? Like, it won't close.
Mike Ryan
That would be tough to negotiate your head through the tanning bed space.
Dan Le Batard
You will be surpr to know that I have done tanning beds several times.
Mike Ryan
Why are you able to get onto a plane with your head? Like, when that. Because that hole is a little.
Dan Le Batard
Asking me.
Dave Damoshek
I don't know. He's asking you if you've been able to board a plane because he questions whether or not your big ass head fits.
Mike Ryan
If your head.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, that's in a tanning bed, then
Mike Ryan
how's it gonna fit on an airplane?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I have been in a tanning bed.
Jeremy
When's the last.
Dan Le Batard
Several times. Early twenties.
Dave Damoshek
Can you. Was this, like, a radio sponsorship?
Dan Le Batard
No, it was before I was in College.
Jeremy
Oh, early 2020.
Dave Damoshek
I thought it was 2020 Santa Fe.
Chris Cody
Speaking of radio sponsorship things, another Sudano video has dropped. I'm going to go. I'm going to go effort that right now, before the end of the show.
Mike Ryan
All right, so I've never to answer. I've never been in a tanning bed. I have. I have dignity. And why would L. A me living in LA now mean I would go to a tanning bed. The sun's out there. Why would I need the fake thing? I've got the real thing over my head.
Dave Damoshek
That stopped everybody else in la, so
Mike Ryan
everybody I know just. It's a steady flow of people going to the tanning bed every day.
Dan Le Batard
All right, well, while Amin is efforting the latest Sedano video, walking around in a robe. By the way, I've never worn a robe in my life in any setting. I have never put on a robe.
Amin El Hassan
It's not even when you're being a cuck.
Dan Le Batard
It's all right. I told you about that.
Dave Damoshek
You can just open it up.
Dan Le Batard
You know what, Jeremy? I was just about to let you talk about something that you would want to talk about. So instead, because Jeremy comes in here on a daily basis wanting to talk about things that nobody wants to hear about. So instead of that, allow you give us a couple of topics and we'll pick which one we give you a little bit of a time to talk about.
Amin El Hassan
Okay. All right.
Dan Le Batard
How many, Max?
Amin El Hassan
Okay, I got three. I can give you three. All right, so let's start here. Ashley Padilla. Y' all know about that? Ashley Padilla. Ashley Padilla is currently emerging as one of the all time great SNL performers.
Mike Ryan
Was that you who compared her to Kristen Wiig?
Amin El Hassan
I did.
Mike Ryan
A few days ago I did. That's a loco thing to talk about.
Amin El Hassan
I know it is. She is at the beginning of her career. She is still just a featured cast member on this show. She's amazing. So I'll stop right there. There's also a new film coming out called Last Dance. Not what you think it is. It's a new film about a composer who invites his daughter on a gay cruise in the Caribbean in 1991 while retreating from the reality of his AIDS diagnosis.
Dan Le Batard
All I need to know. Okay, next.
Amin El Hassan
You want to know about the stars.
Dan Le Batard
Next,
Amin El Hassan
actor named KJ Apa from Riverdale. He's got an alternate identity as Mr. Fantasy, a musical artist, and he recently called out Mr. Fantasy saying he's a liar.
Dan Le Batard
Dave Thief. Vote. Which one?
Mike Ryan
Can you go oh, for three?
Dan Le Batard
You can.
Amin El Hassan
I Mean, guys, Rachel Zegler's in that movie I was talking about.
Dan Le Batard
Horrible.
Amin El Hassan
Talked about her a lot.
Mike Ryan
I.
Amin El Hassan
One of the great young actresses of our time.
Mike Ryan
Sometimes the hate will win in my heart.
Amin El Hassan
Super talented.
Mike Ryan
I would like to hear, because I already hate that guy. Terrific vocalist, whoever that guy was, who has an alternate.
Amin El Hassan
Oh, Mr. Fantasy.
Dan Le Batard
All right.
Mike Ryan
Whatever that is.
Amin El Hassan
All right, KJ Appa. There's a show called Riverdale. All right, so Mr. Fantasy is this alternate identity that came out on Tick Tock about a year ago, and I think it was May of 2025. And there's.
Mike Ryan
But we don't know who's, like, who his real identity is.
Dan Le Batard
Well, I like it.
Mike Ryan
I like that we barely know who he is, but he's like, hey, guess what? If you like this, I don't know who you are. Well, you get a load of my old id.
Amin El Hassan
Old id?
Mike Ryan
A fool. Again, I don't know who.
Dan Le Batard
Jeremy, you're losing your time to Dave.
Amin El Hassan
KJ Apa is an actor who was in the TV show Riverdale. It's the Archie comics. If basically the Archie comics wasn't that 20 years ago. So as the cyclone comes through here and is spinning around, Mr. Fantasy is essentially this. This alternate identity. Everyone was like, oh, my God. Who is this person? I don't know who this person is. And then ultimately, people started to figure out through context clues that, wait, I think it's this actor, KJ Apa from Riverdale. And so, over the span of time, he has refused to acknowledge. But recently, there was a new music video in which the other stars of Riverdale, including Plantations, own Camila Mendez. Okay? Cami Mendez, graduate of American Heritage Plantation. She was in the music video. So were the other members of this show. But it didn't make any sense because Mr. Fantasy can't possibly, possibly be KJ Apa. And so KJ Appa says, you know what? I'm gonna call you a thief and a liar. But we all know the KJ Appa is actually Mr. Fantasy. It's a really cool thing that's happening in pop culture.
Mike Ryan
Amin's taking four naps in the last couple of minutes.
Amin El Hassan
Mr. Fantasy's super cool.
Dan Le Batard
All right.
Mike Ryan
You should look.
Amin El Hassan
He looks ridiculous.
Mike Ryan
I think Mike was right. Put on Skip and Stephen A.
Amin El Hassan
It's good music.
Dan Le Batard
Dave, you really don't want to know about Rachel Zegler.
Mike Ryan
Thank you.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you. Your time is up.
Amin El Hassan
Adrian Brody.
Dan Le Batard
Your time is up. Dave, today is your last day with us. You've done that. Let's give it up to Dave Real Quick. For spending the week.
Jeremy
Toast to Dave.
Dan Le Batard
Coming. Oh, okay.
Jeremy
Brought to you by Cuervo.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, all right. Toast to Dave. How about that? Dave, you've done a wonderful job. We've enjoyed having you in. But last night, I was just about
Mike Ryan
to say, speaking of toast, you got
Dan Le Batard
lit up last night, huh?
Mike Ryan
Well, it wasn't my fault. Our pal here on the other side of that door, Zaslow Cynthia. I went up to get my tacos, as I do when I am here. I love that they have delicious tacos here at the Elser. And I went up there to get my standard fare of tacos, and Cynthia was there. I found her seated at the bar and I joined her. And the next thing I knew, we threw it on real good. We threw it on real good. And we went name by name through the company. And she told me the truth.
Chris Cody
Wow.
Mike Ryan
About everybody. And then, as if I needed to punctuate it, I went down. Cuz I didn't have. They were like, oh, kitchen closed. I'm a kitchen closed. We've been boozing so long, I forgot to order my tacos. So I needed to get food. So I went down to Vice Versa. And hear me now, believe me later, the best pizza I've had in the last two years consistently coming out of Vice Versa. On the first floor in the lobby of the Elser, I have been eating the spicy pepperoni. But then the bartender said, do me a favor, do yourself a favor, try the clam pizza. And I said, clam?
Dan Le Batard
What does that mean? Clam piece, clams on it.
Jeremy
That's what I would go with, right?
Dan Le Batard
What are you laughing at me for?
Mike Ryan
Because I think they figured out what it meant when clam pizza meant clam pizza that had clams on it. You know, Art?
Dan Le Batard
Yes, I know now, right?
Mike Ryan
And then the next thing I knew after that, I was seated atop cloud nine eating my clam pizza, and I barely was able to return to planet Earth in time for the show. Clam pizza, Spicy pepperoni pizza. A toast to you. Vice versa. Nay. To Cynthia, a delightful companion to bend the elbow with over and over.
Jeremy
Keep it Cuervo.
Dan Le Batard
Do you feel like you learned a bit about everybody on the show that you needed to know about?
Jeremy
I did.
Dan Le Batard
You got the. You got the gossip on everyone.
Mike Ryan
I'm gonna side eye a lot of you now.
Jeremy
You just talked about the firefighter for the whole time. Is that's what I'm imagining?
Mike Ryan
That's right. So what is Chris Cody's. But seriously, though, what's his deal? Really, though, why. Why Chris Cody. Why?
Jeremy
No idea.
Amin El Hassan
Dude.
Chris Cody
Guys, as promised.
Dave Damoshek
Wait. Oh, I thought you wanted to talk about how Skip has LeBron as his ninth best player ever. Behind Bird, behind Kobe.
Chris Cody
Guys, as promised, the second Sedano video has hit the Internet.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, here we go.
Chris Cody
Now he's selling flowers. Check it. And if you have a busy lifestyle like me.
Amin El Hassan
Just give me one second.
Dan Le Batard
If you have a busy lifestyle like
Chris Cody
me, right, where I'm traveling all the time, where, you know, when I come to the office, you got to talk to different people.
Dave Damoshek
Just.
Chris Cody
I'll be right with you. All you gotta do is do what I do.
Mike Ryan
Good for him.
Chris Cody
I just love him. Shilling for all of these things. He's like. He's like for Mother's Day, like that car shield commercial with Stephen A. In it. Like, I just see. I see Sadana there. The only thing that's missing is the bathrobe. I wish he had worn the bathrobe.
Amin El Hassan
Who's his agent?
Dave Damoshek
Oh, man. Stephen A. Is selling like Shawn Michaels in a WrestleMania right now. These facials, look how serious they are.
Mike Ryan
That's the key, you know that this is an important conversation just based on their facial expression.
Dave Damoshek
This is Dolph Ziggler type selling.
Jeremy
He's doing the, like, rest his chin on his hand, just kind of like
Chris Cody
nodding along, eyebrows raised. He's looking away, by the way. You see how. Here we go. The wide shot. He's not even looking at. Is he cleaning his glasses?
Dave Damoshek
No, I think he's checking his nails.
Chris Cody
Checking his nails.
Mike Ryan
Oh.
Dave Damoshek
Oh, this is great.
Chris Cody
We are so bad.
Mike Ryan
What performance.
Dave Damoshek
That's flare, steamboat.
Dan Le Batard
How are we supposed to compete with that?
Dave Damoshek
Don't we punt?
Amin El Hassan
Chris, show me your belly button.
Mike Ryan
Sedano. Did you notice the beige linen suit? That's Damoshek's future. I'm following his lead. That's where I'm headed. Maybe as early as next week, there will be a whole new Dave for the world to see. Dave, the one who wears T shirts and ratty old flannel button downs and everything else. That's. That's. That's a Dave of the past. It's the don of a new Dave. Fancy Dave, Old Dave, Elegant Dave, Classy Dave.
Dan Le Batard
Keep going. You got more adjectives.
Mike Ryan
I mean, that's. I don't have to claim every adjective.
Dave Damoshek
Affluent Dave. You got like 30 more seconds.
Mike Ryan
If that, if, if. If that's the. What you take from it. I think that picking up what I'm. Yeah, maybe, maybe. As long as you don't say ass. Dave. Dave the ass. I Don't want to be Dave the Ass. I would much rather be given a choice. I'd much rather be known as Dave the Asshole. That means I have gravitas that maybe I could one day sit and say ridiculous things with a serious face. To Skip and Stephen a. Steve. No, no Stephen.
Jeremy
A
Dan Le Batard
special shout out to the clones. Good luck. Let's go tonight.
Mike Ryan
Big one.
Dan Le Batard
Very big night for all of us.
Mike Ryan
Cyclones.
Dan Le Batard
George Cloney in the house today. Cyclone, come on now.
Mike Ryan
Hey, shout out to everybody. Always makes me feel so welcome here, especially Kristen and Cynthia. But Zaslo, you're in the tough chair, man, steering the ship here and everything else. Point guard, you're like.
Dave Damoshek
You're some tough chairs.
Mike Ryan
You're more. You're more Steph Marbury than you are John Stockton. You can score, but you also distribute.
Dan Le Batard
All right, there you go.
Chris Cody
Starberry, you got a bigger hat, too.
Dan Le Batard
Let's bring aboard juju today for a very special edition of Friday Thunder.
Juju
Yes, sir. Man Salute to all the big dogs out there who became millionaires last night because Thursday Thunder struck and hit again. And guess what? We back. Man. The WNBA season is kicking off, so you got to know I got a couple picks for my ladies. Starting off first with Queen Wilson, aka Big Asia. We going for 20 points, Scooby Snacks, at least tonight as well as second leg, we going with at least 10 rebounds for my sister as well. Salute the bam. Moving on to the next leg, Alyssa Thomas at for eight assists at least. Man, lock them in. And you got to know, before I get out of here, I gotta show some love to the home team, man. Tomorrow, the Atlanta Dream moneyline against the Minnesota Links. Lock it in.
Dave Damoshek
Man.
Chris Cody
Salute.
Dan Le Batard
Juju. Speaking of the Atlanta Dream, you know about them me bounds?
Juju
I know about them me bounds. I can't wait to see them. I hope I get one of them me bounds. You dig it?
Dan Le Batard
All right, there you go. Angel Reese, now Atlanta Dream. Big star there.
Mike Ryan
Tamu Salami.
Dan Le Batard
Yep.
Chris Cody
You guys see the big birthday the. That oh. Carter gave for Asia for? Excuse me, what's going on here? I don't know.
Dan Le Batard
What are these words?
Chris Cody
Dude, you know what I'm talking about, right?
Dan Le Batard
What?
Juju
Yes, sir. Having the best gambling week ever known to man. History did. No one has ever seen this type of president. So as you were saying,
Chris Cody
juju, you bet on that Pulitzer?
Dan Le Batard
Salute to George. Speaking of which, with the Pulitzer and of course the Cyclones, this could be a. A once in a lifetime thing that happens tonight, right? I mean, yeah.
Chris Cody
No, I mean, look, I'm already The first Sudanese Pulitzer Prize winner ever. Now, there's a chance that I could be the first Sudanese Pulitzer Prize winner. Was also a High Alai winner.
Dan Le Batard
So.
Dave Damoshek
Battle for all right. Battle court champion. It's never happened before.
Mike Ryan
The Cyclone. You have a piece of this action. I mean, I didn't realize.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, we all do.
Dave Damoshek
You can be a Battle Corps champion.
Dan Le Batard
It's.
Dave Damoshek
It's the show owns the team.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Holy hell.
Dan Le Batard
You're in on this.
Mike Ryan
Feel what it feels like to be a winner for once.
Chris Cody
Champion.
Dave Damoshek
Are you gonna be watching?
Mike Ryan
You can watch because they don't let lefty, so I don't feel included.
Amin El Hassan
Damn.
Mike Ryan
I mean, why would. You know what kind of just right out in the open Discrimination against my people.
Dave Damoshek
The other night, I was staying in. At least that was a plan. Then the text from my buddy Eagle Eye comes in. Mike, we've got the games on. I say, yeah. I grab a pack of Miller Lite, and immediately my plan's gone. Now it's playoff basketball. Every possession feels huge. Baseball's on another screen, and I somehow care about that, too. Everybody's got takes flying. Nobody's watching. Just one thing, and we're all way more into it than we ever expected. It was one of those nights that you take a sip, you look around and you think, yeah, this was the right move. That's why I reached for Miller Light. It's clean, refreshing, easy to drink, brewed for taste, with simple ingredients just 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. The original light beer since 1975. And it still hits different cheers to legendary moments with Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Episode: K-Pop, Automated Referees, And Mr. Fantasy | Hour 2
Date: May 8, 2026
This episode serves up the show’s signature, loosely structured mix of sports hot takes, NBA playoff breakdowns, pop culture banter, and irreverent humor. Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan, Stugotz, and their regular ensemble dive into the unexpected rise of the Detroit Pistons, heated debates over NBA officiating (and the potential for automation in sports refereeing), an exploration of pop-culture oddities like the "Mr. Fantasy" phenomenon, and a spirited new game segment. The hosts’ combative, self-aware, and self-deprecating tone is ever present, with frequent detours into asides, listener engagement, and behind-the-scenes gossip.
Detroit Pistons’ Unexpected Surge
Debate: Does Home Court Matter Most in the NBA?
Austin Reaves/Referee Confrontation
Who Has the Right to Address Refs?
Automation & Robo-Ref Debate (20:00+)
Self-Checkout/Automation Tangent
Mr. Fantasy Reveal (36:12)
SNL Standouts & Film
“Cade Cunningham…He's the best player on an all time awful team, losing 29 games in a row. And now two years later...a team that could win the Eastern Conference…You don't get that very often.”
– Dan Le Batard (00:15)
“If I would have done that to you, I would have gotten a technical foul. That's right. He's the referee. He's above. You're not equals.”
– Dan Le Batard (11:34)
“Enjoy them while they're there because they ain't going to be around in about a decade or so...We are going to look back in 10 years and say what the hell kind of behavior was that...”
– Mike Ryan (19:42)
“It's my automation tax. You're going to take away jobs...who are just checking out.”
– Amin El Hassan (24:07)
“One of them says K Zone slash abs. And I thought it was like a K pop group and someone had great abs…I’m like, why? Who put on this K pop thing, K Zone.”
– Chris Cody (25:23)
“This is a hot air balloon going over the Serengeti. It’s super low and it looks terrifying to me. This is not fun. This is my nightmare.”
– Jeremy (29:25)
“Mr. Fantasy is essentially this alternate identity…People started to figure out…wait, I think it’s this actor, KJ Apa from Riverdale. He’s refused to acknowledge…”
– Jeremy (36:36)
Detroit Pistons/NBA Playoff Run:
00:08 – 03:49
Home Court Importance & Officiating Debates:
03:49 – 11:34
Austin Reaves/Referee Incident (with Austin Reaves Quote):
10:39 – 12:29
Automation in Officiating & Human Jobs:
19:42 – 25:23
Automation Tangents/Self-Checkout Confessions:
24:07 – 25:23
Pop Culture Lightning Round (K-Pop, Mr. Fantasy, SNL):
34:40 – 37:49
Fun or Terrifying Game Segment:
29:24 – 32:11
Friday Thunder Betting Picks/Show Gossip:
44:01 – 46:45
The episode brims with the show’s trademark blend: irreverent, snarky, deeply informed but rarely self-serious, with the ensemble’s chemistry and extended riffs as the driving force. Even weightier topics spin into jokes, playful jabs, and collective self-mockery.
Listeners can expect a swirling mix of NBA talk (with an eye on narrative over stats), persistent meta-commentary on the value and future of human judgment in sports, not-so-deep dives into pop culture curiosities, and plenty of banter about everything from Miami tacos to robot umpires. For fans new and old, the episode reflects the show’s ability to make the silly, the serious, and the surreal all feel part of the same conversation.