Local Hour: Billy's Day of Positivity

Summary

Podcast Summary

Local Hour: Billy's Day of Positivity

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Date: September 30, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

In this “Local Hour” episode, the Dan Le Batard Show team kicks off with the premise of Billy’s Day of Positivity. Bill “Billy” Gil is serving a show-long “Ted Lasso”–inspired punishment: he must remain relentlessly positive—even as the rest of the cast grapples with a pessimistic Dolphins win, Tyreek Hill’s devastating injury, and the state of South Florida sports. The show blends signature sports banter, pop-culture riffs, inside jokes, and Miami-centric humor, while dissecting the latest NFL and college football storylines.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

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1. Billy’s Ted Lasso Punishment and Group Banter

[02:00 – 04:47]

• Billy explains his “Ted Lasso” punishment: he must stay positive for a full show, opting to wear just a mustache instead of dressing up.
  • “This is me going above and beyond. So this is me going above and beyond.” — Billy [02:00]
• Craig Cody jokes that Billy looks more like Pirates pitcher Paul Skenes, not Ted Lasso [02:46].
• They debate the legitimacy of the punishment and whether positivity is truly a “punishment” for Billy.
• Dan and Stugotz worry Billy will slip up and get negative, planning to keep him in check.
• Brief mention of punishment enforcement (hiring Udonis Haslem to enforce punishments).

Notable moment:

• Greg Cody doesn’t have a “Back in my day,” a rare occurrence, prompting Dan to roast him:
  • “It’s one of the few things you do that I enjoy.” — Dan [05:06]

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2. Dolphins-Jets Game Reaction & Tyreek Hill’s Injury

[05:26 – 16:53]

• The cast rips into the Dolphins’ ugly win over the Jets, describing both teams as terrible.
  • “They played one of the worst games I’ve seen anyone play this season.” — Stugotz [06:07]
• The Jets’ incompetence, countless penalties, and turnovers are highlighted.
• The conversation pivots to Tyreek Hill’s serious injury, its gruesomeness, and the impact on the Dolphins’ season.
  • Craig: “It was a pyrrhic victory…they can’t really celebrate because Hill just had a gruesome, very likely season-ending injury… emblematic of the season.” [06:44]
• The group discusses the strange, stoic, almost upbeat public reaction Tyreek had as he left the field.
  • “It was a really gruesome injury. It was really disturbing, right, Billy?” — Dan [11:40]
  • Billy (in forced “positive” mode): “What it really showed us was his true character and spirit on the field…what a leader.” [11:46]
  • Jeremy and Dan agree the reaction was “weird…like Antonio Brown vibes.” [15:06]
  • Craig defends Hill: “Sometimes you smile instead of crying. You don’t want to show your real emotion.” [16:00]

Memorable Quote:

• “The Tyreek Hill era is over in Miami, and what they got out of it was an exciting season and a half of offense and no playoff wins.” — Stugotz [10:54]

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3. Dolphins’ Offensive Outlook After the Injury

[12:36 – 13:39]

• Dan notes Waddle will need to step up, but doubts he’s truly a WR1 in Tyreek’s absence. [13:00]
• Craig is slightly more optimistic: “He should be able to be the guy now who stretches the field…” [13:17]
• Brief debate on the use of “WR1” versus “wide receiver”—cueing language nerdery and show in-jokes.
• Discussion of tight end Darren Waller’s performance and upcoming appearance on the show.

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4. The Guardian Cap Debate and Football Safety Aesthetics

[20:52 – 31:01]

• A friend texts Stugotz, ranking Tua’s decision not to wear the extra-protective “Guardian Cap” among the dumbest recent football risks. [20:52]
• Group debates why players (like Tua) refuse to use extra protection (looks, balance, science still evolving).
  • “They look like clown helmets…exaggerated caps.” — Craig [22:13]
  • “You gotta look good instead of brain safety?” — Stugotz [26:34]
  • Jeremy: “No quarterback has ever chosen to wear this. It’s on them. It’s their decision. It ain’t mine.” [28:17]
• Craig claims football helmets were once made from turtle or tortoise shells, prompting banter about helmet evolution and animal facts. [31:01–32:57]
• Jeremy and Dan research in real-time and debunk the claim but agree history is fuzzy.
• Billy jokes about seniors’ airbag clothes and suggests NFL adopt the technology. Craig riffs: “They should all dress like the Michelin Man so that there’s no real contact.” [30:43]

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5. Dolphins’ Historically Bad Defense (Prediction and Analysis)

[35:58 – 46:31]

• The crew debates whether the current Dolphins defense is “historically bad,” with Dan and Stugotz predicting things will get worse:
  • “Are you with me on the fact that I believe that this defense is historically bad?” — Stugotz [35:58]
  • “19 straight drives without making a stop…they can’t actually stop people.” — Stugotz [37:02]
  • Jeremy: Stats don’t yet back up “historically bad,” but notes games against some potent offenses. [36:32]
  • Craig: “Six teams in the NFL giving up more points and more defensive yards than the Dolphins.” [43:17]
• Analysis of Miami’s inability to stop the run, injuries, and the notion that McDaniel’s aggressive coaching stems from a lack of trust in the defense.
  • “It’s a little bit pathetic that early in the game the Dolphins are saying, we have to get touchdowns to beat the Jets.” — Dan [38:27]

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6. Quick-Hitters & Miscellaneous Humor

• Should the Dolphins’ defense pick up Minka Fitzpatrick? (Jeremy, [40:15])
• The detail-obsessed goofing on the Dolphins' alternate jerseys and what makes a “true Dolphins jersey” (Dan holds up his Zach Thomas Hall of Fame jersey). [45:39 – 46:21]
• Billy, sticking to positivity, starts talking about Dolphins playoff tiebreakers, casting optimism despite the mood. [46:35]
• Outro riffs on playoff chances, tiebreaker explanations, and references to DK Network advertisements.

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Notable Quotes & Moments by Timestamp

• “He doesn’t look anything like Ted Lasso. That’s not a Ted Lasso.” — Stugotz [02:41]
• “It is a punishment for him to have to be positive…It just doesn’t look like Ted Lasso.” — Stugotz [03:54]
• “You took the first pitcher to have an ERA under 2 and I don’t know how many years…” — Stugotz on Craig’s Paul Skenes reference [03:00]
• “It was a pyrrhic victory…can’t really celebrate because Hill just had a gruesome, very likely season-ending injury.” — Craig [06:44]
• “The Tyreek Hill era is over in Miami, and what they got out of it was an exciting season and a half of offense and no playoff wins.” — Stugotz [10:54]
• “I want so badly to be loved.” — Dan, on Tyreek Hill’s sideline reaction [15:22]
• “I wonder if maybe players that are susceptible to concussions have considered having the airbag clothes…” — Billy [30:20]
• “They look like clown helmets…Elmer Fudd would be wearing a helmet that big just so other cartoon characters could laugh at him.” — Craig [22:13]

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Tone & Style

True to show form: irreverent, fast-paced, sharp, and full of inside jokes and banter, with Billy's enforced positivity acting as the comedic throughline against a backdrop of Dolphins anxiety and NFL chaos.

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Conclusion

This "Local Hour" encapsulates everything the Dan Le Batard Show does best—anchoring a major South Florida sports debate with a sense of comedic absurdity and camaraderie, all while testing the limits of Billy’s positivity and dissecting every detail from facial hair to defensive schemes, one pineapple-infused tangent at a time.

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Transcript

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[Craig]

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[Billy]

Well, this is me going above and beyond because I lost two weeks ago and I selected the punishment that was labeled the Ted Lasso. And the Ted Lasso was not dress up as Ted Lasso. It was just be positive for an entire show. And I said, okay, I can do that. I don't have to wear a costume like, well, you know if you want to wear a mustache and go above and beyond, that would be great. And I said, you know what? I want to go above and beyond. So this is me going above and beyond.

[Stugotz]

This doesn't look like above and beyond to me.

[Billy]

This looks like two punishment payoffs. I've been told it is.

[Craig]

Good job, Bill.

[Stugotz]

What do you mean? It is on top of the three.

[Billy]

Trees I planted instead of one. I'm like, now plus three or plus four. I think in terms of punishment payoffs.

[Stugotz]

Greg, he doesn't look anything like Ted Lasso. That's not a Ted Lasso.

[Billy]

I don't have to. I just have to be positive.

[Craig]

Well, first of all, I'm impressed that I've seen you in about a week. In one week he was able to grow that mustache. It's fantastic. And I thought it was Paul Skeens from the Pirates when I first saw him.

[Billy]

Thanks, Craig.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good reference.

[Stugotz]

Good baseball talk. You took the first pitcher to have an ERA under two and I don't know how many years with that many starts. I can't believe that you made a baseball reference. And furthermore, a Pittsburgh Pirates reference.

[Craig]

I mean, the playoffs are here. Let's go, America's pastime.

[Stugotz]

Woo.

[Craig]

You don't.

[Stugotz]

You don't sound great. Very positive. So you're so Billy, your job today is just to be relentlessly positive. Jeremy, you're overseeing the. The punishment.

[Billy]

He's doing a great job.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, I don't think he's doing a great job.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are they happening, Dan? Did they happen at all last year? Are they happening?

[Stugotz]

Well, I don't think that Billy is actually doing a punishment.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, you said you were hiring you Donnis Haslam as an enforcer, and until I have that, I'm just trying to get punishments off the ground.

[Jeremy]

Dan, you don't think Billy having to be positive for an entire show is a punishment? Ye.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a giant punishment.

[Billy]

That's tough.

[Jeremy]

Wait till we get into FSU week.

[Stugotz]

It is.

[Jeremy]

I love to see how he spins that.

[Stugotz]

It is.

[Billy]

What a game, huh?

[Stugotz]

It is.

[Billy]

They tried their best. The college game day almost came. They tried their mightiest there, but man, Virginia, what a team, huh?

[Stugotz]

It is a punishment for him to have to be positive. It just doesn't look like Ted Lasso. And I don't understand how it is that he got away with not doing a costume and is telling me, saying to my face that he's serving four punishments by just pasting a mustache to his.

[Dan Le Batard]

How does this work? If he says like a single negative thing does he have to redo it a different day?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, you've got to do it correctly.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's keep an ear out.

[Stugotz]

Let's keep an eye out. And an ear. Yes, just any ear. And a single eye out on Billy and make sure to keep an eye on him on this because he will. He will gravitate toward negative even though he's usually a little more positive when Cody's in. Do you have a Back in my day, Greg?

[Craig]

Back in my day. That's funny. No, I don't as a matter of fact.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why is it funny?

[Craig]

I wrote the book. I wrote the book on back in my day.

[Stugotz]

So you have just officially quit doing these?

[Craig]

Unofficially, I would call it, yeah. Not officially. There's been no statement from my team.

[Stugotz]

Zazzle. What are you shaking your head know about?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just once a week, man. Why can't you write it? I enjoy it. It's one of the things. It's one of the few things you do that I enjoy.

[Craig]

Wow, what a left handed compliment.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

I'd like Homer Greg Cody's thoughts on that game last night. Three terrible teams played last night and one decent one played last night. I believe the Broncos and Chargers have closed a good deal of the gap with the Chiefs. But what were your thoughts, Greg Cody? Homer Greg Cody. You thought the Dolphins this year were going to get to eight wins?

[Craig]

They have eight or nine. Actually nine.

[Stugotz]

They have a lot of games against bad teams, but they themselves are a bad team and they played a terrible one last night. Not they played a terrible game. The jets team is awful.

[Craig]

Yeah, just terrible.

[Dan Le Batard]

Easily worst team in the league right there. It was Dolphins. Jets are easily the worst.

[Stugotz]

They played one of the worst games I've seen anyone play this season. When you consider a defense that I think is historically bad in the Dolphins caused three turnovers when they hadn't caused any turnovers all season. And what they have 14 or 15 penalties. Like this is a Jets team. I remind you the jets did something this offseason or during training camp. I've never seen on a Sunday. They had off without the coaches. They went and they had a practice with no coaches where it was just the players. Can you imagine how many penalties and turnovers they would have had if not for that practice? This because they looked like an amateur outfit last night.

[Dan Le Batard]

They had over 100 yards in penalties.

[Craig]

Oh, it was terrible. Yeah, they're in tank mode now. Aaron Glenn, even Aaron Glenn had no cause to dance. Along the sideline last night because it was a terrible performance. They handed Miami the victory. Overriding everything, of course, is Tyreek Hill's injury. In the post game press conference, they were all talking about that injury. Mike McDaniel was five minutes into his press conference before he was even asked, hey, how about that win, huh? Because the win didn't matter. It was a pyrrhic victory. And I think that it's emblematic of the season that they finally win a game and they can't really celebrate because Hill just had a gruesome, very likely season ending injury. So, you know, they have Carolina next. They can be two and three for what that's worth.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're doing that already?

[Craig]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're counting wins?

[Craig]

I am.

[Stugotz]

But you trust them to win a road game?

[Craig]

I don't trust them. I think it's. I think they're capable of it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Of course.

[Craig]

I mean, okay.

[Stugotz]

I don't think they are.

[Craig]

I wouldn't say that for a lot of road games.

[Stugotz]

I don't think they are. Because I believe that first drive of the jets is what every team is going to. Every competent team is going to gut them running the ball like that.

[Craig]

Yeah, their defense was just terrible. They were lucky to win. They were lucky to play the Jets. They were lucky to be gifted three turnovers. It was not a great victory. When you get three turnovers at home and. And don't turn the ball over at all. And the last couple of minutes of the game is tense because the other team's only beyond by six. That's not a good victory.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was, it was weird where it was the middle of the second quarter and it felt like the jets were doing whatever they wanted offensively. They were running the ball all over the Dolphins. And then you look at the score, how they only three points. Yeah, they were doing whatever they want. It's like, all right, I guess it's okay.

[Stugotz]

It was 103 at the half, which stunned me. Also stunning me is that pot bellied Nick Folk is still in the league and kicking field goals longer than he ever has during that game. That's a career long for Nick. Long for Nick Folk. And Nick Folk has been kicking since the 1800s for him to have a 58 yard field goal in that game. The jets fumble at the goal line. The jets give the Dolphins the ball immediately as they start the second half on the kickoff like it was. It was just unbelievable to watch how bad the jets were.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was texting a friend updates of the game because he was out and so he wanted me to send him updates. And like, every update was, jets fumble, Dolphins recover. Jets get sacked, Dolphins recover. Like, he must have thought I was messing with him, that it was. They weren't real updates. What year you and your friend living in that he can't update himself? You know what? I didn't bother. Like, I thought there's like, hey, I'm out doing this. You know, can you send me updates? And of course I'm going to do, because he's my friend. But it's like the same amount of time it takes you to pick up your phone and look at the text message. You could just open up the ESPN app and see the score of the game.

[Stugotz]

It's weird. Does your friend not have Internet? Like, why does he need updates personally for you? That sound like Roy's Twitter account.

[Dan Le Batard]

But he's my friend, so I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to do the thing he's asking.

[Billy]

Yeah. I think the focus here is as. It's like a really good friend.

[Craig]

Yeah, I know, but the friend is, like, really backward. I'm surprised your friend didn't say, could you write me a letter and let me know how the Dolphins.

[Stugotz]

And send it with a bird to have a bird carry it to where it is that I am. But let's talk about this injury here for a second, because I thought Tyreek Hill's reaction was, at the very least, unusual, where he's leaving the field and he's smiling, and it seems like a forced smile. He's blowing kisses, he's on a cart. If you want to put up the photo, I warn you guys, it's gruesome.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it up right. As the warning was coming when.

[Stugotz]

When I saw Tyreek Hill on the sideline, just. He was. He was motionless on the sideline. And when I saw his leg going in the wrong direction, it was fair, immediate. That you can doctor Diagnose. You said might be out for the season. No, he's absolutely out for the season. And that's the end of his Dolphins career. Like, that's. That. That also obviously ends his trade value as well. The Tyreek Hill era is over in Miami, and what they got out of it was an exciting season and a half of offense and no playoff wins.

[Craig]

Right? Yeah. I don't think that's a stretch to say that his season is over, given his age, given his reliance on speed. It was a gruesome injury. Not just the dislocated kneecap, but an ACL ligament damage. We don't know yet whether it's nerve damage, which would be really, really bad as well. But, yeah, I mean, I feel bad for Tyreek. He was having a very good game. He was showing signs of having a better season than last year, and it's just. It's terrible. I feel bad. That was the spirit in Tyrique, though. I don't think that was a fake smile. I think that was him. You know, the first thing he said to Mike McDaniel on the sideline before he was hospitalized was, make sure our guys win this. You know, he was thinking of the team. I think he went out on a high note for such a gruesome injury.

[Dan Le Batard]

It was a really gruesome injury. It was really disturbing. Right, Billy?

[Billy]

I mean, I think what it really showed us was his true character and spirit on the field. You know, not necessarily off on the field. Man, what a leader. Did you see that?

[Craig]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Punching him out, punching players in the.

[Billy]

Face before the game, including Tua. Let's motivating.

[Stugotz]

Let's play the sound of Tua here, who had his cliches ready until he realized halfway through the cliche that Tua that. That Tyree Kill was injured and injured in a way that would echo throughout their post game. Because if you had any hope for the Dolphins season, it dies there. What they got from Darren Waller last night is not something they'll be able to get very much more without Tyreek H as a threat. That offense is going to be neutered no matter how many tackles Achan breaks. And hn's been great this year, running very hard for them.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can I just, like, add really quick before you show that, like, I understand what you're saying, that you're not gonna be able to get this out of Waller anymore because, you know, you don't have Tyreek Hill anymore. They paid Jalen Waddle to be a top guy. Like, okay, so I'm not trying to minimize Tyreek Hill's absence here going forward, but Jaylen Waddle is supposed to be a top guy. They pay him to be a top guy, and they literally drafted him in a spot to be a top guy.

[Craig]

I could not agree with Zasmore. He. He has the ability to be a WR1. He has the speed. He's not Tyreek fast, but Jalen Waddle is a very fast receiver. He's above average speed. He should be able to be the guy now who stretches the field and opens it up for. For the. The tight end.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think his role doesn't change. I think you're going to see Malik Washington step more into the tight.

[Stugotz]

Why. Why did you call him WR1? Why did you do that?

[Craig]

You know, I'm. I'm an NFL insider. You know, that's the lingo.

[Dan Le Batard]

We use it quicker just to say wide receiver.

[Billy]

I think Waller could get 27 yards again in a game.

[Stugotz]

Two touchdowns. You think he's going to be a two touchdown?

[Billy]

I think he'll get 27 yards again in a game.

[Stugotz]

Let's play the. Well, the number for him yesterday was 11 and a half yards over under in the game. That's how little the expectations were for him. Zaslow crushed Waller, and Waller's going to be on the show with us at some point today because that was a really nice return for Darren Waller. A nice story as well. He's holding the ball on the onside kick at the end after scoring two touchdowns. But let's play the sound of Tua when he went to some of his go to cliches and he realized in the middle of it, oh, and we've got a pretty major injury.

[Craig]

All glory belongs to God, my Lord.

[Dan Le Batard]

And savior, Jesus Christ.

[Craig]

Just want to thank him for this victory for us, keeping us safe for the most part.

[Dan Le Batard]

For the most part. Doing a lot of work there. Like, when would he have. Not included for the. Like he said. Okay, for the most part. Would he have left for the most part, out. If someone died, would that have been like.

[Stugotz]

There are only two injuries last night that the Dolphins could have suffered that would have felt quite like that. And they got one of them that felt like that. And I thought they were going to get the second when Tua's sliding and they're going after his head and getting an unsportsmanlike penalty for going after his head.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, he sold that. That was Kiko Maanoa, though. Yeah.

[Craig]

Former Kane Tua came up smiling, which was good. Keeping us safe for the most part.

[Dan Le Batard]

Guy's career might be over.

[Stugotz]

I mean, his Dolphin career is over.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's not wrong. Most of the guys did leave the game healthy.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, I do think that it was all right. I don't want to be. I'll be that guy. I guess, briefly. It was a very strange reaction to.

[Dan Le Batard]

I. I'm. I'm with you, man. I thought his reaction was. I was a little bit disturbed. I saw a guy who's got some odd thoughts going on in his head and felt, oh, my gosh, people like me for this moment. I feel like that's what I saw. I saw a guy of like, For. Oh my God. You actually.

[Craig]

Thank you so much.

[Dan Le Batard]

Like, I. I want so badly to be loved.

[Jeremy]

I mean, there are.

[Dan Le Batard]

I saw.

[Jeremy]

There are certain people that undergo traumatic experiences and their first reaction is to laugh like that. That is their emotion. But I don't know, it was just. It was, it was weird. It was like Antonio Brown vibes.

[Craig]

I have to agree that he was laughing instead of crying because he knew more than anybody this isn't just a bad injury. This is. I'm out for the season. This is probably the, probably the end of my career. I don't think that's over exaggerating to say that. I don't criticize him for not weeping.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think we're criticizing. We're more just like we're acknowledging that it was bizarre.

[Jeremy]

It was just a little bizarre.

[Craig]

Okay. I thought it was fairly normal. And the psychology you alluded to is accurate. Sometimes you smile instead of crying. You don't want to show your real emotion. So you, you have a forced smile.

[Stugotz]

Greg, when you say that reaction is normal. I've never seen it from someone on a cart blowing kisses to the crowd, waving and smiling. I say fist pumping. It's legitimately something I've never seen from a guy being. Look at how neighbors left the field.

[Dan Le Batard]

Usually towel over the head. It seems like they're crying.

[Craig]

Sure. Yeah. I know that he was devastated inside. He's trying to put on a base, the best face possible for his team. I really believe that. You know, he doesn't always come off like a team player and a leader. That's an understatement. But I think in the matter of last night and the way he went off that field, I thought. I think that was leadership.

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[Craig]

Wife says this sexy voice.

[Billy]

It really is. Yeah, I'm hard.

[Craig]

Thank you. Wow.

[Jeremy]

Stugats.

[Craig]

So am I, actually. I don't know why.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Stugotz]

I got a text from a friend of mine that says, with so many dangerously dumb things happening, where do you rank TO A refusing to wear the extra protective head wrap over his helmet? I have it at 27th. Dumbest thing, right after having TV commercials for prescription drugs and before the Meta glasses. To a should be that. That is strictly esthetics. Right? That is Shaq refused to shoot free throws underhanded even if he could shoot him 90% because he says, I'm not doing that. That's only esthetics. That is the reason that to a won't wear extra protective on his head. Correct.

[Jeremy]

I recall Chris Nowinski who once sit.

[Dan Le Batard]

Around waiting for head injuries, potential manslaughter.

[Jeremy]

It would actually work against what's wrong with TUA because it would make the helmet a little heavier.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Am I the only one that questions? I don't think Shaq would have shot 90% if he shot underhand. No, that's crazy.

[Jeremy]

He made them all in practice.

[Stugotz]

I'm just saying that even if he shot 90%, he said he would not do it. Even if I. Even if I guaranteed him 90%, he said he would not do it underhanded because he would not be seen in public shooting free throws at that size.

[Dan Le Batard]

A guarantee of 90%. You should definitely do it.

[Jeremy]

The science on these helmets still needs to get a little bit better. They look goofy. I mean, Dobbs is out there having three touchdowns, and I'm just thinking on my couch, I'm like, this guy's not good.

[Craig]

They look like Clown helmets. They look like those exaggerated caps that people wear that are like this big.

[Jeremy]

It's a bizarre look. It's a bizarre look. I can totally understand why someone like, aesthetically, I just can't do it because the science needs to come a little further. And also if you have a helmet that is like flints in it, it just looks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you think that because there was a receiver wearing it last night. I think I saw. Right, Yeah.

[Jeremy]

I mean, Dobbs had caught three touchdowns in him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you think the other players in the log, like, do they make fun of that guy? The other guys in the logger room?

[Jeremy]

I mean, it's a weird thing to make fun of. I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't look right. It looks weird.

[Stugotz]

Okay. And you guys are funny doing this particular thing where you're like, where you're saying out loud, you're saying, well, if it does help you, you have to do it. And I yesterday had the conversation with you guys talking about the fact that Wake Forest went for two to win the game. Georgia Tech. Wake Forest, by the way, Wake Forest at home is going for the win in a tie game with a two point conversion. And we talked about Tom Osborne who had the choice between winning or tying the game against Miami and getting the championship or going for two and not getting the championship. And you all argued, you all argued that given the choice between winning a game or winning a championship, you're going for winning the game.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think he was right.

[Stugotz]

Okay, but think about what you're saying. In what other instance would you say that I'd rather win just one game and not the championship? I'm. I'm choosing to. My choice is I can either win a game or get the championship if I just kick the extra point.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but winning the game wins you the championship. You're leaving that part out.

[Billy]

You lose the game, do you win the championship? I'm confused by this scenario. It's a great question. I'm just a little concerned.

[Stugotz]

Nebraska went for two and lost the championship. And if they'd gone for the tie, they would have won the championship and you guys chose the game. You guys are continuing to say that that was the right decision because I want both.

[Dan Le Batard]

I want the game and the championship.

[Stugotz]

Okay, but your choice was you can either tie the game and win the championship or you risk losing the championship and they lost the championship. And you're saying that's the right decision when you wouldn't make that argument in any other circumstance. If I gave you the choice between what's more important winning a game or winning the championship.

[Craig]

I think that's a good call by Tom Osborne. I don't think history has second guessed that. Certainly Kenny Calhoun thought it was a good call because his fingertip lives in glory.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tying a game to win a championship doesn't feel like winning a championship unless you're the Cowboys because they won that tie.

[Stugotz]

You say history looks favorably on Osborne. He lost the championship. What history would look favorably on is Nebraska would forever have had the championship.

[Craig]

Right, that's true. But he gets credit for, you know, having, you know, big balls. Yeah, yeah. Big footballs. He gets credit for that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Balls move.

[Craig]

Yeah. I mean, he could have. He could have kicked an extra point, tied the game, and then lost an ot. And then what?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't think they had OT back then. I think it was a tie.

[Jeremy]

Correct.

[Craig]

Not in the championship.

[Jeremy]

No, they didn't have.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, it wasn't a championship. It was a bowl game. That's back when they didn't actually have.

[Billy]

Championships and voters just decided that's a.

[Craig]

Bad call by college football. Got to get that right retroactively.

[Stugotz]

Thank you for that. You're welcome. I Enjoy talking about 1984 as both of our.

[Jeremy]

That was a real roundabout way to really dig into how goofy these guardian caps look.

[Craig]

I know they look terrible. I wouldn't wear one. They look like a cartoon. They look like somebody in a cartoon. Elmer Fudd would be wearing a helmet that big just so other cartoon characters could laugh at him. The technology just. I predict that in a year like next season, they're going to. They're going to get that right, and they're going to have extra protective helmets that don't look like ridiculous. Extra protective.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why would they have that now then, if they could do that?

[Craig]

Well, that's a good question. You know, I'm not a scientist.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, good, good. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Craig]

Yeah, yeah. People mistake me for one, but I'm not. And I don't blame TUA for not wearing one. There are so many other ways to avoid concussions. Okay. You dump the ball, you intentional ground it, you run out of bounds. There's a million different ways not to get a concussion, in my opinion.

[Stugotz]

You guys are really out here arguing. You gotta look good instead of brain safety. And furthermore. Furthermore, you're going don't trust the science, even though. And that's fair to say we're in the early part of the science. And it's a violent game. And I don't know what actually protects you from concussions. But. But what they have out there is helmets that, while they don't look good, are being worn because they add additional brain safety. And you guys are saying, no, I'd rather look good.

[Billy]

Well, I mean, it's not us saying it. The players are saying it, but also, like, the players, when you've asked them about it, a lot of them say it weighs more. It throws off my balance slightly. And even if it's just a millisecond, like, that's the difference between, like, for a running back, a gap closing, and then you can't break a big play. So they've chosen not to do so.

[Jeremy]

Which is what Krist Nowinsky, who I think we can all admit knows more about this than any of us, said, in Tua's case, it doesn't necessarily help. I have seen prototypes of these Guardian caps that do look a little bit more streamlined, and I imagine they're still in the testing phase. And I do think the science will come a long way. Like, we had leather helmets at one point. I imagine that's. That's how science usually goes. But right now, it looks goofy. It looks like it slows you down. It does add additional weight and stress to the neck. And there are also other ways. There's also experimental ways. I don't know if you guys have ever seen Dalton Schultz, but they have those woodpecker collars that also protect against concussions. Aesthetically, there are different options for players.

[Craig]

Yeah. And, you know, helmets used to be made out of turtle shells. In the case of a quarterback especially, you need to feel comfortable back there. You can't have the feeling of a giant helmet sloshing around on your head. You need that economy of movement up there and the lightness of the helmet, not extra weight.

[Jeremy]

And to Billy's point, the players are choosing this. I understand Dan wants to have this discussion and make us all the bad guys and project on us. No quarterback has ever chosen to wear this. It's on them. It's their decision. It ain't mine.

[Craig]

Right. By the way, Tua looked really good last night.

[Stugotz]

I don't trust football players on choosing.

[Billy]

Safety, trusting yourself to choose their body over them, choosing their body like that.

[Jeremy]

You could feel passionately about it. It's not my choice. They're speaking for themselves. None of them are choosing to do it.

[Billy]

Hn also last year, wore it for a little bit after he had concussion because his mom told him to wear it. And he doesn't seem to be, unless I misremember. He doesn't seem to be wearing it this year. So at some point he just decided not to wear it anymore.

[Stugotz]

I simply find interesting that you guys are choosing aesthetics over brain safety.

[Jeremy]

And it's not me. It's not me. Stop putting it on me. I am not choosing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Players are choosing.

[Billy]

It's not simply aesthetics though. They've said and they have chosen in trying to wear like we spoke to Austin Eckler last year who said it's just heavier and it throws my game off.

[Jeremy]

You're doing a straw man right now. The NFL has decided pretty overwhelmingly that anybody wearing that cap is an outlier at this point.

[Stugotz]

Straw man. My point is sipping simply that if I'm thinking first of safety, the people I'm going to least consult are people who have chosen a career in football as what they want to do with their life and their body. I'm trusting them less than I am the average human being.

[Billy]

No longer an ally of pro choice here. Body autonomy.

[Craig]

I mean, based on your logic, why don't we require every football player to wear a giant funny helmet?

[Billy]

Okay, Greg, have you seen the like the prototypes? I don't know if you've looked into it. Cause you're. I mean you look great. You're a slightly advanced age, but like with that comes experience and knowledge. So I don't know if you've looked into it. Have you seen there's like a product that's catered towards the elderly folk. Not that you're one of them, but maybe as you're getting closer to that where it's. If someone falls, their clothes kind of turn into like an airbag and then all of a sudden it just opens up right before they hit the ground.

[Dan Le Batard]

You should wear that.

[Billy]

And then that stops them from falling and hurting them. I wonder if maybe players that are susceptible to concussions have considered having the airbag closed where when they get hit, the airbag goes off and their head never hits the ground.

[Dan Le Batard]

He falls down. He's looking like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

[Craig]

Yes, that's an excellent idea. It really is. Who's in addition to the Stay Puft Marshmallow guy? Who's is it Goodyear?

[Dan Le Batard]

Michelin?

[Craig]

Michelin that has the big tire shaped guy. Yeah, that's what football players need. They should all dress like the Michelin man so that there's no real contact when you tackle the guy. He just literally bounces off you and hopes he bounces in the right direction. That's what football is becoming under Levitar's regime.

[Stugotz]

Put it on the Poll at Lebatard show. Were football helmets indeed once made out of turtle shells? Because I don't think you have it accurate. I know that Mike Ryan said leather helmets. I thought that was going back far enough.

[Craig]

Look it up.

[Stugotz]

You.

[Craig]

You.

[Stugotz]

Jeremy, would you do me the favor? I'm busy doing.

[Dan Le Batard]

I've been trying to. I can't find any proof, but I also can't find anything outside of artificial intelligence telling me that it's not the case. So I'm going to try to find something detailing the fact that it's a myth.

[Craig]

Yeah, let's believe artificial intelligence, which has a little line under everything. Saying this may contain inaccuracies. And when I say turtle shell, you know, if I'm being legit, I may have misspoken. I think it might have been tortoise shells. Small tortoise shells. Because turtle shells, Turtles tend to be very small. You know, some turtles are like this.

[Dan Le Batard]

If you end up being right, no one's gonna hold that against you.

[Stugotz]

What are the differences between turtles and tortoises?

[Craig]

Tortoises tend to be bigger. You know, tortoises tend to be, you know, that size. You know, like helmet size. Because when you're wearing a shell, a living shell, formerly living shell on your head, it needs to be a certain size. If you put a turtle shell on your head, it might look more like a yarmulker or something, you know, so you have to be careful.

[Stugotz]

Jeremy just told me that the differences between turtles and tortoises is that turtles live in the water and tortoises live on land. So it's not a size thing.

[Craig]

Well, it is a size thing as well, of course.

[Stugotz]

Well, but it's not, of course, according to Jeremy, who's looking it up. Because you said like Stugatz does with his move of look it up, and then you're wrong and someone looks it up.

[Jeremy]

We've had Ron McGill on this show for years. Tortoises generally larger than turtles.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's not why they're a difference.

[Jeremy]

Part of you, just like offensive linemen are bigger than quarterbacks. This is what we're talking about.

[Craig]

There's actually a species called the giant tortoise. I mean, why are we arguing? Get my hand on the.

[Jeremy]

I don't understand. Dan's assault on science today is just really confounding.

[Craig]

I mean, tortoises are bigger than turtles. Does that mean that there's a tortoise living who's smaller than the biggest turtle?

[Stugotz]

You said helmets were made out of turtle shells. Then you change it to tortoise shells. Neither one of them is right, and none of the information you've given so far is right, except that the jets stink and that you shouldn't be too happy about that victory if you're a Dolphin fan, because the injury that happened there is the injury that you cannot have. There are only two the Dolphins cannot abide.

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[Jeremy]

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[Craig]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

Are you with me on the fact that I believe that this defense is historically bad?

[Craig]

It was terrible last night against a bad offense. The jets ran all over other than is ridiculous to say but other than that 43 yard touchdown run they contained Justin Fields pretty well. He didn't have a great night passing but they were just unstoppable on the run. I think, I think the jets ran for 200 yards. Yeah, it's a really, really bad defense and they have to score 27 plus points to have a shot.

[Dan Le Batard]

He threw for 50 more yards in Tua. Justin Fields.

[Craig]

Did he?

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Craig]

Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Dan, are you, you're forecasting, right? Because they're, they are not yet the worst defense in the league. I think you have to be the worst defense in the league to then stay claimed to historically bad. Like from counting sets to dvoa. They are not bottom. I think in DVOA they are like fifth from bottom.

[Dan Le Batard]

They're actually getting better. They gave up 33 points. 33 points. 31. So you can 21.

[Jeremy]

I just want to be clear like you're making a prediction. You think it's the bottom's going to fall off?

[Stugotz]

Well, it's not just the bottom is going to fall off. It' 19 straight drives without making a stop. They've only played outside of the Bills bad offenses and the next, the next step that I'm taking on this is that when I'm watching what it is that they are doing defensively being gutted and allowing these nine yards a carry on defense and they're hurt on top of that I'm watching a team that I don't have any confidence in and I'd go a step further on this. This I didn't think when they're up three nothing and it's fourth and goal from the five. I don't think that they're going for it because Mike McDaniel is ballsy. It's because he knows his defense is bad and 6 nothing doesn't help you because he knows they're going to go right down the field because they can't actually stop people.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean that could be true. But going back three years ago in Mike McDaniel's first and second year as coach and the defense was fine. Like, he was going for that fourth five. Why didn't he?

[Billy]

That first drive, though?

[Dan Le Batard]

He's just like, I need points out of this. I can't have the booze if we don't get it here. Because he did take it that first drive. He's just like, I'll take the points.

[Stugotz]

Zaz. A fourth and goal from the five is still in that league with everyone, including Dan Campbell. It's still kicked. I thought that's a reaction to. I know how that first drive just went for the Jets. I know they drove right down the field. I know they kept just handing the ball off. Why would he trust his defense? It's not just bad, it's also injury.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what, like, you made a good case probably right there. And it's a little bit pathetic that early in the game the Dolphins are then saying, we have to get touchdowns to beat the Jets. Look, there is nothing that suggests that turtle shell was the NFL helmet. I've gone through a slideshow here on NFL.com of every single helmet from the beginning of the NFL all the way through today. There was fiber shell technology, which is what's used in like bicycle helmets these days, but nothing suggesting that. Greg, what you might be thinking of is that they referred to, to the sort of cap helmet that was worn by the British soldiers in World War II as turtle shell helmets. So you might just be getting those two things confused.

[Craig]

You know, any. Anytime we refer to something that goes back 100, 120 years, it's difficult to get an exact read on it. There are no witnesses who wore a turtle shell helmet in the NFL. So, you know, ying and Yang, you know, he said, she said.

[Jeremy]

It's hard, really. I think a month into the season with the sample to, to tell exactly what the Dolphins defense is. But just for added context, they played the Patriots, who are exactly middle of the pack in offense. Now, they could be middle of the pack because one of their games came against the Dolphins. The jets is the worst defense.

[Dan Le Batard]

Patriots also scored, what, 42 this past weekend, I think, right? The.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, they look good. I know they were playing Carolina, which is a weird team. The jets are easily the worst offense they've played so far, but the other half of their games, two of the top three offenses in the league in Indianapolis and Buffalo.

[Craig]

Yeah, I agree with that take. And, and I think it's also fair to say, although they were gifted the win last night against a bad team, I Do see progress from game one to game two to game three to last night they had Tua looked good, Achan looked good. They had a 96 yard drive. They had their best drive of the season.

[Stugotz]

I believe by the end of this season this will be the Dolphin defense. The worst we've ever seen by the end of the season.

[Jeremy]

Okay, crystal clear on that. I do think that you go out and get a Minka Fitzpatrick to mitigate some of your deficiencies on defense.

[Dan Le Batard]

I recovered that fumble.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, because that's how you do it with turnovers. You can have a defense that's bend, that even breaks occasionally. But if they make an impact play on defense and get the ball back, those are huge ways to mitigate some of your deficit.

[Stugotz]

Let me explain what happened this weekend with the Giants. For example, a limited offense that lost their best receiver. The Giants had, I think it was 40 runs and 20 passes. To protect their quarterback and to trust their defense, they kept, kept the ball away from Justin Herbert. The reason that I have fear about the Dolphins is because through a month in this season I have never seen a Dolphin defense that you can just hand the ball to the running back and it's going to be second and one every time. And what happened to the jets last night is they kept getting into second and 15 and second and 20 because they had all these pre snap penalties that, that made it so that they couldn't run the ball anymore. They had to stop running the ball and and Justin Fields made an impressive play on 4th and 1. That was that stop. What was called was stopped. But what you witnessed last night was one team was really poorly coached and the other one played a disciplined style of football. And on the road a terrible jets team that had not won a game, had three turnovers, had whatever it was, 14 or 15 penalties and is still playing on the road at the end for the game as an 03 team and they had to abandon the run and if they had not had to abandon the run because they're running back back fumbled at the goal line with the first drive, I feel like that game would have ended up looking like the Colts game looked where you're just never getting a punt because they can just keep handing the ball up seven yards at a time because they're also hurt. It's not just that they're bad, that their corners are bad, that they don't get much pass rush, they're also hurt.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll tell you the jets, jets were terrible last night. So much pre snap penalties, the fumbling is Stupid. A fair catch at the two yard line. I, I mean, what do we do? Like what's happening there? But I'll tell you, the reaction that the coach is getting. Aaron Glenn after just four games, I understand it's a bad team and they certainly look poorly coached. I'm a little bit surprised at how aggressive the reaction to Aaron Glenn taking over a bad jets team and what they're saying about what this team looks like. And the new coach, just for you, I read a little bit surprised.

[Stugotz]

I read an ESPN.com piece about Aaron Glenn' saying he's going to pay back Dan Marino. And because Aaron Glenn was the corner on the spike play. And after the spike play, I think the jets ended up losing like 33 of 36 games or something. Ridiculous. And, and last night what you watched is the most poorly, poorly coached game that I have seen this season from anybody. And that's why the Dolphins won the game, because the jets gifted it to them.

[Craig]

Sure. Yeah. I don't know if you can blame coaching for three loss fumbles. Maybe you can, but that was the reason for the loss. But the Dolphins had to recover those as well. To Mike's earlier point, for what this is worth, and it's not definitive, but there are six teams in the NFL giving up more points and more defensive yards than the Dolphins. So when you say they're historically bad, they. That has not shown itself yet.

[Jeremy]

He's forecasting, which could be the case. Look, this season I don't have much hope despite the victory and they just lost their, their best offensive weapon. It can go off the rails. But I do think Dan has to be clear that he's forecasting because the counting, the sats don't back it up just yet. There are plenty. There are way worse defenses in the league.

[Stugotz]

Give them time. I believe they will be worse than the defense that was 1 in 15 because of how they're getting gutted. Straight up the, the middle. Just straight up the middle. Yeah. I've never seen it through a month in the season. I've never seen a Dolphin defense that can be run on that way. And if they can be run on that way, then a team like the Giants can do something like hand the ball off 40 times to protect their quarterback and keep him just throwing the ball 20 times.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are we hearing Kenneth Grant's name called at all? Like, I get it, he's a rookie defensive tackle. It's a really difficult position. But should we be hearing it? That's my gimmick. Should we be hearing his Name at all.

[Craig]

First round. Yeah. You think so? Because he supposedly had a good training camp. I mean, he was awesome. They were raving about him.

[Dan Le Batard]

He was awesome in school. I just sight. I don't know. We don't see him. They were raving about the whole front seven.

[Craig]

Yes, right. And. And look, the front seven has a lot of good pieces, you know. Go ahead, I'm waiting. Jalen Phillips. Zach Seiler.

[Dan Le Batard]

Sealer is a good piece.

[Craig]

Whatever. Sealer. Seiler, whatever.

[Stugotz]

He's been here for a long.

[Jeremy]

He said.

[Craig]

It's such a weird pronunciation. It should be Seiler. Sealer. It should be.

[Stugotz]

I like Sealer. I like Jalen Phillips. I like him as a story. Jalen Phillips is the king of almost. He gets close a lot.

[Jeremy]

He's been getting close, but I mean, pressuring a quarterback, even if you don't get all the way home, that does impact the game big time. Like, he's still. He's still making contributions. He looked bad to start the season. I do think he's come on late, which is hopeful considering the injury that he's had and he's recovering from.

[Stugotz]

Did you like the Dolphin jerseys? The uniforms?

[Dan Le Batard]

Did you know that's part of why I'm wearing this right now? I'm showing you what a real jersey looks like.

[Jeremy]

I think it looked better in game action.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, hold on, let me clarify. The jerseys look great. They're just not Dolphins jerseys. That's all. Like, they're not Dolphins colors. They don't. Who am I watching? That's not the Dolphins. The jerseys are really, really good looking. I don't have a problem with what the jerseys look look like. They're just not Dolphins jerseys.

[Craig]

Right. It did not look like the Miami Dolphins last night, which is a good thing because what we've seen of the way the Miami Dolphins look is not something that you want repeated.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is what this is. What? A Dolphins jersey. You want to know what a Dolphins jersey looks like? Zoom in on me.

[Craig]

Right?

[Dan Le Batard]

This is what it looks like.

[Craig]

That's the original throwback.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what it looks like right here.

[Jeremy]

No, it's not the original throwback. That's.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is a Dolphin. This right here. This is a Dolphin jersey. This one. It's a Hall of Fame. Kramer. Zach Thomas should have been in Lauder sooner that he got in, but that's neither here nor there.

[Craig]

Where is it then?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's where it's supposed to be.

[Billy]

Started looking at playoff scenarios for the Dolphins today, tiebreakers and such. Yeah. Because they're tied with the Ravens right now. I don't know if you know. However, the Ravens win the tiebreaker over Miami based on best win percentage in conference games. The Texans also win the tiebreaker over Miami and Baltimore based on best win percentages in conference games. And right now, the Raiders win the tiebreaker over Houston based on strength of victory.

[Jeremy]

Just one game back of the Chiefs though.

[Billy]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

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