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Chris Cote
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Stugotz
You guys hear that sound?
Dan Le Batard
What's that?
Stugotz
You hear that? Wait, Everyone be just a little quiet. Just listen. Listen real carefully. You hear the pitter patter of footsteps? Because just like that, the Miami Marlins are back.
Chris Cote
He's right.
Billy Gil
Nine out of 12. Thirteen.
Chris Cote
Nine out of 13.
Stugotz
There you go. Swept the Giants big time.
Billy Gil
That's a good team making moves.
Stugotz
This is the beautiful thing about baseball, right? It's. You look at your record, you say, hold on. I mean, how. How can the Miami Marlins, who are 34 and 45, be on the move, right? But there's so much season left, still time, so much season left.
Billy Gil
Who would have thought the Marlins would be buyers?
Chris Cote
We're not even at the All Star break. Well, you never know.
Stugotz
You don't think they'd be buyers.
Dan Le Batard
Why not a little bit out of the seller. Not even in, last in the NL east anymore.
Stugotz
That's how you call your seller.
Billy Gil
May be still sellers, but they're not in the seller. And that's all that matters.
Jeremy Tache
So has Sandy been bad because he doesn't want to get traded?
Chris Cote
Sandy's been good.
Billy Gil
He's been good for his last four.
Jeremy Tache
Oh, he's good again.
Dan Le Batard
That's why you got to trade him now. Who knows?
Billy Gil
He's coming off of Tommy John. You know, it takes a lot longer than 10 months to actually come back from that. And his, his rehab was essentially in games during the regular season. Those were his rehab starts. So he's. He's looking back to normal. This is, hey, they lead baseball in hits and batting averages month.
Stugotz
Wow, There you go. And this month isn't like two days.
Billy Gil
Doesn't really matter in terms of scoring runs necessarily. But yesterday, hey, season high, 12 runs. Augustine Ramirez. That kid's Real good.
Stugotz
You know what they call it? They call it baby steps. Baby steps. You work your way up, you can't be awesome out the gate. You got to work yourself up with baby steps. Now, here's my question, though, because you raise an excellent point. The trade market is such a fickle thing. You got a guy, I got to get rid of him. I got to get rid of him. But no, his stock is terrible right now. We're not going to get good value back, okay? Wait till he starts playing well. He starts playing well, and then they say, gotta get rid of him. Like, I don't know. Hold on now.
Chris Cote
Hold on.
Stugotz
Let the man cook. Ten months at the. At the Tommy John. So, Zaz, are you of the belief that, hey, I had a plan from the beginning to get rid of him as soon as I got good return on value and I'm sticking to it, or do you adjust and say, look pretty good and we're winning?
Dan Le Batard
Well, okay, we're winning baseball. Still 162 games.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
All right. So, yes, they're winning right now. The fact of the matter is you only keep Sandy Alcantara if. If his prime aligns with when you think you're going to be a contending team. So this year, and the answer to that would be they don't align. So you have to trade him now, and maybe you get two, three huge prospects and you need all of it to align together at the same time.
Billy Gil
I will say the one thing when it comes to Sandy that that was always the case from the beginning of the year and remains the case because it's he's returning to form, is that Sandy is not in an expiring contract right now. There's two more years of control of one more year of the contract, one more year of a club option. So the reality is, is if the Marlins don't get the type of package that they want for a player like Sandy at this year's deadline, they hold on to him. And look, I know that ownership loves Sandy. This front office loves Sandy. This coaching staff loves Sandy. Sandy loves to be here. So it's the type of thing where some teams that go through a rebuild keep one guy as the Stalworth of that foundation moving through that. You can see Freddie Freeman on the offensive side with the Braves. He did that with them where they got bad and got good around him. Maybe Sandy is someone who gets to stay here for the long term. And if not, the Marlins really have all the leverage at the moment.
Stugotz
The rare opportunity to keep Sandy on The beach.
Jeremy Tache
If the marlins have won 9 out of 13, why is Dane Myers so upset?
Stugotz
I mean, so mad. Do we have this video?
Billy Gil
He's been so good.
Chris Cote
He.
Jeremy Tache
Very impressive what he did. So he struck out. Paint the picture here, Jeremy. What's the scenario here? Why is he so upset?
Billy Gil
It's just a strikeout. It's just a standard strikeout. In the regular season.
Chris Cote
Didn't he go like hit list in the series?
Billy Gil
Yeah, he had gotten his batting average up to about.330. He's been one of the best players on the Marlins this season. If they're going to have an offensive player who's at the all star game, he may be that player. Him or Kyle Stowers now.
Jeremy Tache
Well, they could have a pitcher for the audio audience. He snaps a bat that isn't broken over his knee. Now, are we holding against him that he does go for the thin part of the bat? He goes for the handle.
Dan Le Batard
No, because you know what, he does it so fast that when you. When you watch it in real time, you can't tell that he did it over the thin part. Like it? Look, it looks smooth.
Stugotz
Yeah, I don't. I don't think it was premeditated as one fell, swoop, grab, swing back. Right. But again, your team is up 8, 5. It's the fifth inning.
Dan Le Batard
He wanted to add on some runs.
Jeremy Tache
It's like a me guy.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Jeremy Tache
I mean, you guys are up.
Dan Le Batard
I don't think so. I think that's a team first guy he wanted to add on.
Jeremy Tache
He was mad, apparently. The announcers called it bush.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I don't. Do they understand what the definition of bush is? He didn't do anything wrong to any. It's bush. If your behavior is directed at the other team. Yeah, that's when something's bush. If anything, he just complimented the pitcher. He was so angry by the pitcher striking him out that he snapped a bat over his leg.
Chris Cote
What.
Dan Le Batard
What is bush about that?
Billy Gil
And by the way, after snapping that bat over his leg in the fifth, he came up in the eighth inning, singled the center after a walk to start the inning, ended up scoring. In that inning, Marlin scored four runs. So in his next at bat, he got a hit. All that is is just letting go of some emotion, getting to the next at bat and moving through it. And that's why Dane's had such a good year. He's been. He's been a really, really, really good center fielder for the Marlins this season.
Stugotz
That's how you bust slumps, boys. Take a bat Break it over your leg. Let everybody know you're upset. Some people might call you a me person. Don't just let it all out. Let it all out. Come back, drive in some runs. The idea, though, of a team that is eight games under.500 poised to make a run. Like I said, baseball, the season is so long, it makes everything in play, even the most ridiculous. One of my lasting favorite baseball memories was it was, I think, on Bob Costas show, and they had Mad Dog on there. And this was the year the Giants won the super bowl against the Patriots. Right. And also the year the Mets collapse. And, you know, Bob asked Mad Dog for New York radio, how would you rate those stories? Giants making this improbable run for the wild card, beating the best team of all time. It's a 9.9 out of 10 for us in terms of radio topics. The Mets being in number one at the beginning of September and missing the playoffs.
Dan Le Batard
Ten.
Stugotz
That's a 10 out of 10.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, that's 10.
Stugotz
That's a 10 out of ten. And again, that's the thing that can only happen in baseball.
Dan Le Batard
What a time to be alive in New York sports radio.
Stugotz
Oh, my God. Those two things happen.
Dan Le Batard
We got two stories. One of the 10 out of 10. The other one adds a 9.9, which you want to talk about today.
Stugotz
But the idea that, like, hey, even with, like, a month to go in the season or a few weeks ago in the season, you can still this whole thing up. Yeah. Is remarkable. And the opposite. Right. The opposite. Which is even though you've been terrible, going a little bit of a heater, all of a sudden, things don't sound so ridiculous.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah. Yeah. No, baseball. I mean, like, I remember when the Marlins won the World Series in 2003. If you're invested in a baseball team the entire season and that year, it was a summer where I was. It was my last summer in college. So me and my buddy were like, we're just gonna watch every Marlins game every night. And this is before the scene start. Marlins were supposed to be bad. We had no idea they were gonna be any good. Matter of fact, they started bad. They were 10 games under.500. They fired the manage. When you're invested in baseball, where you're watching every night and your team ends up being good, ends up being a storyline late in the season. Yeah. That's baseball at its best. Basel's really good. If you're invested, you watch every single night, and your team is in all this baseball talk.
Jeremy Tache
I'm gonna go next week. Yeah, 20s are in town. I call them the Twins.
Dan Le Batard
Have you not been this year?
Jeremy Tache
No, I've been. No, I call them the twenties.
Stugotz
The twenty twin twins.
Jeremy Tache
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Stugotz
Hell yeah.
Billy Gil
The fun part about this type of, part of an MLB season for a team that, let's be real, probably doesn't miraculously turn into a team that makes the postseason, is making a really fun run right now and maybe.
Stugotz
Oh, the NBA news, it never stops. According to Sham Charania of espn, who.
Dan Le Batard
Did he trade for?
Stugotz
Masai Ujiri is out as vice chairman and president of the Toronto Raptors. Sources tell ESPN this is a cataclysmic move.
Jeremy Tache
Could it be the guy who got drafted not being happy to be there? He's like, you know what?
Stugotz
I'm out of the.
Chris Cote
You don't want to be here.
Jeremy Tache
I'm out of here.
Stugotz
The last straw, like you drafted a guy who doesn't want to be here.
Dan Le Batard
But then you saw like on, on whoever's Instagram account. I don't know if it was his or the team. They posted a picture of him as a kid wearing the old school Toronto Raptors shirts.
Stugotz
That doesn't mean anything. Kids wear anything.
Jeremy Tache
Is that the rare happy F word? I'm so happy.
Stugotz
But so this is really interesting.
Dan Le Batard
So this isn't him like being moved to a different role. He's out of the organization. Out.
Stugotz
According to reports by Shamshirania. Here's, here's the issue, right? First of all, there's no way they did not want him around all of a sudden. This is one of those things where they knew.
Dan Le Batard
So you think he wanted out now here's the problem.
Stugotz
There were multiple jobs that were open this off season. The son's job was open, right? It went to Brian Gregory because he went to Michigan State. The Hawks job was open. It went to Auntie Salah, who's. Who was in that organization already. The Nuggets job was open. That went to Ben Tenzer and John Wallace both. One guy was working for the Nuggets. One guy had worked for the Nuggets, so there were opportunities for him to go out and get a job. They waited, all the jobs got filled, and now he's out.
Dan Le Batard
And he was in the final year.
Stugotz
Of his deal, and he's in the final year of his deal. I kind of feel like, did he.
Dan Le Batard
Want to interview and they didn't let him?
Billy Gil
Well, it says that Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment and Ujiri have decided to part ways as well. He was entering the final year of his deal, so. But, I mean, this does feel like the type of thing of saying either he was trying to get an extension, thought he might, didn't, and then now is frustrated that he knows he's going to be on his way out, or maybe that's a situation where he did want to go explore. The Raptors knew that his agent didn't handle it properly, and now he ends up fired.
Stugotz
You don't. You don't get to be as good as your job for as long as that guy's been good. And then it comes down to the agent mishandled it. Like, if him and the Raptors wanted to be together, they'd be together.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, so let's take a step back for a second, because you say there him being as good at his job as he's been, and. And yes, Messiah Jury has this reputation where he's, like, a really good executive. Okay, how good has he been? All right, like, we know in 2018, May made a huge move to trade DeRozan. We're going to take on Kawhi even though we have no guarantee that he's going to be here. They win the championship outside of that move, like, they're bad, and they bid bad for a couple of years. How. How good is he?
Stugotz
Actually, that's cyclical. First of all, being bad for a couple of years. Sam Presti was bad. For how long? For how long was he bad? Right. Not him being bad, obviously, but his team was bad.
Dan Le Batard
Oh. I mean, he's been there for 17.
Stugotz
Years, so it happens. It happens to the best of us. Jerry west was the GM of a bad team in Memphis. Right. Bob Myers came in and the warriors weren't great, and he got out as soon as they stopped being great. So I think. And obviously, we operate in a market here where the Godfather is being tarred and feathered on this show, people trying to push him out. So.
Chris Cote
Despicable.
Stugotz
Despicable. Exactly. And you know what he needs to do? Diamond to the forehead. Get it back.
Chris Cote
Get it. I gets it. You See him get up there. By the way, for everyone who's been questioning like his acuity and all of that stuff, you see when they made that pick him, get up there and bust out those dance moves. I mean, that's a man.
Jeremy Tache
Were those dance moves or finger guns?
Stugotz
Those were finger guns, but with a little pizzazz.
Dan Le Batard
And look what he was saying.
Chris Cote
You see veiled threats also as to like these are finger guns for now. But if this, this talk continues, might.
Stugotz
Turn into something a little bit.
Chris Cote
Might, might, might.
Stugotz
Gotta throw that out there. But yeah. So Masai has had a team that won the division a bunch of years ago, been to the conference finals, lost to a generational player losing a LeBron and built a champion on a very risky move, right? Not only trading the most popular player in the franchise at that point, but.
Dan Le Batard
For one year for a guy who.
Stugotz
Only had a year left for a guy who was coming off of injury concerns, Right? But it worked and nobody blamed him for it, matter of fact. And that's not even to mention like his tree. So like Tim Connolly, who is the GM of the Minnesota Timberwolves, he got to Denver after Masai left. Masai, the guy who's going to take over probably in Toronto, Bobby Webster is one of the brightest guys, one of the guys that people say this guy should be running his own team. It looks like it might be the opportunity right now for him. The question I have is what team in the league right now? Regardless if they just signed their GM or if they've had their GM for a while, it's like, ooh, massage on the market.
Dan Le Batard
Is there any teams that, is there any team that has an opening?
Stugotz
There are no openings. There are no openings at this point. Like they all got, they all opened and got filled. The last one being the Nuggets a couple of days ago.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, so he's going to sit out a year. He's going to collect on the final year of the contract.
Stugotz
Sure. Maybe a new job next year, maybe do some tv.
Jeremy Tache
Imagine the vacation he's just planning right now. Got like 12 months off. I'm going to go to. That's just like, I always think about that anytime a really rich person like gets out of work, I just picture them being like where you want to go, honey. Like, you know, just like planning like a three week vacation like across the world.
Stugotz
Not only that, but like I want to be rich, you know, how happy, you know, I worked with Tom Thibodeau when he was at espn. Guy. I've never seen a guy so Happy man. The dude was. He was joy every time he came in the room, slapping backs, making jokes, asking questions. Hey, how's it going? I'm like, wow, why does everyone. Why does everyone complain about this guy? This guy's awesome. Same thing with Sam Bankundy. Stan Van Gundy, we know him. We know the Stan Van Gundy that's fun and awesome and loves Blue Bloods and other terrible CBS shows.
Dan Le Batard
Love Blue Bloods.
Stugotz
And then there's another Stan Van Gundy. There's another Tom Thibodeau. There's probably another Masai Ujiri who the public doesn't see. It's the dark side. It's competitive side. I want to win. And that you can't turn that off. You're not like that at work. Close the laptop. Hey, honey, how was your day? No, man, that job follows you. It haunts you.
Chris Cote
What job is that, by the way? Like, I've yet to experience the job where I close my laptop when the day's done and I'm unbothered until I come into the office the next day.
Dan Le Batard
You only work at work.
Chris Cote
Like, what. Whose jobs are these? Because it doesn't seem to exist in this world.
Dan Le Batard
Good question.
Chris Cote
Because like, even my wife, who has a job that I would think has that.
Dan Le Batard
Like, what's her job?
Chris Cote
School counselor.
Stugotz
Still counselor man.
Chris Cote
Still gets like calls and emails and texts and stuff. Like outside of work hours.
Dan Le Batard
What if you work at a restaurant, you don't bring that work home.
Chris Cote
No, no, you would think. But like when I worked in retail, like when I was in college, I worked in retail, I had my schedule and you'd think it'd be like, okay, well, here are the hours that. That was one thing that they would do towards the end that I did not. Like when I started. 4 million dollars. Your store, when I left. 440 million dollar. Your store. Very different store when I left that. When I entered that store.
Stugotz
Take credit.
Chris Cote
And when I let. When I left, you left it in.
Dan Le Batard
A better place than when you got there.
Chris Cote
Some are saying that me, I'm not saying that it was all me. I'm not saying it was just me. But you know, no coincidence, you know, tenfold what it was when I got there. But I will say this. When I got there was like, just. Just give us like the times that you can work, right? And then when I left, it was like, we need a printed out copy of your school schedule so that we know we can't schedule you then. But like outside of that, we need people to be available all the time. And it's like, hold on.
Stugotz
Your life is my life. Is that what that's kind of.
Chris Cote
And I was like, hold on a second. So, like, they give you your schedule, but then they call you, like, oh, you know, Jeffrey called out today. Can you come in and cut? And it's like, why? Like, don't call me today. Why are you calling me to work retail today?
Jeremy Tache
You have a couple much bullet points. Like, what was the reason for the growth? Like, what did you implement?
Chris Cote
It's a good time for bras and panties in this country, if I'm gonna be honest with you. It was a good time. There was exponential growth. The Victoria's Secret fashion show was a cultural phenomenon at the time. Pink, the brand started taking off. Little doggies were everywhere. People wanted those plush doggies. It was a good time to be in the Victoria's Secret Empire. It might have been timing. It might have been me. Who knows?
Stugotz
How is it now?
Jeremy Tache
Do we know Right when he left, fell off.
Chris Cote
You know, we don't need to get into right now. They had those documentaries, turns out.
Stugotz
Oh, that's right.
Chris Cote
Dark secrets. Those Victoria. There were secrets at Victoria's Secret. It turns out. I wasn't privy to them.
Stugotz
What was Victoria's Secret?
Chris Cote
What was the secret?
Stugotz
Like, that. She was a. Oh, whoa. Scandal.
Chris Cote
Go out there. You thought it was just a dress. He's like, whoa, what's going on down there? That was a joke. Friends. I'm sorry. I see Jeremy over there in the corner is very offended. If Jeremy has.
Dan Le Batard
For Victoria, Jeremy has that.
Billy Gil
I'm just shocked that you said it.
Mike Ryan
Jeremy, you know something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?
Billy Gil
Of course I do.
Mike Ryan
I make it Miller time.
Jeremy Tache
Of course.
Mike Ryan
That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there. And I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down, and then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother, does that first sip.
Billy Gil
That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.
Mike Ryan
I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller Light, just thinking about it.
Billy Gil
It'S making me happy.
Mike Ryan
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Stugotz
How you love that cat phrase. Bad news for opposing teams in The.
Dan Le Batard
Triple A ST. All smiles till LeBron's eye. Clutch again. Clutch.
Chris Cote
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Victoria wasn't a real person either.
Stugotz
What?
Dan Le Batard
Wow, that's not a way to talk.
Stugotz
The rumor I heard was that Victoria's secret is that there is no Victoria and the dude's name is Victor and he's just kind of like some creep who's like, oh, I think they should wear this.
Chris Cote
I gotta be honest with you.
Stugotz
That was a rumor.
Chris Cote
There wasn't like a. Okay, so like when you get a job at most companies, you don't sit down for like a history lesson and of the company and where the names came from. So I don't know all of that. I don't know the name, where it came from and all that. I do know that there was all those documentaries and I think the business wasn't as booming.
Stugotz
Hey, Zaz, did Dan ever tell you why we're called Metalog Media?
Dan Le Batard
No.
Stugotz
Maybe. Maybe Billy's on to something.
Chris Cote
I do actually know the answer to that because when. When they told us the name, they gave us that like whole origin story.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, really?
Chris Cote
Something.
Stugotz
Yeah, yeah, right.
Jeremy Tache
Do you guys remember or like some bird of flight?
Chris Cote
Like, yeah, it's like some bird that rises with the dawn of a new. Or something like that.
Dan Le Batard
Really?
Chris Cote
Yeah, yeah, it's like something about do.
Jeremy Tache
Believe that was my idea.
Dan Le Batard
If I go back to Messiah Jiri.
Chris Cote
Yeah, yeah, sure.
Dan Le Batard
When do you think is the appropriate time for the wife? You know, Messiah Jiri, he comes home today, I assume he was already at the office. He comes home today, tells his wife, yeah, we're out, we're free. Like what's the appropriate timing for the wife to start planning the vacation? You know, like cuz, you know she's thinking about it. When do you get to start planning? Cuz you don't want to be. You don't want to be crass. Where it's like you're already online and you're checking further the getaway. You got to give a little time to breathe, right?
Stugotz
You're already on Expedia. Now I have Masai jury coming home and knowing it's only a matter of time before she finds out. So let me just stall this as long as possible. She said how Was work. It was fine. And then the next day you get up and you leave and you go to work.
Jeremy Tache
Of like, I'm still going to work.
Stugotz
Yeah, you get up, you get dressed, put on your suit.
Jeremy Tache
Goes to like Barnes and Noble, looks for a new job.
Billy Gil
Not even reading the classifieds.
Stugotz
Not even looks for a new job. Just sit there and just enjoy the silence.
Jeremy Tache
Like, that was me after the ESPN thing.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Jeremy Tache
Just going to like a coffee shop. I started a day trader account. I was like, I'm going to attack the market. This was during the pandemic, remember? This was like when everyone was getting in the stock market.
Stugotz
Did you tell your wife?
Jeremy Tache
Oh, no, I did. I'm half kidding. But there was a, like the couple days before I went back to the show, I did like in the morning, go to a coffee shop and I'm like, got my account here. I'm like, really getting that resume. You never know.
Stugotz
Do you get that weird attachment that people have on their laptops that opens up like two more screens?
Jeremy Tache
Oh, no.
Stugotz
I never understood, why do people need multiple screens? Maybe I'm an idiot. Maybe I'm an idiot and I live the blessed life just talking about people who chase balls around and stuff. But why do people need three screens?
Jeremy Tache
My wife's obsessed with this. She just got a third one. She's like, it's so exciting. Now my mouse moves across all.
Stugotz
It's just like, why?
Jeremy Tache
Yeah, why not just get one really big screen?
Dan Le Batard
I use multiple screens or Alt tab, Alt tab.
Stugotz
Alt tab, Alt tab. Altab. Altab. Why, why, why, why does. Why do you. Why do you like screens?
Dan Le Batard
I have two Screams screens in the Zazzle Mansion network studios. I use two screens. They're there for. They have different responsibilities.
Stugotz
Give me the responsibilities for each screen.
Dan Le Batard
Well, for instance, on one of them, I'm recording myself when I'm doing Zaslow Show 2.0. And on the other one, it might have, you know, my, my advertising reads or I'm on the Internet, you know, so they have different functions. They're both being used at the same time.
Stugotz
You stare at yourself when you're recording.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah, everyone does that. Right.
Stugotz
I'm. Look, I'm out here, I'm looking up stuff, I'm typing stuff. Especially. You do a solo show.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah.
Stugotz
There's no co host that you gotta read visual cues off of. No, you just stare at yourself.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I think everyone does that, though. I. I don't think that. I don't think that's a strange thing.
Jeremy Tache
I've never done a Solo show. So, like, usually if I'm in a zoom, I do see myself, but I'm looking at the other person.
Stugotz
Look at the other people.
Jeremy Tache
If I was doing a solo show, I might minimize it because I don't. What do I need?
Dan Le Batard
Like, well, yeah, I mean, it's, it's on a smaller screen, but I could see I'm looking, right. It's like I'm talking to myself. I'm my audience. I'm talking to myself.
Jeremy Tache
Sometimes. Do you laugh at a joke and you're like, the audience is.
Dan Le Batard
That's the, that's the hard thing that I've experienced. And look, I, I was doing a solo show my last couple of years on 7 idea ticket as well. But that, that's the one thing about doing the solo show is I, I, I can't laugh at my, like, I don't, I don't laugh at my jokes. I don't make a joke. There are people who make a joke and they laugh. You know, I don't do that. So I, I, I just. There's not any laughing on Zaz. I'll make jokes, but I'm not laughing. I don't laugh at my jokes.
Stugotz
Do you make the joke and then just pause and let that silence sit? So no people in their cars?
Dan Le Batard
I don't think you could do that when you're doing a solo show. I, I don't know if it has the same effect, but, yeah, that is, that is a thing I feel.
Stugotz
I just realized I can't remember the last time I listened to a podcast or a radio show with a solo host.
Jeremy Tache
Zaslow 2.0.
Dan Le Batard
Everyone out there. Zazlow show 2.0. All right. Like, rate, subscribe. Tell your mother I say hello.
Chris Cote
Samson.
Jeremy Tache
You don't listen to Samson either.
Stugotz
Not Sampson, not Bomani, not Coward. Like, if they have an interesting guest.
Dan Le Batard
All those people just like, especially cow. He's, he's got, like, the dopey guy.
Stugotz
You know, McIntyre and Rachel sometimes.
Dan Le Batard
And yeah, I'm by myself.
Stugotz
Yeah, man. I mean, like, I just, I don't know what that sounds like. I'm being honest. I'm not. It's like, I don't even know what that sounds like to listen to for 60 straight minutes of someone just talking.
Dan Le Batard
Right.
Stugotz
How do you break it up so it's not just one long? Like, it's not one long. Jeremy, answer.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I just, I, I guess I just know how to transition, you know, I know how to go from topic to topic. I use sound like, I'll play Audio bites. And I react to them, you know, throughout the show.
Stugotz
And those are on another screen that you got queued up?
Dan Le Batard
No, no, they're on the screen that I'm recording on. Because this way it's all in.
Stugotz
The multimedia is on one screen.
Dan Le Batard
That's right.
Stugotz
It's text is on aisle.
Dan Le Batard
Yes, correct.
Chris Cote
On. Back in the day also, you take calls when you had like the phone banks you'd have there and you have to call it. What is this call? Yeah, this and that.
Dan Le Batard
I wasn't a big caller guy though, when I was doing my radio show. You know, I feel like the people are tuning in to listen to me.
Chris Cote
I have some. Some closure. If you want to close some loops on Victoria's Secret and its founding and its name and all of that.
Stugotz
I love closed loops.
Chris Cote
So Victor Secret was founded by Roy and Gay Raymond. A couple. And Roy was very, you know, called him Gay Raymond. No, that was the wife. Oh, G, A, Y E. Oh, I thought.
Jeremy Tache
I thought that was.
Stugotz
I thought it was two dudes.
Jeremy Tache
That was an unfair.
Stugotz
It was Roy and then it was Gay Raymond. No, we just call him Raymond.
Jeremy Tache
That is not.
Stugotz
I just called him Raymond.
Chris Cote
Raymond's the last name.
Billy Gil
Yeah, like Billy.
Jeremy Tache
That's aggressive.
Chris Cote
Well, no, so like, Roy would go to the store, but Roy would be very bashful and going to the store because found it was embarrassing to be buying gay. The, you know, lingerie.
Dan Le Batard
So Gay Raymond.
Chris Cote
Yeah, it was an embarrassing situation. It was an embarrassing situation. So Victoria's Secret was actually founded to be a comfortable place where men could buy lingerie for. For women.
Stugotz
Really?
Chris Cote
I don't know. It says. Right.
Dan Le Batard
It's not a comfortable place.
Jeremy Tache
I don't feel safe there.
Chris Cote
Excuse me. Excuse me. It says right here in 1977, according to Wikipedia, in 1977, Raymond borrowed $40,000 from family and 40,000 from a bank to establish Victoria's Secret, a store in which men could feel comfortable buying lingerie. The store was.
Dan Le Batard
Who were these men?
Chris Cote
Roy Raymond.
Stugotz
Gay. Raymond Gay.
Chris Cote
No, that was the wife. The store was named in reference to Queen Victoria and the associated refinement of the Victorian era. While the secret was hidden underneath the clothes.
Stugotz
Bodices and chastity belts and stuff like. Okay, all right, I'm with it.
Jeremy Tache
I don't feel safe walking in that.
Stugotz
No, I don't at all.
Chris Cote
I thought it's changed since all Roy Ray.
Stugotz
So what was it like back in the day? They had like beer and sports on TV and stuff like, hey, come buy your wife some draws.
Chris Cote
I don't think so.
Jeremy Tache
I have a thing with my wife where every Christmas I buy her a 50 gift card, which is barely enough at that place.
Billy Gil
Geez, that place.
Chris Cote
I even get a bra for that.
Jeremy Tache
Maybe I do more, but, like, I always do that, and I just make a beeline for the register. What am I gonna peruse in here? You can't a can't peruse in Victoria.
Dan Le Batard
Hold on. You look creepy. Billy just said a $50 gift card barely gets.
Jeremy Tache
Oh, it gets you nothing.
Dan Le Batard
I. I'll be perfectly honest. I have no idea how much a bra cost.
Jeremy Tache
I just know it's expensive, cuz I.
Chris Cote
Know that's what you want to get.
Dan Le Batard
I don't have a clue. It could be 10. It could be $9.99. It could be 1 99. I have no idea what a. I.
Jeremy Tache
Think a nice set is like close.
Billy Gil
To 50 bucks a set.
Dan Le Batard
What does that mean? Like multiple.
Chris Cote
Like the.
Jeremy Tache
The lingerie, the bra and the panties. Like a set.
Stugotz
If I'm miss it more than 50.
Chris Cote
More than 50.
Stugotz
I'm Mrs. Zazzle right now.
Chris Cote
Jeremy's looking at girls and br. HR Jeremy's looking at bras on his computer. HR trying to company computer. Jeremy.
Jeremy Tache
How much are they?
Chris Cote
Jeremy's looking at bras and his Victoria's Secret cat, nsfw.
Jeremy Tache
All right, how much? Your show research. What'd you learn?
Billy Gil
Yeah, Jeremy, I had to exit the tab.
Stugotz
Stay strong, brother.
Chris Cote
I'll go back.
Stugotz
Stay strong, brother. Sometimes you got to do show research, and they want to shame you for.
Jeremy Tache
Show research because you're trying to be more.
Chris Cote
Who knows?
Stugotz
Stay strong.
Chris Cote
You see, your friend gave the heat a D plus.
Stugotz
Who gave him a D plus?
Chris Cote
Your friend. Your friend from that incident that you were just referencing. Your boy.
Stugotz
He seems to not like this. This organization.
Jeremy Tache
He had the guy that he drafted going like 14 or 15, and then he'd get him at 20, and he said, and it's a D plus pick. That was like, I don't get that.
Stugotz
He seems to have like a. Like a distaste for this organization at every turn.
Chris Cote
There's boobs on Jeremy's computer right now.
Stugotz
What?
Jeremy Tache
All right, how much? What is the research? You're doing the research?
Dan Le Batard
Jeremy not even face told on Chat GPT that bras can be between 30 and 70.
Jeremy Tache
Just the bra.
Chris Cote
Wow.
Dan Le Batard
No idea.
Chris Cote
No bundle.
Billy Gil
Except there's one for 8.99.
Chris Cote
8.99.
Dan Le Batard
See, I told you 9.99. I was close.
Chris Cote
Where is that from? Go back to that. No, go Back to the tab.
Dan Le Batard
One color? The 8.99 one. Just one?
Stugotz
One big cup?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, just one cup.
Billy Gil
That's what I thought he was saying when he said pear. I was like, oh, otherwise if only.
Jeremy Tache
We had someone that used to work there that could tell us what the price.
Chris Cote
I told you, I told you, he's probably not gonna get it done. The thing is, they were always launching like new bras and then they would like, there was a new bra.
Jeremy Tache
Technology, the latest bra.
Chris Cote
No, the girls that worked there loved it because like sometimes they would either give you like a discount or they like, you could claim one. And then it was cuz the, the, the idea was then you'd like tell the clients, oh, this is, you know, comfortable, blah, blah, whatever. For me it was just like, I'd give it to like my sister, like my mom or whatever. And then like the perfumes and stuff like that, like when there's new ones, they'd give you samples and I just find people to like give them to. Cause I mean, I didn't need them.
Stugotz
Chris, how would your wife feel if you like, hey, honey, I left the show. I don't want to do this media thing anymore. I'm gonna work at Victoria's Secret now.
Jeremy Tache
I mean, I don't think she would be jealous if that's what you're like. I mean, I think she'd be like, how much are you gonna be making?
Stugotz
Let's assume the money is this even, Break even.
Dan Le Batard
I mean like, she'd ask you what the discount is, right?
Jeremy Tache
Yeah, I think she'd be fine with it.
Billy Gil
And what's the level of stability?
Stugotz
Have you seen the media recently? So I'm saying it's all about stability. Shit, ain't nobody here got stability. Stability. You know about stability?
Billy Gil
That's why I'm saying she'd probably be happy.
Stugotz
Yeah. Matter of fact, you're on the site right now. Get Victoria online opportunities. Look it up.
Billy Gil
Job opportunities. I got you.
Stugotz
All right, let me see. Because I'll do it right now. I'll do it live on air.
Chris Cote
What will you do?
Stugotz
I'll quit this job and I'll go work at Victoria's Secret.
Chris Cote
Very stable.
Stugotz
Stability.
Chris Cote
Why stability?
Stugotz
Oh, stability. All tab stability.
Jeremy Tache
I think we have three years.
Chris Cote
Boobs again. Boobs again. On his computer.
Stugotz
That's employment opportunities.
Billy Gil
Surprisingly enough. Yeah. The first picture, that's what's there. Here's about the culture. Fostering a happy, healthy and inclusive culture is our top priority. We believe in our associates. Giving back to our communities and putting the customer first. It's been that way since our beginning. I will find job opportunities.
Stugotz
I'm gonna bring the culture back. I'm gonna bring on some flat screen TVs, sports on kegerators. We're gonna make this a safe space for guys to walk in and buy lingerie for their women. That's the original. That's why they founded the place. That's why they founded the place.
Chris Cote
I don't know if that's gonna work.
Stugotz
Imagine a Chick Fil A all of a sudden started selling, like, I don't know, hot dogs. And then everybody's like, oh, I love the Chick Fil a hot dogs. And, like, I would come in, I'm like, I want to take it back to why it was found. They wanted chicken.
Chris Cote
Is that what Dairy Queen does?
Dan Le Batard
Dairy Queen's got that chili dog. I told y' all the player.
Stugotz
I gotta get back to Dairy Queen. I gotta go in there and say, hey, guys, we've lost our way. We're Dairy Queen. We're not Hot Dog Queen. We're not Chicken Strips Queen.
Dan Le Batard
They also got pretzel bites.
Stugotz
Pretzel Bite Queen.
Billy Gil
Would you like a job in corporate at the distribution centers or in stores?
Jeremy Tache
You could see me working Victoria C. Corporate.
Stugotz
You can see that, what, in a meeting room and a chart. Q3 sales are up.
Chris Cote
This is our newest technology.
Stugotz
He's blushing the whole time during the meeting.
Chris Cote
I will say this in terms of stability. Like, some weeks I got 20 hours, some weeks I got four.
Stugotz
No way.
Chris Cote
Yeah, it's like it goes up. It's ebbs and flows depending on the year. They have a lot of like. Like, seasonal. Look, I'm speaking on the way things were nearly 15 years ago at this point, if not more so. Like, there's ebbs and flows, there's the busy seasons. There's a semiannual sales.
Stugotz
What's the busiest season for other than Christmas? That.
Jeremy Tache
I think you just nailed it.
Stugotz
Christmas is a busy season for every retail place.
Chris Cote
So that's a busy season. And Valentine's like a semiannual sale. Yeah, but that's like, not a season season. You know what I mean? That's like the week.
Jeremy Tache
Yeah, but I bet you get a nice little bump that week. Like the week leading up. Yeah.
Chris Cote
Then like. Yeah. Then like the day, the couple days after. Then you're dealing with returns, and you're like, is this a size thing or is this like, they wore it? Yeah. Like, it's a whole.
Stugotz
How do they handle that?
Chris Cote
Can I tell you the strangest one that I remember? Was like, someone came and was like, I bought this bra five years ago. And like, it's worn out now, and it didn't last. And it's like, well, yeah. Cause you wore it for five years. And then like, I had a manager who's like, okay, we'll honor that. And I'm like, what? I was like, wait, what? Like, you.
Stugotz
This is like the old Costco policy. Remember Costco? It's like, you could come in. It's like this TV stopped working. I bought it seven years ago. They're like, all right, well, we don't carry that one anymore, so get the equivalent, which is this brand new flat screen.
Chris Cote
You know what I learned in retail? A lot of it is all about the attitude in which you bring to the table on some of these exchanges and returns coaches. Like, if you're coming in hot. And like, it's a judgment call, which a lot of them. It's like a judgment call. You're like, all right. Like, I'm not gonna. You're here screaming at me like, I'm not gonna be putting up with this. Like, you can go.
Jeremy Tache
You got a good shot.
Chris Cote
If you're nice a lot more often than not. Like, if you're nice, they'll be more willing to help you on certain things.
Jeremy Tache
Is that not a life? I mean, that if you're like, really?
Billy Gil
I do that all the time.
Chris Cote
You're, like, really, really difficult, though. And it's like, you have the right person. They also just want to get you. They're like, whatever you want, man. Just get out of there. So, like, it's saying you have to.
Dan Le Batard
Be on one extreme or the.
Chris Cote
Exactly. Either really nice or like a per.
Jeremy Tache
Threaten to call corporate.
Stugotz
So I don't know about retail, but I know, like, for flights and hotels, right, when they mess up, I tell my friends all the time, you have to go ballistic. Because if you're like, oh, man, like, I miss my. My. My kids wedding as a result, and they're like, okay, we'll give you 7,000 miles. I'm like, 7,000 miles.
Dan Le Batard
That's nothing.
Stugotz
That's nothing. Right? As opposed to, I'm gonna. I once called American Airlines and told them if I have to pay for this hotel because they messed up, I.
Jeremy Tache
Will tweet about this.
Stugotz
No, I'm famous. Well, I brought that up secondarily.
Chris Cote
Really.
Stugotz
I said, if I have to pay for this hotel tonight, so I can fly on them, I'll do it and I'll fly out tomorrow morning. But from here on out, every single Trip I take no matter how many connections will be on Delta Airlines. And I will tweet about it every single time. And I've got followers. I'm on tv, I'm on Sports Nation. I just. I hit them. I layered all that stuff. So you either connect me with someone who can get me a voucher or just know it's your ass. And I know they review every quality.
Dan Le Batard
Your call is being recorded for a quality insurance.
Stugotz
For quality insurance. I'm assure you this quality. And hold on for a second. Okay, we got you. They not only got me the voucher for the night that they said they couldn't do. Can't do it. Sorry. That's a good surprise. You can't do. Got the voucher for the night and a. Like, a voucher for the bar. Got dinner paid for and a beverage.
Chris Cote
I don't like that you would have gotten. My next offer would have been 5,000 miles. So that's how you came at me. I would have said, nope, not today.
Billy Gil
Chris, with the two days of day trading finance, is that the right place to go for you here on the job application? I'm just trying to figure out which category.
Jeremy Tache
Head of mannequin assessment.
Chris Cote
That's what. Jesus. I had. I had a time where I went.
Billy Gil
I got tickets, visual merchandise.
Chris Cote
I got tickets to Wrestlemania when it was down here, like 10 years, 20 years ago, whatever. It was, right? And like, I was just like. Because it was a spectacle. I liked wrestling growing up. I'm like, it'd be really cool to just go to a Wrestlemania, right? So I was. I was given tickets. When we get there, they're in the upper deck. Yeah. And it's blocked view because they have these big palm trees, like, in the corner, whatever. Because they have a tent. And I. We weren't expecting it. So people are, like, really pissed off. They're all upset. They're all like. The customer service line was, like, crazy. Like, I can't see. They're going crazy, crazy looking for anything to do.
Dan Le Batard
They'll move into the floor.
Chris Cote
So my. My wife goes over and just, like, goes up to, like, you know, someone off the sides. Like, hey, you know, like, I was just. We had this issue. We can't really see, whatever. And the woman just hands her two tickets and is like, go. Yeah. Like, just leave. Don't say anything. Just walk away and go.
Stugotz
There you go.
Chris Cote
We were like, 100 level, like, 20th row, like, right above where the cameras are crazy up.
Dan Le Batard
Did your wife love it?
Chris Cote
It loved it.
Stugotz
Wife Lane.
Mike Ryan
Jeremy, you know Something about me, right? You know when I'm grilling outside and it's summertime? You know how I supplement my summertime?
Billy Gil
Of course I do.
Mike Ryan
I make it Miller time.
Jeremy Tache
Of course.
Mike Ryan
That beautiful white can. Oh, when it's so hot outside, I just. I just put it right to my forehead right there. And I just roll it sometimes right on the forehead, cool my body down, and then I crack it open. Instant relief. And then that first sip, brother, does that first sip.
Billy Gil
That is a top five sequence of events that you can possibly go through.
Mike Ryan
I'm just serenity now. When I just imagine that first sip of Miller life, just thinking about it.
Billy Gil
It'S making me happy.
Mike Ryan
Dude, the sun is out. It's nice. You have your friends showing up. You got your family there. You just had your first sip of Miller Lite. And you know what? You're happy. You're blissful. You're fulfilled. I've been stocking my cooler with Miller Lite four years, and for good reason. It's brewed for taste only. 96 calories and 3.2 grams of carbs. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. It's the original light beer and it's still my. Go to Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: Billy's Secret
Release Date: June 27, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Chris Cote, Billy Gil, Jeremy Tache
The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic discussion about the Miami Marlins' unexpected resurgence in the baseball season. Despite their modest record of 34 wins and 45 losses, the team has recently swept the San Francisco Giants, winning 9 out of their last 13 games.
The hosts delve into the implications of this turnaround, debating whether the Marlins are poised to enter the trade market as buyers despite being out of playoff contention.
The conversation centers on pitcher Sandy Alcantara's future with the Marlins, considering his performance post-Tommy John surgery and his pivotal role in the team's recent success.
Sandy Alcantara's exceptional performance has sparked trade rumors. The hosts analyze his statistics and discuss whether the Marlins should capitalize on his momentum.
They explore the strategic decisions behind trading a star player versus building around him, considering the Marlins' long-term prospects and organizational preferences.
Transitioning to the NBA, the hosts address the surprising news of Masai Ujiri's departure from his role as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors.
The discussion covers potential reasons behind his exit, the impact on the Raptors' future, and Ujiri’s reputation as a top executive in the league.
Dan Le Batard shares his experiences transitioning to hosting a solo show, highlighting the challenges of engaging an audience without co-host interactions.
The conversation touches on the technical aspects of managing multiple screens and maintaining audience engagement during solo broadcasts.
A humorous segment unfolds as the hosts discuss their time working in retail, specifically at Victoria’s Secret. They explore the brand's origins, challenges, and customer service anecdotes.
The dialogue includes playful banter about job roles, return policies, and the evolving culture within the retail giant.
The hosts share personal stories about handling difficult customer service situations, emphasizing the importance of attitude and assertiveness.
They compare different approaches, from maintaining politeness to adopting a more aggressive stance to achieve desired outcomes.
The episode wraps up with lighthearted exchanges about personal habits, such as enjoying a Miller Lite on a summer day, and reflections on maintaining professionalism off-air.
These moments provide a fun and relatable end to the episode, reinforcing the hosts' camaraderie and diverse interests.
Miami Marlins' Potential: Despite a below-average record, recent performance suggests potential for significant mid-season moves, especially concerning key players like Sandy Alcantara.
NBA Leadership Changes: Masai Ujiri's exit from the Raptors signals possible shifts in the team's management and future strategies.
Media Dynamics: Hosting a solo show presents unique challenges in audience engagement and content delivery, highlighting the importance of adaptability and technical proficiency.
Retail Insights: Experiences at Victoria's Secret offer humorous yet insightful perspectives on customer service, brand evolution, and the intricacies of retail management.
Personal Stories: The hosts' anecdotes about customer service, personal habits, and professional life add depth and relatability to the discussion.
Stugotz (02:20): "Baby steps. You work your way up, you can't be awesome out the gate."
Billy Gil (03:45): "Sandy is not in an expiring contract right now... if the Marlins don't get the type of package that they want for a player like Sandy at this year's deadline, they hold on to him."
Dan Le Batard (27:00): "I can't laugh at my jokes. I don't make a joke."
Chris Cote (29:03): "Victoria's Secret was actually founded to be a comfortable place where men could buy lingerie for women."
Mike Ryan (41:12): "I make it Miller time... that first sip, brother, does that first sip."
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a blend of sports analysis, personal anecdotes, and humorous exchanges, providing listeners with insightful discussions and entertaining commentary on current events and personal experiences.