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Stugatz
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Mike Ryan
Cuervo? Anyt says Cuervo, I show up.
Stugatz
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Mike Ryan
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Stugatz
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Mike Ryan
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Stugatz
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Mike Ryan
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Stugatz
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Mike Ryan
Cuervo Thunder can have as many as 13 picks over the next seven drafts. I've got Parade correspondent Greg Cody here. He's sunburned.
Greg Cody
Ugh.
Mike Ryan
I can't remember the last time he was this sunburned. You're not exactly bronze, but you're a very dark pink with a lot of makeup over it that makes you look bronze brown.
Greg Cody
Well, thank you. I was tomato red yesterday and didn't even realize it until I got home. And other son Michael and his new wife came over for dinner and I opened the door to let them in because Michael keeps losing his key to my house and they're like gasping at what I look like because I was completely red. If I take off my glasses, I. I had the raccoon face and I'm not used to that. I spent three or four hours in sun that was $102 pistol. And I just couldn't. I didn't use sunscreen. I wasn't prepared.
Mike Ryan
How did you not know? As a lifelong South Floridian, how are you an amateur around the sun? I will tell people that Greg Cody has been known on occasion to vacation in a way that takes him out to Hollywood beach where he drinks so many beers that he just falls asleep in the sand and then wakes up in the morning.
Greg Cody
Yeah. Fort Lauderdale beach.
Mike Ryan
Also sunburn.
Billy
I don't think I've ever seen my dad put sunscreen on. Yeah, cuz you've. You've had me and Michael redheads that like, we go out in the sun. My mom's like, she worries about us. I don't. Do you wear sunscreen?
Stugatz
No.
Greg Cody
And I'm not bragging because people should, but unlike yourself and your. Your brother and your mother have what I would call fair complexion. Right.
Billy
Thank you for pointing that out.
Greg Cody
Redhead complexion.
Mike Ryan
Well, you're leathery. You're. You're reptilian, you're leather.
Greg Cody
Yeah, right. I have. I have the skin of a crocodile and. And I'm naturally bronze, so I don't consider myself sun to sunburn, but I did in this.
Mike Ryan
You're not naturally bronze. You're closer to naturally pink. Not as pink as you're.
Greg Cody
I don't think so.
Dan LeBatard
No, no, no, come on.
Greg Cody
No, I have a dark complexion. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Does he.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. No, no, no, no, not darker. Bronzer. Naturally bronzer.
Greg Cody
Yeah. I think Billy's right on the.
Dan LeBatard
Like the skin of an alligator, some say.
Greg Cody
Yeah, right. Reptilian.
Billy
Show us your right arm right now. Bad arm week.
Mike Ryan
Is it a bad arm week?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
Well, it's not his fault. He was thrust into the sun.
Mike Ryan
Oh my God. What is that? What happened to your arm?
Greg Cody
It's, you know, it's. It's.
Mike Ryan
Did you fall down?
Greg Cody
No.
Mike Ryan
What? It's scarred, is it not?
Greg Cody
No, it's not a scar.
Billy
Are you trying not to talk into the mic?
Greg Cody
It's a bruise.
Mike Ryan
He has not done this very long. He still doesn't know how to do it. Do you know, Chris, I left here the other day. I'm not even making this up. I left here the other day laughing sort of at the idea of your dad never knowing that we're doing a show around him. After all of these years, he's still. He's so comfortable here that he forgets where the microphone is because he's just fooling around all show.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, you'd think you guys are old pals, that you'd just be interested in talking to him about the sun, about his complexion, stuff like that. Like, why did he ask for content?
Greg Cody
Right. We're having a conversation here. You know, Microphone, microphone.
Dan LeBatard
Greg, you got to be careful, though, with the sun. That's what got Jimmy Buffett.
Stugatz
Yeah.
Greg Cody
You know what? You're not wrong.
Mike Ryan
I mean, Greg, it's moronic to live here all your life and never use sunscreen. Your skin is not supposed to be that reptilian.
Greg Cody
Yeah. But the thing is, I'm not a sun person. Like, I'm not. Like, my dad used to lay out on a chaise lounge in the backyard. Yeah. And personally get sun, you know, and. And my brother and I used to, you know, call them nicknames that were inappropriate because they.
Billy
Yeah, we don't need to go there.
Greg Cody
We're involved.
Mike Ryan
Let's not do that. Oh, my God.
Billy
When I jumped in mid sentence to stop.
Mike Ryan
I mean, like. I mean, stop.
Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugats podcast.
Mike Ryan
For so many years before the Panthers were relevant. I would love hopping into this time of year right after basketball, right after getting into the next two months of just baseball, and we're going to be fooling around most of the time. That was an anticlimactic final last night, or as anticlimactic As a Game 7 can ever be, because Indiana did everything they had to do to win that series except win it. Like, they. They got four out of the seven games. They outplayed okc, made OKC play their way, but they lost one of them. The one where OKC made the threes. The three threes. And so I don't know whether you guys found that unsatisfying as a championship because Halliburton got hurt. And I so badly wanted to see that young team tested at the end. Show me you're a champion. Because every team that's ever had a regular season, like, they had win title easily, like, loses three times in the playoffs, max, the entire time. Because they were an overwhelming regular season team and they were there to be taken. You would have had the. Not merely what is already the best Indiana basketball team there has ever been, but you would have had the biggest surprise in the sports history in a game seven on the road. I wanted to see OKC tested that way and I end up getting disappointed by that final. But before we do all of that, I do want to celebrate with our parade correspondent here, a sunburned Greg Cody. He was out there for hours yesterday. Did any of you guys go? Did anyone go to the parade or is this old hat for you guys now?
Dan LeBatard
No, I went to the parade.
Stugatz
I was sitting right next to Greg.
Greg Cody
Yes, we were.
Mike Ryan
Are you parade people? I'm not a real. I don't like being anti parade, but I'm not a parade people.
Billy
You really give off parade.
Stugatz
Yeah, I was. I was considering it and then woke up and I like, it's probably going to be hot.
Dan LeBatard
Really?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Stugatz
So I was like, it's far and, oh, it's a bright line situation. I'll just. I'll just watch.
Billy
I was going to go and then my daughter woke up and was like, I want to go. And my wife was like, I don't trust you out there for seven hours with our daughter, so we'll just watch it at home. So I stayed home.
Chris Cote
And I don't. I don't do events like that. I don't do. I don't do things that I can't. That I'm not in control. Like I'm.
Mike Ryan
I just.
Chris Cote
I don't do parades. I don't tell you.
Mike Ryan
Well, this. This team is. This team here has already soured on the idea of hiking out to Fort.
Stugatz
Lauderd to be in control of the championship celebration.
Chris Cote
No, like, you know, if I'm at the parade, I'm stuck. What if I want to leave? What if I want to go home? Oh, that's right. My car is a thousand miles away. What if I want to walk through this street? Oh, it's blocked off. Okay, great. I got to go five blocks north. Like, I. I don't do that kind of stuff.
Greg Cody
I don't. I can. I can see what Zaz means because I lived that yesterday.
Billy
You got a hotel just to avoid driving your wife.
Greg Cody
And I stayed at a beautiful. Not my wife.
Billy
Not my wife.
Dan LeBatard
That'd be amazing if his wife and you.
Stugatz
What's going on here?
Greg Cody
What's a big deal? We're sleeping in separate beds. Come on. But he's right. When I tried to leave first of All. I'm moving an inch an hour through a throng of 250 million people.
Billy
You're talking about something else.
Greg Cody
I couldn't take a left to get back to my hotel. They forced me to take a right.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, wow.
Greg Cody
And go down to Fifth Street.
Chris Cote
I'm with you.
Billy
We've all been there. Huh?
Greg Cody
And then make a U turn. And it took me an hour.
Mike Ryan
This cannot be the way we talk about this.
Billy
What road did you make it right at? Where were you able to make the right eventually?
Stugatz
Keep going.
Greg Cody
No, this is the.
Chris Cote
Wouldn't you rather just be able to do what you want? You couldn't do what you want.
Mike Ryan
You're a parade correspondent.
Greg Cody
If I'm an event manager. I got a lot to say about this celebration yesterday.
Stugatz
This franchise was garbage for 25.
Mike Ryan
Are you guys joking? This is what you guys are going to do. I didn't like the traffic. There were too many people.
Chris Cote
I just want to do what I want.
Stugatz
I thought it was going to be hot.
Mike Ryan
It can't be this.
Dan LeBatard
But you didn't go.
Mike Ryan
I did not go. But I'm not sitting here doing what you guys.
Chris Cote
You couldn't do what you want.
Stugatz
Look, had I known the tricky triangle at Pocono was going to be delayed two hours, I would have been there.
Greg Cody
I should have been on a drone flying over the whole thing, observing funny visual. I should have done.
Mike Ryan
He. He asked us why we didn't have a parade float. He thought we should have had a float in the parade. I didn't know whether we were asked or not to have a parade float. Were we?
Billy
No, we weren't asked. I asked.
Stugatz
Presumptuous.
Mike Ryan
Well, no. I just. Greg is asking and I don't know what the parade was. I haven't seen anything except that it looked lovely being on the beach. And obviously there aren't very many cities that can do that that can win hockey's championship. There's. The state of Florida has cornered it over the last seven years. It's crazy that we are the hockey capital of the world. It's nuts.
Greg Cody
And it is an idyllic setting. It really is.
Mike Ryan
But not for hockey. Like.
Greg Cody
No, but. But the. For a championship parade to be a slap shot from the ocean. You have boats out there. You have jet skis. You have people watching the parade from balconies of hotels.
Mike Ryan
I have a hungover Meadowlark media. Everybody out there who is a Panthers fan and they are many. They are just sopped in lighter fluid. And Cuervo.
Billy
Everyone's. Everyone's Just like, can't wait to do nothing.
Greg Cody
This.
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Billy
What are you doing this week? I'm doing nothing.
Mike Ryan
They're all on the couch. They're all at Meadowlark. Media is laying at the. Laying on the couch, as tired as Tkachuk. How is it possible that this thing flogged you guys? Billy Abstained.
Dan LeBatard
What do you mean?
Mike Ryan
You just never got involved.
Dan LeBatard
That's not true. I watched a game or two here. I saw parade coverage. I was talking to people that were at the parade. What more do you want from me?
Mike Ryan
I mean, slightly more than that.
Chris Cote
Why?
Dan LeBatard
You have a room full of people that were big time Panthers fans, all of which decided not to attend a championship parade because they're so used to winning as Panthers fans.
Mike Ryan
I have a child.
Dan LeBatard
But then they also want to complain when people are like, panther fans aren't real. Fans are like, no, we're the best fans. Look at that crowd. I'm not in it. But look at that crowd, how big it is.
Mike Ryan
I mean, look, 200,000 for us. 200,000 for us. Seven times, eight times what that arena holds. That's a good amount of fans. Like, that's. We don't do that for a whole lot of stuff. And Fort Lauderdale doesn't do it for anything.
Stugatz
It felt like this championship resonated more with the market down in Miami Dade County. More people were watching the games. More people were aware. It certainly saw. Seemed like on television anyways, that it was a bigger crowd this year. So incremental gains for what is a weird hockey market. And I don't think that we should be embarrassed by it. I really don't. I think we should lean in, look at the images behind.
Mike Ryan
Embarrassed. Why would anybody be embarrassed by that?
Stugatz
The images behind you are jaw dropping.
Billy
It's beautiful because people are still trying to come at us. It's like somehow saying like, yesterday wasn't impressive.
Stugatz
It's 110 degrees out there and you got half the crowd in hockey sweaters.
Billy
Because there's a couple shots where players are walking by and there's like two people deep on the rail, like a couple isolated shots. But it's just like, it was insane yesterday.
Stugatz
That's how parades work. There's composite areas, right?
Dan LeBatard
Why do you guys care about the number?
Mike Ryan
We want respect.
Dan LeBatard
How many people who cares why you have the Cup? What do you respect for?
Stugatz
Well, I think that that was where I was going, Billy, and I don't care. This is a team that's made three consecutive Stanley cup finals. And it is what it is like the fan base is growing, and if people don't like it, they should try winning.
Chris Cote
I just want to do what I want.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, yeah, you mentioned that. And I do want to mention the Heat. I don't know. Ellie De La Cruz is in pretty good shape. Just had a Heat problem over the weekend while playing. Happened to a Seattle relief.
Billy
Oh, we were getting to Durant as well.
Dan LeBatard
No, we're not talking about that today.
Mike Ryan
Oh, no.
Dan LeBatard
We'll get the talking points from my PAT across the street.
Stugatz
I don't want to say MF or I'm this close to.
Mike Ryan
All right, let's go there.
Stugatz
This mother.
Mike Ryan
Take down the Jovich. Take down Jovich.
Stugatz
He's a Hall of Famer. We don't want to include Jovich. I don't even know his first name.
Dan LeBatard
What's the list, Mike? I'll ask you because you probably know better than anyone here. If we were to make a list of all the players the Heat have not given up over the years to get Kevin Durant in their four or five attempts, what would that team look like?
Stugatz
Are you Billy? According to reports, it was like pulling teeth to get 28 year old Heywood Highsmith included in this deal. Heywood Highsmith? He's older than Bam on a bio. Did you know that? Heywood Highsmith. He's undrafted. What? Is he still a project? Heywood Highsmith. What are we doing? This is embarrassing.
Mike Ryan
So the answer to your question. I don't know how Zaz feels about this.
Chris Cote
I'll tell you how it does.
Mike Ryan
Look, it's a maniacal mic Monday, as brought to you.
Stugatz
I don't want the graphics. Stop him. Take it out. I don't know how many times you can keep changing the first word.
Dan LeBatard
Not how it works. I've tried. You're stuck with it, like it or not.
Stugatz
Dead in his eye. I said, hey, I don't like this. Take this. Who is telling you to keep doing this? I think I'm your boss.
Mike Ryan
Please stop doing this, Zaslow. The argument, were it to be constructed, is just that you want to have pieces for Giannis that you're all in on. Giannis.
Chris Cote
That's on my argument.
Stugatz
You don't get to invoke a bigger star when you fail to get this star.
Chris Cote
I mean, I don't know if it's about holding out for Giannis. What I do know is you're on another planet if you think I'm about to sit here and get upset that the Heat didn't give up everything for Kevin Durant. Get out of here.
Stugatz
Oh, you Heat fans. Stop making Jovic everything. No, Stop doing that.
Chris Cote
Look, if you want.
Stugatz
It was there to be had. If you wanted him, you could have had him.
Dan LeBatard
How could they be a 10 seed without those pieces?
Greg Cody
Right?
Chris Cote
First of all, if I've learned anything over these last few weeks, all these reports out there, no one knows anything. Everyone's report is one thing. Barry knows another thing.
Stugatz
And this Barry knows.
Chris Cote
No one knows anything.
Stugatz
Are you attacking? Are you attacking Barry Jackson?
Chris Cote
What I'm attacking is nobody knows anything. You have direct, conflicting reports. Okay, but overall, this idea that I'm somehow going to sit here, I didn't want to root for Kevin Durant. If he would have gotten Kevin Durant, great, it had been fine to be a better team, they'd still be far away from being a champion, like, far away from being a championship team. But I'm going to sit here and act upset that Kevin Durant is not coming to my team. Get the hell out of here.
Stugatz
Oh, my God. They got you. Hook, line and sinker brother has nothing.
Chris Cote
To do about the Miami Heat.
Stugatz
And by the way, the initial report was they didn't want to include Highsmith. That was Shams. And then they went into damage control and started feeding Barry.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no.
Stugatz
Highsmith was in it. Highsmith was in it. Was Jovic the person like it? Like, that's that much better.
Chris Cote
There's no reasonable person believes they wouldn't put Haywood Highsmith in a deal for Kevin Durant. I'm sorry, I. Use your head.
Stugatz
Oh, I'm sorry.
Mike Ryan
Oh.
Stugatz
Well, let me tell you, every time that the Heat come out against Shams this year, Shams ends up winning that. So if Shams says the Haywood Highsmith.
Chris Cote
Thing every time, one time, Jimmy Butler.
Stugatz
Every time, he's the most reputable news guy there. And then the local beat reporter gives you the Heat spin portion of it. Look, they have failed at least three times, four times on trying to get Kevin Durant via trade. So this is what Pat Riley does, right? He's always been reputed as a guy that. I will stockpile the draft picks and I will get the guy. He doesn't get the guy.
Chris Cote
Let me ask you something. If the Heat would. Let's say. Let's say they wouldn't include Jovic, okay? And that's why the deal didn't happen, which is nonsense, because what they got from Houston is better anyway. But let's say that they did include Jovic and the Heat acquire Kevin Durant. Where does that put the Heat. Where's that one? Where's the bottom?
Billy
More interesting.
Stugatz
Definitely more interesting. I think they're better. You don't think they're better?
Chris Cote
Of course they're better. But what does that mean? They're like the sixth best team in the East. Who cares? Where's that put them?
Dan LeBatard
What is this argument?
Stugatz
I don't know. Better.
Greg Cody
Better.
Stugatz
It makes them better, which you admit. So I don't. We. We'd like the team to get better.
Chris Cote
Great. Great. They'd be one seed better. Oh, my God.
Stugatz
So worth it.
Chris Cote
Great. It's worth it.
Dan LeBatard
So keep all of the assets. So they're one seed, seven instead of eighth.
Chris Cote
Great.
Stugatz
Right. I don't know. We're going to keep holding on to hot. Okay.
Chris Cote
But maybe something else comes up that's more worth it. Who the hell needs to be seventh in the East?
Stugatz
How many are going to come and go. How many are come and go before you stop baking that into your plan for the.
Chris Cote
They made the. You know. All right.
Mike Ryan
And incidentally, that play in ended up. I can't believe I'm saying this. Happy to announce that Zaslo had a contract clause in our CEOs leaving that got past people. And now because the Panthers won the championship, he's got bonus contract time with our show.
Chris Cote
It's kind of like Anthony Carter, but the reverse, you know?
Mike Ryan
Yeah. So now we're stuck with him for a while and he's more heat homer than the rest of our heat homers. I want to stop all of you, okay? I. Please stop doing this to an all time great just because he played during LeBron's time. Yes, Kevin Durant is 37 years old, but he's coming off three straight seasons because that jumper is as pure a thing as there's ever been. And he'll be able to make it till he's 50. He's coming off of three straight seasons, over 50% from the field, over 40% from three. Nobody's done that like, and I understand you could criticize it all you want. Legitimate star, legitimate economy. And just because he's the second or third best player of this era doesn't mean that any team wouldn't be happy to have him. And incidentally, the team that had him last night might have won the championship because Indiana just needed a veteran. They just needed somebody to give them something at the end of that basketball game to change the balance of power in that league. Because OKC is now architecturally in a better position than everyone else. But this is four straight failures on Kevin Durant who wanted to be here. There, there any number of times Kevin Durant wanted to be here. The time that the Heat was closest. I've told the story before. It's when he went to Golden State because they said we'll make the game easier for you here. You'll play. They're asking you to do too much at OKC with Westbrook and with hard and they're asking you to do too many things and we can open up the floor for you. And he took that and went to Golden State. That's the closest they ever came. They never thought, they never thought they were going to have the picks to get into this because the Kevin Durant conversation goes back with the Heat of a couple of months and picks is what he ended up going for. And Houston didn't even have to give up. Like that's a better offer than what the Heat had. But Houston didn't have to give up its prime stuff in order to get him. No, not. It's not its top future.
Stugatz
The closest I think they came. You have your reporting. Kevin Durant thought he was coming here. When the Nets dealt him to Phoenix, Ishba made an owner to owner phone call and out outdid Miami's deal. He just strolled into the league and took Pat Riley's lunch money and he got the player. Now retrospect, bad deal because they made a series of other bad deals around the team and now here they are trading Kevin Durant and the hardest thing to do is get the cooperation from the superstar. Have the superstar ask out and ask for Miami and why. I think it's foolish to bake into your plans like who we're going to get Giannis because he's playing ball, he wants out and he's listed Miami the last couple of times. The players have wanted out and they've listed Miami. Kevin Durant has listed Miami three times and Pat Riley has failed. Stop making this your business model. So it is not sustainable.
Mike Ryan
If I were to ask you and I would have liked to have Kevin Durant in a Heat uniform as well. He would have been their best scorer. I would have loved to see the punctuation of his career an all time great by any measure. Again, please do not disrespect what this person still is as a basketball player.
Dan LeBatard
I think we're disrespecting Pat Riley, not Kevin Durant.
Chris Cote
I'm talking about.
Dan LeBatard
That's what you're talking about.
Chris Cote
That's what I'm talking about.
Dan LeBatard
What do you mean?
Stugatz
Riley can't get the stars anymore.
Chris Cote
What I'm talking about.
Stugatz
What are you talking about?
Dan LeBatard
What are you talking about? Yeah, he can't get the stars.
Chris Cote
I'm talking about this is going to.
Dan LeBatard
End very sad for Pat Riley, right?
Greg Cody
Not if he gets Giannis, no.
Dan LeBatard
Well, he's not. So like it seems very apparent this is just going to end like however it ends for him as just like a play in team for all of eternity.
Mike Ryan
I would ask you this because the last time it felt like this around here is when the natives got restless because the last 15 years have been a real pleasure. I can't even imagine what it is to be a Patriots fan right now where you're like, look at what we had compared to what we now have. The standard is such that it looks sad now. It looked plenty sad when it was Deon Waiters and Hassan Whiteside. And since then, in the last eight years, there have been a lot of swings and misses outside of Jimmy Butler. In fact, they used to just be a team that didn't trust young players or develop young players. Like that's something that came about in Pat Riley's 70s. He never, it was always Dan Marley out there in his late 30s because they just didn't trust these players that they now refuse to give away. Right? Because Khalil Ware, I think he fans would tell you I'd hesitate there if all I'm getting is a year of Durant or I'm getting two years of Durant just because you can tell that at 20 years old he has a chance to develop into something that is obviously going to grow and is physically overwhelming. But he has failed to get the acquisitions outside of Jimmy Butler that Jimmy Butler needed to take the next step here. That's not, that's not up for argument.
Stugatz
Forget getting the guys that are better than Jimmy. He's failed to get the guys that you can round out a roster with that make you better than the ten seed. They're talking about Demar DeRozan. Now. Demar DeRozan was in play for Miami and he listed Miami last year. You know what he did last year? Chose Sacramento. That was the more DeRozan. You have guys like Siakam and OG Anunoby making big time contributions to their team in deeper runs. These are guys that could have helped Miami. It's not just the big guys that Miami is failing at. They're failing at everything.
Mike Ryan
Let me ask you this question though, because I really do want to ask it because of course they lose today. There's no questioning that they are source of mockery. Ha. The Heat missed again on Durant. But I'm asking you legitimate, like in terms of what you go into your off season with and you're going to be in play for all five of the guys that may or may not be available. You've already heard from their people. All of that stuff is in play with five guys. If I say that the priority from the beginning of the off season is Giannis and protecting all of the pieces that get you Yanis, I understand why you were doubt that they could do that, but if that succeeds, then all of this becomes moot, does it not?
Greg Cody
Correct.
Mike Ryan
Does it not immediately become moot if a month from now. I'm not saying you're not right today. You're obviously right today. They swung and missed again on Durant. Better.
Stugatz
Better get a start on that. A month from now, the entire free agency class is rounded out. You're going to get Giannis. You're going to give up most of your roster and all the picks to get Giannis. What are you going to surround him with? You've run out of time.
Dan LeBatard
That's the thing. You need things around. He's been bouncing the first round a couple of years already.
Stugatz
That's why the timing was crucial to get Durant done now. Like acquiring Durant doesn't completely take you out of the Giannis thing either, Mike.
Mike Ryan
It's it Wiggins and Rozier. You send those contracts away like that is, you're. You're dumping something on the Suns. If you're sending Rosier and Wiggins with your picks and you don't have enough.
Stugatz
They were, they, they were all cool with that, apparently. And it came between Ware and Jovic and not wanting to include them. And that's the, that's the pro Heat spin after the fact. When the initial reports are we didn't even want to invoke Haywood Highsmith in the deal.
Chris Cote
Do you think the Heat believe that they failed in not getting Kevin Durant? And the reason that I ask it like that is because based on this conversation we're having, like, the Heat could have had him if they wanted. Include this guy, which I don't know to be true or not, but include this guy and you could have Kevin Durant and the Heat decided, what if that's. We don't want.
Mike Ryan
What if that's the guy you already know brings you Giannis. What if you know that in that you know that it's not going to just be Duncan Robinson, like, where's the piece it's not even Hawkes anymore. It's not Jovic, either.
Chris Cote
That's why I'm asking. Do they believe they fail?
Mike Ryan
If the Heat have an asset, it's where, right?
Greg Cody
That's who they wanted in for Durant and the Heat. Low ball, the whole offer. The Heat did not give a credible offer to get Durant.
Mike Ryan
The microphone goes in front of your face.
Greg Cody
It was in front of my face.
Stugatz
I just don't understand it.
Greg Cody
Away from me.
Stugatz
Well, I guess. I guess I do understand why he. Fans keep thinking that it's their birthright to be in involved in these conversations with the superstar. And naturally, if the superstar says he's interested in Miami, like it's been alluded to, like he's been cryptic, like other people have reported that Miami is certainly in this mix. But here's what. What's happening with Pat Riley right now is he has a very proud reputation of being the guy that closes the deals. He is the deal maker. He is this great architect of championship teams, and lately, he has failed repeatedly. And if you want to pivot and say he chose to fail this time, cool. He's been a finalist for a certain hall of Famer at least four times that we know of, and he's never been able to secure this guy, even as the asking price continues to go down, even as Kevin Durant continues to still be a real good pro. As someone that you even admitted Zaz would make this team better, and I think you can absolutely say that it's a failure. If they were a finalist and they didn't get the prize, they failed.
Mike Ryan
So you're saying, though, just to be clear, I want to make it clear, if it can be this clear, if I give Ware to the Suns and get Durant, I'm out on Giannis. You're good with that.
Stugatz
How many times are we going to say this? I'm just asking, how many deals did we pass up that could have made us better? Because we were going to get Lillard or we're going to get Durant. No, get better. And you still have some powder to try to get Giannis. You still have draft picks. There was only one draft pick in that deal. It's just the Giannis thing needs to happen. It's not going to be one of those things that happens a month from now.
Dan LeBatard
Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Dan.
Mike Ryan
That's a good contribution. Billy, hold on just a second.
Dan LeBatard
Applause.
Stugatz
Oh, minor penalty. Two minutes for adding nothing.
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Adding nothing. Things that Pat Riley did Yesterday. Where's he?
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Greg Cody
This guy comes in as the next Wayne Gretzky. His nicknames include the chosen1 and McJesus. Okay, he's a great player. He scores a lot of goals. He scores a ton of assists. But it hasn't translated to making Edmonton a powerhouse in the league.
Stugatz
They're in the final Stugats.
Billy
What's your nickname for him?
Greg Cody
MC Overrated.
Dan LeBatard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Mike Ryan
I'd like to play some sound that I want to get off the ground here is South Florida echoes and quakes from being a two time champion. Let's see if Barky can get off a chant on Boroski. Let's see if we could. We can love Boski in a way that echoes from sea to shining sea.
Greg Cody
Bobby.
Mike Ryan
Bobby.
Chris Cote
Thank you. It's pretty close to Freddie Mercury at Live 8.
Mike Ryan
No.
Greg Cody
Oh, sad.
Mike Ryan
Similar.
Stugatz
Now, keep in mind this is the second year in a row that he's tried this. Yes.
Billy
He's like, let's do this again. I did it last year.
Mike Ryan
Roy, can you do me a favor, please and just get Charles Barkley trying to say Bobrovsky, because Charles Barkley showed up in Sunrise for Game six. It is now. It's an annual tradition. Charles Barkley flies down to see this. See the South Florida team hockey crowned.
Billy
Yeah, but he's picked Edmonton both years. Like, if you listen to him interviewed, it seems like he's been rooting for Edmonton both years.
Mike Ryan
Regardless, he doesn't know how to say the name of the fifth best Panther. I can't believe I'm saying that. Sergey Babbakov.
Chris Cote
Good player.
Greg Cody
It's not that tough to say. Bobby.
Mike Ryan
Why didn't that chant just echo among 200,000 people? Why is. Why is the world making fun of our parade?
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
Thank you.
Chris Cote
I'll bet he's hilarious in Finland.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Billy
I saw something where they were saying Panther like all the Panther players. Who's the funniest guy? Barkov, apparently. He's great with the one liners.
Chris Cote
I'll bet he is so funny in his home country.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
You think Barkov does like a comedy tour in Finland?
Chris Cote
I'll bet. Yeah. I'll bet he could just show up and do a set.
Mike Ryan
I mean, he's hugely popular there. I. But this. This as. As the hood ornament on South Florida rules all of hockey. Listen to us. Listen to us roar. You're feeling good about yourself, Roy. You're feeling good. You were playing that music and then what happened?
Stugatz
I had the button and.
Mike Ryan
You are hungover, Roy. And every. I know, but you're hungover.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
You're hungover from hockey.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
You're. You're spent from what it's been to be a Panther fan for the last two years.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Mike Ryan
Let's get some footage here, please, because the Panthers have made it over to 11. Mike Ryan was there. Polluted. I can't. That's going to be a different celebration than the Elbow Room. The Elbow Room is all concrete, all asphalt, all humid. But Somehow humid, though, like the concrete sweats, because the elbow room just has just Frankie Avalon, spring break decay. This is your wheelhouse right here. You know what I'm talking about though. This area of the country made spring break famous, I think for America, right across from the elbow room. But when it comes to Miami, when the guys come over and party over here at 11, they're a lot looser. Didn't. Didn't several contracts, extensions get signed the last time that they partied at 11, where they're just sort of. They're doing contract negotiations in public by saying, yeah, I want to come back. Of course I want to come back. Look at this great party here.
Stugatz
It seems as though we got an eight year extension done right there next to the poll.
Chris Cote
I reported the Bennett one.
Stugatz
Yeah, that's true.
Mike Ryan
Do we have. Do we have some video of Marshawn being hungover? Do we have like we Panthers are beaten up, right? They've been. They have not stopped partying. Correct. Craig, what was yesterday like for you as somebody who spent hours getting sunburned over there?
Greg Cody
The whole team spent the entire week drunk. Okay. And. And that's why the F bombs were flying on the stage from the stage. It was not to get sour, but it was a little bit of an off key note, I thought because you have a million kids.
Billy
Oh, stop.
Greg Cody
Oh, no.
Stugatz
He did this last year.
Greg Cody
No, I'm being serious. Is, you know, four or five.
Billy
I'm not freaking leaving. Should have said that.
Greg Cody
Four or five players were shouting at bombs and I, I just didn't think, you know, I thought it was the alcohol talking.
Stugatz
I appreciate this perspective. Yeah, it's nicer. There are people bringing families there, so I'm glad that you're speaking for me.
Dan LeBatard
And I was at a hotel with his daughter in law and she had to hear it.
Billy
Me and my 7 year old were high fiving when those curse words were happening.
Greg Cody
Fine.
Billy
Okay, so we have sound here.
Greg Cody
Your own parents.
Billy
So they went to 11 on Thursday night and Friday morning Sam Reinhardt and Marshawn had paid appearances and it was just. They did this last year where they're cashing in on the championship.
Mike Ryan
Oh, and they're just broken. They haven't slept in three days.
Billy
It is hilarious. So first we're gonna play a quick clip of Reinhardt.
Mike Ryan
We have one box combo coming up. One lemonade. You want to make it an Arnie pony.
Billy
He's just hung the bleep.
Mike Ryan
No, but I mean you can't. You cannot be near fryers in South Florida. Grilling up fries and chicken tenders. That. That can't be what you're doing with your afternoon if you've been drinking for three days. One box combo coming up. One lemonade. You want to make it an Arnie Pony.
Billy
And then. So then Marshy.
Chris Cote
Is that Rhino?
Billy
Yeah, that's Reinhardt.
Stugatz
You want to make an Arnie Palmy? Is that what he's saying at the end? You want to make an Arnie Palmy?
Mike Ryan
He's broken. He's physically broken. One box combo coming up. One lemonade. You want to make it an Arnie Palmy?
Chris Cote
I'm sorry, no, that's. It's not Samurai Hart.
Stugatz
You want to make that an Arnie Palmy? Me.
Billy
And then we have Marshon, who was at Dairy Queen, and my son was.
Chris Cote
At the Dairy Queen. Marshan.
Mike Ryan
The Blizzards. He was just giving away Blizzards.
Billy
He was interviewed, and he sounds rough.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, we were just kind of sitting at dinner and kind of reminiscent on how we all got to this point. All those moments, all those teams making bad decisions to get rid of guys and our team making incredible decisions to bring them all in. You know, it all played a part in us winning the cup, so it just kind of came together last night. We were joking about it.
Greg Cody
Oh, my God.
Stugatz
The media has seized on their celebration a little bit. It's going over a little class list, be it the bleep McDavid Chance or Brad Marchand running up the score seemingly on ig. He put a selfie photo out from that Dairy Queen with an oiler sticker that made the logo say losers instead. People are kind of annoyed by how much they're rubbing it in.
Mike Ryan
No. But. No. Let's examine for just a moment here what has just been done, because the culture of this sport is super interesting where it's a very conservative sport in terms of behavior. Handshake line. Respect the handshake. There's honor and nobility in defeating your opponent and then having grace afterward as hockey prides itself on sort of we'll fight you over sportsmanship. And the Panthers are a new kind of team, and you don't like them, and they don't care. And twice now, they've known that you don't like them. They don't care that you don't like them. They continue to play that way. And Carolina's coach, as he goes down in flames, is yelling, stop retaliating, guys. And Marchand is coming to the bench, pointing at his. His head, because this team believes that they are tougher and better than Everyone, they just took out McDavid, and they're not showing him respect the way the Tkachuk family normally would like. If you. If you represent the Tkachuks, even if you're, you know, around the net, you use, you know, you're a little dirty around the net, this is not grace for a family called the Tkachuks. Like, this is not. This is not handling this trophy with care. This is partying like young people.
Billy
I mean, I think that they heard your message at the parade. Sam Bennett addressed the way they play, the way they've celebrated. Sam Bennett addressed this.
Stugatz
You know, a lot of people have. They don't like the way we play. They.
Mike Ryan
They don't like. They call us dirty, they call us.
Stugatz
Nasty, they call us bullies.
Mike Ryan
So, no, I would. I would like to take this time to. To apologize to absolutely no one. We're the double champs. We do what the. We want. Yeah. That's not. Let's go. Yes.
Billy
I love the dismount there.
Chris Cote
That's what I'm talking about.
Mike Ryan
Let's go.
Stugatz
Greg shaking his head.
Mike Ryan
Let's go.
Stugatz
Asking for freaking instead.
Chris Cote
Talking about, look, it.
Greg Cody
It was overboard with the language. I don't care. I'm not being approved saying that. I've heard plenty of other people say that. Okay. People who were there with kids. But I will say this, and I like this about the Panthers. They are a different animal for this sport. And it's not only celebrating the way they're doing right now, but it's being very open about saying, three, Pete, we're going to win again. This is. Kachuk himself used the word dynasty. They're open about that. They embrace that. The idea that they want to be the first.
Mike Ryan
But please understand, though, that in. In South Florida, there have only been a couple of things like this ever.
Greg Cody
3.
Mike Ryan
I wouldn't say 3, because those dolphin teams that you're talking about weren't hated by the country or weren't rooted against by the country or weren't unlikable teams. And the 72 dolphins threw seven times in the Super Bowl.
Greg Cody
Yeah, I thought you meant dynasty. I didn't think you meant likability.
Mike Ryan
No. Well, I'm talking about a team that could create a fan base that is centered around other people. Don't like us. We don't care.
Greg Cody
Yeah. There have been two previous.
Mike Ryan
Okay. There's only been two. It's been a segment of University of Miami football, and it's kind of been the LeBron, Wade, Bosh Heat, but they pretended not to Care and kind of did care. The fan base didn't care around them, but those players actually cared. These players are doing something that's different for hockey. They're bringing the beach to hockey. They're proud of the region they're representing, and they're doing so by the Elbow Room purposefully. Like, they're. They're. They're aware of what it is that they're celebrating and they're in your face. And we have not had that but twice down here. Ever.
Stugatz
Two things, I think that is totally in line for a Tkachuk. He's the only Tkachuk to lift the cup. And he's shown you, like, that's. That's how we're going to get down here.
Billy
His dad was at elbow room.
Chris Cote
Yeah.
Billy
With him.
Stugatz
And also, I'm done going at Greg for the makeoverrated stuff. It's not like, look, the Florida Panthers gave way more bulletin board material for Connor McDavid last year after the celebration. Certainly this year. Be it chanting Connor who? Bleep McDavid. He's not necessarily living in their heads because they erased him. But it's almost as if they talk about Connor McDavid even more than the Oilers. Going up against the best player of his generation and to shut him down the way that they did. They're not afraid of motivating him some more. They'll take it right to them. They're having a blast. And they know the fact that they went up against McDavid only cements their legacy more.
Greg Cody
Correct. That's absolutely correct. McDavid is mcover rated against no one except the Panthers. Okay. They are the ones who are causing him not to dominate, to barely be there in the final. They erased him in the final. That's why they had that parade yesterday.
Dan LeBatard
McCryptonite.
Mike Ryan
A lot of people are looking at Greg Cody and saying that he looks like Papi today, that you are so brown from yesterday's sunburn. But before we get to Greg Cody's face, Roy, can you just play the previous sound that we just played that had the trailing. Let's go. Because it reminded me of something. Let's go. Jeremy had something like that where he was trying to be enthusiastic at a Heat game and no one rallied around him.
Jeremy
Let's go.
Billy
Bennett's just so much cooler than Jeremy.
Mike Ryan
Let's go.
Billy
Those are similar things, but just Bennett is cooler.
Stugatz
Let's go.
Mike Ryan
Wow. But Bennett's helped by just giant ambient crowd noise, and Jeremy's doing it acapella.
Jeremy
Let's go.
Stugatz
I mean, he's not exactly clear on a high bar here. Let's go, Benny. You cleared the tache bar of coolness.
Jeremy
Let's go.
Mike Ryan
Now. Combine them, though. This is the sound of Panthers hockey. I want to combine the. Let's go with the. With Barky trying to get a Bobby chant off because.
Chris Cote
Definitely hilarious in Finland.
Mike Ryan
Bobby.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Stugatz
I think it went better this year. It definitely got more people.
Billy
He led with it. He closed with it last year. This year he's like, I'm gonna open with it. You guys loved it.
Chris Cote
Goes right into material.
Stugatz
Yeah. Thank you. It was a callback. He's like. And part of the crowd was like, no, he's trying to trick us again. You hear like, some of the crowd go, Bobby, Bobby.
Mike Ryan
And.
Stugatz
But most of them were like, you're not fooling us this year, Bobby.
Mike Ryan
I feel so close to him. Like he's trying so hard to connect, to climb over the.
Greg Cody
Thank you.
Stugatz
Howdy, folks, It's Mike Ryan. Now, if you've been listening to the show a lot lately, you've heard so much playoff talk. Playoff hoop. Down here in South Florida, we're especially enamored with playoff hockey. It's not just limited to the playoffs. Motorsports, tennis, golf. It's truly one of the best times in the sporting calendar. And with the weather outside warming up, it's just perfect to hop in a pool, maybe grill up some food, but most certainly crack open some Miller Lights. I just described a pretty perfect day, didn't I? And it culminates with Miller Time. There is something about a perfect grilling day. The sun's out, friends show up, and that first sip of Miller Lite just hits different. I've been stocking up the cooler with it for years. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookouts, laughs, and ice cold moments that never miss. And if you've listened to the show for its 20 year existence, you know this to be true. Miller Lite great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Light pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: Local Hour: BoooOOOoooOOObby
Release Date: June 23, 2025
In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan LeBatard and Stugotz delve into a mix of personal anecdotes, sports commentary, and cultural discussions, all while engaging with their guests and addressing recent events in the South Florida sports scene. The episode is peppered with humorous exchanges, insightful critiques, and sponsored segments that add depth and variety to the conversation.
Dan LeBatard opens the show with a personal story about his struggles to maintain his pet's well-being, humorously highlighting his reliance on Chewy's services.
This segment transitions smoothly into an advertisement, emphasizing Chewy's fast delivery and comprehensive pet care solutions.
Stugotz and Mike Ryan present a spirited advertisement for Cuervo Tequila, celebrating its rich history and commitment to quality.
The ad underscores Cuervo's longstanding tradition and modern conveniences, such as autoship and customer support.
Mike Ryan introduces Greg Cody, who shares a humorous and relatable story about his severe sunburn from attending a parade.
The discussion highlights the importance of sun protection, especially for those living in South Florida, and pokes fun at Greg's lack of sunscreen usage despite his experience.
The hosts and Greg Cody discuss the recent Panthers championship parade, exploring varying perspectives on attendance and the event's atmosphere.
The conversation touches on logistical challenges, personal choices regarding event attendance, and the overall sentiment towards the parade, blending humor with genuine insights.
A deep dive into the Miami Heat's strategic moves (or lack thereof) to acquire Kevin Durant, with Stugotz and Chris Cote critiquing Pat Riley's trade decisions.
The discussion scrutinizes the Heat's repeated failures to secure Durant, the impact on team performance, and broader implications for the franchise's future.
Throughout the episode, sponsored segments are interwoven seamlessly into the conversation:
These segments provide valuable information and offers to listeners while maintaining the show's engaging tone.
The hosts celebrate the Panthers' championship win, discussing the unique style of their celebration and Charles Barkley's involvement.
Greg Cody humorously critiques the celebration's execution, while Stugotz and Billy reflect on the team's different approach compared to traditional hockey celebrations. The segment highlights the team's modern and bold celebration tactics, contrasting them with the sport's conventional norms.
The conversation shifts to the cultural impact of the Panthers' behavior post-victory, examining how their actions diverge from traditional hockey sportsmanship.
The hosts analyze the team's ambition to establish a dynasty, their unapologetic celebration style, and the reception from both fans and the broader hockey community.
Towards the episode's end, hosts and guests share and react to humorous sound clips from the Panthers' celebrations, adding levity and entertainment to the discussion.
The playful interactions underscore the camaraderie among the hosts and their ability to find humor in post-game antics.
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully blends personal stories, critical sports analysis, and engaging advertisements, all while maintaining a lively and humorous atmosphere. From discussing the Miami Heat's strategic missteps to celebrating the Panthers' unconventional victory, the hosts provide listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining overview of the current South Florida sports landscape.
Notable Quotes:
Dan LeBatard [00:00]:
"I'm just trying to live up to be the version of me my dogs think I am."
Stugotz [01:18]:
"Now's a good time to remember where tequila's story truly began."
Greg Cody [02:19]:
"I was tomato red yesterday and didn't even realize it until I got home."
Mike Ryan [33:00]:
"Bobby."
Chris Cote [15:11]:
"Who the hell needs to be seventh in the East?"
Note: This summary encapsulates the key discussions, humorous exchanges, and critical analyses presented in the episode, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't listened to the full podcast.